I have all three versions and kept one…GR II. I find the GR II lens has more pop 3D kind of rendering. The flash is a great tool especially combined in black and white high contrast scene. It took me close to a thousand shots on the GR III just to decipher if it’s a keeper but I find the GR II is more than what I need to satisfy my cravings. The GR I is the same with 2nd version without the ability to connect with your phone. The extra megapixels on the latter one is really useless even if you’re printing. The cost alone will deter you to something more versatile (but still pocketable) like a Sony RX100 series. My suggestion is if you have the money and can’t find its older siblings then get the GR III. But if you have the first or the second, save your money or have a mini vacation and enjoy.
I have the GR1 after all the hype that it is a goid camera gor street / travel photography. To sone extend it is but nowadays there are many mirrorless cameras which can match it or better. I ceratainly would not buy the GR3 at its current price. At the GR3 price, I can easily buy a better canera like the Canon M6 Mk2 with a 22mm f/2.0 pancake lens. Or much cheaper if I choose the Canon M200. The positive film mode on the GR1 is good though. However, the M6 Mk2 will win due to its 32Mp sensor with a better tracking AF capsbility. It is slightly bigger but it also has a better grip and more lens options should you need it. The GR3 is just over priced and without a built-in flash, it is inconvenient when you need a bit of fill light.
Recently upgraded to the Ricoh griii based in your Ricoh challenge. Love the Ricoh and the shooting experience. Just sold off the rest of my Fuji gear and concentrating on making better images and capturing the moment rather than focusing on all the gear and lens combinations. That for setting me free! My wallet also thanks you!
Hi Eric, it wasn’t the image quality that was my deciding factor in keeping my GRIII (3) but the IBIS - that, for me, has been staggeringly useful and fun and broadening the range of when I bring the camera into play vs leaving it in my pocket. Thanks always for your GR videos 🙌
Parfois j'ai l'impression que mon GRII était plus net et avait un meilleur rendu des tonalités. Je l'aurais gardé s'il n'avait pas tant de poussières sur le capteur. J'utilise désormais l'adaptateur GA1 et un filtre. Le GR3 est un bon appareil mais je n'ai pu m'y attacher comme à mon premier.
Believe me or not, but I'm shooting vlogs often with the GRII and much prefer it to the III as far as video goes. Also for photos - positive film is better on the I and II. I'm thinking about the IIIx for that 40mm lens, I think it would be much better for photos :) but overall I think GRII is the perfect camera.
Nice review. What did you not like about the GR II? Have the digital GR IV and picked up the GR II based on my experience shooting the digital IV. Hooked on the Ricoh GR…
I bought original GR for 200 USD here in Philippines 2 weeks ago. Then bought original GR again week after that with broken shutter cable for 100 USD that I later fixed the same day by myself here in Philippines. I'm not sure how much it sells for in other countries.
If it about cost, then a old Kodak point and shoot from a second hand store will do for $10. The GRiii/GRiiiX is well worth it for me. IBIS for hand held slow shutter speeds are a wow! I can’t believe I have sharp photos at 1/15 shutter speed hand held. Again if you can’t afford it then yes, I am sure you can find many ways to justify why not to upgrade. And yes, GR one and two are great for there specs.
Great video! I’ve a gr2 which I love and a x100f which is better in low light but during the summer it’s just been gathering dust as it’s not pocketable. I mainly just document the family and having snap mode, my children running around hasn’t been a problem. However, now it’s getting darker, I’m more likely to be taking shots inside and I’m finding I can’t rely on the gr2 in this situation. I’m thinking about trading the x100f for a gr3 or gr3x. How do you find the gr3 when shooting inside with the family? Is my logic sound? Is the gr3 better than the gr2 in this regard? Love to hear your thoughts. Love the positive film effect on the gr2. Any chance you can do a video showing how best to use the on camera flash and what a good go to settings is on a gr2.
Yeah I totally feel this. I wanted a GRii last week and I couldn't find any decent ones for under $800. I decided to go with the original GRi for $500 and I just got it today. It's already blowing my mind 🤯 I don't need wifi, I'm totally fine just inserting my sd card into my computer
@@adamhymel2386 did you get yours off ebay? How did you know you could trust the source? I found a couple of GRs for $500 as well, really considering pulling the trigger. They’re both from Japan.
Not much of a difference on a 1080p stream and both being shot during the day. Take this out at night, shoot at 1/4th, let's see the results then. :) Good video nonetheless.
Yes, but that's the point with this GR thing. I can find a 6D, Nikon whatever at same or lower price that could be better, but we're not talking about anything comparable. Who buys the Ricoh just want the size, and the fixed lense. Now, with these 2 in mind, what other APS-C is there on the market that can match ? Not too many... XF10, X70 may be, but that's about it I think. Otherwise if we go with interchangeable lens camera, many are there at this kind of intro price. But again, I believe that's not really what the GR should be compared to...
Hi Eric Nice review of the two GR cameras. It's too bad that Ricoh hasn't addressed the problems with the GR series while they continue the high price for a poorly designed camera. I think I'll save my money and check out some other brands for a compact camera. Best wishes Duane
@@ericrjennings Screws, check your screws on either model, they tend to get loose and are a pain to find since Ricoh (A-holes in this regard) refuses to sell them and they want you to send the camera for putting the screws at 100+ expense. Native GR II color profile sucks too (bluish/grey cast), but one can create a good one in LR. Dust bucket ? Yeah... Sharpness/mpx count is unbelievable on the GR II and seems to closely rival at 24mx but it's a different lens/group/element on the III. Any GR I II users will miss the exp. comp. rocker and the flash. Those upgrading will enjoy much better noise in dark scenes, closer macro, higher mpx count, Ibis and face recognition. Yet, my GR II broke a while ago (could find a new Fuji X70 at good price then - It's a good camera too with better jpeg colors out of the box) but still missing my old GR , and I'm still debating if I want to find a good deal on a used eBay GR II as I had and enjoyed or should go with the GR III (around 850 new which is anyway very low for what this camera can give). The comparative video is good but stays too much in full well lit scenes, It'd have been nice to see the noise from a dark forest shot or dusk scene at high Iso on the III vs the GR I or II. I think this is where the strongest point of the III could actually be. That, and I believe better DR. Thanks for the insightful video anyway...
Question, I'm confused, it looks like you are comparing GRII to GRIII from the photos of the back of the camera. The GR didnt have the lever in the back? Let me know.. thank you ! Great Video!
Thanks for the video and I have the GR. And absolutely love it. But since a few months, it's got some problems, and one that bugs me the most is the shutter opening up closed, until I take a blank photo to open it up. ruclips.net/video/yLKhSn0C90I/видео.html if the OP or someone else can help.
sorry for the foggy image at the start .... i went from A/C to humidity
I have all three versions and kept one…GR II. I find the GR II lens has more pop 3D kind of rendering. The flash is a great tool especially combined in black and white high contrast scene. It took me close to a thousand shots on the GR III just to decipher if it’s a keeper but I find the GR II is more than what I need to satisfy my cravings. The GR I is the same with 2nd version without the ability to connect with your phone. The extra megapixels on the latter one is really useless even if you’re printing. The cost alone will deter you to something more versatile (but still pocketable) like a Sony RX100 series. My suggestion is if you have the money and can’t find its older siblings then get the GR III. But if you have the first or the second, save your money or have a mini vacation and enjoy.
I have the GR1 after all the hype that it is a goid camera gor street / travel photography. To sone extend it is but nowadays there are many mirrorless cameras which can match it or better. I ceratainly would not buy the GR3 at its current price. At the GR3 price, I can easily buy a better canera like the Canon M6 Mk2 with a 22mm f/2.0 pancake lens. Or much cheaper if I choose the Canon M200.
The positive film mode on the GR1 is good though. However, the M6 Mk2 will win due to its 32Mp sensor with a better tracking AF capsbility. It is slightly bigger but it also has a better grip and more lens options should you need it.
The GR3 is just over priced and without a built-in flash, it is inconvenient when you need a bit of fill light.
Which version from all 3 has most "analogue vibe"/depth to it guys? , one word answer is enough for me, thanks
GR II
Kept my GRII and returned the GRIII. Not enough improvement in areas that were important to me and handling is better on the GRII. Good video! Thanks!
That's funny, I just uploaded a video comparing Positive Film between GR and GR III. I'm also sticking to my GR and selling my GR III again.
Recently upgraded to the Ricoh griii based in your Ricoh challenge. Love the Ricoh and the shooting experience. Just sold off the rest of my Fuji gear and concentrating on making better images and capturing the moment rather than focusing on all the gear and lens combinations. That for setting me free! My wallet also thanks you!
This video has cured my GAS as a GR owner, so thank you.
Glad it helped. My chronic GAS is still alive
I love the IBIS. It reduces the operator error :)
Hi Eric, it wasn’t the image quality that was my deciding factor in keeping my GRIII (3) but the IBIS - that, for me, has been staggeringly useful and fun and broadening the range of when I bring the camera into play vs leaving it in my pocket. Thanks always for your GR videos 🙌
Parfois j'ai l'impression que mon GRII était plus net et avait un meilleur rendu des tonalités. Je l'aurais gardé s'il n'avait pas tant de poussières sur le capteur. J'utilise désormais l'adaptateur GA1 et un filtre. Le GR3 est un bon appareil mais je n'ai pu m'y attacher comme à mon premier.
Thank you, Eric. You just saved me a ton of cash.
Believe me or not, but I'm shooting vlogs often with the GRII and much prefer it to the III as far as video goes. Also for photos - positive film is better on the I and II. I'm thinking about the IIIx for that 40mm lens, I think it would be much better for photos :) but overall I think GRII is the perfect camera.
I have the Ricoh 8.1 megapixel camera. I use it for black and white
Nice review. What did you not like about the GR II? Have the digital GR IV and picked up the GR II based on my experience shooting the digital IV. Hooked on the Ricoh GR…
Do you notice any difference with the autofocus performance? Especially in low light situations? That's probably my biggest complaint with my GR.
Have used prices gone up? I'm not seeing the original GR for under $500 anywhere.
Yes they have
I bought original GR for 200 USD here in Philippines 2 weeks ago. Then bought original GR again week after that with broken shutter cable for 100 USD that I later fixed the same day by myself here in Philippines. I'm not sure how much it sells for in other countries.
If it about cost, then a old Kodak point and shoot from a second hand store will do for $10. The GRiii/GRiiiX is well worth it for me. IBIS for hand held slow shutter speeds are a wow! I can’t believe I have sharp photos at 1/15 shutter speed hand held. Again if you can’t afford it then yes, I am sure you can find many ways to justify why not to upgrade. And yes, GR one and two are great for there specs.
Great video! I’ve a gr2 which I love and a x100f which is better in low light but during the summer it’s just been gathering dust as it’s not pocketable. I mainly just document the family and having snap mode, my children running around hasn’t been a problem. However, now it’s getting darker, I’m more likely to be taking shots inside and I’m finding I can’t rely on the gr2 in this situation. I’m thinking about trading the x100f for a gr3 or gr3x. How do you find the gr3 when shooting inside with the family? Is my logic sound? Is the gr3 better than the gr2 in this regard? Love to hear your thoughts. Love the positive film effect on the gr2. Any chance you can do a video showing how best to use the on camera flash and what a good go to settings is on a gr2.
The used price for both of them so close anyway though. GR1 and two have gone up so much.
Yeah I totally feel this. I wanted a GRii last week and I couldn't find any decent ones for under $800. I decided to go with the original GRi for $500 and I just got it today. It's already blowing my mind 🤯 I don't need wifi, I'm totally fine just inserting my sd card into my computer
@@adamhymel2386 did you get yours off ebay? How did you know you could trust the source? I found a couple of GRs for $500 as well, really considering pulling the trigger. They’re both from Japan.
From your review the GR3 certainly isn't worth $600 more.
Good honest advise much appreciated
The GR3 is better, and if you need to shoot at higher ISO, the difference should be clear
Not much of a difference on a 1080p stream and both being shot during the day. Take this out at night, shoot at 1/4th, let's see the results then. :) Good video nonetheless.
Nikon Z50 or GRiii
Same price!
Can the GRIII do everything like Z50?
Only with a fixed lens.
Yes, but that's the point with this GR thing. I can find a 6D, Nikon whatever at same or lower price that could be better, but we're not talking about anything comparable. Who buys the Ricoh just want the size, and the fixed lense. Now, with these 2 in mind, what other APS-C is there on the market that can match ? Not too many... XF10, X70 may be, but that's about it I think. Otherwise if we go with interchangeable lens camera, many are there at this kind of intro price. But again, I believe that's not really what the GR should be compared to...
Hi Eric
Nice review of the two GR cameras. It's too bad that Ricoh hasn't addressed the problems with the GR series while they continue the high price for a poorly designed camera. I think I'll save my money and check out some other brands for a compact camera.
Best wishes
Duane
It’s the best compact pocket camera I’ve been tried if you’re okay with a fixed 28mm. I’m saying that, get a GR or GRII and save some money.
@@ericrjennings Screws, check your screws on either model, they tend to get loose and are a pain to find since Ricoh (A-holes in this regard) refuses to sell them and they want you to send the camera for putting the screws at 100+ expense. Native GR II color profile sucks too (bluish/grey cast), but one can create a good one in LR. Dust bucket ? Yeah... Sharpness/mpx count is unbelievable on the GR II and seems to closely rival at 24mx but it's a different lens/group/element on the III.
Any GR I II users will miss the exp. comp. rocker and the flash. Those upgrading will enjoy much better noise in dark scenes, closer macro, higher mpx count, Ibis and face recognition.
Yet, my GR II broke a while ago (could find a new Fuji X70 at good price then - It's a good camera too with better jpeg colors out of the box) but still missing my old GR , and I'm still debating if I want to find a good deal on a used eBay GR II as I had and enjoyed or should go with the GR III (around 850 new which is anyway very low for what this camera can give).
The comparative video is good but stays too much in full well lit scenes, It'd have been nice to see the noise from a dark forest shot or dusk scene at high Iso on the III vs the GR I or II.
I think this is where the strongest point of the III could actually be. That, and I believe better DR.
Thanks for the insightful video anyway...
Question, I'm confused, it looks like you are comparing GRII to GRIII from the photos of the back of the camera. The GR didnt have the lever in the back? Let me know.. thank you ! Great Video!
Excellent video and I like your hat !!
Isn’t the autofocus much faster for the GR3? That would be my main reason for upgrading.
thanks!!
Autofocus differences?
For center focus and recompose like I do, minimal.
I dont know anyone who likes the round dial.
Thanks for the video and I have the GR. And absolutely love it. But since a few months, it's got some problems, and one that bugs me the most is the shutter opening up closed, until I take a blank photo to open it up. ruclips.net/video/yLKhSn0C90I/видео.html if the OP or someone else can help.
Yup def not worth the extra $600!
Thumbs down for that hat. 👎
It’s a thin blue line hat for hockey. I have family that are good officers so I support them. Don’t like it? … don’t watch
@TreyPiepmeier If appearances are what you are about then your opinion doesn’t matter much anyways.