Fifth Gear: Shoot Out Audi S5 Coupe Vs KIA Stinger GT S
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2018
- It’s a shoot-out between the Audi S5 Coupe Vs KIA Stinger GT S.
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Even though I'm an Audi fan but, It would have been a fair competition if it was the s5 sportback !!! Not coupe,
UMMM THE KIA IS A 4-DR NOT A COUPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In the last few years, the 4-door coupe has practically become a segment all its own. Technically speaking, there’s no such thing, but you know how marketing buzzwords can create something out of nothing. Put simply, a 4-door coupe is a sedan that’s styled to look more like a 2-door vehicle, often accomplished by featuring design elements such as blacked-out B-pillars and raked rooflines to more closely resemble the sleeker, more athletic look of a true coupe
@@chucknorris5141 A coupe still keep some advantages in terms of specs. A sportback would be more heavy, longer etc ... which would affect Its performances. So the sportback vs Stinger is more fair, and I think maybe the winner on track would be different !
Nonsense comparative. Why not a S5 Sportback?
The reason I disliked this video
Nonsense question. Does sportback version changes anything?)))
The sportback is about 90lb heavier and the wheelbase is 2.4" longer. Overall length is also longer which maaaybe affects weight distributions as well.
Not to mention the fact that if you want to compare cars in a similar price range with the options you have to put the Stinger against a fully loaded A5 sportback, which it will absolutely crush in a hotlap. A comparably equipped S5 Sportback is ~$15k more than a Stinger Gt2. Buy a Stinger drop $5k on full bolt ons, and for $10k less it demolishes the S5 (Intake, Exhaust, and HFC downpipes/mid pipes setups are gaining nearly 100wheel horsepower).
@Alexander Campbell Bolt ons don't void warranties, as long as you don't do something dumb like a piggy back tune you will still have basically a full warranty. And with the Kia that warranty is for 10 years and 100k miles, unlike the garbage 3 year 30k mile warranty you get on an Audi. There is a reason no one buys Audis, nearly all of their business comes from leasing, owning an Audi out of warranty is the same as holding a semi-annual bonfire to burn all the money in your bank account.
Issues with commentary:
1) Host states that he wants to turn off the last remaining stability controls on the Audi but can’t.... but then chooses to keep the Kia’s on and complain about it. He could have turned Kia’s off but chose not to.
2) Host states that Kia is starting to dip their toes in the “super Coupe market”.... Kia is a 4 door grand tourer. Are you blind!
Fifth gear have lost credibility in my eyes.
Jason Plato was commenting on the Stinger's stability program. He wanted to point out that it is inferior to other cars on the market, outdated. I have no idea how Kia fangirl lunatics managed to transform this into "HURR DURR!!! HE WON'T TURN THE ESP OFF! BIAS!"
JAnx01 you are wrong.
Listen between 1:34 to 1:45. He is referring to the Audi.
Love Kia Fangirl x
@@crikeyrob And?
It's clear it's a paid biased review ..
The issue with Stinger owners is they think the kia can beat every car on the market they hate losing or being called out for flaws. Every car has it’s pros and cons and has a car faster and nicer car that beats it just life .
The Kia isn't even a coupe.
It's a Grand Coupe
@@pandu213 that's a bs marketing word. Tell me, how is it not a sedan but the Tesla Model S is?
@@ZesPak I suppose it's up for interpretation
If the CLS is, then this is as well
A coupe can only have 2 doors...
That review was very biased to begin with... whether the car selection, coupe vs 4 door fastback, the complaining about the stability control on the Kia? you can actually turned that off, so why didn't you? It seems like he had his mind made up before even going into the test. The Kia isn't a better car, but it presents more fun, which has been agreed upon by most journalists. It's not some serious track monster. It's a GT car, all the better for it for the road. It can even do big slides with the RWD model. "7k" cheaper but it's fully loaded with every option you can think of. So in fact it's much cheaper, since nobody ever buys a S5 with zero options.
I pointed this out 5 hours before you did. Why do you get all the likes whereas so get 0? And however biased the Fifth Gear comparison is, it's nowhere near as biased as this shit:
ruclips.net/video/sPD1joDOlLo/видео.html
AMCII 'for sale' testing is fake.
What journalists? This is the first time somebody compared it to an S5.
JAnx01 that’s false. Compared to a s5 this is probably the 3rd one I’ve seen. There’s a couple against the 440i as well. So far it’s been quite close, with the Kia winning in overall value and fun, while the the S5 wins in timed tests.
Jason Plato was commenting on the Stinger's stability program. He wanted to point out that it is inferior to other cars on the market, outdated. I have no idea how Kia fangirl lunatics managed to transform this into "HURR DURR!!! HE WON'T TURN THE ESP OFF! BIAS!"
Honfy Lam you sound salty as hell. The Kia got its ass kicked by the Audi; seems like you’re just a sore loser 🤷🏼♂️
As an owner of a A5 I give kudos to Kia for producing a great looking performance car. I like the looks of it. The fact that it’s 2 secs behind the S5 means nothing to me because neither cars were designed for the track. Fifth gear give us a proper comparison, S5 sportback vs Stinger on the roads, instead of this useless review.
It's simple if they did any other objective review the outcome would be worse for the Kia!!! Take the hit ;-)
@@changounchained2648 Not really! Simply, because the Stinger is fully equipped in GT version. While the audi, you still need to pay 15 to 20k more to get the same. And come on, we all know the audi will be most of the time aside the road waiting the towing truck !
@@djorksolo8544 Audis reliability isnt that bad (I have an A5 coupe myself) but you are right - you do really get a lot of extra goodies in the GT and have to pay for the nose for them as audis optional extras
@@francistaylor1822 Here in Australia, you need twice the cash to buy the Audi compared to the Kia. And that for me was a no brainer. I ended up buying the Stinger, more standard goodies, and a seven year unlimited KM warranty. Let's see Audi give you that warranty.
@@marcolucchini8173 Im not disagreeing, I am also in Australia and am looking at buying one myself (first new car ever) but waiting till 2021 version as i really want the 360 camera, blind spot camera and 0+ cruise control.
With £7 grand in my pocket I don't mind being a couple of seconds late.
That's the thing. You don't buy a Hyundai/Kia because it's the best car in its class. You buy it because it's the cheapest. And that's not something to be proud of,if you ask me. It's cheaper,because it's worse and not just on the race track.
Latvietis96 Calling a car that advanced a shitbox is like calling Austria shit because cost of living is lower than Denmark, it's not like it's lacking HUD, leather electric seats, ,lane departure warning, adaptive cruise contrl etc. But for 7K less and with a RAWD or RWD car instead of an FAWD I think I'd be much happier.
Latvietis96 "For only 7K more". The price of a badge and the cost of snobbism.
von Coconut the Audi is better hands down. Everyone knows Audi is a luxury brand, Kia is not. Guess I’m a badge snob 😂.
Latvietis96. Certainly there's truth in the old adage, "You get what you pay for." And so it follows that incremental increases in cost usually, but not always, tend to provide incremental improvements, however finite, relating to a service or product in a like for like situation. In this instance the quality and performance are closely matched in such a way the that commentary on the cost saving is crucial as was witnessed during the emergence of Toyota and Datsun, later called Nissan, many years ago that were then referred to also as 'shit boxes'; not so today.
The successes of Korean automotive industries have increased the quality and value of their products exponentially during the past few years and are already a force to be reckoned with together with their five-year warranty. Already manufactures such as Ford have effectively ceased car production in America. Few people in the world would sniff at the saving of £7 grand.
Dont they make a a5 fastback 4door? How about you bring that to the fight, ya dopes
lol; that one has 365bhp; so stick that up yuor pipes =D
and you're hopeful towards a 2 second deficit????????? lmao, it's not exactly 0.5sec fella # deluded =D
@@netweed09 then why didn't they use it? Because they know. I own an audi A8 so I'm no Kia groupie. 4 doors should compare to 4 doors simple as that. 4 doors is not a coupe no matter what you or they say. The the 4 door audi weight makes that much of difference?
netweed09 Even if the S5 Fastback wins, the margin would be smaller, possibly under 1 second difference, which brings the question: is the 7000 price difference justified?
@@jamesc8708 simple answer HELL NO! and the Kia looks better.
@@netweed09 P.W.R maybe you don't know what it means as an empty audi fanboy !
S5 coupe is lighter, has shorter wheel base than S5 sportback ( 5 door ) so it makes it faster and more nimble. So its cheating Besides KiA Stinger same equipped is 25.000 pounds cheaper than Audi S5 sportback . So its cheating again. Big minus
Stinger is 7k cheaper than Audi A5 with no equipment 😀
Everyone is doing this kind of comparison nowadays with all sorts of cars. I wouldn't say biased, but unfair. Think Carwow. Matt did a 5 car comparison and had the new 3 series m sport. But then promptly started to compare the base spec with the other cars and said the BMW through carwow was one of the cheapest. His review car was over £10k more!
@@kikerkovski I have an A5 and theres a reason that the Stinger is the car im looking at for its replacement.
Oh c'mon Mr. Jason, here's how to do it in the Stinger GT:
1- Set the driving mode in Sport+ (europe only)
2- Hold the traction control button until you see "Traction & Stability control disabled" (about 5 seconds, otherwise you'll just get "Traction Control disabled")
3- the easy-peasy part for you - Drive it properly and have fun.
Already knew those dbags at 5thgear would muck up the comparison. No way they're going to boast anything positive twards a KIA with an Audi competitor (still only 2 sec off) dbags. Guy can't even turn off stability/assist on the Kia. What a pretentious baffoon.
He was doing a like for like comparison. That's fair. What isn't fair is he could have had the Stinger in fun mode and said that the Quattro is even more dull.
Let's put Tiff in both with stability off in the Kia and see what he'd prefer. Oh wait, you can't. You dropped the only good thing about 5th Gear. Congrats, you just made your shitty program even more irrelevant
Coupes? one is a coupe the other is a sedan
Sportback*
In the last few years, the 4-door coupe has practically become a segment all its own. Technically speaking, there’s no such thing, but you know how marketing buzzwords can create something out of nothing. Put simply, a 4-door coupe is a sedan that’s styled to look more like a 2-door vehicle, often accomplished by featuring design elements such as blacked-out B-pillars and raked rooflines to more closely resemble the sleeker, more athletic look of a true coupe
Sorry, but I own a sporty sedan (Giulia Quadrifoglio) and no one has ever called it a coupe.
Barry,
"a two-box sedan, with continuous slope from the roof to the base of the decklid (trunk lid), but excludes the hatchback feature. Marketing terminology is often misleading in this area - for example, Daimler AG incorrectly calls the Mercedes-Benz CLS-Class sedan a four-door coupé because its semi-fastback design tries to give the impression of a coupé."
Sedans have 4 doors. The Stinger has 5.
The Kia stinger is highly underrated but he s5 is just an amazing car as well
Underrated? The hype surrounding the Stinger is so massive, aliens in another galaxy must be able to detect it. Pretty strange when you consider the F30 BMW 3-series a model that has been around since 2011 is a better handling, smoother riding car.
Audi is just overpriced and they may put some cheating programs and do some human experiments like vw.
the kia can do the same time even after 5 years where the audi will need a new gearbox
losteffekt My A5 likes a drink but it’s not excessive. I topped it up once with a quart of oil in 12 months so it’s not terrible my sister had 2 mk 6 GTi’s with the same engine and it didn’t consume any oil between services. The Audi has been very reliable on the 2 years I’ve had it it’s a 2013 with 62k miles. Much better than my 335i.
@@bondedstars Seems you floor it everytime. Have driven an A4 with a turbo for a decade and no oil issues
I learned literally nothing about the Stinger from that piece.
JFCW bunch of European propaganda
I did. He's got a whopper of a nose.
Well, it's obviously a piece of overpriced trash that's _2 whole seconds_ slower than a sporty Audi.
So yea - it's best you didn't, lol!
Why not compare it vs the Audi S5 Sportback so they are at least similar?? It will also be almost the same exact weight??
?? Lol, did you even watch the video?! 😂
You must know absolutely _nothing_ about cars otherwise! 2 extra doors on an S5 Sportback are no way going to overturn the _2 seconds_ of speed loss the K!a had. That's even ignoring a possible power-boost tune Audi can easily spec in. I'd stop being toxic and take the L humbly.
@@netweed09 FOUR years later...LOL!!
@@ctk4949 I know; just _how_ Great and mudded will the K!a be vs the *Newer* S5??? Looool - I couldn't bear to watch if I was a K!a fanboy!! the embarrassment! Manybe 3.4 seconds behind this time! 🤣
@@netweed09 Geez sorry I cannot understand anything you just said... Thanks!! lol
@@ctk4949 You don't have to! Just keep backing the losing car as you wish - goodnite!
Australia is using the Stinger as a police car to replace the old Commodores. Imagine if the rest of the world did the same. 😂
haha getting big crimals in the back seats will be hard
@@enqane That's why they invented paddy wagons.
Oh, giving up your own kind? Commodore is cool car.
enqane Here in Australia cops just break their legs to make crims fit in the back easier.
@@campkira Yes it is. Sad that GM mucked up the Holden brand.
I'm not one to normally comment but this was a really stupid comparison. And the bias towards Audi was so obvious it was shameful. Clearly these guys can't be trusted reviewing cars.
Thank you for saying it!!!
Plato’s reviews are always biased. You always know which way they’ll go before even watching it.
Biased towards what? He called the S5 dull, wasn't a fan of the Stinger either.
JAnx01 toward the S5, another commenter wrote this out better than i can be bothered to so:
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'That review was very biased to begin with... whether the car selection, coupe vs 4 door fastback, the complaining about the stability control on the Kia? you can actually turned that off, so why didn't you? It seems like he had his mind made up before even going into the test. The Kia isn't a better car, but it presents more fun, which has been agreed upon by most journalists. It's not some serious track monster. It's a GT car, all the better for it for the road. It can even do big slides with the RWD model. "7k" cheaper but it's fully loaded with every option you can think of. So in fact it's much cheaper, since nobody ever buys a S5 with zero options.''
KarlosBricks
"That review was very biased to begin with... whether the car selection, coupe vs 4 door fastback?"
I was the first commenter to point this out, you don't have to parrot that back at me. The real reason behind this isn't bias, it's that when you're on a budget, you film with cars you have at a given day, not with cars that you wish you'd have.
"the complaining about the stability control on the Kia? you can actually turned that off, so why didn't you? It seems like he had his mind made up before even going into the test"
1. Plato was commenting on the Stinger's stability program. He wanted to point out that it is inferior to other cars on the market, outdated. I have no idea how Kia fangirl lunatics managed to transform this into "HURR DURR!!! HE WON'T TURN THE ESP OFF! BIAS!"
2. The gearbox bogs the engine down and some people have confused it with ESP intervention.
"The Kia isn't a better car, but it presents more fun, which has been agreed upon by most journalists."
"It can even do big slides with the RWD model."
Anything with RWD and nearly 400 hp is going to be fun to drive. Many of those journalists also called its handling "sloppy".
"It's not some serious track monster. It's a GT car, all the better for it for the road."
If it's a GT car, then every powerful sedan ever is a GT car.
The point stands. Plato called many bad things about the Audi, yet Kia fangirl lunatics only name the negatives he said about the Kia when trying to prove how biased this comparison is.
It just a benchmark man. we all know it will be slower.
@@JAnx01 as a brand new stinger owner I get your points. The stability control for sure. However comparing the two cars in same conditions is one thing. Ignoring something that one of the cars can do to make it better/more fun is something else.
Put it this way, I know which car Tiff would pick. So fuck you 5th Gear for dropping him.
But I didn't pick the Stinger or any car on something I'd never do with it. I picked the Stinger because it does everything I need on roads for tens of thousands less than an S5 with the same kit
2 door vs 4 door really
Why are you guys comparing it to the S5 coupe instead of the sportback? We all know that the coupe is lighter than the sportback, so of course it's faster.
You know nothing. Lol, shaving off a few pounds is not gonna shave off the 2 seconds. _2 seconds._
Stop crying & being a based underdog shill: the Big Name takes this one.Go home.
Ive test driven both these cars and I can tell you 100% the audi is worth every penny more. The interior fit and finish, the way the car drives and sounds, how the transmission shifts instantly absolutely dominates the Kia. These things matter more in everyday driving than 2 seconds faster and the audi wins in thousands of seconds here in my book.
Irrelevant. I can't afford the S5 with the same quipment. But I can afford a car that's damn close to it. And not be bent over when it's service time. Or after 3 year warranty is up.
If I could afford the audi I would buy it. But I can't but I want this sized car, speed and specs so.....
You should repeat the test with ESP switched off in the Kia. I own one in Australia and disabling the ESP also stops the brakes grabbing for no reason because its actually fully off unlike in the overpriced and unreliable Audi.
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Jason Plato was commenting on the Stinger's stability program. He wanted to point out that it is inferior to other cars on the market, outdated. I have no idea how Kia fangirl lunatics managed to transform this into "HURR DURR!!! HE WON'T TURN THE ESP OFF! BIAS!"
@@JAnx01 I previously owned a D4 Audi A8 4.2L TT TDI. Trust me when I tell you its overpriced and unreliable. Every service was 4 figures minimum!! It's not even as good as a Ford Performance Vehicles F6E (Australia only)
@Harry Fishnuts
"To devote a whole comparison just on this on a track is waste of time and effort."
He wasted exactly 8 seconds talking about the Stingers ESP. It was just a passing comment and you're right, people usually don't drive with ESP on, on a race track, that's why it is ESP is important for road driving and the viewers deserve to know.
Did you watch the whole episode when you're saying the comparison is limited to just to a track, btw.?
@@LawrenceAbramoff
I thought this thread was about the Stinger's ESP.
I still th8nk kia did a very great job
it is enough to know that Albert Biermann behind engineering that stinger. The name of this guy scares a lot of the competitors.
Why are Europeans so hard on Kia? In the States, there are so many rave reviews for the Stinger. There seems to be much more brand snobbery in Europe.
The Stinger is MUCH more expensive in the EU as it is a car that is imported from outside the EU = tariffs, IIRC.
I live in Northern Europe and the fully loaded kia is 70k euro, the Audi S5 sportback goes towards 100k euro. Easy choice if you're not a brand snob.
Because people in European do have friend and they make more money than States. Korean car are not cheap. Some come with lifetime warranty just to get people to be interest in buying it.
appearances and flaunting your social status is very important in europe. badge snobbery is extremely important.
@@TassieLorenzo it's actually not cheaper. The GT2 in the US is $51K with the same equipment as our GT-S. That's around £44k. The GT-S is cheaper
kia with the extra 7.000 it can have 600hp and a body kit..and the service for 10 years..lol
It would cost less than 7K of tuning to make it on par with the S5
@@simondr70 around £500. But bye bye warranty. I wouldn't trust Kia denying anything to not honor the warranty. They ain't stupid. But I'll ask when mine gets delivered.
@@invisiblekid99 no bye bye warranty... Simple tune for 5-600 bucks and the KIA will beat it... Hell, with about 1500 bucks you can make this car a BEAST!!!! Warranty still intact!! How do I know.. I own one and eat s5 in my sleep... Along with all the v8 cars... Not joking...
Why the hate on the Stinger? Almost everybody else has given a positive review. It's exactly the sort of car that a petrolhead who can't afford an M3 or C63 would want to own.
That said I'd still choose the S5. Because its simply a better car.
The 340i is better than either of them.
It's a paid biased review it's clear ..
@@JAnx01 of course it is.
comparing a 2 door car vs a sportback car. Wonder how long they will last AGAIN?
2 sec for £7k that's a bargain!
It's not; and not all A5's are that exact price, clue??
Yes it is. Especially if you're an F1 driver, having a F1 race.
the 7k figure comparison is misleading. A top-of the range Stinger GT S is 45.5K, the audi's base price is 48.9K
No matter how much more refined an Audi is, I doubt you'll consider paying 3K more for a FWD based car with fewer mod-coms
@@karlosbricks2413 bro s4 is barely cheaper than the stinger and more practixal than the s5.
@@karlosbricks2413 it’s not fwd based
Once you spec the S5 to same options as the Kia, it’s actually £58k !!!!
Yes you can buy a base S5 for £47, but when you compare to the Stinger for £41 you get every options Audi overcharge for!
Yep for journos this is always glossed over. Carwow are bastards for it. "Buy this stinger for £41K or this S5 for £47K AND get a bigger discount through carwow, hmmmm.“ No. I want the goodies and if you think I'm buying them for £17K more, your insane.
See it all the time. Then go to real world reviews on RUclips and it's a different story.
I see a coupe vs a sedan, wtf are they on about lol
They’re both great cars, in a country where the maximum speed is 70mph on a motorway I’d probably keep the £7000 & grab an extra 4 years warranty
Well, your loss then! Some things are worth the extra payload. You're losing $20000 for what cred? Nothing.
It may be £7K cheaper but I bet the residuals for the Kia are not good. Posher badges often make financial sense.
I was so disappointed with the whole show. Lap times for these cars are so irrelevant. Like wearing Wellingtons to run 100m. Very poor and rushed segment.
The Kia is not meant to be a track car with hard dynamics in the 1st place
4:07 So how much did Audi pay you for this BS? The S5 in the video is a 2 door coupé. Why not use the S5 SportBack against the Kia Stinger?
This comparison is flawed for that very reason.
Jan 21, I did some quick research in my area. 2020 new Kia stinger(4 door) is $52800 fully loaded, and a 2019 4 door Audi S5 sportback(4 door) is $73900. That is a $21000 difference for a 2 second lead on a racetrack that I have never taken my Kia to. I have also never taken my V8 Audi A6 to a racetrack either. This fool is comparing cars at a racetrack when people will only visit a track not even 1% of the time they own the car for. I could totally live with that 2 second deficit(on something that I will never use) and save over 20 grand.
But remember its 7K less with a lot more standard equipment, so you can forgive the stinger been a bit slower.
Well didn't the guy from Audi move to Kia some years ago, hence all the Kia's looking like Audi's last few years?
Even in the grand tour during the second season James may had reviewed this car and had came out very impressed but this guy Jason was completely biased toward the Audi and why the hell didn't he turn off the TC which he could in the the stinger that would have given him more control of the car to himself
The last S5 also had 6 cylinders!
Here we go brand snobbery coming in
This isnt a fair review - its a track shoot out and not a fair comparison and should have been posted as such - theres a reason that there are so many dislikes vs how may likes of this video.
Is this rwd stinger or awd? Huge weight difference.
How is the Stinger a coupe? it's clearly a 4 door making a sedan or Saloon (for Brits).
4 o clock tea saloon that is, hear hear lad ..
It's a liftback
How can the show continue here but not on tv?
Real brand snob i must say. From the outset, he already had his “race”!
? A little bit upset over there now? The Audi won the race, fair & square. So when the better Brand proves it's worth - it's judged as ''snobbery'' now?? 😂
Really rich & ironic coming from you. So salty - calm down some time!
Nice nice glad to own a b9 s5 myself , was Def on fence for Stinger but the name, fit and finish sold me over , this test is fun but wouldn't make my choice only solidify it.
In every review or comparison from Fifth Gear, something doesn't line up, either you don't compare the right models/variants, either you use different drivers in each car for the lap times. WHY DO YOU EVEN BOTHER ANYMORE?
was this kia an AWD stinger or a rear wheel drive stinger?
RWD. We can only get the RWD in the UK.
nice end card of white boxes there youtube team. was it made by kia?
A coupe vs a sedan. Unfair
Only an Idiot will buy an S5 which costs 25.000,- Euro more (in Germany) as a Kia Stinger because of 2 seconds on the track 😂
Why do some car programmes mix metric with imperial eg bhp and Nm as opposed to bhp and ft lb or kw and nm...?
UK uses bhp for power but Nm for torque. They mix the metric and imperial system.
How the fuck is it only 7k cheaper, here in Australia we cop the luxury car tax which brings the audi to $110k and Kia stinger to $65k
England is 22 miles from France and you don't know that the "e" in Coupe is silent?
Pfsif no it isn’t, the e in coup é is not silent, unless you are a thick yank.
It's coupé. It's definitely not silent.
Can u guys make a review between audi s5 vs amg c43...
The 0 to 60 for the s5 is wrong, it’s about 4.2. Did you even test it lol
sorry 5th gear...you lose with your obvious bias towards the Audi...its soooi obvious...other outfits have them even or Kia kicking Audi in the keister
Biased before the review started. Great job Stinger
Why not compare it to the S5 sportback 🤷🏾♂️
Look at his body posture when driving the KIA, didn’t even try to push the car.
Why wouldn't you get the Audi with the sport package???? You get magnetic adjustable dampers, and more importantly the sport rear differential that actively torque vectors. Shame to see the black brake calipers on a prestige, but no sport package.....sad
Is the Kia AWD or rwd?
Both - US and Europe have AWD, some markets like UK only have rwd which is what they reviewed here.
Wait. Why leave the stability control on with the stinger? I thought it can be switched off? Of course it would be slower and lumpy to drive then
The KIA is a heavy GT car, it's not designed to be fast around a track.
It really doesn't take much tuning to make it on par with the Audi , do your homework ..
Pretty sure Motor Trend got a fat cheque from Kia, because they couldn't stop singing its praises but every other publication writes that it falls apart on the track.
A few years ago, this brand snob didn't even consider a Kia as a contender, but now he is comparing it with Audi S5!!
Comparing apples and oranges. A whole 2 seconds slower? Well it's a whole 7 grand cheaper too mate and the whole world knows which figure is more important.
This show is still on?
Yes and now without Tiff so it's utterly pointless to watch.
I hate to correct Plato but the old S5 also had 6 cylinders. A 3.0l V6 but supercharged not turbocharged.
Perhaps he was thinking about the pre-facelift. That had a V8
They forgot to mention the comfortably on every day driving different in between this two cars. Of course if you put a stiffer suspension its gonna do better on the track but not many buy this cars to take em to the track. S5 got stinged in any aspect, Price practicality room design etc... besides the track and thats because Stinger has softer suspension being more comfortable car. This guys just can’t get over the badge of the Stinger that’s the problem here.
Although nicking a top chassis engineer from BMW is definitely a cheaper option, Kia have to go racing to develop the breed.
Price wise ?
2 seconds behind the Audi and he says “Kia still has an AWFUL lot of catching up to do” lmao okay
Bulls••t! 4 door vs coupe you can't compare, liars from the beginning.
I'm pretty sure the Audi is supercharged, not turbocharged. I remember because they call it the 3.0T, which is misleading.
Current gen is turbocharged. Facelift of the previous gen was supercharged.
Interesting. I have a new RS5 which I regret buying. I waited 5 months for it. While waiting I took out two other new cars at the Audi dealership a TT RS and an RS3. If I were to reorder an Audi I would take the RS3 and save thousands doing so.
Whats wrong with the rs5? Or u just talking about a higher price tag , for similar performance to the rs3?
@@2Wheeligniter I didn't like the 8 speed automatic transmission.
@@seinsmeld13 whats wrong with it? People are saying it shifts seem less and very fast shifts
@@2Wheeligniter I referred a dual clutch so I traded it for my RS3. Thats all I can say.
The problem is this kinda shows try to judge by only performance. It should be just one of the aspects, not the only aspect to review cars. I'm not willing to pay $20,000 more for 2 extra seconds on a track. OK. S5 is 2 seconds faster, means that higher chance its suspension setting is firmer than Stinger 'GT' which also means S5's harsh ride on the public road.
Also you Muppets should've turned esc completely off (you hold traction control button for about 5-8 seconds). Also with the sport rear diff it's actually quite playful in the rear when you want it to (with esc OFF)
Why would you compare two cars that are so far apart in price??? Any car that is 30-35% more money than another should be substantially better. And who the hell buys one of these to go to the track?? They should compare the Stinger to an A5 sport back and do it for daily driving conditions. The Stinger isn't quite as refined as the Audi but its still cheaper than even an A5 (at least here in Canada) and way more powerful and likely way cheaper to maintain and repair
When you compare price you should also put on cost on equipment, we know with German everything is an extra
The Audi sport back S5 is 186 inches long and weighs 3900 pounds. This KIA GT is not even the AWD driver version which is quicker to 60 at 4.4 secs. A coupe is going to be smaller and weighs lighter than his 4 door counterpart.
Wow you just compared a grand coupe with a 4 door fastback with a straight face... and didn’t even turn off the stability control... what happened to your credibility?
The stinger isn't a coupe it's a full size sedan in line with an Opel Insignia
It's quite interesting that in many many car magazines and RUclips channels they put the Kia as a great sports coupe... And tough this guy says he doesn't like it...
mario rivas I couldn’t agree more with your comment, the amount of reviews for the stinger that don’t point out any negatives is just crazy, all cars have positives and negatives but as soon as someone says a bad word about this car all the flogs come out.
I don't get why he didn't turn off the ESP in the Stinger. Just because the Audi doesn't let you do that? Silly!
Shows 4 doors says coupe anyway lol
@fifth gear. now test the g70 as its lighter and more tuned for sport. lets see result
The biggest difference in in the reliability, while the Audi will suffer multiple faults the Kia will be reliable!
don't compare an Audi to a Kia.. ever.. please...
2 seconds is alot of catching up to do??
lol !
in Australia the price of the S5 is more than double the Kia. Better bang for buck.
why front plate white but back plate yellow?
The frantic switching between camera angles every 1.5 seconds in parts is disorienting and unpleasant -- please tone that down in future videos!
Audi S cars are insanely powerful for their price and sophistication. The S3 and RS3 are particularly good value.
I love the Kia Stinger GT but nobody would pick it over an S5
Lol. Every owner picked a Stinger over the S5
I did 😂
For those moaning - there’s an episode of Fifth Gear where the Kia Pro Ceed GT goes up against the ‘best’ hot hatch of the time - the Megane RS. Everyone loves the Kia including the guy in this video, and the comments are very, very positive considering it’s Kia’s first effort. Everyone’s entitled to an opinion.....until it disagrees with your own eh?
Y the fuck would u compare a 2 door coupe to a 4 door hatchback. How r the similar?..?
I used to drive 3.3 rwd of those and I agree that the car doesn't feel as nimble or well balanced like its german counterparts. That said, it is a nice car to cruise on a motorway. Shame that`s all it`d for the value of money