All Synology Backup Methods Explained and Which One is Right For You?
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- Hyperbackup vs cloud sync vs active backup for business vs usb copy vs snapshot replication vs Synology Drive sync. Which one is right for you?
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TOC thanks to Joshka!
0:00 Intro
1:00 Storage Manager (redundancy is not a backup)
1:51 Overview of all the backup options
5:24 USB Copy (External hard drives)
7:38 CloudSync (Cloud drive providers e.g. Google Drive, OneDrive, WebDav etc.)
9:44 HyperBackup (Offsite to another NAS / Synology C2 / S3 storage, Best Disaster recovery options)
12:48 Snapshot replication (best low downtime option)
15:11 Active Backup for Business (DSM 7.1+, bare metal restore of entire NAS, good for business with many NASes)
16:55 Synology Drive ShareSync (Sync to another Synology NAS, good for 2 site access)
18:03 Summary 
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I hope Synology has you on their payroll, you're a total gem
New NAS owner (and subscriber) here. I have to tell you that your videos have been indispensable to me! You explain everything in a clear concise manner with easy to follow step-by-step instructions. I've learned so much in the last month and I can't imagine how much more difficult it would have been to get to where I'm at without you. THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
So happy to come across your channel! All things Synology you're the first thing that pops up on RUclips and my go to. I was so overwhelmed by the many backup methods, so it's perfect you just recently made this video! Thank you so much for the content, that helps a ton and gives me peace of mind, knowing there is a place I can always refer to. Thanks again and keep up the great videos!
Hey thanks man! Glad you like the videos!
Love your content and delivery/knowledge, have been following along with your videos ever since I got a NAS and it's been relatively smooth sailing. Thanks.
Thanks man!
Excellent comparison.I felt over whelmed by the number of backup options available on my Synology unit. But after watching your video, I feel USB back up is the simplest and best option for a home user like me. Thank you !
I was thinking the same thing and looking through the comments for just this. Glad someone else shares this sentiment. How did you do the initial copy of files to the NAS?
You're videos are really good, so informative. I'm planning updating my older 2-bay 216j to a 4-bay 920+ and setting up some backups to the old nas as you've advised. Hadn't even heard of snapshots for the synology so thanks for that 👍
I upgraded to that model. Very good machine. Had a 411 i believe. You ownt regret it
Thank you Sir. Your knowledge is extremely valuable and the best about Synology on RUclips. Because of you I bought a NAS for my home and one for my small business and to back up to each other. My son bought one too. Now we just need to set them up. My most nervous part is connecting my data with exposure to the internet and not getting my firewall set up properly for security. I've watched your security videos but they are still over my head so I will have to watch and rewatch them.
Thanks - this a super tutorial on the various backup options. While it helped clarify a number of points, it raises more questions in my mind.
I have 1 NAS - a 920+ with 4x 6TB HDDs currently arranged as 3 disks on SHR and a hot spare, although I'm considering switching to SHR2.
My backup strategy is I use Active Backup for Business to backup the PCs on my network so that I can perform bare-metal restoration if required. Most PCs backup every day on a backup task, but my laptop which I use only a few times a week, is on a 3 day backup task. Every PC has Synology Drive Client installed and sync:d with the NAS.
For disaster recovery, I then run Hyper Backup to backup the NAS to an external USB drive - this runs once a day. I'm not so concerned right now with an off-site backup, but more with disaster recovery.
My NAS is not yet currently connected directly to the Internet, but I'm looking at that as an option later on. It's only accessible currently on my internal network.
Is there any more I can do to mitigate losses due to file corruption, NAS/disk corruption, viruses, ransomware? Is there a place for snapshots in my backup strategy?
Great video again, mate. Clearly explains so much. Thank you ✌️
Good presentation. 19 years ago, I sold my networking business. I recall all the horrible backup systems that we deployed and all the trouble to setup systems with modern tech would be so simple, an so much more affordable too. I recently added a Synology NAS to my home network. I did this because I noticed that the Seagate Central NAS's install date of 2014 and it used a single disk that probably isn't anywhere as good as modern NAS drives. We use cloud accounts too so the Seagate failure would be a critical issue, it mostly has our DVD collection. Anyway, sorry for being verbose, your explanations saved me a lot of research on the plethora of options on the Synology platform.
Great content. Amazing detailed information about how to navigate a NAS. Thank you.
I used Active Backup for Business, and I really want to like it and use it... however after a long time of trying to figure out why I kept losing my network connection (every time it woke up to backup/check), I found deep in some forum posts that its a disputed bug between the Synology application and my specific wired Intel network drivers. After uninstall, it's never happened again. Good to see the other options here. Thanks!
Amazing Description Thank you!
great content brother, keep it up.
Thank you so much for this channel, it's helped me a lot. I'm a bit concerned that your income seems to be (through the consultancy stuff) somewhat dependent on people using Synology, but you seem to be a pretty honest guy from what I've seen, and still criticise Synology. So, thanks again! But I'd like to see much more heavy criticism of things like proprietary formats.
I am glad that I found your channel as I have learned a lot! I am an advanced amateur photographer and NOT a working pro and wondered the best solution for backing up 5tb of video and 5 tb of raw files? From watching this video it seems as HyperBackup using an offsite second NAS to backup to is the best way. I have a DS1821 and five 16tb drives which cost me around 2800.00 . Not sure right now I can afford to spend another 2800.00. Any better options? Thank you!!
Yeah, that's excellent information. I had two Synology boxes for 7 years. I used the "for business ..." one. Not knowing the new drive sync. This is an excellent review, and I didn't realize Hyper backup was that good.
I really like your channel, i find most every video useful, much thanks
upgrading from DSM6 to DSM7, i nearly lost everything, Hyperbackup completely failed to read back the files it had created, only copying the backup file to an NTFS partitioned disk and slowly restoring using Windows 10 Hyperbackup explorer got my data back
i've had various issues with Hyperbackup over the years, not fully restoring features and not working as expected going from one Dsm to another physical/virtual
So my advise is test test test, not just the backup but also the restore, which means you need two Dsm's really
But my top DR tip for home users, buy two HDDs, do a full backup on one and keep it round trusted friends house, then rotate every so often
Really interesting! I have not ever seen Hyperbackup fail to read back files. The only thing I have ever had an issue with was the limited settings and apps it returned back. For my own knowledge do you know what happened? Was it a DSM 7 trying to read a 6 backup or anything like that?
Good video Rex !
you put this together very well man cheers. the way i do mine is keep the main drive always big and organized and sync it to the NAS where it expands. Then have another local one that only turns on to add more files then switch it off when done. the always on one is the main drive that only sync to the NAS like i said, incase it dies no problem, turn back on the off drive and resync to the new drive. this works great for me, without getting crazy, there's a software called syncovery to deletes and copies all your main content to all your locations on the fly saves tons of time for offline and online organizing great piece of software.
Nice!
nice overall video covering it all
Hey, thanks for the great videos, man! They've been super helpful.
I have an odd question for you. I have a personal NAS and a work NAS (both Synology), and I was wondering if it's possible to have a usb drive hooked up to each one that backs up the OTHER NAS. Basically, I'd like to have them both back up automatically, but also have the backup drive off-site so we can't lose anything at either location. Do any of these backup options give you the option to select where you save the backups?
"you should hire me..." LOL ...I thought this line was hilarious... Kidding aside, this guys fantastic. He is a source of knowledge and the manner he explain it all is just incredible. Thank you for keeping us informed and updated. You were the main reason why I choose a Synology NAS many years ago and the reason why I am able to keep myself up to date with as little stress as possible. Thank You. One day I wish I can hire you.!!
Thanks man! Really glad you like the channel!
@@SpaceRexWill Absolutely. As soon as I have time, this is my weekend to go channel... At this moment I am trying to optimize my processes....PetWebcams/Photos /Backups/Recycle bin schedule... This weekend has been devoted to that and definitively you are the ToGo!! Actually I am watching at this very moment your "Simple Synology Settings EVERYONE should be using (Basics)" video. - Cheers to you!!!
Thank you, that was very clearly explained! I'm going to go with a primary NAS at home and the secondary at my brother. Share Sync between them, and have the primary using Hyper Backup!
I use Hyperbackup to back up my 1019 and my 1520 to a 1618. All 3 are BTRFS SHR1 with snapshotting.
Thanks for the video. What's the best option to to sync/backup between 2 synology models to include dns sever and other apps on DSM from one to another at a remote location?
Great video, thanks! I'm upgrading my old Synology NASs, so I'm revisiting backup techniques. I have tens of terabytes of mkv files that I use with Plex running on an HP server. Currently, I use Hyperbackup's rsync (single version) to keep a backup of all mkv files to a second NAS. Once I've added an mkv file, chances are it will never change, so most deltas are addition of new mkv files and not changes to already added mkv files. I'm wondering if rsync is the best way to backup the mkvs? Or should I consider snapshot replication or ShareSync? No need to worry too much about down time for Plex use, although having to do a restore with this amount of data would take days.
I have a DS920 with 3 bays used and one as a hot swap. I use it as a Plex server. What do you recommend for a back up strategy. Strictly home use...friends and families. I have about 16TB in videos and movies, great channel. I just subscribed.
Very helpful, thank you
Informative video. I'd say to folks to think about your use cases as you allude to. I have seen people lose their life's photos or data because of no backups. My use cases are mostly photos and ripped music. Your advice on offsite is excellent. I actually backup locally with HyperBackup, then also do Active Backup for bare metal restore. I then backup the stuff done with HyperBackup offsite (in case something happens to the house and kills the NAS(s)). Given my RTO (Recovery Time Objective) is not super critical, all of that serves my needs. In the use case, think about your RTO, i.e. how long it takes to recover, and RPO (Recovery Point Objective), i.e. how far back do you need the data. I only keep transient data on my PC, so all of the permanent data is on my NAS(s) and triple-covered. While Active Backup is capable of restoring individual files also, Hyper-backup makes a lot more sense in that respect as you don't have to go through the portal or really even hunt for files in a funky file structure. Build your use case(s) before you decide what methods you will use. Yes, I know I'm a bit retentive on this, but hope this helps in addition to SpaceRex. I can always rebuild a NAS but I can't produce my data out of thin air.
"I actually backup locally with HyperBackup"
@@magnesiafrost1863 yeah I'm trying to find this out myself, seems like nobody or synology really explaining how best to backup or clone an entire volume before expanding it. I didn't find an option for the entire volume and manually backing up all individual shared folder is a bit of work. Did you find out anything?
It would be fantastic if you could please do a video showing the recovery process from a backup too. I had both drives die at once on my DS 216j and it was quite a mission to get my files back, as I wasn't familiar with Hyper Backup's format (I had all files sent to AWS S3 Glacier).
Thanks for this!
I love your videos! 1 question: What is the difference between the ShareSync to another external NAS and the Hyperbackup method to another external NAS? Should be even in price. What should I run on my private NAS (manly for photos, not that busy)?
Nice overview! 👏 Is there any sensible way to handle a 3-2-1 backup setup with two NASes (on-site & off-site) of which the on-site one wouldn't be exposed to the Internet at all?
So with hyper backup you do not have to expose the primary NAS to the internet at all. Just the single hyper backup port on the backup unit. To go further than that setup a vpn between the two
Have u tried Tailscale? No port forwarding required. Your videos are very clear and maybe one with that method ?
So glad to come across this informative video. Excellent comparison.
I wonder whether the issue of deleting and re-uploading/downloading renamed files have been fixed or not?
If not, what is the best alternative to Synology in that regard?
this issue is only for cloud sync. Unfortunately due to the fact that they have to work with any cloud there does not seem to be a good way to get around this
@@SpaceRexWill This is really unfortunate.
@@SpaceRexWill Is there a workaround that can be done to have the "sync" happen in real time? Like using HyperBackup or a third party tool..
Great video.. I was wondering. I have just bought a second NAS to back up my main NAS. What RAID would you recommend? Does the backup data need to be 'backed up' in a SHR RAID? I was thinking a RAID 0 is better as drives can be quickly replaced in the backup NAS should a failure occur?
What about using Glacier Backup? I like it because of the price. My NAS is used just for home/family so I use glacier for my photos and documents.
Hi, thanks for the great Video. Two things that I would be interested in, as I am a home user with a second Nas at my brothers:
If using HyperBackup to secure the NAS, would it be better to run one giant job, that encompasses everything or set up multiple tasks, one for the photos, one for the music folder, one for the movies etc.
Second question: As my primary Nas is a little bigger (kind of the natural progression for home users where the initial NAS becomes the backup) I am interested in storage efficiency. Which method will allow me to use the least space on the backup target to still back up the whole primary.
Hi Fabian, you have the same setup as i do, smaller jobs rather than a big one has various benefits, frequency depends how precious the data is, with good redundancy in place on your primary NAS the offsite backup is only really used in a total disaster like theft/fire, for optimising space Hyperbackup does a great job at making it as small as it gets
Generally I do one mammoth task for people, fewer things to check fewer things to go wrong.
Times where I will separate it out is when you have data that is changing all the time that you don't need a ton of versions of. I will have a task that keeps data for a short amount of time and one that goes for a longer period
Hi , Thanks for sharing your knowledge about NAS systems. I have a question and I would be even happier to have your answer. Is Possible to use "Active Backup for Business" for normal users or can just and only be used for admin level users?? the context is the follow: I would like my brother use the " Active Backup for Business"; he is using my NAS, but I have him as a normal user, I am the only administrator. NOTE. he have a Mac.
Great review! I'm currently using TrueNAS for home on old hardware, and planning to migrate data to Synology, how would you recommend to perform it? And is it worth migrating to Synology or buy newer hardware for TrueNAS?
I would use rsync to copy the data over
I know this is an old videos and there are so many comments I don't know if anybody else has said the same, but as much as I love the ease of use, both active backup and hyperbackup have been absolutely unreliable crap for me. I have 6 of them (whatever rack mount models they are). My backup jobs total about 50TB at the moment. doesn't matter if the jobs are incremental or mirroring, doesn't matter if I spit the job up into much smaller sizes, they'll run for a week or two and then fail with the message "contact Synology support" who just seem like a waste of time.
Hey Rex!!! Quick question. Is there a way to use USB copy and only copy one folder inside of a shared folder? When I try to open it in the location option, nothing comes up. Only the main folder. Thank you for your help!
Hi , first of all let me appreciate your hard work and guidance that you provide which is remarkable so thank you for that. I really love and admire your passion towards it.
Now my question is that I want to know if there is any option available in Synology to prohibit users from deleting files or moving any folder. There is one option i saw which worked actually but it also didn't allow to rename files or folder if i enable that option.
So just wondering if there is any way of doing exactly what I want ?
So do you want users to only be able to read files?
No they do edit as well but cant delete files or folders or can't move folders
you would have to dive into the advanced permissions, I don't think you will be Able to get it exactly what you want but you will be able to get it close
@12:22 you mention your 3/2/1 backup solution... sounds great, but why configure your Main NAS to do the offsite backup instead of your secondary onsite to do offsite? Seems like that would reduce CPU load / Network traffic on the main-onsite NAS.
I NEVER recommend backup from your backup. you should ALWAYS backup from the source of truth. The reason is your backup unit could silently fail and you might not notice. But you certainly would notice if you main unit failed. By having your backup always come from the main unit you are removing a source of failure in your backup train.
Furthermore hyperbackup is very efficient and takes almost no CPU to run
@@SpaceRexWill great answer, thanks.
Interesting options!
My shop uses VMWare, so Active Backup for Biz is great for backing up our VMs. But what is an easy way (through Synology software) for these VM backups to be replicated nightly (over a slow internet connection) to a remote site and how exactly can I do a failover restore of these said VMs on new ESXi hosts of that remote site? Maybe a video on this subject would help…
You would send them over as a snapshot replication. Synology has a workflow for it
backups are reflections of computers over time, but change with the computer so are not archive. what is synology's best option for archival data dump, for those files one wants to save forever?
Thanks for these great tutorials! Following your advice I had an on-site DS920+ with Hyper Backup saving it offsite every night to a DS418j. One day, the backup failed and I got the following error message “Restore only. Destination corrupted”. I was never able to restart Hyper Backup and had to reset my (perfectly working) DS418j and the entire backup from scratch. This looks like a bug in HB. Did I miss something?
I have seen that once or twice in my consulting. I think it can (rarely) happen when there is a really poorly timed power outage during a backup or a glitch.
It does restore only to protect the user from a corrupted backup
Extremely useful. Please could you also cover how to "Backing up a PC hard drive to my Synology Naz", I tied to use Active Backup for Business, but all that did was copy files lots of times and filled up lots of space on the Synology Naz. My lack of understanding. I needed a local backup for the PC to a Naz
thanks for this video it makes things clear. However, I have tried to do a usb copy backing up a directory onto a SSD USB drive and it appears to work but is EXTREMELY slow, to the point of being usless. I have seen forums about this noting that this has been an issue for some time - sorry but this is a basic function of a NAS which it should do without issue.
My friend and I want to backup via hyper-backup to each others NAS. We are unsure about how to setup the drives. Would you recommend to use 2 volumes on each NAS, one for the backup of the friend and one for the own DSM? Or would it make more sense to just have one big volume?
Nice but for Active Backup for business I miss the really cool feature like backup virtual machines, file server, complete PC´s etc. That´s really one of the most valuable benefits it´s has. And what’s fantastic: You get it without licensing every machine you backup with it. So it´ s a real cool feature!
Thank you for the videos I've learned so much. A quick question can i save an active backup on my Synology drive permanently?
Yes you can. Just use the lock symbol on it and it will not delete
@@SpaceRexWill Ok but I don't see a lock anywhere
So good! Thank you….
Few questions, if one was to;
1. Using HyperBackup to Google Drive - This is going to be in a single .HBK format right (multi-version)? Its purely an external backup, in order to restore data on your NAS.
2. Using HyperBackup to Google Drive - Assume if you rename a folder (keep the same ISO files inside), then it's going to re-upload the entire contents, as you mentioned?
3. Using C2 Cloud - Assume you can view/see the individual files inside the .HBK container? Unsure if it will re-upload the entire contents if a folder is renamed (where the contents remain the same).
4. HyperBackup to Cloud is to simply backup (offsite) in case of the NAS physically stolen / caught fire (along with external USB backup)
5. HyperBackup to USB is to simply backup (onsite) in case of the NAS hardware failure / hacked etc - Faster without the need to download the backup from cloud server.
Is the above correct? I think C2 Cloud makes sense if it doesn't need to re-upload the entire data if it's simply a file rename, that would save a ton of upload bandwidth. I just don't know where to find this information?
Guessing the way to go is;
- HyperBackup (onsite backup) - USB HDD
- HypderBackup (offsite backup) - Cloud
- Snapshots Replication (dual nas) - Main purpose is to avoid downtime if the main NAS fails. You mentioned its read only, does that mean users cannot save new files to it if the main NAS is down? Also, I'm assuming the secondary NAS needs to support BTRFS?
my primary backup mechanism is HyperBackup but I also use Drive primarily to lower latency on many activities (such as photography). The one issue I constantly feel like I don't know enough about is whether I should have any "versions" saved on Drive if the drive share's directory is backed up on HyperBackup. My assumption is no but I can't help to think i'm maybe missing an edge case.
By selecting 'drive' under the hyperbackup application it should backup all of your configs, including versions I believe
hi, in the past you also suggested removte backup on a raspberry pi using rsync which you don't mention here.
Thank you!
With Snapshot Repication on an iscsi LUN (VM datastore), it seems when you want to 'recover' you have recover the entire LUN which in my case is 8 VMs. I was really hoping the recovery was more granular, allowing me to choose a specific VM folder on the LUN to restore. If one of my VMs crashed I may want to recover just that one not all 8 of them. Is there any workaround to this?
Would you consider a video on SyncThing ? In spite of its name, it can do one way copies, scheduled backups and versioning.
Thanks!
thank you!
Is it possible to run Snapshot Replication and Hyperbackup from a source NAS to a remote destination NAS to get the best of both solutions? How about the same from multiple source NAS to a single offsite destination NAS?
Did your Business 3-2-1 set up video ever come out? Mentioned @12:10 ... I looked but maybe it's named something different... Thanks!
could you do a thorough SSL set-up video for TrueNas core?
ive tried to follow the guides but they feel all over the place and i haven't been able to complete it for months
The reason I have not done one is that users really should not be opening TrueNAS directly to the internet, meaning that lets encrypt will not work. I would just use a self signed cert and trust it in the browser.
Hello, thanks for all your videos. Helped me a lot with complete NAS settings.
I am now fighting with this situation though and I am not really sure if any of these apps would help.
Till now I've had all my photos on external disk. I copied all of it on NAS. So now I have exactly the same copy on NAS and on exetrnal disk.
Now if I create a folder in NAS, put there some photos, delete a photo from some older folder, rename another folder ... what I would like is that ... if I now plug in the external disk into the NAS, I would like all these changes happen also on the external disk. Without any of my assistance.
And vice versa - if I delete a photo on external drive, I would like the same to happen on NAS after I plug the disk in.
Is any of these apps capable of this kind of synchronization? Or is it utopia?
Maybe I'm taking the wrong approach. How do you guys deal with this?
The way I interpreted Snapshot Replication, it would only be beneficial for fail over. What about a home user with a single NAS that supports Snapshot Replication? Is it worth doing the Replication to another NAS that doesn't support Snapshot Replication or a local drive, for a possible quicker recovery?
Snapshot replication will only replicate to a BTRFS NAS. (That’s actually the way it works, the primary just sends the BTRFS snapshot to the secondary’s file system directly)
For home users hyperbackup is what I would strongly recommend
Awesome content as usual !
1:00 I don't understand redundant RAID for home users. For businesses which need high *availability* of their data with almost no downtime, sure. For my personal use, at the current price of storage I largely prefer using extra discs for storage rather than redundancy, given you should anyway have a backup should your NAS breaks down.
As you said, RAID is not a backup, so I bought a DS220+ with 2x 8Tb, one for data and one for backup, and then I have realized it is not a good idea to have the backup disk all the time connected because under an attack, it would be infected as well. What do you recommend to have the backup on another no NAS casebox and automatically connect and disconnect for backup? Thanks!
Not necessarily! if you set the second one up as a hyperbackup vault and give it no external access other than that you its very limited as to what the could attack. To further protect yourself enable snapshots on the backup so that even if the primary deletes the backup the secondary has a spare
Great Videos! Is there a way to back up iPhone (not photos) to Synology NASrom iMac?
Unfortunately not possible. But if you backup your photos to NAS, then the free 5GB iCloud storage may be enough to backup rest of your phone.
So I’m looking to use a external SSD to back up my music folder only, eventually maybe also family photos on another external SSD, so USB copy.
However, the folders are added to daily, I’d like to plug it in and start the Active backup if possible, I’m used to doing this with .bat files with xcopy on several drives.
I forget if I can mount the Synology NAS as a drive and place a copy of the .bat file - to only do a Delta update, is this possible?
"If you are a massive enterprise setup ... you should hire me." xD. I am just a nerd looking for single family backup but if I ever become CTO at work, I will make sure to reach out. Thanks for the overview.
Haha thanks!
I have hyperbackup running because of your videos. And since it is for home. it will be backed-up on a external hdd every day.
in computer \\servername\ you can see all the content if you have access.
I have task for snapshots
i have task for hyperbackup
i have task for smart test weekly, 3 months
i have task for something
all because your videos.
What is currently the difference between backing up one NAS to another NAS using either Hyper Backup or Active Backup for Business?
RIght now they both seem to do the same for me...
hi will you have videos on how tyo set up a nas (DS200J) for a non IT?Tech person??thanks
Which should I use , I have HyperBackup or SnapShot Replication, I have 2 Synology boxes , which is more better when the SHTF , Setting both up no issues. what is more robust.
Hyperbackup is more robust in my experience
I moved all the files from my old PC over to my new (first NAS) so now I have a bunch of old PC HDDs I was thinking of using as offline backups. I don't really care about being able to roll back my files to previous versions I just want to be sure I won't lose my stuff if my NAS dies so would just using the USB thing (with my old HDDs in a docking station) suffice or what did you mean by it not getting everything?
useful this cheers
I have an OWC RAID5 System (DAS) with 98 TB backed up with Backblaze Computer backup that only backs up computer and connected drives (like my DAS) but not the NAS. I recently bought the NAS and while I'm waiting for it to arrive I'm wondering if there is a solution that I could backup my NAS to the DAS and this DAS would be backed up by Backblaze. Do you know if it's possible? PS: I'm kinda newbie. I'm just know a little bit more because of your videos which I'm very grateful.
I also connect via SSH to my NAS to run rsync to an external hard drive - then the data is stored offline in a human-readable format. I combine that with Hyper Backup in case the Hyper Backup container becomes corrupt or perhaps there’s a bug that prevents Hyper Backup restore.
You can also just set that up as a task to run every night through control pannel
@@SpaceRexWill That’s true and I keep forgetting to do that!!!! 🤣
But I also like manually reviewing the statistics at the end (-stats), though I could likely write it to an rsync log file anyway.
Thanks for the truly brilliant content; I’ve used Synology in business and home for years and your content truly is fantastic - I treated myself to a 923+ for Christmas.
Assuming I am doing a daily backup, I understand that after the first time the subsequent backups are incremental. If this is true (?) how does retention works? Since restoring a backup requires the initial full backup plus all changes, then the initial backup should never be removed (by a possible rotation) !! Unless there is something that I do not "see", i.e. that every X days there is a new full blown full backup again thus backup before that can be safely be removed by the rotation.... please help.
I just setup Hyperbackup to sync to my QNAP NAS. It all connected and created the folder on the QNAP automatically. But then I had a change of mind. Unfortunately, it is now impossible to delete the folders that were created on my QNAP. I've used the QNAP file manager, changed permissions, tried my SFTP file transfer app, and I even screamed and cursed at both of them. Nothing works.
I have a question. I own an NBA Jam arcade1up cabinet. It has online play. only support 2.4ghz wifi but it has a micro 2.0 usb port for ethernet. I have att fiber 1000 and am connected via ethernet with a cat-6 ethernet cable and smays micro usb ethernet adapter. Lately I have had a lot of dropped games; interrupted connections. I've been back and forth with arcade1up so much that they just sent me a new PCB. I haven't installed it yet. I got the router replaced and wanted to get the adapter replaced before I install the PCB. If you can help please let me know. Why am I getting so many dropped connections?
I think i missed something, is there a way to backup externally to multiple drives, like if i have 40tb to backup and 3 14tb drives is there a way to back them up either individually (like when its full it waits for you to replace with next one) or with usb hub for complete backup. I keep seeing videos say one drive bit what if your data is more than one drive?
In that case you have to split the jobs manually. Basically create multiple backup tasks. X backs up some folders drive y backs up others
Thanks , Q :: To view the files on another NAS using ISCSI with replication backup (active passive), do we need to stop the replication to view the files on the destination LUN as an ISCSI disk ?
You would do a test fail over
iSCSI generally is something I avoid because of this
@@SpaceRexWill thank you for your reply, unfortunately, we have to use it since we need to connect a DVR system -DVR limitation-. Thank you again.
Can hyperbackup backup to an external USB drive? Home user looking for backups for NAS and wanted to have 2 ext USB drives that I swap and one is offsite. But still not sure how hyperbackup would differ from USB copy in this scenario.
I have active backup running into another nas, if primary nas gets hacked and they have admin access, can they also delete my backups on another nas where they do not have admin access, only access to backup.
I would snapshot the folder on the backup NAS just in case. This way you could recover from it
Is there any reason to use synology drive client for backing up a PC over Active Backup for Business?
We use drive sync. It takes longer but there's no compression which means if we an entire cluster fails, we can get a backup up within minutes.
I would actually use snapshot replication for this!
@@SpaceRexWill nah the snapshot always fails and then you need to start over. Imagine trying to copy 100tb that way. With drive sync, any failure just leads to a pause and you can resume the one-way sync anytime. Snapshots also need to be restored and that takes FOREVER with 100tb. I've tried every synology backup method. Drive Sync isn't the fastest, but it's the best for me.
^the Beauty of snapshots is their ability to instantly restore. The entire time the backup unit is read only, and can just be failed over.
The problem I have run into with drive is it just cannot handle massive amounts of files without grinding to a halt / missing something
What do you recommend for Hyper Back on external hard drive, to format in exFat or ext4? I found there are capacity overhead issue when formatting in exFat, 12TB data can’t fit into 16.4TB hard drive, but if you do ext4, you could do 15.2TB data into 16.4TB for no problem. Why is that? I know exFat could be read by Linus and Microsoft system, but ext4 could only do by Synology C2.
That exfat overhead is not something that I have seen before
Hi, really great video...I liove the others, a lot of good informations...anyway...I looking for replication of my folders and files...a lot of this methods you described working with a container in which the backup is placed on the other Synology NAS. Is there somethings which workrs based on the folders and files an sync them to a second Diskstation 1:1 and later only the new data and also over the internet to a second place where the second NAS is hoset? I did not talked about rsyn probaly...would this work?
Thats going to be synology drive sync
With CloudSync, you better have a fast Internet connection if you have tens of TB's of data. I do find that HyperBackup is very slow when working with about 1.5+ million files and tens of TB of data.
Is there an issue with using Time Machine backups to a on sight or off site Nas?
@spacerex Can the back up to USB be both ways. If I make any changes to the External hardrive will it make them to the NAS
No it will not
Hey dude, i just had a question. Would it be possible for me to backup an 8 TB synology NAS to two external 4 TB hard disks?
For my virual servers on a iscsi LUN on RS1221rp+ (NAS1), I would like 'uptime' and 3 'recovery points' per day. What is recommeded? Snapshot replication between 2 NAS? This will allow me to instantly start a VM on NAS2 from 2 hours ago if the VM crashed. That way downtime is minimal, and if one of my VMs gets corrupted I can essentially roll back a couple of hours. Does this mean Snapshot replication does it all? Maybe yes... unless I use Hyperbackup to send LUNs from NAS2 to a 3rd NAS offsite
Yes this is exactly what you want. I would also change the send time to once an hour (if not more) and just set the retention policy to fit your needs
I've have been testing the difference between using HyperBackup and USB Copy to an external USB drive. My test is using a 37GB folder on my DS918+. Hyperbackup is taking 3-4 times longer to do the backup. Is this normal? I have also tried the test with and without compression. The uncompressed test takes slightly longer. Thanks
So Hyperbackup takes a while to start the backup. For a 37 gig folder this is a large part of the actual process. The reason for this is Hyperbackup is making a snapshot of the file system before it backs up. This way it will ensure that the files are all constant in the backup.
If you tried with a larger directory then you would find them a lot closer
ABB NAS to NAS also requires identical hardware in the release notes, at least the disks have to be in identical slot numbers. It's designed for a place that has identical redundant hardware. Very inflexible.
I just spent a while looking for this and could not find it. Could you send me those release notes?
@@SpaceRexWill will see if I can find them here. Was a buried note in the link to the release notes that was in their announcement email. Basically said “disks have to be in the same slot numbers during a restore”. I was surprised by it.
HOW DO YOU USE SYNOLOGY AS A BACK UP DESTINATION FROM ANOTHER RAID - I have a DRobo DAS attached to my computer which houses my data storage (DAS allows me to use Backblaze to store it to the cloud. I want to back up my Drobo to the SYNOLOGY on my home network
You will want to use either synology drive backup or synology active backup for business
i am having problems with my hyper backup restore. after migrating hdds from a ds1621+ to a ds1821+ all my config, apps etc. was gone so i wanted to restore from my local hyper backup synology. getting error: "restore failed to import applications from "ipbackup"
Isn't another advantage of Snapshot Replication that it is more efficient than HyperBackup in that it causes less network traffic? I am wondering how much more traffic does it cause?
Hyperbackup has compression. But overall if you need the fastest speeds snapshot should be it