The first and third post had the fucking weirdest people in them. "Im sorry you were cursed with a daughter" and "I'll blast the pants cannon in your face, also how dare you be upset with me" is just. Peak creature
I'm surprised no one pointed out that while Lily is fine to ask the mom's advice and did the right thing for herself by breaking up with the guy, it was unnecessary and sucky of her to tell the son she partially based it off the conversation with his mom.
I’m chalking this up as she’s 20 years old and probably this is her first real breakup of a major relationship, so she didn’t really know how to handle it with tact. She definitely could have handled it better but it’s also understandable young actions
I don't think it's a bad thing that she told her that it partially had to do with the mom's conversation. She's being honest with him that she sought advice from his mom on this and that it helped her come to the conclusion to break up with him. Is it not the best news to hear in the perspective of the son? Yes. But at the same time, I think Lily did the right thing by telling the truth.
@@queenautumnween2796 I don't agree with that at all. At worst it feels like betrayal and increases the sense that you're pitting family members against each other. At best it's increasing the involvement of external people in a situation that is really only about the two of you - not in a way that might be useful like initially asking for the advice, only in a way that's going to increase and spread around the hurt that people feel.
Y'all were right about the last one being a crossing of boundaries. Realistically some people will think a fart in the face is funny, especially if it's a part of an extended bit they're already in on. His whole family texting her to berate her for being uncomfortable with that is also just so weird. It does sound like he might have been a bit drunk, but that can at most be a reason his apology might be believable if he ever actually bothered to give a real one.
In reference to the boy mom thing, my grandmother has little to no respect for my mom (her only child) but listens to every word that comes out of my dads mouth as if it were gospel. Our theory for years has been what Joseph said: some women just hate other women
2nd poster isnt TA but the son DEFINITELY has all the signs of someone who has recently fallen into a depression or has undiagnosed ADHD and is struggling without the structure of high school.
Yeah like, I think the moms advice was good but there's _nothing_ in the post to show that they've really tried to get the guy help or informed him these things are issues. There's easily a world where they have and he persists, but it just as easily sounds like the mom sees this as his reality and is just as ok to leaved him be. Hopefully this does actually light a fire under him, but if the issue is depression I can see him viewing his mom convincing his partner to leave as something that really accelerates the downward spiral.
Not just that. I think the easiest litmus test for anyone suffering with a gamer son is - "have you ever seriously tried to play with him?" Did you ever really take an interest on your son's/ boyfriend's hobbies, or did you just dismiss them as childish and unattractive? If you give them the attention and opportunities they need to grow and they still don't, fine, tough love. But if you've always been cold to them about something they're passionate about, the relationship probably ended because of you, not them. I'm certainly not going to say anyone should keep dating someone they aren't attracted to, but attraction comes just as much from you as it does from your partner.
While that's true, the fact still remains that he hasn't approached anyone about it and has been actively neglecting his partner and family. I've been there, with undiagnosed ADHD and falling into depression. But I knew there was SOME problem, talked to friends and my parents about it, and at least tried to make stuff work. The illness is only a valid reason for decline if you're trying to fight it, even if you're failing. This dude isn't just gaming (which arguably could be excused) but also going to parties, which takes way more effort and energy and he's doing it often enough it's mentioned as a part of his personality. Dude is going to need years to get himself into a date-ready condition again, and as much as it sucks, Lilly is not responsible nor obligated to be there for it. You can fall into those issues but still work against it through the decline, making sticking with you worth it. He absolutely has not, and Lilly and the dude's mom are absolutely right to advise distance in his situation.
I went through this and if I'd found out that my mother, one of the few people that I have any kind of trust for, has advised the breakup (or even technically just advised she "do what she needs to"), I would have attempted suicide. There's no reason why the relationship couldn't have been worked on by both parties without the intervention of the mother. I'm still in the downward spiral of that breakup almost five YEARS later and would probably even attempt it now if it was revealed now.
I fart on my SO sometimes, but its more of like a 'we're in bed and I don't feel like turning around' thing. To stand up at a family dinner and fart in your girlfriends face is insane behavior lol
So true. It is very understandable for a 20 year old to have no direction in life, especially in this day and age where end stage capitalism guarantees none of us have a future. However, you still have to try. You can't just sit around brooding all the time. Life sucks, but that's precisely why you have to work hard to make it as good as it can be. The guy's behavior is justified, but it is not excusable.
almost all of the conversation about ambition and stuff was totally irrelevant to the post. If Lily was the one without ambition was considering leaving the guy because she thought he had too much ambition, there's still nothing wrong with what the mom said
I think the difference is drive and will. He had no drive to do anything with her, or work on what he wanted to do. She had all the drive, ambition, and whatever. It's true, the mom said it all in a way that left the choice to Lily, but I understand why it happened. If there is a hard working partner, and a lazy partner, the hard worker is eventually going to be annoyed because they are the only one trying.
I hadn't thought about it this way, but op is right here. The point is that if their partner isn't matching what they need in life, the best thing they can do is put themself first and break up. It doesn't really matter what way specifically the two people aren't on the same page.
On the doordash ableism topic. If you legitimately have a medical condition that stops you from being able to cook or get food for yourself then you need a care taker not doordash. I say this as somebody who has ADHD and as such problems with motivation but you can't call ablism whenever somebody tells you you should try to on some level have your shit together. You are allowed to struggle sometimes and you don't have to be perfect but for fucks sake don't use big words like ablism to be the worst version of yourself.
The way Lily broke up with the son was terrible. If the relationship was going on so long that she developed a relationship with his parents he deserved more than a break up text. She also didn’t have to mention the conversation with the mother. That was the horrible aspect of the story. The son meanwhile is not the asshole of the story because from his perspective what he knows is that his mom talked to his GF and that got her to break up with him. That is a good “wake up call” but have the empathy of that really sucks to be him rn and he’s justified being upset. Lily is the asshole
I'll have you know I have a friend that found enough meaning, motivation and empathy in Frieren that she technically did bust down his door and help him get his life back together.
I can't drive, use the stove well ( i end up hurting myself 8/10), and if i eat only frozen foods i will get a tummy ache. So if I am home w out mh famiky i'm ordering pizza
Coming in at the 16 min marl to say, 10 bucks says the weirdo sister in law is also hella transphobic, because caring about your kids gender that much can only lead to transphobia.
Where do they live, China, or some other country where the daughters family is expected to pay their spouse's family with a marriage gift? That's just stupid
To be fair, I expect if everyone got food delivered to their door all the time, it would increase pollution and traffic issues significantly, at the very least. So yes, perhaps it should not be a daily thing that *everyone* does.
So I'm someone who is (trying) to be the guy that is never mean or accusatory towards others. That first lady.....yeah no, that is your sibling in law. They were making a LOT of assumptions, and being extremely aggressive about their viewpoint being universal. I'm sorry, but the only actual reasonable response to someone basically assaulting you with words is to lash back. "You're extremely weird" and leaving is self defense at that stage. You NEED to get out of that situation, get distance, then if they're open to discussion you can try to apologize and open it up. But if you're just caught in that situation? No, that's emotional self defense. Yes there is collateral damage, but that collateral is the same as bleeding knucles and bruises after someone comes at you with a knife. False equivalence, I know, but the scale does transfer. And I am well aware of the Boy Mom sphere. It isn't a religious-exclusive thing. It is just a widespread subculture that is....really, really worrying. Heck I've known people from cultures where the "Sire an heir" thing is common among WOMEN, and it isn't universal there. It's actually just it's own detached thing.
That 2nd post: That mom ain't just Not the Ass, she's a god-chosen HERO. Heck, I'd even advise her to just go out on her own and hang out with Lilly if she can. No shame in keeping friends, just be careful about divulging that info. She acknowledged her son was a deadbeat, and did the LOVING thing for Lilly. Huge props.
What even is that 3rd post? She goes out of her way it get them a semi-formal event with his family AT HER WORK that she went out of her way to help set up, and He does THAT? What the hell? Is this real? No one is that lacking in self awareness of time and fucking place right? If this post is real, Then she needs to make him an ex ASAP, because Holy shit.
Not saying that he didn't deserve to get dumped, but I really think that the Mom in the second story should also get her son some type of psych eval. At least to me, it kinda sounds like the dude might be depressed or having some issues with executive disfunction. I'm a young adult with ADHD, and I feel like I would've been in a similar position to that guy if I hadn't gotten diagnosed and medicated (well, minus the breakup 'cause I'm aroace).
While I agree that the dude could probably use some therapy I think his mom should at most suggest it to him, if a dude starts going to therapy because of his mom after her made her girlfriend break up with him it's not going to produce any results. If he wants help absolutely give him all the support in the world, but he should be the one making the first step and his parents just try to nudge him in that direction. Also while it could be that he has some mental problem, at the same time it's also possible that he's just very irresponsible, and while therapy could help a little bit, the best thing he could do imo would be to just try and find something he's really passionate about and try his best to make something out of it
I feel like the reason they chose the 1st post was just to clown on these type of people, I'd rather have an interessting debate rather than a clear answer
I'm not saying what Joseph said about the founding fathers doing bottom prep was accurate, I'm just saying that George Washington had wooden teeth and Patrick Henry died of anal splinters
Regarding the first one -- I don't really think either of them are assholes, but I think calling her weird was more rude. She was just trying to offer what she could to someone from her perspective. You only have your perspective to go off of, and I wouldn't be surprised if that was all she knew or her other mother friends reinforced her belief. Some people are just awkward, it's obvious her heart was in the right place. It's hard to process situations like that and respond correctly though. I can't believe this got a reddit post.
I've never wished this podcast had facecams on more than when they were all doing the pretend to runaway after farting bit
The first and third post had the fucking weirdest people in them. "Im sorry you were cursed with a daughter" and "I'll blast the pants cannon in your face, also how dare you be upset with me" is just. Peak creature
As a girl named Lily I just wanted to express my appreciation at my name being called nice and "very cute." It honeslty gave me a big smile.
I laughed so hard during Joseph's explanation of his relationship with his wife's farts that I almost crashed my car. Good bit
I'm surprised no one pointed out that while Lily is fine to ask the mom's advice and did the right thing for herself by breaking up with the guy, it was unnecessary and sucky of her to tell the son she partially based it off the conversation with his mom.
I’m chalking this up as she’s 20 years old and probably this is her first real breakup of a major relationship, so she didn’t really know how to handle it with tact. She definitely could have handled it better but it’s also understandable young actions
@@aaronman4772 that's fair
I don't think it's a bad thing that she told her that it partially had to do with the mom's conversation. She's being honest with him that she sought advice from his mom on this and that it helped her come to the conclusion to break up with him. Is it not the best news to hear in the perspective of the son? Yes. But at the same time, I think Lily did the right thing by telling the truth.
@@queenautumnween2796 I don't agree with that at all. At worst it feels like betrayal and increases the sense that you're pitting family members against each other. At best it's increasing the involvement of external people in a situation that is really only about the two of you - not in a way that might be useful like initially asking for the advice, only in a way that's going to increase and spread around the hurt that people feel.
She’s just being honest. Probably didn’t think it through, or even wants him to talk to his mum so he can hear it from her too.
"It's not gonna happen because Frieren breaks down your door"
NOOOO!!! ~disintegrates~
Y'all were right about the last one being a crossing of boundaries. Realistically some people will think a fart in the face is funny, especially if it's a part of an extended bit they're already in on. His whole family texting her to berate her for being uncomfortable with that is also just so weird. It does sound like he might have been a bit drunk, but that can at most be a reason his apology might be believable if he ever actually bothered to give a real one.
In reference to the boy mom thing, my grandmother has little to no respect for my mom (her only child) but listens to every word that comes out of my dads mouth as if it were gospel. Our theory for years has been what Joseph said: some women just hate other women
2nd poster isnt TA but the son DEFINITELY has all the signs of someone who has recently fallen into a depression or has undiagnosed ADHD and is struggling without the structure of high school.
Yeah like, I think the moms advice was good but there's _nothing_ in the post to show that they've really tried to get the guy help or informed him these things are issues. There's easily a world where they have and he persists, but it just as easily sounds like the mom sees this as his reality and is just as ok to leaved him be.
Hopefully this does actually light a fire under him, but if the issue is depression I can see him viewing his mom convincing his partner to leave as something that really accelerates the downward spiral.
Not just that. I think the easiest litmus test for anyone suffering with a gamer son is - "have you ever seriously tried to play with him?" Did you ever really take an interest on your son's/ boyfriend's hobbies, or did you just dismiss them as childish and unattractive? If you give them the attention and opportunities they need to grow and they still don't, fine, tough love. But if you've always been cold to them about something they're passionate about, the relationship probably ended because of you, not them.
I'm certainly not going to say anyone should keep dating someone they aren't attracted to, but attraction comes just as much from you as it does from your partner.
While that's true, the fact still remains that he hasn't approached anyone about it and has been actively neglecting his partner and family. I've been there, with undiagnosed ADHD and falling into depression. But I knew there was SOME problem, talked to friends and my parents about it, and at least tried to make stuff work. The illness is only a valid reason for decline if you're trying to fight it, even if you're failing. This dude isn't just gaming (which arguably could be excused) but also going to parties, which takes way more effort and energy and he's doing it often enough it's mentioned as a part of his personality. Dude is going to need years to get himself into a date-ready condition again, and as much as it sucks, Lilly is not responsible nor obligated to be there for it.
You can fall into those issues but still work against it through the decline, making sticking with you worth it. He absolutely has not, and Lilly and the dude's mom are absolutely right to advise distance in his situation.
I went through this and if I'd found out that my mother, one of the few people that I have any kind of trust for, has advised the breakup (or even technically just advised she "do what she needs to"), I would have attempted suicide. There's no reason why the relationship couldn't have been worked on by both parties without the intervention of the mother. I'm still in the downward spiral of that breakup almost five YEARS later and would probably even attempt it now if it was revealed now.
I fart on my SO sometimes, but its more of like a 'we're in bed and I don't feel like turning around' thing. To stand up at a family dinner and fart in your girlfriends face is insane behavior lol
Need Frieren to break down my door and fix me
Bruv Frieren can't even fix herself, how she gonna fix you?
Week 12 without a guest appearance by George Santos
Can you guys commission me to make a “You are extremely weird” T Shirt? Thanks
I dont think its some kind of failing to not have a direction in life at 20, but you gotta be trying atleast a little
So true. It is very understandable for a 20 year old to have no direction in life, especially in this day and age where end stage capitalism guarantees none of us have a future. However, you still have to try. You can't just sit around brooding all the time. Life sucks, but that's precisely why you have to work hard to make it as good as it can be. The guy's behavior is justified, but it is not excusable.
almost all of the conversation about ambition and stuff was totally irrelevant to the post. If Lily was the one without ambition was considering leaving the guy because she thought he had too much ambition, there's still nothing wrong with what the mom said
I think the difference is drive and will. He had no drive to do anything with her, or work on what he wanted to do. She had all the drive, ambition, and whatever. It's true, the mom said it all in a way that left the choice to Lily, but I understand why it happened. If there is a hard working partner, and a lazy partner, the hard worker is eventually going to be annoyed because they are the only one trying.
I hadn't thought about it this way, but op is right here. The point is that if their partner isn't matching what they need in life, the best thing they can do is put themself first and break up. It doesn't really matter what way specifically the two people aren't on the same page.
On the doordash ableism topic. If you legitimately have a medical condition that stops you from being able to cook or get food for yourself then you need a care taker not doordash.
I say this as somebody who has ADHD and as such problems with motivation but you can't call ablism whenever somebody tells you you should try to on some level have your shit together.
You are allowed to struggle sometimes and you don't have to be perfect but for fucks sake don't use big words like ablism to be the worst version of yourself.
i feel like the first one is happening in a different dimension or something. What is going on ???????
The way Lily broke up with the son was terrible. If the relationship was going on so long that she developed a relationship with his parents he deserved more than a break up text. She also didn’t have to mention the conversation with the mother. That was the horrible aspect of the story. The son meanwhile is not the asshole of the story because from his perspective what he knows is that his mom talked to his GF and that got her to break up with him. That is a good “wake up call” but have the empathy of that really sucks to be him rn and he’s justified being upset. Lily is the asshole
BRO PLEASE TURN UP THE VOLUME, I HAVE TO PUT MY VOLUME ALL THE WAY UP TO HEAR AND THE ADS RAPE MY EARS 😭😭
I'll have you know I have a friend that found enough meaning, motivation and empathy in Frieren that she technically did bust down his door and help him get his life back together.
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Lilly kinda fucked up by saying his mom gave her the advice lol, still shoulda done it though.
I can't drive, use the stove well ( i end up hurting myself 8/10), and if i eat only frozen foods i will get a tummy ache. So if I am home w out mh famiky i'm ordering pizza
Peeps is also a Social Worker?!? Based.
Social Worker stocks on the rise.
Coming in at the 16 min marl to say, 10 bucks says the weirdo sister in law is also hella transphobic, because caring about your kids gender that much can only lead to transphobia.
Where do they live, China, or some other country where the daughters family is expected to pay their spouse's family with a marriage gift? That's just stupid
To be fair, I expect if everyone got food delivered to their door all the time, it would increase pollution and traffic issues significantly, at the very least. So yes, perhaps it should not be a daily thing that *everyone* does.
So I'm someone who is (trying) to be the guy that is never mean or accusatory towards others.
That first lady.....yeah no, that is your sibling in law. They were making a LOT of assumptions, and being extremely aggressive about their viewpoint being universal. I'm sorry, but the only actual reasonable response to someone basically assaulting you with words is to lash back. "You're extremely weird" and leaving is self defense at that stage. You NEED to get out of that situation, get distance, then if they're open to discussion you can try to apologize and open it up. But if you're just caught in that situation? No, that's emotional self defense. Yes there is collateral damage, but that collateral is the same as bleeding knucles and bruises after someone comes at you with a knife.
False equivalence, I know, but the scale does transfer. And I am well aware of the Boy Mom sphere. It isn't a religious-exclusive thing. It is just a widespread subculture that is....really, really worrying. Heck I've known people from cultures where the "Sire an heir" thing is common among WOMEN, and it isn't universal there. It's actually just it's own detached thing.
That 2nd post: That mom ain't just Not the Ass, she's a god-chosen HERO. Heck, I'd even advise her to just go out on her own and hang out with Lilly if she can. No shame in keeping friends, just be careful about divulging that info. She acknowledged her son was a deadbeat, and did the LOVING thing for Lilly. Huge props.
The reason i use doordash is because i don't have a car and can't drive somewhere to get food.
What even is that 3rd post? She goes out of her way it get them a semi-formal event with his family AT HER WORK that she went out of her way to help set up, and He does THAT? What the hell? Is this real? No one is that lacking in self awareness of time and fucking place right? If this post is real, Then she needs to make him an ex ASAP, because Holy shit.
Not saying that he didn't deserve to get dumped, but I really think that the Mom in the second story should also get her son some type of psych eval.
At least to me, it kinda sounds like the dude might be depressed or having some issues with executive disfunction. I'm a young adult with ADHD, and I feel like I would've been in a similar position to that guy if I hadn't gotten diagnosed and medicated (well, minus the breakup 'cause I'm aroace).
While I agree that the dude could probably use some therapy I think his mom should at most suggest it to him, if a dude starts going to therapy because of his mom after her made her girlfriend break up with him it's not going to produce any results. If he wants help absolutely give him all the support in the world, but he should be the one making the first step and his parents just try to nudge him in that direction.
Also while it could be that he has some mental problem, at the same time it's also possible that he's just very irresponsible, and while therapy could help a little bit, the best thing he could do imo would be to just try and find something he's really passionate about and try his best to make something out of it
I feel like the reason they chose the 1st post was just to clown on these type of people, I'd rather have an interessting debate rather than a clear answer
I'm not saying what Joseph said about the founding fathers doing bottom prep was accurate, I'm just saying that George Washington had wooden teeth and Patrick Henry died of anal splinters
Regarding the first one -- I don't really think either of them are assholes, but I think calling her weird was more rude. She was just trying to offer what she could to someone from her perspective. You only have your perspective to go off of, and I wouldn't be surprised if that was all she knew or her other mother friends reinforced her belief. Some people are just awkward, it's obvious her heart was in the right place. It's hard to process situations like that and respond correctly though. I can't believe this got a reddit post.
Did @mbtyugioh make a anime reference