Hi Abbey! Understanding the mechanisms of reactive oxygen species will clear up a lot of the confusion! It is a nuanced topic, but understanding the chemistry will go a long way. To explain this as best as I can in a comment, hypochlorous acid and many other antiseptics like benzoyl peroxide utilize reactive oxygen species to kill pathogens like bacteria, fungi, and viruses by physically/chemically breaking their cell walls. Our bodies utilize this same thing (even hypochlorous acid specifically!) to perform all sorts of functions and it is perfectly normal. However, free radicals inherently cause damage to good cells and their dna. We get extra free radical exposure from bad things like smoking, pollution, and uv radiation, which is why there is a market for antioxidants. Antioxidants basically counter the work of free radicals. They provide extra electrons for the reactive oxygen species to take up, thus neutralizing their reactivity. Antioxidants are great for preventing some of the damage caused by free radicals, but it’s important to understand that there is a balance. It’s not that free radicals are 100% bad and you need as much antioxidants as you can possibly dose yourself with because free radicals are a necessary part of the body’s functioning. Harnessing a very pointed topical use for free radicals, like in the use of benzoyl peroxide or hypochlorous acid, is super effective. Bacteria cannot develop resistance to their cell walls breaking down via oxidization like they can with antibiotics. These meds are incredibly good at their job and worth using if you have acne. It’s just that using an antioxidant at the same time will cancel both products out since one works via oxidization and the other works to prevent said oxidization. Understanding how these chemicals actually do the work they do will be super helpful in navigating the skincare market. Plus I trust that you will do your due diligence in researching the science and translating that to your audience of beauty consumers! I love your videos and I hope this helps! To start your research, I highly recommend reading Harvard Medical School’s article called “Understanding Antioxidants” from 2019, which is available online. It discuses the use of antioxidants in food/ supplements, but does an excellent job explaining the chemistry of free radicals and antioxidants in general. Additionally, Labmuffin beauty science is a chemistry PhD who specializes in beauty industry sciences. She has videos and articles on her website that do an excellent job of communicating the science of skincare in a minimally jargony/confusing way. 💖
@@Princess-rb9ydit’s probably safe, but neither of them will be able to work if you use them together. They cancel each other out. Pick one or the other to use at a time. If you have acne, the hypochlorous acid/ benzoyl peroxide will be more helpful. If you have hyperpigmentation/ anti-aging concerns, the antioxidants will be more helpful.
I was concerned about this too - thank you for clarifying. My bio-dad is a chemist and he's helped me pick out the best water filters because he actually understands how they work lol. They're big and chunky but they work so much better than the tiny ones that people insert. He also told me never to use aluminum products (like in American deodorant) and warned me about drug company-sponsored studies vs studies in the EU. I've begun researching on my own and I learned that while the EU bans over 1300 beauty product ingredients, the US FDA only bans 13. So I trust overseas beauty and scientists.
@@ImnotassweetasIusedtobecan you share what water filter you picked out? I just came on here to find recs and its so confusing because some commenters say they only remove chlorine. I have hard water and mineral build up 😢 but don’t have ability to soften the water tank because I rent.
@@ImnotassweetasIusedtobewould also love to know what filter was recommended. We are wanting to install one on our home and started looking but it’s so confusing
When you spray it, wait for your skin to be completely dry, then continue with the rest of your skin care routine. I've done this for several years successfully with very effective results.💓
I do enjoy that you mentioned that there’s not concrete proof of this phenomenon occurring in topical applications of these ingredients, and that this is mainly conjecture based on the studies done under differing circumstances. That’s so refreshing to hear, especially when you deal with constant fear mongering on social media over certain ingredients (Parabens, namely) that advise to NEVER use a product with certain ingredients because they’ll do horrible things to you. You bring nuance to a topic that could easily become blown out of proportion and taken somewhere unnecessarily dramatic.
Thank you for this information. It’s great that you used your “connections “ to help us decide how and when to use this product. Perhaps you can share with us on a video how you use this and the benefits you have seen by using this product. Thanks so much for all you do to keep us on track😊🌺😊.
I've been using this spray for years, I mostly use it to refresh my skin during summer, or after sweating. Armpits, back, face and for minor cuts. I even use it on my dog paws after a long walk at the park
I used this for years in wound care. It’s an old ingredient from WWI and basically a kissing cousin of bleach. Works great on infected wounds so I bet also dermatitis with bacterial or fungal components but I would never use it on healthy skin after seeing how it was used in wound care. Also, it’s CRAZY cheap in the wound care world. It’s weird how the cosmetic industry can get away with charging so much for such an old ingredient
@@littleboots9800 dakins is the wound care equivalent and is hypochlorous a code. Prontosan is a different chemical. I like both though! For wound care. And I like the dakins/ SOS spray for dermatitis from wearing masks all day.
I use this morning and night but it’s my first step after cleansing and I let it dry down completely before using my antioxidant/tretinoin and my skin has never looked better I think it’s a matter of the skin still being damp with this product before layering that could cause an issue but I can only give my experience.
You're right. Once it's done its job it literally just results in water and salt when the oxidation reaction is over . Water evaporates so your skin is just dry with a tiny bit of salt in it and that won't effect your antioxidants.
I have been using the product for less than a week and I swear that my skin texture has smoothed, like the roughness from sebaceous filaments. The bumps and stuff and regular acne is still there but I'm crossing my fingers that this stuff does good for my skin.
I’ve been using the Briotech hypochlorous spray for years, let it dry with a fan, then apply my other products on top. I’ve never noticed a decrease in efficacy of my toners and serums, all of which have antioxidant properties… I also take what dermatologists say with a grain of salt so there’s that. In Korean beauty we trust 😅
You have helped make me feel better about myself. Knowing I can turn to you for an honest and genuine review or having more knowledge about what to buy for my own skin has transformed my life and me. You do such a fantastic thing here for people everywhere. It's when I noticed that I could lose that question mark. "? " , and be more confident due to the videos you make and the opinions you give to people. I am totally hooked on your channel and just wanted you to know you make a huge difference in my life. ❤❤❤
I heard another Derm say that as long as the antioxidant products have set and dried before applying the Hypochlorous spray it should no longer cancel each other out???
It doesn't have to stay in your skin for hours. It's a disinfectant that kills bacteria and viruses. It takes about 2 mins to do this. Spray it on your face as the first step wait about 5 mins then do your cleanser and skin care steps as normal. Then you can spray again after a few hours to disinfect.
With all respect to you and lovely Dr.Maxfield, it’s not the best choice of article and presentation. HOCl decreases power of proteins (mentioned enzymes and iron-containing hemoglobin in RBC). It’s far from applying topical antioxidants, especially of non-protein nature, on epidermis. The meaning is simple: HOCl is a typical oxidant. Mixing it with antioxidants gives zero desired effect.
Hi, have you done any videos on eyelash hair? Would love to hear your professional opinion as a trichologist! Or what ingredients in products. I know youve said coconut based oils work on hair. Wondering if that applies similarly to eyelashes
Another dermatologist I listened to yesterday...said you can use it before actives after it dries...which takes 30 seconds...can you find out which information is right tyvm
Hi Abbey!
Understanding the mechanisms of reactive oxygen species will clear up a lot of the confusion! It is a nuanced topic, but understanding the chemistry will go a long way.
To explain this as best as I can in a comment, hypochlorous acid and many other antiseptics like benzoyl peroxide utilize reactive oxygen species to kill pathogens like bacteria, fungi, and viruses by physically/chemically breaking their cell walls. Our bodies utilize this same thing (even hypochlorous acid specifically!) to perform all sorts of functions and it is perfectly normal. However, free radicals inherently cause damage to good cells and their dna. We get extra free radical exposure from bad things like smoking, pollution, and uv radiation, which is why there is a market for antioxidants.
Antioxidants basically counter the work of free radicals. They provide extra electrons for the reactive oxygen species to take up, thus neutralizing their reactivity.
Antioxidants are great for preventing some of the damage caused by free radicals, but it’s important to understand that there is a balance. It’s not that free radicals are 100% bad and you need as much antioxidants as you can possibly dose yourself with because free radicals are a necessary part of the body’s functioning. Harnessing a very pointed topical use for free radicals, like in the use of benzoyl peroxide or hypochlorous acid, is super effective. Bacteria cannot develop resistance to their cell walls breaking down via oxidization like they can with antibiotics. These meds are incredibly good at their job and worth using if you have acne. It’s just that using an antioxidant at the same time will cancel both products out since one works via oxidization and the other works to prevent said oxidization.
Understanding how these chemicals actually do the work they do will be super helpful in navigating the skincare market. Plus I trust that you will do your due diligence in researching the science and translating that to your audience of beauty consumers! I love your videos and I hope this helps!
To start your research, I highly recommend reading Harvard Medical School’s article called “Understanding Antioxidants” from 2019, which is available online. It discuses the use of antioxidants in food/ supplements, but does an excellent job explaining the chemistry of free radicals and antioxidants in general. Additionally, Labmuffin beauty science is a chemistry PhD who specializes in beauty industry sciences. She has videos and articles on her website that do an excellent job of communicating the science of skincare in a minimally jargony/confusing way.
💖
so is it safe to use Hypochlorous acid with antioxidant products or not?
@@Princess-rb9ydit’s probably safe, but neither of them will be able to work if you use them together. They cancel each other out.
Pick one or the other to use at a time. If you have acne, the hypochlorous acid/ benzoyl peroxide will be more helpful. If you have hyperpigmentation/ anti-aging concerns, the antioxidants will be more helpful.
I was concerned about this too - thank you for clarifying. My bio-dad is a chemist and he's helped me pick out the best water filters because he actually understands how they work lol. They're big and chunky but they work so much better than the tiny ones that people insert. He also told me never to use aluminum products (like in American deodorant) and warned me about drug company-sponsored studies vs studies in the EU. I've begun researching on my own and I learned that while the EU bans over 1300 beauty product ingredients, the US FDA only bans 13. So I trust overseas beauty and scientists.
@@ImnotassweetasIusedtobecan you share what water filter you picked out? I just came on here to find recs and its so confusing because some commenters say they only remove chlorine. I have hard water and mineral build up 😢 but don’t have ability to soften the water tank because I rent.
@@ImnotassweetasIusedtobewould also love to know what filter was recommended. We are wanting to install one on our home and started looking but it’s so confusing
When you spray it, wait for your skin to be completely dry, then continue with the rest of your skin care routine. I've done this for several years successfully with very effective results.💓
What results do you have? Less breakouts? Redness?
I do enjoy that you mentioned that there’s not concrete proof of this phenomenon occurring in topical applications of these ingredients, and that this is mainly conjecture based on the studies done under differing circumstances. That’s so refreshing to hear, especially when you deal with constant fear mongering on social media over certain ingredients (Parabens, namely) that advise to NEVER use a product with certain ingredients because they’ll do horrible things to you. You bring nuance to a topic that could easily become blown out of proportion and taken somewhere unnecessarily dramatic.
Thank you for this information. It’s great that you used your “connections “ to help us decide how and when to use this product.
Perhaps you can share with us on a video how you use this and the benefits you have seen by using this product.
Thanks so much for all you do to keep us on track😊🌺😊.
I've been using this spray for years, I mostly use it to refresh my skin during summer, or after sweating. Armpits, back, face and for minor cuts. I even use it on my dog paws after a long walk at the park
I used this for years in wound care. It’s an old ingredient from WWI and basically a kissing cousin of bleach. Works great on infected wounds so I bet also dermatitis with bacterial or fungal components but I would never use it on healthy skin after seeing how it was used in wound care. Also, it’s CRAZY cheap in the wound care world. It’s weird how the cosmetic industry can get away with charging so much for such an old ingredient
Oh this is prontosan?
@@littleboots9800 dakins is the wound care equivalent and is hypochlorous a code. Prontosan is a different chemical. I like both though! For wound care. And I like the dakins/ SOS spray for dermatitis from wearing masks all day.
What about on skin with rosacea?
@@nicolemoser7892 I don’t know the research on that specifically sorry!
@@nicolemoser7892Yes it’s great for rosacea as far as I’ve read. I use it daily.
I use this morning and night but it’s my first step after cleansing and I let it dry down completely before using my antioxidant/tretinoin and my skin has never looked better I think it’s a matter of the skin still being damp with this product before layering that could cause an issue but I can only give my experience.
This is what I’ve done for a long time as well. Before I had seen it specifically marketed in skin care. It’s been awesome.
You're right. Once it's done its job it literally just results in water and salt when the oxidation reaction is over . Water evaporates so your skin is just dry with a tiny bit of salt in it and that won't effect your antioxidants.
I have been using the product for less than a week and I swear that my skin texture has smoothed, like the roughness from sebaceous filaments. The bumps and stuff and regular acne is still there but I'm crossing my fingers that this stuff does good for my skin.
@@japaengliss1544 good luck! It should definitely cut down on the acne causing bacteria that’s what it did for me.
My derm just said it was fine once dried to continue with any skincare product.
I’ve been using the Briotech hypochlorous spray for years, let it dry with a fan, then apply my other products on top. I’ve never noticed a decrease in efficacy of my toners and serums, all of which have antioxidant properties… I also take what dermatologists say with a grain of salt so there’s that. In Korean beauty we trust 😅
Briotech is very good!
Another derm said this too
we love a well researched queen
I knew I could count on one of my subs to clarify this. Thx Abbey. 👊🌞
You have helped make me feel better about myself.
Knowing I can turn to you for an honest and genuine review or having more knowledge about what to buy for my own skin has transformed my life and me.
You do such a fantastic thing here for people everywhere.
It's when I noticed that I could lose that question mark. "? " , and be more confident due to the videos you make and the opinions you give to people. I am totally hooked on your channel and just wanted you to know you make a huge difference in my life. ❤❤❤
Spray after sweating to reduce acne and smell.
I heard another Derm say that as long as the antioxidant products have set and dried before applying the Hypochlorous spray it should no longer cancel each other out???
I’ve been using this for years, it’s GREAT for back-acne!!!
Thanks for sharing new knowledge!
IV never heard of this would love to know what it's ment to do and now how an when to use it properly ? I'm confused?
It's good for maskne and even normal acne
It doesn't have to stay in your skin for hours. It's a disinfectant that kills bacteria and viruses. It takes about 2 mins to do this. Spray it on your face as the first step wait about 5 mins then do your cleanser and skin care steps as normal. Then you can spray again after a few hours to disinfect.
I love it. I’m not sure why Tower 28 charges so much though, kind of frustrating.
I’m so interested in skincare ❤ love learning about it!!! I feel like I’m constantly learning/growing my knowledge from your content!!
Hi could I ask what you think About Odele?i was thinking about trying it .thank you so much❤😊
With all respect to you and lovely Dr.Maxfield, it’s not the best choice of article and presentation. HOCl decreases power of proteins (mentioned enzymes and iron-containing hemoglobin in RBC). It’s far from applying topical antioxidants, especially of non-protein nature, on epidermis. The meaning is simple: HOCl is a typical oxidant. Mixing it with antioxidants gives zero desired effect.
Pretty sure you can spray and let it dry then continue w your routine
Noo, I use this at the same time as vitamin c 😭 I'm gonna stop right away
As long as the hypochlorous acid mist is completely dried into the skin and absorbed….you’re completely safe to move on to vitamin c and antioxidants.
I use this as I'm working out. I don't use it while using other skim care
Thank youuuuuu
Just let it dry first before layering it up.
What about using it with copper peptides??? Please tell me
will this cancel out sunscreen?? like if i use this then use sunscreen right after?
Can you pleaseee recommend any affordable products for my dry and rough af hair
Wow, I'd never even heard of this before. Is it for very sensitive skin that has a flare-up or sth?
What is the name of this product?
So I can use this before my skincare routine or not?! Do I use it before toner or after?
You can use it as a toner.
Do you recommend using while dermaplaming or micro needling ?
So could we use this before vitamin c/ retenoids?
Hi can you recommend good shampoos for keratin treated hair
I use it for bug sprays
hypochlorous acid is basically an oxidant so yeah
What if you use it before you’re antioxidants or actives like a toner prior to applying you’re Vitamin C, Adelaide acid or retinol??
They will be cancelled out.
I don't any actives or antioxidants in my skincare.
Hi, have you done any videos on eyelash hair? Would love to hear your professional opinion as a trichologist! Or what ingredients in products. I know youve said coconut based oils work on hair. Wondering if that applies similarly to eyelashes
Another dermatologist I listened to yesterday...said you can use it before actives after it dries...which takes 30 seconds...can you find out which information is right tyvm
This is TRUE!
I just realised this is prontosan and I get this for free on the NHS. Noice.
What the heck is hypochlorous acid?!
It’s the active ingredient in bleach, its a great antiseptic and oxidizing agent which makes it great for acne treatment
Generally, I thought it's best throughout the day, no?
What is it? How it should help?
I have no idea what that ingredient is
It's prontosan.
i think it’s hilarious that you call him dr luke instead of dr maxfield 😅😅
A whole $11 cheaper 😆
Isn’t this a duh. It’s like to use to decrease bacteria
“Viral in Tik Tok” a great reason not to use it.
It actually works quite well.
@@threearrows2248 she’s not saying that it doesn’t work. She is saying that it can lessen the effects of your other products like retinols.
Dermatologists suggest it
I use neither on my skin I use a facewash a moisturiser and a sunscreen
Congratulations some of us have acne
Yeah I’m not telling you that it will get rid of acne I’m just not struggling with it jeez no need to get pressed about my skincare