Why NO ONE Plays: Rell | League of Legends
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2021
- Ordinarily for Why NO ONE Plays, I don't cover champions unless they have an extensive history and/or lifespan as it's too soon to tell if a new champion is popular or not. But I made an exception for this episode because Rell had a noticeably worse initial launch than any of her fellow contemporaries. So today's episode will be featuring Rell: The Iron Maiden!
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I've never understood why Riot chose to make Rell a support. Her entire lore is that she's a loner who doesn't trust other people and she was literally raised to kill Mordekaiser. Why she wasn't developed as a a top laner is beyond me.
Riot is genius because they put the person born to kill Morde in the opposite of the fucking map on the most polarising role.
Riot only cares about skins for money, they don’t fucking care about the game itself lorewise
Thing is, there is too many top laners, every top laner is played top(duh) but also everyone who doesn't fit thier role often ends up top, quinn was supposed to be an adc for example, when tank akali was op she was played top and so on. Imo best place to put her would be jungle, since her lore is all about hiding while getting stronger then emerging and beeing a badass. But there is shitloads of junglers as well. Riot needs to make a role rework honestly because top and jungle are like landfills of offmeta champions.
What about Thresh?
@@DemonLordGamingAC0 threshs whole thing is that he is viegos bitch that roams the isles to chain the living. As soon as viego died he started "living" his own life. So kinda fits he is bound to someone.
I started playing Rell the second she was released and I agree with everything that was said here. She's really good at what she does and I love her play style, but without coordination from your team, there's no way you're going to be effective.
She's like Rakan but worse in that matter, at least Rakan can escape.
And, well,
Your team has that 1.75s reaction time
I personally always thought she didn't feel satisfying.
She doesn't feel powerful, for me atleast, regardless if I had a 5 man W into R or use her laughable Q.
I am not saying she is weak, I am just saying *she feels like it* which makes her unfun to play.
@@food7479 I bought rell on release, played her for a weekm and that's exactly how I felt. I gave her another shot a couple months later and she's now one of my favorite champs to play!
I got m7 with her on release week one of my favorite supports but once I brought her to ranked I realized one thing. You NEEDs coms with your adc if you’re in mid/low elo, because
1. If your adc constantly pushes it because very hard to engage bc of your slide you most likely will end up under tower
2. You need to engage at the same time, if you go in and your adc is too late you run out of cc and cds and lose, if they engage to early, you w takes a long time to go off and your adc will be too low and the fight will most of the time be over. If you engage and you adc doesn’t trust you, you die. ( the amount of times I’ve gotten a 4/5 man ult and my yas or samira backed of is too much) lastly mobility hard counters you, and you know how much riot loves mobility. With Leona Ali naut, each have some sort of engage that you only go in if your can hit the person or click the person. With rell you can jump in and someone has flash you’re fucked.
As a Rell main the reason starts and ends with moving at 250 ms when you dismount. The other reasons in this video are correct too but nothing feels worse than your champion handicapping themselves.
Agreed. At least with Kled, you're handicapped because of gameplay. With Rell... You get to pick when you become a shittier Leona.
exactly. This is one big reason why i stopped playing Blitz. Slowing yourself feels so bad.
@@Multiroester At least Blitz brings the opponent to YOU. Not serving yourself up on a platter because your 2/8/1 Qiyana decided to go suck off the enemy Sett in a bush for the 9th time in a row, and your 12/2/8 Jungler and 10/4/4 Top Lane have delusions of grandure and think they can 2v5 the entire enemy team.
I heard 250 ms and I didn't need to hear anything else.
Exactly. The "Payoff" of that much of a slowdown (with even a cap so that you can not even go for move speed) is not big enough in my opinion.
For someone who’s suppose to be a strong, tanky, mage, and loner Rell heavily relies upon the common sense of her teammates.
I'm amazed that you managed to predict what her E would become with the rework, since it is now a movement boost to you and an ally
I want to see more power put into her passive.
Her Break the Mold passive makes her an anti-tank tank, that you pick when your team both needs a frontline and something to deal with the enemy teams frontline at the same time.
I want to see the %resist theft increase with level and her Q apply it to all targets instead of just the first one.
Even 1 of these buffs could break her. Don't forget that this ability is a flat armor and magic Pen for your whole team that aslo boosted your armor, magic resistance and damage.
@@gkarak1996 It's not flat, it's %.
Regardless, it's perfectly fine if she'd need to be nerfed in other ways to compensate something like this. I just want her anti-tank tank status to be emphasized.
@@Nuclearburrit0 believe it or not free armor/magic pen is OP
Idk if you played during the time but when they made exhaust shred 10 armor/MR it was better on assassins than ignite because free dmg while nerfing your opponents' dmg
@@darkjackl999 Balance is a numbers game. You cannot just declare the entire concept of resist pen as OP. Shifting power into Rell's passive is not inherently OP anymore than any other mechanic is.
She already has shred. I just want it to be more central to her kit.
I think Rell could be genuinely viable if they'd just give her ult the Poppy W treatment, and stop any dashes trying to leave it. Her kit relies on her being able to go in and lock down enemies, while soaking damage like a sponge. So if half the champions in the game could dodge her full combo with a single ability click, she's going to feel pretty awful.
Actually poppy treatment would be really good idea
That would be broken as hell her W doesn’t need any of that even if rell gets a stun or root I can still W through and land my knock up and stun once it’s going not a lot can actually stop her I just tank it and meow them down
Or make her ULT last 3 secs, or be bigger. Seriously, it feels SO UNDERWHELMING compared to Ults like maokai, braum or malph
this addition would make poppy's ult not unique anymore
Tbh I was very confused by her release. There was no introduction, no trailer, no event bound to her and battle queens event spotlight was stolen by Diana which is quite upsetting since i literally realized about Rell's existence only once I saw her in my game (I say this as Diana main).
At the same time I love her addition to the game. She's one of very few recent characters that have easy to understand abilities and doesn't feel stupidly powerful to drive me insane.
This is one of the reasons why I miss the animated log in screens lol used to have. I'd be so hyped when the new champ was on there like "Oh shit Rek'sai is out today!?!?!?"
She did have a trailer and a theme song to go with it. But she was overshadowed by the battle queens skins that looked better than her own.
The problem with Rell is that she's hard to pick up but mastering her doesn't really give you much. Rell plays a lot more risky only to offer underwhelming crowd control, no real reason to pick her up over other tank engage supports.
nice pfp
Leona, Nautilus and Alistar are all just too good in the tank engage support role and nothing new(that isn't insanely op) will top them.
You could say she’s not relly that good
@@tylerd80495 Except that rell has 3 forms of AOE CC and can combo really well, if Ali fails his W Q combo he has nothing, apart from his Q he's single target and merely a damage sponge to throw himself in the enemy team, Same with Leona, only her ult affects multiple people, great single target peel or cc, not so much team.
Naut's Ult can affect the enemy team but it has to travel through, and he has to auto for his passive to proc which is usually only on his q target.
All three of those are great at peeling for an adc, but rell has explosive aoe cc like Rakan, can steal % armour and magic resist and can peel/heal for a target, if you have someone like rengar or shaco, or anyone that can go in, just bond with them and bam 5 man cc for 3 abilities, plus AOE resistance shread and shield breaking
@@saintpres4ge533 yeah she CAN do all that stuff but it's so wonky and difficult to get off it doesn't even really matter, she just needs a few buffs tbh or just better items
I like my mains and am good with them
Vars: "why No one plays"
Me: stop it, wasnt illaoi, chogath, nasus, kayle, corki, azir, aurelion sol and kalista enough?
Yeah i got struck by the kayle and cho gath ones too.
shyvana is so forgotten u even forget her
@Rias Gremory Because having a main is different from being an OTP, I typically make sure to have at least 3 champs I main in any given role purely so I don't get caught out if my champ gets banned out, for example I play Neeko, Diana, Annie, Zoe, and Cassiopia in mid and if anyone of them gets banned I still have options to oppose the enemy team's composition, I'm an extreme example because it's more often that people pick a main role and make sure they have one champ in each role to fall back on if they get role filled, but the principle is still the same because it's good to have a decent pool of mains to meet different scenarios.
@Rias Gremory all his Horocruxes have mains
@@snowpegasi Actually that's wrong. Your main champion is the one you play the most, the rest are your side picks. An OTP is someone who only plays their main and has no other side picks.
How to fix Rell. Remove the needless attack speed limiter, make E usable without a ally nearby (a small circle around her), and finally, lengthen Q just a little bit.
They could make it so her Q range changes based on whether she's mounted or not. While mounted it can be very far but kind of weak, and while dismounted it can be short but strong af.
Also when dismounted, they shouldn't make her slow AF..
Also make her Q apply to her passive to not just the first target
maker her q longer with half the cast time would benefit her alot, also using e without teammate would be amazing, also limiting movement speed cap on w dismount is bs.
And add a ground (like poppy w) to her ult, so noone can just run away with quadrillion dashes or blinks
There is no worse feeling in the game than being slowed in the middle of the enemy team as a melee champ, unables to do anything as their whole team kites you and melts you down. Rell's gameplay is entirely based on that. She might as well Polymorph herself for 3 seconds after every spell.
Oh Rell is so much fun...when you get a duo and coordinate well. I get why shes unpopular but she has to have her crippling weaknesses to get her amazing strenght and teamfight potential...sort of like taric.
I like rell as she is ...theres 156 champs not everyone can be popular .
Gee, if only all champs had both clear strengths and weaknesses. Sadly, Rito cannot balance for shit lol
@@quincy7258 laughs in whatever weakness yone and viego were suppose to even have...
@@theimmortaleye7511 they weren't
@@miguelarrieiro Yeah that's the whole point of @theimmortaleye's statement
@@Outerceptor ik
but some ppl couldn't notice it
bcz would think: it's just so hidden even rito don't know
Because she has too many tools and Riot had to put a lot of restrains so that she did not become a monster (slow attack speed, bad tank stats, q low range, w's movement speed cap, etc). She is very punishing if you fail.
And it is a pity she has such low playrate, she has one of the most original kits and her fantasy power, ferromancy, is very cool. Her visual design is also amazing
First of all. They have released and buff already better champions than her without even putting restrains on their release.
Secons of all, she is one good buff from becoming broken herself. And i want to see that buff cause assassins, bruisers, slayers and juggernauts should not be the only favoured champs for riot.
@@gkarak1996 we can't just destroy the game as support players we have to stand firm ground while still being patient, we shouldn't let them treat us badly because league will just get ruined the same way overwatch did.
I love rell cause off that and then there's yone
@@tokofukawap4055 "We cant destroy the game as support players"
Nami Electrocute, AP support meta, Yuumi making 1 v 9 champs virtually unkillable, Healing Enchanters healing more hp than your team can damage.
@@freshlymemed5680 and even with all that. A literal 0/10 yasuo with 2 crit items can f*ING win the game against all that you described for literally no effort by slaming their head on a keyboard.
The whole support class needs some vital buffs.
i actually played Rell a lot on release, and every time I ran into a case where I missed my engage then had to trudge my way out of getting dogpiled as the slowest thing in the game just slowly going "aaaaaaa!"
Its the same reason blitz and rammus stopped being fun
atrract and repel addition: after snapping the tether the tethered ally and any allies caught in the snap get a flat 150 movement speed towards her for 1.5s
You realize, that's straight up broken?
@@xv3672 depending on the numbers it doesn't have to be broken. Supports like Janna grant allies movement speed when moving towards her I believe
@@fantasan8540 Yes, but that's 8% bonus movement speed, not flat 150. And sure, if lower the number, then it would be more balanced, but now with that she can get follow ups from her team when she goes in, but not only that, it can also serve as an escape tool from ganks and potential picks.
5%/10%/15%20%25%ms for 2.5 s
I generally play her because she's just funner in general compared to other engage supports. I've tried playing champs like Leona, but I find her way too straightforward and boring. Rell also just has better teamfighting, and I don't care what you say but hitting that sweet w-r combo on the entire team is the best feeling in all of league
Leona and naut make me feel like a chimpanzee mashing 4 big red buttons , so i agree
Fully agree on top of that if you pair her with a good samira it’s the most fun and in your F. face duo of bot lane
Naut and Leona model and animation rework when?
Also wen u miss your w on an ash and get slowed to your own death
Also when you hit Ctrl+4 then spam Ctrl+1to bait the enemy
you forgot to mention that rell also has the lowest damage of tank supports, and that her stun becomes unusable if her ally is too far or dead, meaning she's one of the worst supports at surviving if her ADC dies in early lane.
yep
When I first saw Rell, I thought "huh, a champion I haven't heard of yet." then I saw her kit and thought "yeah, I can see why no-one's talked about her." then I saw her interactions and thought "why the hell haven't people been talking about her?" now, with this video I really want to play her because damn those plays look interesting
I FIGHT ALONE
Literally can't do shit without anyone especially E
Could do a new series called "why EVERYONE bans [champion]"
Good idea, finally ill see a champ i play in a video
Zed,teemo and Yasuo
*Time to shine*
Why everyone bans morgana
@@francobaldoni5800 *laughs in new Glacial Augment being OP on her*
@@francobaldoni5800 3 freakin seconds of immobile in toxic pond of magic
by god, you showing twisted treelines when talking about thresh... that made the nostalgia flow ;-; rip twisted treelines
Dominion too
I got my M7 on Rell shortly after her release because I love her agressive playstyle.
My only changes would be to make ult bigger or make it anchor enemies, and make her stun work if alone, even if is just a circle around her.
Maybe you have 'short' cc time, but you gotta play her right as you can engage then wait for enemies to run a bit and cc'em again, she got a sick aoe, is not made to lock down, is made to chase, all about positioning and it implies to know how to play an adc so you can know when to protect or chase when needed.
Her only sin is to be made for teamwork.
Her level 2 engage is so strong. People in lower ELO do not respect it, until they fail to get level 2 first and get clapped as a result.
I love her, she’s become a main-stay in my support pool.
rells mini rework is a breathe of fresh air for her she actually feels like a champion now being able to do pretty sick cc combo once it lands and getting tankier off her horse, her q being a micro stun along with breaking shields is when better than the armor shred and piss heal it use to do, and her e giving you and a lly a speed buff along with a aftershock proc that does %max hp damage is nice as well, she basically feels like a alternative to leona if she was banned.
I think there’s been a why no one plays for at least half my mains 😳
POV: You are the most unique character in season 10 but no one plays you.
Sadge ):
If rell was really the best designed champ players would also play her since that‘s also good design
@@alexw4827 I mean she is the most unique champ in season 10.
@@cembirol1394 Unique does not equal good.
@@entonberg3945 yeah you are right.
My big gripe for rell is she is too dependent on teammates to do very well, and she has almost no self reliance. Which when you mix that with her lore where she is pumped to be this super powerful lone wolf feromancer that should be used to counter mordekaiser, and she just contradicts that mechanically. Mix with her atrocious aa makes her hell for clearing wards
your suggestion of added movement speed on her E makes so much sense! Hopefully someone at Riot finds your video and implement that.
Well as someone has put rell into their tank roster theirs a few reasons the first is no one in the game gets as punished for misssing a combo as Rell. Shes one of the few tanks who douse no real damage and it is frustrating that you have to trust your a ADC to do all the dmg sense she can't do damage or she will show up top sense she has armor melt. And her e being forced to be within a certain range activate her e is more than frustrating at times. Her problem is that for all her CC dosnt counter her flaws for half the fight your slower than yummi even a slight slow turns into a root when shes off her mount but her speed on the mount is not fast enough to counter balance that.
1. You really need to improve you english.
2. I agree she get's punished hard for missing combos
3. Her armoured up form isn't slowed - she has reduced base movement speed (fix? Boots of switft and Deadman first item). I got her to be 370 on legs and almost 500 when mounted
@@VeneficusCubes Not very ideal though. Rushing Deadman's plate is not going to be as impactful as the enemy support going locket, moonstone or liandry's, etc. Sure you fix your movement speed issue but the downside is that if you're not ahead, it'll end up becoming a low-impact purchase which is not optimal for League which is all about snowballing games now.
@@d4rren09 the thing with rell is she isn't self snowballing champion anyway unless you go full ap or something. This way your endage is more secure and impact full as you have additional dmg and mobility. Plus in case you do end up on foot alone. W + deadman is enough to get away from almost everyone
Low rank games with Rell always went the same for me... Whole team is with me!' I engauge 3+ enemies, My team does nothing or just plain run and I die... They have a million reasons they didn't want to fight with the advantage and blame me for feeding... Of coarse that could be any tank now...
Rell, feels like a real tank. Doesn't do a lot of damage, but has the CC and such to back her up. Shame, other tanks will do what she was but better and with more killing power.
Very short answer: Because Leona outclasses her immensely and is easier.
Yes and no... If youre good at rell shes better than leona but leona is so effective and easy why take the harder option for most players. Its like why use a machete when a knife does enough ...they both cut.
- Rell enjoyer😅😂
Leona doesn't outclass her
Easier? yes, outclass her? No.
Rell counters leona tho
Leona doesn’t outclass her but Leona has a better laning phase than Rell. Match ups that Leona can go even or stomp, Rell struggles with because people can dodge Rell’s W but not Leona’s E.
In a teamfight Rell wins because she can cc multiple champs at once while Leona just has her Ult and her E and Q is single target.
Both champs have their pros and cons. Leona just have less cons than Rell atm.
Omg I asked for this video a while ago! Thank you for coming around to this rather I was an influence or not. Sure this might mean more ppl will pick/ban my main, but tbh she needed a time to shine. Ty! :)
I just started playing Rell and the first thing I notice is her abilities feel similar to Rammus, while her role is the same as Nautilus. Rammus can go all in with his Q or ult the same way Rell does with her W, and then when Rammus uses his W he's extremely strong but also extremely slow and easily kited, which is exactly like Rell's armour form, the difference being Rammus can force an enemy to attack him instead of kiting him, while Rell can't do that without burning her ult or being in a good position for her E stun. Meanwhile she feels like she takes Nautilus's role as a tank support, but she makes some trade-offs, like having more mobility for less CC and more damage for less tankiness, but even then Nautilus feels like the better pick because instead of diving head first into the enemy, he brings the enemy towards him and can pull them out of position, meanwhile Rell's only option is to wait for them to have bad positioning then dive them. Rell risks a kamikaze play if her team doesn't follow up, while Nautilus drags an enemy to where they're more vulnerable.
I don’t know why she isn’t played more she’s a well rounded support her cc is amazing as well as her damage. I always play her into other tank supports. I guess the only negative is she takes a little coordination
That little coordination is enough for most players no to give her a chance. Similar case than taric
The one thing i dislike about her is how incredibly slow you are after using w to engage, early game if you w on the support and they flash away you get poked super easily or even cced to death just from 1 mistake. I love Rell but that feeling of making 1 mistake and you are dead feels really oof
@@thatdodo8263 Basically any marksman rn 🤣
Her damage is not as high as Leona's or Nautilus' tho
@@EddyConejo I think you never tasted full ap rell experience
The moment I found out supports where going to get a rider class with a badass lance, I spammed her in pbe trying to figure her out. I love playing Rell but she has many cons that outweigh her pros.
She is probably one of the worse champions to play in the game because her entire kit revolves around landing her W. A slow, predictable aoe knock up, that slides her forward. If she misses this she literally becomes crippled and have to take the walk of shame or die a pathetic death. Anyone with decent reaction time can dodge this with flash, a champion’s dash or movespeed buff, or interupt her W with hard cc. You can’t just turn your brain off when playing Rell like you would with Leona or Nautilus, you have to be 100% sure that your W is going to land.
Also one of her cc abilities is locked behind needing a teammate so her roams are pretty hit or miss. Also her Q is a short range ability that can erase shields of any kind, but it looks her in place along with using her E, which makes Rell feel really clunky to play. Riot solved this issue already with Sejauni and Kled so there’s no reason for Rell to feel so clunky. Also her auto attack are so fucking slow. With red trinket she can’t even clear 2 wards so going something like zombie is useless on her.
She also does very little dmg, compared to Nautilus and Leona while also having much more bad match ups. The support can easily pick Janna, Thresh, Rakan, Morg, Karma, Neeko, Blitz, or Soraka and make Rell’s life a living hell. Or the enemy adc can pick, Lucian, Vayne, Ezreal, Xayah, Caitlyn, Draven, Kai Sa and easily dodge or interrupt her W and get the free-est kill of their life.
Because she has so many bad match ups she almost always lose lane and need to hit 6 to even try 2 with how unreliable her W, even though her W is max first.
Right now the only reason to play Rell is when I know I could maybe win lane, and if I want to remove everyone’s Shieldbow, Steraks, Locket, Guardian and other champion’s shields. I love playing Rell, she was my best performing champ this season (in a champion pool of Rakan, Leona, and Karma) but she has so many cons that I can’t first pick her without knowing what the enemy support is in high elo.
Just uncripple her when she dismounts. Why is she’s punished even more for going in? No other tank is punished this badly for going in. It’s like Riot tried making a “fair” tank support but all they did was make the worse one in the roster. League isn’t about being fair they even said it the recent preseaon video that has more dislikes than likes.
don't forget that enemies can dash out of your ultimate's lingering pull after the initial activation, and she's so slow that she can't follow after them. if they let her ult ground she'd be much better at actually holding people down. and it'd also fit the idea of her letting all her power out pulling enemies in so hard they can't escape.
She is one good buff from becoming broken.
I'd like to see something like Alistar's 'new' E. Giving him something to do in between ability combos was a great change.
Maybe her auto attacks could lower her remount cd?
I've never felt Morgana to be a counter to Rell tbh she can counter Morgs black shield with her shield break q and just w to get off or reposition before she gets morg q'ed. I feel the true counters to Rell are Nami, Zill and Alista. Each with the ability to deny her predictable all in.
0:35 the best way to not say hey this is the growing least played champed.
I remember when Rell was released and the pros started playing her a lot. The reason why she looked so strong is because of the coordinated environment pro players play in. I've never seen a Rell in solo queue do nearly as well as a pro support playing Rell.
Which is a shame. Her fluff is really cool, her design is really cool, but as you said, she's the most "all-in" of the tank supports. The number of times I've seen a Rell w into the enemy botlane only to get killed because she can't escape from the trade or fight....
Indeed. At this point I believe they should make her lance even slower, but give it a chunking ability like Sheen to make it feel good.
After watching this, Rell kinda feels like the Sona of tanks, great with the entire team and bad with one. Altho I feel like even Sona can hold her own a bit better than Rell since she scales waaaay better.
And sona has other strong points
she is ranged, her powechord can be versatile (she can deal great damage to both champions and towers + the possibility of using banshee or debuff enemies), she can do lots of damage early to midgame with dark Harvest and she doesnt require much to do
Ahh the only Champion that Calms people when the topic is "all new champions are Broken"
"All NEW CHAMPS ARE PERMABANNED FOR AT LEAST 3 WEEKS IN R-, oh yeah, there's Rell."
She is one buff from being broken and i want to see that buff. She deserve that with all the support mistreatment for years now.
@@gkarak1996 years?? she has not even been out for years lol
@@d4s0n282 They meant the whole support role.
Didn't expect the Dynasty Warriors 8 camp music here. Nice!
Morgana: Look what they have to do to mimic a fraction of my power!
I love Rell. She's my third favorite champ in the game behind Leona and Sett. I do wish she was a little stronger, or at little tankier, but either way I love her gameplay. Just adjust her numbers and she'd be great in my book.
One change they could give her is make her ult drain resistences every tick.
Rell was supposed to be an anti-tank suport, that was her initial phantasy but the only thing on her kit that does that is her passive.
Honestly there's a lot of things that set Rell back, she has a bunch of penalties that really didn't need to be there, like the attack and move speed reductions. Clearing vision with Rell is a nightmare, you can barely clear one ward with a lens activation. Her W is the most telegraphed skill ever, if you think you're going to counter Janna by destroying her shields, guess what, she's the one that counters you by using her Q and R when you use your W. So i think they should make it unstopable.
Those are a few changes they could make.
I love that idea for an Ult improvement. I think Riot forgot supports need to clear wards. If they allowed her Q to target wards, the attack speed wouldn’t be as big of an issue. She does still counter Janna, just used Mount Up as your primary engage, not crash down. Even if tornado knocks you up your charge duration is longer than the knock up and Rell still flips her target.
@@DuctTapedDuke like senna and pyke can with q
Youve become my favourite content creator, thank you for really good videos and I look forward to your next
this video aged like a fine wine. shes still so underplayed and as a rell main it hurts trying to love playing her
Why you never link the music you use :'(
The music is ALTERED BLUE 5.CROSSROADS from the Dynasty Warriors 8 ORIGINAL SOUND TRACK
Sorry I'm a bit late :)
its a shame though, when you spend a few games committing to her, building items and learning mechanics - shes actually a really good support.
This popped in my recs, and you got me from the start with that Dynasty Warriors soundtrack.
I actually main her next to Thresh, and I cannot agree better, this was the best sum up I’ve ever heard.
My thoughts on how rell should be changed:
Her Q: Make it the same, but when she marks an enemy with her Q, it enables her first auto-attack on a marked enemy to fling them behind her. Basically her Mounted W effect.
Her W: same thing, but make the engage have a little bit more range but not much.
Her E: No changes.
Her R: maybe put a "grounded" effect on her radius, this shows more sense of that magnet field and will lock down dashes and escapes
So you are suggesting a giga busted engage tank with 4 cc in her kit
@@railx2005 ikr hahaha. i’d say just make her w resistances significant to make up for her low movement speed. and i would like to have her e to not go on cooldown when changing tethers. her lack of damage is reasonable to me, a single q could literally cut a 2k stoneplate shield. but i want riot to make her better than average with what she can only offer.
I have been playing league for about 8 months. I am a support main and a more experienced friend of mine heavily endorsed me to get Rell. With Rell, I have learnt when to engage, because if I don't go in at the perfect time, I will probably die. Rell is a very good champion for me and she's made me a much better support.
Nice! Now go pick up Leona and do ten times more than you’ve done with rell! Especially now since you’ve learned some things.
Don’t mean to be a troll, but it’s just the honest truth. Leona is rell x10.
@@jareddepew1467 not at all, I'm supp main ( thresh OTP ) and rell is just so good to have in good team comp for example when you see diana/yasuo, galio/camille, orianna/malphite heck even amumu jg, or really just any of these on it's own she's just far more valueable then leona she just isn't good gor every team comp
I think a largely forgotten part of her kit as well is her bound ally gets bonus armor so even if she isn't doing too much she provides bonus raw stats at very least, its similar to orianna and people forget how large those raw stats can effect a fight
@Vars I see you with that dynasty warriors theme going. That's awesome!!
I thought it was fitting haha. Rell's got that motif of hardened war with her horsey and big lance
Do you know the name of the song? Im trying to find it.
I absolutely love Rell but she just feels so much more punishing than Leona or Nautilus that I can't find the right situation to play her anymore...
It's a shame because I really do love her, but it feels worse than almost any other champ when you whiff your combo because once you're in, you either win the whole fight or you die. Sometimes both. Often both.
I love playing Rell, but I only play her in flex with a pre-made team with voice chat. She has amazing synergies, they’re just hard to take advantage of in solo q
Rell is in a really good balance spot, I think. Especially in this shield-heavy meta. The problem here I feel is that Rell is just that. Fine. After her stun nerf, I stopped seeing other Rells, because it just put her in a perfect spot. No one wants to play a champ that isn't OP, even though I feel like Rell is pretty good if you're capable of semi-decent positioning in a team fight.
EDIT: I also love watching someone's (Sett's) spirit break when you break their huge shield they just got.
there are so many times where binding to a teammate giving them armor and magic resist makes a huge difference, especially in the early game
bruh you're using dynasty warriors bgm hahahaha love it!
what a man of culture
Omg, movement speed buff towards tethered champions when on CD would be absolutely amazing!!!
I personally believe that she's under played because she's so dependant on her team to be used properly. other support tanks have some sort of solo threat. She's just so weak on her own she's effectively tank yuumi.
About 2 months ago I returned to LoL after taking a break for 3 years. I was watching your videos and this one Actually inspired me to check this champion out. Now I am 500 games deep.
Very informative, As im not playing league since Sona 2.0 , this would explain why i cant see her on other streamers vods or clips .
I like Rell, and I've always liked to play tanks. ... Sadly she's the perfect example of just how bad the damage creep has gotten! Tanks in general just are not... tanky right now... Burst damage and self healing have bullied them out of the game.
Happy that they're nerfing damage at the end of this month.
Hope you see this but you should do, Why EVERYONE plays: Irelia, its just, a pick or ban champ, literally
I'm waiting for WEP Irelia. Pretty sure her dashing mechanics and lifesteal will be featured in the video. She's also annoying lol
Cause she is so fun and can make such intoxicating plays lol not to mention very strong
Man I just love your channel
I really like the idea of giving her an allied magnetism thing. If the tethered Ally could click on her when she ults to be brought to her like a thresh lantern, that would be awesome. I don't think it would be OP either cause it's on her ult.
As someone who's been playing support for years, is currently diamond and just started playing Rell a bit more, I just want to say you've pin pointed the exact issue with I find with her. She just feels clunky, especially her W. I recommend you play with a good engage duo on her just to get a feel for her E and later other abilities.
At the end you say that she's super good at some stuff but has clear and galring weaknesses, there's nothing wrong with that, she's good the way she is imo, a rewarding champ to learn
Clunky bc of armour
Rell is one of the best supports. I got mastery level 7 a week after Rell was released and have a 60+ % win rate on her. She is super impactful and when mastered can completely dominate a lane, especially with early game aggression. She is a little weaker then other supports at face value, but she can do so much more with the team. I’m still surprised she isn’t played more. She may need a little more coordination but as long as you play smart, you’re gonna do great.
I play rell, though i dont do ranked, but shes one of my three mains with Sej and rakan. i love everything about rell, her backstory her vc her playstyle, everything about her i love and adore.
A slight modification that would make a huge difference:
'Offensive Thresh Lantern' :
Instead of casting a duo with an ally likeTaric,she could cast a piece of her armor on the field (like Shen's spirit sword or JarvanIV's standard ) and allies could walk on it to gain bonus shield (like Bard's heal )
BUT if it is still on the floor,it blocks at least projectiles(just like braum's Door) maybe also taunt nearby ennemies to assert dominance on the field.
Also, she could have a Trojan Horse ability working like Kayle's ultimate,but with great mouvement speed to make allies engage or escape
Honestly as a supp main I think she’s an amazing support she has great cc, she feels smooth to play except her E and she’s amazingly tanky. But as everyone else has said she needs follow up from her team and she’s tricky to pick up and doesn’t provide much for the effort put into her. In addition he e is super clunky as you need someone near you in a range to even use it not to mention how it has a cool down when you get in range anyway. Her damage is non existent on her own. She’s great and doesn’t really have any bad matchups besides thresh. She provides a lot utility and can be played defensively. Riot just needs to give her a good skin and people will play her lmao 😂
As a rell otp I say rell has enough dmg with right items I swap between fulltank builds with sometimes knights vow and ap bruiser er builds with everfrost/evenshroud/sunfire/frostfire build.
So I Try to build up at least 1 slow threw items like rylais or Deadmans but starting with frost/evemshroud. thorn ail demonic/frozen heart/demonic/gargoyles. Shit on hexflash play with triumph and tenacity or out of combat ms and taste of blood
She is so much fun to play but unfortunately Leona does everything she does but better. Hope they give her some buffs to make her viable
I think they should instead just nerf Leona. She‘s too oppressive and safe with her W and her incredibly long and easy to execute CC.
Leona is the go to cc support at worlds and for good reason, she is just too good at what she does. And amumu support pales in comparison to Leona's kit btw. But yeah I just tested Rell's kit in training mode and she is so underwhelming
I wouldn't say she does everything Rell does but better but rather. She does everything Rell does but much easier. Miss your e engage on Leona? Whatever just wait. Miss your w engage on Rell? Gg you probably just lost that fight in lane.
coincidentally, been playing Rell 3 games in ARAM and finally today at ranked(Silver 3, got demoted). obviously 4 games is nowhere near enough to have an opinion but, *bruh* i completely understood everything you said. she has little lockdown duration even with full combo, very low ranged for an engage and always alone and ahead of teammates.
thanks for quality content. keep up the good work. wish you well.
It would be cool if when you dismount the mount can be picked up by an ally like thresh lamp and rushes to you, that way when you engage your ally has the choice of charge with you
Rell is one of my favorites she's honestly really good once mastered but the skill floor is high any mistakes when engaging means death and you need coordination when going in other then that she's very good edit also rell cant really play defense very well unless lts counter engage
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She's cool, good at team fights and she deserves more love imo. She has only one skin and it's been two years without getting new skin. Rip.
Only one thing that stop people from playing her is that she's so slow when unmounted from horse. So slow :( one mistake and you're dead.
Welcome to the joust! The combatants are in place, horses chomping at the bit, the signal goes and they charge meeting halfway just to pull their horses to a stop before jabbing their lances at each other once. They both miss and yank their reins for the horses to move again.
Yeah, that's how Rell q and auto work. Even though she's *mounted* she has to stop in order to attack.
Although she isnt played a lot for all the excellent reasons you stated, She is still a great addition to the tank lineup and I imagine that other tank enjoyers like myself really welcomed her arrival. Its nice to have a vanguard that is actually skill-expressive from a micro-mechanical standpoint, its something that is rarely seen in league. Personally I love her character, and feeling like the engagiest engage support there is, so i'll always be happy she's in league
I was SO hyped for Rell's release, since she was an tank/engage support, which is my favorite archetype. However, I just can't enjoy playing her. I absolutely despise having self-cc in general, and even though I understand that the abysmal self-inflicted slow is a way to make her engages have a counterplay, it is an aspect I just can't get around in terms of enjoying playing the champion.
It's really annoying how you're just not a champion once you use W and become unmounted
Rell was made to beat Mordekaiser? She can't even compete with a 2011 sun wannabe how could she beat better viego
Tell that to yorick who should have defeated viego....and he wouldve done it if not for those meddling sentinels
@@theimmortaleye7511 Who is Yorick?After the sentinels seems like he disappeared from existence
@@violegrace8582 You don't remember? Yorick is the guy with the sword and... No wait.. Yeah he is the guy with the weapon,the... He is... I swear I remember now, he is that guy who is a tree in the jungle. I... I think?
Rell is top tier support. She was wrecking havoc in pro play last season. Her dismount form is the only thing holding her back. She just needs good communication and teamplay to get her full usage. Low elo press W at bad time, then youre just stuck and dead. Her main problem
Instantly recognized that Dynasty Warriors music, have a sub.
Rell is one of my favorites tho... her big problem is she has no damage so glory seekers in soloque hate her. You gotta rely on team mates. She's one of my mains
Rell should be played more. Her ability to counter Immortal Skillbow with a Q is devastating. She's one of my 3 support mains, alongside my Zilean and Janna
I think the title of this series fits best when I look at the champion in the thumbnail and say "...who?"
I’ve been playing Rell a lot since she came out and She quickly became one of my favorite champions to play but boy oh boy you really hit the nail on the head with this video, I enjoy playing her the most when I’m with a duo or a 5 stack and I’m able to communicate better with the rest of my team, but in solo q she’s just not worth it when I can do everything she does in a much safer manner on a Nautilus or Leona
I'm level 7 with Rell and the two things I would like changes is completely change her Q with a new ability, it is worthless unless used on a shield, and let her activate E without an ally and only stun enemies directly around her.
Heavily disagree with you. Her Q is op
1. She's all about all-ins. That's the direction I think the champ designers in Riot went for. Kind of like a Leona with the AOE CC like Alistar but without the slight chance of coming back safely. That's why she and samira were popular months ago.
2. She's requires patience. Her W range is meh and it's animation kills it even more. Compare it to hook champions like Blitz, Thresh, Nautilus and compare it to how Leona & Alistar engage. It's so slow compared to their engage abilities but at least it's aoe
3. People compare her to Leona and for me, Leona is more on single target lockdown (it's rare for me to have 3+ people hit by my ult unless it's aram) while Rell is more on AOE in a way that she gathers the enemies around her. Doesn't help that unlike Leona, Rell has a penalty to her W
4. Her way of getting defenses is to either be in Unmounted form (which has such a slow speed) or auto/Q an enemy champion (monsters count but it gives way less).
Doing the latter is hard since most of the time, all u do as rell is jump on enemies and stun them not to mention her attack windup is so slow
the movement speed is the real killer for me ive played only a few games with her and it just feels like such a self punish being that slow after engaging ... especially if everyone just dashes away or simply walks away from you
Even though Rell is similar to other tank supports its that tether that can really make a difference Imagine having another tank or bruiser like irelia from the top lane and a jinx. Rell Ingage with the tether on the secondary tank with boosted resistance; the jinx would be able to mow the entire enemy team down. So personally from that tether it gives so much more team engage potential than other supports of that class can supply. I do agree with the addition of using the tether to pull in another team make and it makes sense from its name to be able to do that.
When Rell was revealed, I was worried that my main Champion, Leona, would be totally outclassed by her. Then Rell was actually released and I realized that my Sun-Paladin was here to stay, as Rell was supremely “Meh”.
She was never meant to outclass leona ...shes the hard version of leona. They do the same but one is harder to pull off but brings different strenghts....man the biased towards leona is real but i kinda get it. Why use a saw when a simple knife does the trick
Why use the saw(that for some reason has no blade and cant cut) when the simple knife does the trick(and cuts better)
Rell cant 1v1 an adc like leona😂
@@raulbrenes778 true thats not rells point , rell excels at engaging with her adc in a coordinated engage, shes way tankier and actually packs more cc
@@theimmortaleye7511 the only thing I dont like about rell is that her W dismount movement speed penalty. Leona can gain the same tank stats without stupid penalty.
I love rell but only high elo players know how good she is. And the other 90% of the players dont like team fight champs with low dmg
Just a bit of attack speed would be enough to break her Passive and not many people realized that. A single good buff could break her. There is a reason why she is picked in pro play.
I'm an otp Rell, and I think to fix the character, we could add some speed animation on her W, some range and when she is dismounted she gain some attack speed for 2/4sec to apply her passive.
And maybe add "when link to an ally, he gain more movement speed when you cast spell" on her E.
I legit forgot this champion existed and that is weird because even if you don't see other champions either like Singed for example you still know he exist by the solely fact that you know almost no one plays him.
I'm kinda a rell main and its kinda sad to see her at this level. Rell suffered from the same problem as aphelios, an overloaded champ heavily nerfed so she can't bust the game. She got heals, breaking shields, knock ups, knock overs, a stun, grants an ally defensive stats, steals armor and mr, has a leona w and naut w in her w, aoe camilles ult all her cc is aoe, her w allows for chasing or breaking up fights, she can jump walls... Its because of all of this she is nerfed so badly. And she still got nerfed twice after to the point where every engage is a all in irregardless of anything. But from personal experience rells problem isn't in the abilities or needs, its the adc. Rell doesn't work well with most of the adcs ppl prefer, especially the pokers. And adcs are never on their toes waiting for the engage and it sucks. They never looking out for the engage and you'll take alot of dmg if they take too long, and once your abilities are on cooldown, u gonna get poke out if u are dismounted. With a proactive adc u can get the first blood or lvl 2 and dominate the game. But your adc gotta play attention because u get punished badly if they not. And in solo queue where is usually everyone for themselves, no one wants to give anyone that kinda power over them. Its easier to pick up any other tank and dominate, but best tank in game is rell. Her ability to penta stun and lock down an entire team in one-shot makes her the best engaging support as of now. If ppl would just follow up properly on my engage rell can dominate, but that's not guaranteed all the time. That and people who play sivir, useless adc. And rell needs more loving, riot aint even give her another skin yet sigh.
what you said is true but there is also the flip side to your argument, yes she doest do much with a poke adc but thats just non senarie not adcs fault like sivir have you see her q damage in games, same goes for varus and such. you say adcs doesnt pay focus to engage but i think it is a low elo issue as they most probably than not are still learning csing and are concentating on them try to ping multiple time like a sec before even if you are not really engaging try to say u are going to play agro. Another reasing why adcs sometimes hesitate to be active with engage as there are bad adcs there are bad supports who doesnt know when to engage or miss which may result in a double kill for enimes adcs, so most probably than not we dont know what the support is thinking. in my early matches i have played agro with support not following even enages one and died so many times. as adcs we have think of opponets damge more than anything. so try to comunicate ping a couple of times which as i have seen helps a lot when i play adc or support( I play both with my main being adc). remember ther e are still bad adcs or people starting adcs and learning happens to all of us ignore that games. good luck and have fun
and also plz think of match yes you can win fights with hard engage on level 2 but if both are level 2 a twitch cannot win agaist mf. atleast if he is not going HOB sth like that but after a noonquier he will win with that cc evertime.
@@santhoshdabbir395 Yes you're right about that mostly. Rell will work better at higher elos and truly, and as a true support main I will try pick a champ that synergises well the adcs. But, adcs should know when is a good idea of when to engage, once we hit lvl 2 first we win. I'm not even referring to abilities, we can win the trade off the autos from any adc and that's what makes poke champ hard to support, not that its there main form of dmg, but the fact that they forget they can auto in the early game, especially ez player and sivir players. Varus still has to stack his w so they usually auto still sivir players and ez players forgot they can and we lose the trade. Rell works as long as the adc can deal sustained dmg or aoe ult.
Another problem is who they focus down. Alot of adc players will focus down the tank and tel the op adc kills them and get the double. Always focus the enemy adc even if I don't. Thats how u win lane, u stay clear of enemy cc and kill the adc first then deal with the support.
@@gregorysandy2960 ya if they dont focus adc there are soft trolling
Honestly, after taking a break from League for a few months, Rell is that one newer champion I forget is in the game. Despite the design of being able to control metal, her overall appearance just feels bland (for me at least).
Me: wasn't playing the game when she was released, didn't know about her existence up until now.
first video of yours I've watched, was great. I'll check out some more then maybe subscribe, great work.
Based on what you’ve said, Rell is _TOO_ well balanced. And she’s a generic tank support as well. That stance change could be reworked into a more unique kit, one stance for engage and lockdown, and one for mobility and survival.
Her design to me screams “I have fought thousands of battles, behold what I have learned” so that’s my motivation
Honestly from what I can think of:
-Team Dependent despite being a CC Tank
-Clunky to play at times
-Has a similar problem to someone like Yorick/Illaoi where while they do their job better than their peers, the way they do it is what makes them sort of not as likable to pick up.
Imo they should give her a way to situationally refresh her mount/dismount or maybe have a way of turning the pull on R into a push?
Little disappointed that this covers my engage support character comparisons, but at least we did talk about it :)