I've always been a camaro fan. But I'm glad to see ford putting out a mustang that is FINALLY worth buying. (outside the 03/04 cobra which was pretty good). I think i'd still have the camaro based on looks but Ford has FINALLY closed the performance gap between the Camaro and the Mustang. It's about 'effin time!
@mossow71 It's already been proven that the new Hennessey HPE650 Camaro is clearly superior to the Super Snake. The Camaro had a better track time, better drag time, and better suspension than the Super Snake.
i love watching people talk crap about brands and import vs domestic. a TRUE automobile enthusiast loves cars and the technological improvements they bring, no matter what brand or where they come from.
I felt like the video was just getting started...then it ended. It seemed like it was going to be a good, in-depth review, but was unnecessarily short.
@Disawat get the camaro rs or ls watever the v6 version the car looks good and some people may think u have the v8 version well its ur choice im just recommending the camaro
@dddjjf how about automoble magazine it has the mustang in the 12's along with muscle car magazine. What is with you dude? and why you would bring that up i don't know because motor trend was one of the main magazines claiming the 2010 camaro was a 12 second but you say they are bias towards the mustang. Look at all the real life drag race videos on here of the mustang beating the camaro are they just bias too? how about the fact that the mustang weighs less and the engine is underated? explain?
FORD = FIX OR REPAIR DAILY 5.0???? shit that ss is 6.2 still faster and chevy and gm makes good cars i seen a camero with 449,600 miles on the engine and it started up good no check engine lights perfect car no rust garaged keep
@MaFiaPaiNTBaLLx kid, there is nothing cool about driving a camaro when you're 16.. pretty uncool if you ask me. you'll know what i mean when you get older. and yes, i know the new v6s are producing 300+Hp.. thats just great.. but you're still just driving a v6. someone that drives a muscle car with a v6 is just as lame as the person driving a honda accord. these cars were made for V8s. i dont care if your V6 has more HP than my V8. im still superior.
@gmrtg1414 Here? Where? Where is your Proof? Oh wait, you have none, and i just gave you two quotes to back up my statement. The biggest v8 gas engine in a 1/2 ton truck today as far as i know is a 6.2l, and they haven't made them much bigger for a long time. 6.2l = Big Block. Anything above 5.9 in the automotive world is considered a big block. Wheres your facts? Id sure love you to send me a link to a page describing how a 6.2L in a camaro ISN'T a big block.
@f133n0r86 Since when does the camaro come out on top? 5.0 handles better. Is faster in the 1/4 mile. Fastest stock 5.0 12.1/fastest stock camaro 12.5 BOTH ON DR"S/SLICKS 5.0 has still went 12.2and 12.3 with out DR's. fastest bolt on 5.0 10.8/fastest bolt on camaro 11.7 fastest cammed 5.0..none have been done haha..fastest C/H/I Camaro 11.1..didn't even beat the bolt on 5.0. So again where is it faster?
@Texarmageddon i could be wrong on the DOHC thing...am too lazy to look it up ..but i thought they switched to DOHC after 05 models...hell if i know..what i do know if it atleast had SOHC..wich is still 1 more than an LS1...and those engines are a 90 degree block and the heads on it are HUGE..the 4.6's are actually lager in size than the larger displacement LS1...physically larger...so for everyone who says..the 5.0's and 4.6's can beat a laerger engine...need to look at how huge they are
@Texarmageddon ..no..the new camaro is actually a lil faster...they have ran as fast as 12.8 stock with street tires...u wont see a stock LS1 car into the 12's without some drag radials...and the only reason the new camaro is'nt that much faster than the older ones..and is'nt waxing the 5.0's...is well..cause GM fucked up a lil on the new ones and made them weigh almost 4,000 lbs...only muscle car heavier right now is the challenger..weight is also it's major issue
@twfish2013 no..not really..considering the camaro is running an old shcool pushrod (single cam) engine..the 5.0 has DOHC ( 4 cams!!!)...in 2010 the 4.6 DOHC had only 315 hp..ford had to push their engines to make the extra HP the GM has usually came with stock...the GTO's had a 6.0l 400hp LS2 like 5 years ago!!....and the 6.2 is not BIGGER...yeah maybe in displacement department..but pull both those engines out ..set them side by side..and be taken back by how large a DOHC V8 actually is
@Reaper87xx I could care less if they are the most popular rent, that must mean they are popular to drive and test and such I guess. It doesn't bother me because I'm not a "fanboy" of any of these cars although I was always aware of them and their power. Again, Mustang is impressive but doesn't have neough changes besides the new 5.0 engine and the Camaro has been out since 2002. A muscle car is a muscle car, arguing about popularity and power etc. is reicoulous, they are all great.
@Manbeast222 Actually not quite, that would be the Ford SUPER DUTY keeping shops in business with that pile of shit Navistar 6.0 and 6.4L Powerjoke diesel. Not sure where you're looking but I see more Camaro SS's alone than I do 2010 and 2011 Mustang GT's and Base models combined. The Camaro USED to be bold and wow but for chrissake, they're on RENTAL lots (ok, so are Stangs) but worse, are extremely POPULAR rentals. Camrys, Impalas, Fusions...and Camaros. Ouch...
Motortrend did a comparison between an M3 and an 11 GT and the difference in performance is negligible numbers wise. The M3 was still a better driver's car but the tester said the Mustang was by far the most exciting and fun. In the early days, there was a lot of speculation that the cylinder head was set up for DI, it just wasn't implemented but it certainly looked like it was set up for it. I wouldn't be surprised to see it in a few years. 450 horsepower anyone?
@88soulsurvivor That's why you see one every 5 seconds, I'm saying the Camaro is a change but people bag on it because they can't admit that it doesn't look half bad and indeed is a performance looking car. People think i'm a criminal or something because I praise what Chevy has done, go get a life. The Mustang is an American classic, but unfortunately the truth huts: it's TOO COMMON. Ford: Keeping auto repair shops in business since 1903...
@EnEsFive If you think this is the only comparison that the Camaro beats the Mustang in any factor, then you must not watch many youtube videos or read many reviews on the comparisons of the two muscle cars because as far as i'm conerned out of all my findings, the Camaro is preffered over the Mustang. BUt again, theMustang is not far behind. Yes, the Camaro is more powerful in nmumbers, but the Mustang weights over a ton less, making them prectically the same with speed. Depends on the person..
The Camaro has impressed me in every single aspect in comarison to the Mustang EXCEPT one....the interior... Sorry Chevy, you guys really dropped the ball in that area...The interior better be MUCH improved for the 2012. Wheel too big/thick, very plain, pointless controls, cheap material, horrible visibility. Meh, I know it's not a luxury German car, but heck, a little more dedication wouldn't have hurt either. If the interior was on the same level as the exterior...SEX MACHINE.
are you guys serious???? Its all about the driver in a race!! think about it can the car turn on or manuver by it self??? NO!! can it brake by it self or know when to put the pedal to the medal??? its all about the driver. Ofcourse when going against a mini van you could say the muscle cars have a better chance but even then it all on the driver
@mcdoogle6969 yeah true but the new camaro hennessy with 650hp can kick some ass on the quarter mile and so cant the new gt 500 super snake with 750 hp both great cars ford and chevy are very competitive and make very fast cars but dodge makes there cars too heavy and the challenger doesn't even compete with the mustang and the camaro
60's = Mustang 70's = Camaro 80's= Camaro (NEVER mustang, the 80s were the worst years) 90's= A little of both 2005 + = Mustang Pretty even, both are great cars. The reason I like the mustang from 2005 and up, is because that is when they made the model that looks the most similar to the original, besides the 70s or just after they came out.
@bigshow196 motertrend is way more accurate dont care about car and driver yes mustang is faster than camaro its lighter mustangs are fast better watch more vids i watched a drag race camaro vs mustang vs challenger mustang won. camaro has 426hp mustang has 412 hp camaro has14hp more than mustang doesn't mean shit weight is the key thing thats why the corvettes are fast
This VS review is bad. U can tell they showed favoritism toward the Mustang and nothing for the Camaro. They didn't look inside the Camaro's Hood like they did the Mustang, also listen to how he talks about the Mustang, and then the Camaro. Not a good review at all! Not hating just saying. Give a real review!
@sandman3131 Car & Driver dec. 1993, Introduction of 4th gen LT1 Camaro and New Body Mustang Camaro 275hp & 325tq/Mustang 5.0 215hp & 285tq. Mustang went backwards instead of forward. 0-60: Camaro 5.4/ Mustang 6.7 1/4 mile: Camaro 14.0 @102mph/ Mustang 15.1@92mph I guess Ford doesn't care about muscle car status for the Mustang anymore at this point.
They are both great cars....but I've gotta go with the Camaro. They just captivate me. The Legend Reborn! ;) (but i have nothing against the mustang at ALL!)
My modded grand prix runs a 13.2 at 104. Whats up with the stang running a 14 flat w/ the same trap speed? Either terrible driving, or it's a slug off the line
last year Chevy sold more then ford fact ford made a lighter mustang with less power then camaro fact mustang fast in the corners camaro fast in straight line fact so enough with the fued both ford and chevy make wonderful cars and cant we just appreciate the american muscle we have all come to love
@boistown all three of my fords have been more reliable then my two chevys my 76 t bird is still running off the original partsits not a coinsadince that my 07 impala and my 03 caviler have had thousands of dollards in stupid repairs with in the year of owning them
@sandman3131 I have to disagree with you. Mustang only succeed in 1982-1985 and after that it's been all Chevy and Pontiac. Checkout R&D Oct. 1986 pg. 40-45: Mustang 5.0 225hp & 300tq. Camaro 5.0 220hp & 325 tq. 0-60: Stang 6.7 Camaro 6.7 1/4 mile: Stang 15.4 Camaro 15.2
Having owned two GT's and now a V6, the Mustang V6 is great. Quick and nimble. You really notice the lower weight in the front end. A manual is a must have.
@QuickStang5o the 5.0 is 300 pounds lighter and the dyno's say the 5.0 motor is stronger...............thats a big difference. so i believe motor trend
@TheAustinFleming Oh far from it! I'm just 16. My dad told me about that Ford joke. I love the Camaro not just because my family has liked chevy and GMC, its just PURDY! Look, I don't want this to get out of hand. I'm just saying my opinion that's all.
@gmrtg1414 i wasn't talking about GM's i was talking in general. It might not be a small block to GM but to everyone else it is a big block. The biggest v8 on the market today from a american auto manufacturer is a 6.2. So its considered "big"
@MrBriggsie theres no wway a camaro weighs 4600 the challenger weighs almost 4100 pounds and has one horepower less than camaro and looses to a camaro 0-60 and quarter mile if camaro weighed 4600 the challenger would beat camaro.
@sandman3131 Like I said, don't get comfortable because in 2012 the Camaro is moving away from the Zeta Platform and into the lighter A Platform. HP is predicted to be at 435-440hp. The V6 which is already 312hp today will be 330hp.
@ALPHADOG3 Ford failed on the styling? Are you on crack or something? The Camaro looks like a bloated Hot Wheels toy, and the grille makes the car look like it's smiling. And have you seen the rear reverse lights? Looks like an afterthought on Chevy's part.
@EnEsFive I'm still convinced the Camaro performs better, although i'll give the Mustang it's dues for being a bit more agile since it is ALOT lighter, i'm just talking about stuff that would have made it more visibly appealing to the consumer.
@f133n0r86 funny thing is, i have a brand new 2012 5.0 mustang ran a 12.5@114 mph with a 2.0 60ft all stock:/ o and look again the new 5.0's are beating the SS's all day. Even the automatic 5.0 beats the SS
@cornholiofromtitica Yeah plus the Camaro was designed by a guy from Japan, who apparently didn't know what a retro car should look like. Mustangs are soon going to be 100% American made unlike the Camaro.
@MrMopar4ever dude i had an 83 cordoba 360 with a 4 sp slapshift and it kicked the shit out of a 81 355 z28 camaro and a 74 nova mopar rules though my 86 thunderbird never had any problems that thing was a monster
@kodyfootball haha yeah right camaro is not better than the 5.0 car and driver sucks the mustang 5.0 handles alot better than the camaro and is faster 0-60 and faster at a quarter mile look at motor trend then you will shut up!
@Valis2008 Your grammar is so awful, I don't even know what to make of that. And since I pretty much just ripped apart an entire SN-95 a few weekends ago, tell again what I don't know about, again? hmm....
@TheFordman30287 Even though I like the Camaro better, I agree. I'm sure the ZL1 would struggle against the GT & 5.0. Doesn't even contend with the Cobra, Boss 302, or Laguna Seca, for obvious reasons.
@6308281 No not 65% just the tranny. The Mustang itself is built uin Flat Rock Michigan, and is engineered in the U,S, The Camaro pretty much the same except it was designed by a Asian man.
@Lifan2009 no, but I believe false advertising and fraud are against the law. I suppose they found a loophole though be simply calling it that without actually claiming the car was made in the given year.
I'm a chevy fan, but if you were to give me a ford mustang I would gladly take it! Hey why fight? As long as American cars come out on top of those shit imports then I'm happy.
@dddjjf no 5.0 does a quarter mile in 12.8 sec @ 110 camaro does a quarter mile over 13 sec.mustang is much lighter magazines say mustang 5.0 faster than camaro ss and challenger srt 8.
@codmill1 not only that how many people designed the new mustang alot maybe the new camaro was designed by a 18 year old kid thats a die hard chevy nut and he now works for gm
@LZFAN2009 The Mustang looks like a low-class typical American car. The Camaro is a change, that's why it's appearance is attactive. The Camaro turns heads, the Mustang doesn't buddy
@V6stangman2007 And whats worst yet for Chevy is I heard that they have a new hot rod coming out,named Chevelle. I'm wondering how bad that could cut into Camaro sales?
@rickyeguizabal Hey, I'm a women and love my 2010 SS/RS Camaro! I put in the carbon fiber interior trim, air filter myself and had the S-type Borla exhaust put in.
wow I have always loved mustangs (have a 66 fastback of my own), but I would have to pick the camaro over the mustang in this video, new camaros are just way to sick!
I think I prefer the Mustang over the Camaro.. and the only reason for that is I feel like the Mustang has fewer blindspots. still though, it's incredibly hard to decide!
So Congrats to Ford for finally making a stock Mustang GT that runs under a 13-second quarter mile. It only took them 47 years to do it, wow I am impressed! ...NOT!
What are you a Honda fanboy? hp/liter is meaningless. What matters is power vs gas mileage, and reliability. These engines compete well at all of useful stats.
i wouldn't say so.. my dad had a tahoe with 250k+ miles toed a 23ft boat uphill in the desert with 5 people ac blasting numerous times and its had close to no problems it depends how you take care of the car and the year if its good or not ford has years where they always break down.. and where some easilly last 10+ years dodge ive never heard of one lasting more than a year but thats just me
If you can send me a link I would really appriciate that. But another thing to consider is that back in the late 90's early 2000's The Big Three were able to get legislation to put and embargo on all European made cars to where is was extremely unaffordable for the average person to get a German or English made car and that would force more customers to have to buy American. So in this case you have way more American cars vs. a much much smaller amount of European cars. and all of the Euro cars
performance of either the M3 or Mustang and have all the comforts of a luxury car that you can also use for a day to day driver, in this case is the M3, and still sets the bar for all other competition, thats the car that I think is truly the best. It's the best in multiple categories, Performance, Luxury, Reliabilty, value for money, pedigree and pantomime. Thats why I believe the M3 is truly the best car. Ford is too cheap to go balls to the wall like that. Thats why I think the Mustang will
early 90's Mercedes or BMW, and on rare occasion a Volkswagen, I never see any Fords or Chevrolets in there. I would much rather pay the $70,000 for one of the most notorious sport cars in the world that will for sure last 20 years and requires a service every 15,000 miles vs. any version of the Mustang including the Roush, GT500, or Leguna Seca because For has such horrible build quality in their cars and performance is all they have. They have nothing else. I think a cars that can have the
but remember. The M3 costs that much because everything along with the performance is high quality, the SAT NAV, the fine leather, carbon fiber roof, the time and engineering that goes in to making avery single BMW have a perfect 50/50 weight distribution. That is one of their biggest concerns. I mean the BMW also cost that much because they are built to last 20 to 25 years. i mean every time you see footage of Europe or Africa and sometimes the middle East, they are all driving late 80's or
They rebuilt those 2 Vipers specifically for racing but just met the bare minimum to keep them street legal. Those were not real Vipers, they were after market race tuned fucking cop out cheater cars that Dodge built. They wouldnt stand a chane with one of their bare bones stock Vipers. And yes the Germans can cm close to that. They have and they have beaten that time. The Viper HAS THE FASTES STREET LEGAL CAR TIME AROUND THE RING! Not the fastest over all.
muscle car fans go around and say that their cars can beat any European cars. No they cannot. They cant even beat them in the 0-60 race. As you stated earlier they come close but they still dont win and so why do all of these fanboys go around saying that their muscle cars can beat all of these other cars at everything when it is common knowledge that they cannot? And Yeah The Mustang is cheap and that means its only gonna stay in one piece for about three years because its cheap and its a Ford.
But thats what defines a muscle car, V8, rear wheel drive, engine in front, and high tourque figures. And yeah, so the Mustang GT can put up a fight for the 0 to 60. But can it do anything else? No it cannot. And you know that. thats what I am arguing here. All of the cars that I have listed are just all around better cars in multiple categories. The Mustang GT, Camaro, Challenger and Charger are not. Thats the only card that they have to play and it drives me fucking crazy when all of these
I'm trading in my 2012 2LT RS camaro for a v6 mustang with the pony package. My camaro is aggravating to get in and out of. I had to learn how to get in and out without bumping into something. The camaro is heavy and steering is horrible. Its like trying to steer a boat. I test drove a 2013 mustang yesterday and was pleasantly surprised. Its much lighter, rides better in my opinion and steering is far better.
Both badass cars. I own a 2012 camaro ss but man those mustangs gt are a lot of fun, too. I've taken out a Mustang gt on the freeway on my SS. But then again, i just lost a race recently to another mustang gt on a drag race. All up to the driver lol. Drag race, i think mustang gt takes the win. I just think the camaro ss has more personality, love the design.. But idk, the more i see the mustang gt, the more i want one. If u buy either one, u will own the road.
actually my engine is smaller than yours and produces pretty much the same power in a lighter car. shit chevy got 304hp out of a 3.6L v6 in the new camaros. they are still using the same engine so far. ford has had to redesign twice just to keep up now? sadddd. a v8 is a big motor in general dude they both use big motors that's what americans do. i think you need to visit a honda video they can get 240hp out of a 2L 4 cyl. go bash them mustang boy and dont forget to squeak your tires later.
so you're saying it takes ford 650hp to do what chevy can do with 580hp? engine size comes into play here, it's called torque. chevy has always had a better torque range than ford with a bigger engine. the gt500 is a failure for the cost, it doesnt deliver. case closed on the gt500. my camaro would stay with a new v6 mustang. that big bloated 4.0L v6 in a 3500lb car pushin 305 hp isnt anything special. ford sucks dude drive a chevy.
the mustang has never killed the camaro. when has that ever happened? what ive seen is chevy comes out with a better car, then ford takes a year to see what chevy does and adds to the pos they already had. the only reason the mustang sold so well is because every little girl wants a pony. the camaro is a sporty ride that is fast and fun. chevy has the corvette to do all the talking. it's been around longer than the mustang and has never taken a break.
@Dowdproductions Ohhh I'm not putting down the V8 engine, I myself have a 2010 V8 Mustang GT 4.6L. I'm just replying to that Whiplash guy who is an idiot by saying an older V8 is better then these new V6s stock for stock. Which isn't the case, its dumb to say something like that, I know for one before I dropped a duper charger in my Mustang that a 2011 V6 Mustang was keeping up with my GT, sometimes taking me, not much of a diffrence in power, 305HP to 315HP.But now my GT is pushing out 436HP SC
@WorldOfIvillis Nooooo, chevy needed to do something fast otherwise ford was going to put them outta the running with muscle cars. Because corvette's passed into the super car class and the Camaro died in the 90's because of terrible styling and it not being a true muscle car anymore. Mustang's only changed style because of the changing times, a normal non car-nut person buys a camaro or mustang cause it looks cool and people look for something new and cooler with each passing year. So I would
@whiplash505 chill dude, their is nothing wrong with it and i never said i was cool. Im just saying my age and even i know this stuff. if you rage on youtube vids about why camaros are mass produced with 6 cylinders than maybe you should do something about it. and you just said it your self...my v6 can beat your v8 so it proves my point these newer v6 engines really have some power now grow up and act your age...kid
@lolialmostskate You're wrong the liters are metric measurement of displacement and the cubic inch is english. They measure the same thing, displacement so you can't have a difference of more than a couple inches per tenth of a liter. It's just the liter points (.1, .2 etc) are bigger than a couple of inches. That's why you can have a 302ci or a 306ci motor being a 5.0liter. But you will never have a 359 thats a 7.0liter. 359 is a 5.8 liter motor.
they are comparing a base mustang to an (ss) camero and the mustang is still winning hahaha .... plus with a whole 1.2L more then the mustang and some shitty gas mileage... camaro is garbage . lets see a regular camaro v8 nonSS go at it with a mustang... better yet sense it has a 6.2 let put it up against a fords 5.8 (650hp) and still smaller with better gas mileage ford rules and chevy is behind in technology
These v6 mustangs and camaros are about as fast as a challenger rt. Dodge stepped up in making a 392 srt8 but that only hangs with gt and ss. Fords got a boss dont know why except to make sales cuz you can get a 5.0 add a cai and tune and its just as fast as a boss for thousands less. Shelby gt500 had no comparison until now the camaro Zl1. Dodge needs to play catch up. None of them can touch a corvette zr1 though. But you can buy 2 of these ponys for the price of a zr1.
@MrSaminday just so u know that GM sucks because they didn't put the Camaro when Transformers 1 came out because it was in prototype...so u should know that the Camaro in the first movie was made by Saleen wich they modify Mustang's..too bad for GM...any other company can copy there shity prototype, if it wasn't for Saleen u will never see the Camaro in Transformer movie...GM sucks
@IDontHateOnCars Yeah, you can get better times with any car, those are just average 0-60 times. Now for the 1/4 mile, the average for the mustang gt (meaning an average timeframe, with an average driver) is good for 13.5 seconds. Now the lt1, is not a base v8 model, it's specialty, you compare cars to that to the cobras, and I know you picked the fastest possible 1/4 mile time, cause it's average is 13.8 seconds at the 1/4 mile (remember it's a 90's vehicle).
There is a reason Camaro/Firebird and Challenger didn't sell and were discontinued, GM and Chrysler stopped trying to compete and Ford took the ball and ran with it. Mustang has how many models now? You have Shelby, Roush, Saleen, Foose etc. contributing ideas and tech over the last few years and the SVT team at Ford is stellar, with the Bullit, Boss 302 and Cobra jets. GM and Chrysler are starting over and it shows. Watch SCCA racing and tell me who is miles ahead.
@Fishrocksalamander lol sorry but the ss 6.2 is $34,420 wich is the camaro 2 ss 6.2l Torque: 420 ft-lbs. @ 4600 rpm Horsepower: 426 hp @ 5900 rpm Turning circle: 37.7 ft. Drive type: rear wheel drive Transmission: 6-speed manual Rear limited slip differential and a 5.2sc 0-60 and you can say all the sith you want but i like my ss if i sell it or trade it im geting a z71 chevy lifted truck cars just to small for me thanks for the chat bud but i gtg peace out
Personally I like the Mustang better because the Camaro is based on the AUSTRALIAN Vauxhall VXR, and im not saying that that's makes it a bad car, but if I want an american muscle car, I want it to be American. (Not to sound like a smartass) But they are still both nice but I would just take the 5.0 instead cuz the engine is new as well as opposed to the good, but frankly outdated small block. It just can't rev as high and the power band isn't as broad.
@FirstOnRaceDay004 LOL, it's like they're the fat kid during gym class. Tragically hilarious, but with all seriousness i couldn't stand their all show and no go attitude, the whole our cars suck at turning so lets add weight and put a bigger engine in it, Dodge logic 101: Horsepower solves everything, "car can't turn?" Boom! add 50hp that should get you around the corner faster! Whats that? don't like the interior BOOM! 100hp that aught to keep your eyes on the road and off the stitching's.
Ford 4.6 in this test has over 100 less hp than the Camaro and it's only a tenth slower which means the new 5.0 with 412 hp instead of 315 is the fastest pony car. The Camaro looks the meanest IMO and the Challenger is the best in its retro styling, Camaro looks futuristic. 5.0 if u care strictly about performance. SS if you want nicer looks and more attention on the street. Challenger if you want retro.
in all honnesty the camaro looks like crap and im a chevy fan. however i repect all makes. the mustang looks best and is faster but only thanks to the supercharger. the challoenger looks second best but i get tired of those dodge fans thinking that the hemi is god. if all were naturally apirated the camaro wouldve been the best. but as for the 2012 pony cars the zl1 beat the crap out of the competition. however it was due to the 6.2 liter supercharged motor.
@camarotoro Have you ever owned a Camaro? I've never heard anyone say they're better handling than the Mustang. The Mustang has always been lighter and more agile. That's what the Mustangs are known for. The Camaro has always had more power but were always so heavy. Maybe that's why Car and Driver reviewed the 2010 Mustang against the new Camaro and it won. With 100 less horsepower. Now the new 5.0 is out and the Camaro doesn't stand a chance. Like you said, power is nothing without control.
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Both cars are sweet but I say GM brings back the firebird and the trans am and if that ever happens then the mustang is done
Your forgetting that its still gm and they will find a way to screw it up
Ford has done a magnificent job. It finally has the HP to match it's competitors. The new Boss 302 has me very interested.
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mustang.. my dream car... in a land of bmw's and benz's i want a mustang
does anybody else like the sound of the v6 mustang over the v8 mustang? im lovin the sound of the v6
I've always been a camaro fan. But I'm glad to see ford putting out a mustang that is FINALLY worth buying. (outside the 03/04 cobra which was pretty good). I think i'd still have the camaro based on looks but Ford has FINALLY closed the performance gap between the Camaro and the Mustang. It's about 'effin time!
@mossow71 It's already been proven that the new Hennessey HPE650 Camaro is clearly superior to the Super Snake. The Camaro had a better track time, better drag time, and better suspension than the Super Snake.
i love watching people talk crap about brands and import vs domestic. a TRUE automobile enthusiast loves cars and the technological improvements they bring, no matter what brand or where they come from.
I felt like the video was just getting started...then it ended. It seemed like it was going to be a good, in-depth review, but was unnecessarily short.
Has anyone here noticed how bad-ass the V6 Mustang sounds? It sounds like a V8!
The 4.0 was a boat anchor. But it was one hell of a reliable boat anchor. It defiantly served well in the ranger pickups.
Who agrees ? :D
Tell me about the jackshafts and cam phasers
@Disawat get the camaro rs or ls watever the v6 version the car looks good and some people may think u have the v8 version well its ur choice im just recommending the camaro
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@goarmy979 no you should say chevy not shevy.
@dddjjf how about automoble magazine it has the mustang in the 12's along with muscle car magazine. What is with you dude? and why you would bring that up i don't know because motor trend was one of the main magazines claiming the 2010 camaro was a 12 second but you say they are bias towards the mustang. Look at all the real life drag race videos on here of the mustang beating the camaro are they just bias too? how about the fact that the mustang weighs less and the engine is underated? explain?
both are amazing cars...
@mcesarey iv'e never seen a 2011 vs 2011, all the vids ive seen are 2010 vs 2011
FORD = FIX OR REPAIR DAILY 5.0???? shit that ss is 6.2 still faster and chevy and gm makes good cars i seen a camero with 449,600 miles on the engine and it started up good no check engine lights perfect car no rust garaged keep
@MaFiaPaiNTBaLLx kid, there is nothing cool about driving a camaro when you're 16.. pretty uncool if you ask me. you'll know what i mean when you get older. and yes, i know the new v6s are producing 300+Hp.. thats just great.. but you're still just driving a v6. someone that drives a muscle car with a v6 is just as lame as the person driving a honda accord. these cars were made for V8s. i dont care if your V6 has more HP than my V8. im still superior.
@gmrtg1414
Here? Where? Where is your Proof? Oh wait, you have none, and i just gave you two quotes to back up my statement.
The biggest v8 gas engine in a 1/2 ton truck today as far as i know is a 6.2l, and they haven't made them much bigger for a long time. 6.2l = Big Block. Anything above 5.9 in the automotive world is considered a big block. Wheres your facts? Id sure love you to send me a link to a page describing how a 6.2L in a camaro ISN'T a big block.
@f133n0r86 Since when does the camaro come out on top? 5.0 handles better. Is faster in the 1/4 mile.
Fastest stock 5.0 12.1/fastest stock camaro 12.5 BOTH ON DR"S/SLICKS
5.0 has still went 12.2and 12.3 with out DR's.
fastest bolt on 5.0 10.8/fastest bolt on camaro 11.7
fastest cammed 5.0..none have been done haha..fastest C/H/I Camaro 11.1..didn't even beat the bolt on 5.0.
So again where is it faster?
@Texarmageddon i could be wrong on the DOHC thing...am too lazy to look it up ..but i thought they switched to DOHC after 05 models...hell if i know..what i do know if it atleast had SOHC..wich is still 1 more than an LS1...and those engines are a 90 degree block and the heads on it are HUGE..the 4.6's are actually lager in size than the larger displacement LS1...physically larger...so for everyone who says..the 5.0's and 4.6's can beat a laerger engine...need to look at how huge they are
@Texarmageddon ..no..the new camaro is actually a lil faster...they have ran as fast as 12.8 stock with street tires...u wont see a stock LS1 car into the 12's without some drag radials...and the only reason the new camaro is'nt that much faster than the older ones..and is'nt waxing the 5.0's...is well..cause GM fucked up a lil on the new ones and made them weigh almost 4,000 lbs...only muscle car heavier right now is the challenger..weight is also it's major issue
@twfish2013 no..not really..considering the camaro is running an old shcool pushrod (single cam) engine..the 5.0 has DOHC ( 4 cams!!!)...in 2010 the 4.6 DOHC had only 315 hp..ford had to push their engines to make the extra HP the GM has usually came with stock...the GTO's had a 6.0l 400hp LS2 like 5 years ago!!....and the 6.2 is not BIGGER...yeah maybe in displacement department..but pull both those engines out ..set them side by side..and be taken back by how large a DOHC V8 actually is
@Reaper87xx I could care less if they are the most popular rent, that must mean they are popular to drive and test and such I guess. It doesn't bother me because I'm not a "fanboy" of any of these cars although I was always aware of them and their power. Again, Mustang is impressive but doesn't have neough changes besides the new 5.0 engine and the Camaro has been out since 2002. A muscle car is a muscle car, arguing about popularity and power etc. is reicoulous, they are all great.
@Manbeast222 Actually not quite, that would be the Ford SUPER DUTY keeping shops in business with that pile of shit Navistar 6.0 and 6.4L Powerjoke diesel. Not sure where you're looking but I see more Camaro SS's alone than I do 2010 and 2011 Mustang GT's and Base models combined. The Camaro USED to be bold and wow but for chrissake, they're on RENTAL lots (ok, so are Stangs) but worse, are extremely POPULAR rentals. Camrys, Impalas, Fusions...and Camaros. Ouch...
Motortrend did a comparison between an M3 and an 11 GT and the difference in performance is negligible numbers wise. The M3 was still a better driver's car but the tester said the Mustang was by far the most exciting and fun. In the early days, there was a lot of speculation that the cylinder head was set up for DI, it just wasn't implemented but it certainly looked like it was set up for it. I wouldn't be surprised to see it in a few years. 450 horsepower anyone?
@88soulsurvivor That's why you see one every 5 seconds, I'm saying the Camaro is a change but people bag on it because they can't admit that it doesn't look half bad and indeed is a performance looking car. People think i'm a criminal or something because I praise what Chevy has done, go get a life. The Mustang is an American classic, but unfortunately the truth huts: it's TOO COMMON. Ford: Keeping auto repair shops in business since 1903...
@EnEsFive If you think this is the only comparison that the Camaro beats the Mustang in any factor, then you must not watch many youtube videos or read many reviews on the comparisons of the two muscle cars because as far as i'm conerned out of all my findings, the Camaro is preffered over the Mustang. BUt again, theMustang is not far behind. Yes, the Camaro is more powerful in nmumbers, but the Mustang weights over a ton less, making them prectically the same with speed. Depends on the person..
The Camaro has impressed me in every single aspect in comarison to the Mustang EXCEPT one....the interior... Sorry Chevy, you guys really dropped the ball in that area...The interior better be MUCH improved for the 2012. Wheel too big/thick, very plain, pointless controls, cheap material, horrible visibility. Meh, I know it's not a luxury German car, but heck, a little more dedication wouldn't have hurt either. If the interior was on the same level as the exterior...SEX MACHINE.
are you guys serious???? Its all about the driver in a race!! think about it can the car turn on or manuver by it self??? NO!! can it brake by it self or know when to put the pedal to the medal??? its all about the driver. Ofcourse when going against a mini van you could say the muscle cars have a better chance but even then it all on the driver
@mcdoogle6969 yeah true but the new camaro hennessy with 650hp can kick some ass on the quarter mile and so cant the new gt 500 super snake with 750 hp both great cars ford and chevy are very competitive and make very fast cars but dodge makes there cars too heavy and the challenger doesn't even compete with the mustang and the camaro
60's = Mustang
70's = Camaro
80's= Camaro (NEVER mustang, the 80s were the worst years)
90's= A little of both
2005 + = Mustang
Pretty even, both are great cars.
The reason I like the mustang from 2005 and up, is because that is when they made the model that looks the most similar to the original, besides the 70s or just after they came out.
@bigshow196 motertrend is way more accurate dont care about car and driver yes mustang is faster than camaro its lighter mustangs are fast better watch more vids i watched a drag race camaro vs mustang vs challenger mustang won. camaro has 426hp mustang has 412 hp camaro has14hp more than mustang doesn't mean shit weight is the key thing thats why the corvettes are fast
This VS review is bad. U can tell they showed favoritism toward the Mustang and nothing for the Camaro. They didn't look inside the Camaro's Hood like they did the Mustang, also listen to how he talks about the Mustang, and then the Camaro. Not a good review at all! Not hating just saying. Give a real review!
@sandman3131 Car & Driver dec. 1993, Introduction of 4th gen LT1 Camaro and New Body Mustang
Camaro 275hp & 325tq/Mustang 5.0 215hp & 285tq. Mustang went backwards instead of forward.
0-60: Camaro 5.4/ Mustang 6.7
1/4 mile: Camaro 14.0 @102mph/ Mustang 15.1@92mph
I guess Ford doesn't care about muscle car status for the Mustang anymore at this point.
They are both great cars....but I've gotta go with the Camaro. They just captivate me. The Legend Reborn! ;) (but i have nothing against the mustang at ALL!)
My modded grand prix runs a 13.2 at 104. Whats up with the stang running a 14 flat w/ the same trap speed? Either terrible driving, or it's a slug off the line
last year Chevy sold more then ford fact ford made a lighter mustang with less power then camaro fact mustang fast in the corners camaro fast in straight line fact so enough with the fued both ford and chevy make wonderful cars and cant we just appreciate the american muscle we have all come to love
@boistown all three of my fords have been more reliable then my two chevys my 76 t bird is still running off the original partsits not a coinsadince that my 07 impala and my 03 caviler have had thousands of dollards in stupid repairs with in the year of owning them
@sandman3131 R&D Dec. 1991 pg. 76-86:
1992 Mustang LX 5.0 (302) 225hp 300tq 1992 Camaro 5.0 (305) 230hp 325tq.
0-60: Stang LX 6.9 Camaro 6.6
1/4 mile: Stang LX 15.5 @90mph Camaro 15.1 @93mph.
It's all there man. Just go to your local library and check out those Mags. I've mentioned.
@sandman3131 I have to disagree with you. Mustang only succeed in 1982-1985 and after that it's been all Chevy and Pontiac.
Checkout R&D Oct. 1986 pg. 40-45: Mustang 5.0 225hp & 300tq. Camaro 5.0 220hp & 325 tq.
0-60: Stang 6.7 Camaro 6.7
1/4 mile: Stang 15.4 Camaro 15.2
Having owned two GT's and now a V6, the Mustang V6 is great. Quick and nimble. You really notice the lower weight in the front end. A manual is a must have.
@QuickStang5o the 5.0 is 300 pounds lighter and the dyno's say the 5.0 motor is stronger...............thats a big difference. so i believe motor trend
@TheAustinFleming Oh far from it! I'm just 16. My dad told me about that Ford joke. I love the Camaro not just because my family has liked chevy and GMC, its just PURDY!
Look, I don't want this to get out of hand. I'm just saying my opinion that's all.
@gmrtg1414 i wasn't talking about GM's i was talking in general. It might not be a small block to GM but to everyone else it is a big block. The biggest v8 on the market today from a american auto manufacturer is a 6.2. So its considered "big"
@MrBriggsie theres no wway a camaro weighs 4600 the challenger weighs almost 4100 pounds and has one horepower less than camaro and looses to a camaro 0-60 and quarter mile if camaro weighed 4600 the challenger would beat camaro.
@sandman3131 Like I said, don't get comfortable because in 2012 the Camaro is moving away from the Zeta Platform and into the lighter A Platform. HP is predicted to be at 435-440hp. The V6 which is already 312hp today will be 330hp.
@ALPHADOG3 Ford failed on the styling? Are you on crack or something? The Camaro looks like a bloated Hot Wheels toy, and the grille makes the car look like it's smiling. And have you seen the rear reverse lights? Looks like an afterthought on Chevy's part.
@EnEsFive I'm still convinced the Camaro performs better, although i'll give the Mustang it's dues for being a bit more agile since it is ALOT lighter, i'm just talking about stuff that would have made it more visibly appealing to the consumer.
@f133n0r86 funny thing is, i have a brand new 2012 5.0 mustang ran a 12.5@114 mph with a 2.0 60ft all stock:/ o and look again the new 5.0's are beating the SS's all day. Even the automatic 5.0 beats the SS
@cornholiofromtitica
Yeah plus the Camaro was designed by a guy from Japan, who apparently didn't know what a retro car should look like. Mustangs are soon going to be 100% American made unlike the Camaro.
@MrMopar4ever dude i had an 83 cordoba 360 with a 4 sp slapshift and it kicked the shit out of a 81 355 z28 camaro and a 74 nova mopar rules though my 86 thunderbird never had any problems that thing was a monster
@kodyfootball haha yeah right camaro is not better than the 5.0 car and driver sucks the mustang 5.0 handles alot better than the camaro and is faster 0-60 and faster at a quarter mile look at motor trend then you will shut up!
@Valis2008 Your grammar is so awful, I don't even know what to make of that. And since I pretty much just ripped apart an entire SN-95 a few weekends ago, tell again what I don't know about, again? hmm....
@TheFordman30287 Even though I like the Camaro better, I agree. I'm sure the ZL1 would struggle against the GT & 5.0. Doesn't even contend with the Cobra, Boss 302, or Laguna Seca, for obvious reasons.
@6308281
No not 65% just the tranny. The Mustang itself is built uin Flat Rock Michigan, and is engineered in the U,S, The Camaro pretty much the same except it was designed by a Asian man.
@Lifan2009 no, but I believe false advertising and fraud are against the law. I suppose they found a loophole though be simply calling it that without actually claiming the car was made in the given year.
I'm a chevy fan, but if you were to give me a ford mustang I would gladly take it! Hey why fight? As long as American cars come out on top of those shit imports then I'm happy.
@dddjjf no 5.0 does a quarter mile in 12.8 sec @ 110 camaro does a quarter mile over 13 sec.mustang is much lighter magazines say mustang 5.0 faster than camaro ss and challenger srt 8.
@codmill1 not only that how many people designed the new mustang alot maybe the new camaro was designed by a 18 year old kid thats a die hard chevy nut and he now works for gm
@LZFAN2009 The Mustang looks like a low-class typical American car. The Camaro is a change, that's why it's appearance is attactive. The Camaro turns heads, the Mustang doesn't buddy
@V6stangman2007 And whats worst yet for Chevy is I heard that they have a new hot rod coming out,named Chevelle. I'm wondering how bad that could cut into Camaro sales?
@rickyeguizabal Hey, I'm a women and love my 2010 SS/RS Camaro! I put in the carbon fiber interior trim, air filter myself and had the S-type Borla exhaust put in.
wow I have always loved mustangs (have a 66 fastback of my own), but I would have to pick the camaro over the mustang in this video, new camaros are just way to sick!
I think I prefer the Mustang over the Camaro.. and the only reason for that is I feel like the Mustang has fewer blindspots. still though, it's incredibly hard to decide!
So Congrats to Ford for finally making a stock Mustang GT that runs under a 13-second quarter mile. It only took them 47 years to do it, wow I am impressed! ...NOT!
What are you a Honda fanboy?
hp/liter is meaningless. What matters is power vs gas mileage, and reliability. These engines compete well at all of useful stats.
Its hard to argue with skidpad, but seriously how did the V6 Mustang which in this lot should be the worst handling, achieve the best skidpad result?
@ThePrinceOfSanDiego the zl1 is coming out but remember that ford is making the new gt500 with a new 5.8liter and its going to kill the camaro zl1
and why are they not using the 2011 camaro????? oh wait thats right, because the 2011 camaro beats the 2011 mustang.... cant have that now can we.
@thunderup86 You obviously haven't researched what you just said. the camaro is the heavier car here.
you know the camaro is pushing 3800lbs right?
i wouldn't say so.. my dad had a tahoe with 250k+ miles toed a 23ft boat uphill in the desert with 5 people ac blasting numerous times and its had close to no problems it depends how you take care of the car and the year if its good or not ford has years where they always break down.. and where some easilly last 10+ years dodge ive never heard of one lasting more than a year but thats just me
If you can send me a link I would really appriciate that. But another thing to consider is that back in the late 90's early 2000's The Big Three were able to get legislation to put and embargo on all European made cars to where is was extremely unaffordable for the average person to get a German or English made car and that would force more customers to have to buy American. So in this case you have way more American cars vs. a much much smaller amount of European cars. and all of the Euro cars
performance of either the M3 or Mustang and have all the comforts of a luxury car that you can also use for a day to day driver, in this case is the M3, and still sets the bar for all other competition, thats the car that I think is truly the best. It's the best in multiple categories, Performance, Luxury, Reliabilty, value for money, pedigree and pantomime. Thats why I believe the M3 is truly the best car. Ford is too cheap to go balls to the wall like that. Thats why I think the Mustang will
early 90's Mercedes or BMW, and on rare occasion a Volkswagen, I never see any Fords or Chevrolets in there. I would much rather pay the $70,000 for one of the most notorious sport cars in the world that will for sure last 20 years and requires a service every 15,000 miles vs. any version of the Mustang including the Roush, GT500, or Leguna Seca because For has such horrible build quality in their cars and performance is all they have. They have nothing else. I think a cars that can have the
but remember. The M3 costs that much because everything along with the performance is high quality, the SAT NAV, the fine leather, carbon fiber roof, the time and engineering that goes in to making avery single BMW have a perfect 50/50 weight distribution. That is one of their biggest concerns. I mean the BMW also cost that much because they are built to last 20 to 25 years. i mean every time you see footage of Europe or Africa and sometimes the middle East, they are all driving late 80's or
They rebuilt those 2 Vipers specifically for racing but just met the bare minimum to keep them street legal. Those were not real Vipers, they were after market race tuned fucking cop out cheater cars that Dodge built. They wouldnt stand a chane with one of their bare bones stock Vipers. And yes the Germans can cm close to that. They have and they have beaten that time. The Viper HAS THE FASTES STREET LEGAL CAR TIME AROUND THE RING! Not the fastest over all.
muscle car fans go around and say that their cars can beat any European cars. No they cannot. They cant even beat them in the 0-60 race. As you stated earlier they come close but they still dont win and so why do all of these fanboys go around saying that their muscle cars can beat all of these other cars at everything when it is common knowledge that they cannot? And Yeah The Mustang is cheap and that means its only gonna stay in one piece for about three years because its cheap and its a Ford.
But thats what defines a muscle car, V8, rear wheel drive, engine in front, and high tourque figures. And yeah, so the Mustang GT can put up a fight for the 0 to 60. But can it do anything else? No it cannot. And you know that. thats what I am arguing here. All of the cars that I have listed are just all around better cars in multiple categories. The Mustang GT, Camaro, Challenger and Charger are not. Thats the only card that they have to play and it drives me fucking crazy when all of these
I'm trading in my 2012 2LT RS camaro for a v6 mustang with the pony package. My camaro is aggravating to get in and out of. I had to learn how to get in and out without bumping into something. The camaro is heavy and steering is horrible. Its like trying to steer a boat. I test drove a 2013 mustang yesterday and was pleasantly surprised. Its much lighter, rides better in my opinion and steering is far better.
Both badass cars. I own a 2012 camaro ss but man those mustangs gt are a lot of fun, too. I've taken out a Mustang gt on the freeway on my SS. But then again, i just lost a race recently to another mustang gt on a drag race. All up to the driver lol. Drag race, i think mustang gt takes the win. I just think the camaro ss has more personality, love the design.. But idk, the more i see the mustang gt, the more i want one. If u buy either one, u will own the road.
actually my engine is smaller than yours and produces pretty much the same power in a lighter car. shit chevy got 304hp out of a 3.6L v6 in the new camaros. they are still using the same engine so far. ford has had to redesign twice just to keep up now? sadddd. a v8 is a big motor in general dude they both use big motors that's what americans do. i think you need to visit a honda video they can get 240hp out of a 2L 4 cyl. go bash them mustang boy and dont forget to squeak your tires later.
so you're saying it takes ford 650hp to do what chevy can do with 580hp? engine size comes into play here, it's called torque. chevy has always had a better torque range than ford with a bigger engine. the gt500 is a failure for the cost, it doesnt deliver. case closed on the gt500. my camaro would stay with a new v6 mustang. that big bloated 4.0L v6 in a 3500lb car pushin 305 hp isnt anything special. ford sucks dude drive a chevy.
the mustang has never killed the camaro. when has that ever happened? what ive seen is chevy comes out with a better car, then ford takes a year to see what chevy does and adds to the pos they already had. the only reason the mustang sold so well is because every little girl wants a pony. the camaro is a sporty ride that is fast and fun. chevy has the corvette to do all the talking. it's been around longer than the mustang and has never taken a break.
@Dowdproductions Ohhh I'm not putting down the V8 engine, I myself have a 2010 V8 Mustang GT 4.6L. I'm just replying to that Whiplash guy who is an idiot by saying an older V8 is better then these new V6s stock for stock. Which isn't the case, its dumb to say something like that, I know for one before I dropped a duper charger in my Mustang that a 2011 V6 Mustang was keeping up with my GT, sometimes taking me, not much of a diffrence in power, 305HP to 315HP.But now my GT is pushing out 436HP SC
@WorldOfIvillis Nooooo, chevy needed to do something fast otherwise ford was going to put them outta the running with muscle cars. Because corvette's passed into the super car class and the Camaro died in the 90's because of terrible styling and it not being a true muscle car anymore. Mustang's only changed style because of the changing times, a normal non car-nut person buys a camaro or mustang cause it looks cool and people look for something new and cooler with each passing year. So I would
@whiplash505 chill dude, their is nothing wrong with it and i never said i was cool. Im just saying my age and even i know this stuff. if you rage on youtube vids about why camaros are mass produced with 6 cylinders than maybe you should do something about it. and you just said it your self...my v6 can beat your v8 so it proves my point these newer v6 engines really have some power now grow up and act your age...kid
@lolialmostskate You're wrong the liters are metric measurement of displacement and the cubic inch is english. They measure the same thing, displacement so you can't have a difference of more than a couple inches per tenth of a liter. It's just the liter points (.1, .2 etc) are bigger than a couple of inches. That's why you can have a 302ci or a 306ci motor being a 5.0liter. But you will never have a 359 thats a 7.0liter. 359 is a 5.8 liter motor.
they are comparing a base mustang to an (ss) camero and the mustang is still winning hahaha ....
plus with a whole 1.2L more then the mustang and some shitty gas mileage... camaro is garbage
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lets see a regular camaro v8 nonSS go at it with a mustang... better yet sense it has a 6.2 let put it up against a fords 5.8 (650hp) and still smaller with better gas mileage
ford rules and chevy is behind in technology
These v6 mustangs and camaros are about as fast as a challenger rt. Dodge stepped up in making a 392 srt8 but that only hangs with gt and ss. Fords got a boss dont know why except to make sales cuz you can get a 5.0 add a cai and tune and its just as fast as a boss for thousands less. Shelby gt500 had no comparison until now the camaro Zl1. Dodge needs to play catch up. None of them can touch a corvette zr1 though. But you can buy 2 of these ponys for the price of a zr1.
@MrSaminday just so u know that GM sucks because they didn't put the Camaro when Transformers 1 came out because it was in prototype...so u should know that the Camaro in the first movie was made by Saleen wich they modify Mustang's..too bad for GM...any other company can copy there shity prototype, if it wasn't for Saleen u will never see the Camaro in Transformer movie...GM sucks
@IDontHateOnCars Yeah, you can get better times with any car, those are just average 0-60 times. Now for the 1/4 mile, the average for the mustang gt (meaning an average timeframe, with an average driver) is good for 13.5 seconds. Now the lt1, is not a base v8 model, it's specialty, you compare cars to that to the cobras, and I know you picked the fastest possible 1/4 mile time, cause it's average is 13.8 seconds at the 1/4 mile (remember it's a 90's vehicle).
There is a reason Camaro/Firebird and Challenger didn't sell and were discontinued, GM and Chrysler stopped trying to compete and Ford took the ball and ran with it. Mustang has how many models now? You have Shelby, Roush, Saleen, Foose etc. contributing ideas and tech over the last few years and the SVT team at Ford is stellar, with the Bullit, Boss 302 and Cobra jets. GM and Chrysler are starting over and it shows. Watch SCCA racing and tell me who is miles ahead.
@Fishrocksalamander lol sorry but the ss 6.2 is $34,420 wich is the camaro 2 ss 6.2l Torque: 420 ft-lbs. @ 4600 rpm Horsepower: 426 hp @ 5900 rpm Turning circle: 37.7 ft. Drive type: rear wheel drive
Transmission: 6-speed manual Rear limited slip differential and a 5.2sc 0-60 and you can say all the sith you want but i like my ss if i sell it or trade it im geting a z71 chevy lifted truck cars just to small for me thanks for the chat bud but i gtg peace out
Personally I like the Mustang better because the Camaro is based on the AUSTRALIAN Vauxhall VXR, and im not saying that that's makes it a bad car, but if I want an american muscle car, I want it to be American. (Not to sound like a smartass) But they are still both nice but I would just take the 5.0 instead cuz the engine is new as well as opposed to the good, but frankly outdated small block. It just can't rev as high and the power band isn't as broad.
@FirstOnRaceDay004 LOL, it's like they're the fat kid during gym class. Tragically hilarious, but with all seriousness i couldn't stand their all show and no go attitude, the whole our cars suck at turning so lets add weight and put a bigger engine in it, Dodge logic 101: Horsepower solves everything, "car can't turn?" Boom! add 50hp that should get you around the corner faster! Whats that? don't like the interior BOOM! 100hp that aught to keep your eyes on the road and off the stitching's.
Ford 4.6 in this test has over 100 less hp than the Camaro and it's only a tenth slower which means the new 5.0 with 412 hp instead of 315 is the fastest pony car. The Camaro looks the meanest IMO and the Challenger is the best in its retro styling, Camaro looks futuristic. 5.0 if u care strictly about performance. SS if you want nicer looks and more attention on the street. Challenger if you want retro.
in all honnesty the camaro looks like crap and im a chevy fan. however i repect all makes. the mustang looks best and is faster but only thanks to the supercharger. the challoenger looks second best but i get tired of those dodge fans thinking that the hemi is god. if all were naturally apirated the camaro wouldve been the best. but as for the 2012 pony cars the zl1 beat the crap out of the competition. however it was due to the 6.2 liter supercharged motor.
@camarotoro Have you ever owned a Camaro? I've never heard anyone say they're better handling than the Mustang. The Mustang has always been lighter and more agile. That's what the Mustangs are known for. The Camaro has always had more power but were always so heavy. Maybe that's why Car and Driver reviewed the 2010 Mustang against the new Camaro and it won. With 100 less horsepower. Now the new 5.0 is out and the Camaro doesn't stand a chance. Like you said, power is nothing without control.