NAS is a great upgrade if you own so many external HDDs lying around and want to consolidate your files. Also with SHR you can get some form of redundancy. Just don't expose to the internet, disable default admin profile and you're good to go. Also get a UPS that can communicate to your NAS because rebuilding drives can take hours or even days.
What do you mean by 'dont expose to the internet' -- most people running a NAS want to be able to connect to it via the internet (access photos, docuements, etc). As long as you read the docs and only open ports specifically for NAS use you should be fine.
ya but what if they are not NAS-TYPE drives? like seagate 3TB barracuda or Tohisba x300 WD Blue 2TB , blacks, etc... I dont have any NAS type drives but have several drives laying around
@@chrishalle1982 Look into installing tailscale on your synology. Sets up a VPN from single devices to your NAS. No ports required to be opened at the router
my recommended tip is do not rely on the raid you should back it up periodically onto a separate drive even if it’s just a single disc better to have redundant Data then rely on any single piece of equipment.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:40 🖥️ Consider buying a 4-bay NAS instead of a 2-bay NAS to have more storage space. 01:22 🔄 Set up SHR-1 RAID for redundancy and to retain data in case of drive failure. 03:17 🐧 Use Btrfs file system for more features and flexibility. 04:41 💻 Decide if you need a NAS (network attached storage) or a DAS (direct attached storage) based on your specific needs and speed requirements. 06:31 🔒 Be cautious when opening ports for port forwarding and avoid opening SMB port to the internet to prevent hacking attempts. 08:48 📸 Use Btrfs snapshots to easily revert to previous versions of files, and regularly backup important data on your NAS. Made with HARPA AI
Thanks for putting this video together. I am a 25 year veteran IT professional. I work with the MUCH bigger RAIDS. But I am unfamiliar with these smaller newer devices. I just purchased (hasn't arrived yet) a 2 bay NAS to drop a pair of 18T's into for a media/movie server for the family. SO the kids can watch their favorites on one TV and other watch something else. The Data is already backed up via other means and all I need for it to do is stream movies. My plan is to do a RAID 0. I am investigating the best fie system to use. something with as little overhead and latency as possible as I wont be serving outside my LAN.
I'm in same boat. Just need space what I can access anywhere on my network that it's not going out side to the internet. Stupid phones are filling up fast. Backing them up only means putting them away where I can't access them. So NAS would be good option for easy access.
@@dummyload7803 It took me 2 weeks to put it there to begin with. I do not regret it either...The unit has been rock solid. AND I have loved using some of the other features... Like the VPN Server & Synology Drive Client. But I get your point... I will probably be looking to upgrade to a 4-6 bay next year.
there's a good back-up option that didn't occur to me after buying and setting up my NAS - have a big Ol' HDD enclosure in another room and when you get big files, like photos or videos from a shoot, just go on up and connect your laptop to the HDDs and dump it over. Waaaaay faster than wifi, big files protected, and you have a copy on you main machine too. Of course depends what you want to do but if it's mainly back up and your files are big and only update occasionally. Do this.
@@negueba235689of course they can, but not one of youtubers will tell you this. How can they make new videos for people to buy new equipment from sponsored links if they give the simpler solution: BUY BIGGER DRIVES! Of course the +2 bays give more options but for a simple storage for a normal user (4-10 TB) a two bay will get work done
One thing I would add about the DAS: Do your research. I have a WD MyBook DAS and its functionality is limited by the firmware of the DAS not playing nice with the BIOS/UEFI. If you have a DAS expanding your memory locally, it likely will be via USB cable into your PC of choice. Boot from USB is a thing on most systems, and on some like mine (Lenovo) even if you de-prioritize and disable USB boot (moving it to the bottom of the boot order under SATA, DVD, etc., it will still try to boot via USB. Not sure why, but it results in me having to disconnect the DAS USB in the back of my pc every time it starts up. So every time I boot up, restart, or even restart during an update, I have to make sure my WD DAS is disconnected. What's more, if I saved a restorable image on my WD DAS and wanted to connect it, wipe my PC, and restore from that point in time snapshot USING THE SOFTWARE THAT COMES WITH THE WD DAS TO DO SO, I cannot. Because wiping and restoring involves cycling the power with a connected DAS, it has gotten stuck in the process every single time and I have to cancel the restore. Best case scenario, I plug this into a different PC with a thumb drive or other removable storage as well, copy over the image I want to restore from and use that as the restore USB without the fancy Acronis or WD software. It's garbage.
Homie, I've watched so many of your videos since becoming interested in buying a NAS (and doing so within a few days). You know so much about these! It's like I stumbled upon a station on Interdimensional Cable, and I'm hooked!
i've owned a 5 bay Drobo for years and lately wanted to see if there was any firmware updates and notices that their company website is offline and was not too happy with them shutting shop. So i started investigating a suitable upgrade and came across your very informative RUclips videos, and made the switch to the DS723+ for me it's more than sufficient as a home user. I need it up an running and will go though your vault of videos to configure it. Keep up the good work.
Thanks. Yep, I think I'll get the four bay when I upgrade my 720+ in a couple of years time. Btw, for anyone who's interested, for backups I use the USB Copy package- not sure if it was you or someone else who recommended it. Simple and easy to copy the desired shared folders monthly to a portable USB drive and store off site.
To add to the RAID discussion, I messed that up on my first NAS. I saw the options and said to myself "I'm familiar with RAID-5" and chose that. This was a mistake. If I had chosen SHR1, I would have had the same initial storage, and would have had the ability to replace drives with higher capacity HD's later to increase my storage space. So ... I wasn't able to do that with RAID-5. That's now been rectified, but it was a major pain in the brass to fix it.
@@mario-sz I use SHR-1 with a 1511+ and DX1510 (10 HDDs) for around 11 Years. Started with 2 TB Drives and over the Years going to 4 and now 8 TB Drives. Nice Feature. The next replacement of one 4 TB Drive for an 8 is already in sight. Takes a long Time (around 5 Days, but that's okay for me). Next step are 16 TB Drives. I don't know the Hardware Limit of the old 1511+. According to Synologys HDD List that would be 6 TB Drives but why not?
I have a 4 bay symbology NAS, running RAID 5. Initially I set it up with 2 x 2TB, and 2 x 1TB domestic disks. 1 disk died, and I replaced them with 4 x 4TB NAS disks, and increased the storage space, during the upgrading process (DSM offers you the option as you replace the drives). It took me most of a day to actually swap out the old disks (shutdown 1 disk, remove, swap, repair volume, wait, rinse, lather, repeat)
Large storage is so cheap, my personal opinion is that a two-bay NAS is fine for most home users. With a two-drive NAS using RAID 1 for data redundancy, you can have 1, 2, 3, 5, 10, 16 or even 20 TB of storage space. I have been storing data to my NAS for 15 years, including a few videos, about 150 ripped CDs, and document backup from multiple computers. Still, I am using less than 0.3 TB (300 GB) of storage space. Also, Synology recommends using the BTRFS file system, which seems good for RAID 1, but even the BTRFS developers recommend against using it for RAID 5 or RAID 6.
Also, even though I am using RAID 1 on my NAS, I still back it up to a DAS. I prefer doing this in lieu of doing tripple redundancy on the NAS itself (which would require a NAS with more than two bays). That way, if the NAS fails, I can plug the DAS into a computer and quickly access the data.
@@terryforsythe8083 what's 2? i have a 718+ and i'm running low on disk space. was thinking about getting bigger hard drives, but then got curious about the nas life expectancy and if i should just hold out for a nas with more bays. i've had mine for 3yrs
@@christophercoronado9551 2 means I have bought two Synologys. I am on my second one. The first one was still working when I replaced it. It was just slow by modern standards.
Another one to add (only because I made this mistake)...Purchasing HDD that are incompatible with NAS. I bought the Synology DS224+ and also the WD 20TB Red (two pack). Only to find out afterwards that the drives are incompatible. Yuck. Big mistake.
I got a 2 bay 4 years ago, now wishing I had gotten a 4 bay. I’ll probably build one when it comes time. Just bumped it up to 18tb disks for more storage space.
You got me, rethinking whether I need a NAS for my small home music studio, where it will essentially just be me at one Does the NAS have a big advantage over DAS if I want to add a couple surveillance cameras through my ethernet switch?
There are not many tech enthusiasts who can explain things plain and simple to masses. You can and it’s awesome. I watched several of your videos and understood everything. Thank you, you’re a lifesaver 👏
It is a very good practice to turn on Geo IP on the firewall and block entries from all countries except your own;) DS1621xs+ does not have SHR .... no comment ........
None of the XS units have SHR because of performance issues. SHR can give you non uniform performance with mixed drive sizes, and synology assumes XS users want max performance at all times
Cautionary tale: I opened the VPN port, and quickly had some brute force attacks. I ended up setting up the firewall to block everything except the site where the other synology is connecting to the VPN from. It's not worth the stress and potential of being hacked to leave it open.
totally agree.. 2-bay NAS was the biggest mistake i recommend 5+ bay even when you don't use it. ssds become cheaper and cheaper and you'll need the bays
I was curious about what a NAS was and I looked up one video and now you're all over my youtube home page. This is bad.. I'm gonna watch these videos and eventually break down and buy a NAS. I know it.
Thx for this video Please lt me know this detail: I working alone with my foto-video, but need a saceure backup for all my files. When I put there two hdd in RAID1, with the SHR and BTRFS systsem file - what when one of the disk will failing? - Can I take the secound one out of the NAS and have acces to it in normal windows PC (all the drive in PC are NTFS system file) and what after this fail - buy a new drive and put it together to the NAS with the secound RAID1 copy - this will make a check and copy all files so they will be synchronized?
It might be a little late but I hope this helps: when you have 2 identical drives and use them in RAID 1 or SHR-1 (which are different but with 2 drives only it’s basically the same) and one drive fails, you can simply continue using your NAS. All the features will work just like before. The next best option you have is to get a replacement drive and exchange that with the broken one in the NAS. If for some reason you want to use the working HDD in your windows pc, connecting that via SATA will not simply work. Even if it is unencrypted, you would have to use some programs to get BTRFS readable on your machine. But as mentioned above, there is no need to do that. If you really want a NAS, additionally or instead of using RAID you should still have at least one more copy of all the contents of your NAS somewhere else.
I sort of fall into the first category, because when I bought my NAS 12 months ago, I got a 2 bay Synology NAS DS220J. Although I have not used the space as I have only used close to a 1TB of the 4 available. But subsequently I have started digitising my DVD/ Blu ray movies, and TV series to stream them. So Now I am thinking maybe of eventually upgrading the NAS. I have more or less closed the NAS down so I can only access it through my Home network, not from the wider world.
"Port-forwarding is not easy" - I've got to disagree there fully. The principe of port-forwarding is very easy to explain, show and teach to someone who knows zero about networking, routers and ports. Some bad software design can make it appear difficult for sure, but I think you're underserving people by telling them its not easy. It is easy to understand, learn and do regardless of a user's technical experience. "Do you need a NAS?" though is a very good question that most should ask themselves.
It's easy if you happen to have the right conditions. Try port forwarding when your ISP uses CGNAT and you have no real IPv4 address. So far I have seen no solution to this other than buying a static IP.
@@roytreves3998 You can use a VPN to provide a public IP. Example: my FW has an OpenVPN server/client connection to a Linode instance to get around the CGNAT issue. You could also use something like a Cloudflare Argo tunnel, zero tier networking, or use a VPN service that has a dedicated IP / port option. Note your existing router must be capable of supporting these features or you will need to evaluate a replacement.
@@SgtKilgore406 Thank you very much for the informative reply! Fortunately we were able to solve the issue simply by asking our ISP to remove the NAT and give us a real dynamic IP. Unbelievably enough, they actually did. I guess because most customers don't really care about CGNAT, it doesn't hurt them to give out a few real addresses for those who actually need them. Hopefully this also helps anyone else who is encountering this issue. It never hurts to try.
@@roytreves3998 I use Starlink as my primary and a local DSL as a fallback connection. Starlink cannot supply me a public IP unless I purchase the business plan. The Linode instance solves that. I have a dedicated public IP with the local DSL provider but the down/up speeds limit its usefullness. They are rolling out fiber though and with luck will have FTTH in a year or two. Having Starlink has dramatically alleviated the need for fast internet from the local ISP so I don't mind waiting.
@@SgtKilgore406 We are also very eager to get fiber. So far mostly buildings are receiving them and we just have to wait. It sucks because we can see the fiber cables less than 20 meters from our house but they refuse to connect us at the moment. I'm wondering what kind of speeds are you getting with Starlink? Also how reliable is it? We don't have it here yet but it should arrive in the next year or two. Although hopefully we get fiber by then.
A Raid 1 setup for a 2bay nas is correct. I have upgraded my 2 bay nas from 4TB to 12TB. Now as the end of life of this nas appears I am looking for a 4 bay nas that and raid 6. Unfortunately, with my current NAS, the raid setting was lost twice. Which took ages to rebuilt.
My plan is to get 2 NAS drives, set them up in 2 different countries in my homes, and use Synology Drive Sync. I guess for that I"ll be fine with 2 bay drives (Synology 723+). If you have better recommendations, I'm happy for that.
When I started out a year ago, I bought the DS220j and set it up with EXT4... no BTRFS as an option, had it about a week and the DS220+ went on sale so I bought that and returned the 220j. I wish now that there was an easy way to convert it to get the extra benefits.
I have disabled my default admin and guest account. I already knew I'll be using btrfs file system since I use this also on my Linux PC and knew the benefits. I have also enabled 2fa for better security. Recently, I have configured my hardware firewall in a way that unless I'm using a VPN (with a specific ip address I configured before hand), I won't be able to connect to my NAS. My NAS only have one port open to the Internet but if anyone tries to connect to it without the VPN I specified, it will not even respond and would appear to be offline (not closed) as to trick the other that it doesn't even exist. 😎
Im ok with a 2 bay nas the synology ones support up to 108 tb. I have 2 20 tb harddrives installed with shr and btrfs. I can switch to a higher drive if needed. Maybe i do when 100 tb hdds get cheaper. I use my nas with my family for audiostation chat photos drive and office and we use 2 tb at the moment so its enough.
well, even if 100TB drives ... if they will ever exist anyway ... becomes quite cheap i would not build a 2bay nas with 2 100TB drives. I would not even build a 4bay withthem. As of this writing i guess the biggest are 20TB and even that gives me the creeps. When you learn how these drives manage to store all these bits you may get a little nervous yourself. You can not put so many disks in that 3.5´ housing
That was a great roundup; always enjoyed and appreciated. A topic for a future video perhaps - opening ports on a NAS vs opening ports on a router and best practices. I still find the whole thing a bit confusing but fortunately, I don't need internet access to my home network. And a question : I would like to backup my Synology NAS to my QNAP NAS using Rsync. IIRC, that uses SSH which requires a port to be opened. Does that create much, if any, risk to a home network not connected to the internet ? ( The alternative, which I currently do, is to use an old PC with FreeFileSync backup/sync software to act as a backup agent between the NAS's. It's free and easy but is one more machine on the network. )
I think LAN side connection should be pretty safe, because LAN side hacks would require a backdoor or hard access to your network if you don't open any port to WAN. Use a non administrative user to do the connection. Or use other backup solution like Syncthing.
It's much more secure to set up a VPN server on your network to remotely access your NAS instead of using port forwarding. Something like Wireguard VPN on a raspberry pi is way more secure.
my NAS just get attacked by Ransomware, about a month ago, but lucky me the virus just encrypted 2 from 8 shared folder and not the Critical folder one... bit i want to know what kind of backup more easy to setup and also secure to this kind of virus..
So there are 2 places I have ever seen a synology get ransomeward : 1) they had the SMB port open to the internet (big no) 2) they had a computer connected to the NAS via SMB get infected, which then cryptoed the NAS
So the thing about RAID is, it’s just a mirror, not a backup. If you accidentally delete all of your files, they are deleted off both drives at the exact same time, same thing with a hard crash or something like that. A backup should be an independent action
If we back up a back up, does that make it a front up or back down? If a 4 bay nas dies, does it take the drives down with it or do you mean back up so in case of fire or something like that?
Yea, I may need to re-evaluate considering more than just having 1 drive for a backup in case of a failure. I may decide to go to a 2 drive Raid. Thanks for the info.
yes, but, you will get tons (well, a lot) of msgs saying that someone is trying to enter o that port thinking its just a SSH Port. Opening ports is always a pain because some moron or some softwarescanners try to invade your nas
I'm completely new to this and all of the videos that I am finding seem to be in a super technical language. Primarily i want to manage my blu-ray and DVD collection . Can someone recommend some videos on this subject in English?
Backup is ABSOLUTELY ABSOLUTELY ABSOLUTELY necessary. I had a drive fail on my 4 bay hybrid raid system a couple of weeks ago. When I replaced the drive the whole volume crashed. The good news is that I'd invested in a second nas which I keep offsite. All it took was to restore from hyperbackup and a couple of days for the data to sync and not one mb of data was lost. (I had about 150000 photos) If I'd neglected the backup there would have been tears or at the very least weeks of work to rebuild everything
That's pretty sad to hear that a basic RAID wasn't able to be recovered. What is the point of running a RAID at all? Seems like wasted hard drive space when you can just use 2 NAS' and recover using your backup. Are these things RAID's known to fail like that often?
@@andrewa3216 it's not common but it can, and does happen. A lot of people think that raid is perfect but as with any technology things can and do go wrong, so it's best to be prepared
@Washing Up Liquid Raid is not a full backup solution. It will certainly reduce the likelihood of you losing data giving you some redundancy, but the raid still needs to be backed up, preferably off site. As a minimum backup your raid onto an external harddrive which you store offsite. The second option is to backup your RAID to the cloud or thirdly if the cloud becomes prohibitively expensive because you have so much data (as in my case), backup to a second raid system (again offsite preferably). Good luck with it.
Hi Will, i have recently discovered your channel as i research the topic of purchasing my first nas proper. well some time back, i have owned a single drive buffalo linkstation, but i now want to step up to the big league. your content and your videos are proving to be a very valuable resource packed with great tips and advice. in a few of your videos (ones i have watched) you have made reference to having a mariadb instance available in your homelab. a couple of my docker containers make use of their own database instances and i would love to see you make a video on how your are leveraging mariadb in your own homelab setup (does it/will it run on a synology ?). cheers for the content, time now to watch the linked video on raid options
Hi, I've been using the Drobo 5D3 for a long time, I like the workflow and speed of the drive connected directly onto my Mac via Thunderbolt 3 whilst I edit a lot of 4K videos almost without any lag. Unfortunately, we all know by now what happened to the company and it's gone down. I need a replacement and what I understand is that the Synology has the capability of being connected directly unto the Mac via a Thunderbolt 3 to ethernet adapter. Do I need any other additional add-ons and will this work as well?
Is there really no way to change from ext4 to btrfs? What about a full hyperbackup + config backup done on ext4, reformatting discs to btrfs and applying the backups? Will I still have to setup stuff anew?
Thank you so much for all your videos - this really helps! I'm using a Drobo and moving everything over to Synology. I'm hoping to use a 10gb ethernet adapter to be able to backup my photo shoot libraries from commercial shoots to this archive for long term storage. They can be pretty big with TIF files and raw files. So I use a local copy to work on while I backup to the archive and also a seperate External portable drive for each year of working. Along with this - I use Backblaze to have an offsite version that always backsup while I'm sleeping. I'm new to NAS and wondering if it's possible to backup to BackBlaze using this? Wondering what you would recommend. Thank you! x
Most people tend to over spec the capacity of their NAS, I'm talking about the home office and personal use. There's a lot of unused capacity out there.
on the other hand if you buy a 12x12TB NAs and you think you now have (in RAID6) 10X12 TB you are wrong again. You "only" have 10x10,91 TB. If you have a NAS Box that can not support a Volume >108TB you have another problem meaning you have about 1,x TB that you can use for a 2nd Volume
Hey! Thank you for the video! It clarified many of the questions I had. I have a small question: If I buy a 4-bay NAS and configure it with 2 HDD as Raid 1, how easy is it to add the 2 other disks later to turn it into a Raid 10? Does it require restarting everything or is it more straightforward? Thanks!
I don't know what you mean by RAID 1 to RAID 10 (don't think this is a thing). But if you are looking to just expand your volume it is pretty straight forward. When you insert the New Drives the system will detect that a unformatted drive has been connected and provide you a few options. I would Recommend going to *Storage Manager > Storage > Global Settings* and turning on *"Run RAID resync faster"* and then formatting the new Drive and/or adding it to your RAID/volume configuration.
My first NAS was a 2-bay Asustor. I outgrew it pretty quickly and I’m looking into buying another one, like 6 or 4 bay and use my old as a backup. Should I go for another Asustor (like lockerstor gen2) or switch to Synology? I’m a bit scared of Asustors recent ransomeware attacks =/
@@Spartan_767the only strong desire not to "synology"., although I like 224+. Now still using a very slow wd ex2 for 9 years. Just slotted in toshiba n300 8tb, jbod with other wd red 4tb original Al hdd.
One thing about ports. Use reverse proxy if you know how to. As far as port forwarding goes (short of using only VPN), it is the smallest opening possible, and only one port is needed (e.g https).
i guess you should read about DAS and NAS before you make a decission you will regret later. Personally i would always prefer NAS even if ity slower. I know there are 2.5 or 10GB solutions but if you "working pc" does not support neiter 2,5 nor 10GB than you are stuck with 1GB.
Hi. I just recently bought a Synology nas. And I have a problem with the network, I can't connect to things like, idrive backup and my printer, When I write a password and a username it says that the username does not exist end Synology assistant does not recognize the nas, but SMB working good. What could be the problem?
1 of 2 things. 1) the synology is plugged directly into your computer, not into a network switch 2) there is a network problem. The username issue does not make since if you are able to hit the Main NAS DSM
How much space does the btrfs snapshots take up? I have my NAS ready for this setup, but have not activated it, because I don't know how much space or will eat up.
Having real issues since moving customers from DSM 6 to DSM 7. Mac users who always worked from the NAS are now seeing multiple crashes when creating PDFs from InDesign. Upgraded 2 out of 12 customers, and 2 out of 12 have this issue.
@@SpaceRexWill All the users on DSM 6 use AFP but are on DS 218j, so they are not very powerful. Moved 2 centres to DS420+ on DSM 7, still on AFP and the issue started. Moved them to SMB as recommended by Synology support, and the issues are still there. Added 2 x 512 Gb SSD sticks as a cache but still no improvement. A lot of talk on the internet about an SMB cache issue.
I have the ReadyNas, Buffalo and lately tried the Synology. My goal is just to store movies and pictures in the server and I can access them in all my TVs, PCs, phones and tablet. I also like to download these files when I am travelling. The ReadyNas is the easiest on to setup for that. The buffalo takes more time to setup. The Synology seems like the most powerful of all but is difficult to set up and after loading 2.4T of files in to a 16TB NAS, it started to go in and out. Do not know the reason, might be indexing. Trying to use Kodi to access the server ends up in failure. A firestick + Kodi works much better for older TVs. Their support is very light also. After a week, finally gave up and return the system. I have seen many of your very good tutorials but there is no way to control the unstable TV media server access (File access from PC is OK).
I have tons of movies and my harddrives and external are getting full, would it be nice to buy a NAS to store my movies and other files? Just wondering. 🤔
How does the iscsi work on this? I am considering the 2 bay to just use it for some home labs via virtual box/centos and then hoping to configure this using the isci feature or even SAN to set up a small 2 node cluster and maybe host a small website internally on my lan. Anyone have any experience or comments/feedback for another cheap solution if this is not possible? GREAT video BTW ty for this
@@SpaceRexWill have you tried something similar? I want to tie it to my desktop and via virtualbox have that storage available to the nodes. After I am done with my labs etc I may concider moving it to a media server, any issues with hd video across 1gb lan?
Good video. Nicely divided into chapters. I will get a Synology today. Not sure about RAID. I need a lot of space, calculated my need at ~14 TB or a bit more. Movies, series, music, game ISOs, ebooks, comics.
well, in my thinkng RAID is a must. I am even so "paranoid" that i use RAID 6 On a 12x12 you kinda loose 24T but 2 drives can die and your stuff is still not gone. Dont know how long it will take to rebuild a RAID 6 but i hope i dont have to find out
I am curious on your thoughts of using two 2-bay NAS units and sync these to provide two NAS network storage units (redundancy) and full backup capability. I have been using this setup and feel the chance of both 2-bay NAS units failing at the same time is low and, in this case, I have four synced hard drives from which to recover my data. I am not a data hoarder so over time I just increase the capacity of the hard drives if storage volume starts to become a problem. You make the point very well of reminding everyone that a NAS unit is not a "backup" but with this setup I believe it works better than a 4-bay NAS unit at a little more in price. Any thoughts?
I would have started with mistake number zero, the model of a certain NAS that comes in different flavours, like J series, Play and + series. Once you learn you bought the wrong NAS, you are already too late to return it.
Hello, im planning to use WD Red 4TB as file storage with Orico HDD Enclosure is that good idea can i use it like that or has to be specific enclosure ?
Regarding the Btrfs snapshots, is it possible to set up so standard users can browse their files in #snapshot (requiring them to have access to /homes) without seeing other users’ home / files?
Regarding Point 4: I only need a DAS, it's true, but there isn't a DAS with RAID big enough for what I need to store. I'm limited to 22TB dual bay, when I have an estimated 30TB to back-up. I wish that company that made grunty DAS had not gone bust. It's what the world really needs. C'est la vie.
I love your content! I'm still trying to solve the mystery, though. What does the beginning 2 seconds of audio mean? This one had an extra syllable of "fye"/phi at the beginning.
NAS is a great upgrade if you own so many external HDDs lying around and want to consolidate your files. Also with SHR you can get some form of redundancy. Just don't expose to the internet, disable default admin profile and you're good to go. Also get a UPS that can communicate to your NAS because rebuilding drives can take hours or even days.
What do you mean by 'dont expose to the internet' -- most people running a NAS want to be able to connect to it via the internet (access photos, docuements, etc). As long as you read the docs and only open ports specifically for NAS use you should be fine.
ya but what if they are not NAS-TYPE drives? like seagate 3TB barracuda or Tohisba x300 WD Blue 2TB , blacks, etc... I dont have any NAS type drives but have several drives laying around
And how can i stream my music when im driving my car without exposing my nas to the internet?
@@chrishalle1982 Look into installing tailscale on your synology. Sets up a VPN from single devices to your NAS. No ports required to be opened at the router
UPS ??
I love our Synology NAS! I never would have got it set up without your videos! Thanks for all the great content!
Thanks!
my recommended tip is do not rely on the raid you should back it up periodically onto a separate drive even if it’s just a single disc better to have redundant Data then rely on any single piece of equipment.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:40 🖥️ Consider buying a 4-bay NAS instead of a 2-bay NAS to have more storage space.
01:22 🔄 Set up SHR-1 RAID for redundancy and to retain data in case of drive failure.
03:17 🐧 Use Btrfs file system for more features and flexibility.
04:41 💻 Decide if you need a NAS (network attached storage) or a DAS (direct attached storage) based on your specific needs and speed requirements.
06:31 🔒 Be cautious when opening ports for port forwarding and avoid opening SMB port to the internet to prevent hacking attempts.
08:48 📸 Use Btrfs snapshots to easily revert to previous versions of files, and regularly backup important data on your NAS.
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Thanks for putting this video together. I am a 25 year veteran IT professional. I work with the MUCH bigger RAIDS.
But I am unfamiliar with these smaller newer devices. I just purchased (hasn't arrived yet) a 2 bay NAS to drop a pair of 18T's into for a media/movie server for the family. SO the kids can watch their favorites on one TV and other watch something else.
The Data is already backed up via other means and all I need for it to do is stream movies.
My plan is to do a RAID 0. I am investigating the best fie system to use. something with as little overhead and latency as possible as I wont be serving outside my LAN.
I'm in same boat. Just need space what I can access anywhere on my network that it's not going out side to the internet. Stupid phones are filling up fast. Backing them up only means putting them away where I can't access them. So NAS would be good option for easy access.
2 18TB in RAID0 ? You must have a lot of time putting that back together once 1 drive crashes and you loose everything
@@dummyload7803 It took me 2 weeks to put it there to begin with.
I do not regret it either...The unit has been rock solid. AND I have loved using some of the other features... Like the VPN Server & Synology Drive Client.
But I get your point... I will probably be looking to upgrade to a 4-6 bay next year.
Thank you for this tutorial. I just purchased a NAS and I am preparing to set it up.
there's a good back-up option that didn't occur to me after buying and setting up my NAS - have a big Ol' HDD enclosure in another room and when you get big files, like photos or videos from a shoot, just go on up and connect your laptop to the HDDs and dump it over. Waaaaay faster than wifi, big files protected, and you have a copy on you main machine too. Of course depends what you want to do but if it's mainly back up and your files are big and only update occasionally. Do this.
go for 4 bay NAS.... now you tell me.! I enjoy all your video. Thanks from Seoul.
yeah, my 2bay is now full up. major regret.
@@liam4184 If you have a 2bay NAS example 2x 8TB, cant you just upgrade to two 10 or 16TB ect, ??
@@negueba235689 Yeah you can. Just a lot of money to double it up, and then you have two harddrive that are useless.
@@negueba235689of course they can, but not one of youtubers will tell you this. How can they make new videos for people to buy new equipment from sponsored links if they give the simpler solution: BUY BIGGER DRIVES! Of course the +2 bays give more options but for a simple storage for a normal user (4-10 TB) a two bay will get work done
One thing I would add about the DAS: Do your research. I have a WD MyBook DAS and its functionality is limited by the firmware of the DAS not playing nice with the BIOS/UEFI. If you have a DAS expanding your memory locally, it likely will be via USB cable into your PC of choice. Boot from USB is a thing on most systems, and on some like mine (Lenovo) even if you de-prioritize and disable USB boot (moving it to the bottom of the boot order under SATA, DVD, etc., it will still try to boot via USB. Not sure why, but it results in me having to disconnect the DAS USB in the back of my pc every time it starts up. So every time I boot up, restart, or even restart during an update, I have to make sure my WD DAS is disconnected. What's more, if I saved a restorable image on my WD DAS and wanted to connect it, wipe my PC, and restore from that point in time snapshot USING THE SOFTWARE THAT COMES WITH THE WD DAS TO DO SO, I cannot. Because wiping and restoring involves cycling the power with a connected DAS, it has gotten stuck in the process every single time and I have to cancel the restore. Best case scenario, I plug this into a different PC with a thumb drive or other removable storage as well, copy over the image I want to restore from and use that as the restore USB without the fancy Acronis or WD software. It's garbage.
Homie, I've watched so many of your videos since becoming interested in buying a NAS (and doing so within a few days). You know so much about these! It's like I stumbled upon a station on Interdimensional Cable, and I'm hooked!
i've owned a 5 bay Drobo for years and lately wanted to see if there was any firmware updates and notices that their company website is offline and was not too happy with them shutting shop. So i started investigating a suitable upgrade and came across your very informative RUclips videos, and made the switch to the DS723+ for me it's more than sufficient as a home user. I need it up an running and will go though your vault of videos to configure it. Keep up the good work.
Thanks. Yep, I think I'll get the four bay when I upgrade my 720+ in a couple of years time. Btw, for anyone who's interested, for backups I use the USB Copy package- not sure if it was you or someone else who recommended it. Simple and easy to copy the desired shared folders monthly to a portable USB drive and store off site.
To add to the RAID discussion, I messed that up on my first NAS. I saw the options and said to myself "I'm familiar with RAID-5" and chose that. This was a mistake. If I had chosen SHR1, I would have had the same initial storage, and would have had the ability to replace drives with higher capacity HD's later to increase my storage space. So ... I wasn't able to do that with RAID-5. That's now been rectified, but it was a major pain in the brass to fix it.
You're not the only one.
In the same boat funny enough!
You are a lucky man. Not every Synology supports SHR. Highend1621xs + does not have SHR .... no comment ........
@@mario-sz I use SHR-1 with a 1511+ and DX1510 (10 HDDs) for around 11 Years. Started with 2 TB Drives and over the Years going to 4 and now 8 TB Drives. Nice Feature. The next replacement of one 4 TB Drive for an 8 is already in sight. Takes a long Time (around 5 Days, but that's okay for me). Next step are 16 TB Drives. I don't know the Hardware Limit of the old 1511+. According to Synologys HDD List that would be 6 TB Drives but why not?
I have a 4 bay symbology NAS, running RAID 5.
Initially I set it up with 2 x 2TB, and 2 x 1TB domestic disks.
1 disk died, and I replaced them with 4 x 4TB NAS disks, and increased the storage space, during the upgrading process (DSM offers you the option as you replace the drives). It took me most of a day to actually swap out the old disks (shutdown 1 disk, remove, swap, repair volume, wait, rinse, lather, repeat)
Thanks!
Thank you!
The most important thing i'm taking from this video, is the simple fact i don't need a NAS, i need a DAS, and i was not aware these even existed.
Large storage is so cheap, my personal opinion is that a two-bay NAS is fine for most home users. With a two-drive NAS using RAID 1 for data redundancy, you can have 1, 2, 3, 5, 10, 16 or even 20 TB of storage space. I have been storing data to my NAS for 15 years, including a few videos, about 150 ripped CDs, and document backup from multiple computers. Still, I am using less than 0.3 TB (300 GB) of storage space. Also, Synology recommends using the BTRFS file system, which seems good for RAID 1, but even the BTRFS developers recommend against using it for RAID 5 or RAID 6.
Also, even though I am using RAID 1 on my NAS, I still back it up to a DAS. I prefer doing this in lieu of doing tripple redundancy on the NAS itself (which would require a NAS with more than two bays). That way, if the NAS fails, I can plug the DAS into a computer and quickly access the data.
i was wondering about the life expectancy of my synology nas, are you saying you've had the same nas for 15 years?
@@christophercoronado9551 2. The first one, a two-bay, was still working when I replaced it a few years ago, but I wanted a faster processor.
@@terryforsythe8083 what's 2? i have a 718+ and i'm running low on disk space. was thinking about getting bigger hard drives, but then got curious about the nas life expectancy and if i should just hold out for a nas with more bays. i've had mine for 3yrs
@@christophercoronado9551 2 means I have bought two Synologys. I am on my second one. The first one was still working when I replaced it. It was just slow by modern standards.
Another one to add (only because I made this mistake)...Purchasing HDD that are incompatible with NAS. I bought the Synology DS224+ and also the WD 20TB Red (two pack). Only to find out afterwards that the drives are incompatible. Yuck. Big mistake.
Really good points, especially the one about security and port-forwarding 👍
Thanks!
Thank you!
I got a 2 bay 4 years ago, now wishing I had gotten a 4 bay. I’ll probably build one when it comes time. Just bumped it up to 18tb disks for more storage space.
You got me, rethinking whether I need a NAS for my small home music studio, where it will essentially just be me at one Does the NAS have a big advantage over DAS if I want to add a couple surveillance cameras through my ethernet switch?
Another great video. You have the ability to explain this complex topic very easy. Congratulations !!!
There are not many tech enthusiasts who can explain things plain and simple to masses. You can and it’s awesome. I watched several of your videos and understood everything. Thank you, you’re a lifesaver 👏
It is a very good practice to turn on Geo IP on the firewall and block entries from all countries except your own;) DS1621xs+ does not have SHR .... no comment ........
None of the XS units have SHR because of performance issues. SHR can give you non uniform performance with mixed drive sizes, and synology assumes XS users want max performance at all times
Cautionary tale: I opened the VPN port, and quickly had some brute force attacks. I ended up setting up the firewall to block everything except the site where the other synology is connecting to the VPN from. It's not worth the stress and potential of being hacked to leave it open.
If your passwords are strong and you have auto block then brute force is all but impossible
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Thanks for the basics!
totally agree.. 2-bay NAS was the biggest mistake
i recommend 5+ bay even when you don't use it.
ssds become cheaper and cheaper and you'll need the bays
I was curious about what a NAS was and I looked up one video and now you're all over my youtube home page. This is bad.. I'm gonna watch these videos and eventually break down and buy a NAS. I know it.
Fantastic video (coming from a tech enthusiast that worked as a Security Engineer)
Thx for this video
Please lt me know this detail:
I working alone with my foto-video, but need a saceure backup for all my files.
When I put there two hdd in RAID1, with the SHR and BTRFS systsem file - what when one of the disk will failing? - Can I take the secound one out of the NAS and have acces to it in normal windows PC (all the drive in PC are NTFS system file) and what after this fail - buy a new drive and put it together to the NAS with the secound RAID1 copy - this will make a check and copy all files so they will be synchronized?
It might be a little late but I hope this helps: when you have 2 identical drives and use them in RAID 1 or SHR-1 (which are different but with 2 drives only it’s basically the same) and one drive fails, you can simply continue using your NAS. All the features will work just like before.
The next best option you have is to get a replacement drive and exchange that with the broken one in the NAS.
If for some reason you want to use the working HDD in your windows pc, connecting that via SATA will not simply work. Even if it is unencrypted, you would have to use some programs to get BTRFS readable on your machine. But as mentioned above, there is no need to do that.
If you really want a NAS, additionally or instead of using RAID you should still have at least one more copy of all the contents of your NAS somewhere else.
@@jayzn1931 thx, everything is clear 👍👌
I sort of fall into the first category, because when I bought my NAS 12 months ago, I got a 2 bay Synology NAS DS220J. Although I have not used the space as I have only used close to a 1TB of the 4 available. But subsequently I have started digitising my DVD/ Blu ray movies, and TV series to stream them. So Now I am thinking maybe of eventually upgrading the NAS. I have more or less closed the NAS down so I can only access it through my Home network, not from the wider world.
"Port-forwarding is not easy" - I've got to disagree there fully. The principe of port-forwarding is very easy to explain, show and teach to someone who knows zero about networking, routers and ports. Some bad software design can make it appear difficult for sure, but I think you're underserving people by telling them its not easy. It is easy to understand, learn and do regardless of a user's technical experience. "Do you need a NAS?" though is a very good question that most should ask themselves.
It's easy if you happen to have the right conditions. Try port forwarding when your ISP uses CGNAT and you have no real IPv4 address. So far I have seen no solution to this other than buying a static IP.
@@roytreves3998 You can use a VPN to provide a public IP. Example: my FW has an OpenVPN server/client connection to a Linode instance to get around the CGNAT issue.
You could also use something like a Cloudflare Argo tunnel, zero tier networking, or use a VPN service that has a dedicated IP / port option.
Note your existing router must be capable of supporting these features or you will need to evaluate a replacement.
@@SgtKilgore406 Thank you very much for the informative reply!
Fortunately we were able to solve the issue simply by asking our ISP to remove the NAT and give us a real dynamic IP. Unbelievably enough, they actually did. I guess because most customers don't really care about CGNAT, it doesn't hurt them to give out a few real addresses for those who actually need them.
Hopefully this also helps anyone else who is encountering this issue. It never hurts to try.
@@roytreves3998 I use Starlink as my primary and a local DSL as a fallback connection. Starlink cannot supply me a public IP unless I purchase the business plan. The Linode instance solves that.
I have a dedicated public IP with the local DSL provider but the down/up speeds limit its usefullness. They are rolling out fiber though and with luck will have FTTH in a year or two.
Having Starlink has dramatically alleviated the need for fast internet from the local ISP so I don't mind waiting.
@@SgtKilgore406 We are also very eager to get fiber. So far mostly buildings are receiving them and we just have to wait. It sucks because we can see the fiber cables less than 20 meters from our house but they refuse to connect us at the moment.
I'm wondering what kind of speeds are you getting with Starlink? Also how reliable is it? We don't have it here yet but it should arrive in the next year or two. Although hopefully we get fiber by then.
A Raid 1 setup for a 2bay nas is correct.
I have upgraded my 2 bay nas from 4TB to 12TB. Now as the end of life of this nas appears I am looking for a 4 bay nas that and raid 6.
Unfortunately, with my current NAS, the raid setting was lost twice. Which took ages to rebuilt.
My plan is to get 2 NAS drives, set them up in 2 different countries in my homes, and use Synology Drive Sync. I guess for that I"ll be fine with 2 bay drives (Synology 723+). If you have better recommendations, I'm happy for that.
I love your honesty and clarity in the message. THANK YOu
Good point that NAS is not for a single person most of the time. Or if you are not sharing with family just a good external HDD might be good.
When I started out a year ago, I bought the DS220j and set it up with EXT4... no BTRFS as an option, had it about a week and the DS220+ went on sale so I bought that and returned the 220j. I wish now that there was an easy way to convert it to get the extra benefits.
do you really need them then ? Just asking
Very good points, but a NAS is many times more than just a big, shared file system. Docker, VMs, and SCSI devices open a whole new world!
Really is!
Docker rocks. You're absolutely correct.
My PC motherboard comes with raid. How reliable to use? Softrware Raid?
I have disabled my default admin and guest account. I already knew I'll be using btrfs file system since I use this also on my Linux PC and knew the benefits. I have also enabled 2fa for better security.
Recently, I have configured my hardware firewall in a way that unless I'm using a VPN (with a specific ip address I configured before hand), I won't be able to connect to my NAS. My NAS only have one port open to the Internet but if anyone tries to connect to it without the VPN I specified, it will not even respond and would appear to be offline (not closed) as to trick the other that it doesn't even exist. 😎
Thank you, this was helpful. I'm new to NAS and considering a 4 bay Synology (DS920+). I already have two 4 bay DAS boxes for backup.
Don’t forget to set a static IP I do mine thru lansetup in the router . Usually this is never mentioned .
Again, very helpful!!
Im ok with a 2 bay nas the synology ones support up to 108 tb. I have 2 20 tb harddrives installed with shr and btrfs. I can switch to a higher drive if needed. Maybe i do when 100 tb hdds get cheaper. I use my nas with my family for audiostation chat photos drive and office and we use 2 tb at the moment so its enough.
well, even if 100TB drives ... if they will ever exist anyway ... becomes quite cheap i would not build a 2bay nas with 2 100TB drives. I would not even build a 4bay withthem. As of this writing i guess the biggest are 20TB and even that gives me the creeps. When you learn how these drives manage to store all these bits you may get a little nervous yourself. You can not put so many disks in that 3.5´ housing
That was a great roundup; always enjoyed and appreciated. A topic for a future video perhaps - opening ports on a NAS vs opening ports on a router and best practices. I still find the whole thing a bit confusing but fortunately, I don't need internet access to my home network.
And a question : I would like to backup my Synology NAS to my QNAP NAS using Rsync. IIRC, that uses SSH which requires a port to be opened. Does that create much, if any, risk to a home network not connected to the internet ? ( The alternative, which I currently do, is to use an old PC with FreeFileSync backup/sync software to act as a backup agent between the NAS's. It's free and easy but is one more machine on the network. )
I think LAN side connection should be pretty safe, because LAN side hacks would require a backdoor or hard access to your network if you don't open any port to WAN. Use a non administrative user to do the connection. Or use other backup solution like Syncthing.
@@kekesed97 Thanks for your thoughts. I'll create a separate user for the Rsync / SSH.
@@kekesed97 backdoor is your phone and any smart device connected to your network(ip-cam, etc).
It's much more secure to set up a VPN server on your network to remotely access your NAS instead of using port forwarding. Something like Wireguard VPN on a raspberry pi is way more secure.
Easily the best synology channel on youtube.
Thanks man!
my NAS just get attacked by Ransomware, about a month ago, but lucky me the virus just encrypted 2 from 8 shared folder and not the Critical folder one... bit i want to know what kind of backup more easy to setup and also secure to this kind of virus..
So there are 2 places I have ever seen a synology get ransomeward :
1) they had the SMB port open to the internet (big no)
2) they had a computer connected to the NAS via SMB get infected, which then cryptoed the NAS
Thanks for the point by point for us nubies. .
Regarding Point 4, shouldn't you have mentioned that you can get NAS with 10gbps or faster ports?
Asking because I don't understand otherwise :)
This was meant for people understanding who are just starting out with a low cost system
@@SpaceRexWill Thank you for clarifying :)))
Very informative, thank you!
Isn't RAID1 is the safest way to backup your data in a 2 disc setup?
So the thing about RAID is, it’s just a mirror, not a backup. If you accidentally delete all of your files, they are deleted off both drives at the exact same time, same thing with a hard crash or something like that.
A backup should be an independent action
Hey, just a question, I bought a 5-bay NAS. I just want to start with 1 16tb hdd. Can i change from basic to RAID later on when i buy more HDD
May I ask how would synology work if i migrate my HDDs there I have like 5 HDDs whit capacities from 4 to 8TB,...
So I own several drives already, used in video production to dump our cards on.... can I just use my own drives?
If we back up a back up, does that make it a front up or back down? If a 4 bay nas dies, does it take the drives down with it or do you mean back up so in case of fire or something like that?
Yea, I may need to re-evaluate considering more than just having 1 drive for a backup in case of a failure. I may decide to go to a 2 drive Raid. Thanks for the info.
I would instead look at backing up to an external hard drive! That way if the file system gets corrupted you will still have a backup
I was planning on RAID 1. I bought the appropriate sized drives knowing I’m getting half and a backup. How does SHR differ from RAID 1?
If you have only 2 drives SHR IS RAID1
why not open sftp?
yes, but, you will get tons (well, a lot) of msgs saying that someone is trying to enter o that port thinking its just a SSH Port. Opening ports is always a pain because some moron or some softwarescanners try to invade your nas
I'm completely new to this and all of the videos that I am finding seem to be in a super technical language.
Primarily i want to manage my blu-ray and DVD collection .
Can someone recommend some videos on this subject in English?
If you use basic instead of raid0 or jbod do you need multiple storage pools?
Have a WD my cloud ex2 mite upgrade to a synology 4 bay nas soon.
Gosh I am lost on which way to go NAS or DAS . I just want to rip my TV shows and stream through PLEX. My old external does not cut it anymore.
Backup is ABSOLUTELY ABSOLUTELY ABSOLUTELY necessary. I had a drive fail on my 4 bay hybrid raid system a couple of weeks ago. When I replaced the drive the whole volume crashed. The good news is that I'd invested in a second nas which I keep offsite. All it took was to restore from hyperbackup and a couple of days for the data to sync and not one mb of data was lost. (I had about 150000 photos) If I'd neglected the backup there would have been tears or at the very least weeks of work to rebuild everything
That's pretty sad to hear that a basic RAID wasn't able to be recovered. What is the point of running a RAID at all? Seems like wasted hard drive space when you can just use 2 NAS' and recover using your backup. Are these things RAID's known to fail like that often?
@@andrewa3216 it's not common but it can, and does happen. A lot of people think that raid is perfect but as with any technology things can and do go wrong, so it's best to be prepared
@Washing Up Liquid Raid is not a full backup solution. It will certainly reduce the likelihood of you losing data giving you some redundancy, but the raid still needs to be backed up, preferably off site. As a minimum backup your raid onto an external harddrive which you store offsite. The second option is to backup your RAID to the cloud or thirdly if the cloud becomes prohibitively expensive because you have so much data (as in my case), backup to a second raid system (again offsite preferably). Good luck with it.
Thank you. Very helpful and honest.
Great video, to the point.
Hi Will, i have recently discovered your channel as i research the topic of purchasing my first nas proper. well some time back, i have owned a single drive buffalo linkstation, but i now want to step up to the big league. your content and your videos are proving to be a very valuable resource packed with great tips and advice. in a few of your videos (ones i have watched) you have made reference to having a mariadb instance available in your homelab. a couple of my docker containers make use of their own database instances and i would love to see you make a video on how your are leveraging mariadb in your own homelab setup (does it/will it run on a synology ?). cheers for the content, time now to watch the linked video on raid options
Thanks for the great info.
Hi, I've been using the Drobo 5D3 for a long time, I like the workflow and speed of the drive connected directly onto my Mac via Thunderbolt 3 whilst I edit a lot of 4K videos almost without any lag. Unfortunately, we all know by now what happened to the company and it's gone down. I need a replacement and what I understand is that the Synology has the capability of being connected directly unto the Mac via a Thunderbolt 3 to ethernet adapter. Do I need any other additional add-ons and will this work as well?
Is there really no way to change from ext4 to btrfs?
What about a full hyperbackup + config backup done on ext4, reformatting discs to btrfs and applying the backups? Will I still have to setup stuff anew?
Yes so that is the process!
There are a couple of things that hyperbackup does not fully restore, but for standard settings you should be fine!
Thank you so much for all your videos - this really helps!
I'm using a Drobo and moving everything over to Synology.
I'm hoping to use a 10gb ethernet adapter to be able to backup my photo shoot libraries from commercial shoots to this archive for long term storage. They can be pretty big with TIF files and raw files. So I use a local copy to work on while I backup to the archive and also a seperate External portable drive for each year of working.
Along with this - I use Backblaze to have an offsite version that always backsup while I'm sleeping.
I'm new to NAS and wondering if it's possible to backup to BackBlaze using this?
Wondering what you would recommend.
Thank you! x
Great summary. Best part the video is at 5:37.
Most people tend to over spec the capacity of their NAS, I'm talking about the home office and personal use. There's a lot of unused capacity out there.
on the other hand if you buy a 12x12TB NAs and you think you now have (in RAID6) 10X12 TB you are wrong again. You "only" have 10x10,91 TB. If you have a NAS Box that can not support a Volume >108TB you have another problem meaning you have about 1,x TB that you can use for a 2nd Volume
Why is ext4 good for security camera?
Hey! Thank you for the video! It clarified many of the questions I had.
I have a small question: If I buy a 4-bay NAS and configure it with 2 HDD as Raid 1, how easy is it to add the 2 other disks later to turn it into a Raid 10? Does it require restarting everything or is it more straightforward?
Thanks!
I don't know what you mean by RAID 1 to RAID 10 (don't think this is a thing). But if you are looking to just expand your volume it is pretty straight forward. When you insert the New Drives the system will detect that a unformatted drive has been connected and provide you a few options. I would Recommend going to *Storage Manager > Storage > Global Settings* and turning on *"Run RAID resync faster"* and then formatting the new Drive and/or adding it to your RAID/volume configuration.
Great Will thanks a lot as usual
Any 20-40 tb Das recommendations pls ?
Really hard to find a good one. Right now promise pegasus makes the best
@@SpaceRexWill Hey, really thanks for a quick response
My first NAS was a 2-bay Asustor. I outgrew it pretty quickly and I’m looking into buying another one, like 6 or 4 bay and use my old as a backup. Should I go for another Asustor (like lockerstor gen2) or switch to Synology? I’m a bit scared of Asustors recent ransomeware attacks =/
If it were me I would 100% look at synology
Go Syn
@SpaceRex I heard comments about synology not supporting 3rd party drives us this true
@@Spartan_767the only strong desire not to "synology"., although I like 224+. Now still using a very slow wd ex2 for 9 years. Just slotted in toshiba n300 8tb, jbod with other wd red 4tb original Al hdd.
One thing about ports. Use reverse proxy if you know how to. As far as port forwarding goes (short of using only VPN), it is the smallest opening possible, and only one port is needed (e.g https).
What if I just wanted to combine 5 hard drives ranging 8 to 16 tb per drive ontonone unit? DAS would be my way to go?
i guess you should read about DAS and NAS before you make a decission you will regret later. Personally i would always prefer NAS even if ity slower. I know there are 2.5 or 10GB solutions but if you "working pc" does not support neiter 2,5 nor 10GB than you are stuck with 1GB.
Hi. I just recently bought a Synology nas. And I have a problem with the network, I can't connect to things like, idrive backup and my printer, When I write a password and a username it says that the username does not exist end Synology assistant does not recognize the nas, but SMB working good. What could be the problem?
1 of 2 things.
1) the synology is plugged directly into your computer, not into a network switch
2) there is a network problem.
The username issue does not make since if you are able to hit the Main NAS DSM
How much space does the btrfs snapshots take up? I have my NAS ready for this setup, but have not activated it, because I don't know how much space or will eat up.
Will it be powerfull enough to Run a Home Asisstant and Plex server?
depends on the NAS
With smb can't you just enable auto block after a certain amount of tries
Having real issues since moving customers from DSM 6 to DSM 7. Mac users who always worked from the NAS are now seeing multiple crashes when creating PDFs from InDesign. Upgraded 2 out of 12 customers, and 2 out of 12 have this issue.
Good to know. I have not seen this. Any chance it was moving from AFP to SMB?
@@SpaceRexWill All the users on DSM 6 use AFP but are on DS 218j, so they are not very powerful. Moved 2 centres to DS420+ on DSM 7, still on AFP and the issue started. Moved them to SMB as recommended by Synology support, and the issues are still there. Added 2 x 512 Gb SSD sticks as a cache but still no improvement. A lot of talk on the internet about an SMB cache issue.
Some great info Will, that cable behind your TV is really making my OCD kick in
I have the ReadyNas, Buffalo and lately tried the Synology. My goal is just to store movies and pictures in the server and I can access them in all my TVs, PCs, phones and tablet. I also like to download these files when I am travelling. The ReadyNas is the easiest on to setup for that. The buffalo takes more time to setup. The Synology seems like the most powerful of all but is difficult to set up and after loading 2.4T of files in to a 16TB NAS, it started to go in and out. Do not know the reason, might be indexing. Trying to use Kodi to access the server ends up in failure. A firestick + Kodi works much better for older TVs. Their support is very light also. After a week, finally gave up and return the system. I have seen many of your very good tutorials but there is no way to control the unstable TV media server access (File access from PC is OK).
I have tons of movies and my harddrives and external are getting full, would it be nice to buy a NAS to store my movies and other files? Just wondering. 🤔
It’s a great use case for one.
I would get one, but to start only fill half the bays, that way as you need more space you can buy more drives
Point 1 , so right! I came to that really quick lol. 🙏
Hey @spacerex do you keep your NAS turned on 100% of the time? How do you maximise the health of your hard drives?
I do! The drives are designed to run 24/7 for years!
How does the iscsi work on this? I am considering the 2 bay to just use it for some home labs via virtual box/centos and then hoping to configure this using the isci feature or even SAN to set up a small 2 node cluster and maybe host a small website internally on my lan. Anyone have any experience or comments/feedback for another cheap solution if this is not possible? GREAT video BTW ty for this
Iscsi works great!
@@SpaceRexWill have you tried something similar? I want to tie it to my desktop and via virtualbox have that storage available to the nodes. After I am done with my labs etc I may concider moving it to a media server, any issues with hd video across 1gb lan?
Good video. Nicely divided into chapters. I will get a Synology today. Not sure about RAID. I need a lot of space, calculated my need at ~14 TB or a bit more. Movies, series, music, game ISOs, ebooks, comics.
well, in my thinkng RAID is a must. I am even so "paranoid" that i use RAID 6
On a 12x12 you kinda loose 24T but 2 drives can die and your stuff is still not gone. Dont know how long it will take to rebuild a RAID 6 but i hope i dont have to find out
How much better is ext4 for Surveillance Station? I setup mine with Btrfs and I'm solely using it as a NVR.
Only marginally. I would only use this if you have ~10+ cameras
Ok i set it up as ext4 and i use it now for years witout problems🤔🤷🏻♂️
I am curious on your thoughts of using two 2-bay NAS units and sync these to provide two NAS network storage units (redundancy) and full backup capability. I have been using this setup and feel the chance of both 2-bay NAS units failing at the same time is low and, in this case, I have four synced hard drives from which to recover my data. I am not a data hoarder so over time I just increase the capacity of the hard drives if storage volume starts to become a problem. You make the point very well of reminding everyone that a NAS unit is not a "backup" but with this setup I believe it works better than a 4-bay NAS unit at a little more in price. Any thoughts?
I would have started with mistake number zero, the model of a certain NAS that comes in different flavours, like J series, Play and + series. Once you learn you bought the wrong NAS, you are already too late to return it.
Hello, im planning to use WD Red 4TB as file storage with Orico HDD Enclosure is that good idea can i use it like that or has to be specific enclosure ?
you may want to wath the video about WD drives i guess it was the same guy who brought you this video
Regarding the Btrfs snapshots, is it possible to set up so standard users can browse their files in #snapshot (requiring them to have access to /homes) without seeing other users’ home / files?
You cannot
Regarding Point 4: I only need a DAS, it's true, but there isn't a DAS with RAID big enough for what I need to store. I'm limited to 22TB dual bay, when I have an estimated 30TB to back-up. I wish that company that made grunty DAS had not gone bust. It's what the world really needs. C'est la vie.
I love your content! I'm still trying to solve the mystery, though. What does the beginning 2 seconds of audio mean? This one had an extra syllable of "fye"/phi at the beginning.
😆 "Alright, how's it going ???" I couldn't catch the last bit.