Back Pain - When It Is Not From Your Back
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- In this follow up video on back pain, the surgeons discuss back pain that is not actually caused by your back. This phenomenon is known as referred pain. There are several clinical problems that can cause referred pain to your back.
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I love your videos. If someone thinks you talk to fast, they can "rewind" and watch it again!!! Doing a great job.
Thank you so much Eila. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Early 2015 I developed near immobilizing back pain. Had useless insurance that still cost $$$. 2018 a young chiropractor informed me I was in desperate need of total hip replacement surgery. Told me he could not help me. Man turned away $$$ potential business. And so many bad mouth chiropractors. Hip replacement end July 2019 and every week thereafter both back, hip, and ankle pain went away. Back pain was the worst.
Thanks for all u share. Well appreciated.
Glad it all worked out T. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Nice guys...I like these docs!!
Why thank you John. Thanks for watching and subscribing
You reminded me of an incident while I was a resident. The unit secretary on the ICU asked me a "BTW" after calling me at 3 am for a patient issue. Within 15 minutes I had her in the ER for her ectopic pregnancy. She had been seen 2 or 3 times in the past few days. The docs did not ask the questions I did.
The ectopic ruptured shortly after getting her setup in the ER. Ultrasound had confirmed the diagnosis. Since we were in a large teaching hospital there were surgeons on call. Since I had a reputation for "finding zebras", people always responded instead of equivocation. I never claimed to save lives. I did prolong many!
Very nice JaY! Thanks for watching and subscribing
My back pain had nearly gone away and then I saw this video and now I've got all of the above. It's back again. I think the real cause is old age and cold NZ winter winds on the shortest day of the year.
You’re not wrong James. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Hey y'all that's a lot of info. The worst back pain ever that I Had was a pulmonary embolism in both lungs brought on from chemo side effects. The pain went away after 45 min then came back about 12 hours . I was home by myself when my wife got home she called the rescue squad . The ER DOC said I was very lucky to still be around. Then three months later Thought I Was having another one but turned out to be kidney stones . I don't want no more of those issues. Wishing you all a great week thanks doc's!!!!!!
Yikes Kubota. You are lucky. You have a good week too! Thanks for watching and subscribing
Great information and you both always explain everything in layman’s terms so everyone can understand. Happy Fathers Day Docs. Lov lov your videos. ❤️❤️❤️🤗🇨🇦
Yes Happy DHs' Day! Oops pardon my French!
Yay F1 finit and how some roar down the T-Can
or 20 when done, bye bye 👋!
Thanks so much Mandy! Thanks for watching and subscribing
Thanks for the refresher guys. Its been a hundred years since I took anatomy and physiology in college. Really my only recollection was; you got your right knee, you got your left knee and you got your wee knee.
Ha Brian. Nice. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Good afternoon and happy fathers day 😊 great informative video,that's a lot to think about 🤔 thankyou.All the very best from England 🇬🇧
Thanks Joyce. All the best of you in England and you can celebrate your US Open champion Matthew Fitzpatrick. He was a machine today. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Enjoy your informative videos. Wish you continued success. Nice scrub caps !!
Thanks James. They’re new! Thanks for watching and subscribing
I have to get cortisol injection every 3 months. Sitting or lying down for more than 15 minutes I can't walk I need to bend for awhile. My back is so
Sore it goes down all the way in my leg. My legs gets cold. Since I was in my 50s I wanted an operation which none of those doctors would listen to me an didn't not operate. Now they say I am too old for surgery. I am 74. I am very frustrated.
I love your messages. I am getting a knee replacement in the fall
Sorry to hear this Claudia. Best of luck in the fall. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Serious topics, but done with a sense of humour. I love your channel. Thank you Dr. Zalzal and Dr. Weening 👍
Glad you liked it Mike. Very welcome. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Thank you from the bottom of my back for the entire back series. Really hard to get answers regarding back pain
Very welcome Leila. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Happy Father’s Day to you both!! Love and have subscribed to your channel.
Why thank you Rhonda! Thanks for watching and subscribing
Once had something that caused excessive vomiting that lasted for weeks. It ended up sort of burning my esophagus which presented as the worst back pain ever. A round of Prilosec cleared it up. Thanks for all your informative videos.
Glad to hear you are ok Chris. Very welcome. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Oh how I appreciate y’all!!
Yep you can’t please everybody. 🤦🏻♀️
My pastor says he is gonna talk fast
So we need to listen fast. 😂🤣😂
Some people have valuable info to share with others and have valuable time to go and do to help in other areas!!!
God bless you both 🙏❤️❤️
Thanks so much Jesus Saves. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Happy Father’s Day to you both! Thankfully I don’t have back problem pain! Great video!😊
Thanks Alida. Glad your back is ok! Thanks for watching and subscribing
Happy Father’s Day to both of you
Thanks so much willard. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Very enlightening. TY. I had gallstones occluding my bile ducts & felt the pain right in the middle of my back.
It can happen suzanne. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Great information! Amazing how many things no related to our backs cause back pain! It's a wonder our backs don't hurt all the time given anything can cause that kind of pain. Makes sense that older folks have back pain pretty much all the time. Between bad issues and it hurting from mechanical issues older folks (me included) feel it all the time. If I were to have back pain for a long time I would have just chalked it up to me tweaking my back---after these two videos I will not pay more attention to time frame and my activities to see if it makes sense it has been hurting for so long.
Also really enjoy the way you present the information---it's done in a way laymen can understand it be but done so it feels like you are talking down to us.
If I missed it, plese direct me to the right video(s), but could you do a video on the various tools you use in your surgeries. Having had both hips replaced as well as both shoulders, it is amazing what you use in the process. The hammers, drills, screwdrivers, and saws. It would be interesting to see them.
Hi Gregg. We don’t really have a video about the tools but that’s a great idea! Thanks for watching and subscribing
Hi docs Happy Fathes day hope it was a great one. I'm actually waiting for a surgery date now to fix the stenosis in my lower back and i also have bulging disc and I can only pray my surgeon can relieve my pain as it's so bad now I cant stand for longer than 15 minutes or do any heavy lifting . I love your new scrub caps and that's my favorite color green. Love you both and your great videos and you make them fun to watch. Hugs Maria from upton Massachusetts USA ❤❤
So sorry to hear this Maria. Best of luck with your surgery. Glad you like the new hats! Thanks for watching and subscribing
I told my PCP that I have heartburn also upper back pain. I said a chiropractor used to crack that part he grumbled. The back isn't the cause so grumbling was warranted.
That’s funny Richard. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Happy Father's Day to the both of you. My back pain has been in my thoracic area for along time with the bulging disk and the lower pelvic area too. Just have to watch what I do to it. Loved the video Doctors
Thanks so much Marcia. Yes modifying your activity helps for sure. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Love the information you two relay to us, helpful and thought provoking.
My problem is a damaged disc at L1 and a 9mm kidney stone on one side and 12mm on the other. They say nothing they can do for the disc, and leave the stones alone unless they cause a major problem. So when it hurts across that area, it takes a while to figure out which it is.
When those kidney start to move you will know about it. Get ready for real pain.
@@jamesparlane9289 Thanks, been there numerous times thru the years
For sure John that makes it more complicated. Best of luck. Thanks for watching and subscribing
I had L2 L3, in 2018, the worse is the Carthrator.
Thanks!
Very welcome riverbender. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Very informative, I'll try and make the short, I just turned 49 so a couple years ago, I went to my physician and told him my legs are hurting!! So for a MRI on my back, well here I'm arguing telling them it's my legs, like I said long story short, I have herniated discs 🤔 but recently my right leg has been hurting so bad that I'm crying, not only that my legs are swollen, and I see some bruising which is really weird, geez I think I'm too young for all this!!
I love your content and I'm sure you're helping a lot of people 💓
Best of luck Teri. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@@TalkingWithDocs thanks
Great information as always.
Question and don't disallow, especially if it doesn't reduce with common remedies.
I stopped kidney failure by being a pest and unfortunately a friend is being treated for cancer after thinking just a herniated disc.
Be proactive for your health.
For sure Pj. That is a big part of why we do this channel. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Great so now we need a referral for back pain? My bud's tick bull's eye almost gone, half way through anti biotics and instructions for keeping his gut health healthy which he's very happy to adhere to!
Oh man Josee. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Happy Father's Day. Great Information. Can you talk about Sciatica and spinal bone degeneration on one of your presentations? i would love to hear what you have to say about it. Thanks so much.
We sure can Colleen. Working on getting a spine doc to join us. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Nice surgical hats!
Thanks Gay. They’re new! Thanks for watching and subscribing
Another great informative video! Nice to know other causes of back pain.
Happy Father's Day! Hope you got breakfast served in bed this morning! Father's Day was always a special day because my dad was such a special person. Hope you two are treated like Kings because you go beyond the father role in the helpful and kind things you do! ❣️
Thanks for sharing another great video!
Thanks so much Vickie. Thanks for watching and subscribing
I have suffered with lower back pain and pain under my shoulder blades on/off for years I put it down to working in health and social care sector for 37yrs now, thinking of taking early retirement next year 2023 as pain getting worse, sometimes my back just goes and I can not move and need help, I really don't want to end up totally ruining my health altogether, I have been referred to physiotherapist again but doesn't seem to help truthfully. Take Care. Gill 🇬🇧 xx
Hope things get better Gill and congrats on your retirement if that happens! Thanks for watching and subscribing
I did not realize these, but I’ve seen this happen to others…Great info docs….thank you 🩺
Very welcome Mary. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Yoga, stretching and balance exercises can help keep your back and core strong.
Agreed Kenz. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Wow, great info. Thank you!!!
Very welcome L. Thanks for watching and subscribing
My cousin died from prostate cancer after being treated for severe back pain for several years. He was being treated by a physician. He was a farmer and had done his share of lifting but I was always confused why they never checked for anything else
Like it, thanks for effort
Very welcome Emad. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Very true. Especially for women referred pain is a real issue; any cardiologist will agree lol! Thank you guys!
It certainly is Elizabeth. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Crikey! My back was ok until I watched this 😱
Great info, thanks.
Yes Mario planting the seed. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Great video as always. Would you please consider doing a video on the sacrum? I have searched your channel and haven't been able to find anything regarding the sacrum. More specifically, SI joint dysfunction. I have been having problems with that for quite some time now, approximately 5 years. there seems to be very little information on the subject and my orthopedic surgeon does not want to do the surgery to fix it with me being 45 years old. she stated the success rate is approximately 50%. That about half of her patients come out of it feeling much better, but the other half come out feeling worse. I can't find any good information on exercises that work well or other homeopathic remedies. I have literally tried everything I know to do. I have been told that opiate pain medication at this point is my only option. I am loathed to go that route, but I am beginning to get desperate enough that I'm actually considering it. I have tried cortisone injections but after three of them each which took her over 45 minutes to get into the joint because of the severe overlap, and the fact that they only provide relief for approximately 2 weeks she does not want to do any more of those. I am beginning to feel helpless, frustrated and the pain is literally beginning to wear on my mind in a very negative way. Any information you have would be very helpful. Thank you for your time and consideration and I apologize for the extremely long comment.
Hi Mominator7. We can certainly add it to the list and try to find a spine specialist to discuss this not so uncommon and frustrating condition. Best of luck. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@@TalkingWithDocs Thank you. I appreciate it so much. I am trying everything NOT to go the pain medication route as I loathe that option.
You guys are great. I enjoy your videos.
Glad to hear FJP. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Hey docs, can you do a video about prolotherapy? Specifically the dextrose solution designed to relieve pain and strengthen ligaments and tendons? If not, can you tell me your opinion about it for those kind of injuries?
Hi Darian. We can add it to the list for sure. The short answer is that the scientific evidence for its effectiveness is lacking at this point. Still lots of people do it and try it. Good luck. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Keep up the good work ‼️
Thanks so much Roxi. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Nice hats.
Glad you liked them James. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Question: Can pain in a foot be referred from spinal stenosis?
Yes Barry it could. The nerves that serve your foot start in your lower back. Thanks for watching and subscribing
I have cholecystitis. When my gall bladder gets badly inflamed my back hurts bad. Awaiting gall bladder removal surgery.
Good luck with your surgery JM. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@@TalkingWithDocs thank you so much for the well wishes. 😊
1st. HAPPY FATHER'S DAY🤣🤣
Thanks so much Derrick! And to you if you are a father. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Can assure you gallbladder issues can cause excruciating, 12/10 pain
Thanks for sharing ShunraCats. Thanks for watching and subscribing
New hats, cool! Pregnancy can cause back pain from the very beginning
For sure carmenbaby02. Glad you like the new hats! Thanks for watching and subscribing
Thanks Doc,s as one with back issues now I have more things to consider (only joking) no very informative, funny people telling you that you speak to fast the first time I came to America for a holiday everywhere we went people said we Aussies talk to fast we can't understand you,and oddly enough we noticed TV shows we watched home in Australia the same program on TV in California was the intro music was noticeably slower (mash law and order) to mention a few was , I just think Californians do things slower than the rest of us.so I don't think you talk to fast just normal like Australians .
Cheers Kym
Adelaide
Thank you so much Kym. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Great video. Had no idea there were so many possible causes of back pain...
Had a general question on X-Ray imaging. I had a right knee x-ray two years ago. And the report indicated "moderate" tri-compartmental joint space narrowing.
I repeated the X-Ray recently at the same lab. Report now indicates "mild"
joint space narrowing and only in just one of the three compartments (medial).
How is this possible? It is the same xray lab with same standing position x-ray but report was written by two different radiologists... I am guessing that in general, joint space can never improve from moderate to mild , correct? So one report must be wrong. In general, are knee X-Ray images widely open to intrepretation in terms of assigning levels of joint space narrowing?
Hi Raul. Yes matter of interpretation. Space does not get bigger typically with time. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Any chance you could decrease the volume on the intro? It is significantly louder than your mics, which means I need to fiddle with the audio each video. Thanks!
Hi MrVeinless. We can certainly look into it. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Very interesting- thank you for the information.
Very welcome Lynn. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Yikes non-back, back-pain is the worst! Too many chicken wings can’t possibly cause back pain….. thanks Doc’s! And please, don’t change the rate of speaking… haha 1.5x is perfect
Ok deal MmmCake. Thanks for watching and subscribing
OK you guys are scaring the crap out of me I liked you before this video lol
This is so freaky just for two days now I have a sudden onset of a back pain in my lower right quadrant kind of near the hip bone about 1 inch down from the top of it. It only radiates around that area if you have no fever it’s Sunday and no doctors are available. It does not hurt when I urinate I do not feel it radiating from my spine purely a deep ache continual no shooting pain just ache. Any possibilities on this because now I’m thinking it’s something serious?❓❓❓❓❓
I do intermittent fasting I eat pretty healthy I’m a flexitarian but I did have a we bit of gin the other day well maybe just a little bit more.
Hi Jennifer. Hard to say what the cause is. Most commonly muscular. If it persists see your doctor! And the gin. Very interesting. Is your partners name Tom? Thanks for watching and subscribing
@@TalkingWithDocs thank you I did end up going to the doctor it is a pulled muscle didn’t realize how painful that could be I’m not used to injuring myself. No my significant other is not Tom. Lol alternating ice with cold putting on an anti-inflammatory cream seems to be getting better. Lol yes we bit too much Gin.
OK you guys just totally redeemed yourself now thank you for your response. Guess I’m a bit of a worry wart. 😬💃🤗
Would the back pain location for all those be in one location?
No Gina. It could be anywhere. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Can you do a video on neck pain? Mine is there all the time but it is worst when riding my bicycle.
We can add it to the list for sure Vytenis. Thanks for watching and subscribing
You didn’t mention Costochondritis.
No but that could cause it for sure. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Hah! y’all are the best :-) So, how does an angry, pain-suffering patient locate a specialist who will actually find root-cause before giving up or relentlessly beat the “malingering” dead horse diagnostic path all while time continues to tick, fueling a manic patient due to prescribing wrong medications…. Haha, for a friend
Hi MmmCake. Word of mouth is probably best chance. Most people that have a good doctor want to share that info. Sorry you are getting the runaround. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@@TalkingWithDocs thanks brother. It’s all right I’m used to it this point. Just kind of over it. I guess these new doctors have to learn on someone… just wish it wasn’t me!! Take care keep up the great work!
Hello,can you guys do something on scoliosis please?
We can add it to the list Tayo. Thanks for watching and subscribing
What’s the difference between an aortic aneurysms and an aortic dissection? My daughter was born with Turner Syndrome and was born with structural heart issues (essentially partial veins if you want the simplified version) that were repaired at age 5. But she will always be at risk for aortic dissection. She’s 24 and does complain of back pain at times. Should I be concerned?
Hi Jennifer. Sorry to hear this. Short answer is back pain can be a symptom so an exam is reasonable and likely an ultrasound or CT to look at the aorta. So an aneurysm is a weak walled section of the artery that balloons out and depending on its size can rupture as it gets bigger. A dissection is when a small tear develops between the inner and middle layers of the artery wall and blood flows in there and can lead to a rupture. In either case if the aorta ruptures it is an emergency and is life threatening. Best of luck. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@@TalkingWithDocs thank you so much for your quick and helpful response. I will send this info to her. We’ve been told to look out for symptoms of a heart attack, but I was unaware that back pain could be a symptom. I deal with back pain a lot, both mechanically and due to going in and out of kidney failure, so I’ve experienced a lot of the different types of back pain you described. It’s good for all of us to know, but especially my daughter and I because dealing with back pain, we’re more likely to blow it off and just deal with it. Thanks again! Your videos are interesting and I shall continue watching! Y’all take care during these colder, sicker months!💗
Do you have a video on SI Joint pain?
We do not Ron. It can be very debilitating. Sometimes NSAIDs and physio but often requires injections. Best of luck. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Does ovarian cancer cause back pain?
Hi Angela. It could. Many abdominal and pelvic pathologies can cause back pain. Thanks for watching and subscribing
HELP I do not have back pain but across my back get tired, I had hip replacement surgery 7 weeks ago, and I am walking with a cane. My hip does not hurt but why is my back tire out not hurt just feels week.
Maybe related to the new way you walk. Or the spinal anesthetic
Thanks folks, this subject touches a nerve with so many millions of poor, suffering souls. I think too many populations rapidly shifting into 'sedentary/Wall-E mode' isn't helping! Those legs weren't made for sitting! Maybe we need human 'gerbil' wheels lol.
Agreed Alexis. We are on our devices too much. Maybe just limit it to Talking With Docs videos 😀. Thanks for watching and subscribing
chiropactors
They cause back pain? Thanks for watching and subscribing
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Thanks for watching and subscribing Mustang
Who knew?so many causes of back pain…new hats..cute
Thanks Linda. Thanks for watching and subscribing
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That’s awesome Dale. Thanks for watching and subscribing