I used to make GR "equivalent" cameras... the best combo I came up with was the Lumix GX-85 with the 14mm 2.5 and 20mm 1.7 pancake lenses. The tilt screen still has me carrying this combo on dedicated walks. That said, I bought a GR3x a year ago, and it's been with me everywhere I went in 2023. Glad I bought the aluminum lens cover, because this camera now looks "well-used". And it is. There isn't a substitute for a camera that has excellent image quality that easily fits in your trouser pocket. It hurt to pay $1000 USD for it... but I'm now glad I did.
@@unbroken1010 which one? Not sure if you got tagged in my other comment so here asking again: I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
@________2705 @kennygo830 I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
There's only one problem. The Sony nex-5 photos don't look anything at all like a gr3. The color and character of the photos is totally different. Besides there have been Sigma 19mm and 30mm autofocus lenses available for years that are a little larger but probably a lot better and cost about the same as the TTartisan.
My nex7 has been around the world and is still going strong. It does have the viewfinder and a couple of programmable dials, plus a weird version of a hot shoe. Been using old Pentax screw mount glass with adapter and creating exceptional images. Would love to see your take on the 7. Thanks for the excellent dive into the capabilities of the not so new gear, and the positive spin on getting out there with whatever camera you’ve got. Top notch and refreshing!
I still love my nex 7 and use it often.i broke the back lcd so I covered it with fake leather adhesive.now it's evf only and my dedicated "film" camera I use all my vintage lenses on it.
@@fxckrio how is a5100 compared to these? I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I had the Sony A5100, is good, but the colors weren't my preference. There is no the same love for Nikon, Canon or Sony because their offering is for a broad range of users. The Ricoh GR IIIx and the Fujifilm X100 are specialized. IMO the best option is to save and get what one really wants, rather than paying twice, ymmv
Great idea. The strongest point of GR3 is being a truely pocketable APSC. So far nearly NO other camera can do that. The combination you recommended somehow achieves that with great shooting experience.
Precisely. I recently got a filter holder for my gr3 and when attached, it completely removes the pocketability of the camera. On a plus side, I'm able to use CPL filter so that's a nice.
Yep. This. That’s why I bit the bullet and bought a GR iii despite cheaper options. It is so wonderful being able to slip a pro-quality camera into my front pocket without assembling and disassembling lenses when walking about. But I love this video, as it definitely gets us in the ballpark for a lower price.
I had a 5t and enjoyed it, but it isnt a replacement for my GR. The main things I like about my GR are how small it gets, it is truly pocketable, how you can operate it one handed, and the snap focus feature. That said, if you cant or wont afford a GR, do buy this nex 5/ttartisan thing he is talking about.
Olympus PEN PL-8 + Lumix 14mm = inexpensive tiny combo for street. Panasonic GX9 + Leica 15mm = a great combo, as is adding an Olympus 25mm f1.8, Lumix 30mm macro, or Olympus 45mm f1.8 for street portrait and detail shots -- take you pick, as these cover in full frame field of view between 30mm and 90mm. I just got the Leica 15mm and so far it looks great. Using the Olympus 25mm is also awesome. - Loren Schwiderski
@@JonasMondrup The GX85 is pretty good too, and at one time priced really low for a new camera. Oly EM10 mkII is also a winner. Canon RP is a good economy shooter, but a step up in bulk overall -- still nice. Lately I have been using the GX9 the most. Take a look at my site for the variety used. Lots of street photography without the cookie cutter look and bokeh. - Loren Schwiderski
@@JonasMondrup @mitchhifi9192 thanks for sharing (: I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
George! I just bought a refurb GR IIIx and it arrived a few days ago. Since receiving it, I've thought, "meh." And at the same time, I have a Sony A6000 just sitting there saying, "What was wrong with me?" THIS might be the thing. I could get this GR IIIx out to some happy buyer and grab a NEX (I'll go 7, I think?), and I've already got lenses that will do the job. You're so smart. You just saved me a few bucks and helped me reconsider a choice I've been semi regretting. I think. Going to ponder this one. But thank you. This might have cracked the case. (Still doing monochrome only - at least in my shooting) for this month with you.
Too much of a trade off in order to be enjoyable, if you ask me.. my perfect low budget combination is the Lumix GX7 + Panasonic 20mm (40mm FF) f1.7 lens You can get the body sometimes for around 200€ and the lens for around 150€ Advantages over your setup: Viewfinder IBIS Touchscreen Great UI Lots of customizable dials and buttons More elegant design Higher resolution Good companion app Crazy sharp lens Accurate autofocus And obviously a huge amount of super affordable tiny lenses, that deliver superb quality
@@bwc1976 @TheAndroidFan98 Thanks for sharing! I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
For nearly same price you could get an NEX-5 variant that shoots RAW. I have the Sony NEX-5n. It's 16MP and shoots RAW. It's great quality for under $100.
thanks for sharing (: I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
i also made my Ricoh GR3 version with sony a5100 and sony pancake lens 20mm f2.8. It has the compact size the GR has, the similar focal length, and got the faster autofocus. About the color, i shifted the auto white balance a to green and yellow side, bring it to snapseed to get a little film simulation. And then I got the result that i wanted
thanks for sharing (: I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
It's great you do this type of videos and help buck the trend of influencers who are pushing up the price is everything. At least we know we have alternatives now.
Another vote for the Sony 20 2.8 - I take my a6300 places with that instead of my a7IV or a7SIII because it is actually, genuinely pocketable with the pancake, and image quality is very good (though the bokeh character is a weak point). I find the 60mm equivalent length to be too tight for a walk around. The a6300’s 24MP allows me to punch in, though, so a wide lens is more flexible.
Hey! I picked up an Olympus M-10 because I saw your video, and I love it. It’s funny, i don’t get the best photos out of it, but simply shooting is enjoyable, even if I never look at the photos again.
I love photograph in the street with Canon eos M3 + Canon EF-M 22mm f/2 STM. Take a look at this kit, and maybe a review. It was to be commended because no one ever talks about this equipment that can be obtained for less than € 300. Rangefinder-style mirrorless 24 megapixels 366 g (0.81 lb / 12.91 oz) 111 x 68 x 44 mm (4.37 x 2.68 x 1.73″) 💪👍👍
I recently picked up a Canon M6 and plan to get the 22mm as my compact (and film sim) setup. I wish the TTArtisan 27mm auto focus came in EF-M, but of course Canon doesn't want to open up to 3rd party lenses, so the Canon 22mm is the only option for pancake lens with auto-focus..
@@mikes978 @esppics21 @aeropt thanks for sharing (: I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I recently purchased for an insanely low price a Samsung NX300 camera with a 30/2 lens for less than 200$. On top of that I also got a 10mm fisheye for 100$ and a 16/2.4 lens for another 100$. All pancake lenses. There is also a 20/2.8 pancake available. Cheap, light, pocketable, APS-C with really good DR and face-AF.
thanks for sharing (: seems interesting. I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I have the GR3X and it is very impressive little camera. I have had some alternatives. I had an E-P1 with 20mm f1.7 which was great but not light or small. I had a fujifilm XF10(28mm) & a Nikon Coolpix A . also a nice camera but 28mm equiv. The thing is, the Ricoh is really fast. It has also changed the way i take pictures because of its limitations. ex no flash & 40mm makes me shoot vertical in tighter spaces. I waited a longtime and tried many cameras and still have my X100 original. The thing is. The Ricoh is tiny. PLUS, the ibis is a big plus . I can get really sharp shots @1/30th that would need 1/125th on most of my other cameras.
thanks for sharing. you have had lot of cameras (: I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I have a Nex-5 with some very good lenses. There are two main problems when comparing to the GR. Low light performance is abominal. And the color science just isn't in the same leage. But it does have interchangeable lenses which is a very big plus indeed. I think maybe a sony A6XXX would be a better choice.
thanks for sharing (: I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
As a person with a NEX5R you can definitely put it your pocket if it's not skinny jeans. It's not a one to one but it's a really nice portable experience. I use it as my edc when I'm not using my actual camera.
Great video! I made my own "interchangeable lens" "point-and-shoot" camera using my old a5100. I bought the Sony E 20mm f2.8 lens to go with it and have had a blast taking and uploading photos every single day for the past 2 weeks! Unfortunately, a few days ago, my a5100 screen turned on and off whenever I flip the screen. 😢
thanks for sharing (: I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
@@photographer8486 i ask myself the same question too. lol I haven't got a solution yet but I am prone to get either another a5100/a6000 or something like rx100 vi. but the latter is kinda expensive. Hope the insight from my experience helps and all the best!
Nobody's talking about it because it's a dumb idea and completely misses the point of the Ricoh GR, which is its pocketability. The main appeal of the Ricoh GR is that I can easily slip it in and out of my pant pocket and not look like I have something bulging out of my pocket. Never mind a pant pocket, I wouldn't want to carry your "fake Ricoh GR" setup in a jacket given how bulky it is (not to mention I don't even wear a jacket half the year). Since it's not truly pocketable, I'd have to carry it in a camera bag, at which point, why would I even consider using this gimped setup over dozens of other options that are way more powerful and versatile? Also it doesn't have snap focus or film simulation which are the other selling points of the Ricoh GR. If I want something that's cheap and actually pocketable, I'd rather get a used copy of the original Ricoh GR which blows this thing out of the water.
Cheaper, reasonably small, and can probably produce similar IQ ... but people also like the ergonomics/handling/pocketability of the GR, and this is going to fall well short.
Nice video! Not to be a downer but I got the GRII right after the GRIII came out. It’s not nearly as low light capable as my Canon R6 + 15-35mm, but there is something about the shots and UX you didn’t touch on here. The film developer styles like Cross Process, Bleach and multiple B&W lend a very unique character to shots that I don’t see here. The sensor gives a gritty edge that feels street more so than your setup. And the snap lengths (1meter, 2, 5 , infinite) can really dial in a comfort zone for fast snaps on the street. Plus the black color is more stealth. Almost every control is one layer deep with a physical button. Altogether it’s a big diff. And it has Bluetooth to transfer to your phone or laptop. I would encourage folks to try the GRII for a more affordable option.
I'm 100% on board with the form factor of this setup (My life is and always has been 100% Pentax but the Q series isn't attractive to me, and the K-01 is WAY too wonky). I think I will be hunting for a Sony NES-* camera and a few Sony E lenses. I really like the look (I want to see a monster wildlife lens on there :) ). Thanks for this, I'm going to be keeping my eye out for a NES-5(or higher) to add to my life.
If possible, I will ask this question. if we are talking about the equivalent to 35mm or the so-called full frame, then why do we choose 28mm and 40mm lenses, because the Sony Nex does not have an FF sensor, so is it not necessary to make an adjustment for the crop factor of the sensor itself? If I remember correctly, Sony Nex has a crop factor of 1.5, which means to get the equivalent of 28mm on FF we need an 18mm lens, and for the equivalent of 40mm we need a 26-28mm lens? correct me if I'm wrong
I always thought the 5 was the best looking of the range, not that we should buy cameras based on how they look. But we often do. The GR series remains truly pocketable, not sort of pocketable.
thanks for sharing (: are a5000 and a5100 equally good? I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I just received an old nex5 that my gf never used I paired it with an old ttartisan 25 f2. Good but I style have issue with the ergonomic and also sadly no mute shutter so hard not to heard. Maybe I should find an old sony with a mute shutter and use the 28f2.8
did you find one with mute shutter? I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
Nex5n with manuel Meike 28 f2.8 (only "snap-focus"^^) is my pocket set up for years (before I even learned about Ricoh) price: 110 € in total. But that being said: I'm still thinking about the Ricoh...
thanks for sharing (: I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I have a NEX 5R and it is great…until you take it out into the sunlight. The LCD screen becomes impossible to see and there is not a view finder built into the camera. You can buy one for another $200, but the terrible battery life makes the upgrade less worth the hassle.
thanks for sharing (: are a5000 and a5100 equally good? I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I own a Nex-3, and a Nex-3N. I also own a Ricoh GX100, which in most respects that matter, apart from ultimate performance, is a Ricoh GR. Nex's are just not in the game as any kind of carry around, pocketable camera, whether using pancake lenses or something bigger and fatter. The Ricoh is pocketable, the overwhelming plus that with adjustments within easy reach, it is a great handling camera. Basically it's a camera for photographers, and very enjoyable to use. Once you bung on to a Nex any kind of vintage lens ( eg Canon FD ), you're pretty much on the edge of DSLR luggable.
Thanks for sharing (: I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 28-75 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
@@photographer8486 Want to try M43 format? The Panasonic GF series and Olympus (OM System) E-PL series have many camera models. The lenses are found at reasonsble prices. The PQ is not as good as APSC but the size is smaller. If that is still too large then you might want to look at 1 inch compact cameras.
@@photographer8486 Maybe you can take a look at M43 cameras from Panasonic GF and Olympus E-Pl series. They are small, affordable, and there are many lenses for future upgrades. The picture quality is not as good as APSC or full frame if you are a pixel peeper. Otherwise it is as capable as any other formats
Very interesting way of putting it and with a lot of irony. A big advantage of the combo you suggest is that you have the sensor in sight. And if at any time it gets dirty you can clean it, not like the Ricoh ones. Congratulations, very creative and also with excellent arguments to forget about some fetish cameras.
I think the main attraction of both the GR and the X100 series are the excellent out of camera JPGs. I have owned both and if you want JPGs you can transfer to your phone and post straight out of camera they are hard to beat. You can certainly save some money by using presets such as your own but post editing in Lightroom isn't for everyone. Sadly Sony OOC JPGs don't compare. The GR is truly pocketable but suffers from sensor dust issues (made worse if you do actually put it in a dusty pocket). The X100 is only jacket pocketable. Older, smaller Fuji bodies with a pancake 27mm lens make more sense as a low cost GR alternative but that Positive Film simulation from Ricoh is so hard to beat. These days I use Micro Four Thirds and have one system of tiny lenses that I can use with either a GM1 tiny body or G9. A lot of my work is macro so the greater depth of field works for me. I moved away from Fuji because at the time the video wasn't great, it's much improved of late so if choosing again today the Fuji system would work for me but i'm happy where I am and post processing to get decent colours 😄
To all my gr friends. I have two broken gr and one working nex 3 and with the right lens the black and white are beautiful and the gr can't match the great flare I get
I don’t get why Ricoh can’t make the GR full frame… the original GR was smaller and it shot 35mm film, so why not use that exact lens and just drop in a full frame sensor. Why are full frame lenses always gigantic these days.
Nice option. To me the real "poor man's GR" is... ...the GRX. With the A12 Leica M module oh boy...with this setup, the only remaining pros for the GR is the compactness
thanks for sharing (: I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
@@photographer8486 You could get a Samyang 35mm f2.8 for your A7s2 very cheaply and have great image quality with a much lighter lens. I use a very similar setup for travel and it's fantastic
I own the NEX5N it holds a special place in my heart. I tend to use it with Samyang 35mm 2.8. For a small setup. But never crossed my mind to buy the 27mm 2.8 in E-mount. I have tried to use it with other Sony lenses like the 35mm 1.4 G master and it struggles to focus the way you mentioned. I think there is a limitation of the old Sony bodies working properly with newer E mount lenses. It focuses fine with E mount lenses made around the same time this camera came out.
I just sold my Nex 5. Same issue. You can’t use newer lenses because the camera doesn’t do well with in camera lens corrections. And there are cameras with better colors and actual film simulations
@@sherice1730 @esppics21 would I face the same problem if I get the Sony a5000, a5100 or a6000? I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
The Ricoh is a difficult sell since I still have a working NEX-C3 with a Sony 20mm 2.8 pancake. The images are fine for IG and are still clearly superior to iphone pro photos.
ok interesting point. I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
i have Sony a5100 which is basically the last really compact apsc sony produce.. the color file is just trash unless i save it RAW. i just want the file SOOC and would rather pick my griiix.
so I am confused, are you recommending the a5100? I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
That lens looks amazing, especially with the old school aperture ring! I'm very happy with my Micro Four Thirds equipment but if I do decide to move up to APS-C I'll definitely consider that lens and the older Sonys.
thanks for sharing! I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I have Canon, my R5 when I want the best image and my beloved M50 (version 1) with the EF-M 23mm f2 (36.8mm equivalent) to carry on my pocket, take to parties and do some street pictures. The M50 is amazing, if only it had a second wheel, it would be perfect. I still love it though... And it is so cheap second hand! Got mine new when it came out though
Thanks for sharing (: will the new e-mount lenses work with a5000 and a5100? I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 28-75 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
@@photographer8486 yes, you can use new lens on Sony 5000/5100. But I recommend the Sony a5100 because it’s like a Sony a6000, autofocus is much better. I had the same issue like you, for that I made this small combo for my everyday photography.
nope: i can't shoot with the lcd off in a nex5 ("hard" off, but able to "change" parameters). thats actually what drove me to gr (the original small sensor ones)
GRiii Not having a tilt screen for hip shots really bugs me endlessly. Love the IQ love the size. I like to shoot low to get more natural candid shots and I really hate the spray and pray method. Not being able to frame your shot by the hip is insane for $1000 + "street" camera. I'd even settle for a tiny flip up screen like the size of my thumb or even a primitive mirror/prism just for framing.
The only reason I spent the extra $$$ on the GR IIIx is because it fits in my pant's pocket. I have owned the NEX5 with extremely small lenses , but they do not retract into the body so they do not fit into my pocket. I wish the GR IIIx had a 43mm lens : )
you forgot one thing - ricoh goes into your pocket and the sony doesn't 🤷♂ Of course there are tons of cameras with asp-c sensor that you can use for 300$
sony a5000 or sony a5100 won't go into pocket? I was kind of considering these. ): I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 28-75 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
@@photographer8486 s2 is a crazy camera :) it's pro grade. Even though it's for video, it's also great for photos, though won't allow for a lot of cropping because of 12mp only. All of the Sony aspc cameras are great too for photos / video. As long as it's something that came out in last 5-8 years you're going to be fine . Get a 50mm lens 1.8 or 35 something and you will have solid basics to learn photography. For aspc you must adjust for crop, so the lens will be a bit different
I don't have social media! Sad! Definitely love these videos and the love for the NEX-5 lineup. I've just got my 5R and can't wait to start capturing photos!
Thanks for sharing (: I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 28-75 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
A 1000 usd for a ricoh is crazy! Thanks for this analysis, I always thought this could be a possibility but never got to do the comparison. You are making the reality that now cameras are so good that you don´t need to break the bank to have an excellent setup. Also kudos to you for not being one of those out-of-touch reviewers who think a Phase One is affordable. Thanks!!!!
The RICOH GR III would be an excellent buy at that ridiculously silly price IF it had: 1. An excellent EVF 2. Weather sealed body 3. Improved IBIS and AF
I carried the a5100 + 20mm 2.8 pancake in my pocket for 8 years. Also the 16-50 pancake is a great match. I often miss the pocketability since I've switched to the a7c.
would a5100 be good for me? or should i look for something else? I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
Finding a camera+lens combo that gives roughly the same fov and dof as gr3 is relatively easy. Finding a camera which can do that AND be pocketable at the same time is impossible. Sure, you can look at XF10 or X100 series, but it's not quite the same. And if think that pocketability is not such a big deal, check which camera you have with you and which camera stayed at home ;) Yes, gr3 is expensive, but you won't find a combination that comes close to its portability, IQ, and usability. And yes, I would love to have gr IIIx as well, but it's very hard to get/expensive.
Thanks for sharing (: I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 28-75 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
why compare the nex with the gr III? i think it is really unfair, as the nex doesn’t even have the film like simulations. A feature that for me at least it is very important. A nice comparison could be some fujifilms like x10 or the x-e line vs the gr iii.
I have a Sony 5n. It's so small and discreet. Thanks for giving me confidence to continue using the camera. I don't expect pro shots, I just like to shoot randomness
5R (16mp) and A5100 (24mp) would be my recommendations if you can get them. A5000 (20mp) also good. A5100 having the best feature set. A7 with the Samyang 35mm 2.8 being a Fuji X100V alternative for about £500 all in.
Thanks for sharing (: will the new e-mount lenses work with a5000 and a5100? I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 28-75 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
@@photographer8486 any E mount lens will work with any E or FE camera. Same with FE lenses on E cameras. It's just one mount. If it's Sony and mirrorless all the lenses will work.
I can do a bit better. How about an Olympus Pen e-pl3 and a Yongnuo 25mm autofocus. That can be had for $150 (the camera body) and the lens (about $100.00). Not a bad combination for $250!
Thanks for sharing (: I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 28-75 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
Nice topic. It's an old but capable camera and I think nothing beats the flexibility of changing lenses, even for very specific use cases it's great to have the option. If a5100 wasn't overpriced today, it could have been a killer alternative with much better AF, way more megapixels and such. Unfortunately prices go between 300$-500$, which is kinda crazy on the higher end. My only problem is colors with these little Sonys (or even the bigger ones). They rarely offer pleasant colors straight out of camera and always need a bit of tweaking. I would pay for a custom firmware that can let us tweak picture profiles like other Sonys, and I would sell my soul to have in camera film emulations.
thanks for sharing (: are a5000 and a5100 equally good? I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
Thanks for this. Inspired me to take my old Sony A5000, and mount an Industar 69 28mm f2.8 on it. The Industar needs some adjustment so it can be focused to infinity, but that's an easy fix. There are a couple of YT videos showing how. You need an M39 to NEX adapter, which as adapters go might be the thinnest for E-mount. This lens is all manual, and nothing as sharp as modern lenses, but I consider that an interesting challenge and a plus. Tack sharpness can be overrated. The whole setup is very compact and pocketable, and above all fun to use. 😊
thanks for sharing. is it possible to see this setup of yours, how compact it is, how much it weighs (: I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I'm sure you can find the dimensions of the A5000 online. The distance from the camera body to the front of the kit lens is 30mm. This extends when you switch the camera on to shoot. With the Industar 69 & the M39 adapter you have a distance of 25mm to the lens front, which also extends slightly when focusing. I'd look out for a second hand 5000 complete with kit lens to get to know it. Then you can decide if you want to get the Industar 69.@photographer8486
@@JohnDevitt Are there no compact and good E-mount lenses? Why go for such an old lens and then also use an adapter when we want a compact camera system? This Industar 69 28mm f2 is not available anywhere in India so even if I had thought this was a good idea it wouldn't work (:
Great idea… you could try an early Olympus PEN body with a body cap lens. More restrictive with a fixed f8.0 aperture, but more pocketable. No bad thing really, necessity breeds creativity. And would be easily half that budget :)
There are a few compact m43 lenses that would do the job , Pany 14mm F/2.5, Pany 20mm F/1.7 Olympus 17mm not as compact as your suggestion but lots more flexibility. I don't mind a combo being larger and my old GX8 with 20mm is by a mile my most used m43 gear
@@facelessnameless4040 @jimstirling7223 @derrenleepoole Thanks for sharing (: I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 28-75 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
Great vid showing photography doesn't need to cost a fortune. I was close to buying the Ricoh GR III but was put off by stories of dust issues - I think I was drawn in by the hype to be honest. In the end I bought a Nikon Z30 as a travel camera & it's a great piece of kit which produces good images - my other camera is a Nikon so everything was familiar. I have the kit zoom fitted but if I opted for the 24mm or 26mm it would not be dissimilar to the GR. I can understand why the Ricohs & Fujis get such a cult following but there are other options.
A while ago I converted my old nex-3 to monochrome and added a 7artisans ufo. It's a lot of fun and this one fits in a pocket! A detail that you don't mention in your comparison is that the leaf shutters of cameras like the gr, x70 or x100 are completely silent, compared to the nex series. At least my model does not have an electronic shutter either, and stealth is a great plus point in this type of camera. Greetings!
Wild, I almost bought an NEX-5 this week, but decided i should probably save my money since i already have a Lumix and Three Canon cameras 😅 I absolutely love the budget side of photography and video. Bang for the buck all the way! Dont let the capitalists tell you otherwise!
With release of new sigma 10-18 f2.8 i can finally turn my zv-e10, which serves me as a backup, into more versatile ricoh gr iii. Great time to be alive for the photographers considered the amount of options you can combine and customize to your needs.
To be honest for size comparison and photo quality a rx100 Mark 1,2 or 3 is better and cheaper then the Ricoh GR 1,2,3 the real issue with GR is PRICE and quality they break easy and also have build quality issues !
A good vidro. Thanks for sharing. I used to have a nex 5. Its a pretty camera for beginners and does things quite well. I now use A6000. Personally, I'm not into mimicking the Ricoh or Fujifilm look. But find your own style.
Thanks for sharing (: I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact) I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 28-75 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I have a contender to throw in the mix. Lumix GM5 + Lumix 20mm f1.7. It is 30% lighter than NEX-5 at only 211g, offers shallower DoF, brighter aperture, 16.1mp, has an EVF and LCD screen, similar cost, has a FF equivalence of 40mm f3.4; lots of modern features like stop motion animation, remote control from phone, touchscreen, timelapse, AND has the best B&W profile 'l.monochrome'. If that's too heavy, and you don't care about EVF, there's the GM1 at 205g.
GM5 is £500 or more if you can find one. GX800 might be a better option than a GM1 as the 20mm f1.7 sticks out the bottom of the body and it does feel a bit too small to hold. The GM1 is a lovely little thing though.
George, you're going to cost me money! Better, though, you're going to make me get off the couch and go shoot some film, er, electrons, whatever. Tiny footnote: You've correctly noted that the NEX 5 with the 27mm has no stabilization. However, and it is a different mix, the Sony 35mm has optical stabilization built into the lens, with a most useful f/1.8 aperature to boot. Not bad! If I'm careful I can hand hold that combo down to 1/15 seconds, which makes an awful lot of nighttime shots possible. And maybe that's the real bonus of these small APS-C and MFT cameras - you can make them very small, but you're not trapped there. Unlike the Ricohs (I do want) you can start with a small lens and then branch out from there once you've learned everything you can from the little one. Really enjoying, please keep it up!
I helped my friend bite the bullet on a NEX-5T w/ a bag, kit lens, sd card, & battery for $200 two days ago. The timing is insane amazing seeing this right now...
Is it really a Ricoh GR alternative? If it's not as pocketable, then I would say no. Dimensions and weight shown for NEX 5 + 27mm is without the lens. Don't forget the user interface, the ease of use of the Ricoh GR is just miles ahead, I really didn't like the interface or UI of my NEX 5n. The GR lens is sharp, while the TTartisan lens is 'acceptable', which is ok because of its low price. If you're on a budget, I would still save a little more money and get the original Ricoh GR and a wifi card adapter, then you pretty much have the same functionality as with the GR II for a lot less money.
From 2015-2017, I had a Sony NEX3N with 16-50mm lens. Took some awesome shots with it. Also used Canon 50mm 1.8 lens with Commlite adapter. The awesome part was the NEX3N only cost me $70 on eBay! Fun times!
Almost is not 100%! sorry, this setup might be cool, and great for a beginner, but it highly neglects what makes a GRIII (or x) so amazing. - GR lens ist not a 40mm/2,8 lens, it's a fucking sharp 40mm/2,8 lens. The pictures it takes are ridiculously good for it's size. a Fuji Lens of this quality costs 500€, a sony one probably 800€ - the difference between being almost pocketable and being pocketable, is very often the difference between taking a picture with your camera or your phone. This camera is always in my bag, no other camera ever was. - the one-handed manual controls are thought through, the interface was thought through. it was made for professional, one handed action... the sony NEX series was not... not even Fuji is good at this. the snap focus feature will train you to take pictures with your legs instead of autofocus. - but Fuji and Ricoh are good at other things, like regular feature updates and great inbody JPEG engine... (and an interface that doesn't want to make you kill yourself) photographers don't give love to sony, because sony doesn't give love to photographers... that's one reason this shiny shit brick costs 200-300€ and a Fuji x-e2 still costs +500€
I had an nex-5 to get my daughters shooting, but the screen died then the cable connection broke trying to replace it. Now it just sits on the shelf looking sad until I can find another one.
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I used to make GR "equivalent" cameras... the best combo I came up with was the Lumix GX-85 with the 14mm 2.5 and 20mm 1.7 pancake lenses. The tilt screen still has me carrying this combo on dedicated walks. That said, I bought a GR3x a year ago, and it's been with me everywhere I went in 2023. Glad I bought the aluminum lens cover, because this camera now looks "well-used". And it is. There isn't a substitute for a camera that has excellent image quality that easily fits in your trouser pocket. It hurt to pay $1000 USD for it... but I'm now glad I did.
there is a substitude... called Nikon Coolpix A ,)
There actually is
@@unbroken1010 which one?
Not sure if you got tagged in my other comment so here asking again:
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
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I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
Love the introduction of the projector. A break from the norm presentation format is always welcome
Awesome, thank you!
There's only one problem. The Sony nex-5 photos don't look anything at all like a gr3. The color and character of the photos is totally different. Besides there have been Sigma 19mm and 30mm autofocus lenses available for years that are a little larger but probably a lot better and cost about the same as the TTartisan.
All fair points! Definitely other options available to get a similar set up cheaper than a Ricoh, thanks for sharing 👍
Yep, but no one forbids painting it graphite or dark green+yellow. sorry sily joke
I have an Nex 6 and the sigma 19mm 2.8. Still a great combo. Shoot raw and you’re fine.
Here comes the ricoh line holders!
@@rochester212 please recommend a combo.. my budget is $500, thank you!
I am not interested in a fake GR3, but how Mr. Holden presented the subject glued me to the screen.
Think different. Fascinating.
Amazing to hear thank you!
My nex7 has been around the world and is still going strong. It does have the viewfinder and a couple of programmable dials, plus a weird version of a hot shoe. Been using old Pentax screw mount glass with adapter and creating exceptional images. Would love to see your take on the 7. Thanks for the excellent dive into the capabilities of the not so new gear, and the positive spin on getting out there with whatever camera you’ve got. Top notch and refreshing!
That's awesome! And yeah I just might get my hands on one
@@GeorgeHolden its also worth looking into original a6000 since theyre basically the same camera and the a6000s can be easier to find
I sold my nex 7 and got a fuji xt30ii. The nex 7 is great
I still love my nex 7 and use it often.i broke the back lcd so I covered it with fake leather adhesive.now it's evf only and my dedicated "film" camera I use all my vintage lenses on it.
@@fxckrio how is a5100 compared to these?
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I had the Sony A5100, is good, but the colors weren't my preference. There is no the same love for Nikon, Canon or Sony because their offering is for a broad range of users. The Ricoh GR IIIx and the Fujifilm X100 are specialized. IMO the best option is to save and get what one really wants, rather than paying twice, ymmv
Great idea. The strongest point of GR3 is being a truely pocketable APSC. So far nearly NO other camera can do that. The combination you recommended somehow achieves that with great shooting experience.
Precisely. I recently got a filter holder for my gr3 and when attached, it completely removes the pocketability of the camera. On a plus side, I'm able to use CPL filter so that's a nice.
Always a trade off between cameras!
Yep. This. That’s why I bit the bullet and bought a GR iii despite cheaper options. It is so wonderful being able to slip a pro-quality camera into my front pocket without assembling and disassembling lenses when walking about. But I love this video, as it definitely gets us in the ballpark for a lower price.
Me parece una gran idea. Me encantan estas soluciones 'fuera de la caja'. Enhorabuena!
I had a 5t and enjoyed it, but it isnt a replacement for my GR. The main things I like about my GR are how small it gets, it is truly pocketable, how you can operate it one handed, and the snap focus feature. That said, if you cant or wont afford a GR, do buy this nex 5/ttartisan thing he is talking about.
Olympus PEN PL-8 + Lumix 14mm = inexpensive tiny combo for street. Panasonic GX9 + Leica 15mm = a great combo, as is adding an Olympus 25mm f1.8, Lumix 30mm macro, or Olympus 45mm f1.8 for street portrait and detail shots -- take you pick, as these cover in full frame field of view between 30mm and 90mm. I just got the Leica 15mm and so far it looks great. Using the Olympus 25mm is also awesome. - Loren Schwiderski
The PEN PL-8 + Lumix 14mm Combo is way better than this for street imo.
@@JonasMondrup The GX85 is pretty good too, and at one time priced really low for a new camera. Oly EM10 mkII is also a winner. Canon RP is a good economy shooter, but a step up in bulk overall -- still nice. Lately I have been using the GX9 the most. Take a look at my site for the variety used. Lots of street photography without the cookie cutter look and bokeh. - Loren Schwiderski
Cheers Loren!
Lumix GX80 + 15 or 20mm Leica lens is also a cracking combination.
@@JonasMondrup @mitchhifi9192 thanks for sharing (:
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
George! I just bought a refurb GR IIIx and it arrived a few days ago. Since receiving it, I've thought, "meh." And at the same time, I have a Sony A6000 just sitting there saying, "What was wrong with me?"
THIS might be the thing. I could get this GR IIIx out to some happy buyer and grab a NEX (I'll go 7, I think?), and I've already got lenses that will do the job.
You're so smart. You just saved me a few bucks and helped me reconsider a choice I've been semi regretting. I think. Going to ponder this one. But thank you. This might have cracked the case. (Still doing monochrome only - at least in my shooting) for this month with you.
Love the video. I'm a staunch Ricoh/Pentaxian, but my Sony RX100 is brilliant. Sony does deserve more love for street.
Too much of a trade off in order to be enjoyable, if you ask me.. my perfect low budget combination is the Lumix GX7 + Panasonic 20mm (40mm FF) f1.7 lens
You can get the body sometimes for around 200€ and the lens for around 150€
Advantages over your setup:
Viewfinder
IBIS
Touchscreen
Great UI
Lots of customizable dials and buttons
More elegant design
Higher resolution
Good companion app
Crazy sharp lens
Accurate autofocus
And obviously a huge amount of super affordable tiny lenses, that deliver superb quality
Love my GX7! Still need to pick up the 14 f2.5 and/or 20 f1.7 pancakes, but the 15 f8 body cap lens is also awfully fun when the light permits.
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Thanks for sharing!
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
Huge as af for pocketable camera
For nearly same price you could get an NEX-5 variant that shoots RAW. I have the Sony NEX-5n. It's 16MP and shoots RAW. It's great quality for under $100.
thanks for sharing (:
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
i also made my Ricoh GR3 version with sony a5100 and sony pancake lens 20mm f2.8. It has the compact size the GR has, the similar focal length, and got the faster autofocus. About the color, i shifted the auto white balance a to green and yellow side, bring it to snapseed to get a little film simulation. And then I got the result that i wanted
thanks for sharing (:
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
It's great you do this type of videos and help buck the trend of influencers who are pushing up the price is everything. At least we know we have alternatives now.
Always here to test and show the alternatives that'll interest you!
Another vote for the Sony 20 2.8 - I take my a6300 places with that instead of my a7IV or a7SIII because it is actually, genuinely pocketable with the pancake, and image quality is very good (though the bokeh character is a weak point).
I find the 60mm equivalent length to be too tight for a walk around. The a6300’s 24MP allows me to punch in, though, so a wide lens is more flexible.
Agreed the bokeh is a bit of a let down on that lens
Hey! I picked up an Olympus M-10 because I saw your video, and I love it. It’s funny, i don’t get the best photos out of it, but simply shooting is enjoyable, even if I never look at the photos again.
Awesome, that's the important part!
I love photograph in the street with Canon eos M3 + Canon EF-M 22mm f/2 STM.
Take a look at this kit, and maybe a review. It was to be commended because no one ever talks about this equipment that can be obtained for less than € 300.
Rangefinder-style mirrorless
24 megapixels
366 g (0.81 lb / 12.91 oz)
111 x 68 x 44 mm (4.37 x 2.68 x 1.73″)
💪👍👍
I own the M6 with EF-M 22 and also the NEX5N. I will have to do an A B comparison to see which one focuses quicker.
I recently picked up a Canon M6 and plan to get the 22mm as my compact (and film sim) setup. I wish the TTArtisan 27mm auto focus came in EF-M, but of course Canon doesn't want to open up to 3rd party lenses, so the Canon 22mm is the only option for pancake lens with auto-focus..
So many options!
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@aeropt
thanks for sharing (:
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I recently purchased for an insanely low price a Samsung NX300 camera with a 30/2 lens for less than 200$. On top of that I also got a 10mm fisheye for 100$ and a 16/2.4 lens for another 100$. All pancake lenses. There is also a 20/2.8 pancake available. Cheap, light, pocketable, APS-C with really good DR and face-AF.
thanks for sharing (:
seems interesting.
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I have the GR3X and it is very impressive little camera. I have had some alternatives. I had an E-P1 with 20mm f1.7 which was great but not light or small. I had a fujifilm XF10(28mm) & a Nikon Coolpix A . also a nice camera but 28mm equiv. The thing is, the Ricoh is really fast. It has also changed the way i take pictures because of its limitations. ex no flash & 40mm makes me shoot vertical in tighter spaces. I waited a longtime and tried many cameras and still have my X100 original. The thing is. The Ricoh is tiny. PLUS, the ibis is a big plus . I can get really sharp shots @1/30th that would need 1/125th on most of my other cameras.
thanks for sharing. you have had lot of cameras (:
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I have a Nex-5 with some very good lenses. There are two main problems when comparing to the GR. Low light performance is abominal. And the color science just isn't in the same leage. But it does have interchangeable lenses which is a very big plus indeed. I think maybe a sony A6XXX would be a better choice.
thanks for sharing (:
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
As a person with a NEX5R you can definitely put it your pocket if it's not skinny jeans. It's not a one to one but it's a really nice portable experience. I use it as my edc when I'm not using my actual camera.
Great video!
I made my own "interchangeable lens" "point-and-shoot" camera using my old a5100. I bought the Sony E 20mm f2.8 lens to go with it and have had a blast taking and uploading photos every single day for the past 2 weeks!
Unfortunately, a few days ago, my a5100 screen turned on and off whenever I flip the screen. 😢
Thanks! I'm sorry to head that, yeah I have the 20mm 2.8 and love it
thanks for sharing (:
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
@@photographer8486 i ask myself the same question too. lol I haven't got a solution yet but I am prone to get either another a5100/a6000 or something like rx100 vi. but the latter is kinda expensive.
Hope the insight from my experience helps and all the best!
Nobody's talking about it because it's a dumb idea and completely misses the point of the Ricoh GR, which is its pocketability. The main appeal of the Ricoh GR is that I can easily slip it in and out of my pant pocket and not look like I have something bulging out of my pocket. Never mind a pant pocket, I wouldn't want to carry your "fake Ricoh GR" setup in a jacket given how bulky it is (not to mention I don't even wear a jacket half the year). Since it's not truly pocketable, I'd have to carry it in a camera bag, at which point, why would I even consider using this gimped setup over dozens of other options that are way more powerful and versatile? Also it doesn't have snap focus or film simulation which are the other selling points of the Ricoh GR. If I want something that's cheap and actually pocketable, I'd rather get a used copy of the original Ricoh GR which blows this thing out of the water.
Thanks for sharing, I didn't expect you to be so upset about a camera set up
Gimped?😂
Cheaper, reasonably small, and can probably produce similar IQ ... but people also like the ergonomics/handling/pocketability of the GR, and this is going to fall well short.
Part of why this isn't actually a GR, as you may have noticed
Nice video! Not to be a downer but I got the GRII right after the GRIII came out. It’s not nearly as low light capable as my Canon R6 + 15-35mm, but there is something about the shots and UX you didn’t touch on here. The film developer styles like Cross Process, Bleach and multiple B&W lend a very unique character to shots that I don’t see here. The sensor gives a gritty edge that feels street more so than your setup. And the snap lengths (1meter, 2, 5 , infinite) can really dial in a comfort zone for fast snaps on the street. Plus the black color is more stealth. Almost every control is one layer deep with a physical button. Altogether it’s a big diff. And it has Bluetooth to transfer to your phone or laptop. I would encourage folks to try the GRII for a more affordable option.
I'm 100% on board with the form factor of this setup (My life is and always has been 100% Pentax but the Q series isn't attractive to me, and the K-01 is WAY too wonky). I think I will be hunting for a Sony NES-* camera and a few Sony E lenses. I really like the look (I want to see a monster wildlife lens on there :) ).
Thanks for this, I'm going to be keeping my eye out for a NES-5(or higher) to add to my life.
If possible, I will ask this question. if we are talking about the equivalent to 35mm or the so-called full frame, then why do we choose 28mm and 40mm lenses, because the Sony Nex does not have an FF sensor, so is it not necessary to make an adjustment for the crop factor of the sensor itself? If I remember correctly, Sony Nex has a crop factor of 1.5, which means to get the equivalent of 28mm on FF we need an 18mm lens, and for the equivalent of 40mm we need a 26-28mm lens? correct me if I'm wrong
Thanks for increasing the price of my old Sony Nex-5. I was just going to give it to Goodwill!
I suppose you're welcome!
I always thought the 5 was the best looking of the range, not that we should buy cameras based on how they look. But we often do. The GR series remains truly pocketable, not sort of pocketable.
Great video! Saves me from having to search for a GR. I will stick with my A5100 + Sony 20mm/f2.8 setup.
Awesome!!
thanks for sharing (:
are a5000 and a5100 equally good?
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I just received an old nex5 that my gf never used I paired it with an old ttartisan 25 f2. Good but I style have issue with the ergonomic and also sadly no mute shutter so hard not to heard. Maybe I should find an old sony with a mute shutter and use the 28f2.8
did you find one with mute shutter?
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
Nex5n with manuel Meike 28 f2.8 (only "snap-focus"^^) is my pocket set up for years (before I even learned about Ricoh) price: 110 € in total. But that being said: I'm still thinking about the Ricoh...
thanks for sharing (:
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I have a NEX 5R and it is great…until you take it out into the sunlight. The LCD screen becomes impossible to see and there is not a view finder built into the camera.
You can buy one for another $200, but the terrible battery life makes the upgrade less worth the hassle.
Exactly as I said!
absolutely love shooting my A5100 with the Ttartisan 27mm
Awesome!
thanks for sharing (:
are a5000 and a5100 equally good?
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I own a Nex-3, and a Nex-3N. I also own a Ricoh GX100, which in most respects that matter, apart from ultimate performance, is a Ricoh GR. Nex's are just not in the game as any kind of carry around, pocketable camera, whether using pancake lenses or something bigger and fatter. The Ricoh is pocketable, the overwhelming plus that with adjustments within easy reach, it is a great handling camera. Basically it's a camera for photographers, and very enjoyable to use. Once you bung on to a Nex any kind of vintage lens ( eg Canon FD ), you're pretty much on the edge of DSLR luggable.
That's awesome!
The GX100 sounds great, it even has the snap focus like the GRD!
Another one which even fewer people talk about is Samsung's NX3000. Lighter and cheaper and every bit as good
Thanks for sharing (:
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 28-75 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
@@photographer8486 Want to try M43 format? The Panasonic GF series and Olympus (OM System) E-PL series have many camera models. The lenses are found at reasonsble prices. The PQ is not as good as APSC but the size is smaller. If that is still too large then you might want to look at 1 inch compact cameras.
@@photographer8486 Maybe you can take a look at M43 cameras from Panasonic GF and Olympus E-Pl series. They are small, affordable, and there are many lenses for future upgrades. The picture quality is not as good as APSC or full frame if you are a pixel peeper. Otherwise it is as capable as any other formats
because nobody will comparing them since no similarity, except for clickbait tittle
Fun concepts though
Very interesting way of putting it and with a lot of irony. A big advantage of the combo you suggest is that you have the sensor in sight. And if at any time it gets dirty you can clean it, not like the Ricoh ones. Congratulations, very creative and also with excellent arguments to forget about some fetish cameras.
Glad you found it useful!
I think the main attraction of both the GR and the X100 series are the excellent out of camera JPGs. I have owned both and if you want JPGs you can transfer to your phone and post straight out of camera they are hard to beat. You can certainly save some money by using presets such as your own but post editing in Lightroom isn't for everyone. Sadly Sony OOC JPGs don't compare. The GR is truly pocketable but suffers from sensor dust issues (made worse if you do actually put it in a dusty pocket). The X100 is only jacket pocketable. Older, smaller Fuji bodies with a pancake 27mm lens make more sense as a low cost GR alternative but that Positive Film simulation from Ricoh is so hard to beat. These days I use Micro Four Thirds and have one system of tiny lenses that I can use with either a GM1 tiny body or G9. A lot of my work is macro so the greater depth of field works for me. I moved away from Fuji because at the time the video wasn't great, it's much improved of late so if choosing again today the Fuji system would work for me but i'm happy where I am and post processing to get decent colours 😄
To all my gr friends. I have two broken gr and one working nex 3 and with the right lens the black and white are beautiful and the gr can't match the great flare I get
I don’t get why Ricoh can’t make the GR full frame… the original GR was smaller and it shot 35mm film, so why not use that exact lens and just drop in a full frame sensor. Why are full frame lenses always gigantic these days.
Would be amazing
Nice option. To me the real "poor man's GR" is...
...the GRX.
With the A12 Leica M module oh boy...with this setup, the only remaining pros for the GR is the compactness
Could get a used Canon M200 and 22mm f/2 pancake lens for slightly more money, but it weighs quite more and is a bit thicker
thanks for sharing (:
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
@@photographer8486 You could get a Samyang 35mm f2.8 for your A7s2 very cheaply and have great image quality with a much lighter lens. I use a very similar setup for travel and it's fantastic
I own the NEX5N it holds a special place in my heart. I tend to use it with Samyang 35mm 2.8. For a small setup. But never crossed my mind to buy the 27mm 2.8 in E-mount. I have tried to use it with other Sony lenses like the 35mm 1.4 G master and it struggles to focus the way you mentioned. I think there is a limitation of the old Sony bodies working properly with newer E mount lenses. It focuses fine with E mount lenses made around the same time this camera came out.
I just sold my Nex 5. Same issue. You can’t use newer lenses because the camera doesn’t do well with in camera lens corrections. And there are cameras with better colors and actual film simulations
That's awesome, thanks for sharing!
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@esppics21
would I face the same problem if I get the Sony a5000, a5100 or a6000?
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
would I face the same problem if I get the Sony a5000, a5100 or a6000?
Can it do snap focus? Thats 99% of the reason I shoot a Ricoh GR.
The Ricoh is a difficult sell since I still have a working NEX-C3 with a Sony 20mm 2.8 pancake. The images are fine for IG and are still clearly superior to iphone pro photos.
Very good point!
What about the leaf shutter? You don’t mention this. This is a big difference. > street speedlight photography
ok interesting point.
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
i have Sony a5100 which is basically the last really compact apsc sony produce.. the color file is just trash unless i save it RAW. i just want the file SOOC and would rather pick my griiix.
so I am confused, are you recommending the a5100?
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
My GR "equivalent" is my Sony NEX-F3 (16 MP sensor) with Sigma 30mm f2.8 DN Art lens. I paid 200 euros for the whole set
I have Nex-5n + Sigma 30mm f2.8. Great little combo.
Wanna try sony 20mm pancake lens. It will be little smaller i guess
That lens looks amazing, especially with the old school aperture ring! I'm very happy with my Micro Four Thirds equipment but if I do decide to move up to APS-C I'll definitely consider that lens and the older Sonys.
thanks for sharing!
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I have Canon, my R5 when I want the best image and my beloved M50 (version 1) with the EF-M 23mm f2 (36.8mm equivalent) to carry on my pocket, take to parties and do some street pictures. The M50 is amazing, if only it had a second wheel, it would be perfect. I still love it though... And it is so cheap second hand! Got mine new when it came out though
What an awesome idea for a video.
Cheers!
I had the same idea, but I chose the a5100. Great video 🙌
Ahh and recently I get the 7artisans 18mm f6.3 to have the exactly 28mm focal length
Awesome!
Thanks for sharing (:
will the new e-mount lenses work with a5000 and a5100?
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 28-75 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
@@photographer8486 yes, you can use new lens on Sony 5000/5100. But I recommend the Sony a5100 because it’s like a Sony a6000, autofocus is much better. I had the same issue like you, for that I made this small combo for my everyday photography.
nope: i can't shoot with the lcd off in a nex5 ("hard" off, but able to "change" parameters). thats actually what drove me to gr (the original small sensor ones)
The projector is a great idea; I love how we know it would look right if we were in the room, except we aren't and so it doesn't but doesn't matter.
GRiii Not having a tilt screen for hip shots really bugs me endlessly. Love the IQ love the size. I like to shoot low to get more natural candid shots and I really hate the spray and pray method. Not being able to frame your shot by the hip is insane for $1000 + "street" camera. I'd even settle for a tiny flip up screen like the size of my thumb or even a primitive mirror/prism just for framing.
The only reason I spent the extra $$$ on the GR IIIx is because it fits in my pant's pocket. I have owned the NEX5 with extremely small lenses , but they do not retract into the body so they do not fit into my pocket. I wish the GR IIIx had a 43mm lens : )
you forgot one thing - ricoh goes into your pocket and the sony doesn't 🤷♂ Of course there are tons of cameras with asp-c sensor that you can use for 300$
sony a5000 or sony a5100 won't go into pocket? I was kind of considering these. ):
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 28-75 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
@@photographer8486 s2 is a crazy camera :) it's pro grade. Even though it's for video, it's also great for photos, though won't allow for a lot of cropping because of 12mp only. All of the Sony aspc cameras are great too for photos / video. As long as it's something that came out in last 5-8 years you're going to be fine . Get a 50mm lens 1.8 or 35 something and you will have solid basics to learn photography. For aspc you must adjust for crop, so the lens will be a bit different
I don't have social media! Sad! Definitely love these videos and the love for the NEX-5 lineup. I've just got my 5R and can't wait to start capturing photos!
Oh no! Feel free to send a photo regardless, would love to see your stuff
whoever is paying $1000 for a sensor thats much smaller than APS-C is smoking strong shit
Thanks for sharing (:
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 28-75 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
A 1000 usd for a ricoh is crazy! Thanks for this analysis, I always thought this could be a possibility but never got to do the comparison. You are making the reality that now cameras are so good that you don´t need to break the bank to have an excellent setup. Also kudos to you for not being one of those out-of-touch reviewers who think a Phase One is affordable. Thanks!!!!
Thank you very much for watching and commenting, yes don't worry I won't start saying that Leicas are a reasonable purchase 😅
The RICOH GR III would be an excellent buy at that ridiculously silly price IF it had:
1. An excellent EVF
2. Weather sealed body
3. Improved IBIS and AF
@@macallanvintage AHMEN to #1. Any EVF would be appreciated. Yes to #2-3. Also a tilty screen.
Who buys cameras new?
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I carried the a5100 + 20mm 2.8 pancake in my pocket for 8 years. Also the 16-50 pancake is a great match. I often miss the pocketability since I've switched to the a7c.
Fair!
would a5100 be good for me? or should i look for something else?
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I think the lumix gx80 + 20mm 1.7f might be a better alternative
The first AF TTartisan lens is the 35mm for the Nikon-APSC mount. Otherwise, good video :-) Though I will stick with my Ricoh all the same :-)
OH?! I know they have a new 35mm AF for Fuji APSC, but that's good to know - thank you!
Finding a camera+lens combo that gives roughly the same fov and dof as gr3 is relatively easy. Finding a camera which can do that AND be pocketable at the same time is impossible. Sure, you can look at XF10 or X100 series, but it's not quite the same. And if think that pocketability is not such a big deal, check which camera you have with you and which camera stayed at home ;) Yes, gr3 is expensive, but you won't find a combination that comes close to its portability, IQ, and usability. And yes, I would love to have gr IIIx as well, but it's very hard to get/expensive.
very true!
Thanks for sharing (:
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 28-75 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
why compare the nex with the gr III? i think it is really unfair, as the nex doesn’t even have the film like simulations. A feature that for me at least it is very important. A nice comparison could be some fujifilms like x10 or the x-e line vs the gr iii.
Having owned both, huge nah
I looked at the Sony NEX-5 on ebay and all the screens in the back were severely worn and scratched.
The scenes, you stand in front of the projector, are great. I've never seen before. Cool 👍
Thanks 👍
Lack of built in flash from Ricoh camera is a deal breaker to me
I have a Sony 5n. It's so small and discreet. Thanks for giving me confidence to continue using the camera. I don't expect pro shots, I just like to shoot randomness
5R (16mp) and A5100 (24mp) would be my recommendations if you can get them. A5000 (20mp) also good. A5100 having the best feature set. A7 with the Samyang 35mm 2.8 being a Fuji X100V alternative for about £500 all in.
Sweet that's good to know!
Thanks for sharing (:
will the new e-mount lenses work with a5000 and a5100?
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 28-75 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
@@photographer8486 any E mount lens will work with any E or FE camera. Same with FE lenses on E cameras. It's just one mount. If it's Sony and mirrorless all the lenses will work.
I can do a bit better. How about an Olympus Pen e-pl3 and a Yongnuo 25mm autofocus. That can be had for $150 (the camera body) and the lens (about $100.00). Not a bad combination for $250!
Thanks for sharing (:
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 28-75 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
Nice topic. It's an old but capable camera and I think nothing beats the flexibility of changing lenses, even for very specific use cases it's great to have the option. If a5100 wasn't overpriced today, it could have been a killer alternative with much better AF, way more megapixels and such. Unfortunately prices go between 300$-500$, which is kinda crazy on the higher end. My only problem is colors with these little Sonys (or even the bigger ones). They rarely offer pleasant colors straight out of camera and always need a bit of tweaking. I would pay for a custom firmware that can let us tweak picture profiles like other Sonys, and I would sell my soul to have in camera film emulations.
thanks for sharing (:
are a5000 and a5100 equally good?
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
Thanks for this. Inspired me to take my old Sony A5000, and mount an Industar 69 28mm f2.8 on it. The Industar needs some adjustment so it can be focused to infinity, but that's an easy fix. There are a couple of YT videos showing how. You need an M39 to NEX adapter, which as adapters go might be the thinnest for E-mount. This lens is all manual, and nothing as sharp as modern lenses, but I consider that an interesting challenge and a plus. Tack sharpness can be overrated. The whole setup is very compact and pocketable, and above all fun to use. 😊
thanks for sharing. is it possible to see this setup of yours, how compact it is, how much it weighs (:
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I'm sure you can find the dimensions of the A5000 online. The distance from the camera body to the front of the kit lens is 30mm. This extends when you switch the camera on to shoot. With the Industar 69 & the M39 adapter you have a distance of 25mm to the lens front, which also extends slightly when focusing. I'd look out for a second hand 5000 complete with kit lens to get to know it. Then you can decide if you want to get the Industar 69.@photographer8486
@@JohnDevitt Are there no compact and good E-mount lenses?
Why go for such an old lens and then also use an adapter when we want a compact camera system?
This Industar 69 28mm f2 is not available anywhere in India so even if I had thought this was a good idea it wouldn't work (:
@@photographer8486 You could try the TT Artisans 25mm f2.0 APSC. Surprisingly great quality for the price, though it is manual focus.
That thing is nothing like the Ricoh GRiii , and comes no where near to the performance of the Ricoh . That’s why no one talks about it 😂.
Great idea… you could try an early Olympus PEN body with a body cap lens. More restrictive with a fixed f8.0 aperture, but more pocketable. No bad thing really, necessity breeds creativity. And would be easily half that budget :)
There are a few compact m43 lenses that would do the job , Pany 14mm F/2.5, Pany 20mm F/1.7 Olympus 17mm not as compact as your suggestion but lots more flexibility. I don't mind a combo being larger and my old GX8 with 20mm is by a mile my most used m43 gear
or simply an OMD 10 mark ii
So many options, thanks for sharing!
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Thanks for sharing (:
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 28-75 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
Great vid showing photography doesn't need to cost a fortune.
I was close to buying the Ricoh GR III but was put off by stories of dust issues - I think I was drawn in by the hype to be honest. In the end I bought a Nikon Z30 as a travel camera & it's a great piece of kit which produces good images - my other camera is a Nikon so everything was familiar. I have the kit zoom fitted but if I opted for the 24mm or 26mm it would not be dissimilar to the GR.
I can understand why the Ricohs & Fujis get such a cult following but there are other options.
A while ago I converted my old nex-3 to monochrome and added a 7artisans ufo. It's a lot of fun and this one fits in a pocket! A detail that you don't mention in your comparison is that the leaf shutters of cameras like the gr, x70 or x100 are completely silent, compared to the nex series. At least my model does not have an electronic shutter either, and stealth is a great plus point in this type of camera. Greetings!
Nice!
Wild, I almost bought an NEX-5 this week, but decided i should probably save my money since i already have a Lumix and Three Canon cameras 😅
I absolutely love the budget side of photography and video. Bang for the buck all the way! Dont let the capitalists tell you otherwise!
Wise decision!
With release of new sigma 10-18 f2.8 i can finally turn my zv-e10, which serves me as a backup, into more versatile ricoh gr iii. Great time to be alive for the photographers considered the amount of options you can combine and customize to your needs.
So many options!
I have a similar setup that "i got for my wife". A6000 with the tiny samyang 24 2.8. fits in a pocket. Nice change of pace from my heavy stuff
To be honest for size comparison and photo quality a rx100 Mark 1,2 or 3 is better and cheaper then the Ricoh GR 1,2,3 the real issue with GR is PRICE and quality they break easy and also have build quality issues !
Had both the NEX-5 and the GR...while the Sony takes perfectly fine photos it's not going to replicate a GR in terms of shooting in anyway.
A good vidro. Thanks for sharing. I used to have a nex 5. Its a pretty camera for beginners and does things quite well. I now use A6000. Personally, I'm not into mimicking the Ricoh or Fujifilm look. But find your own style.
Yeah definitely!
Thanks for sharing (:
I am looking for compact beginner everyday camera system to learn photography, develop a shooting habit, composition, playing around with manual settings etc. What are some good options? (optional: works well in low light, must: compact)
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 28-75 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office on weekdays. And on weekends any time.
I have a contender to throw in the mix. Lumix GM5 + Lumix 20mm f1.7. It is 30% lighter than NEX-5 at only 211g, offers shallower DoF, brighter aperture, 16.1mp, has an EVF and LCD screen, similar cost, has a FF equivalence of 40mm f3.4; lots of modern features like stop motion animation, remote control from phone, touchscreen, timelapse, AND has the best B&W profile 'l.monochrome'.
If that's too heavy, and you don't care about EVF, there's the GM1 at 205g.
GM5 is £500 or more if you can find one. GX800 might be a better option than a GM1 as the 20mm f1.7 sticks out the bottom of the body and it does feel a bit too small to hold. The GM1 is a lovely little thing though.
@@coxbright I bought one in black for £180 4 or 5 years ago. Sold it a few months ago for about £300.
@@LexTNeville Wow. That's stuff of dreams now. Cheapest one on eBay now is £699. Or there is a Japanese one for £530
George, you're going to cost me money! Better, though, you're going to make me get off the couch and go shoot some film, er, electrons, whatever. Tiny footnote: You've correctly noted that the NEX 5 with the 27mm has no stabilization. However, and it is a different mix, the Sony 35mm has optical stabilization built into the lens, with a most useful f/1.8 aperature to boot. Not bad! If I'm careful I can hand hold that combo down to 1/15 seconds, which makes an awful lot of nighttime shots possible.
And maybe that's the real bonus of these small APS-C and MFT cameras - you can make them very small, but you're not trapped there. Unlike the Ricohs (I do want) you can start with a small lens and then branch out from there once you've learned everything you can from the little one. Really enjoying, please keep it up!
I helped my friend bite the bullet on a NEX-5T w/ a bag, kit lens, sd card, & battery for $200 two days ago. The timing is insane amazing seeing this right now...
Nice!
Is it really a Ricoh GR alternative? If it's not as pocketable, then I would say no. Dimensions and weight shown for NEX 5 + 27mm is without the lens. Don't forget the user interface, the ease of use of the Ricoh GR is just miles ahead, I really didn't like the interface or UI of my NEX 5n. The GR lens is sharp, while the TTartisan lens is 'acceptable', which is ok because of its low price.
If you're on a budget, I would still save a little more money and get the original Ricoh GR and a wifi card adapter, then you pretty much have the same functionality as with the GR II for a lot less money.
From 2015-2017, I had a Sony NEX3N with 16-50mm lens. Took some awesome shots with it. Also used Canon 50mm 1.8 lens with Commlite adapter. The awesome part was the NEX3N only cost me $70 on eBay! Fun times!
No one talks about it because this isn't close to a GR form factor. The Ricoh is much smaller.
Lol
Almost is not 100%!
sorry, this setup might be cool, and great for a beginner, but it highly neglects what makes a GRIII (or x) so amazing.
- GR lens ist not a 40mm/2,8 lens, it's a fucking sharp 40mm/2,8 lens. The pictures it takes are ridiculously good for it's size. a Fuji Lens of this quality costs 500€, a sony one probably 800€
- the difference between being almost pocketable and being pocketable, is very often the difference between taking a picture with your camera or your phone. This camera is always in my bag, no other camera ever was.
- the one-handed manual controls are thought through, the interface was thought through. it was made for professional, one handed action... the sony NEX series was not... not even Fuji is good at this. the snap focus feature will train you to take pictures with your legs instead of autofocus.
- but Fuji and Ricoh are good at other things, like regular feature updates and great inbody JPEG engine... (and an interface that doesn't want to make you kill yourself) photographers don't give love to sony, because sony doesn't give love to photographers... that's one reason this shiny shit brick costs 200-300€ and a Fuji x-e2 still costs +500€
If you use the 7artisans 18mm ufo body cap lens that camera would be truly pocketable
I keep watching these old sony e mounts on auction sites for these reasons but yikes! Prices are crazy right now. Great video!
Yep they are! Some go very cheap so worth investing in some lenses too
I had an nex-5 to get my daughters shooting, but the screen died then the cable connection broke trying to replace it. Now it just sits on the shelf looking sad until I can find another one.
That's very sad, get entered into the giveaway! Maybe we can replace that for you
It’s interesting to know about the 3rd mysterious lens, 🤗 Thanks a bunch!
Hopefully can share soon (it's not even out yet)
interesting, I’ll wait impatiently, it sounds very tempting @@GeorgeHolden
great video. 39 mm filters are easy to find.