I bought the same NAS because of this video. For Jake's credentials, there is actually an easier way. He can create a user for you on his NAS with permissions only for the shared folder where you are going to upload your offsite backup. By doing so, not only you don't need to remote connect to enter the password, but Jake can also setup a storage quota for your user in case he wants to control that.
14:11 that is NOT deduplication, that is incremental backup. Deduplication is an enterprise level solution for reducing the storage space needed for data that is heavily duplicated at the block level
If by "enterprise level" you mean "every linux computer running an xfs, zfs, bcachefs, or btrfs filesystem" then yes. Deduplication is very much accessible for your average Joe already, as long as you're using a proper filesystem.
Linus I have to hand it to you, the format and ease of watching while learning something new is hard to do correctly - 5 stars for doing such a great job!
Its not 2009 to give 5 stars. ;-) These days woke corpos and us prez are so fragile, even the dislike counter is hidden. Pathetic, I miss the good old days.
I bought the very unit he demonstrated. I was so impressed by it and the DSM OS and realized the larger units had more features I could use so I sold this unit to a friend and upgraded to the 8 bay model that is more powerful. Overall its worth the money.
It is funny how they're saying how cheap this is when the devices cost so much, but I think there may be an underlying (albeit flawed) assumption that you already have many other uses for a NAS. A powerful NAS doesn't just solve one thing, it solves a lot of things, and that's where the savings can come in.
I own one of these, very reliable, has constant software updates to keep it current and safe. It’s worked flawlessly for 4+ years now I highly recommend these. Great NAS’s
Reminds me of the DROBO back in the day. I remember one of the coolest things about it was it was so hot swappable that you could remove a drive while playing video, and despite the striped RAID configuration, your video wouldn't even stutter. Then, you could swap in a new drive and while your video was still playing, it would use the parity of the other drives to rebuild the missing one onto the new one. It was pretty neat tech considering that was 10 years ago.
Should really discourage the use of UPnP. It's not safe. Edit: To clarify, its not safe at the router level. It needs to be disabled on the router. Malicious software can get dropped onto a machine, make a UPnP request, open a port, and then all hell breaks loose. LTT should make a video on securing your network in 2019/20 which covers this topic, as well as some basic networking security fundamentals. An updated OPNsense/PFSense tutorial would be much welcomed by the community.
@Buffy Foster They're very expensive for what they do, and costs skyrocket for an average household when premium hard drives (e.g. WD Reds) and RAID enters the equation. There are cheaper options that are just as hassle-free, like WD My Cloud.
@@Avantime WD MyCloud is absolutely not an alternative for a Synology NAS. It's a good product, don't get me wrong! And it's good for home backups, I mean that's what it's designed for, and it can do other stuff, like Plex. But it's a different class of device. Synology NASes, even home versions, are a lot more powerful and flexible. MyCloud is still closer to a fancy external hard drive that you connect to the network, while a Synology device is an actual small specialized server.
I *could* have set my own NAS, but I got a Synology a *long* time ago and it "just works". Literally no futzing around. It self updates. It has all the bells and whistles I could want. It's got built in offsite backup stuff built in. Are they expensive? Yes. If you consider the support that Synology provides in terms of continuous update to their software though, I really truly think it was a good choice for me. Ultimately, I traded money for time and I am very happy with the ROI.
@@KillahMate The issue with NAS is that people associate them with Synology, and when the average person sees the price tag they immediate say to themselves "I simply can't afford a NAS". Most average people doesn't need the flexibility or the power of a Synology NAS, they just want a safe space to store their family photos (but too many for free cloud storage), have access to movies on multiple computers/TV boxes/Phones etc., and the occasional remote access through PC or mobile app when away from home. Synology NASes are more for home office & professional types who need the features and RAID redundancy for their workflow, but for the average family a WD My Cloud setup will do just fine at a much lower cost, with minimal hassle.
When he said screen share so Jake could enter his password I was very sad! Creating a user account & giving/denying access to folders & applications is really really easy in the UI. I set this exact thing up with a friend recently, we've both got DS918+s!
An alternative to the "use your friends NAS" is to run an hourly/daily snapshot that lasts for say a week (the 918+ does do snapshots). Then backup to an external disk like once a week and keep it at work.
Thank you Linus. I had started using Raid 0 -- 15 yrs ago. And it rescued my bacon on 2 major occasions. The NAS made sense to me, but Your VID sold me and the Purse. Cheers!
Raid 0 can't save your bacon: Data is written (striped) across multiple drives. If one fails you are done. Finished. The R in RAID stands for redundant which in the case of RAID 0 is simply...a total lie.
2:47 "Excuse me, Sir" Linus has it all figured out He knows cats gonna rule this planet one day and when that day comes he wanna be safe Maybe that's what it is............Linus is just an employee, cats are the bosses at Linus Media Group
@@zakshah3480 2 drive redundancy, heaps of people have had a second drive fail when rebuilding 1 failed drive, especially if all the drives are the same age. Shr2 needs 3 drives to all fail out of 4 to lose data. Shr only protects if 1 drive fails, a second easily can on the huge task of rebuilding 1.
14:08 that's not the definition of deduplication, that's just incremental backups. Deduplication is when you have multiple exact same files on a same storage and the system just write the file once and use multiple pointers.
It more than pays for itself within 3-4 years compared to subscriptions though, and you have the added security of continuity should Dropbox or whatever cease to exist. Ideally you want to keep your data through your lifetime, I can’t think of a better way to do it than storing it ‘locally’.
Well, one can always buy a cheaper NAS and smaller disks preserving 99% of Synology SW capabilities. And their lifecycle is really impressive with like cheapest 6 years old model getting all updates and new features that it can handle (video decoding is one example that depends on the HW capabilities). They are really good at SW
Even as an advanced user I love Synology's software. It's so easy and user friendly that anyone can setup an email server, private VPN or cloud drive. At the same time it offers the option to to advanced stuff like deploy any kind of sever you want in a docker container. I mean it's all stuff I could do myself using an old computer as a server but the ease-of-use and compact form factor is easily worth the price of admission.
Synology Nas units are just great, I own a small one and have done for a few years, the issue you need to factor in is buying the drives, buying the unit AND drives can get quite pricey, buy as you rightly point out it is a one off cost. I have had a drive go bad, the nas told me and i slipped a new drive in and lost precisely no data. :) The software is what makes the difference here between say a competitor like QNAP.
Thanks for the reminder. I've been meaning to replace my Synology DS412+ for a while now. While Linus may have started using these, I've been using them for users and I swear they are the best bang for the buck NAS units. Way better than WD's Cloud and on par with Qsnap's.
most people don't have bandwidth caps he was just being nice for old people/peopl that don't really care ... I get 500/500 uncapped also for a decent price
@@CrackedTubeGamer Actually 100% yes - Batteries, even Li-ions degrade over time and will need replacing. Fixing that issue on Dualshock controls requires a complete disassembly vs the simpler approach. The honest fact of the matter is neither are designed with eco-friendlyness in mind as they a a consumer good with an expected life cycle of at most 2 console generations before they are designed to fail to force redundancy.
@@Tom-bb5kh if you aren't storing a lot of data, cloud backups are cheap. If you're pulling a Linus, his method takes a while to pay for itself (54TB of backups costs about $276/month with Backblaze) and you still have the security risk versus a data center.
@@bengrogan9710 It's not a complete disassembly. The dualshock batteries are connected by a modular cable right on the outside. Anyone with a screwdriver and 2 minutes can change it without any risk. Since the more sensible parts are protected
Yeah - at 30seconds in you comment - there's not much to it! AGREED - so why why why are NAS enclosures such a rip off??? It's a small box with low cost components inside on a small MoBo, running a free OS! So where's the expense? Why are we getting ripped with these things? What is their excuse for these high prices?
You can also buy a cheap second hand office PC, even a thin client, throw in a few hard drives and install XPenology. That way you can even upgrade RAM or networking in the future. You won't believe this trick, sponsors hate it!
3:08 I thought Linus is a kind of a person who would disagree to the terms and conditions and then write an email to his PR to give him the same software but without all those conditions.
@@shanetravel You'll love it, I've had my 6 bay one for years now, actually, I had a previous Synology box fail on me, but I was able to just take the hard drives out, put them in a new one, and everything was up and running again in minutes. It's a good piece of mind for things like family movies and irreplacable photos.
@@neoasura yeah i got the 2bay used on clist. i love it really. its sooooo nice with my plex library. how does it work if i want to upgrade?... do i just put the 1 bigger drive in and it takes care of the rest?
5:06 "One way to rescue it though, would be to save this key file somewhere safe, like on a USB drive you put in a security lock box somewhere. " LINUS: Click cancel instead of save...
One thing I wish I knew about Synology devices: every major software upgrade is a pain. They don't provide a way to rollback if anything goes wrong, and also provide no way to check what will break after the upgrade. Literally the only thing you can do is press "Upgrade" button and then live with half of your 3rd-party packages broken with no way to fix them until developers publish an updated version. I honestly did not expect such lack of attention to upgrade path in a device that costs that much.
I mean let's be real, there's like a dozen ways they could have done this. At least one good thing about backups, is that there's a workflow for everyone, and ten ways to do everything you need to do so you can set everything up just the way you need it or like it.
The technical word you looking for is incremental backup. That is the backup that will only transfer the data that has changed since the last backup. I have looked at Synology equipment in the past and it's amazing stuff! I highly recommend them to everybody that does not have a central storage system for their home/small business.
Bought a Synology NAS a couple years ago. Was a great purchase and glad to have my important stuff backed up and mirrored. It's also nice to be able to leave it off unless I need it.
Can you do some more NAS content? Maybe compare the different brands and their software? Show the pros and cons of each? There are SO MANY different ones out there, it's really hard to figure out.
my mom: "I want you to make a digitized copy of all important documents we have" also my mom everytime I tell her that we should get a NAS: "I don't want to hear it I'm sick of it" well gee maybe if we've got one I would stop asking
A dozen year ago, when i had time and could, i would manually backup my mother and sister's pc because they didn't bother. One day, there pc failed, they cried and really thought that all was lost. I just waited 2-3 days before saying I had a backup.
One of my hard drives started failing last week. I've bought a replacement and swapped it out, rebuilding my raid volume. All without even stopping my NAS. Thanks Synology (or any good NAS system for that matter...)
I'm a long time Synology DiskStation owner.. its a GREAT system love them... but they fail to say the Hardware is short lived.. it last for about 3 years and then you have to buy new one... the Software updates are all free and frequent
I use BackBlaze B2 for offsite backups. 1TB only costs about $5/month. In Linus' case, 54 TB a month would be expensive but for me only storing at most 4 TB this isn't a big deal to me.
I watched your video today, (5-20-2020), to get a brief understanding of what a NAS was. Bought a different NAS today for much cheaper than the DS918+, and it's a complete POS. After an afternoon's worth of frustration I'm returning what I bought and used your Amazon link to grab the 918. Expensive, but I'm hoping that the setup/usage will be more pleasant than what I just went through. Thanks for the vid.
@@bundangkorea It all depends on your definition of easy certainly, but like the other guy here said (and as they point out in the video), making it from scratch yourself vs this solution it is certainly easy enough. All the tech jargon is bound to confuse novice users though of course. I don't fully understand all of it and I consider myself fairly tech-savvy. The downside of being self-taught hehe :)
Jake, what you described was NOT data deduplication. What you described is called incremental backups. Data deduplication is the process where the system directly analyzes each file backing up onto the device and comparing it to files that already exist. It does this with all files from all destinations. So let's say two people, on two different computers, back up to this NAS and have the same exact file on each of their machines, it would recognize it is the same exact file and only actually STORE one copy of the file and delete the other copy. If each person had a separate folder on the NAS, they would both see the file as normal in their personal directory, but only one actual copy is stored on the NAS. The point of incremental backups is to reduce physical resource (RAM and CPU) and space usage. Deduplication however is VERY resource intensive while backups are taking place as it has to analyze the files at the block level to ensure that the files being backed up are the exact same file as already exists on the NAS. This is used by major cloud services like Drop Box and Google One so that a million nerds aren't storing the same anime files on their cloud service and filling it up unnecessarily.
From the enterprise space: "A backup is only as good as the restore". If you have never tested the full restore via your disaster recovery plan, then you do NOT have a backup.
7 days of attempted recovery using shady ass software that saw 30TB of data even though 8TB existed, would have taken more than a week to backup at slow ass speed and all the file names/directories hosed. not impressed with QNAP
Huh, so I will need a friend? Does Synology sell those too?
like Linus you can also just pay people. although i don't think Synology can help you there
You could always just 'use' your parents? or maybe a sibling? You'd have to probably pay for their NAS too though...
Amazon Glacier is extremely affordable and supported in the hyper backup tool.
@@ayporos sweet home alabama
All you need to get those is a van and a rope
He just said 56TB and my first thought was "that's not very much". I think I've been watching too much LTT...
for home use not linus office use
well 56TB in LTT terms is small yeah
Too small
@steve sabroe it's easy you just have to imagine 56,000 Gigabytes
@steve sabroe I'm sure you do I was just being a little sarcastic
I bought the same NAS because of this video. For Jake's credentials, there is actually an easier way. He can create a user for you on his NAS with permissions only for the shared folder where you are going to upload your offsite backup. By doing so, not only you don't need to remote connect to enter the password, but Jake can also setup a storage quota for your user in case he wants to control that.
14:11 that is NOT deduplication, that is incremental backup. Deduplication is an enterprise level solution for reducing the storage space needed for data that is heavily duplicated at the block level
well said I was going to say the same thing.
@@PatrickBaldwin1 Same!
And deduplication is a built-in feature of certain file systems (like ZFS). The tradeoff is that it requires huge amounts of RAM.
Glad someone spoke up about that, that made a few backup engineers perk up a bit.
If by "enterprise level" you mean "every linux computer running an xfs, zfs, bcachefs, or btrfs filesystem" then yes. Deduplication is very much accessible for your average Joe already, as long as you're using a proper filesystem.
Linus: "Fortunately, I have friends"
Linus: *remembers he employes them*
Linus: "Or at least people I pay to help me with things"
tbh those are the best kind of friends you can have.... that is as long as you keep paying them.
mICHEAL scott everyone
It's crazy that we watched the same video! Small world
I honestly laughed out loud at this comment.
Linus I have to hand it to you, the format and ease of watching while learning something new is hard to do correctly - 5 stars for doing such a great job!
Its not 2009 to give 5 stars. ;-) These days woke corpos and us prez are so fragile, even the dislike counter is hidden. Pathetic, I miss the good old days.
The product also comes with a box that the cats just can’t deny
If it fits, I sits.
Like every other object shipped in a box ever
My cats have never met a box they didn't like.
LinusCatTips
Linus being more polite to his cat than most people he interacts with...
To be fair, my cat talks to me nicer than most people I interact with. :(
TechyBen so ur saying people do worse than poking ur eye out
@@TechyBen miau to doubt
@@TechyBen this :)
@@awlns725 yes
I bought the very unit he demonstrated. I was so impressed by it and the DSM OS and realized the larger units had more features I could use so I sold this unit to a friend and upgraded to the 8 bay model that is more powerful.
Overall its worth the money.
When you upgraded, we’re you able to keep the same pool without reformatting?
@@Ifalvarado I was
Why didn't you just build a computer? the 8 bay is $1500.
@@stevenferroYou may not understand why most people have a NAS.
They are not meant to replace your PC.
The fact that Lunis still has his wii u plugged in in 2019 makes me smile
lunis
Went through my dads basement a couple weeks ago and found my old wii. SCORE. it had mario games and the gun thing
Got mine too, with almost 1tb of games. i bought all of those games of course. Arrr :D
I still frequently use my gamecube
Legends never die
It is funny how they're saying how cheap this is when the devices cost so much, but I think there may be an underlying (albeit flawed) assumption that you already have many other uses for a NAS. A powerful NAS doesn't just solve one thing, it solves a lot of things, and that's where the savings can come in.
Linus: "Fortunately I have friends, or at least people I pay"......is that why he is always hiring
Imagine Linus being your boss
@@Rainbow__cookie heeeeeeeeey
I thought a friend _was_ a person you pay to help you with stuff? Have I been doing things wrong my whole life?
it's like when michael scott said he wanted 100 kids so they couldn't say no to being his friends
I own one of these, very reliable, has constant software updates to keep it current and safe. It’s worked flawlessly for 4+ years now I highly recommend these. Great NAS’s
well xpenology is a thing, same thing for almost free (if you have an old pc and some drives)
What happens when one of those drives fail ?
@@jaykris9719 get another drive and backup the failed drive so the files go to the newest one. That way you don't lose your data.
Synology: hi Linus, You got a Cat?
Linus: Yeah.. why?
Synology: Cat sells. For the video, please bring a cat.
Reminds me of the DROBO back in the day. I remember one of the coolest things about it was it was so hot swappable that you could remove a drive while playing video, and despite the striped RAID configuration, your video wouldn't even stutter. Then, you could swap in a new drive and while your video was still playing, it would use the parity of the other drives to rebuild the missing one onto the new one. It was pretty neat tech considering that was 10 years ago.
Linus is explaining stuff
Cat does anything
Cameraman: ooohh cat!
Editors: ooohh cat!
Me: oooh cat!
My mom watching over my shoulder: *ooooh cat*
Mr. FBI: Ooohh cat!
That cat is undercover ninja trying to steal his mouse lol😂
This was an easy to follow, simple, 162-Step guide to backing up your data. Bravo gentlemen :)
Should really discourage the use of UPnP. It's not safe.
Edit: To clarify, its not safe at the router level. It needs to be disabled on the router. Malicious software can get dropped onto a machine, make a UPnP request, open a port, and then all hell breaks loose.
LTT should make a video on securing your network in 2019/20 which covers this topic, as well as some basic networking security fundamentals.
An updated OPNsense/PFSense tutorial would be much welcomed by the community.
Not safe, as in easy to attack and compromize. This is exactly what happened to one of my routers.
@@avenged110 WireShark is your friend.
Past Linus: don't buy a NAS. Build your own.
Sponsored Linus: this Synology is cool. Celeron is so powerful
@Buffy Foster They're very expensive for what they do, and costs skyrocket for an average household when premium hard drives (e.g. WD Reds) and RAID enters the equation. There are cheaper options that are just as hassle-free, like WD My Cloud.
@@Avantime WD MyCloud is absolutely not an alternative for a Synology NAS. It's a good product, don't get me wrong! And it's good for home backups, I mean that's what it's designed for, and it can do other stuff, like Plex. But it's a different class of device. Synology NASes, even home versions, are a lot more powerful and flexible. MyCloud is still closer to a fancy external hard drive that you connect to the network, while a Synology device is an actual small specialized server.
@Buffy Foster his advice shouldn't differ when sponsored or not. That's the point
I *could* have set my own NAS, but I got a Synology a *long* time ago and it "just works". Literally no futzing around. It self updates. It has all the bells and whistles I could want. It's got built in offsite backup stuff built in. Are they expensive? Yes. If you consider the support that Synology provides in terms of continuous update to their software though, I really truly think it was a good choice for me.
Ultimately, I traded money for time and I am very happy with the ROI.
@@KillahMate The issue with NAS is that people associate them with Synology, and when the average person sees the price tag they immediate say to themselves "I simply can't afford a NAS". Most average people doesn't need the flexibility or the power of a Synology NAS, they just want a safe space to store their family photos (but too many for free cloud storage), have access to movies on multiple computers/TV boxes/Phones etc., and the occasional remote access through PC or mobile app when away from home. Synology NASes are more for home office & professional types who need the features and RAID redundancy for their workflow, but for the average family a WD My Cloud setup will do just fine at a much lower cost, with minimal hassle.
This is actually a nice and informational sponsored video. Kudos for getting the NAS server up and running!
Instead of letting them remote in I'm pretty sure you could just make a separate user for them in the Synology software.
When he said screen share so Jake could enter his password I was very sad! Creating a user account & giving/denying access to folders & applications is really really easy in the UI. I set this exact thing up with a friend recently, we've both got DS918+s!
@@HOkayson Good too hear!
LastPass also read his input and he could capture Jake's pw at the time
@@smartbbrain The password still doesn't change that you'd still need the encryption key which is demanded at data access
It must be awesome being Linus' cat, imagine all the empty boxes in his house
Hey LTT, I know this is an old video but, would you guys consider doing a "Best Storage/NAS solution for You" video and/or a "NAS vs Cloud" video?
An alternative to the "use your friends NAS" is to run an hourly/daily snapshot that lasts for say a week (the 918+ does do snapshots). Then backup
to an external disk like once a week and keep it at work.
Linus: "Excuse me, sir ".......to a cat
Me: "This is the way."
This is the way
Canadian wae
This is the way.
This is the way.
You need to have ebola, to know the wae
Thank you Linus. I had started using Raid 0 -- 15 yrs ago. And it rescued my bacon on 2 major occasions. The NAS made sense to me, but Your VID sold me and the Purse. Cheers!
Raid 0 can't save your bacon: Data is written (striped) across multiple drives. If one fails you are done. Finished. The R in RAID stands for redundant which in the case of RAID 0 is simply...a total lie.
Just figured out why Linus likes and owns cats.....they always land on their feet.
Dropping problem solved
He straps the most expensive equipment to thier backs
This is way too clever man. Also, your mic just dropped.
ruclips.net/user/LinusCatTips :þ
Oh nooooo
2:47 "Excuse me, Sir"
Linus has it all figured out
He knows cats gonna rule this planet one day and when that day comes he wanna be safe
Maybe that's what it is............Linus is just an employee, cats are the bosses at Linus Media Group
This explains Linus Cat Tips **puts on tinfoil cat ears**
What do you mean "one day"? My cat claims that they already do.
@@larrylentini5688 Linus Catnips. Lttstore.com
"On the cheap"
"Synology"
Pick one.
X....ology, you know
xpenology, old pc, usb stick, some hdds/ssds
When u get a honey ad with linus before the vid even starts
You don't have to be a tech RUclipsr to get great deals on the things you find online
@@OnlyEpicEmber lol ;)
When Linus don't have ads
But then he put ads in the start
What a madlad
Linus ad 1/2 skip ad 5..4..3..2..1..
Never had a Honey add when watching LTT content
Jake out here addressing the camera directly, killing it!
Synology Hybrid Raid is my preferred configuration.
SHR2 is the go
Could you elaborate on why that is?
@@zakshah3480 2 drive redundancy, heaps of people have had a second drive fail when rebuilding 1 failed drive, especially if all the drives are the same age. Shr2 needs 3 drives to all fail out of 4 to lose data.
Shr only protects if 1 drive fails, a second easily can on the huge task of rebuilding 1.
I did not choose SHR because I did not want to be locked to Synology. But in retrospect SHR > Raid 5.
Jake's explanation of deduplication means incremental backup. :) Deduplication is when you do not save the same unique blocks twice.
0:07 *A wild black Shadow appears!*
(bottom right corner)
14:08 that's not the definition of deduplication, that's just incremental backups. Deduplication is when you have multiple exact same files on a same storage and the system just write the file once and use multiple pointers.
This is the calmest I've ever seen Linus... I hope he's alright
Probly thinking about how he knows it would be so much better to build a nas, but he's still making an ad for it anyway.
maybe he's high
something inside of him died because the amount of apple product in his office
get 6 more likes because your at 63
It's because this whole thing is scripted unlike his other videos.
Synology is amazing. This is why y recently upgraded to an RS1219+
Agreed.. Synology makes great hardware.
how much does this kind of setup cost? what if it was only 10tb?
8:58 Way better "birds and the bees" explanation than my parents ever gave me
Lol
Love Synology stuff - I have a unit that has been running non stop for 6+ years - no issue's at all, last HDD change 4+ years ago.
Upgrade?
Hey could you tell the max speed of wifi transfer from lap/phone to NAS while using HDD?
hey i actually have one of these, works great, a good way to share files across the house and back stuff up
How big is your house? Lots of people and devices? What storage are you running?
Internet bandwidth?
"on the cheap" says the guy as he installs an
almost $3k usd device.
Its $500...
@@Ultimatelocke yes, but the hard drives he put into the system (4 Iron wolf 14 tb hard drives) sell for around 450 each, plus the base unit
Kevin Hill I went to price it out because I thought it was a cool idea. Nope.
What was the price of a pretty expensive dropbox account again? I mean there are a lot of adventages to getting a NAS.... price is not!
It more than pays for itself within 3-4 years compared to subscriptions though, and you have the added security of continuity should Dropbox or whatever cease to exist. Ideally you want to keep your data through your lifetime, I can’t think of a better way to do it than storing it ‘locally’.
Based on the title and thumbnail: Backing up is as easy as spending thousands of dollars on a NAS.
I have one that was 350 with 2 drives
nothing wrong with LTT covering tech for small businesses as well as individuals
mine was £300 all in, 2 bay synology nas + 2x4tb
Right? He makes the comparision to dropbox pricing while this NAS with that amount of storage sets you back $2000 before you can even start.
Well, one can always buy a cheaper NAS and smaller disks preserving 99% of Synology SW capabilities. And their lifecycle is really impressive with like cheapest 6 years old model getting all updates and new features that it can handle (video decoding is one example that depends on the HW capabilities). They are really good at SW
Even as an advanced user I love Synology's software. It's so easy and user friendly that anyone can setup an email server, private VPN or cloud drive. At the same time it offers the option to to advanced stuff like deploy any kind of sever you want in a docker container. I mean it's all stuff I could do myself using an old computer as a server but the ease-of-use and compact form factor is easily worth the price of admission.
Synology Nas units are just great, I own a small one and have done for a few years, the issue you need to factor in is buying the drives, buying the unit AND drives can get quite pricey, buy as you rightly point out it is a one off cost. I have had a drive go bad, the nas told me and i slipped a new drive in and lost precisely no data. :) The software is what makes the difference here between say a competitor like QNAP.
Thanks for the reminder. I've been meaning to replace my Synology DS412+ for a while now. While Linus may have started using these, I've been using them for users and I swear they are the best bang for the buck NAS units. Way better than WD's Cloud and on par with Qsnap's.
Hey could you tell the max speed of wifi transfer from lap/phone to NAS while using SSD?
Linus 2019: Fortunately i have friends, or at least people that I pay to...help me with things.
That would be the best way to make a friend...
I can't be the only one that just cheaps out and builds a hand me down pc out of old parts and stuffs it full of drives because it's cheaper.
cries in 28ct/kWh
Are you runnning Xpenology?
Currently running 3 external drives (3tb => 4tb => 4tb) for backups... Still cheaper than an (empty) NAS...
No, you are not! Got like 5 of them... kkkk
Kielan
My home storage server is just an HP Pavillion with an AMD X4. Just slap a Samsung Evo SSD in it and you are flying!
5:50 You can do it with windows backup just add synology as network drive. And in windows backup select folders you would like to backup.
The backup to a friend is great until they get mad and format your drive!
7:12 "In the event of a housefire for example"
(Voice in my head: Hey guys, I'm Austin.)
14:26 bandwidth cap?
*Laughs in European*
Same, 1000mb/s download & upload 24/7 how much I want
Same here
500/500Mbps @ 29$ a month uncapped!
LimbXit Sweet!
25Mbps/5Mbps for $45.00 a month.......uncapped though. (US)
most people don't have bandwidth caps he was just being nice for old people/peopl that don't really care ... I get 500/500 uncapped also for a decent price
"You need a friend with a NAS", so where do I get a friend?
Having a mum is sufficient too. Talking from experience... :'(
Or at least people that you pay
"or at least people that I pay"
So, basically, you need to pay someone to get a friend
Look on amazon
They aren't packageable. At least, not without significant difficulty.
"cloud backup can be expensive" - The guy setting up 2x3000 dollar NAS setups
@@Mocha. He's not out of touch though. He didn't say you need to buy 48TB of storage. The main subject was the NAS, which isn't that expensive at all.
@@CrackedTubeGamer As disposable as the user wants them to be - USB chargable li-ion's are a thing
@@CrackedTubeGamer Actually 100% yes - Batteries, even Li-ions degrade over time and will need replacing.
Fixing that issue on Dualshock controls requires a complete disassembly vs the simpler approach.
The honest fact of the matter is neither are designed with eco-friendlyness in mind as they a a consumer good with an expected life cycle of at most 2 console generations before they are designed to fail to force redundancy.
@@Tom-bb5kh if you aren't storing a lot of data, cloud backups are cheap. If you're pulling a Linus, his method takes a while to pay for itself (54TB of backups costs about $276/month with Backblaze) and you still have the security risk versus a data center.
@@bengrogan9710 It's not a complete disassembly. The dualshock batteries are connected by a modular cable right on the outside. Anyone with a screwdriver and 2 minutes can change it without any risk. Since the more sensible parts are protected
Linus doesn't have friends, he has people that he pays.
These people pay Linus to be his friends
‘Friends” is overrated these days.
@@denisbbb218 Ummmm... no. Friends are not underrated. You must have crappy friends.
ThatsTheJoke.jpeg
I once paid someone to come over
I believe the cats that behave well end up in heaven that is Linus's house with a lot of boxes
Yeah - at 30seconds in you comment - there's not much to it! AGREED - so why why why are NAS enclosures such a rip off??? It's a small box with low cost components inside on a small MoBo, running a free OS! So where's the expense? Why are we getting ripped with these things? What is their excuse for these high prices?
Linus: most secure way to have them put in their password
LastPass: save password for "jake"?
12:20 lmao
These guys should really read about user accounts, lol
Me: Oh a NAS.. thats actual affordable cool
Also Me: CLicks on the links to buy
Me: imma head out..
You can also buy a cheap second hand office PC, even a thin client, throw in a few hard drives and install XPenology. That way you can even upgrade RAM or networking in the future. You won't believe this trick, sponsors hate it!
@Jokus Jodokus what about it? You configure it in the same way you do on a native synology device but RAID is obviously not a back-up.
@@martijn86 i know right..
500 bucks for a Celeron CPU, this video is a fucking AD.
JDM_WAAAT has actually cheap NAS builds on his channel
Who would any normal human know how to do all that without this channel. Holly hell that was complicated.
3:08 I thought Linus is a kind of a person who would disagree to the terms and conditions and then write an email to his PR to give him the same software but without all those conditions.
People: You should back up your data
Me: No, I don't think I will
TIK I understood that reference
Murphy's Law: Data? What data?
@@shinyhappyrem8728 exactly
i went out and bought a synology nas after watching this.
thank you linus!!!!
got a DS718+ with 2x 6GB Drives
Shane i hope you mean 6tb
@@SuperCookieGaming_ haha yes. my stupid ass.
@@shanetravel You'll love it, I've had my 6 bay one for years now, actually, I had a previous Synology box fail on me, but I was able to just take the hard drives out, put them in a new one, and everything was up and running again in minutes. It's a good piece of mind for things like family movies and irreplacable photos.
@@neoasura yeah i got the 2bay used on clist.
i love it really. its sooooo nice with my plex library.
how does it work if i want to upgrade?... do i just put the 1 bigger drive in and it takes care of the rest?
Thanks for the tip Linus! I will remember this and if I ever get diagnosed with cancer I'll buy one of these.
You need to back up before the cancer is in the body, or your backup will have cancer
5:06 "One way to rescue it though, would be to save this key file somewhere safe, like on a USB drive you put in a security lock box somewhere. "
LINUS: Click cancel instead of save...
One thing I wish I knew about Synology devices: every major software upgrade is a pain. They don't provide a way to rollback if anything goes wrong, and also provide no way to check what will break after the upgrade. Literally the only thing you can do is press "Upgrade" button and then live with half of your 3rd-party packages broken with no way to fix them until developers publish an updated version.
I honestly did not expect such lack of attention to upgrade path in a device that costs that much.
Bought a smaller one from Synology few months ago and can only recommend it, super easy to setup :)
Synology should really update their products more often, or lower prices on existing. No one wants to pay full price for a 3 year old product.
Agreed, If I get their cycle correct they should release next year a bunch of new 2bay NAS (they did this until now every 2 years)
Thank you for petting the kitty. My anxiety levels halved
When he said "I have friends-- or at least people I pay to help me" i really felt that
"Money can't buy love or happiness"
Linus: _Am I a joke to you?_
"at least people that I pay..." *stares deeply into the void that is his future*
I laughed pretty hard at that.
"My dank memes" - those are the super important files that you need to keep extra safe with encryption and backups
I see you’ve started a Linusology cult there
Where do I sign up?
MarketMan1986 in the LTT Minecraft server. There will be a ritual in 6 hours exactly
@@awlns725 MC server?
you really do feel like a big brother at this point. You always have a video for everything I go to do
With how little is involved with 4 bay NAS servers you would think the price level would be more like $200, rather than $500.
You dont need to remote to connect vault, Jake could have created account "linus" with permissions to acces his share and vault only
I mean let's be real, there's like a dozen ways they could have done this. At least one good thing about backups, is that there's a workflow for everyone, and ten ways to do everything you need to do so you can set everything up just the way you need it or like it.
And also, using admin to sync files. 🤦♂️
The technical word you looking for is incremental backup. That is the backup that will only transfer the data that has changed since the last backup.
I have looked at Synology equipment in the past and it's amazing stuff! I highly recommend them to everybody that does not have a central storage system for their home/small business.
I find it strange you guys have not done any Synology videos previously, their equipment is awesome.
4 months ago Linus: HERE'S JELLYFISH FRYER.
Also today's Linus: TRY THIS! SYNOLOGY!
Bought a Synology NAS a couple years ago. Was a great purchase and glad to have my important stuff backed up and mirrored. It's also nice to be able to leave it off unless I need it.
Backup can also just be a good fireproof safe full of burned DVD's. You don't have to trust anyone.
literally just bought that thing a couple weeks ago. Such good software.
Thanks a ton for this easy-to-understand video. Makes backup system setup a lot less intimidating.
Can you do some more NAS content? Maybe compare the different brands and their software? Show the pros and cons of each? There are SO MANY different ones out there, it's really hard to figure out.
1:27 - the most efficient trap for a cat
Linus: "There's a lot of stuff on a Windows PC that's not exactly essential"...........um like Windows
This is EXACTLY the kind of solution I was looking for- I even posted a thread on the LTT forums about it a month or two ago. Thanks guys!
The timing of this video is amazing. I just lost a couple of my files 😂
Ayush Srivastava illuminate confirmed.
my mom: "I want you to make a digitized copy of all important documents we have"
also my mom everytime I tell her that we should get a NAS: "I don't want to hear it I'm sick of it"
well gee maybe if we've got one I would stop asking
Tell her about the cool stuff it does and how it can help in other ways.
or just go ahead and implement it. :)
A dozen year ago, when i had time and could, i would manually backup my mother and sister's pc because they didn't bother.
One day, there pc failed, they cried and really thought that all was lost. I just waited 2-3 days before saying I had a backup.
Hashirama Senju . The two statements aren't related to eachother.
Call it something else and get one anyway.
One of my hard drives started failing last week. I've bought a replacement and swapped it out, rebuilding my raid volume. All without even stopping my NAS. Thanks Synology (or any good NAS system for that matter...)
7:26 with money, you can buy everything :D
I'm a long time Synology DiskStation owner.. its a GREAT system love them... but they fail to say the Hardware is short lived.. it last for about 3 years and then you have to buy new one... the Software updates are all free and frequent
I use BackBlaze B2 for offsite backups. 1TB only costs about $5/month. In Linus' case, 54 TB a month would be expensive but for me only storing at most 4 TB this isn't a big deal to me.
Linus: "Oh, I have friends, real friends"
Linus' friends: "Yes, we love Linus"
Giveaway is USA only
**crying in European**
Adam Buckley Laughs in Freedom 🤣
Whats funny not even Canadians can enter
Drazen Graves Oh sweet irony lol
@@endless031 I wish I could take back my likes for the giveaway now :p why not save us all some time and ask what country when its US only damn it.
@@MichaelBSteeleAviation Haha, it's funny. You Americans still think you are in the land of the free? :D
I watched your video today, (5-20-2020), to get a brief understanding of what a NAS was.
Bought a different NAS today for much cheaper than the DS918+, and it's a complete POS.
After an afternoon's worth of frustration I'm returning what I bought and used your Amazon link to grab the 918.
Expensive, but I'm hoping that the setup/usage will be more pleasant than what I just went through.
Thanks for the vid.
Backing up your life is this easy!
Me 5 min into the video: This doesn't look easy.
My thoughts exactly. Easy for them, not so easy for me
Compared to making all this as DIY project, it is easy.
@@bundangkorea It all depends on your definition of easy certainly, but like the other guy here said (and as they point out in the video), making it from scratch yourself vs this solution it is certainly easy enough. All the tech jargon is bound to confuse novice users though of course. I don't fully understand all of it and I consider myself fairly tech-savvy. The downside of being self-taught hehe :)
When you make a tutorial that only 0.001% of the fans will actually follow
thats like a 100 people, thats still quite alot.
do you need to be capable of understanding everything without effort? no
@@TrTriTrippin
What are you even talking about, cause I'm taking about money
Actually this is quite useful. It has a bit further to go before it’s really usable by the mainstream, but it’s a great start.
I followed it
Jake, what you described was NOT data deduplication. What you described is called incremental backups. Data deduplication is the process where the system directly analyzes each file backing up onto the device and comparing it to files that already exist. It does this with all files from all destinations.
So let's say two people, on two different computers, back up to this NAS and have the same exact file on each of their machines, it would recognize it is the same exact file and only actually STORE one copy of the file and delete the other copy. If each person had a separate folder on the NAS, they would both see the file as normal in their personal directory, but only one actual copy is stored on the NAS.
The point of incremental backups is to reduce physical resource (RAM and CPU) and space usage. Deduplication however is VERY resource intensive while backups are taking place as it has to analyze the files at the block level to ensure that the files being backed up are the exact same file as already exists on the NAS. This is used by major cloud services like Drop Box and Google One so that a million nerds aren't storing the same anime files on their cloud service and filling it up unnecessarily.
From the enterprise space: "A backup is only as good as the restore". If you have never tested the full restore via your disaster recovery plan, then you do NOT have a backup.
Good advice
Also backup the password if it's somthing you might forget, i.e. something actually secure. On paper in multiple locations.
I feel like you're a person who appreciates how far Jake missed the mark with dedupe. he just described incremental backup
Jack Evans isn’t that security disaster?
7 days of attempted recovery using shady ass software that saw 30TB of data even though 8TB existed, would have taken more than a week to backup at slow ass speed and all the file names/directories hosed. not impressed with QNAP
You deserve way more subs for the amount of videos you uploaded and time you spent