Harvard president ‘has to leave,’ Alan Dershowitz argues | Cuomo
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- Опубликовано: 7 дек 2023
- Leaders of elite universities are under fire over testimony they gave to Congress this week about antisemitism on college campuses. Marc Lamont Hill, a professor and host of “UpFront” on Al Jazeera, and Alan Dershowitz, a prominent attorney - and Harvard Law professor emeritus - join “CUOMO” to debate. Dershowitz says the president of Harvard “has to leave.”
#Harvard #freespeech #antisemitism
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Yes, Harvard president has to leave.
when universities relegate and lower their standards - *so much* , as a result of affirmative action, you get mindless lunatics like the Harvard "president" f-king things up in every way imaginable because of her legendary incompetence; that institution's/Harvard's reputation is now but a dilapidated mess and a ruin of its former self... The biggest cancer plaguing academia is 1. wokeness/woke culture and 2. affirmative action
She needs to be sued personally and federal hate charges brought
Bill Ackman's defense of his wife, Neri Oxman, in the wake of plagiarism accusations regarding her doctoral dissertation at MIT, stands in stark contrast to his treatment of former Harvard president Claudine Gay, who faced similar allegations.
Let's be really specific: I have seen footage at Harvard of pro-Palestinian protestors surrounding a Jewish student and preventing his free movement. I think we can all agree that shouldn't happen, and at Harvard you would expect, minimally, some sort of analysis of the campus environment to discover why it happened.
Slow your roll. Who invited logic and common sense?
And did anyone get expelled from Harvard from threatening, bullying, and harassment of that guy they surrounded?
@@imo8249 Eratosthenes.
holy crap, are you serious????? I didn't know it was like that
@@freethoughts2898YES. IT'S ON VIDEO. WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN???
Mark, get real dude. The testimony of these three university presidents was completely shameful.
Mark is a leftist. Of course he's defending them
Mark is cynical and manipulative. He will be able to describe ball as a cube
Shows that you didn’t watch it other than the clips Fox News gave you
@@samiabe8686 Oh yeah, what clips did I miss? I watched the entire testimony.
@@NJIT22, he was on point. What part about his description gave you pause?
No, she should not leave. SSHE SHOULD BE FIRED!
FOr what? You idiots don't even know what the issue is. Nobody called for genocide of all jews. This entire thing is nonsense and a straw man.
HARVARD PRESIDENT NEEDS TO BE FIRED
He is a reporter of Aljazeera. Say no more
Stay mad
@@Raytheprodigy21is that what you are?!
Aha! No wonder 🤔
Thank you.
Exaclty. Maybe we should ask a Hamas member what he thinks about this Harvard President.
Shes gotta go, she ment it and apology is phony
They only apologise when they’re caught out! Marc doesn’t appear to have seen any of the demonstrations at the University!
Mark's admittedly attended many of these school rallies.
I wish Marc Lamont Hill will use his intellectual and knowledge for more than just spinning/deflecting: the issue was if call for genocide….not what constitutes a call for genocide. It was so clear and repetitive that I’m shocked he’s able to try and spin this with a straight face.
I have to fervently agree with you.
Although I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t agree passionately on much of anything else, socially politically economically culturally.
Furthermore, Marc didn’t blatantly call for “context” regarding the abhorrent offerings of the students themselves.
But he did unequivocally find “context” with the testimony of the presidents.
I don’t know for sure, but I don’t think Marc was asking for “context” for anyone supporting the “free speech” rights of those malignant anti American Charlottesville Virginia “Unite The Right” protestors that led to Heather Heyer losing her life.
The presidents failed miserably at assuring Congress and more importantly the American people, that they will vehemently exhaustively defend any person or group that has been targeted for violence or bullying based on race/color religion gender.
Marc works for Aljazeera. Just in case you need to know.
He has absolutely no intellectual knowledge of anything. He's incompetent and proof of the pathetic nature of our Academic institutions
Marc Lamont Hill intellect and knowledge?
There was no call for genocide. This is so silly. Intifada is not a call for genocide. From the river to the sea is not a call for genocide.
Nobody was calling for the extinction of Jews.
Students are threatened and college presidents do not act claiming "context".
Havard, Penn and MIT need new presidents with logic and backbone.
Not only that. The woke political hacks in these institutions need to be sacked. The woke policies taught scrapped. These unis will continue to fail everyone until there is major change.
Strange beliefs from these presidents. Unbelievable.....
Mark _just explained_ your concerns, yet you _still_ wrote that?
@@Silence_Duder_Gooder Mr Hill/Ms Magill are near replicas in hate speech oversight. Jews do not get it.
@@Silence_Duder_Gooder No Mark is playing more games with what was said, why couldn't the presidents of those universities just say yes to the question BUT that there were no reports of students calling for genocide on their campuses?
I believe if these actions had been directed against Black-Americans rather than against Americans who are Jewish, none of the Ivy league institutions would have accepted that conduct.
Lamont Hill qualifies indisputably as leading ambassador for the woke intellectual metastasis within contemporary academia.
Absolutely true
Alan Dershowitz does not need to argue, that is simply common sense. Who has installed these incapacitated despicable woman in that place at first?
Even before this testimony, she was demonstrably unqualified for her position. Now, it’s clear that she is a complete token.
has to go? how did she ever get there?
By checking of the black, lesbian and female boxes.
We know how she got there. It’s not a coincidence that she is ill equipped to deal with a complicated real life subject. She’s a creature of The Academy, where everyone agrees with her viewpoint and all you have to do is mouth platitudes to succeed. And, by the way, there are no administrators of any color, gender, or background who would successfully navigate ANY public discussion. They are all little left wing robots.
Dershowitz speaks truth
I’m sure Epstein agrees
Dershowitz is a disingenuous fraud and a liar. Nobody called for genocide of Jews, but Israel is literally engaged in genocide in Gaza, and all this is is an effort to take focus away from that.
Dershowitz is an alleged rapist.
These university presidents need to be Fired!
Harvard become just another low class university - I wouldn’t send my kids there even if they give us free tuition
Marc Lamont Hill is an adult male that has literally cried on national television 7 separate times
That sounds like a human being with feelings to me.
@@dawn123ish Jajajaja...
He might not agree with the adult male description you used. He believes men can get pregnant so there you have it. Don’t expect anything of value from him
He actually made solid points. The Israel lobby hijacked the word anti Semitism and are currently doing the same to true word Genocide.
@@LoftisforTreasurer, sure, but Alan's BS is usually fear-baiting nonsense anyway, and he's an alleged rapist, so who _cares_ what he thinks.
They should put the universities before their careers. We need presidents not puppets.
Claudine Gay said anyone who threatens other students "will be held to account." What does that mean? I think that's just words to pacify the outrage of her not doing her job. As far as I know it happened. I imagine she knew about and I don't think she acted on it. As far as I know, I don't think anyone who did it, up to now has been "held to account."
"Pro-Hamas is a very small fraction of what we're dealing with"-----Oh Really? 2:28
Yeah, I heard that. Sometimes I have faith in Fredo. But to be honest I think I understand his game. Whoever he has on his show, he just agrees with. I've been noticing this trend with him. So yeah, I tried to give him a chance after CNN, but now I just realized he's just a useful idiot.
Yeah, that was an incorrect statement. All those protests were hate marches supporting Hamas unequivocally. That is a fact. You can check the footage.
But they _are_ an anecdotal part of this equation.
Just like the pro-Israel protesters in NYC who were caught on both video and audio shouting and holding signs that read, "Kill all Arabs!" and "They're all Vermin!" and "Turn Gaza into a Parking Lot!" and "Push Them All into the Sea!"
And a good question about that is, why haven't the media and this network specifically shown us that aforementioned video? I'm pretty sure if a video existed of that happening to pro-Israeli protesters, they'd air it on a loop for _weeks._ So why not that video?
Both sides have their extremes, just like all political stances.
P.S. I also checked out your 2:28 mark, so? Nothing in that picture shows us Hamas supporters. Quit spewing propaganda. That's why people like me and others, like Marc, don't take people like you seriously.
I would argue that not only does the Harvard President need to leave, but so does all of her support staff and senior management. It is not just the leader, but those who are suppose to be leaders, have supported her positions, and have also failed to protect the individual rights of all students. Not having taken any direct actions or having any direct action plans in the works is an obvious FAILURE OF LEADERSHIP. Not being able to say that the kind of religious hate speech speech is against the institution's code of conduct, yet alone being anti-American, is a FAILURE OF CITICENSHIP. Truth be told, I used to hold Harvard in high esteem. However, in the end, a degree is just a piece of paper. I value my family, my neighbors, all "churches," and the Constitution more. Obviously, Harvard, among other colleges and universities, need Congressional oversight, especially on how BILLIONS of US tax dollars are being spent. MORE THAN JUST SAYING...
Harvard having it's
Bud Lite moment
Dersh is correct !
I believe her original testimony, not what she's reading that was written by committee. She's burnt, just like the guy that pulled the fire alarm 👍
Exactly 💯 THE BLACK FEMALE PRESIDENT OF HARVARD IS DONE!!!😂😂
When the direct question is posed to the president of the college, “does calling for the genocide of Jews, violate the code of conduct” and her answer is, “it depends on the context”, THERE IS NOTHING TO DEBATE. If one person had called for the genocide of Muslims, you know damned well, that person would have been tossed out with ZERO hesitation. This is the epitome of hatred and hypocrisy.
The context is that calling for genocide is a war crime under international law, always, and these students could be prosecuted in an international court for it. The is zero protection for speech that constitutes a war crime and this is in no way an issue of protecting free speech on campus.
Nobody was calling for genocide. The premise is complete BS. Intifada is not a call for genocide. Any more than supporting Palestinians is calling for extermination of Jews.
I am against these woke anti-wite professors but no international law is goinf to prosecute billy bob in Arkansas for example? How ridiculous ia your claim! Here in America the ppl do not care about the international law or the Un for that matter you must be brainwashed 😂
@@otakurocklee, amazing, isn't it.
@@otakurocklee Yes intifada is a call for genocide.
Read the 1988 Covenant of Hamas, a branch of the Mulim Brotherhood which collaborated with the Nazis in the organization and implementation of the Shoah.
Read also about grand mufti al-Hosseini, head of the Brotherhood in Palestine, and his role in the organization of the 1936-38 pogroms against jews in Jerusalem and his trip to meet Hitler in Berlin in December 1941 to visit a concentration camp and coordinate a Shoah in Egypt in 1942.
Finally, 75% of Gazawis interviewed expressed their support for Hamas after the massacre on October 7. 5:21 5:21
Chris you should be ASHAMED having this Lawyer who is PARROTING what these three University Presidents were saying. GENOCIDE IS GENOCIDE and his SAME LAME EXCUSES ARE NOT OK.PERIOD.
Please direct us to both video and audio of your allegation.
@@Silence_Duder_Gooder Hello, THIS ONE.
@@user-jh4un7yy2h, they won't allow me to post what I wanted? Okay, let me rephrase it then: show me the evidence for yours and Ms. Stefanik's claims.
@@user-jh4un7yy2h, I don't know if RUclips will allow me to post this, but I'll try anyway:
Type into your RUclips search engine the words "Pro-Israel protesters to a pro-Palestine activist: 'I wish they'll rape you alive.'"
Now sure, this wasn't on a college campus, I don't think, but ask yourself why this type of interaction never gets coverage from our mainstream media outlets.
Because what Code Pink's Medea Benjamin went through with the unbelievable harassment of those pro-Israel women was ten times worse than what kids on college campuses were accused of, which was nothing, by the way.
All these Ivy League schools need to be abolished. Stop hiring these graduates. These “elitists” have to go…..
This Marc guy said to Candice Owens that men can get pregnant. This tells you all about his 100 degrees he taught him.. 😂
Marc Lamont Hill is the perfect example of what's wrong with America. He must have been educated at Harvard.
What's wrong with 🇺🇸 is MAGA ZIONIST Trump christians who can't even get into Havard because they are so poorly educated.
Absolutely - see my comment above.
Exactly my thoughts. He must have come from Harvard (AFTER it was bought out by Qatar).
He is a CLOWN 🤡 😂😂😂
@@ruthbanon6049 He works for Al Jazeera. He's literally on the payroll of the Qatari rulers.
🇬🇧 case for resignation across the board 🤷♂️
Why isn't Dershowitz' response included?
Maybe because he's an alleged rapist?
@@Silence_Duder_Gooder So you invite a speaker and then don't include his remarks because of some allegations? Allegations are allegations, there's no verdict
"Feminism was established to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream."-Rush Limbaugh
It’s flabbergasting to listen to this guy talk about the poor misunderstood Palestinian students; they know the hate they have been taught and now they are the teachers of it…
Shaaaaaaaaaaaaadddup.
But she's a black lesbian, how can you fire her?
Get her out! A cancer like that inside an institution that should be looking for the truth and progress of human kind. That’s how the demise of a civilization starts, this is devastating!
She needs to resign and Harvard does not need anymore federal funding
On Harvard, you can be kicked out of school for supposedly fat shaming somebody. Or miss gendering them. So she’s good with violating first amendment rights for some students that don’t align with her political beliefs
Alan's explanation was clear and simple, but Marc's was complicated and contorted. In the end these college presidents have admitted they were wrong, Marc's mental process requires an imagination that can only be cultivated through higher education.
You have that backwards, or you are just unable to decipher logic over emotional non-sequiturs.
Now get a qualified person for president
Oh my God I gotta change the channel that gentleman from the Algara. I saw his broadcast where I’m he was talking with the gentleman from Israel and I just wonder I guess this is how I’m so confused with peoples reaction to this Hamas crap and that gentleman there don’t know his name and I don’t care what his name is because they see one thing and speak something completely completely false, and want to insist that everybody had to buy it and people are and I am disgustedand I’m not Jewish I’m German
This wasn’t even English.
@@Raytheprodigy21 weed bees legals.
If it was about context, why did they apologize?
This generation has different ideas-uses terms like context and conduct-are there too many unmarketable courses-college not necessary to make a good living-many may wish to immerse in the REAL world of creating opportunity
Left radical ruling😂😂china will be no 1💪
You can’t have a blue lives matter t shirt on these campuses without getting called into student conduct.
THATS THE POINT.
Again as people have said a million times “if we substituted this for black people the rules would not be the same”
Chris did a great job here. I find myself watching him much more now vs when he was at CNN.
My Jr college now has more credibility than Harvard Univ!
Marc Lamont Hill has the video of a Jewish student being physically blocked and surrounded while he praises the words of Claudine Gay expressing her very very high standards of protecting Jews on campus. Watch this and understand that you are dealing with an ideologue who has zero sense of shameless Trust him and his fellow travelers at your own risk.
He only stated that there hasn't been a call for "genocide" on these campuses and also stipulated that any sort of behavior that was highlighted in that video was that he opposed it. You guys like to cherry-pick what this man says, like it's a buffet while adding your own conclusions.
She failed to answer YES or NO Question! 😡
It was a loaded question and the premise was false. Intifada does not mean extinction of Jews. Nothing antisemitic about it. Intifada is about resistance against oppression, in this case the oppressors being Israel. Not jews.
How about the posters that said "min el maya el maya falastin arabiya" which basically means river to the sea will be arab. Is that about race explicitly enough or not?
@@skaaaaaaa, both sides have adopted that slogan.
@Silence_Duder_Gooder just seeing ur reply here. I don't think that's true but regardless, do u agree that stefaniks question wasn't about specific rhetoric, and therefore OP is right?
@@skaaaaaaa, there's quite a bit of conflation going on here and in that hearing as well. Pro-Palestinian protesters chanting for an "intifada" isn't antisemitic or a call for violence against Jews; it's a call for resistance against the Israeli government.
Ms. Stefanik knew this is the case, or she was just ignorant about it. But I believe she knew that was the case. And what she did there was take the question and put it into a vacuum so that it would appear to look antisemitic if those three women didn't answer her in a very specific way. And those three women also didn't help their cause in any way because they never elaborated on their stance. But I imagine if they had done that, Ms. Stefanik would have interrupted them from doing so, because that sort of necessary nuance or context would ruin her underlying motivation to silence one side of this debate.
We've seen this before, when DWS did it to Matt Taibbi during a couple of hearings over the _Twitter Files_ revelations. We heard DWS say, "It's a 'yes or no' answer, Mr. Taibbi," multiple times. And in that type of exchange, there is no room for nuance or context to be given, and that's by design, so that the side that's badgering the witness can achieve their desired political result. And just like in this case, that case also had context that needed to be highlighted because the question was so one-sided.
Nobody at those rallies advocated for the extermination, or "genocide," of Jews. Nobody at those rallies was caught on audio calling for the genocide of Jews. Because if they had, that audio would have been presented at that hearing as evidence. But since there wasn't any such audio presented, that tells me that Ms. Stefanik and her side of things were acting in a disingenuous manner.
If you would like to hear a more in-depth report about what I wrote above, just go to the RUclips search engine and type the words, "System Update with Glenn Greenwald," then after that type in the words, "Ivy Leagues Fold on Free Speech After Congress Shakedown," and listen to what Glenn said about it.
Hey, you may disagree with my take and Glenn's, but if you do, please elaborate for me why you believe that. Then maybe we can come to some sort of common understanding about it.
Peace to you and yours.
But that was prejudice does it divides and destroy so anytime you have anybody in that particular seat being president of Harvard and she can't say the right thing the true thing she needs to get out of that seat for some concern she is no longer president of Harvard I will always think of her as not being a president of Harvard university
Dog whistling is not acceptable or can be explained away.
Students are customers. No student, university business will close down!
This isn't a Jewish thing this is a higher indoctrination and no education and waste billions of dollars of tax money and kids money thing. This is a you can't graduate college and get a decent job because I don't teach you anything of value thing.
I doubt Harvard graduates are having trouble finding jobs. Plus, Harvard is a private university, so I'm not sure that it's taking tax money.
So Harvard is funded in the tune of billions with Stafford and Peel grants that are low interest grants subsidized by hard-working taxpayers who can barely make their rent to put these indoctrinated idiots into the world to hate our country.
Also the government gives billions in research grants to Harvard and their scientists.
That's also paid for by us and then Harvard gets the patent and makes a killing....... ..
I'm a physician in Los Angeles and I love knowledge and education but colleges have to be replaced with trade schools
Note: I'm opposed to Universities violating second amendment exceptions to freedom of speech.
Marc is too far on the left. A smart guy blinded by identity politics
They should’ve answered yes.. What they did put more harm to pro-Palestine camp
Evil eats its own.
There has been aggression and physical entrapment of Jewish students. Intifada doesn’t call for violence? Actions in this case speak louder than words.
come on mark, if saying genocide jews is not harrasment then saying genocide blacks also not harrasment..is that what you want? dont say context now mark, be consistent.
Thank you Marc for explaining that the University has to protect free speech otherwise all students and staff would be afraid to say anything in fear of offend someone. Thank you Marc for speaking with clarity.
They won't be held accountable 😮
I do not think, leaving Harvard would be enough in case of the president of this Hamas Spot in the USA
Harvard come on, don't be a big joke, fire that DEI imbicel!
Seems like the jewish people were far less able to defend themselves at the boarder than the texans at the rio grand or the swiss in europe-however any kind of hate speech should be prohibited immediately with severe consequences.
How is it that almost no one is talking about the answer of Kornbluth who is jewish herself?
This dude makes no sense , and drowns the question with a long explanation
For Prof. Hill, black people matters more than Jewisch people. What a shame for what Luther King died for.
Let me correct you ... Americans don't want Biden.
what a waste of education.
Nobody wants them. Get out!!!!!!
Just stopping to say hi to Fredo.
Remove that woman from her position already.
Fredo your still the same
But she said one down to the go eventually she will have to vacate that seat there is too much pressure for her to stay either 1 of them went down to the guy
When is she leaving because this is taken too long she should have stepped back and stepped down and who does the firing and hiring of university presidents she needs to go students are not going to come back until she's gone
I disagree with the black guy because because it's a seat once the seat is planned didn't it becomes racist you stop deceived and you have to stop it cause the seed grows it will grow within itself it doesn't care that you don't care about him they care about you and they want to destroy you so when that first protest started on that campus it should have been stopt because they don't have a opinion they're there to learn not about discussing about war you can discuss it in the classroom But your but palestinians are aggressive and we know it and he knows it to
Again I'm a black person this black guy is kind of talking to the left because when I saw full footage of these palestinians chasing jews the gression in the face horrible that should not be on the campus if you want to stop free will and free speech that's when you need to stop it because if you don't stop some free will and some speech it can be dangerous this certain freewheels yes that's not free will that's hate so it's a difference between a fine line between freewheel speech and h speech they're not the same
I stopped watching the video in the middle. Why doesn't Cuomo let his guest speak?
This is an insult to Prof Dersh ,who is this Mark
pro life, pro creation students faculty, employers or workers must feel safe in expressing their deeply held religious views
Go Alan!! You speak the right and the truth!! Lamont is not worth speaking about. Harvard Ranks last place lamont in Free Speech! get an education!
Alan is an alleged rapist, Bub.
I thought NewsNation was a conservative organization. Then I see Chris Cuomo hosting. Nope! Gotta go.
She doesn’t need to be in any school.
This black guy is the only person in the U.S, aside from Hamas supporters, defending Harvard's President........insane
The Supreme Court has set speech limits differently in school settings.
Yes, they needs to go far far away.
A person’s degrees are useless if they are morally corrupt. There’s absolutely nothing cool nor sustainable about being an eternal student. At one point you have to put on big man’s pants and grow up and not hide behind degrees.
Said the CNN Fredo who got FIRED from double talks 😂😂😂
After Gay resigns, Marc can do the same.
Dr. Charles Asher Small, the institute of global antisemitism policy: American and Canadian Universities Swimming in middle east cash such as Qatar (that is supporter of radical Islam brotherhood group).
It's a national security issue.
If american are calling for the genocide of black people, that is never acceptable. For a black president, she should know better.
But it shouldn't even require a comparison ! Gay's own moral compass (which she apparently lacks) should have dictated her responses ... Oh wait, it did !
Dersh 1. Islamist 0
Can't even finish listening to the twisted explanation.
End of the day they chose a non PhD so called normal guy for coordinate and educate.
But now some say (after corona and 2023 records) it's not OK for this system.
I agree to disagree......
Harvard lost my support 😮
Yes. She deserve to be fired. How about the president of University of Columbia, NYU, Stanford and UC Berkeley. They should also be on the list for invetigation!
Sexual terror is real to victims
It's not so much what the person says as much as it is what the other person receives. The person who says such can be belligerent, use microphone, yell, advance, swarm etc which could provoke extremely strong emotions in the receiver. Thus, if one insinuates genocide even once, never mind repeatedly, that could trigger a strong, safety emotion in the receiver, making the environment an unsafe place for learning
She should be fired. Period.
Great show. Thank you for your reporting.
She may be able to repeat facts from books but she has zero common sense.
Please. Everyone knows these people ( safespace, safety, microagression freak hysteriacs) had these racehating views for years ..especially about whites.. tho strangely, noone had a problem w that...