@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics About 2 hours, including GM making me change my password. I really wish I had found that TSB right away. Some reason I couldn't find it in the list, only when I typed in no crank.
Being a govt fleet mechanic my whole life, the shop conditions you have to go to and work in are crazy, they are always very dirty, crammed, crap scattered everywhere, and you barely have enough room to squeeze around the car and open the door and get in. Guess I'm just used to the epoxied floors, super bright lighting, everything organized, and equiptment and shop cleaned weekly to stay clean. But besides that point, great diag though, didn't see that coming
Another great video!! I can see why you like working outside!! The garage looks like a junkyard!! You can use my garage,its heated,clean and no junk on the floor,lol!!! Thanks for showing!!!
Very interesting video! I’m also super impressed with the way you’re able to get such clean screen captures of the scan tool and pc screens. Sooo much nicer than the shakey handheld camera on other channels. What software do you use to do that?
hey bro.. Thanks for the heads up on that X431 Pro being on sale. I bought one and my buddy bought one and it's a pretty killer tool. On mine, everything seems to work fine, except on the first home page where there are several buttons, the: "SERVICE FUNCTION" button does not work.. Well it works, it just takes me to a blank page; where normally it would be a bunch of shortcuts of resets, etc. It looks like I can still do the functions, they are just scattered around in the software and different modules, rather than having them grouped up in a convenient menu. Are you going to make a video about this thing or a review, etc? Because I would really like to know if mine is just broken and needs repaired or if that 'service function' button just isn't supported for something this old? Can you please just open up yours and see if that 'Service Function" button in the center, near the top-- that has the wrench symbol: is working or not? Please let me know-- I really appreciate it. and thanks again for the clearance shout out.
New Sub Here, Great vid, im assuming the signal from the cam sensor was going crazy and reporting that the cam was moving when it was not (engine off) you dont come across a no crank with a faulty cam sensor normally a faulty crank sensor would cause that issue. or was the cam sensor shorted internally
I have a twenty fourteen chevy cruiseI have a 2014 Chevy cruise. It was driving fine. I side swiped a small pole. No damage to the engine whatsoever. I made the wrong choice and took it to a body shop and let him break it down for the frame damage. Estimate when it came back to me. It has like five codes on the dashboard service trek. And then it's what has no power. It won't go over 40 miles an hour.. Literally nothing wrong with it prior to the exterior break down and repair. Do you have any advice?
I use a Toughbook CF-33, I get them on eBay for $350-$500. I update the hard drive with a bigger one and make partitions for Domestic, Asian and Europe.
@@advancedleveldiagnostics It wasn't the same issue, turned out to be a start and stall with the security light flashing. Someone put a used PCM in it, not sure why. Got the used pcm/immobilizer set up and it starts and runs fine. No codes. Hopefully it isn't back in a while with another fried PCM.
Good video,so in this case the less INFORMATION the computer HAS the BETTER the car works?right KISS saying is right in this case. good lesson,thank you
Hello, On mines i have changed bcm, ecu, key, ignition, immo, same problem sometime dont crank at all, Sometime crank and dies, what can be the prob? Thanks
@@advancedleveldiagnosticsexhaust cam sensor is ( camshaft sensor right?) Im getting an error on cluster module as "incorrect immo identifier received" Already replaced ecu, key, ingition, bcm and immo box
With the exhaust CMP sensor unplugged at the end, would the ECM request an MIL, or does this ECM also get a position reading from a crankshaft position sensor or an intake CMP?
Not having a routine that marks the signal implausible and ignoring it so the car runs is lame. GM deserves all the bad publicity and warranty costs these kinds of failure modes cause.
So my car starts when it wants and some times it wouldn't, so i took it to a mechanic and he said my starter was completely out and gave me a price. I brought it home and its been starting for past 3 days, till today. I checked the fuse and it started right up. does this mean my mechanic lied to me?🤔
Cars are getting ridicously overcomplicated with unnecessary technology. Even with a bad CMP, the car should still crank. I would love to hear why the engineers designed it this way. With older cars, you could at least get home with a bad CMP.
The problem is that it is not simply bad, it is giving a signal that the car is running, so The car won't crank just like it won't crank when it's actually running.
@@advancedleveldiagnosticsin such case, the ECM it's missing a check, it should not rely only on CMP counts, but in CKP too. I would even expect a dtc for out of sync if cam it's moving but crank isn't.
@@AlanGonzalez-om4rr The engineers dropped the ball on this one that's why there's a TSB. Like you said the ECM is missing a check. The ECM should compare and confirm those counts from the exhaust CMP with CKP and/or intake CMP. The computer's too dumb due to insufficient programming. Although the exhaust CMP showed counts, it also showed zero RPM. You would think there would be enough code to throw a DTC code for that. Great video though! Good learning experience.
Now that was CRAZY! never thought a bad cam sensor would cause a NO CRANK! 😳
Now we need a scope capture of the signal!!
Me to, never ever seen that!
You're right I should of gotten one but I was in a rush because this vehicle took a lot longer than expected😞 Thanks for watching!
ah you beat me to it Ivan
@@advancedleveldiagnostics what was the actual diag time? That TSB was a life saver lol
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics About 2 hours, including GM making me change my password. I really wish I had found that TSB right away. Some reason I couldn't find it in the list, only when I typed in no crank.
Being a govt fleet mechanic my whole life, the shop conditions you have to go to and work in are crazy, they are always very dirty, crammed, crap scattered everywhere, and you barely have enough room to squeeze around the car and open the door and get in. Guess I'm just used to the epoxied floors, super bright lighting, everything organized, and equiptment and shop cleaned weekly to stay clean. But besides that point, great diag though, didn't see that coming
That's why I usually prefer to work outside the shop, Unless it is stuck inside or too cold.
Yep. Agreed! Being mobile I usually prefer working outside of the shops that I service. For all the said reasons. Awesome video man!
Easy to have a perfect shop when the budget is always plenty.
I literally was just thinking the same thing. “This dude works in the most back alley sketchy places”
@maccarr9072 yes it is nice......
TSB's ARE NOW MY FAVORITE ......!!!!!!!!!!
Mine too!
👍Moral of the video : always check TSBs!
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Another great video!! I can see why you like working outside!! The garage looks like a junkyard!! You can use my garage,its heated,clean and no junk on the floor,lol!!! Thanks for showing!!!
Lol I wish! The only nice shops I work in are Body Shops, and they stink like paint.
Wow excellent video, thank you so much, gonna help a lot of others as well! Keep up the Good Work!
Much appreciated!
Anti double start feature blocking crank because it thinks the engine is running?
Yup, I probably never would of checked for it without the TSB!
@@advancedleveldiagnostics same here.
Now any time check TSB , some many crazy electronic issue good job
You the man, nice diag!
It’s was worth it watching you
That was a cool TSB, I've never seen a cam sensor count with KOEO.. Kool Find .!!
Ah progress! This is what happens when you make critical components in grass shacks..
Very interesting video! I’m also super impressed with the way you’re able to get such clean screen captures of the scan tool and pc screens. Sooo much nicer than the shakey handheld camera on other channels. What software do you use to do that?
Thank you! On the PC, I'm using a program called RecForth to screen record. On the Scan tool, I'm using the built-in screen recorder.
have never seen that before. i bet some would have changed bcm, pcm, fuse box. nice diag.
Thanks!
hey bro.. Thanks for the heads up on that X431 Pro being on sale. I bought one and my buddy bought one and it's a pretty killer tool.
On mine, everything seems to work fine, except on the first home page where there are several buttons, the: "SERVICE FUNCTION" button does not work.. Well it works, it just takes me to a blank page; where normally it would be a bunch of shortcuts of resets, etc. It looks like I can still do the functions, they are just scattered around in the software and different modules, rather than having them grouped up in a convenient menu. Are you going to make a video about this thing or a review, etc? Because I would really like to know if mine is just broken and needs repaired or if that 'service function' button just isn't supported for something this old? Can you please just open up yours and see if that 'Service Function" button in the center, near the top-- that has the wrench symbol: is working or not? Please let me know-- I really appreciate it. and thanks again for the clearance shout out.
I just checked, mine is blank too.
something new every day
I had this same problem after checking starter and battery turned out to be the 250 amp fuse on the battery
Never seen that before excellent video.thank for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Is that orange case just for carrying your maintainer?
Yes
WOW great video good learning experience for everyone
Thank you!
New Sub Here, Great vid, im assuming the signal from the cam sensor was going crazy and reporting that the cam was moving when it was not (engine off) you dont come across a no crank with a faulty cam sensor normally a faulty crank sensor would cause that issue. or was the cam sensor shorted internally
Yes it was showing that it was moving when the key was on.
Wow that is insane never seen anything like that before
Same here!
That is a cool one. Surprised I’ve haven’t run across this yet with all of the POS cruises I’ve worked on through the years 😂
This was my only time seeing this, never had it since. Thanks for watching!
I have a twenty fourteen chevy cruiseI have a 2014 Chevy cruise. It was driving fine. I side swiped a small pole. No damage to the engine whatsoever. I made the wrong choice and took it to a body shop and let him break it down for the frame damage. Estimate when it came back to me. It has like five codes on the dashboard service trek. And then it's what has no power. It won't go over 40 miles an hour.. Literally nothing wrong with it prior to the exterior break down and repair. Do you have any advice?
Step 1 you have to check with a scan tool to see what the codes are.
What kind of Labtop do you recommend for programming? Got to update and not trying to brake the bank. Grear video!
I use a Toughbook CF-33, I get them on eBay for $350-$500. I update the hard drive with a bigger one and make partitions for Domestic, Asian and Europe.
Amazing! That was pretty cool. I'm sure it was one of those " ever since you " situations lol
It sure was!
This guy has more Test, Diagnostic Equipment half of which I've never seen before and wouldn't know how to use 😂
Very nice diagnostic
Thanks for watching!
advancedleveldiagnostics which tools do you use please
@@advancedleveldiagnosticsWhich tools are you using
nice diag! like a pro!
That’s a crazy one!
I have not seen this issue again yet!
so, do you think the oil in connection has anything to do with the problem?
It seemed like the sensor had a slight leak, so it is very possible. I didn't see that symptom in the TSB.
I have a Cruze with this problem on it's way to me. Maybe I'm going to be replacing the exhaust CMP sensor.
you should be able to see it in live data if its moving.
@@advancedleveldiagnostics It wasn't the same issue, turned out to be a start and stall with the security light flashing. Someone put a used PCM in it, not sure why. Got the used pcm/immobilizer set up and it starts and runs fine. No codes. Hopefully it isn't back in a while with another fried PCM.
Good video,so in this case the less INFORMATION the computer HAS the BETTER the car works?right KISS saying is right in this case. good lesson,thank you
A shortened cam sensor
Hello,
On mines i have changed bcm, ecu, key, ignition, immo, same problem sometime dont crank at all,
Sometime crank and dies, what can be the prob?
Thanks
Did you check if you have activity on the exhaust cam sensor?
@@advancedleveldiagnosticsexhaust cam sensor is ( camshaft sensor right?)
Im getting an error on cluster module as "incorrect immo identifier received"
Already replaced ecu, key, ingition, bcm and immo box
Dam ! Its worth cheching tsbs!
💯
Awesome work once again! Keep ‘em coming!
With the exhaust CMP sensor unplugged at the end, would the ECM request an MIL, or does this ECM also get a position reading from a crankshaft position sensor or an intake CMP?
Yes, it had a circuit code for the exhaust cam sensor.
As far as repair software, which one do you prefer?
Also, Great diag and repair!!!!!
For diagrams I like AllData the best.
Not having a routine that marks the signal implausible and ignoring it so the car runs is lame. GM deserves all the bad publicity and warranty costs these kinds of failure modes cause.
Thats crazy, something learnt very new. Cam sensor would prevent to crank the engine. So cool eh
wich topdon scanner is this?
Phoenix Elite
www.topdon.us/collections/professional-series/products/phoenix-elite?ref=DKOii7zD3k5PUe
Wild!!
So my car starts when it wants and some times it wouldn't, so i took it to a mechanic and he said my starter was completely out and gave me a price. I brought it home and its been starting for past 3 days, till today. I checked the fuse and it started right up. does this mean my mechanic lied to me?🤔
Many times starters fail intermittently, so it's very possible its really a bad starter.
What's more surprising, this cam problem or a Chevy Cruze making it 10 years?
😂
Totally unexpected!
nice
That was crazy lol
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Why al be damn just the problem that fixed mine
Cars are getting ridicously overcomplicated with unnecessary technology. Even with a bad CMP, the car should still crank. I would love to hear why the engineers designed it this way. With older cars, you could at least get home with a bad CMP.
The problem is that it is not simply bad, it is giving a signal that the car is running, so The car won't crank just like it won't crank when it's actually running.
@@advancedleveldiagnosticsin such case, the ECM it's missing a check, it should not rely only on CMP counts, but in CKP too.
I would even expect a dtc for out of sync if cam it's moving but crank isn't.
@@AlanGonzalez-om4rr The engineers dropped the ball on this one that's why there's a TSB. Like you said the ECM is missing a check. The ECM should compare and confirm those counts from the exhaust CMP with CKP and/or intake CMP. The computer's too dumb due to insufficient programming. Although the exhaust CMP showed counts, it also showed zero RPM. You would think there would be enough code to throw a DTC code for that. Great video though! Good learning experience.
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