EPIC RAP BATTLES OF HISTORY - Episode 7 (2/23/24)

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  • Опубликовано: 31 дек 2024

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  • @VaneHartless473
    @VaneHartless473 10 месяцев назад +83

    I was waiting for the revelation that Miguel got the event shutdown so no one sees him get schooled in a rap battle in his native language.

    • @melleen629
      @melleen629 10 месяцев назад +3

      he was trying to avoid the canon event

  • @RockmanX47
    @RockmanX47 10 месяцев назад +64

    Joseph thinks he can take on the LVK fanbase but little does he realize what it means to be the luckiest bastards ever and will simply outperform him by sheer luck.

    • @MaiaNetliss
      @MaiaNetliss 10 месяцев назад +9

      me when im in a coin flipping competition and my opponent is a LVK sub

  • @Omniphenom
    @Omniphenom 10 месяцев назад +34

    The more I hear unscripted Joseph the more and more confused I get that a cinnamon roll of a woman like Jillian saw a law student doing orange justice and spitting about yoinking that sploinky sloppy toppy silly style and went that the guy, he's him.
    And she was right lol

    • @KyunaCookies
      @KyunaCookies 10 месяцев назад +4

      Hes just a goofy lil guy

    • @cashclam1126
      @cashclam1126 10 месяцев назад +2

      She let him hit cause he goofy dawg

    • @зеленасалата
      @зеленасалата 8 месяцев назад +5

      Fun fact, Joseph has actually said he is actually the normal one in their relationship

    • @clayxros576
      @clayxros576 4 месяца назад +1

      If you tune in to enough of his streams, it becomes very clear Jillian is as much (if not more) a theater kid than Joseph. She is absolutely not an innocent cinnamon roll, and is just more reserved about it in front of a camera.

  • @raishijtenobles3103
    @raishijtenobles3103 10 месяцев назад +37

    "Slonking his shit silly style"💀💀💀

    • @john1691
      @john1691 10 месяцев назад +4

      Badly need this rn

  • @TheWanderingLPer
    @TheWanderingLPer 2 месяца назад +4

    The mom in that last post got me really heated, especially since I am also a trans woman and I'm just thinking of how belittled and disrespected I would feel if my own mom did something like this.
    One part that really pissed me off was her being like "its my body and i can make decisions about it, just like she can make decisions about hers" as if implying that this stupid tattoo WHICH IS CAUSING YOUR DAUGHTER DISTRESS is in any way the same scale as the daughter's entire identity and struggles with gender dysphoria.

  • @AkhierDragonheart
    @AkhierDragonheart 10 месяцев назад +38

    Do Not Get Name Tattoos! I will make exceptions for those with loved ones that have passed away, maybe. It will be case by case.

    • @TheKartana
      @TheKartana Месяц назад +1

      If you're going to get a name tattoo, it should be someone who you know will never have a falling with you or change their name.
      So your options are: A deceased loved one, your own name, or your pet's name.

  • @sstarfury4068
    @sstarfury4068 10 месяцев назад +8

    In my senior year of high school, my government and economics teacher made every student write and perform a song talking about some aspect of American history. He made it worth so many points that even if you added up the points from every other assignment in the class for the whole year you would never be able to pass if you didn't do the rap assignment. I think my hating this man is Justified.

  • @AlexG0080
    @AlexG0080 10 месяцев назад +10

    We NEED to replace this Spanish Class with the Ohio Rizzlers vs. the Baltimore Chuggalugins NOW. Someone find Kai Cenat and get him to W Gyat this teacher out of nowhere PLEASE.

  • @OFranzy
    @OFranzy 10 месяцев назад +26

    will of the councel uploads are legitimately the best part of my day

  • @Nozo1234
    @Nozo1234 10 месяцев назад +18

    40:10 as both a kirby fan and a yugioh fan, Kirby and the Amazing Dream Mirror is a banger joke

  • @passtheyaoi
    @passtheyaoi 10 месяцев назад +63

    "every time my daughter sees this tatoo she's visibly distraught"
    DOES THAT NOT MAKE YOU FEEL ANYTHING FOR YOUR DAUGHTER??????
    does that not compel you

    • @queenautumnween2796
      @queenautumnween2796 10 месяцев назад +13

      That's what I'm saying! This makes me think that they don't support their daughter fully. Like that name shouldn't be important anymore and what should be important is making your daughter feel supported and happy. If getting the tattoo covered up will help your daughter feel better and not uncomfortable around you, then get the tattoo covered up. That discomfort isn't going to change.

  • @RaishIArcadia
    @RaishIArcadia 10 месяцев назад +12

    Having Danny sing Gasolina is not something I knew I wanted until today, can we please get that as a 10k subs special

  • @chandrareborn943
    @chandrareborn943 10 месяцев назад +16

    Amazing episode as always. The third one really hit home for me because I had a similar issue with my Dad after coming out as trans. I had to have multiple small fights with him to do things like change my name on his phone or change his tattoo that had my initials on it. He accepted eventually and did change them, but it made me feel awful every time I saw it.

  • @queenautumnween2796
    @queenautumnween2796 10 месяцев назад +27

    I really appreciate how serious yall were on the deadname story. As a trans woman myself, its tough having to see your dead name and know that your dead name exists. To then see that name on your mom's neck all the time is a constant reminder of an identity you dont want to associate with. To ask for it to be removed or covered up is completely valid and, at least with covering it up, isnt really that difficult to do. They were 100% right about the "as long as" ick. Whenever theres anything after "i support you" like a "but" or " as long as", then its not full, unconditional support. 10/10 response to this post and 10/10 roast of the people in the comments defending this mother.

  • @GogetaEiyuuYamcha
    @GogetaEiyuuYamcha 10 месяцев назад +4

    the thing that pisses me off about the last story is how common it is for people to go the "i respect your choices with your body, you respect mine" as if something as insignificant as a tattoo is equivalent to your identity. it shows how little they respect trans people

  • @arkadarkartist
    @arkadarkartist 10 месяцев назад +7

    A banger. Suspense, drama, human suffering, and tactical drop rap battle. It had it all

    • @cedricwong0
      @cedricwong0 10 месяцев назад

      Disney should buy the rights to this reddit post

  • @sterlingholben7990
    @sterlingholben7990 10 месяцев назад +7

    I made the mistake of listening to the first section while eating breakfast. Not one of my smartest ideas.

  • @Patziken
    @Patziken 10 месяцев назад +6

    I know y'all dont read these or do the editing on it but the audio levels NEED TO BE RAISED! Accidentally hit the next video button and got a standard MBT video and it was like 10 decibels louder. I didnt realize my volume was turned way up while listening to this and it was still on the quiet end

  • @LeykRoss
    @LeykRoss 10 месяцев назад +9

    Think this is the only video Ive watched today where Ive been forced to tweak my audio settings just to get it to an understandable level of loudness

  • @amycatass
    @amycatass 10 месяцев назад +5

    Joseph……… Eighty-one Jillians

  • @lucaslockie6079
    @lucaslockie6079 10 месяцев назад +9

    The first 2 stories are both about not spitting tbh

  • @bmorbus
    @bmorbus 10 месяцев назад +3

    I was waiting for it all day, got afraid it was coun-celled

  • @babyrath8621
    @babyrath8621 10 месяцев назад +4

    Joseph raises a good point in the rap battle one in that the kid could have just used the Community Spanish rap and smoked his ass.

  • @iezpzi3448
    @iezpzi3448 10 месяцев назад +3

    I absolutely adore this podcast and I can't wait to hear more of it! However, I'd love to hear from more posts that aren't an immediate asshole or not. Perhaps I like to hear when the group has to talk each other through it or try to debate each other on their opinions. I think the funny ones are awesome as well, but maybe I'm just a sucker at listening to second opinions. No matter what I'll enjoy the podcast tho

  • @melleen629
    @melleen629 10 месяцев назад +2

    im gonna say it
    the mom thinks the tattoo is more permanent than the transition. not getting it removed cos u are worried they will stop doing it one day

  • @esoteric7990
    @esoteric7990 10 месяцев назад +6

    The aspect ratio is messed up for me on these podcast episodes on desktop (I checked the previous upload as well)
    The buttons to full screen, settings, etc in normal view on the right are cutoff and I have to full screen the video (f shortcut/double click) to change my preferred watch speed
    Consider fixing that for future uploads?

    • @zeromaniac5210
      @zeromaniac5210 10 месяцев назад +2

      yeah, i checked and it is the same for me.

    • @esoteric7990
      @esoteric7990 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@zeromaniac5210 I usually listen to this on mobile so I hadn't noticed on prior uploads

    • @GMWizard
      @GMWizard 10 месяцев назад +2

      that's a youtube issue, not a WOTC issue. It's currently happening with all videos that aren't 16:9 and we've just gotta wait for the fix to come out

    • @esoteric7990
      @esoteric7990 10 месяцев назад

      @@GMWizard So just upload in 16:9

    • @crowcrow7040
      @crowcrow7040 10 месяцев назад

      It just sounds so who cares about the aspect ratio

  • @tinfoilslacks3750
    @tinfoilslacks3750 10 месяцев назад +6

    I disagree Joseph, we have changed significantly since 2001 in several negative ways and I'm glad we're returning to the early 00s.

  • @quarkish8767
    @quarkish8767 10 месяцев назад +11

    Your worst opening segment so far but the episode itself was a massive banger.
    As a trans woman who has had to remove a half of her family, the way you treated the third post really mattered to me thank you.

  • @tbaggins5349
    @tbaggins5349 10 месяцев назад +7

    Holy shit these were all PHENOMENAL to hear yall discuss. Also to that 2nd story is it just like a universal experience for us in the US that we all had a fucking bomb threat at school to get out of something that some kid didnt wanna do. Holy shit we are so cooked as a country lmao.

    • @__N8
      @__N8 10 месяцев назад

      Yeah, my freshman year, we had three. This was also in CT like 2 years after Sandy Hook so the district took these things super serious.
      I remember one being called in the middle of the day, so we were pulled out of the school. It was frezzing outside, so after an hour, they had us split up and wait in the gymnasiums of a couple schools nearby.

  • @Glitterblossom
    @Glitterblossom 10 месяцев назад +7

    Every time you say, “Becky on the ones and twos,” I wonder if Rebecca’s insulted by being implicitly called a DJ

  • @BigSquashy2291
    @BigSquashy2291 2 месяца назад

    3:55 Tony Hinchcliffe definitely must've heard this in advance 😂

  • @codycarney2311
    @codycarney2311 10 месяцев назад +3

    Thanks for the late birthday gift!!

  • @polabur7
    @polabur7 10 месяцев назад +5

    They tryna push us over to spotify lol

  • @TheFourthBlackReaper
    @TheFourthBlackReaper 10 месяцев назад +2

    The boys are back! Hell yeah!

  • @danieltrinh5079
    @danieltrinh5079 10 месяцев назад +3

    Week 7 without a George Santos guest appearance

  • @aidancossin1524
    @aidancossin1524 10 месяцев назад

    Have yall considered changing the blue will of the councel still image to the really cool one of you all sitting on a couch? It'd be a lot easier to look at

  • @averysaintrelmaux4422
    @averysaintrelmaux4422 10 месяцев назад +2

    Honestly really big point that I feel got missed on the third post is how people would consider it if this was a case of an ex's name tattoo'd on you. Your new partner asking you to get rid of it is exactly the same thing here. Personally I understand all too well how much parents can either cling to a deadname bc they associate memories with that, or just not understand how much the difference means, but outright refusing to come to any resolution about it feels lazy and belittling. Trust reddit to be how they are though.

  • @hdlepre859
    @hdlepre859 10 месяцев назад +2

    I'm mid listening they read the second post title, and that is just the plot of a Glee episode. How Glee can still haunt our schools today?

  • @evertime123
    @evertime123 10 месяцев назад

    I put these on while shopping and i was not prepared for that first story while perusing prices

  • @TheWritersMind
    @TheWritersMind 10 месяцев назад +5

    Heads up, I feel like the upload schedule of this series is a problem, which is why I don’t think we are getting the amount of views that I think we should on this podcast series. If you could do anything about the schedule of the podcast, I would suggest changing it to a more reasonable time frame for North America, where most of MBT’s audience is. It’s not that I won’t come back to watch it, but I know that for a lot of people, they will only watch it if they see it in their sub box. So I feel like that is partially why the numbers aren’t doing so good.

    • @RexOedipus.
      @RexOedipus. 10 месяцев назад +8

      this was uploaded 6pm. It just wasn't public until like 12am lmao

  • @anemodude9544
    @anemodude9544 10 месяцев назад

    posted at 11:30; well i guess ill get 1 hour less of sleep tonight.

  • @danielgulyas02
    @danielgulyas02 10 месяцев назад

    Absolutely correct and based takes here. Great stuff y’all.

  • @numimio
    @numimio 6 месяцев назад +1

    I think that the idea of /forcing/ a kid into doing a rap battle is just dumb.

  • @SM-vu6oq
    @SM-vu6oq 10 месяцев назад

    The Audio mixing for this is always really bad... either speak louder or get a better audio mixer

  • @sangdrako
    @sangdrako 10 месяцев назад

    No pueden hablar ingles was not something I expected to hear from Danny. Great

  • @J0non0
    @J0non0 10 месяцев назад +2

    i will add with the second one, assuming its real (cause its written like its not), bullying has changed with the introduction of social media and widespread 24/7 access to a camera. i've been out of school for a while but i can say that as someone who has cousins still in school, bullying has become so much more relentless. kids are always chasing clout and they're going to go with the more popular opinion which is almost always whoever gets a post in first which is usually the bully, so all it takes is one clip to get uploaded to tiktok or something and then you're the butt end of a joke for the entire school and potentially a bunch of randos online as well so then you're getting harassed in person and online, with essentially no safe space. so again, assuming its real, then this kid's aversion to going is completely justified.
    and im not trans so i feel like i dont have as much authority to talk about the third one but i just want to comment on their point of it being their body their choice. people absolutely should have full autonomy over their own bodies and i feel that that point is understandable BUT, if something you're doing, even if it is "correct", is hurting someone, especially someone you supposedly LOVE, then that "correct" thing is no longer okay

  • @minabasejderha5972
    @minabasejderha5972 10 месяцев назад +1

    Gonna briefly pop in and say, there are genuine problems with recycling. That's why there were three Rs.
    Genuinely, with plastics, it is a scam from propaganda of petroleum companies. Glass is... fine, but still not that effective. Metals absolutely should be recycled.
    So you should, in general.
    REDUCE the plastic you use, REUSE the glass you buy, and RECYCLE the metal you have left.

  • @grodon909
    @grodon909 10 месяцев назад +3

    I liked public speaking in high school, but I feel like I would have done some malicious compliance stuff. Like, bring a bunch of wrapping paper and when I come on stage just sit down and start wrapping.

  • @spacesmorgy6820
    @spacesmorgy6820 10 месяцев назад +2

    WILL OF THE peaaaK

    • @goosethemaster3668
      @goosethemaster3668 10 месяцев назад

      Makes me think that this podcast was named after Will of the Salamangreat.

  • @double2helix
    @double2helix 10 месяцев назад +3

    Why even discuss the rap battle?
    It's so obviously a fake story that it's not even interesting

  • @wii3564
    @wii3564 9 месяцев назад

    I actually have done a rap for a Spanish class before lmao I even posted it on this channel and is absolutely terrible but very funny

  • @cleanbishop7874
    @cleanbishop7874 10 месяцев назад +5

    3 cis men talking about trans people... it's just so TYPICAL! (you guys are great and I think you were right on this one)

    • @queenautumnween2796
      @queenautumnween2796 10 месяцев назад +3

      It was a rare case where 3 cis men talked about trans people and got it right lol. It probably helps that both Danny and Joseph have a large trans audience and that dire, a trans woman, is also one of his editors.

  • @PiePie453
    @PiePie453 10 месяцев назад +4

    God, Peeps, your pop culture man. Please brush up.

  • @ahmes004
    @ahmes004 10 месяцев назад

    Councel rigging elections be like
    Edit somehow I called MBT saying 9/11 before he said it...I love watching these 3

  • @Aerese1
    @Aerese1 10 месяцев назад

    Just get an 3D2Y style tattoo and cross it out

  • @RiderOmega
    @RiderOmega 10 месяцев назад

    You mostly get to the right points on the kid in the rap battle, but I have a note to make about your mention of talking to the kid's school. The School is not necessarily on your kid's side. You do not say your kid made themself throw up, you say they threw up. Attendance is mandatory unless your kid is actually sick, so you need your kid's school to believe they are. Lots of teachers do indeed just suck and not only does this spanish teacher suck the whole administration let them put on show that the whole school would watch. That had to see too many eyes for you to blindly trust the school to shut down the show cause your kid is understandably anxious. You gotta learn to use that exonerative voice that american and european journalists invented. Also whoever or whatever got school cancelled is based.

  • @najawin8348
    @najawin8348 10 месяцев назад +1

    1:08:12 (For most plastics, kinda irrelevant, yeah.)

  • @double2helix
    @double2helix 10 месяцев назад +2

    To me it seems the mother is from story three is inconvenienced by by the entirety of her daughters transition, but is willing to put up with it.
    Then she is asked to not only accept the transition but also to get her tattoo removed at which point she feels her daughter is overreaching.
    It's the only way I can make sense of her bizzare stance, either that or it's a fake story as these posts so often are.

    • @queenautumnween2796
      @queenautumnween2796 10 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah honestly the mother seems to not being the most supportive, especially with the red flag of saying, "I am supportive of her transition AS LONG AS her grades aren't affected" like what are you gonna do, stop her from transitioning? The mother now has to deal with an inconvenience of her daughter feeling uncomfortable with a tattoo and wants it to be covered up. From what I gathered from the post she doesn't want the tattoo removed/covered up because of the principle of it. Like she thinks it's "to show her loyalty to her as an ally"!!?!?!?!! Kinda shows her true colors

  • @sipcee
    @sipcee 10 месяцев назад

    that rap battle one is maybe the literal fakest story i have ever heard on AITA and thats a fucking feat

  • @ashdaniels2332
    @ashdaniels2332 10 месяцев назад +2

    Oh I have almost the same situation as the tattoo one. My dad has my dead name and my brother name as the read one way, read the other name upside down kinda thing. It's too stylized to even really tell the names and unlikely to be able to cover it up. Could be a reason for needing a removal not a cover up.
    Idk if anyone's an asshole but it's weird that the mom doesn't want to. Almost to spite the kids? Feels like a 1/10 on how severe it is but I feel like I need more context tbh

  • @PunLlarena
    @PunLlarena 10 месяцев назад +3

    🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
    00:00 *🗣️ Introduction and banter*
    - Three hosts discussing Valentine's Day and bantering about various topics.
    - Mention of Jonathan Stewart's return and the cultural impact of comedians like John Stewart and John Oliver.
    04:45 *🎙️ John Stewart's Return*
    - Discussion on John Stewart's return and the positive reception.
    - Comparison to Stephen Colbert's prime and the role of mainstream political comedy.
    - Reflection on the cultural impact and uniqueness of John Stewart's comedic style.
    09:01 *🍆 Relationship Dilemma*
    - Reading a post about a woman's boyfriend shaming her for enjoying oral sex.
    - Analysis of the boyfriend's reaction and the absurdity of his expectations.
    - Consideration of the possibility of the boyfriend having negative experiences shaping his perspective.
    16:42 *🚩 Relationship Fallout*
    - Response to the woman's dilemma and consensus that the relationship is problematic.
    - Emphasis on the disrespectful use of language by the boyfriend.
    - Humorous references to historical figures and societal expectations around sexual preferences.
    19:57 *🤔 Partner's Insult Impact*
    - Partner's use of derogatory language can ruin the chance for a meaningful discussion.
    - Negative impact on the relationship when offensive words are used.
    - Importance of managing negative experiences and discussing issues openly.
    21:06 *🚫 Using Past Trauma as a Weapon*
    - Acknowledging negative impacts of past trauma on an individual.
    - Emphasizing the responsibility to manage trauma and not use it to hurt others.
    - Highlighting the harm caused when past experiences are weaponized in relationships.
    21:59 *✅ Empowerment and Decision-Making*
    - Recognition of the supportive community in helping the person reevaluate the situation.
    - Decision to break off the relationship for self-worth and mental well-being.
    - The importance of seeking advice and considering different perspectives.
    23:24 *😄 Humorous Rap Battle Dilemma*
    - Hilarious situation presented: Faking sickness to avoid a rap battle in Spanish class.
    - Discussion about the school's multicultural week and rap battle assignment.
    - The comedic aspect of the post, comparing it to a Disney plot.
    29:45 *🤨 Parental Response to Faking Sickness*
    - Description of the kid's struggle with the rap battle situation.
    - The parent's dismissive attitude towards the child faking sickness.
    - The potential impact of unsupportive parenting on the child's well-being.
    38:26 *🏫 Parenting and School Issues*
    - Parenting challenges when a child doesn't want to go to school.
    - Importance of listening to your child's concerns and experiences.
    - Discussion on handling potential bullying situations.
    39:22 *🎤 Mandatory School Rap Battle*
    - Debate on the necessity of a mandatory rap battle in school.
    - Speculation on the impact of such an event on students.
    - Humorous take on how students might react to the rap battle.
    40:46 *🚨 Bomb Threat Speculation*
    - Discussion on the cancellation of all schools in the district.
    - Speculation and humor regarding a potential bomb threat to avoid the rap battle.
    - Personal anecdotes about bomb threats during the hosts' school experiences.
    45:19 *💔 Tattoo Dilemma in Trans Parenting*
    - A mother's reluctance to remove or cover up a tattoo with her child's dead name.
    - Lack of empathy in understanding the significance of the tattoo to her trans daughter.
    - Suggestions for alternative solutions such as covering the tattoo with a meaningful design.
    57:09 *🤷‍♂️ Mother refuses to change tattoo for transgender daughter*
    - Mother adamant about keeping a tattoo despite daughter's distress.
    - Discussion on the permanence of tattoos and refusal to adapt with the daughter's transition.
    - Reddit comments reflecting a divided opinion on body autonomy versus empathy for the daughter.
    59:54 *😠 Frustration with lack of empathy and support for the transgender experience*
    - Expressing frustration at the lack of empathy towards the transgender experience.
    - Criticism of the unwillingness to adapt or understand the daughter's transition.
    - Highlighting the disconnect between verbal support and actual actions.
    01:00:22 *🤔 Importance of adapting to change and empathy in parenting*
    - Emphasis on the significance of adapting to change, especially in the context of parenting.
    - Connecting the refusal to change a tattoo with a lack of empathy for the daughter's transition.
    - Reflecting on the broader issue of empathy in society and the challenges faced by transgender individuals.
    01:05:58 *👩‍⚖️ The panel's verdict on the situation*
    - The panel collectively considers the mother's actions as unsupportive.
    - Acknowledgment of nuances but an overall agreement on the lack of empathy displayed.
    - Encouraging self-reflection and a commitment to positive change in response to personal challenges.
    Made with HARPA AI

  • @LordParaDax
    @LordParaDax 10 месяцев назад

    Late night councel let’s go

  • @EasyCakeMuffin
    @EasyCakeMuffin 10 месяцев назад +1

    Concel

  • @ducky36F
    @ducky36F 10 месяцев назад +2

    Misusing the “my body my choice” tag line is red flag for me.

  • @1999Metalman
    @1999Metalman 10 месяцев назад

    6 min ago ltes gooo!

  • @MrZacdeath
    @MrZacdeath 10 месяцев назад +1

    Love the show but you guys were INSANE on the last one. It is CRAZY that you guys suggested any of the things that you did.

  • @raze667
    @raze667 10 месяцев назад

    I don't know. The first being unanimously blasted feels bad to me. Being open and honest about your partner about any sex act they clearly enjoy is important. If it's a problem for the guy and he makes that clear this is a GOOD THING. Like imagine they are being intimate and both enjoying this and she wants to finish that way. And he doesn't. Do you just grin and bear it as the guy because to say otherwise is judgmental and prudish? It could grow to be a major problem. I 100% don't think the guy meant his admission as a punch. Communication is good.

    • @Celestia282
      @Celestia282 10 месяцев назад +1

      There's a difference between having an honest discussion with your girlfriend about icks in the bedroom and calling her a slut because she's enjoying herself.

  • @RayneDeoman
    @RayneDeoman 10 месяцев назад +1

    It would be insane if she had to cover the tattoo and then her daughter detransitions. Imagine being in that position lmao

  • @kaiser371
    @kaiser371 10 месяцев назад

    It's weird seeing this on RUclips a day after hearing it on Spotify. I feel for the OP in the 2nd one as I had similar shit happen to me way too much in public schools. On the last one, it's quite a hard one to wide with, but I'll stand firmly with the mother. Coming out as trans is probably the hardest thing for someone to do, and someone who would come put as trans need to come to grips that this is not universally accepted. If your mom still loves you and says she supports you, you should be lucky that it's gone that well at least, because a lot of trans people don't even get that as sad as that is. The wording of the post may have come off bad, but like one of you said, there's way more factors we don't know. Maybe the mother isn't ready to change the tattoo yet. Maybe she needs more time to process what this means to her because it's a huge lifestyle choice that affects not only her (trans) daughter, but the rest if her family too. It's a lot to deal with. I hope that issue gets resolved, but that's one I'd disagree with you guys with

    • @queenautumnween2796
      @queenautumnween2796 10 месяцев назад +4

      I'm sorry but how exactly does it effect the mom and the rest of the family? Are they also changing their identity when they come out too? The family honestly doesn't matter. The whole, "well they have to mourn the past you that is now gone" is so dumb honestly. If there's hesitation about changing her tattoo, then it can feel as if your mom isn't fully supportive of you. This is clearly causing her daughter extreme discomfort if her daughter is avoiding her. As a trans woman, i completely empathize with the daughter here and I honestly don't care about "the parents side of it". Why does she have to keep a tattoo with her daughter's deadname? That name doesn't matter anymore, that name now has a negative association, so it honestly should be changed not only for the daughter but also just in general, it's awkward to have to explain that tattoo to people who ask about it.

  • @Gigacorn
    @Gigacorn 10 месяцев назад

    first

  • @VinegarPotato
    @VinegarPotato 10 месяцев назад +4

    They didn't even go into anti-tattoo or body mods. Im sorry- when does a parent lose power over body modifications? the parents control the kids body mods, it should not be the other way around. like HUH, have these kids never been exposed to body mods of other kids? earrings or other kids having tattoos should show something to the transitioned kid. That it is very entitled to believe that you have that control over body mods--I know it goes the other way often where kids get body mods without parents permission, so is the kid going to decide anyone else they know who has a body mod that is not liked by everyone in their family should do the same?
    Transition is mental, maybe physical, I don't think it should ever require a physical change in another person unless it is a transplant surgery. How could that (physical change in another person) ever be argued in defense of transitioning being the correct choice for this kid (which I am not disputing). It should be enough to transition. to transition shouldn't require to personally transition and change another persons body
    Is transitioning yourself more with body mods or changing someone else physically more important to transitioning yourself??? in terms of opportunity cost, also does the other kid get cash money? or an equivalent extra tattoo????
    how could you 3 be so wrong on this, maybe because you don't have kids.
    New name & pronoun are the only things transitioning should get you ~immediately

    • @AkhierDragonheart
      @AkhierDragonheart 10 месяцев назад +9

      So one of your parents has tattood on their neck "VinegarPotato was a mistake". They keep telling you they don't actually feel that way, but there it is, on their neck. Assume they have the money just lying around where they could get it covered or even removed. They just don't. They don't even cover it up with a band-aid or some such when around, they just have it out and easily read by others.
      Edit in Response: You are being silly. I am not arguing that the parent has to get the tattoo changed in any way. I am arguing that to that child right now, the tattoo says the equivalent of "Child is a mistake". Sure, it didn't say that before, but that's what it says now. If the parent doesn't want to change the tattoo, then the consequences of such are on them. It is like how freedom of speech means you can say what you want, but you still get to suffer the consequences of it.

    • @VinegarPotato
      @VinegarPotato 10 месяцев назад +1

      I don't think the hypothetical fits too well because it only becomes "was a mistake" after the name change.
      Ok I get what you are saying, that would not feel good.
      I still do not believe in the physical change in another person ~*rights/wants.
      The money even if just lying around, it is not dedicated just to transkidA. --> kidB gets equal money or tattoo change
      But from here how can you argue that Being trans means sibling gets money or gets a change on tattoo skin? that just fundamentally is not a part of being trans
      here kidB's name is also "kidB was a mistake" so now this becomes not a trans issue but an issue with wearing 2 someones names on your body
      there can be no $ cost of acceptance/recognition of a child unless it is equal between siblings or rivalry and problems will happen if that $ cost is ever revealed
      @@AkhierDragonheart

    • @DreamManmns
      @DreamManmns 10 месяцев назад +6

      The entire point of the tattoo of your child's name is to show how much you love them and how important they are to you. If that tattoo is actively causing the person it is dedicated to to feel like shit then that is actively going against the point of the tattoo in the first place. Even if you don't want to get the removal you can always get a cover-up or just physically cover it. If you aren't willing to update that or accommodate them it just spits on the original intent of the tattoo.

    • @VinegarPotato
      @VinegarPotato 10 месяцев назад

      @DreamManmns the kid actively decided to make it a problem, why should a parent consider that thought in fairness to the other kid
      Why does the trans kid's name earn extra meaning over the other kid's name.
      Reguardless of if it "spits in the face of the original I intent" should one have to live every day dealing with ~*"consequences" of the tattoo, hiding it etc, why should we want a society that supports that, it is fundamentally anti tattoo in the first place if EXCESSIVE social forces are put on people with a tattoo of names that are no longer relavant.
      If one truly let go of their old name they would not care anymore, why is the parent not allowed to have the name of another person on their skin
      The kid is putting too much meaning into the tattoo AND THE OLD NAME, unless one wants to absolutely move away and fully leave the past life behind the old name will still be a part of your life, and it is not a valid expectation for it to die instantly just as any Internet username and brand/company name do not. It would have been extra fitting if the other comment used my old yt username instead of modern one.
      The only way to let it die is stop talking about it, but you don't deserve to change someone's body or change the way they show their skin because of your insecurities, its just a name, and was the name the kid was called for a substantial amount of time.

    • @sophennec4120
      @sophennec4120 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@VinegarPotato
      I love giving people the benefit of the doubt so I will make an effort to try and recontexualize why people disagree with your take. I will try and do it with this hypothetical:
      - I come out as gay
      - I have a homephobic friend
      - I say "Hey could you please stop being homophobic? It's putting a strain on our relationship."
      - They say "I love you but I will not put in the effort to change how/what I talk about"
      - You come in and go "Hell Yeah! Free Speech! No one has the right to tell you want you can and can't say!"
      do you see why that would make people cross with you?
      Also, as an aside that is assuming a lot about you as a person, your takes on transition read like "Ally who has never talked to a trans person before". It reads like you know trans people transition but not why they do it.

  • @LordParaDax
    @LordParaDax 10 месяцев назад

    Rare councel L. Look forward to watching next weeks.

    • @queenautumnween2796
      @queenautumnween2796 10 месяцев назад +2

      What's the L?

    • @kindredclawthorne
      @kindredclawthorne 10 месяцев назад +5

      found the transphobe or puritan

    • @TheJeSTeR7530
      @TheJeSTeR7530 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@kindredclawthorne Maybe both ?

    • @septosol
      @septosol 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@kindredclawthorne or miguel lmao

    • @john1691
      @john1691 10 месяцев назад

      We found Miguel