5 reasons you DO NOT need a NAS

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  • Опубликовано: 16 июн 2024
  • This tutorial goes over 5 reasons why you should not buy a NAS, but instead a DAS. A DAS is a much simpler setup and also can give you significantly more performance at a much lower cost than a NAS.
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    TOC:
    0:00 intro
    1:15 NAS vs DAS
    2:33 Program incompatibility
    3:38 NAS are complex
    4:40 NAS are slower
    6:55 you only have one computer
    7:45 Backup costs
    9:25 outro
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  • @timotmon
    @timotmon Год назад +137

    I didn't need one.... but now I'm addicted to it. So now I neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed it.

    • @MrSunDevil23
      @MrSunDevil23 Год назад +5

      I basically bought my first NAS (DS418) for Plex but now that I have over 10 Tb of digitized movies and 18,000+ songs I had to upgrade to a DS902+. I LOOOOOVE my NASes and they are capable of so much other than just file storage.

    • @KRobGaming
      @KRobGaming 26 дней назад

      i searced for a own cloud solution and found that and needed it. now im here and dont know anymore

  • @DavidM2002
    @DavidM2002 Год назад +258

    And 5 reasons you DO need a NAS:
    1) Great educational value on managing a small network
    2) You can break stuff ( virtually ) with a NAS and recover without disrupting your desktop / laptop work
    3) You don't know what you don't know... that is, a whole world of opportunity opens up when you see what you can do with a NAS. Things you never thought possible and other things you never considered doing because you didn't know you could.
    4) You can access your files relatively securely from anywhere in the world without using a cloud storage system. That may also pay for a NAS in cloud cost savings because you may not need your cloud service any more.
    5) If you buy somewhat noisy HDD's for your NAS, and keep your NAS in the guest bedroom, the in-laws won't stay any longer than one night.

    • @notreallyme425
      @notreallyme425 Год назад +16

      Add Google photos replacement to the list

    • @gfriedman99
      @gfriedman99 Год назад +6

      @@notreallyme425 That's the killer app driving NAS sales I would submit.

    • @TazzSmk
      @TazzSmk Год назад +14

      1) you better want virtualization server for that
      2) you better want virtualization server for that
      3) you better want virtualization server for that
      4) you better want selfhosted VPN server for securely accessing your data over internet
      5) now that's a #ProTip :D

    • @williamhicks2763
      @williamhicks2763 Год назад +4

      @@TazzSmk Any recommendations for a CPU/motherboard combo for a virtualization server hat supports ECC? Been having trouble nailing that down. Seeing the new Intel chips Linus was talking about today made me think I might want to hold off until they are released.

    • @TazzSmk
      @TazzSmk Год назад +4

      @@williamhicks2763 ah yea, new Intel HEDT platform would be good choice,
      though ECC is fairly overrated, you don't "need" it in a home server, consumer-grade NASes don't have it too

  • @BachusNRW
    @BachusNRW Год назад +62

    On Windows, you can use the "subst" command to mount a NAS share so that Lightroom thinks it is a local drive. I have my Lightroom catalog on a DS1821+ with 10gbit connectivity and it actually works quite well.

    • @SpaceRexWill
      @SpaceRexWill  Год назад +20

      This is really good info. I did not realize that subst hid the fact it was a network drive

    • @hansip87
      @hansip87 Год назад +1

      so what's the diff with map network drive straight from File Explorer?

    • @SpaceRexWill
      @SpaceRexWill  Год назад +5

      What you do is you map the network drive, then you uses subst to change the path to a different path

    • @hansip87
      @hansip87 Год назад +3

      @@SpaceRexWill ahh.. i got it, just tried it and it works whereas mapped network drive only is still detected by lightroom as network drive so subst is to mask it as local drive. But tbh with my 918+ and 2 gigs connection, it's a bit slow with subst. If one have big enough local storage, then syno drive synced folder is still a faster solution. Thanks btw for the Subst cmd.

    • @williamhicks2763
      @williamhicks2763 Год назад +5

      @@hansip87 The way I’ve been working is to check the box during import in Lightroom to create a second copy of my RAW/AWR files to a mapped network share on the NAS but I do all the editing on my local machine. I export JPEG directly to albums on the NAS. Every so often I copy my catalog up to the NAS, which also gets backed up, and that has been a good workflow for me. If I get my network up to speed I could see editing directly from the NAS, but editing locally means I do have yet another copy if anything were to go wrong with the NAS where it would be down for a while. I did have to RMA it once and another time I had to wait a week or so to replace the power supply. Good tip though.

  • @joserosado4667
    @joserosado4667 9 месяцев назад +7

    Thank you for clearing the air on whether or not most people need a NAS. I truly was considering getting on but since watching your video may wait until I really need one. Keep up the great work!

  • @roydressel
    @roydressel 4 месяца назад +5

    Thanks for the video. I was looking into a NAS for a little while, thinking I needed one, but after watching your video and taking a look at my situation where most of my storage is actually archival, I don't need to access those files for a long time if ever so I decided to go a different route.

    • @BlackNumber0ne
      @BlackNumber0ne 3 месяца назад

      Same here. The hype concerning the need for a NAS is big, one might be easily swept away by it. Thankfully, videos and clarification like this do exist. 👌

  • @BainesMkII
    @BainesMkII 10 месяцев назад +18

    I feel this video could benefit from a section covering "do you really need a NAS?" section, covering more edge case scenarios. For example, while you briefly acknowledge that there are multi-drive DAS options with RAID support (giving you the data protection you don't have with a single drive DAS), those options seem to negate any price and at least some of the complexity advantages over NAS. (And no, services like Backblaze aren't a blanket solution for someone who doesn't have an internet connection that makes it trivial to move several TBs of data.)

  • @Jessehermansonphotography
    @Jessehermansonphotography 2 месяца назад +4

    One last thing. If you aren’t very tech savvy, and have alot of sensitive (to you) data. It’s much more secure to have a DAS. If all your data is on your internal network, without proper security, all your data is ripe for the picking. Most folks don’t have a good background in tech to set up proper network security.
    Also, multiple users and multiple computers just opens up the possibility that someone will make a mistake and become compromised. One computer, one user (myself) is a lot easier to control. (Coming from a systems admin for a manufacturing company)

  • @mrpunedangle7875
    @mrpunedangle7875 Год назад +18

    "you dont need a NAS!" proceeds to advertise a paid cloud storage lol

  • @MrTwixraider
    @MrTwixraider Год назад +13

    I didn't need a NAS , I just needed a storage for all my pictures, which are also backuped in a cloud. But I bought a NAS an now I will never go back, because it does much more then store pictures and I love it. I now can acces my files from different devices, also I use notes, calendar and backing up my computers and for backing up my NAS I use an external storage which is always connected to the NAS.

    • @9718049817
      @9718049817 2 месяца назад

      What are you using for NAS?

    • @tomcha1234
      @tomcha1234 2 месяца назад +2

      that is exactly why I am buying a NAS :D I don't want to pay monthly fee to google or other cloud service.

  • @iFritRodriguez
    @iFritRodriguez 5 месяцев назад

    I agree took me 2 days setup my NAS multiple times to reinstall the OS just to make the proper configurations, and yes, this is my first time setting up NAS and I'm a newbie to this

  • @robertleem5643
    @robertleem5643 Год назад +5

    Excellent videos, I initially bought a DAS and copied all my files to it, 3 months later I bought the Synology 920+ and haven't looked back, I watched numerous videos on youtube including many by SpaceRex on how to setup a NAS and within the hour I was up and running. I initially had one Toshiba 14tb hard drive and have bought 2 more over the last couple of months. I use it in SHR mode.
    The NAS is my primary drive and I back it up every month to my DAS
    The other beauty of the NAS is that I have set it up as a media server and watch all my movies and TV series though it via Jellyfin, we went to the Lake District a month ago and I connected up to my NAS and in the evening we were watching our movies
    I just wish I'd have made the decision sooner
    Many thanks to SpaceRex for all the video's made my life easier

    • @schultzeworks
      @schultzeworks 11 месяцев назад

      Back up to the cloud as well. Having both NAS & DAS copies in the same room is risky.

    • @robertleem5643
      @robertleem5643 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@schultzeworks They are in separate rooms and I also have a separate 14tb with the essentials on which is kept at my parents. I don't see the pointing in paying out for 12tb of data, won't be cheap

    • @schultzeworks
      @schultzeworks 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@robertleem5643 First, I have friends that lost ALL data (and back-ups) due to a robbery. The crooks took the primary and the back-up. So, off-site cloud services are always the best, which is what I recommend. Secondly, I can log in to the back-up cloud service any time to retrieve data. (Which is also available on many NAS drives as well.) But, this is not the case if they are offline … another thing to watch out for. My office power company is going offline for 8 hours this Sunday. So, no access if I need it.

    • @kk6ou
      @kk6ou 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@schultzeworks This is a good point. Having all your backup in your house is a little risky but for me cloud backup would be $60/month. I backup critical data on a large external HD and store that in a fire resistant safe (which weighs about 500lb so would be next to impossible to cart away). If someone goes through the house and steals my NAS and PC I would only lose things like movies. Before I got the safe I use to store my external drive in a safe deposit box in a bank.

    • @ZioVelvet
      @ZioVelvet 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@kk6ou I bought a 10TB 'lifetime' cloud storage with Filen on last Black Friday. It is zero knowledge E2EE so you can store whatever you like. Yes, it was expensive at around €999 ($1075) but you keep it until their service ends (hopefully more than 5-10 years). Yes, it's risky but if the service lasts at least 3 years it'd be still way cheaper at $30/month.
      Now that Black Friday ended they removed their lifetime offers, but every few months their lifetime pop up. They do offer also subscriptions which I usually avoid cause more expensive in the long period.

  • @cuerpodeluz555
    @cuerpodeluz555 10 месяцев назад

    Broo thanks for all your videos! Great energy that you give out

  • @07GoldWinger
    @07GoldWinger Год назад +2

    @SpaceRex your videos only contribute to my problem of investing into my NAS environment :) I am a home user with 3 Synology's totaling 26 drives of over 170 TB capacity :) Keep 'em coming! LOL!

  • @omargarcia1291
    @omargarcia1291 Месяц назад

    This video actually put some things in perspective for me. Ive been wanting to expand my storage on my main PC which I use as a plex server. everywhere I've asked for advice they just tell me to build a NAS instead. But the more I've looked into it, the more I realize I really only need a JBOD or DAS. It's pretty much plug and play and it does exactly what I need without over complicating it and it saves me a ton of money.

  • @paisastic
    @paisastic 6 месяцев назад +1

    Very useful content. Thanks

  • @darkrangersinc
    @darkrangersinc 3 месяца назад

    I was looking for one for just cheeper bulk storage than the NVME SSDs I’m using now and thought NAS the way to go but since I don’t need any network capabilities this video helped me decide on a DAS

  • @valentinmoeller
    @valentinmoeller Год назад +4

    I backed up my NAS to Hetzner Storage Box for 13€/month for 5 TB. I think that’s quite a good price.

  • @notreallyme425
    @notreallyme425 Год назад +2

    5:21 I use Synology Drive on my main computer and pin local copies of the files and directories that I use most. I seem to get the same performance as the file being stored locally.

  • @1BSDjunkie
    @1BSDjunkie Год назад +5

    Very nice video! Have been going with a DAS myself instead of a NAS, but sadly Drobo stopped supporting their hardware drivers with each successive version of macOS.

    • @badboyboydc6779
      @badboyboydc6779 5 месяцев назад

      Drobo is anything but smooth on macOS. Very difficult.

  • @seansingh4421
    @seansingh4421 9 месяцев назад +6

    Biggest reason I think NAS are the best thing ever is data protection. With software raid, redundant drives, parity drives, automatic smart scans and the robust quality of nas grade drives is unparalleled by those clunky external drives that are made so cheaply and fail without any warning.

    • @helloitsmehb
      @helloitsmehb 5 месяцев назад

      You can do the same with a RAID in a DAS enclosure

    • @Sol4rOnYt
      @Sol4rOnYt 2 месяца назад

      fr, those DASs are known for being unrealiable

  • @user-od4gs3iu4t
    @user-od4gs3iu4t Месяц назад +1

    I dunno why but this person reminds me of Jim Carrey. I try to figure out what is similar: is it hair style, face profile, t shirt in some of the movies, voice, mimics, gestures, or rather a combination of all together?

  •  10 месяцев назад +5

    So here is my "problem" with DAS and maybe you have the answer.
    I find a LOT of different options to buy but when it comes to actual capacity and features coming with these they're rather limited or misleading specs on the data sheets.
    I don't have too many criteria, just wanting a robust docking stations with multiple bays AND working via USB-C using the full bandwidth. I don't mind having to deal with a power brick and paying the price if the board and connectors are solid. At the end of the day I almost feel like just buying the big tower computer and throw the whole stack in there. EXCEPT that it's no longer a backup in case my computer and data get compromised.
    Ideally I'd put my DAS power supply behind some automation so I can power it up on demand.

  • @trollingprophet
    @trollingprophet Год назад +1

    I'm so glad i found this video before buying a NAS when I just need a DAS ;D

  • @alin.danila
    @alin.danila 8 месяцев назад +2

    I am one of those people with just 1 desktop (Mac Studio) and 1 user (myself) without any external access needs.
    Currently using 2 external HDDs (G-drive) in a manual “mirror” config using Carbon Copy Cloner.
    Still i’m looking into getting a NAS for the following reasons :
    - A currently Mac bug is almost killing external HDDs with constant spin up/down cycles … you have to shut down the Mac every time after use (say goodbye to the convenience of using sleep mode)
    - Offsite online backup easier on the NAS: you don’t have to leave your PC on for every backup to finish. NAS will take care of it on it’s own while you sleep.
    - Bit Rot protection: BTRFS and data scrubbing + error recovery on the NAS. Basically ZERO easy solution for an external HDD as DAS.
    - Aditional tests (like SMART) done independently on the NAS while you sleep.
    - Overall better protection for your data because all of the above.
    Last:
    Cool nice to have services:
    - whole house video server, stream your home videos on the Living Room TV without the PC being on
    - whole house music server
    - whole house pictures server (Synology Photos)
    - etc

  • @cesarebonazza
    @cesarebonazza 6 месяцев назад

    This is what I need it to know. thank you

  • @blackie5566
    @blackie5566 6 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you, great comparison, which is very helpful. As a long term NAS user myself, there is one point I want to throw in here: what if the NAS itself fails? I had a faulty QNAP-NAS and wasn't able to repair it myself. So all the data was safed, but not approachable. It wasn't easy then, to recover the data from the HDD's. I think for someone, who has no IT-knowledge, a faulty NAS can get very tricky then. Therefore I would recommend anyone to start with a DAS. But that is my opinion ;-). Love your channel, great work, thank you!

    • @MrVidification
      @MrVidification 4 месяца назад

      I thought of getting a multi drawer das docking station for at least four 3.5 or 2.5 drives, but even then reviews will sometimes mention failures with well known brand docks that corrupt data. The drawer system is always preferable to multiple portable usb hdds or any cloud service though..

  • @electrolabs3237
    @electrolabs3237 2 месяца назад +1

    Oh, I didn't know the DAS existed. It's new to me. But now I know!

  • @brookrichardson1373
    @brookrichardson1373 Год назад +3

    I would like to see a video on some DAS systems and if there are any as flexible as a Synology NAS.

  • @mikefiatx19
    @mikefiatx19 2 месяца назад +2

    My DAS just died. I have a 2nd DAS but I wish i had a RAID NAS.

  • @mellangestudio
    @mellangestudio 2 месяца назад

    great video. i think i "want" a nas but only "need" a das. what das do u recommend? I'd like to edit video from it as well as use it as a back for about 30-50tb of files. Thanks!

  • @pimplefacedprick2595
    @pimplefacedprick2595 День назад

    Title is comedic gold and no one is talking about it. I feel like I DO need a NAS. -Badum Tss..

  • @daveg4417
    @daveg4417 11 месяцев назад

    I have a 2 bay Synology NAS simply as another level of file backup for all of my computers in my house. It holds current copies of the data for all of my computers in one central location.

  • @erroneouscode
    @erroneouscode 10 месяцев назад +4

    All these complicated systems of storage incorporating NAS, Cloud storage, encryption, passwords etc etc. It's fine being tech savvy but how many people ever consider their non tech savvy dependents being able to access files and data if they die.

  • @MartinV.
    @MartinV. Год назад

    Great Video!!

  • @tokyojerry
    @tokyojerry 12 дней назад

    In terms of having massive local storage, I can agree with the concept of using a DAS. over. a NAS. but there's one major function a DAS cannot give you. Being able to access, and synchronize my data from anywhere at any time globally. I'm looking into trying to do that with my router. If so, I will gladly part with the DAS.

  • @heinz2554
    @heinz2554 2 дня назад +1

    I really want a nas but don’t really need it. What happens if your nas suddenly breaks, stolen, fire etc. I still hate the fact that google cloud is still the best solution for me.

  • @kychemclass5850
    @kychemclass5850 Год назад

    Good advice. Tq.

  • @williamhicks2763
    @williamhicks2763 Год назад +8

    I say, if you are new to NAS and don’t have much experience is managing users and groups and firewalls, you can spend weeks, not hours, getting organized and secure. Then you need backups and offsite backups if you really want to preserve that data. I think it’s worth it. Love my NAS but it took a lot of work to configure and organize to my liking. My biggest concern is leaving it to my wife who wouldn’t know how it’s setup so I’m starting to teach her at least to the point she could hire someone if need be. DAS is simple but you need backups even more in my experience and always running out of room, where as a NAS you can continually upgrade hard drives over time and even expansion units for more bays.

    • @SpaceRexWill
      @SpaceRexWill  Год назад +22

      My trick to making sure my wife can get our files when I am gone, was to build a RUclips channel containing all of the information she needs to manage the Synology!

    • @williamhicks2763
      @williamhicks2763 Год назад +3

      @@SpaceRexWill 😄👍

  • @Dutch1961
    @Dutch1961 7 месяцев назад +2

    Didn't need one. Now I have two.

  • @BlackNumber0ne
    @BlackNumber0ne 3 месяца назад +3

    Congrats man, you've just convinced me to move from a newly bought NAS to a DAS solution instead. Security, handling and overall speed does matter to me, you did compare these crucial DAS elements perfectly towards the benefits of a NAS. Thanks a bunch for your help 👌

  • @poguedg
    @poguedg 4 месяца назад

    Lets say you have 2 TB SSDs on your system. One of the advantage of a NAS is you can use Acronis Backup Software to do periodic backups and Acronis Rescue Media Builder to create a bootable Thumb drive so if you lose your SSD or your system gets corrupted or infected, you can restore back to a sane time without losing any of your data quickly(

  • @darkellysio
    @darkellysio Год назад

    In a way I didn’t need a NAS but it is really useful. Especially to backup to a remote place where you also have a computer.
    Just struggling to open the upnp port on my router to make it work 😅

    • @playlist5455
      @playlist5455 Год назад +1

      Never use UPNP. It is a known security issue and is getting removed from lots of devices these days. You can directly open ports (for ssh and such) directly on your router

  • @midiman25
    @midiman25 6 месяцев назад

    @SpaceRex Great video. This has got me thinking do I need a NAS or not. I just want something that I can sync data from my PC to. I was thinking about getting a Terramaster D5 and configuring it with RAID. I would like to sync my files and folders to the DAS device from my PC.

  • @TheKayakCrew
    @TheKayakCrew 10 месяцев назад +4

    While lots of people rave about NAS, I think if you only need to access the files at home via one computer I’m not sure I see the point. I’m looking to store my video projects and will be buying DAS drives which I’ll run in RAID 1.

    • @3d755
      @3d755 7 месяцев назад +2

      Not sure if you're aware but I wouldn't store important files on a RAID 1, if any of the drives in that array dies then the entire array becomes compromised and you could potentially lose all of your data. I'd be better to use RAID 5 (or even RAID 6 if you can spare a second drive).

    • @fjorddenierbear4832
      @fjorddenierbear4832 2 месяца назад

      @@3d755 You're talking about RAID 0 now, right? How does RAID 1 compromise data?

  • @hiddenspringshappenings3945
    @hiddenspringshappenings3945 Год назад +1

    Will, I was shocked to see the title of this video coming from you. Ha Ha. I watched it and loved it. Great points. Thanks and keep these vids coming. Russell D.

  • @draakisback
    @draakisback 4 месяца назад

    I went for a DAS with my current homelab setup. I mostly use my homelab to host a git instance, a search engine, a media server and as a router. The setup is basically 2 miniPCs, both running Proxmox. One is working as the router, DNS, Firewall etc, and the other is doing basically everything else. Getting a NAS at this juncture just made no sense, since my 2nd server machine was the one that needed more storage to support the serving media and hosting my Git files. Its also nice to have an extra 8 TB of storage for VMs, and for logging/metrics. Until I decide to add a real server blade into my cluster, there just isn't a point in using a NAS especially when my network is only 2.5g in speed atm.

  • @sherrilltechnology
    @sherrilltechnology 11 месяцев назад

    I love my NAS it is really good and I use it for video storage great video!

  • @Axeldub
    @Axeldub 5 месяцев назад

    well done good points

  • @javierechevarria1548
    @javierechevarria1548 Год назад

    Great video. I do like your homesty. THANk YOU !!

  • @michaelgold1064
    @michaelgold1064 4 месяца назад

    Thanks!

  • @gbinman
    @gbinman Год назад +3

    I like your videos, they have saved me a lot of reading. I had a networking business almost 20 years ago. It would have been awesome to have these devices then.
    Question: If I wanted to upgrade from my current DS220+, could I move my current drives to say a 4 bay unit or would it be starting from scratch. How about apps and configurations?

    • @SpaceRexWill
      @SpaceRexWill  Год назад +3

      You could take the 2 drives and just put them right in the new NAS!

  • @SuJunVN
    @SuJunVN Год назад

    Can I ask you a question? Can I use Link Aggregation Bond 1 and setup Pi-Hole on Docker? I am really stuck on this one? Appreciate any help, thanks.

  • @moonshot1149
    @moonshot1149 9 месяцев назад +3

    Maybe I'm missing something, but the MAIN reason people want a NAS instead of a DAS (plug in direct storage) is because of the built in RAID capability, where they can store their entire history of photos and home videos and not worry about data loss in a RAID configuration. Sure, some people will just use a NAS as a JBOD set up for a bunch of ripped movies. But that's kind of a waste, since any cheap PC with a bunch of cheap disks will do the same thing. The main problem with current "cube" NAS units are that they are ridiculously overpriced. Even after they are 5+ years old tech. So not an economical solution for most, after you pack it with 4 SSD, 4 M.2 caching sticks, and upgrade its base memory. By then, you're up close to 2K, which is just crazy.

    • @SpaceRexWill
      @SpaceRexWill  9 месяцев назад +1

      You can also buy a DAS RAID

  • @thesmuuuuggh
    @thesmuuuuggh Год назад +3

    3:45 Unless you watch a spacerex video or two 🙂

    • @mmdday
      @mmdday Год назад

      the fact that you have to watch videos means it's not that easy. You can't just ignore the time spent on "learning."

  • @lulabyte
    @lulabyte 2 месяца назад +5

    your voice is so soothing and your info is so helpful! Thank you!

  • @gfriedman99
    @gfriedman99 Год назад +2

    Yes but what if you have catastrophic loss. Seems like the bare metal recovery will be much quicker with a local backup over backblaze no?

    • @senritsujumpsuit6021
      @senritsujumpsuit6021 5 месяцев назад

      answer all the super important files can be left on other external drives like family photos are far more impotent then the 79045 cartoons an anime you have screenshots of XD

  • @andrewkim9628
    @andrewkim9628 Год назад +1

    I played my movies on NAS for a while, but hard drive based NAS and network latency gave me uncomfortable experience including freezing when I click hundred times of 10 seconds forward/rewind on a movie.
    Now I use SSD DAS for movies.

    • @greatwavefan397
      @greatwavefan397 10 месяцев назад +1

      Sounds more like you could use a Plex server

  • @santodifresco4817
    @santodifresco4817 Год назад +1

    So, as far as I can understand, I should backup the NAS, but I bought it for backups use and to replace Google photo, I'm start to think that I did the wrong choice....

  • @roquea.deleon6175
    @roquea.deleon6175 2 месяца назад

    Is it possible to make certain folders or a drive on your computer network accessible. The use case I can see for it would be working from a main PC and saving the files locally, but when away from home and working from a laptop being able to access that specific folder/hard drive. NAS seems a bit overkill for a single person and occasional use for it.

  • @kenrock2
    @kenrock2 2 месяца назад

    My Nas setup is simple and doesn't need to be turn on 24/7. I bought a budget Delll mini PC, hook up with my existing USB hard drive. Setup a samba server, plex server, and many more to play around. I would only use it when I needed. Saving my electric bill.
    Cost wise is much much cheaper than buying standalone NAS. The only thing i invested alot is the time of setup and configuring the server, troubleshoot errors and so on.

  • @kosvkos
    @kosvkos Месяц назад +1

    Why the hell I've spend another 10 minutes listening why I don't need a NAS if I already have one? :(

  • @nadtz
    @nadtz Год назад

    I don't need a nas but it makes working on multiple devices and running VM's and containers a lot easier.

  • @NicolasSilvaVasault
    @NicolasSilvaVasault 2 месяца назад

    is a fun world, BUT, the flexibility, usability, ease of use, reliability of having a cloud, and most importantly, how cheap in both short and long term is, will always be better to pay for a cloud service

  • @dexter2433
    @dexter2433 2 месяца назад

    we just set up our first NAS with a AMD Athlon 3000g cpu and a old A320 MB and ram from my daughters old gaming pc from 6 years ago and with 2 8tb hd we finely got Truenas set up and working but we are still learning but mostly we want it for storing large video files from OBS and video editing this is our learning one and it is fast over the network getting 120MB transfer speeds so it is working great ..I sat it in my closest out of the way and so it is silent

  • @thomasrodriguez581
    @thomasrodriguez581 4 месяца назад

    How long will a NAS last? I would want to use it for my video editing projects

  • @RichardsWorld
    @RichardsWorld Месяц назад

    With some ISP setting data limits, such as Xfinity giving a high speed limit of 1.2TB, how do you go about trying to use the internet to backup several TB each month? I guess you need a truly unlimited plan.

  • @MrCougar214
    @MrCougar214 10 месяцев назад

    I'm new to all this home media server stuff so I have no idea what I need to buy. I can tell you what I want to do and that's have a setup that allows me to access my media from any TV or device in my home without the need for internet access. I want the ability to access my collection if the internet goes down so I'm not sure if a NAS setup is right for me. I know they make home devices that do this that look a lot like dvd players but I have no idea what they are called or where to buy them.

  • @fgdfhdhjd7776
    @fgdfhdhjd7776 Год назад +1

    I use free accounts of onedrive, dropbox and box for essential files. Tons of notes, ebooks, papers stored in hard drives with bakup in other hard drives. I saw many youtubers saying you need a Nas but sometimes I feel it is still not unneccessary.

    • @44BluesFan
      @44BluesFan 9 месяцев назад

      I'm sorta in the same boat. My OneDrive is only 50% capacity, and I'm wondering if even a DAS makes sense until that gets filled up more...

    • @fgdfhdhjd7776
      @fgdfhdhjd7776 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@44BluesFan if you only used 50%, then do not buy it for now. I bought a two bay NAS few months ago. With two 4t hard drives, the useable size is in fact only 2.6 tb, going beyond roughly 2.6 or 2.7tb there would be warnings. It is quite pain of ass since it is not a lot room and I paid more than 500 euros for it.

    • @44BluesFan
      @44BluesFan 9 месяцев назад

      @@fgdfhdhjd7776 Good info, thanks.

    • @fgdfhdhjd7776
      @fgdfhdhjd7776 9 месяцев назад

      @@44BluesFan another problem is that, unlike onedrive or dropbox, with synology drive of ios or android, you cannot download at once a whole folder under which there are mutiple files. You are forced to download each file one by one manually under the folder.

  • @MisterUrbanWorld
    @MisterUrbanWorld Месяц назад

    Can a DAS connect to modem to stream movies to various rooms?

  • @notreallyme425
    @notreallyme425 Год назад

    What if I have the 2 LAN ports setup as a “Bond” will this still work?

  • @MegaManNeo
    @MegaManNeo 11 месяцев назад +3

    I have a bunch of machines at home and I like to sync my data locally without Google, Microsoft, Meta, Dropbox, Mega or the likes being involved.
    So building a NAS myself using off the shelf parts was the right choice for me.
    However, given how powerful singleboard computers have become - even older Raspberry Pis considering what I personally do most of the time - I can tell, people can save a lot by going other routes.

    • @riffdex
      @riffdex 5 месяцев назад

      I got an old PC and put a bunch of HDDs in the available SATA ports, leaving one SATA port for SSD for OS installation. All my data is stored on those internal HDDs, with redundancy, and accessible via shares over my network. Is this setup considered a NAS?

  • @phanigurram
    @phanigurram Год назад

    you are hero on subject

  • @alwayscuriousalwayslearnin
    @alwayscuriousalwayslearnin 6 месяцев назад

    I have my media PC and its used for the net and i have a gaming PC I just have extra drives on my media PC and backup files to it works good I am not sure how much power it uses because its on all the time

  • @jonthemachine1970
    @jonthemachine1970 3 месяца назад

    A changed my Nas from a dell server to a mini PC and 4 harddrive DAS. It is quit, fast, and uses much less power. Plus using software RAID will allow me to use drives in another PC. Should I have to.

  • @JasonStewartsStreak
    @JasonStewartsStreak 2 месяца назад

    I'm confussed, I want to backup files(pictures and documents) from the 3 computers I have at home. They will be saved and I will access them on the computer I am using not off the nas, I just want a program to run either everytime one of those folders are modified or a set time every day and save that information to the nas. The way it is being described here it seems more like external storage? The reason I want to use a nas in case a hdd fails on one of those pc's I don't lose all that data. If I use it to store the data to access from all the pc's if the drive fails on the nas I lose all the data? Is a nas not what I thought it was?

  • @darrinlong8038
    @darrinlong8038 10 месяцев назад

    i have tp-link router with a USB port cant i use that for a network drive storage i been experentmenting with this

  • @romangsh
    @romangsh Год назад

    indeed a great video

  • @PunkrockNoir-ss2pq
    @PunkrockNoir-ss2pq 6 месяцев назад

    I didn't need one, but I enjoyed the learning experience

  • @Smedleydog1
    @Smedleydog1 3 месяца назад

    Actually you need both. I have a NAS for storage that can easily be accessed from multiple computers in my house on my private network. You can share drives and files between computers on a network if Windows will cooperate, but it's messy in my opinion. I have a DAS to back up my NAS (sounds funny doesn't it). I don't put my data on "the cloud" (someone else's server). That's like giving your files and information away to a stranger.

  • @ArminSteiner
    @ArminSteiner Год назад

    Bachblazr takes forever uploading even less than 1TB, we are talking about weeks not days. On a DAS you can not store your smartphone photos directly from the phone and ditch ios or Google photos.

  • @loucipher7782
    @loucipher7782 Год назад +2

    my main PC is already my NAS lol
    all i need is a DAS to do backup or expand storage
    i have like 3 DAS sitting there ready to plug in on demand
    data are mostly secured when its offline +off power most of the time compared to NAS
    doesnt matter if you have raidz3, shit happens and the whole system goes bye bye then you realize you just wasted 3 HDDs for parity all these while for nothing lol

  • @phanigurram
    @phanigurram Год назад +1

    i have 5 HDDs rais in my pc using as " F drive" .
    can i back blaze all this 30 tb data to back blaze? .
    Does Back blaze allow raid Drive?

  • @fjorddenierbear4832
    @fjorddenierbear4832 2 месяца назад

    Reason 6: Security (reduced attack surface). Your NAS in on your local network. Why not just expose it from your main computer selectively? You can still leave your desktop on at night and stream movies in bed from that computer. And if you stop using the share, just remove it.

  • @nightadmin283
    @nightadmin283 5 месяцев назад

    I actually don't need it. But I build one with TrueNAS as homelab project now. I want my file to be view from all my devices.

  • @LT72884
    @LT72884 Месяц назад

    i like syncthing the best. suoer simple and cheap as hell. i have a 1tb drive on main pc, then 512gb high speed sdcards in my laptops and phones to sync everything

  • @brianhansen6906
    @brianhansen6906 Год назад +2

    So I currently back up my nas with hyperbackup to a 4tb das. So it sounds like I could then just turn around and plug that das into my computer and back it up to back blaze for $7/mo

    • @SpaceRexWill
      @SpaceRexWill  Год назад +2

      That would likely work!

    • @gerald1964
      @gerald1964 6 месяцев назад

      One possibility would be to use back up software on your computer to back up your NAS directly without having to unplug and plug your back up drive. You just keep your backup drive plugged into your main computer. I use Chronosync for my iMAC.

  • @ThornBoyz2207
    @ThornBoyz2207 Год назад +3

    Great, I just watched a bunch of your videos convincing me I need a NAS and now that I dropped $1500 your telling me I don't need one :( j/k I don't care if I don't need one...I wanted one LoL

  • @mcash2189
    @mcash2189 Месяц назад +1

    I think the vast majority of people in this Digital World do need an nas we should stop relying on the cloud so much and self-host our own data now I do agree that most of the nas offerings on the market are overpriced that's why I personally I think building a home lab server is the better option

    • @MajorisMons
      @MajorisMons Месяц назад

      You literally stated my current situation. Once I got wind of multiple billion dollar companies stating, "Y'all [we] don't own your [our] data." My response to that was, "ight, bet."

  • @techmap4191
    @techmap4191 6 дней назад

    So I have a quick question… If I have a dedicated Mac mini that serves as my home server and I connect a DAS with raid support to it essentially isn’t this the same thing as an NAS?

    • @SpaceRexWill
      @SpaceRexWill  6 дней назад +1

      That is a NAS then

    • @techmap4191
      @techmap4191 5 дней назад

      @@SpaceRexWill that is awesome ! What I am going to do!!

  • @myrnaloy4275
    @myrnaloy4275 Год назад

    How could i access a das from a cell phone?

  • @HowDidIGet3700Subs
    @HowDidIGet3700Subs 3 месяца назад

    does he remind anyone of ace ventura (jim carrey)?

  • @training7574
    @training7574 Год назад

    As usual, very informative! Thanks!

  • @manuelcarrillo55
    @manuelcarrillo55 5 часов назад

    Back blaze is $9 as of June 2024

  • @greob
    @greob Год назад

    8:00 sure but you lose control over your data. I don't think data is end to end encrypted with Backblaze...

    • @SpaceRexWill
      @SpaceRexWill  Год назад +1

      Backblaze let’s you set your own encryption key for your back

  • @painfull73
    @painfull73 10 месяцев назад +1

    If you want to store 'NAS' files on a local drive - assign a drive letter :| Rocket science, sure - but really basic rocket science :D

  • @melaniezette886
    @melaniezette886 6 месяцев назад

    I have 3 pc in house, each one is a backup of others,plus one backup server.

    • @melaniezette886
      @melaniezette886 6 месяцев назад

      I'm always able to work immediately on another pc if necessary.

  • @gadgetsntips
    @gadgetsntips 4 месяца назад

    So… can I backup my entire 90TB NAS to backblaze for the same price?

  • @dragonmaster1500
    @dragonmaster1500 2 месяца назад

    9:24 But what if, hear me out, you have a NAS that backs up your NAS?

  • @ultimaratiopharm
    @ultimaratiopharm 11 месяцев назад

    iSCSI helps

  • @suicidaljell
    @suicidaljell Год назад +1

    synolgy could be easier to use they seemingly choose not to be

    • @SpaceRexWill
      @SpaceRexWill  Год назад +7

      I think its hard to make a server that not only has a lot of powerful features, but is also really easy for anyone to use.

    • @gfriedman99
      @gfriedman99 Год назад

      Coming from an IT background I was stunned by how easy the Synology was to set up and use (with some help from SpaceRex of course).