Everything I know about my Synology NAS and how to maintain and operate it I've learned from you. Sometimes I forget how to do something and I come back to your videos. Thank you so much for sharing your wealth of knowledge. When something goes wrong, you always get me back on track!
Will, I'm surprised your head will even fit on my screen. I've never seen or heard someone who seems to know everything in such complete detail about Synology NAS. Everytime I want to know something about my Synology NAS, I just go to RUclips and enter what I'm looking for and usually you're at the top of the results list. Finally got everything onto my NAS but still doing a bit of clean up but wanted to get a backup made before I blew it up. Enter the question of backing up a Synology NAS to an external USB device and within a few minutes YOU had lead me through the steps and now my NAS is happily creating my first backup to my external 8TB USB drive. Easy peasy. Thanks so much.
You're a blessing for NAS newbies. I would still be opening the box and going "Now what" if I hadn't spent many hours before buying watching and learning from you. Thanks for it all.
Such good basic advice Will. And especially if it will run on auto-pilot because human nature is to not get around to such important tasks as often as we should. It only takes a single catastrophe for people to ask themselves " how much would I pay to get all of my data back today ? " That amount should be your guide for how much to spend for a backup system. I repurposed an old NAS to do this and put it in my detached garage. If you can't hard wire it, re-purpose an old WiFi router in the out-building to connect them.
A solution I use is I got a dual slot bare drive enclosure & two 20TB drives & plugged that into the Synology. I have two backup jobs to back up the Synology to the drives. First I synced both externals to the Synology, then unjack one and keep it off site & run daily backups to the online one. I swap the drives weekly so the opposite drive is kept off site and the prev off site drive is kept in the enclosure backing up daily....and just do that approx weekly (I'm not too particular about timing).
I see tons of video's about how to do a backup to a USB drive, but it's very hard to find something about transferring files FROM a USB drive to your NAS, using a USB port on the NAS itself. Sure, you can copy data by plugging in a USB device on your computer and copying those files through the network, but I am sure that plugging that USB device directly into the NAS will archive a much higher transfer speed. And you don't need to have a computer running, but only the NAS itself.
One thing I thought would be important to note, is that with Hyper Backup Explorer, you can only browse the content of the data with the password. The downloaded key seems to be only usable while using Hyper Backup on the Nas (or maybe I am wrong ?) It took me a moment to realize that when I forgot the password but still had the key to unlock it !
Although Hyper Backup offers more options, I don't use it for my backups. The reason is that it is simply too slow. USB Copy is simple, robust and very fast. No special software required to read the data when attaching the external drive to a PC. I think I was seeing under 20Mb/sec using Hyper Backup compared to the near 200Mb/sec transfer rate of USB Copy. I recognise that the ability to encrypt backups is useful for some users, but USB Copy will work better for some, so it's not to be over looked.
I agree on the USB copy option very simple to go through .a question though considering you have large amount of data to backup does USB copy support backup compression . it wont make a difference for simple word files etc but say a 4k HD blu ray??
@@sleepingwonder USB Copy doesn't offer any compression options. Instead, it backs up as fast as possible. Even if compression were available, it would do you no good at all with the sorts of files you mention. I just ran 7ZIP on a 43.2Gbb BD .ISO Rip. It took my 4c/8T 3300X CPU on my PC 43 minutes and ended up with zero compression achieved. So, a total waste of resources to try compressing a ripped BD or 4K UHD file. You're best bet is to go invest in a high capacity external drive and not concern yourself with compression, especially given the nature of the files you intend to backup. Hope this helps :)
Hyperbackup let’s me only backup the documents folder but not the homes folders, it says they are system reserved. Why is it not creating an image of whole thing including settings and all? I’m probably doing it wrong but there are no other options. I wish there was a simpler workflow .
@@maxmayer6009 Ensure you have full admin permission to backup the homes,folders. I run a nightly Hyperbackup task to backup my homes folder without issue. Consider trying USB Copy to see if that works for you. I use USB Copy for my main files and only use Hyperbackup for small, frequently changing folders.
@@maxmayer6009 It sounds like you got the target and source reversed. On the first screen you select the backup destination, then on the second screen you select the source, which can be all your folders.
Great tutorial. I followed your process, my files are being backed up as I type this, it's at 3% so far, backing it up to a 16TB inexpensive Western Digital Elements Drive. Sure it's going to take a while but not as long if I had to reconstruct all this. Thank for all your help.
I would start with "USB Copy" tool instead "Hyperbackup", it's much simplier, data store as is, not saved into Hyperbackup container, easly and faster to get backup data on other devices.
In that case I would look at the single version with HB. Mostly because if you want multiple folders, you can just add them without creating a new task
I have a NAS that I use as file storage for the many photos and videos I have. I have two backups being made of the NAS, one that remains in the house, and the other which gets rotated out and is stored at a family member's house. I use a Mac and I just tired your suggestion of using ExFat on my backup drive (first testing with the one that remains at the house) and about 36 hours into the backup it failed due to having characters that are invalid in ExFat but are valid in EXT4 and in MacOS. I reverted back to the EXT4 format on the drive and am backing up again!
Dave, what indication did you have that the backup failure was due to invalid characters? Mine is just saying 'Failed'... 'I/O error'. Is that the message you got? Thanks!
@@DCrane1000 Thanks for the quick response. I only hope that my reformatting to EXT4 and running a new backup, followed by the next backup tomorrow morning at 3:00 AM will prove to be the solution. The drive seemed healthy, so I don't know how to interpret my NAS (DS1522+) reporting "I/O error". Pretty general message.
Having just watched this great video I decided to check my USB drive plugged into the NAS and see the file format is ext4. Unless I'm mistaken, the Mac is unable to read these files. I will get a new drive and do exactly what you suggest here Will. Looks like I unknowingly have been backing up the NAS in a format that does not allow me to access the drive from a PC. This is a light bulb moment for me. Thank you Will.
Unfortunately the advice to use exFAT is somewhat misguided. Search up "why is exFAT bad" and you'll find endless reasons why it's not a good format. EXT4 is far superior, or if you'd still like the compatibility with Mac then definitely use HFS+ (macOS Journaled). Just plug the drive into your Mac, reformat for HFS+, and restart the backups. exFAT is perhaps the worst drive format to use for backups, it's only really good as a shuttle drive if you're transferring between Mac and Windows. HFS+ will keep your data much safer, the only downside being you can't natively read it on Windows, which isn't that big a deal anyway (or just install a tool to read HFS+ drives). You're much more likely to lose data with exFAT than to be forced to read the drive on Windows.
Many Thanks for the great video! If my NAS has ransomware, will my back up on the external HDD be safe? If not, Is there a step that can protect it? Thanks again
Great vid. Question: Is it possible to "easily" have rotating USB drive backups. i.e. one hot online, the other off-line from cold storage. Once configured, can drives be simply unplugged, or is there a disconnect process. (Cold Storage backup will survive theft, hack, surges, flood, evil pets/staff etc, hence the question.)
This is great advice. I've had an external hyperbackup drive since getting my 920+ and actually just replace it a few months ago when the space was running low. Ran into a lot of problems migrating backup to the new drive and even Synology support wasn't able to help. I ended up just starting a new backup. Have you ever changed out a backup drive for a larger/new one? That might be a good video to do as well. Great video!
I am working n a DS1821+ with 6x 16TB drives. The total actual data is 40TB. ( this is a photo archive and has in excess of 600,000 images) This all needs to be backed up. The Backup is a pair of ProBoxes with JBOD HDD for a total of 26TB each. Is Hyper backup THE fastest method of softwware? This is truly a emergency backup not to be used until a NAS failure occurs. Love your advice.... keep it up....
Love the videos snd your intro SpaceRex, it’s unique! So why not use a DS120J for this use case? A DS & 8tb barracuda cost about the same as a Seagate 8tb desktop in Australia, we don't seem to get the sales you describe on the desktop drives. Using a DS120J does mean the drive is in ext4 linux format so harder to read from but the benefits are 1) performs better than a desktop backup with more ram and cpu 2) you can put in a different location on your wired network to achieve better protection 3) remote management 4) multiple backup tool options etc etc
I bought a secondhand DS120J exactly for this, it was only £60 so I thought why not. I have 3x8TB drives in my main NAS, and ordered a secondhand 12TB drive for the DS120J - I only have 8TB data right now, and I'm short on money, so 12TB offsite is enough for the time being. I haven't set it up yet but I've been testing it and so far the DS120J runs great aside from being fairly slow to transfer things, especially with USB 2.0 ports. I went with the DS120J as a stop gap until I upgrade my NAS, otherwise I'd get something better like a DS124 or a DS118+ which both have more RAM and USB 3.0 (I mean for plain file storage, the DS120J is just fine). The DS120J being EXT4 is far better than exFAT. In fact, don't use exFAT for this, a quick search for "why is exFAT bad" will bring up countless results explaining why not to use it. It's perhaps the worst format to use in a backup drive. With EXT4, you can get a 3.5" external USB enclosure and plug the drive directly into a NAS and read from it. I tested it, and it's read only, but it means you can read directly from it if you need to recover data (Something you can't do in a RAID/SHR array). So, this'll be my offsite backup, and if things go wrong then I'll just retrieve the drive and plug it directly into another NAS. I also have my onsite Hyper Backup like this tutorial.
I'd love to see how you would go about setting up your NAS and then configuring it to backup files that get touched/edited/updated on your computer. As a photographer, i'd love for any files to re-sync that I go back and edit without having to drag a folder across every time I touch a file.
I've had a lot of trouble with backing up by USB-harddrives. It is essential to use the right hardware for that. SMR harddrives shouldn't be used for backup. These harddrives are incredibly slow for backups. Now I am backing up by Remote NAS at another location - twice a week automatically. This works well and is better than having all the backups on one location.
I'm using my Two way Nas with SHR from 3 years and now my stotage space all most full. I also doing Hyper back like u mentioned to my external drive. Now i'm thinking change my NAS to Raid 0 to use both HDD space and keep hyperbackup on my external drive. Is is good idea? I don't want to waste money on new HDD with more space.
I bought the 20TB WD USB drive and back up several file folders. The only folders I don’t back up are computer backups and a folder where I install packages - stuff that doesn’t back up well or is easy to replace. I run a similar nightly back to Backblaze, just with fewer folders and retention versions. I don’t think I reformatted the drive, however; NTFS was fine for me.
Thank you for the video, I'm able to back up my Synology 415+ Nas for once. My Hyper backup app looks slightly different than yours, mine is version 3.0.2-2531 and I don't know what version yours is, but I think I've managed it. Cheers.
A question Will: 1) You always say to do an extended smart test + a data scrub to keep your data safe. What if your backup is a cold stored HDD? You don't do the tests and hope everything is ok when you need the backup? Isn't this a risk?
I too just have a portable hdd which I use to back up monthly using USB Copy and store it offsite. It's quick and simple. Only downside is that deleted files in the nas remain in the backup from previous backups when they were there- no biggie.
Hey mate ... thanks for the video. I'm new to the NAS scene (despite decades in IT) ... why don't you use the internal USB Copy? And how to install Apps on my Synology NAS? I'm currently copying my previous backup volume to my DS224+ and will want to punch that out onto a USB disk when I'm done.
I've been using a 1TB WD MyCloud NAS (compared to these big boys It's a NASINO) for a few years now and have been considering upgrading to a QNAP or Synology NAS and using the WD as the back up at least as long as it can. I'm only wondering how badly I can screw this up.
Great video as always. However, I followed everything you did, but when I click on backup now, I get a warning that says : "No permission to access the shared folder Seagate Backup Drive on the destination. Please contact the destination administrator to grant access permissions to the task owner admin" I don't understand what the problem is. please help.
I got an Iron Wolf 24tb HDD, What would you recommend to use for an external case to handle this size of drive, With cooling ability. thanks. Great vid I'm going to use Hyperbackup to this drive..
First thanks for the cool video. I got a question, it's is about the backup task, when the backup task is completed first, when comes the next time, it only backup new files or changes? Or backup the whole same selected folders?
I think it does only backup the changes if you have selected multiple version. If you select "Enable file change detail log" you will have a file that will show you what was added/remove compared to the previous version so that tells me it does only add/remove the changes but keep everything that is in the same state as it was in the previous version.
I Have 6 USB Hard Drives that I rotate every day (Mon - Fri) I have 2ea. Thursday Backups. Each Friday I take one home, and bring the old one back to the office. I have it setup for MultiVersion. Do I just Run the Setup each day when I change out backups and point it at the new backup Drive??? Is this in another video?
The most important and common thing RAID doesn't protect against: Simple deletion because you deleted overwrite the file/folder. It is instantly removed from the whole RAID. RAID has the purpose to keep the system running, not to protect your data.
I have been using this for years on my synology home NAS. I pretty much use it to restore all my files if my NAS dies. However, I set it up using ext4. If my NAS crashes and I then buy a new synology NAS. Can i just plug my USB drive (with all my backups) into the new NAS, install hyperbackup and restore all my files back to the new NAS?
Great video again. I use hyperbackup almost a year now. Last week the old rule "one backup is no backup" came up into my mind and I decided to connect a second USB backup drive to the DS420j NAS which runs the latest 7.2.1 version. After losing my concentration for one moment (due to post covid) I formatted the wrong disk. Not a big problem I thought, just run the total NAS backup task to recreate a new backup. There I found a problem that I couldn't solve. It was not possible to run the backup task again because it was offline. There was no way bringing it online. Even rebooted the NAS, usb disc was connected and online. The backup task kept saying it was offline. Editing task settings didn't solve my problem, but after recreating the backuptask al works again. Did I miss something or is this a bug in Hyperbackup?
Great channel. I use a Synology NAS and a cloud backup (iDrive works for me) but I don't think I will use a USB backup to the Synology since it seems to defeat the purpose of having a NAS, though I guess an extra layer of protection is not bad. Hey SpaceRex do a video (if you haven't already) on "bit rot" and how having a two-bay NAS (like I have) is not enough protection for "self-healing" bit rot fixes (you know what that is, more than I, as I was shocked to find at another channel the standard RAID that comes with a two-bay NAS, I forget the number that RAID is, will not protect 100% against bit rot, as it is not "self-healing", though it will flag what files are potentially corrupted so I guess you can pick between the two versions the good version).
So with BTRFS and scrubbing you are protected from bit rot with all RAIDS. This is because BTRFS will add an additional checksum that you can use to fix bit rot, even with a single drive
Would you be able to set up a new Mac from a Time Machine backup, when the TM backup files have been restored to a new Synology NAS from an external HD as part of an entire system restore? I'm thinking in the very unfortunate event of losing both Mac and NAS at the same time and only the external HD surviving; so having to buy and restore a new Mac and NAS.
If I have two external drives that I want to rotate off site, can I still use Multiple Versions? Even though I'll be switching the drives connected to Synology on some schedule? Thanks for all your videos. They are informative, thorough and easily understood. As a former Drobo user, they gave me a quick head start on Synology.
Great video. I remember you did one a few years ago right after I bought my 920. If I recall you didn't change the format to exfat. I did have the opportunity to use the windows app to explore and copy a file off the hyper backup drive. so what's the exfat advantage?
Hey... Can I connect my old Seagate FreeAgent GoFlex Desk 2 Terabyte (2TB) USB 2.0 3.5" External Hard Drive to Synology DiskStation DS223 2-Bay NAS ... thanks
Do you recommend keeping HDD plugged in and hibernate via Hardware & Power settings and have hyper backup going on automatically? Or is it better manually unplug HDD after each backup so that it can be considered as a true "cold" storage that is offsite?
Thank you, very informative. We use Synology for Timemachine backup whole family Macs. If I use the USB drive to backup Synology can I restore Timemachine backups?
You would need to use hyerbackup multi version and then restore it to a NAS. If you are going to do this, make a separate task with only like 2 versions on it, Time Machine is a bit of a Pain
1/ Decide if you need to back up ALL data 2/ If the backup of all data would exceed the external drive capacity, you’ll need to have multiple drives and do so by backing up some folders to one and others to the other drive.
If you're data exceeds the external, and you don't want to manage multiple externals, this is not the right solution for you at that point. Move on to NAS-to-NAS backups, and/or use the cloud.
Second Question.... Does HyperBackup skip over files that have been copied in the past or does it save a new copy of everything? Assume no saved backups, only the current one....
Funny thing, you suggest backing up a NAS to a WD product and at the same time you do not recommend using WD HDs in a NAS (ps me either) Another thing, I found Hyperbackup and other Synpology backup tools as quite unreliable and difficult to use. Instead I use Allway Sync which works great and does the job much faster. Still, I find your videos very useful and really appreciate what you do on YT.
Extreme "newbie" to NAS question. I purchased a 16tb drive to use for this, my current NAS is only 12tb... can I use the additional storage space on the external drive for other saves/shares or should it be used exclusively for the NAS backup? Thank You!
You can use the additional storage space, for example I have included the compressed hyperbackupexplorer install folder inside of the hard drive, in case i need to restore the data on a computer while not having access to internet. However, I didn't add anything else on it and I have considered it to be exclusively for nas backup. I see this a something valuable that needs to be safe and secure so I don't want to mess around with it and possibly do something wrong that would damage it or corrupt the backed up data. I would use a different drive if I want to store files that I would use frequently and plug in many others computers or devices, but technically you can, it is up to you.
Most likely yes. If you want to be extra safe, unplug the hard drive between backups, this is known as an "air gap" and prevents the drive from getting damaged from things like power surges, problems with the NAS, or some sort of ransomware from the Internet. And if you want to be even more safe, don't format the drive in exFAT, use either EXT4 (Linux), HFS+ (Mac), or NTFS (Windows) depending on your operating system. If you're already using exFAT, I highly recommend you reformat the drive and start the backups again. Just look up "why is exFAT bad" and you'll see why, it's perhaps the worst drive format for back ups!
Love your videos, I'm working on formatting my USB drive to exfat, but I am getting a "Mount Failed" error every time I do. Tried formatting it on my mac and plugging it in but I still get a mount failed error and I can not see the drive in File Station. In searching the web I have seen others with the same mount issue but I have not seen a way to fix this, do you know of a solution?
Yeah I should really do this... PSU died on my unit and haven't even gotten around to replacing it. That said, I use my synology to mainly backup from my main PC and use cloud as well. So technically for some data, I already have 3 copies. Do I need the 4th layer?
Exfat has read/write for MacOS and all Linux distros (albeit some modification of the distro, such as Exfat Access on DSM). NTFS is read only on MacOS and some Linux distros. If you're a pure Windows user and all potential users of the drive are the same, NTFS will work fine. If anyone who touches it may be using MacOS or one of those limited Linux distros, then you'll want to use exfat.
Great. Is it possible to store hyperbackup explorer installation files on backup drive, but in a way that grants access to them without having hyperbackup installed yet on the computer? It is just protection to have tools to access backup even if there are not available on the internet in far furure? So I take backup drive, look to that from any operating system - Linux, windows, mac, see installation files on the drive, install hyper backup explorer using them and have access to my files using standard password knew by my relatives.
I don't have the "enable client side encryption" option, rocking a DS920+, why is that? Update: Nevermind, local copy doesn't let you do encryption sadly, only multiple version / .HBK file backups support encryption.
The Synology forums, Reddit etc are rife with people having issues with Hyperbackup to an external USB drive. I too have an issue where the backups constantly fail. I've watched your video and my setup is pretty much as you have described. Have you heard of this and are there any fixes? Thank you.
If you’re a Mac user and format your local drive using ExFAT, your backup will fail if a filename contains one of the following invalid characters not supported by the FAT file system \/:*?>
I have accumulated too many files to reasonably back up to 1 or 2 local drives. I need a video showing how to delete thousands of duplicate files. I use rsync to backup my Lightroom images and catalog to a folder on the NAS. I also offload files from the computer by moving them, using Lightroom file management, to a folder on the NAS every month. This leaves me with two copies of some files on the NAS. One in the rsync folder, and one in the Lightroom folder. To make matters worse, I will sometimes move a folder using Lightroom, and later delete files, using Lightroom file management. This leaves a copy in the rsync folder with no corresponding file in the Lightroom folder. I describe this only as an example. I would like to delete thousands of files and be able to specify which directory tree to prioritize for keeping. Does Synology provide such tools? While I have a 10 Gb connection to my NAS, I much prefer to keep images on my MacBook so I can work on recent ones while traveling and offload them to the NAS periodically. What is your workflow for organizing your creative assets?
I have a LaCie 5 big thunderbolt 2 that I wanted to use as a back up for my 1821+ Synology nas. Am I correct in saying that this won’t be able to be used with the synology nas because it’s thunderbolt?
USB HDD power down. Just a personal antidote, I've been running a person file server on regular desktop drive since the early 2000's (20gb size), I have found, that if you have the drives spin down (power save) they die a lot faster. It seems to kill the motor that spins up the drive a lot faster. I have set my drives to never turn off and I'll get 5+ years out of them. I typically replace the due to size before failure on average. I have some drives with 8-10 years on them.
Can we setup and schedule a 1 to 1 usb backup and hyperbackup at the same time with 2 hdds , like 1 to 1 every 1st sat of month ,and hyper backup every Mon, and Friday .
Hey Will, thanks for the great video! Quick question: I followed the process to the letter to set up a HyperBackup backup schedule, btu when I confirmed it, I didn't get a download like you did @16:27 I do know my encryption key and stored it in Bitwarden... but I'd still like to play it safe. Do you know a way to trigger the download again?
Having a problem with my HyperBackup. Using dual slot bare drive enclosure, single version backup 4TB disk. Backup gets to 62% complete, then stalls. There appears to still be significant activity on the drives in the 1522+ (all lights flashing and you can hear the activity) but no further progress. Have split the size of the backup in half (to ~2TB) with the same exact result, stalls a 62% complete. Any idea? Do I need to make still further reductions in size? That would seem to defeat the purpose of HyperBackup. Thanks.
What are your thoughts on using non-Synology RAM in a Synology NAS. I recently upgraded using Crucial RAM and when I had an issue Synology support wouldn't help because they said the RAM wasn't theirs!
I'm trying to backup an encrypted volume and it's telling me to unlock my volume first but I don't want to do that, is there no way to backup an encrypted volume?
What do you about hyperbackup and s3 Storage ? Tried to backup my dalily backup on it but it's so slow while removing previous version it may cause errors. Next day all this green, ten days later it fails. If you have others solution Please make a video ! Tried Snapshot réplication works great but need another nas
Do you recommend buying an extra NAS to backup the first (e.g. a DS223j) instead of an external USB-harddrive, or would you consider that to be overkill? I've read quite some reviews about external USB-harddrives dying way too soon (especially the Western Digital Elements drives), compared to NAS-harddrives.
For the money, the value of the external drive is so much better. But if you have a bunch of money (or need a really big backup) a NAS will always be better, just at a cost
I would go for the second NAS ( I'm biased because that's what I do ). And, you can do snapshots on the other NAS as well. One more benefit is, depending on how you do your backups, if your main NAS had a catastrophic failure, you might be able to switch to the backup NAS and hardly skip a beat.
@@DavidM2002 There are more advantages of going for a second NAS. In the video it mentioned that Hyperbackup can only write a backup task to a single harddrive, but what do you do then when your external harddrive is full? In a two bay NAS you can then insert a second harddrive and you are good to go again.
Let's say you plan to back up once a month and take the USB drive out of the office. Will the backup start automatically the next time you plug in the USB drive, or do you have to log in to Synology and start the backup manually?
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Everything I know about my Synology NAS and how to maintain and operate it I've learned from you. Sometimes I forget how to do something and I come back to your videos. Thank you so much for sharing your wealth of knowledge. When something goes wrong, you always get me back on track!
Will, I'm surprised your head will even fit on my screen. I've never seen or heard someone who seems to know everything in such complete detail about Synology NAS. Everytime I want to know something about my Synology NAS, I just go to RUclips and enter what I'm looking for and usually you're at the top of the results list. Finally got everything onto my NAS but still doing a bit of clean up but wanted to get a backup made before I blew it up. Enter the question of backing up a Synology NAS to an external USB device and within a few minutes YOU had lead me through the steps and now my NAS is happily creating my first backup to my external 8TB USB drive. Easy peasy. Thanks so much.
You're a blessing for NAS newbies. I would still be opening the box and going "Now what" if I hadn't spent many hours before buying watching and learning from you. Thanks for it all.
Wow thanks a ton!
Much cheaper than breaking something not knowing what I’m doing. Thanks.
My NAS setup truly wouldn't be the same without you! Once again thank you for the tutorial, this was an extra useful Backup masterclass 👏
Such good basic advice Will. And especially if it will run on auto-pilot because human nature is to not get around to such important tasks as often as we should. It only takes a single catastrophe for people to ask themselves " how much would I pay to get all of my data back today ? " That amount should be your guide for how much to spend for a backup system. I repurposed an old NAS to do this and put it in my detached garage. If you can't hard wire it, re-purpose an old WiFi router in the out-building to connect them.
A solution I use is I got a dual slot bare drive enclosure & two 20TB drives & plugged that into the Synology. I have two backup jobs to back up the Synology to the drives. First I synced both externals to the Synology, then unjack one and keep it off site & run daily backups to the online one. I swap the drives weekly so the opposite drive is kept off site and the prev off site drive is kept in the enclosure backing up daily....and just do that approx weekly (I'm not too particular about timing).
Hi there, sounds very interesting. Could you please share the details of your setup. Thanks
What bare drive enclosure do you have?
Intersting
I see tons of video's about how to do a backup to a USB drive, but it's very hard to find something about transferring files FROM a USB drive to your NAS, using a USB port on the NAS itself.
Sure, you can copy data by plugging in a USB device on your computer and copying those files through the network, but I am sure that plugging that USB device directly into the NAS will archive a much higher transfer speed. And you don't need to have a computer running, but only the NAS itself.
Exactly the video I was looking for. All of your information is super helpful
Thanks for this tutorial, I want to reduce my C2 costs and this is a great way do start, next step is a NAS at one family member…
holy crap - i've been watching you for years, just realized i'm not subscribed.... corrected!
Me too. :) Corrected!
One thing I thought would be important to note, is that with Hyper Backup Explorer, you can only browse the content of the data with the password.
The downloaded key seems to be only usable while using Hyper Backup on the Nas (or maybe I am wrong ?)
It took me a moment to realize that when I forgot the password but still had the key to unlock it !
Amazing video. Followed the instructions without difficulty.
Amazing - this is exactly what I just came here to find and here you are ! Cheers !
Although Hyper Backup offers more options, I don't use it for my backups. The reason is that it is simply too slow. USB Copy is simple, robust and very fast. No special software required to read the data when attaching the external drive to a PC.
I think I was seeing under 20Mb/sec using Hyper Backup compared to the near 200Mb/sec transfer rate of USB Copy.
I recognise that the ability to encrypt backups is useful for some users, but USB Copy will work better for some, so it's not to be over looked.
I agree on the USB copy option very simple to go through .a question though considering you have large amount of data to backup does USB copy support backup compression . it wont make a difference for simple word files etc but say a 4k HD blu ray??
@@sleepingwonder USB Copy doesn't offer any compression options. Instead, it backs up as fast as possible. Even if compression were available, it would do you no good at all with the sorts of files you mention. I just ran 7ZIP on a 43.2Gbb BD .ISO Rip. It took my 4c/8T 3300X CPU on my PC 43 minutes and ended up with zero compression achieved. So, a total waste of resources to try compressing a ripped BD or 4K UHD file.
You're best bet is to go invest in a high capacity external drive and not concern yourself with compression, especially given the nature of the files you intend to backup.
Hope this helps :)
Hyperbackup let’s me only backup the documents folder but not the homes folders, it says they are system reserved. Why is it not creating an image of whole thing including settings and all? I’m probably doing it wrong but there are no other options. I wish there was a simpler workflow .
@@maxmayer6009 Ensure you have full admin permission to backup the homes,folders. I run a nightly Hyperbackup task to backup my homes folder without issue. Consider trying USB Copy to see if that works for you. I use USB Copy for my main files and only use Hyperbackup for small, frequently changing folders.
@@maxmayer6009 It sounds like you got the target and source reversed. On the first screen you select the backup destination, then on the second screen you select the source, which can be all your folders.
Thank you for your videos, just setup a file backup based on this video
Thanks a ton!
@@SpaceRexWill thank you for your videos
Thank you for sharing excellent information!
One question is it possible to connect a USB HUB to connect more than one USB DRIVE
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Great tutorial. I followed your process, my files are being backed up as I type this, it's at 3% so far, backing it up to a 16TB inexpensive Western Digital Elements Drive. Sure it's going to take a while but not as long if I had to reconstruct all this.
Thank for all your help.
Many thanks. Clear, professionnal as always :)
I would start with "USB Copy" tool instead "Hyperbackup", it's much simplier, data store as is, not saved into Hyperbackup container, easly and faster to get backup data on other devices.
In that case I would look at the single version with HB. Mostly because if you want multiple folders, you can just add them without creating a new task
I have a NAS that I use as file storage for the many photos and videos I have. I have two backups being made of the NAS, one that remains in the house, and the other which gets rotated out and is stored at a family member's house. I use a Mac and I just tired your suggestion of using ExFat on my backup drive (first testing with the one that remains at the house) and about 36 hours into the backup it failed due to having characters that are invalid in ExFat but are valid in EXT4 and in MacOS. I reverted back to the EXT4 format on the drive and am backing up again!
Dave, what indication did you have that the backup failure was due to invalid characters? Mine is just saying 'Failed'... 'I/O error'. Is that the message you got? Thanks!
@@peterfromaz My error message clearly stated there were invalid characters.
@@DCrane1000 Thanks for the quick response. I only hope that my reformatting to EXT4 and running a new backup, followed by the next backup tomorrow morning at 3:00 AM will prove to be the solution. The drive seemed healthy, so I don't know how to interpret my NAS (DS1522+) reporting "I/O error". Pretty general message.
Great video! Didn't know about the HB Explorer. This is huge!
Having just watched this great video I decided to check my USB drive plugged into the NAS and see the file format is ext4. Unless I'm mistaken, the Mac is unable to read these files. I will get a new drive and do exactly what you suggest here Will. Looks like I unknowingly have been backing up the NAS in a format that does not allow me to access the drive from a PC. This is a light bulb moment for me. Thank you Will.
Unfortunately the advice to use exFAT is somewhat misguided. Search up "why is exFAT bad" and you'll find endless reasons why it's not a good format. EXT4 is far superior, or if you'd still like the compatibility with Mac then definitely use HFS+ (macOS Journaled). Just plug the drive into your Mac, reformat for HFS+, and restart the backups.
exFAT is perhaps the worst drive format to use for backups, it's only really good as a shuttle drive if you're transferring between Mac and Windows. HFS+ will keep your data much safer, the only downside being you can't natively read it on Windows, which isn't that big a deal anyway (or just install a tool to read HFS+ drives). You're much more likely to lose data with exFAT than to be forced to read the drive on Windows.
Many Thanks for the great video!
If my NAS has ransomware, will my back up on the external HDD be safe? If not, Is there a step that can protect it?
Thanks again
Love your new office
Great vid. Question: Is it possible to "easily" have rotating USB drive backups. i.e. one hot online, the other off-line from cold storage. Once configured, can drives be simply unplugged, or is there a disconnect process. (Cold Storage backup will survive theft, hack, surges, flood, evil pets/staff etc, hence the question.)
You might want to recommend a 2nd hyper backup targeting specific folders that require encryption.
You can just encrypt the backup in hyperbackup!
Love your stuff brother thank you for these videos. Super useful for my business.
This is great advice. I've had an external hyperbackup drive since getting my 920+ and actually just replace it a few months ago when the space was running low. Ran into a lot of problems migrating backup to the new drive and even Synology support wasn't able to help. I ended up just starting a new backup. Have you ever changed out a backup drive for a larger/new one? That might be a good video to do as well. Great video!
I am working n a DS1821+ with 6x 16TB drives. The total actual data is 40TB. ( this is a photo archive and has in excess of 600,000 images) This all needs to be backed up. The Backup is a pair of ProBoxes with JBOD HDD for a total of 26TB each. Is Hyper backup THE fastest method of softwware? This is truly a emergency backup not to be used until a NAS failure occurs.
Love your advice.... keep it up....
Love the videos snd your intro SpaceRex, it’s unique!
So why not use a DS120J for this use case? A DS & 8tb barracuda cost about the same as a Seagate 8tb desktop in Australia, we don't seem to get the sales you describe on the desktop drives. Using a DS120J does mean the drive is in ext4 linux format so harder to read from but the benefits are 1) performs better than a desktop backup with more ram and cpu 2) you can put in a different location on your wired network to achieve better protection 3) remote management 4) multiple backup tool options etc etc
I bought a secondhand DS120J exactly for this, it was only £60 so I thought why not. I have 3x8TB drives in my main NAS, and ordered a secondhand 12TB drive for the DS120J - I only have 8TB data right now, and I'm short on money, so 12TB offsite is enough for the time being. I haven't set it up yet but I've been testing it and so far the DS120J runs great aside from being fairly slow to transfer things, especially with USB 2.0 ports. I went with the DS120J as a stop gap until I upgrade my NAS, otherwise I'd get something better like a DS124 or a DS118+ which both have more RAM and USB 3.0 (I mean for plain file storage, the DS120J is just fine).
The DS120J being EXT4 is far better than exFAT. In fact, don't use exFAT for this, a quick search for "why is exFAT bad" will bring up countless results explaining why not to use it. It's perhaps the worst format to use in a backup drive. With EXT4, you can get a 3.5" external USB enclosure and plug the drive directly into a NAS and read from it. I tested it, and it's read only, but it means you can read directly from it if you need to recover data (Something you can't do in a RAID/SHR array). So, this'll be my offsite backup, and if things go wrong then I'll just retrieve the drive and plug it directly into another NAS. I also have my onsite Hyper Backup like this tutorial.
Thanks for the video. I am not seeing the same options as you are - are you using an older version of DSM - perhaps 6?
I'd love to see how you would go about setting up your NAS and then configuring it to backup files that get touched/edited/updated on your computer. As a photographer, i'd love for any files to re-sync that I go back and edit without having to drag a folder across every time I touch a file.
You can use a 2 way sync with Synology Drive
@@SpaceRexWill I will look into that. Thanks.
I've had a lot of trouble with backing up by USB-harddrives. It is essential to use the right hardware for that. SMR harddrives shouldn't be used for backup. These harddrives are incredibly slow for backups. Now I am backing up by Remote NAS at another location - twice a week automatically. This works well and is better than having all the backups on one location.
I'm using my Two way Nas with SHR from 3 years and now my stotage space all most full. I also doing Hyper back like u mentioned to my external drive. Now i'm thinking change my NAS to Raid 0 to use both HDD space and keep hyperbackup on my external drive. Is is good idea? I don't want to waste money on new HDD with more space.
I bought the 20TB WD USB drive and back up several file folders. The only folders I don’t back up are computer backups and a folder where I install packages - stuff that doesn’t back up well or is easy to replace. I run a similar nightly back to Backblaze, just with fewer folders and retention versions. I don’t think I reformatted the drive, however; NTFS was fine for me.
Thank you for the video, I'm able to back up my Synology 415+ Nas for once.
My Hyper backup app looks slightly different than yours, mine is version 3.0.2-2531 and I don't know what version yours is, but I think I've managed it.
Cheers.
A question Will:
1) You always say to do an extended smart test + a data scrub to keep your data safe.
What if your backup is a cold stored HDD? You don't do the tests and hope everything is ok when you need the backup? Isn't this a risk?
I too just have a portable hdd which I use to back up monthly using USB Copy and store it offsite. It's quick and simple. Only downside is that deleted files in the nas remain in the backup from previous backups when they were there- no biggie.
If you configure the task in Mirroring mode, the files will be deleted from the destination.
Hey mate ... thanks for the video. I'm new to the NAS scene (despite decades in IT) ... why don't you use the internal USB Copy? And how to install Apps on my Synology NAS?
I'm currently copying my previous backup volume to my DS224+ and will want to punch that out onto a USB disk when I'm done.
I've been using a 1TB WD MyCloud NAS (compared to these big boys It's a NASINO) for a few years now and have been considering upgrading to a QNAP or Synology NAS and using the WD as the back up at least as long as it can. I'm only wondering how badly I can screw this up.
Great video as always. However, I followed everything you did, but when I click on backup now, I get a warning that says : "No permission to access the shared folder Seagate Backup Drive on the destination. Please contact the destination administrator to grant access permissions to the task owner admin" I don't understand what the problem is. please help.
I backup my DS1821+ with another identical DS1821+. I think thats the best way in my opinion.
I got an Iron Wolf 24tb HDD, What would you recommend to use for an external case to handle this size of drive, With cooling ability. thanks. Great vid I'm going to use Hyperbackup to this drive..
First thanks for the cool video.
I got a question, it's is about the backup task, when the backup task is completed first, when comes the next time, it only backup new files or changes? Or backup the whole same selected folders?
I think it does only backup the changes if you have selected multiple version.
If you select "Enable file change detail log" you will have a file that will show you what was added/remove compared to the previous version so that tells me it does only add/remove the changes but keep everything that is in the same state as it was in the previous version.
I Have 6 USB Hard Drives that I rotate every day (Mon - Fri) I have 2ea. Thursday Backups. Each Friday I take one home, and bring the old one back to the office. I have it setup for MultiVersion.
Do I just Run the Setup each day when I change out backups and point it at the new backup Drive???
Is this in another video?
The most important and common thing RAID doesn't protect against: Simple deletion because you deleted overwrite the file/folder. It is instantly removed from the whole RAID. RAID has the purpose to keep the system running, not to protect your data.
I have been using this for years on my synology home NAS. I pretty much use it to restore all my files if my NAS dies. However, I set it up using ext4. If my NAS crashes and I then buy a new synology NAS. Can i just plug my USB drive (with all my backups) into the new NAS, install hyperbackup and restore all my files back to the new NAS?
Great video again. I use hyperbackup almost a year now. Last week the old rule "one backup is no backup" came up into my mind and I decided to connect a second USB backup drive to the DS420j NAS which runs the latest 7.2.1 version. After losing my concentration for one moment (due to post covid) I formatted the wrong disk. Not a big problem I thought, just run the total NAS backup task to recreate a new backup. There I found a problem that I couldn't solve. It was not possible to run the backup task again because it was offline. There was no way bringing it online. Even rebooted the NAS, usb disc was connected and online. The backup task kept saying it was offline. Editing task settings didn't solve my problem, but after recreating the backuptask al works again. Did I miss something or is this a bug in Hyperbackup?
Another brand nas new feature has designated auto mounting and unmounting of external usb hdd for scheduled auto bu.
Great channel. I use a Synology NAS and a cloud backup (iDrive works for me) but I don't think I will use a USB backup to the Synology since it seems to defeat the purpose of having a NAS, though I guess an extra layer of protection is not bad.
Hey SpaceRex do a video (if you haven't already) on "bit rot" and how having a two-bay NAS (like I have) is not enough protection for "self-healing" bit rot fixes (you know what that is, more than I, as I was shocked to find at another channel the standard RAID that comes with a two-bay NAS, I forget the number that RAID is, will not protect 100% against bit rot, as it is not "self-healing", though it will flag what files are potentially corrupted so I guess you can pick between the two versions the good version).
So with BTRFS and scrubbing you are protected from bit rot with all RAIDS.
This is because BTRFS will add an additional checksum that you can use to fix bit rot, even with a single drive
Would you be able to set up a new Mac from a Time Machine backup, when the TM backup files have been restored to a new Synology NAS from an external HD as part of an entire system restore? I'm thinking in the very unfortunate event of losing both Mac and NAS at the same time and only the external HD surviving; so having to buy and restore a new Mac and NAS.
If I have two external drives that I want to rotate off site, can I still use Multiple Versions? Even though I'll be switching the drives connected to Synology on some schedule? Thanks for all your videos. They are informative, thorough and easily understood. As a former Drobo user, they gave me a quick head start on Synology.
Yes! You will just need to enable / disable schedule on the other one
Does hyperbackup use hhd space on the existing nas?
Great video. I remember you did one a few years ago right after I bought my 920. If I recall you didn't change the format to exfat. I did have the opportunity to use the windows app to explore and copy a file off the hyper backup drive. so what's the exfat advantage?
I found exFAT to cause issues with permissions if you have the default admin account disabled, would advise against using and instead go EXT4.
You should have made a link to the external USB Seagate drive (16TB) (Amazon).
Hey... Can I connect my old Seagate FreeAgent GoFlex Desk 2 Terabyte (2TB) USB 2.0 3.5" External Hard Drive to Synology DiskStation DS223 2-Bay NAS ... thanks
Do you recommend keeping HDD plugged in and hibernate via Hardware & Power settings and have hyper backup going on automatically? Or is it better manually unplug HDD after each backup so that it can be considered as a true "cold" storage
that is offsite?
Thank you, very informative. We use Synology for Timemachine backup whole family Macs. If I use the USB drive to backup Synology can I restore Timemachine backups?
You would need to use hyerbackup multi version and then restore it to a NAS.
If you are going to do this, make a separate task with only like 2 versions on it, Time Machine is a bit of a Pain
How do you backup the data from this 5-bay NAS? I doubt that this roughly max. 20 TB external hard disc will be sufficient.
I’m curious on the answer here too. I have an 1821 which would require multiple external hdds for backup
1/ Decide if you need to back up ALL data 2/ If the backup of all data would exceed the external drive capacity, you’ll need to have multiple drives and do so by backing up some folders to one and others to the other drive.
If you're data exceeds the external, and you don't want to manage multiple externals, this is not the right solution for you at that point. Move on to NAS-to-NAS backups, and/or use the cloud.
Second Question.... Does HyperBackup skip over files that have been copied in the past or does it save a new copy of everything? Assume no saved backups, only the current one....
Funny thing, you suggest backing up a NAS to a WD product and at the same time you do not recommend using WD HDs in a NAS (ps me either) Another thing, I found Hyperbackup and other Synpology backup tools as quite unreliable and difficult to use. Instead I use Allway Sync which works great and does the job much faster. Still, I find your videos very useful and really appreciate what you do on YT.
Hi there, thank you for the info. What if there are multiple portable hdd in the external devices?
I am doing it. And yesterday my DS918 died a sudden death after 5 years.
if i want to backup all the data, i have to use same disk volume from synology to backup?
Does anything different need to be done in order to back up an encrypted volume?
Wasn’t a dreaded WD per chance? 🤨
How to do it the DS723+ with eSATA port connection? Thanks
Hyperbackup explorer has the option for a local disk or Synology’s cloud. Is there a way to access a 3rd party cloud backup, say Wasabi or AWS?
Extreme "newbie" to NAS question. I purchased a 16tb drive to use for this, my current NAS is only 12tb... can I use the additional storage space on the external drive for other saves/shares or should it be used exclusively for the NAS backup? Thank You!
You can use the additional storage space, for example I have included the compressed hyperbackupexplorer install folder inside of the hard drive, in case i need to restore the data on a computer while not having access to internet.
However, I didn't add anything else on it and I have considered it to be exclusively for nas backup. I see this a something valuable that needs to be safe and secure so I don't want to mess around with it and possibly do something wrong that would damage it or corrupt the backed up data.
I would use a different drive if I want to store files that I would use frequently and plug in many others computers or devices, but technically you can, it is up to you.
Will the external hard drive last longer if its kept unplugged when its not doing backups?
Most likely yes. If you want to be extra safe, unplug the hard drive between backups, this is known as an "air gap" and prevents the drive from getting damaged from things like power surges, problems with the NAS, or some sort of ransomware from the Internet.
And if you want to be even more safe, don't format the drive in exFAT, use either EXT4 (Linux), HFS+ (Mac), or NTFS (Windows) depending on your operating system. If you're already using exFAT, I highly recommend you reformat the drive and start the backups again. Just look up "why is exFAT bad" and you'll see why, it's perhaps the worst drive format for back ups!
Love your videos, I'm working on formatting my USB drive to exfat, but I am getting a "Mount Failed" error every time I do. Tried formatting it on my mac and plugging it in but I still get a mount failed error and I can not see the drive in File Station. In searching the web I have seen others with the same mount issue but I have not seen a way to fix this, do you know of a solution?
Thanks for this tutorial.
I use this with an old eSata ext hard drive.
Yeah I should really do this... PSU died on my unit and haven't even gotten around to replacing it. That said, I use my synology to mainly backup from my main PC and use cloud as well.
So technically for some data, I already have 3 copies. Do I need the 4th layer?
As long as you have 3 GOOD copies no worries!
why exFAT and not NTFS?
Exfat has read/write for MacOS and all Linux distros (albeit some modification of the distro, such as Exfat Access on DSM).
NTFS is read only on MacOS and some Linux distros.
If you're a pure Windows user and all potential users of the drive are the same, NTFS will work fine. If anyone who touches it may be using MacOS or one of those limited Linux distros, then you'll want to use exfat.
Great.
Is it possible to store hyperbackup explorer installation files on backup drive, but in a way that grants access to them without having hyperbackup installed yet on the computer? It is just protection to have tools to access backup even if there are not available on the internet in far furure?
So I take backup drive, look to that from any operating system - Linux, windows, mac, see installation files on the drive, install hyper backup explorer using them and have access to my files using standard password knew by my relatives.
I don't have the "enable client side encryption" option, rocking a DS920+, why is that?
Update: Nevermind, local copy doesn't let you do encryption sadly, only multiple version / .HBK file backups support encryption.
Is it possible to have the external hard drive connected to a PC and have the NAS backup to it that way using Hyper Backup?
No, the closest you can get it to use something like Synology Drive and sync them to your computer
The Synology forums, Reddit etc are rife with people having issues with Hyperbackup to an external USB drive. I too have an issue where the backups constantly fail. I've watched your video and my setup is pretty much as you have described. Have you heard of this and are there any fixes? Thank you.
If you’re a Mac user and format your local drive using ExFAT, your backup will fail if a filename contains one of the following invalid characters not supported by the FAT file system \/:*?>
Very nice! Thanks!
I wrote a script that mounts my external drive before backup and when the backup is completed it is unmounted by Hyper Bckup.
I have accumulated too many files to reasonably back up to 1 or 2 local drives. I need a video showing how to delete thousands of duplicate files. I use rsync to backup my Lightroom images and catalog to a folder on the NAS. I also offload files from the computer by moving them, using Lightroom file management, to a folder on the NAS every month. This leaves me with two copies of some files on the NAS. One in the rsync folder, and one in the Lightroom folder. To make matters worse, I will sometimes move a folder using Lightroom, and later delete files, using Lightroom file management. This leaves a copy in the rsync folder with no corresponding file in the Lightroom folder. I describe this only as an example. I would like to delete thousands of files and be able to specify which directory tree to prioritize for keeping. Does Synology provide such tools? While I have a 10 Gb connection to my NAS, I much prefer to keep images on my MacBook so I can work on recent ones while traveling and offload them to the NAS periodically. What is your workflow for organizing your creative assets?
I have a LaCie 5 big thunderbolt 2 that I wanted to use as a back up for my 1821+ Synology nas. Am I correct in saying that this won’t be able to be used with the synology nas because it’s thunderbolt?
USB HDD power down. Just a personal antidote, I've been running a person file server on regular desktop drive since the early 2000's (20gb size), I have found, that if you have the drives spin down (power save) they die a lot faster. It seems to kill the motor that spins up the drive a lot faster. I have set my drives to never turn off and I'll get 5+ years out of them. I typically replace the due to size before failure on average. I have some drives with 8-10 years on them.
What to do if backup can't complete because target space is not enough of too much retentions?
Can we setup and schedule a 1 to 1 usb backup and hyperbackup at the same time with 2 hdds , like 1 to 1 every 1st sat of month ,and hyper backup every Mon, and Friday .
Yes
Hey Will, thanks for the great video!
Quick question: I followed the process to the letter to set up a HyperBackup backup schedule, btu when I confirmed it, I didn't get a download like you did @16:27
I do know my encryption key and stored it in Bitwarden... but I'd still like to play it safe. Do you know a way to trigger the download again?
Do you leave the HDD plugged in an running all the time? I guess hibernate covers that.
Yeah! Keeps it easy to run every day
Would this work if the external usb hard drive is instead a RAID enclosure?
Excellent
Ya da man, Will!
Having a problem with my HyperBackup. Using dual slot bare drive enclosure, single version backup 4TB disk. Backup gets to 62% complete, then stalls. There appears to still be significant activity on the drives in the 1522+ (all lights flashing and you can hear the activity) but no further progress. Have split the size of the backup in half (to ~2TB) with the same exact result, stalls a 62% complete. Any idea? Do I need to make still further reductions in size? That would seem to defeat the purpose of HyperBackup. Thanks.
What are your thoughts on using non-Synology RAM in a Synology NAS. I recently upgraded using Crucial RAM and when I had an issue Synology support wouldn't help because they said the RAM wasn't theirs!
This is covered in another video 👍
Decided having terramaster, unit will arrive 240921. Syn is for enterprises, not small individuals.
I want to know if the 14TB drive is still alive ? How many volts did it get instead of the 12 it was expecting ? 🙂
No clue! Haven’t found the right power supply. I think it was a 5V
@@SpaceRexWill😂
Another option would be to setup a Synology high availability (SHA) cluster.
I actually dont see SHA as a backup, as a delete on one, is immediately synced to the other
I'm trying to backup an encrypted volume and it's telling me to unlock my volume first but I don't want to do that, is there no way to backup an encrypted volume?
There is not
What do you about hyperbackup and s3 Storage ?
Tried to backup my dalily backup on it but it's so slow while removing previous version it may cause errors. Next day all this green, ten days later it fails.
If you have others solution Please make a video !
Tried Snapshot réplication works great but need another nas
Do you recommend buying an extra NAS to backup the first (e.g. a DS223j) instead of an external USB-harddrive, or would you consider that to be overkill? I've read quite some reviews about external USB-harddrives dying way too soon (especially the Western Digital Elements drives), compared to NAS-harddrives.
For the money, the value of the external drive is so much better.
But if you have a bunch of money (or need a really big backup) a NAS will always be better, just at a cost
I would go for the second NAS ( I'm biased because that's what I do ). And, you can do snapshots on the other NAS as well. One more benefit is, depending on how you do your backups, if your main NAS had a catastrophic failure, you might be able to switch to the backup NAS and hardly skip a beat.
@@DavidM2002 There are more advantages of going for a second NAS. In the video it mentioned that Hyperbackup can only write a backup task to a single harddrive, but what do you do then when your external harddrive is full? In a two bay NAS you can then insert a second harddrive and you are good to go again.
@@jasperverkroost You won't get an argument from me on a second NAS. I have 3.
I bought a 22TB NAS drive, and put it inside a SATA to USB Sabrent adapter. NAS drives are rated for more cycles.
Let's say you plan to back up once a month and take the USB drive out of the office. Will the backup start automatically the next time you plug in the USB drive, or do you have to log in to Synology and start the backup manually?