Everyone on the internet doesn’t believe or understand how quick that 10 speed makes the 5.0. We’re talking about multiple car lengths of difference in a top end roll from 60-120
It's not just the 10-speed transmission though, The modern Coyote engine just pulls really hard up top. Plus, it has quite a bit more peak power than both of these.
As a gt owner it irratated me how the guy didn't drops gears properly on the roll racing😭 most likely didn't even have it in drag as well so it would've been worse for the other cars
I have a 2018 S5 and its pretty quick stock. Had some races on the highway with a q60rs other day and it was super close! Edged him out by a nose but I was super impressed with both cars. Props to whoever the guy was in the q60 thanks for the fun races my guy!
New Mustangs are so insanely impressive. There’s a fuck ton of hate and bandwagon shit surrounding Mustangs, it honestly covers up just how incredible modern stangs are. 460 HP from a 5.0 V8, only weighs 3,700 And a 10 speed transmission. Dude with a tune and a couple little mods I know for a fact a newer Mustang GT is a fucking monster. Absolute best bang for your buck. Charger and challenger RTs at the same price are dogshit. 370 horsepower from a bigger engine 😂😂😂 and theyre a fuck ton heavier. Scat packs is where Dodge starts to keep up with the 5.0, but for a good bit more money. Camaros aren’t bad per say, 455 hp from a 6.2 is still somehow worse than the 5.0. The coyote is just too much of a masterpiece of engineering for anyone to touch it I guess. Also Camaro SS’s are still more expensive than the GT for some reason, there is the LT1 sure but it’s missing a lot including tires. And GT500’s smoke Hellcats with again a smaller engine that makes more horsepower lmaoooo. Im just saying Ford knows their shit when it comes to performance. The rights to the Shelby name aren’t just for show.
@@TheVolsfan12345 no you havent! Mayby scat packs you guys crack me up just had another guy tell Subaru sti walking hell cats. Pssst.lmao 500 h.p. mayby for a mustang fbo tune hell cats are 707 h.p. stock. Sorry man but your high!
@@s5roze you gotta sit more upright. If you took racing class your sitting position will be corrected for sure. You’ll run out of arm trying a manuever your car on a tight turn or just avoiding a car like a moose test.
it's great to see how well the Q60 is holding up despite the age of the platform. One thing I really prefer about the Q to the Audi is that it has a 60 degree V6, whereas the Audi is a 90 degree (since it's a V8 with two cylinders cut off). I think I also prefer the turbochargers to be on the outside of the cylinder banks instead of the hot V/reverse flow heads...it's strikes me as ungood that the turbocharger is in the valley of two cylinder banks over the long run, but I suppose that can be compensated with via coolant and oil flow.
Hot V makes the turbo spool faster and the heat generated is very negligible with cooling. The hot V also allows for better response and less turbo lag.
@@q6_zilla yeah they are radically different engines despite both being simplified down to 3.0T. Although I'm not personally a fan of 90 degree V6s, they do at least have the advantage of a lower center of gravity relative to 60 degree V6s and inline sixes, which given Audi's requisite true-Quattro layout where the engine has to be fully in front of the front axle, this probably counts more than it would in a non-Audi car.
I'm the owner of a B9 2018 S5, tuned. I LOVE the layout of the engine. The Turbo sitting in the V makes a ton of sense, IMO. I've had two Mitsubishi 3000 GT VR4's in the early 2000's and I've dealt with other turbo vehicles as well. For the most part - all the Turbo's are usually placed right next to an exhaust header. Isn't that literally the HOTTEST place for one? Not to mention you can barely turn a nut (relating to a turbo) on most of these other cars due to their location (next to the firewall! WTF!)
@@phaZed9 Being right on the exhaust manifold is indeed very hot; you can only imagine how hot it would be in between two exhaust manifolds. As others have pointed out, you can engineer around this; turbochargers are inherently hot already, being that we run exhaust through them, and yet they can have long lifespans. The more difficult thing is the 90 degree V6 layout; that's just inherently rougher than the 60 degree V6 layout. The engineering solutions to that are limited, and generally create additional drag on the engine, usually in the instance of specialized balance shafts. This is why the EA839 is livable in the real world, but there is a cost to efficiency/power. I think, at heart, that may be my biggest problem with the EA839; it's the product of cost cutting. The hot V has weaknesses, but it also has advantages, and we can argue about which is better. But the 90 degree V6 design is consistently the product of cutting two cylinders off of a V8 because it was too expensive to develop a dedicated V6 engine, and that just irks me. Jaguar does it too (although Jaguar, in their characteristic Jaguar way, does it much more cheaply and brutally than Audi/Porsche) and that's also why I didn't buy a supercharged V6 F-Type. Still, it's always worth keeping in perspective that these are obscure engineering issues that are of much greater concern to engine nerds than of real drivers. In the real world, the EA839 is a very good, if not quite great, engine.
agreed although HP and torque numbers are only a part of the story. How quick the HP and TQ are obtained is the other part and with a Turbo both cars get full torque below 3000 RPMs while the Mustang needs more revving, that's why it catches up later every time. AWD is also a great traction aid when taking off from a standstill but on a rolling race it proved not helpful.
The s5 with a basic ecu tune gets over 420hp and goes 0-60 in under 4 seconds and it would of beat both. It’s amazing that even stock with way less hp it’s this close lol. Over 100 less hp and it almost beat the mustang😂 a basic tune and it would of smoked it.
@@luisinhoens90 yeah but it’s still just a mustang bro lol. No where near as nice or sexy and the interior is 1000 times worse. Also you can get a used 3-5 year old Audi s5 with low miles for around 35-40k.
I have so much fun as you can imagine. Plus I appreciate the fact that I get lined up against some serious cars that are clearly faster than my cars. If I'm always racing lesser cars on the totem pole how do I know where the car needs improvement (and objectively direct future performance mods in that direction) and of course to Sam for the invite and AND repping my clothing brand.
@@jimwallace4579 exactly, I just love the fact you know that. Some people seriously only race against cars they at least think they can beat. With that being said please keep taking the Qs out .
@@jeromethompson4391 First of all, its my car and secondly what magic brake boosting are you doing? All it does is build engine torque while the Audis actually build boost pressure. So, not sure where you're going with this - because if there is some secret sauce i'm missing out on in stock form please let me know.
@@q6_zilla Tuned, for sure brake boosting can build engine tq but from the factory, they didn't. My car only has 4400 kms on the dial, so ecu tune is not in my cards for a while, but I am pretty much full bolt on now.
Thanks Sam for the all your hard work .that was the best race, keep have the mustang gt 10 speed for racing until the other realize how fast this car is. Would love to see mustang vs bmw m340i and bmw m4 2018
The dig races are a good example of how much AWD platforms can make up for lack of performance. Mustang is in another tier than the S5 and Q60 in regards to performance, but the rear wheel drive hurts it from a dig so those we interesting races. Good stuff
it's not just the RWD but also because it's NA and lack of turbos, it doesn't have that quick boost, but the bigger NA engine has more speed for the roll and for more top end power
bro it has 460hp big deal lmao my 2009 C63 made more power then these 2022 shitstangs, They are garbage cars. My C63 was FBO and I walked any mustang by a mile with ease, they are over hyped garbage.
@ A WHS No one cares what you like. Everyone has their own opinions. The mustangs are nice cars. There can be more than one nice car. I don’t hate Mercedes’ I think some are ok but I would never buy one… do you care? No… that’s the point. Everyone buys their own cars so get what you like. There always someone faster. Do you think because a 2004 built civic can smoke your Mercedes’ that it’s a better car?? No but that person that owns it might…. I don’t see your point. You just sound like your a Mercedes’ fan boy and you are letting it cloud your judgement. It’s not a big deal calm down man
Awesome to finally catch a premiere!! Great episode as always Sam!! So happy to see you have finally had some tuned cars on there!! It would be awesome to see a modded Mustang vs tuned Audi vs tuned Q60!!
The Audi is awesome, the Stang is awesome and sounds amazing, the Q is a rocket too. Great race! Infiniti really needs to make a transmission worthy of the VR engine... that thing is so dam restricted it's not even funny.
It’s not a VQ engine my guy it’s a VR30 TT . The VQ was discontinued in 2016 for the Q50/60 platform. Still used in the Nissan lineup and the QX60 . I think the QX50 uses the 2.0 turbo .
@@restlessyouthproductions I had q50 3.7 awd got totaled cuz of drunk driver and still have my 370z which got read ended. And now owned a 3.0ts I’d say the 3.0t way faster than 3.7 stock vs stock
Gt would have done even better if he put the shifter in (S) paddle down to 5500 rpm then hit the gas and shift it into (D) . You get it in manual mode so it hold a higher rpm so the transmission doesn't have to down shift. You put it back in (D) after you hit it so it's back in auto and shifts for you. I have a 18 gt 10 speed they run high 11s bone stock with good DA. Beast of a car
@@M340B58 I’ve got a 2020 5.0 10sp that’s doing 11.7 at the 1/4 stock and now it’s doing 10.5 with 3 bolt ons and e85 tune with little weight reduction (wheel and etc out) So yea it’s possivle
This is my favorite video on this Channel, been following for a while and awesome stuff. I own a 10 speed and this race reminds me of cruising New York 🤣. Always someone in an Infinity and Audi trying to race haha! I can definitely say that the Mustang driver was sleeping though or the car wasn’t in Sport/Track based on how it was pulling. If you know you know, 10 speeds are crazy 🔥🔥.
Nice race, N/A 5.0V8 🤤, makes me proud to own the 2019 Mustang GT PP1 w/6sp manual. Audi’s my 2nd fave cars, Infiniti has some strong engines that make good power.
Those 6 speeds must be real slow? I ran into one with dealer sticker plates that couldn't pull on my Ram 6.7 up to about 90 from a light. After I left off he just kept going and going and going.
GT PP1 6 speed here. Faster than most vehicles but had a kid in a Hellcat pull up to me today. I rolled down my wi down and we exchanged formalities and I told him, "You don't want to see this old man die trying to keep up, do you?" He figured I knew he had the advantage and didn't push it. Lol
It's harder to drive a random car one or two times than one you drive everyday, shocking. Same reason you can't rely on 0-60 or 1/4 times from youtubers who have the car for a few hours. All this type of stuff is for entertainment purposes.
@@SamCarLegion why do you get so aggressive towards people commenting in your videos. Your aggressive responses towards what could possibly be 12 year old kids just looking for confrontation shows how fragile you really are. A person without a fragile ego would assume the original comment was about how you’re not cherry picking cars to always get the winning ones but you took it as a personal attack .
@@chironlee4529 You track? If you don't have a look at lightning laps and see how many cars several price brackets higher it contends or beats which includes an r8 v10 plus. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@chironlee4529 You have no clue what you're talking about. You're comparing a car that's double the cost. Which means if that's the case I can throw boost at the 5.0 and absolutely annihilate either of those for way less than the price of a stock z06 or rs7.
@@iimmortalldreams It's not punching above it's weight at all though lol. It's the big dog here. The other cars literally stood zero chance lol. They just cost more. Price however is not indicative of performance lol
Wow what a badass race that Mustang GT is such a beast for a stock I’m not even surprised. The Audi S5 and the Q5 are awesome cars as well kept up real good 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I could not have asked for anything better than this threesome! We live in Northern Illinois and have a 2019 Mustang convertible which we only drive in nice weather. Our daily drivers, a trusty Outback and a WRX, are both AWD because... well, duh. I am currently ready to replace my WRX with something more... well, you know... and my top two candidates are an S5 hatchback and Q50 Red Sport (yes, 4 doors is less sporty but better for real life). With the price points so close on the Audi and INFINITI, I think I just fell in love with the Audi. Plus, it's an Audi!! Thanks, again!
Damn. The heatsoak on the Q60 on the second race. Unless you upgrade the heat exchanger, you'll need some good pauses between pulls to recover those coolant temps.
It does receive hate but rightfully so. Could you imagine it with DCT-7spd or 8spd. Could probably beat both of these or it would be a true drivers race every single time. I still love all 3.
@@TheLilG410 what would a dct do if the seven speed held up well. I mean honestly my 16 maxima sr with the cvt has beatin many other sedans with dct or traditional transmissions!
The shifts would be much faster and much more precise. Your car doesn't stand a chance against the Infiniti like it sits now. You said sedans. Impala doesn't count.
The 5.0 coyote just hurts feelings. Its just too damn good of an engine. The volumetric efficiency is just insane. Cant wait for ford to release the gen 4 coyote.
@@AllGasNoBreaks416 5.0 10 Speed for 45k brand new in Canada. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA as a fellow canadian. Put the crack pipe down bro. Fucking 3 year old hondas are selling for 40g's, you aint buying ANY 2022 car for under 35K in Canada unless its some shit box thats below a base model
@@cedricnelson5487borla catback, shorty headers, aftermarket catalytic converters air intake and 85mm throttle body all installed. I haven't installed aftermarket radiator yet and no tune.
I am a chevy guy but even I know a 5.0 with the 10 speed is nasty. Seen those cars with very little done to them keep up or drag cars 2 and 3 times as expensive. Much much respect to Ford for that car.
I read so many negative comments about the Mustang 10 speed. Then I tried it myself. And after the test drive I needed to have a Mustang 10 speed automatic. I am sooo happy with it. It shifts really quickly and also reacts great in manual mode. I had a rental Stang some years ago with the 6 speed automatic. I had the impression, that it was 'thinking' before shifting. That is completely gone. Bach to the 10 gears: When passing a Long Vehicle I prefer to switch to S mode.
That kid is probably the ONLY ONE there which knows to drive for racing. He did NOT jump, at least not in roll. From dig he performed very good reaction time (he got some 0.0x, all others were at "race level" of 0.8-1.2sec RT.. they should exercise launching another ONE YEAR, because they had no skills at all.
@@s5roze 😆 the deducing from this original commenter is some next level 3d chess business. Exercise launching one year? Sorry for those in the back he said ONE YEAR.
@@joepeluso3864 it isn’t. The zf8 is the best torque converter trans on the market. The 7 speed auto in the Infiniti doesn’t even come close. No wonder Nissan replaced it with a Mercedes 9 speed auto
@@PapiAndrey well in that application the Infiniti was better. They went to a 9 speed because of emission. Ps more gears doesn’t mean better transmission.
I have a 2022 Q50 RS and ive never driven anything more performance based but I definitely see how the trans is not amazing, it only shifts quick if you stay on it. Its good and perfectly functional but its not the fastest.
The comment section here is usually argumentative but reasonably intelligent. As soon as you brought out a Mustang all of that went downhill. And I say that as a GT owner up until recently.
We comparing price or performance? Would you race a diesel truck with the highest trim package and a TRX or Raptor? Because they're about the same price point. Or a toyota landcruiser and GTR?
Dude, there's a corny ole saying, maybe you heard it.. there's no replacement for displacement.. I mean I could have told you the outcome 2 hrs ago.. but a hell of a video! 👍
It’s still a lot slower than the gt, stock 5.0s run about a second quicker in the quarter mile and 10 mph faster than a s5. An rs5 would be about even with a 5.0
@@avis1978 it’s a German manufactured car being sold in America. Idk if you’ve been under rock but that’s how the car market has worked for the past 150 years my boy. Those domestic vehicles you swear are a bargain and amazing for the price out here cost a fortune in non domestic areas as well. They’re all great vehicles and I couldn’t be more proud of the s5 having the least amount of power and performing how it did
@@Youcallthesebagels_ Nah. Stock GTs run mid 12s. Same for S5. You aren't hitting 11s on the street. In this video the S5 trapped like 107, and the Mustang was traveling 112 at best.
I have experience with Gen II and III 5.0s. The G3 (2018>) has a 500 RPM redline advantage (7500) vs G2. The direct injection and increased compression gives up little down low, but that G3 is a hard charger up top with more lift and longer duration cams. Also ideal with a blower as it has stronger con-rods.
Y’all are j mad cz s5 owner knows how to drive and in my opinion he didn’t jump and his reaction time was perfect. The other 2 drivers were j a lil bit slow in reacting 🤷🏽♂️. It is what it is…🙃
What kind of take is this? You aware of some third camera angle that correlated the flag man dropping his arms and able to compare the take offs accordingly. It is what it is? Figgeritout.
The real test is when 90% of them the Audis and Chevys are sitting at copart or junk yards And ppl appreciate the craftsmanship of Nissan and infinity The q60 red sport especially the awd will double triple in price
I agree too 10 speed won my heart i had lots of fast shit but of all the cars i love the most and have kept its my 18 10 speed this bitch is an overachiever !!
This went about how I expected it. Audi off the line, the nissan grows legs mid way and the mustang finally makes 10 gear near the end of the race... LOL
Just took a 6 speed Mustang GT out for a 24h test drive and it was quite the experience, did not expect it to have the top end it did and the engine screamed
I found a 2019 gt pp1 6 speed with 1300 miles on it. I didn't pass it up and have been enjoying my seat time like I am back in high school 30 years ago!
I have a 2020 gt with the 10 speed and I just got done adding FBO and a e85 tune and I have yet to really push the car but from doing data log pulls my god it’s fast really fast.
I love how the GT dominated the competition. I have a 2020 Mustang GT with the Roush intake and Phase 3 blower. Makes 760 HP and I'm telling you.. That 10 speed is no joke.
Others might not agree but I only really care about what gets off the start line quicker, yeh the mustang caught up but for me it’s the S5, the mustang was a bit slow off the start.
@@gentlemancoal Same here. Love all 3 cars but I'll take am Audi everytime. Would prefer the RS5 over the S5. Maybe once this price gouging shit at dealerships stop.
@@furion7040 the new RS5 is very fast off the line, it shreds the new m4 competition and the new c63s. Still the best Audi is the 2017 R8 v10+, change my mind
I've a S5 supercharged (before Audi went to twin turbos). Off the line, neither of these two other cars would touch it, but as things got rolling, the story would change quickly. However, The '22 S5 is twin turbo charged- this was a change done in '15 or '16 to make the car more fuel efficient. Theres no comparison between the Mustang 10 speed with almost 100HP more than the S5 and a few more HP than the Q60. HP and Torque win all the way. The difference is in the drive, the Audi for me is a cross between engineering elegance, refinement and performance. IN my mind, there is no question that the mustang is about pure performance, and the Japanese model Q60, edges on performance, but falls behind in the resplendence department, so for me, in this test, I say the Mustang has the goods!
Haha, I can promise for all the non believers, the 10 speed auto mustang is stupid fast. The car in track mode is ridiculous, almost no wheel spin if any.
@Fire Heart Nissan only makes lame transmissions. Their new 9 speed in the Nissan Z is objectively inferior to the older ZF 8 speed used in the supra as savagegeese points out and displays. Watch his comparison between the Z and supra, Z has so many glaring issues! Yikes
Having owned a '19 GT PP1 (6spd) and now a '22 S5 Coupe, I can tell you that the Mustang has great legs at the top end. It just pulls and pulls, it's silly and with exhaust it sounds heavenly. It feels surprisingly light on it's feet too for a ~3,800 lb car. That said the S5 is hands down a better car in almost every other way for daily driving and livability. The ZF8 really is a great transmission, the power delivery is smooth as butter and it has all the creature comforts you could ask for. If I could have kept both, I would have. Equally fantastic cars in their own right. I had also cross shopped the Q60 before the S5, it's also a great car, but the build quality and driving experience of the S5 is much more enjoyable. This was a fun head to head and accurate from my experiences as well!
I agree with you, therefore I decided to drive a Audi A6 Sedan (55TFSI) with the same Engine like the S5 as dailiy driver and a 2020 Mustang (10Speed) as Fun-Car.... the european Version of the Mustang is even Fun on our German Autobahn including chasing some bimmers :)
The M440i would be an excellent addition to the race. So pretty much all these cars are +/- even on the quarter mile, depending on the reaction of the driver.
In terms of 1/4 miles times for sure, but the Stang is trapping well ahead of them though in terms of trap speed. Still a good race although I’m a bit sad the Q60 won’t apparently be getting a redesign.
Most impressive is the S5, with that lack of power it was still able to somewhat keep up. But expected results for the mustang - Being the lightest and most powerful.
Everyone on the internet doesn’t believe or understand how quick that 10 speed makes the 5.0. We’re talking about multiple car lengths of difference in a top end roll from 60-120
It's not just the 10-speed transmission though, The modern Coyote engine just pulls really hard up top. Plus, it has quite a bit more peak power than both of these.
Quite the contrary I'd say haha everyone knows what the 5.0 can do
The mustangs is lighter and has more power than them both lol
@@texasstreetkings537 hell no mustang is slow so as the chargers
There are crossover’s faster than a mustang and a charger these cars are slow in 2022 I expect more considering how long they have been around
As a GT owner this makes me proud 🤣
As a gt owner it irratated me how the guy didn't drops gears properly on the roll racing😭 most likely didn't even have it in drag as well so it would've been worse for the other cars
I just bought a 2022 Base GT. A couple weeks ago. So far loving the car.
Me too.. while watching this, I'm like - yeah baby, I've got my own one sitting in my garage. Good feeling!
Same🤣
Me too! Too bad he drove her like a grandma.😂
That weight reduction in the second dig race, though 😂
Lmao!!
that young lad looked like he weighed 60 pounds
It shows how the driver makes a huge difference
Not just the dog but the roll race too. Looked like he actually knew how to roll race and was break boosting before taking off on that roll race.
I have a 2018 S5 and its pretty quick stock. Had some races on the highway with a q60rs other day and it was super close! Edged him out by a nose but I was super impressed with both cars. Props to whoever the guy was in the q60 thanks for the fun races my guy!
New Mustangs are so insanely impressive. There’s a fuck ton of hate and bandwagon shit surrounding Mustangs, it honestly covers up just how incredible modern stangs are.
460 HP from a 5.0 V8, only weighs 3,700
And a 10 speed transmission. Dude with a tune and a couple little mods I know for a fact a newer Mustang GT is a fucking monster. Absolute best bang for your buck.
Charger and challenger RTs at the same price are dogshit. 370 horsepower from a bigger engine 😂😂😂 and theyre a fuck ton heavier. Scat packs is where Dodge starts to keep up with the 5.0, but for a good bit more money.
Camaros aren’t bad per say, 455 hp from a 6.2 is still somehow worse than the 5.0. The coyote is just too much of a masterpiece of engineering for anyone to touch it I guess. Also Camaro SS’s are still more expensive than the GT for some reason, there is the LT1 sure but it’s missing a lot including tires.
And GT500’s smoke Hellcats with again a smaller engine that makes more horsepower lmaoooo. Im just saying Ford knows their shit when it comes to performance. The rights to the Shelby name aren’t just for show.
About time someone write something positive about Mustang
I have a scat challenger and yes thats true I can keep up no problem. Hell cats on the other hand will absolutely destroy 10 speed stangs!
@@fredwilliams7893 I’ve seen mustangs with full bolt ons and a tune walk stock hellcats.
@@TheVolsfan12345 no you havent! Mayby scat packs you guys crack me up just had another guy tell Subaru sti walking hell cats. Pssst.lmao 500 h.p. mayby for a mustang fbo tune hell cats are 707 h.p. stock. Sorry man but your high!
@@fredwilliams7893 - it’s true. Want a link to the video ?
Dude in the Audi is sitting waaaay too far back. This was a great set of races. Nice work Sam
I'll work on that
I'm not sure he could see over the steering wheel lol
Driving with his tippy toes lol
@@Ishliss2012 i got long legs 😶
@@s5roze you gotta sit more upright. If you took racing class your sitting position will be corrected for sure. You’ll run out of arm trying a manuever your car on a tight turn or just avoiding a car like a moose test.
This Audi has 100hp less than GT, and 50 than Q60 :/
But costs more than the mustang still :/
@@LordGwynn and will last longer with better interior.
Damn that GT is a freakin beast. Coming from behind every time. And that V8 growl. Ah....music.
Well it is 200lbs lighter and has 100 more hp than the Audi , so no surprise at all in a roll race
Love my '21 GT👍
@@vroomgc the weight specs of the mustang on this video is wrong. that’s a pp1 mustang which weighs about 3850lbs not 3750
@@10speeddave Lol, ok my point still stands
@@vroomgc yeah
it's great to see how well the Q60 is holding up despite the age of the platform. One thing I really prefer about the Q to the Audi is that it has a 60 degree V6, whereas the Audi is a 90 degree (since it's a V8 with two cylinders cut off). I think I also prefer the turbochargers to be on the outside of the cylinder banks instead of the hot V/reverse flow heads...it's strikes me as ungood that the turbocharger is in the valley of two cylinder banks over the long run, but I suppose that can be compensated with via coolant and oil flow.
Hot V makes the turbo spool faster and the heat generated is very negligible with cooling. The hot V also allows for better response and less turbo lag.
Crazy how they are both boosted V6s yet so differently set up. Very cool.
@@q6_zilla yeah they are radically different engines despite both being simplified down to 3.0T. Although I'm not personally a fan of 90 degree V6s, they do at least have the advantage of a lower center of gravity relative to 60 degree V6s and inline sixes, which given Audi's requisite true-Quattro layout where the engine has to be fully in front of the front axle, this probably counts more than it would in a non-Audi car.
I'm the owner of a B9 2018 S5, tuned. I LOVE the layout of the engine. The Turbo sitting in the V makes a ton of sense, IMO. I've had two Mitsubishi 3000 GT VR4's in the early 2000's and I've dealt with other turbo vehicles as well. For the most part - all the Turbo's are usually placed right next to an exhaust header. Isn't that literally the HOTTEST place for one? Not to mention you can barely turn a nut (relating to a turbo) on most of these other cars due to their location (next to the firewall! WTF!)
@@phaZed9 Being right on the exhaust manifold is indeed very hot; you can only imagine how hot it would be in between two exhaust manifolds.
As others have pointed out, you can engineer around this; turbochargers are inherently hot already, being that we run exhaust through them, and yet they can have long lifespans.
The more difficult thing is the 90 degree V6 layout; that's just inherently rougher than the 60 degree V6 layout. The engineering solutions to that are limited, and generally create additional drag on the engine, usually in the instance of specialized balance shafts. This is why the EA839 is livable in the real world, but there is a cost to efficiency/power.
I think, at heart, that may be my biggest problem with the EA839; it's the product of cost cutting. The hot V has weaknesses, but it also has advantages, and we can argue about which is better. But the 90 degree V6 design is consistently the product of cutting two cylinders off of a V8 because it was too expensive to develop a dedicated V6 engine, and that just irks me. Jaguar does it too (although Jaguar, in their characteristic Jaguar way, does it much more cheaply and brutally than Audi/Porsche) and that's also why I didn't buy a supercharged V6 F-Type.
Still, it's always worth keeping in perspective that these are obscure engineering issues that are of much greater concern to engine nerds than of real drivers. In the real world, the EA839 is a very good, if not quite great, engine.
Good races but it's doesn't surprise me at all. The 5.0 has the most HP the most TQ & it's the lightest of the 3 cars
agreed although HP and torque numbers are only a part of the story. How quick the HP and TQ are obtained is the other part and with a Turbo both cars get full torque below 3000 RPMs while the Mustang needs more revving, that's why it catches up later every time.
AWD is also a great traction aid when taking off from a standstill but on a rolling race it proved not helpful.
And cost less then both.
The s5 with a basic ecu tune gets over 420hp and goes 0-60 in under 4 seconds and it would of beat both. It’s amazing that even stock with way less hp it’s this close lol. Over 100 less hp and it almost beat the mustang😂 a basic tune and it would of smoked it.
@@darkhaven9119 now imagine how much performance I could get into the Mustang for the price difference. Heck I could buy an extra car ...
@@luisinhoens90 yeah but it’s still just a mustang bro lol. No where near as nice or sexy and the interior is 1000 times worse. Also you can get a used 3-5 year old Audi s5 with low miles for around 35-40k.
Shoutout to Jim always bringing the Qs out even knowing the 7speedtranny is not great. Infiniti gang.
He rocks
I have so much fun as you can imagine. Plus I appreciate the fact that I get lined up against some serious cars that are clearly faster than my cars. If I'm always racing lesser cars on the totem pole how do I know where the car needs improvement (and objectively direct future performance mods in that direction) and of course to Sam for the invite and AND repping my clothing brand.
@@jimwallace4579 exactly, I just love the fact you know that. Some people seriously only race against cars they at least think they can beat. With that being said please keep taking the Qs out .
Was Jim on stock tune
S5 vs Q60 RS was an excellent race I want to see them go at it again lol
Someone plz teach Q60 to Brake Boost he's embarrassing my car 😑
@@jeromethompson4391 First of all, its my car and secondly what magic brake boosting are you doing? All it does is build engine torque while the Audis actually build boost pressure. So, not sure where you're going with this - because if there is some secret sauce i'm missing out on in stock form please let me know.
@@jimwallace4164 brake boosting does work on Qs, stock I'm not sure about tbh.
@@q6_zilla Tuned, for sure brake boosting can build engine tq but from the factory, they didn't. My car only has 4400 kms on the dial, so ecu tune is not in my cards for a while, but I am pretty much full bolt on now.
@@jeromethompson4391ong
5.0 10R80 is just 💪🔥 and ofcourse that V8 growl you never get tired of listening to
Finnaly, a proper channel to watch!
Keep it up and please don't dissapear , i want to have some proper quality videos to watch in the future!
Thanks Sam for the all your hard work .that was the best race, keep have the mustang gt 10 speed for racing until the other realize how fast this car is. Would love to see mustang vs bmw m340i and bmw m4 2018
The dig races are a good example of how much AWD platforms can make up for lack of performance. Mustang is in another tier than the S5 and Q60 in regards to performance, but the rear wheel drive hurts it from a dig so those we interesting races. Good stuff
Hey the stang cost less and I’d rather be able to do some burnouts and donuts than awd.
@@iSikk420 the mustang is definitely more of a drivers car
it's not just the RWD but also because it's NA and lack of turbos, it doesn't have that quick boost, but the bigger NA engine has more speed for the roll and for more top end power
bro it has 460hp big deal lmao my 2009 C63 made more power then these 2022 shitstangs, They are garbage cars. My C63 was FBO and I walked any mustang by a mile with ease, they are over hyped garbage.
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No one cares what you like. Everyone has their own opinions. The mustangs are nice cars. There can be more than one nice car. I don’t hate Mercedes’ I think some are ok but I would never buy one… do you care? No… that’s the point. Everyone buys their own cars so get what you like. There always someone faster. Do you think because a 2004 built civic can smoke your Mercedes’ that it’s a better car?? No but that person that owns it might…. I don’t see your point. You just sound like your a Mercedes’ fan boy and you are letting it cloud your judgement. It’s not a big deal calm down man
6:51 the seat lean had me😂. Keep up the great content!
Awesome to finally catch a premiere!!
Great episode as always Sam!!
So happy to see you have finally had some tuned cars on there!!
It would be awesome to see a modded Mustang vs tuned Audi vs tuned Q60!!
The Audi is awesome, the Stang is awesome and sounds amazing, the Q is a rocket too. Great race! Infiniti really needs to make a transmission worthy of the VR engine... that thing is so dam restricted it's not even funny.
It’s not a VQ engine my guy it’s a VR30 TT . The VQ was discontinued in 2016 for the Q50/60 platform. Still used in the Nissan lineup and the QX60 . I think the QX50 uses the 2.0 turbo .
What ? 🤣 it’s not a vq lol it’s vr 3.0tt my guy
@@KeithJay707 lol.. yeah I know 😂… I own the 2022 Q50 Redsport… which has the VR as well. I’m just used to talking about VQ a lot though in forums.
@@restlessyouthproductions sure bud
@@restlessyouthproductions I had q50 3.7 awd got totaled cuz of drunk driver and still have my 370z which got read ended. And now owned a 3.0ts I’d say the 3.0t way faster than 3.7 stock vs stock
I’m not a Mustang guy but I love hearing that Stang scream!!
Gt would have done even better if he put the shifter in (S) paddle down to 5500 rpm then hit the gas and shift it into (D) . You get it in manual mode so it hold a higher rpm so the transmission doesn't have to down shift. You put it back in (D) after you hit it so it's back in auto and shifts for you. I have a 18 gt 10 speed they run high 11s bone stock with good DA. Beast of a car
For sure
2019 Mustang Gt PP1 A10 401A premium, 11.806 at 120mph on a drag radial...full weight 👌
@@vincentdecarlo7279 negative DA? LoL about the only way you're doing that not tuned
@@M340B58 I’ve got a 2020 5.0 10sp that’s doing 11.7 at the 1/4 stock and now it’s doing 10.5 with 3 bolt ons and e85 tune with little weight reduction (wheel and etc out)
So yea it’s possivle
This makes me so happy to have just bought a Mustang GT with the 10 speed auto
So proud to being in an American 🇺🇸 watching that Mustang 😊
This is my favorite video on this Channel, been following for a while and awesome stuff. I own a 10 speed and this race reminds me of cruising New York 🤣. Always someone in an Infinity and Audi trying to race haha! I can definitely say that the Mustang driver was sleeping though or the car wasn’t in Sport/Track based on how it was pulling. If you know you know, 10 speeds are crazy 🔥🔥.
THIS ☝🏻💯
I was thinking the same thing - driver mod needed.
I just bought a 22 mustang gt and I’m not impressed at all :( I probably need to learn to drive it lol.
Nice race, N/A 5.0V8 🤤, makes me proud to own the 2019 Mustang GT PP1 w/6sp manual. Audi’s my 2nd fave cars, Infiniti has some strong engines that make good power.
PP2 over here W 6sp
Nice I have a pp1 10spd, I will never buy a mustang with that horrible mt-82 ever again however
@@MrFpsdestroyer The 10sp is amaze balls. Just picked up a new Mach 1 with the 10A. The Tremec is nice, but if you want to win the race, get the auto!
Those 6 speeds must be real slow? I ran into one with dealer sticker plates that couldn't pull on my Ram 6.7 up to about 90 from a light. After I left off he just kept going and going and going.
GT PP1 6 speed here. Faster than most vehicles but had a kid in a Hellcat pull up to me today. I rolled down my wi down and we exchanged formalities and I told him, "You don't want to see this old man die trying to keep up, do you?" He figured I knew he had the advantage and didn't push it. Lol
Yall noticed when Sam drives whatever cars he always loses? It's like the opposite of matt Watson from carwow 🤣
Then stop watching my videos
kinda true tho lol
It's harder to drive a random car one or two times than one you drive everyday, shocking. Same reason you can't rely on 0-60 or 1/4 times from youtubers who have the car for a few hours. All this type of stuff is for entertainment purposes.
@@SamCarLegion just means you don’t rig every race to win 🙌🏽 We appreciate you just hopping in and going for it no matter the outcome!!
@@SamCarLegion why do you get so aggressive towards people commenting in your videos. Your aggressive responses towards what could possibly be 12 year old kids just looking for confrontation shows how fragile you really are.
A person without a fragile ego would assume the original comment was about how you’re not cherry picking cars to always get the winning ones but you took it as a personal attack .
Damn we needed an M340 to make this race complete, but still loved it. Excellent content
340 would embarrass then all smh. It’s way above them.
@@sajsed2 I’ve got a 2021 RWD so I know firsthand 😂
M240i or M440i would be mo better. 2 door vs the other 2 doors.
@@sajsed2 the mustang would gap the 340 on a roll
@@Youcallthesebagels_ no
Way to go again man another great video you bring the best drag races on RUclips! Keep bringing the awesome videos!
Anyone will be lucky to own any of these cars ....fast out the box and all very tunable.
Great comment
Yup i got the 10speed
eh s5 tuning it’s sorta difficult. need lots of money
I have a 10 spd 5.0 😁
@@cadenpatel6334wym for $8k in mods the the s5 can be a 9 second car 1/4mile
Mustang as always punching above its weight (even on track the s550 can handle). Can't wait for the reveal for the next generation coming soon!
Above it weight? What cars did it race here again? 😂 beat a stock zo6 or an Audi rs7…that would be punching above it weight 🤦♂️
@@chironlee4529 You track? If you don't have a look at lightning laps and see how many cars several price brackets higher it contends or beats which includes an r8 v10 plus. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@chironlee4529 You have no clue what you're talking about. You're comparing a car that's double the cost. Which means if that's the case I can throw boost at the 5.0 and absolutely annihilate either of those for way less than the price of a stock z06 or rs7.
Bro I'm just gonna say 500hp naturally aspirated 5.0
@@iimmortalldreams It's not punching above it's weight at all though lol. It's the big dog here. The other cars literally stood zero chance lol. They just cost more. Price however is not indicative of performance lol
Wow what a badass race that Mustang GT is such a beast for a stock I’m not even surprised. The Audi S5 and the Q5 are awesome cars as well kept up real good 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Kept up? smoked it off the line.
@@donalddann That's what AWD and turbos do
In the Q60’s defense... It was heat soaked from the 1st run.
Sad to say your right after first run it's over.
Had that problem with my Q60 so I upgraded the heat exchanger as my first mod and every pull feels amazing now.
@@brendan_72 I always recommend it as a first mod & getting rid of those horrid run flats if equipped‼️
@@brendan_72 couldn’t do it😪voids my warranty
I've always loved how the mustang just keeps climbing.. it feels like it loves to be pushed
I love all of your videos. Keep up the great work
I could not have asked for anything better than this threesome! We live in Northern Illinois and have a 2019 Mustang convertible which we only drive in nice weather. Our daily drivers, a trusty Outback and a WRX, are both AWD because... well, duh. I am currently ready to replace my WRX with something more... well, you know... and my top two candidates are an S5 hatchback and Q50 Red Sport (yes, 4 doors is less sporty but better for real life). With the price points so close on the Audi and INFINITI, I think I just fell in love with the Audi. Plus, it's an Audi!! Thanks, again!
Hard to win against a car with more horsepower and a better transmission. But that Audi in the world would be a blast.
M340ix would smack its ass!!! and eat its lunch !!!
I would take any of the 3 in a heartbeat if given to me and enjoy it. If I went out and bought one it would be the audi.
Damn. The heatsoak on the Q60 on the second race. Unless you upgrade the heat exchanger, you'll need some good pauses between pulls to recover those coolant temps.
This is true.
Fr she was sluggish after the first run
Dude at the end of the video. Did not say one thing about the Ford Mustang GT Premium. That Mustang GT hate is real
It amazes me how much hate the seven speed auto from the Infiniti gets yet it kept up with the other cars very well.
Solid car with enough speed. Ppl act like there gonna be racing everyday in these cars lol
It does receive hate but rightfully so. Could you imagine it with DCT-7spd or 8spd. Could probably beat both of these or it would be a true drivers race every single time. I still love all 3.
@@TheLilG410 what would a dct do if the seven speed held up well. I mean honestly my 16 maxima sr with the cvt has beatin many other sedans with dct or traditional transmissions!
The shifts would be much faster and much more precise. Your car doesn't stand a chance against the Infiniti like it sits now. You said sedans. Impala doesn't count.
@@TheLilG410 your right I would just vlow doors off in my 16 scat pack challenger 6 speed manual
I love how the stand just cruises right by at top end lol 🔥
Great race !!!! , Mustang GT 5.0 10 speed it’s pure power 💪
technically the S5 is the faster car 0-60 of the line. Pretty impressive given that its heavier and has less horsepower and torque.
@@wazgoodjjits a AWD compared to the 5.0 which is a RWD. The stang is the faster car and just better imo
They should use Audi RS5 that would me more fair and also totally different results 👍🏼
I think Sam and the kid in the S5 should just remove the drivers seat and sit in the back. 😂 Great video guys!
The 5.0 coyote just hurts feelings. Its just too damn good of an engine. The volumetric efficiency is just insane. Cant wait for ford to release the gen 4 coyote.
Coyotes tear all kinda booty 😂😂😂
If only it was AWD it'd be the best overall practical car
For so little horsepower, the performance of the Audi is unbeatable.
yeah, price of almost two mustang GT, and can't win, lmao performance.....
S5 cost exact same as used 5.0 unless it’s 2020 or higher💀
@@mybuildcomp2k565 the S5 does not cost the same as a 5.0. That's hilarious!
@@mybuildcomp2k565 You’re tripping brother. I can go get a new 5.0 10 Speed for 45k brand new in Canada. A new base S5 is 70k lol
@@AllGasNoBreaks416 5.0 10 Speed for 45k brand new in Canada.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA as a fellow canadian. Put the crack pipe down bro. Fucking 3 year old hondas are selling for 40g's, you aint buying ANY 2022 car for under 35K in Canada unless its some shit box thats below a base model
Q60 killing it again, love these so much.
the vr30 engine in the q60 redsport makes about 380whp and 350whp stock , they are underrated ,
i own 1 amazing car
No.....
Hahahaha, no.
Objectively wrong
You mean 380 BHP and 350 WHP?
I can attest the 10 speed is phenomenal. Already got plans for mods on mine, but I’m primarily going for a track build.
I have an 18 gt 6spd with 5 mods getting tuned after the Winter, mods have made a huge difference already
@@MP-gx9dgwhat mods do you have?
@@cedricnelson5487borla catback, shorty headers, aftermarket catalytic converters air intake and 85mm throttle body all installed. I haven't installed aftermarket radiator yet and no tune.
The Mustang GT premium performance is an all around awesome and fun car to own drive race or travel in
I am a chevy guy but even I know a 5.0 with the 10 speed is nasty. Seen those cars with very little done to them keep up or drag cars 2 and 3 times as expensive. Much much respect to Ford for that car.
I read so many negative comments about the Mustang 10 speed. Then I tried it myself. And after the test drive I needed to have a Mustang 10 speed automatic. I am sooo happy with it. It shifts really quickly and also reacts great in manual mode. I had a rental Stang some years ago with the 6 speed automatic. I had the impression, that it was 'thinking' before shifting. That is completely gone. Bach to the 10 gears: When passing a Long Vehicle I prefer to switch to S mode.
I have a 2019 6 speed and those 10 speeds are the real deal.
I got a 2018 pp1 I always drive in sport 10 speed is where it’s at
Where is the beast G70?!!💪♥️
NICE RACE Sam 🌹
That kid is probably the ONLY ONE there which knows to drive for racing. He did NOT jump, at least not in roll. From dig he performed very good reaction time (he got some 0.0x, all others were at "race level" of 0.8-1.2sec RT.. they should exercise launching another ONE YEAR, because they had no skills at all.
Someone who understands
@@s5roze 😆 the deducing from this original commenter is some next level 3d chess business. Exercise launching one year? Sorry for those in the back he said ONE YEAR.
Audi trans is much better than Qs (coming from a Q owner) lol finding the right gear for a roll should take you like 3 seconds.
I pretty sure Sam said the q60 transmission was better than the Audi. I think 🤔
@@joepeluso3864 it isn’t. The zf8 is the best torque converter trans on the market. The 7 speed auto in the Infiniti doesn’t even come close. No wonder Nissan replaced it with a Mercedes 9 speed auto
@@PapiAndrey well in that application the Infiniti was better. They went to a 9 speed because of emission. Ps more gears doesn’t mean better transmission.
Sam said the auto mode in the Audi was pretty bad. 😂
I have a 2022 Q50 RS and ive never driven anything more performance based but I definitely see how the trans is not amazing, it only shifts quick if you stay on it. Its good and perfectly functional but its not the fastest.
Infinity owner is regretting his life choices,like most other Infinity, Nissan owners
Did the Audi kid step on it earlier than he was supposed to -- twice?
Yea the s5 left hella early on the roll
Unfortunately yes, sometimes is the unintentional urge to win or be on time.
He looked fine on the dig one not sure on the roll
@@msyourdaddy7434 he left early from a dig too
@@SamCarLegion hard to resist
The comment section here is usually argumentative but reasonably intelligent. As soon as you brought out a Mustang all of that went downhill. And I say that as a GT owner up until recently.
Who didn't know the 5.0 was going to catch them, To much American HP
Should race against RS5. It doesn't match 354 hp vs 450hp.
@@abuamin1550 S5 loaded same price as q60 red sport base model
@@abuamin1550 Except the RS5 costs 80,000 dollars, at that point race it with the GT500.
We comparing price or performance? Would you race a diesel truck with the highest trim package and a TRX or Raptor? Because they're about the same price point.
Or a toyota landcruiser and GTR?
@@aimxdy8680 right, which is kind of a mismatch anyway
Dude, there's a corny ole saying, maybe you heard it.. there's no replacement for displacement.. I mean I could have told you the outcome 2 hrs ago.. but a hell of a video! 👍
The Q60 is highly underrated, wish we could see one race with FBO to show its true potential
Same engines in the new 400z
Ahh is not the TRUE Potential unmodified.. it is what it is. Every car can be modified, the only thing that matters then, is how big your wallet is.
Some are doing 10s with a few mods and tune. Blows away the Mustang
@@infiniti37G
What if the mustang has a few mods and a tune also
@@infiniti37G same for the mustang 🤷🏽♂️
Super proud of the s5 considering the power margin
It’s still a lot slower than the gt, stock 5.0s run about a second quicker in the quarter mile and 10 mph faster than a s5. An rs5 would be about even with a 5.0
I wouldn't be so proud. It just cost like 15k more then the other two if not more.
@@Youcallthesebagels_ that’s why if you read the text I said taking the difference in power into consideration.
@@avis1978 it’s a German manufactured car being sold in America. Idk if you’ve been under rock but that’s how the car market has worked for the past 150 years my boy. Those domestic vehicles you swear are a bargain and amazing for the price out here cost a fortune in non domestic areas as well. They’re all great vehicles and I couldn’t be more proud of the s5 having the least amount of power and performing how it did
@@Youcallthesebagels_ Nah. Stock GTs run mid 12s. Same for S5. You aren't hitting 11s on the street. In this video the S5 trapped like 107, and the Mustang was traveling 112 at best.
The 10 speed transmissions nowadays are crazy man. The lt1 and coyote platforms with them too. Jeez.
I have experience with Gen II and III 5.0s. The G3 (2018>) has a 500 RPM redline advantage (7500) vs G2. The direct injection and increased compression gives up little down low, but that G3 is a hard charger up top with more lift and longer duration cams. Also ideal with a blower as it has stronger con-rods.
i have a stock six-speed 2016 gt, are the ten speeds really that much faster than the 6 speeds or is it still close?
Another spectacular video! Somehow I'm 2 weeks late with sub and notifications 😆
That coyote 5.0 came through with that top end.
Because it ain't AWD they should have put some slicks on it lmao
As 1000000 percent mustang fan, I wouldn’t mind having all three in my garage 😂
Y’all are j mad cz s5 owner knows how to drive and in my opinion he didn’t jump and his reaction time was perfect. The other 2 drivers were j a lil bit slow in reacting 🤷🏽♂️.
It is what it is…🙃
What kind of take is this? You aware of some third camera angle that correlated the flag man dropping his arms and able to compare the take offs accordingly. It is what it is? Figgeritout.
This is why I love a mustang, we are the beasts in a race💋
Love the comparisons. I’m partial to the mustang but the VAG cars are also great.
The real test is when 90% of them the Audis and Chevys are sitting at copart or junk yards
And ppl appreciate the craftsmanship of Nissan and infinity
The q60 red sport especially the awd will double triple in price
@@fettaboyproductions6022 tell me about those Nissan cvt transmissions
I truly appreciate your Channel and content live every race 🏁
The Mustang is the most popular performance car in the world for a reason: bang for your buck. Hard to beat it.
Jeez for the Audi having considerable less bhp and more weight it’s a beast.
I love when the drive through people say “AHHH it ain’t stick!?” Lol if only they knew, love my 2020 10R80 💚
I agree too 10 speed won my heart i had lots of fast shit but of all the cars i love the most and have kept its my 18 10 speed this bitch is an overachiever !!
Solid lineup, all three had a specialty
Can he see over the steering wheel? When it went from Sam to car owner, I legitimately thought it was a little kid driving the car.
😂
LMAOO
if he couldn't see over he wouldn't be able to drive sooo you're dumb
good runs...but its kind of hard to read text on the screen when you put graphics over it.
This went about how I expected it. Audi off the line, the nissan grows legs mid way and the mustang finally makes 10 gear near the end of the race... LOL
Just took a 6 speed Mustang GT out for a 24h test drive and it was quite the experience, did not expect it to have the top end it did and the engine screamed
I found a 2019 gt pp1 6 speed with 1300 miles on it. I didn't pass it up and have been enjoying my seat time like I am back in high school 30 years ago!
Mustang was clearly not in manual mode for the roll, would’ve gapped that s5 like it was standing still.
No it won't
@@jevonbigga6172 yea it will
@@wytewizzard no it won't
@@randomautonomousdronepilot3384 i have 10speed 5.0..i wish he had it in drag mode... You would wish the driver put s5 in park at that point
@@wytewizzard it's slow. Stop liking your own comment
The GT in a rear engine front wheel drive configuration would be so sweet.
Q60 owner is currently trading it in for a 10 Speed Mustang
Wh didn’t you guys put a rs5 out there
I have a 2020 gt with the 10 speed and I just got done adding FBO and a e85 tune and I have yet to really push the car but from doing data log pulls my god it’s fast really fast.
Hair and beard looks good Sam . The music is 🔥
Once that V8 starts breathing it can’t be stopped
I love how you guys actually swapped drivers between the cars to make sure it was actually the car
I love how the GT dominated the competition. I have a 2020 Mustang GT with the Roush intake and Phase 3 blower. Makes 760 HP and I'm telling you.. That 10 speed is no joke.
Others might not agree but I only really care about what gets off the start line quicker, yeh the mustang caught up but for me it’s the S5, the mustang was a bit slow off the start.
@@gentlemancoal Same here. Love all 3 cars but I'll take am Audi everytime. Would prefer the RS5 over the S5. Maybe once this price gouging shit at dealerships stop.
@@furion7040 the new RS5 is very fast off the line, it shreds the new m4 competition and the new c63s.
Still the best Audi is the 2017 R8 v10+, change my mind
@@furion7040 yeah I’ve seen that here in the UK, RS5 going for about £80,000
@@gentlemancoal Me too, especially when its raining or snowing.
The Q owner looks so disappointed the whole time. But also no shit the mustang won. Power to weight difference is significant
I've a S5 supercharged (before Audi went to twin turbos). Off the line, neither of these two other cars would touch it, but as things got rolling, the story would change quickly.
However, The '22 S5 is twin turbo charged- this was a change done in '15 or '16 to make the car more fuel efficient. Theres no comparison between the Mustang 10 speed with almost 100HP more than the S5 and a few more HP than the Q60. HP and Torque win all the way. The difference is in the drive, the Audi for me is a cross between engineering elegance, refinement and performance. IN my mind, there is no question that the mustang is about pure performance, and the Japanese model Q60, edges on performance, but falls behind in the resplendence department, so for me, in this test, I say the Mustang has the goods!
The S5 is single turbo FYI.
RS5 is twin turbo. S5 is a single turbo.
Looking real dumb saying the S5 is a twin turbo
Haha, I can promise for all the non believers, the 10 speed auto mustang is stupid fast. The car in track mode is ridiculous, almost no wheel spin if any.
Pleasantly impressed by the Q60.
The Vr30 is a great platform
@@youngfab9678 it's ok, older design
@Fire Heart Nissan only makes lame transmissions. Their new 9 speed in the Nissan Z is objectively inferior to the older ZF 8 speed used in the supra as savagegeese points out and displays. Watch his comparison between the Z and supra, Z has so many glaring issues! Yikes
Having owned a '19 GT PP1 (6spd) and now a '22 S5 Coupe, I can tell you that the Mustang has great legs at the top end. It just pulls and pulls, it's silly and with exhaust it sounds heavenly. It feels surprisingly light on it's feet too for a ~3,800 lb car. That said the S5 is hands down a better car in almost every other way for daily driving and livability. The ZF8 really is a great transmission, the power delivery is smooth as butter and it has all the creature comforts you could ask for. If I could have kept both, I would have. Equally fantastic cars in their own right. I had also cross shopped the Q60 before the S5, it's also a great car, but the build quality and driving experience of the S5 is much more enjoyable. This was a fun head to head and accurate from my experiences as well!
I agree with you, therefore I decided to drive a Audi A6 Sedan (55TFSI) with the same Engine like the S5 as dailiy driver and a 2020 Mustang (10Speed) as Fun-Car.... the european Version of the Mustang is even Fun on our German Autobahn including chasing some bimmers :)
The M440i would be an excellent addition to the race. So pretty much all these cars are +/- even on the quarter mile, depending on the reaction of the driver.
In terms of 1/4 miles times for sure, but the Stang is trapping well ahead of them though in terms of trap speed.
Still a good race although I’m a bit sad the Q60 won’t apparently be getting a redesign.
as a GT owner and an x RS5 owner, would have loved to seen that match up !
Bro that mustang passed them like they were tie to a stone!
After it got smoked off the line.
@@donalddann yeah they're AWD twin turbo that's what happens
@@ATH4700 Slowest 480 hp car out there. Lol
@donalddann talking about the mustang?
The all-wheel drives beat the Mustang off the line...yep, and that was it! They were toast after that!
Coming from behind and overtaking the other car(s) always looks badass!
Most impressive is the S5, with that lack of power it was still able to somewhat keep up. But expected results for the mustang - Being the lightest and most powerful.
It’s not down power, that s5 actually makes more than advertised
@@TheHybridQ50S isn’t it a stock S5? Those are Stock numbers
@@TheHybridQ50S it still makes less then the q60 buddy. Believe me I am a VAG giy
@@TheHybridQ50S They took what u said and mixed it up so bad 🤦🏿♂️
@@CloroxGodThe1st I didn’t even bother reading lol
I really hope the mustang was in drag strip mode with traction control fully off. Makes such a huge difference when racing the car
Stuff gets wild in drag strip mode lol.
Would like to see that GT vs the LT1 that was on a while back.
both with 10spd
My money is on the LT1.
As a camaro owner I'm gonna say the Chevy will be slightly quicker but the mustang will pull on top end
That looked so fun! You've all got dream jobs!