Synology Hyper Backup - How to Backup over the Internet Incrementally with Multi-versions
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
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VIDEO INDEX:
00:00 - Intro
01:50 - Hyper Backup Installation
04:15 - Configuring for initial local network backup
07:42 - Setting up Internet backup after initial local backup
12:05 - Browsing through backup recycles
13:05 - Browsing Hyper Backup Vault on remote NAS device
14:22 - Restoring from a Hyper Backup archive
In this video I describe how to backup your Synology device remotely to another Synology network attached storage device at a remote location.
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Thank you for the clear explanation of versioning with an example! It hadn't clicked until you gave a clear example.
Just finished watching all three of these sponsored videos and, as always, you did an excellent job!! Synology should get you to do all their videos but I know you have other things to do.
Still waiting to see the video you mentioned you would be doing on adding security cameras to your home/office and letting your data Synology do double duty, (with their surveillance app), to also act as an NVR/DVR for home/small office surveillance video.
Hi Lon !!! excellent video. Short, sweet and to the point. I was able to resolve a backup issue in a matter of minutes with your video, compared to days of reading posts on Synology forums and Synology recipes which are disastrous.
Keep up the good work. Ed.
Having tried to find a simple explanation of using Hyper Backup in Synology's documentation, I completely failed to do so. This video had exactly what I needed to get up and running quickly, thank you.
Thanks Lon, very helpful I just ordered my 2nd synology and am about to do exactly what you described.
Thank you so much Lon! Very informative video :) Worked like a charm on my Synology devices running DSM 6.1
Love Synology for ftp from my IP cameras and torrents. Worth every penny.
Much appreciate this video Lon! Would love to have you go from A to Z on setting up the whole Mail Plus/Server. How to setup it up, what are the prerequisites, etc. Thank you sir!
Great video and good information. Really helped me decide how to setup my off-site backups. Thanks!
Excellent video - Shows how to backup to 2nd Synology NAS on local network, then move the backup device to a remote location and most importantly, how to get to your backup files even if there is no disaster. Also shows how to restore from backup. Thank you.
Thank you for doing a video on Synology. It rocks
Great video Lon and thank you for the vpn suggestion. I've never thought about using that on my QNAP, lol.
I've been very happy with my synology drive. thank you for the video. A video on OpenVPN would you be interesting as well.
+efox2001
I agree I would also like to see a video of how to setup OpenVPN on Synology and how to use that in a real world use case. Another great video Lon, Been watching your videos for a longtime. Keep up the good work.
Nice video, very clear and comprehensive!
Nice work on this Video ! It helped me see clearly how to seed the backup locally and then move offsite. Thank You for that! One note about restoring. Using the Desktop version of HyperBackup Explorer (on Windows) we can copy any Folder from root on down. Backup Explorer Web based does not permit this. Hope someone might find this tidbit of use.
Great work Lon! You are my favorite youtuber on NAS. Sorry I didn't subscribe earlier.
Lon,
Great video on a hot topic. Would like to see more on setting this up with Open VPN AND using backing up with a non synology server using rsync. I also have older Netgear ReadyNAS NV+ (2009). Although this old NAS is no longer supported it still works great. It supports Rsync and I'm using this to backup my old Netgear NAS to the new Synology DS415 play.
Note. through the Netgear NAS interface you can use rsync to both push and/or pull rsync with a remote rsync server/NAS. With the Synology NAS interface you "CANNOT" rsync pull. you need to get under the covers with ssh and write an ssh/rsync script and to pull date from a remote rsync server or NAS. Bad Bad BAD!
I do like the Synology backup versioning. Too bad you need to use the proprietary Synoogy interface to see the backups on the remote NAS. I wonder if this is true when backing up to a non-synology NAS. Another question: after you backup all the incremental versions setup, will the Synology merge or rollup the older incrementals into the original?
Keep up the good work.
Thanks for the video. This is just what I was looking for. :-)
Lon, Excellent video!! Thank you. I agree with you regarding Synology, they make a great product and easy enough for none IT people.. We have one in our office and two at remote locations. Was thinking about buying another small one for the office and put it on our network. Your comment stating the same thing just stepped up my time line. Keep up the great work.
Glad you found it helpful!
Great video. Very useful
Excellent narration on how Synology's Hyper Backup works! Could you add a quick segment on how to successfully run a backup to Dropbox?
This is all great but how do I set up the IP address so I can back up to a remote synology nas (one located outside the internal network?
Great as usual. Tx a lot!
Thank you for the tutorial
excellent video! please do a port forwarding video...i'm facing a lot of trouble here.
I made my Hyper backup via Internet. it was 120 Gbit photo and it took about 3.5 hours on a 100/100 Mbit Internet line at both ends. I have QoS enabled in both places. I think it's pretty good
Execellent explanation.
Hi Lon, i think you have missed a very cool feature here! In stead of hauling the destination NAS next to the source you want to hyper backup, there is a build in system which allows you to (temporarily) use an external harddrive for the initial backup, then reset the connection via internet and use the net for incremental backups. Add a new Nas s, backup, then tick the lowest of the 3 option (local share/USB) and make the first backup. Then drive down the to the offsite nas and copy the files from the USB DISK. When back (or via internet) pickup the backup you made and edit it to the new location (IP) and folder. This will save you some hustle with ip ranges which might differ from home network to homenetwork... Great video though!
Nice vid Lon.
Great information Lon!!!! Question do both the Synology units have to have the same DSM? Also when is the DSM6 come out? Kinda freaks me out with big clients data... Keep up the great work it much appreciated!!!!!
First, I love your videos. The most comprehensive and clear anywhere. Can this be done without taking the initial load of data offsite? I want to back up a 100 gig file or two from a site without a synology, to my home where my synology is located. I cannot get any help even from synology as to how to do something like that.
I can't wait for dsm 6.0 new features. I just hope the ds1513+ is supported. Maybe a video on the new btrfs file system coming out on the synology nas devices.
Thank you!!
Great video! for the destination synology can we use the quickconnect url as the target? instead of opening the ports on the router?
Great video
Well I managed to get it working via your setup using dyndns and open ports. I tried setting up VPN but did not work out. Will try again next week, but would love to have that tutorial! Thanks
Really helpful. One question though. Can I use this to back up to a non Synology server and if not what should I use? Cheers
Thank you for this video!
I just got a Diskstation DS216 II+2 and was lost on which backup application to use. There seems to be some overlap between their options, though. For cloud backups to Google, I had thought "Cloud Sync" was the way to go, but now it looks like Hyper Backup to Google might be a better setup on an detrimental schedule. What do you think?
Great video! I have a dozen or so Synology NAS' out there at various client sites. I have had problems lately with 6.0 and USB external drives. I format them. Then I configure Hyper Backup to "Local Shared Folder and External Storage" but can't seem to be able to swap the drives out like I was used to. I can only backup to one drive. I get errors. Is there some trick I'm missing with the new Hyper Backup to be able to use 2 external drives in rotation?
Thank you for the video!
Tim
awesome!
I have enabled transfer encryption and also client side encryption. With this done, do I still need to encrypt the shared folder on the secondary NAS?
Can I do the initial backup to an external hard drive connected via USB, then take that drive to a remote Synology, plug it in, and continue over the Internet? I have a drive I can backup to but I cannot bring it home.
good video, however regarding OpenVpn i would like to know whether the portforwarding also needs to be enabled at the destination NAS (offsite). thanks and it would be great if you cold maybe do a OpenVpn video :)
I brought my main NAS to my backup NAS location with 10.0.0.x net. Did just like in the video and it worked perfectly until i came home. @ home i run 192.168.0.x and when i wanted to set up backup location ip adress Hyper backup wouldent let me enter the settings. I had to change my NAS to 10.0.0.x and my pc to 10.0.0.x to enter settings. Now the NAS has no internet connection and refuses to change the settings until it has confirmed connection with backup NAS. 1. bring NAS back to backup location or 2. change home net to 10.0.0.x for internet access.
Yes i can change and fix this, tought maby you wanted to know if you got some kind of deal with Synology for "bug" testing.
Love your vids, great explenations, easy to understand. Best i found by far so i subscribed right away. Keep it up.
From Synology support:
It is found to be an UI issue, and we have recorded down the issue.
Once the issue is updated, we will include it in later release.
If you can create a video how to set-up the hyper back-up, either using quickconnect and/or open vpn, that would be great. Get stuck at the point where you make a connection to the off-site NAS. Already tried ..... a lot :)
Hello Lon. Great videos and excellent explanations. I am considering adding a Synology DS415+ to my setup but I have one some problem that I haven't found an answer to. Must of my media is in iTunes on two different machines. Also all my photos are spread across these same two machines. I would really like to consolidate all these into one location and have each of the client machines access them (i.e. itunes or photos on each individual client machine would have access to all the media files and photos). Is this possible or is there a work around?
Thanks
Keith
Hi Lon, great video and hyper backup seems to be really great. However, I have a problem with regards to ip address. I won't be able to set a static ip or dyndns mainly bec my isp uses shared ip(i think its called CGNat, i might be wrong) but basically the isp assigns one ip address for the whole area. So customers is sharing that ip in the area. Encountered this issue 2years ago when i was using dyndns for cctv cameras. Doesn't work now since my isp changed to this technology. Any other way I can do remote backups?
Can you do an example of setting up Open VPN and using that for backup to a remote site?
+1 for this.
I just setup OpenVPN on my local DS and it took a lot of work to sort out getting the SSL working correctly. But now that I've got my remote DS connected as a client I've hot a wall locating it with HyperBackup.
+zawiszaskiresort
+1 I'd love to see you cover certificate options and installation, VPN setup. Your vids are great ! Thanks !!
Great video! I am backing up an RS812 to a DS214 and my intent was to swap a 6TB drive monthly in the DS214 so I have a monthly archive. However, it seems that the Synology OS is not real happy about swapping out the drive. Are you aware of any documentation on this type of usage?
Can you explain what you mean by Have OpenVPN handling the transaction. Would you just enter in your OpenVPN Creds under target?
Definitely need a video on opening ports on a router.
+Kevin Bragdon I agree
+Kevin Bragdon I usually prefer to login to the router and do it manually, but Synology allows you to forwards ports through their DSM software. CONTROL PANEL > EXTERNAL ACCESS > ROUTER CONFIGURATION > SET UP ROUTER > (once the routers set up) > CREATE > Built-in applications or Custom Port. You will only use custom port if you installed 3rd party applications.
+Nicholas Nunez I guess one would have to use Custom Port protocol, if installing software that changes your IP address to hinder tracking.
Thank you for the video and tips on Hyper Backup, but it doesn't seem to have enough options or granularity for my clients. Im assuming it doesn't byte verify the copy nor partition the data into named folders (I use Weekdays, Weeks and Month), nor stop or restart processes, like SQL, for database backups?
I'm a huge fan of SyncBack Pro which lets me slice/dice, encrypt/decrypt, verify, email, stop/start, backup only changes, etc... into/out of clients Synology/Qnap NAS devices. SyncBack does not operate as a device app.
I've seen Hyper Backup in my device apps, but previously just ignored it.
Lon - good video series on DSM 6.0, thank you. I see you have Macs too and am interested in if / how well 6.0 works with Spotlight. Do DSM shares / drives mounted on the Mac provide complete search results, including searches for file type, text content and date ranges?
+Lon Sideman OK thank you. Maybe looking forward to a Mac-centric review of 6.0 at some point...
HI, nice tutorial. Thanks! But I've got a question. Running the backup manual works fine, but scheduled backups all fail. Service or host not available. I'm running DSM 6.0.1-7393 Update 1 on both sides.
Is it posible to do a backup of a shared folder to a non shared folder on the same synology box?
Nice video (Y)
Do I need to change the port in rsync to 6281 or just forword port 6281 to the static ip adress of the nas? I'm trying to do a backup over the internet to another synology nas but I got only the rsync working. The synology to synology can't connect. What do I do wrong?
it this method suitable for disaster recovery? i.e. complete loss of server1?
I stopped using custom backups after my data was lost using them. The software went through an upgrade that was no longer compatible with my new software. I just make backups of all my data across multiple external drives and other computers. It uses more space but I don't mind because the types of files I am backing up aren't altered much if at all.
why can't I simply use the QuickconnectID with Hyper Backup?...it works just fine for Cloud Station ShareSync for which there is no need for DynDNS and opening a port. This would really save the hassle and make the whole Synology usage easier
Agreed, that would be really nice and simple, I wish they would add this too.
If I want to backup to external drive, but then unplug offsite and will do it regularly later on. Do I need to enable backup schedule under setting?
Nice tutorial. it seems to me that you tutorial only works for synology in your own network. Is my understanding correct?
Hi There
i was just wondering if its possible to have one NAS with a large amount of storage that i can use to backup all my different clients Synology NAS that are out there.
is it possible to do a local USB backup on the clients site then use that as a seed drive to do an initial data transfer to my nas then contune with incremental backups across the internet ?
I have 2 Synology disk stations, both in the same network (actually sitting side by side). They have both the same number of drive bays and drives (in fact, all drives are of the same size and from the same OEM). One disk station is a few year older than the other. My problem is I have updated the DSM of the older disk station to the latest DSM, 6.1.4 (from 6.0.1). I also installed the latest Hyper Backup for this disk station as the original factory installed Hyper Backup is incompatible with DSM 6.1.4.
The trouble is, the newer NAS is unable to update the DSM beyond 6.1.2. The Hyper Backup in this newer NAS is quite old, factory release version from 2015. So my question is: Can I follow your backup process to backup the data from the older NAS (which has the latest DSM and Hyper Backup) to the other NAS (which DSM is stuck at 6.1.2 and with even older Hyper Backup)?
My thinking is since all my data and folder hierarchy is in the older NAS, and I am using the (latest) Hyper backup on that NAS to backup the data to the newer NAS (but with older hyper backup), it should not be matter because the key is the hyper backup in the NAS where the data (which I want to backup) is located. The destination backup NAS is just the recipient of the backup and so even though it has the older DSM and older Hyper backup, it doesn't matter. Is my thinking correct?
Thanks in advance.
Hello, I have a question. So, my setup is 2 DS1815+, on two different sites
There is a VPN connection between the 2 sites
My question is about the backup destination :
what is the best choice between the Remote Synology NAS and the Remote RSync Server, which means the Rsync service activated on the destination NAS.
I have been using the RSYNC way for backuping shared folder to the other NAS, but maybe Remote Synology NAS is better ?
Whats the difference between the 2 solutions ?
Thanks !
3:24 - You have your backup server in your home network. But for most of the people, for safety if you are gonna spend money to a second Synology station, you will have it in different place or even city. So how do I find this server if I have one in the company and the other one at home?
Thanks!
We use a synology in our office to back up other clients synology's offsite. Is it possible to backup the clients data on a usb, then copy it onto our synology. Then relink the backup to go over the net? We cannot start a new backup due to customers having large data (1TB+)
I Follow your channel & I want to ask you I need to buy Synology DS415+
But I have a question I have a server data & I needs to a backup data Is it possible to use the program Backup & Replication to Transfer data from the server to synology DS415+ as a backup ...... thanks
Can I use QuickConnect name? Where have I to open port - at home or at remote address?
Is there a way to archive old data (Not back old data) into a second Synology device, so that it removes old data from original Synology device and move to the second device and leave stub so that you can access data from original Synology drive on demand?
Great Video. I think synology should sponsor you do do a video on a more complete topic...certificates. Where and how to get them , how to install them The complete process to make the nas secure with https. . Lots of owners that buy these don't know how to do this properly. Shouldn't security of the nas actually be a major topic that synology would want everyone to have a clear understanding on.
+Richard Humphrey
Synology has made adding a cert very easy now, They have added 'Lets Encrypt' as an option. Answer a few simply questions and the cert is downloaded to you NAS and its free. You just have to make sure port 80 is open to your NAS at the time of signup then after signup you can disable port 80. The only downside is you have to renew it every 3 months and its not automatic. Hope Synology changes this so it will automatically renew.
I do agree with you though, It would be great if Lon would make a video showing people how to create a cert and install it.
+itGEEKS Ray Thanks Ray...But does that get rid of the red x you see when you go to it in a browser. Basically saying it's unsafe. Is what your talking about new in 6.0. I know in old version my browser would show it could not be verified as a safe site and I think that was because it was a machine cert.
Just a question.
SCENARIO:
Synology DS216j at my place
Synology DS215j at friend's place
We have a portion of the drive dedicated to each one backup . So I can backup most important data to his Synology and viceversa.
My question is.
If I set up a VPN from my place to my friend's, using VPN connection of the NAS to his router , is my NAS still reachable over the internet for other services (i.e. Webcam, ftp, etc)??
Hope I've clearly explained
Is there a way to make a backup to a webserver?
How would you backup to an old NAS that is NOT a Synology? Many have upgraded and would like to re-use their old devices.
Hi Lon, is the DSM 6 only in the US as i dont have the update for it (having just checked) as im still on DSM 5.2-5644 Update 5 on both units.
Great information in the video by the way.
I have had 2 models for over a year now. One for backups and another for CCTV and not used any other features within them but i will start doing so now
Many thanks
+Lon Seidman Download Version: 6.0-7321 has come down today.
Many thanks again for your indepth knowledge
HI ! I'm trying to backup a Synology NAS client
to another NAS as server. I try to connect using the HyperBackup wizard, the wizard shows the server's name and adress normally and let me enter user name and password but when and I click the Shared Folder dropdown, I get all the shared folders of the client NAS, and not as in your video the shared folders of the server.Have an idea of what is going wrong ? Thank you for your help.
Is it possible to backup my computer directly to an offsite Synology server? (without needing a second one)
I want to have an offsite backup, but my current local backup is a home server running windows 10 which does a lot more than a synology can - It wouldn't make sense to have a home server and synology in my home AND another synology offsite.
Yes, cloud sync can backup files to a remote synology device. Only 1 Synology device is needed.
Hi Lon, I'm trying to setup a Synology Nas for remote offsite backup. Have 2 Synology ready to go. Should I use Synology Quick connect, VPN, or other service based on security, ease of setup, and performance? I appreciate your feedback.
Do a roll your own VPN.
Can you remote back up Plex movies and play on your remote site. Like a second home.
Great video. I am using 2 factor authentication via google authenticator to access my remote synology NAS. Will Hyperbackup be able to access the remote NAS if two factor authentication is enabled? Thank you
Thanks for the video. I setup my clients DS1515+ as HB Source and DS1313+ as HV Target. Performed a 3-folder, baseline 1.3Tb backup in-house (local network) w/o errors. Ran incremental backups in the office for one week to test/verify daily incremental backups were working - no errors. Moved the target NAS to clients home network with Charter Communications 10Mb service. Clients office Internet service is certified 10Mb. Of the three folders to be backed up, the smallest runs without errors. The other two folders are large, but the incrementals would be less than 10-20Mb each depending on accounting client and tax activity. The incremental's on the two large folders repeatedly timeout and subsequently fail. I'm using Synology's DDNS service and I'm wondering if I should switch to DYDDNS to see if the timeout/failure issues resolved themselves, UNLESS you have some "grand wizard" advice to resolve this issue.
It’s possible you’ve got some upnp issues going on.. have you thought about setting up a VPN?
Thank you for prompt response.
I'll have to assess my clients home router features - VPN, I don't know. The Sonicwall in office is already config'd to allow outbound traffic to the home (target) NAS. I have created a DYNDNS trial acct and will reconfig the clients end (port forwarding) tomorrow. We' ll see if that resolves the disconnect issue during longer Hyper Backup sessions. Otherwise, I'll pursue the VPN solution.
Just setup hyper backup to an Amazon drive. How can I access and view the backed up data on the Amazon drive? Is there a better solution than hyper backup in this situation?
You can use the "backup explorer" through the Hyperbackup tool as I demonstrated in the video. But the files will not be accessible outside of it. An alternative is their Cloud Sync utility that will keep Amazon Drive synced up with your NAS.
Your 2 Synology NAS are on the same network. Whats if the are 100 km away ?
It all depends on your internet connection.
Can you do an openVPN tutorial? Is openVPN the commerical VPN that you purchase (openvpn.net) or is it a free thing that you can setup yourself. Thank you.
That would be awesome. I just bought a new drive to do the backup and in the midst of backing up my current set before moving it over. Would be great to have this tutorial so I can set up the remote side. Looking forward. Hope this is sooner, rather than later!!! And can this be done on any computer, not just Raspberry Pi. For instance, I use Mac.
I want to know how to encrypt and schedule incremental backup (not sync) from Synology Diskstation DS218 data to google drive.
Objective is if I lost my NAS data to fire or some natural disaster or ransomware, I will buy new Synology Diskstation and retrieve my data from google drive.
I want encryption before back up to make sure those who has access to this google drive account (or even google) cannot access backed up data.
I want encrypted backup, NOT SYNC.
If I sync, google and other users of this account can read my data. I don't want it.
Hey Lon. I'm using Synology devices for years now and they work very well. But for now I will stay away from DSM 6 because of the new Hyper Backup.
In older DSM versions files are backed up as a 1:1 copy. The new format is definitely a big issue. A backup has to be _extremely reliable_. But their new format is not well tested (at least some years to call it reliable) and not public documented.
So there is no way I could trust Hyper Backup at all. Maybe Hyper Backup can be trusted with DSM 7 or later. But right now I rather wait an see others run into datalosses and issues.
Great and helpful video. However everything about setting up the offsite IP etc. was like Russian for me. Could you please make a tutorial on how to do this?
how about backing up with amazon glacier?
+Carlos Espinosa Yuo have to use glacier backup app.
Lon, thanks for a great tutorial once again! I would also love having one on opening ports on a router... I'm not super versed into this and struggle for days each time I change home, provider or router...! I have a provider, the modem/router box from the provider, a personal router and my Synology NAS. I couldn't get it to work and uses quickconnect to access it from outside so far as I can't get the sinology.me:5000 address to work out... Thanks!
The only thing with cloud services for backup with consumers is it's speed and cost. Tried several and most turned up interrupted for unknown reason. Unreliable. Am waiting for hard drive prices to drop for an external drive. But then why do I have a NAS for?? Never ending loop!!!
THANK YOU FOR BEING SMART --- THANK YOU FOR BEING SMART --- THANK YOU FOR BEING SMART
Sorry, got a little carried away but I came up with this solution to host my business' backups, and googled the idea for validation. IT IS AWFUL to try to explain to someone, with no conception of IT, this idea. You know, When the close their eyes, shake their heads, and say "Insert any generic PUTERS remark".
It is nice to even be in video and comment company of those who understand...
Great work and video. I have tried to follow your instruction but I'm not allowed to follow the Backup Wizard. I have found this thread and followed it step by step. But it has not solved the problem. Do you have any suggestion?
Here the problem is described:
forum.synology.com/enu/viewtopic.php?t=117484
you need TWO SYNOLOGY NAS to do this?
why cant you just backup over internet to a windows PC?
so useless.