It’s sad that calling for the genocide of a race is not considered harassment and violence but calling someone by the wrong pronoun is. These women are disgraceful. I’m not a conservative person, in fact I’m a proud and open minded gay man, but these university presidents make me sick
@@ajam3086Why?? Because the Victims are not Muslims?? Classic Hypocrisy at display. When Jordan Massacred Palestinians during Black September the World was very Quiet
So a Harvard student addressing a Black or Muslim or Chinese or Native American fellow student calling for the genocide of Blacks or Muslims or Chinese would be acceptable and „context dependent” according to Harvard and not be hate speech or bullying or harassment or speech that incites violence as is „has not moved to action yet”?
Identity politics is at the root cause of this. Instead of following deeper down this path, we should find our way back to seeing people as individuals with equal rights, that we judge on what they do!
This needs as many upvotes as possible, because this is the exact framework that determines the approach. Identity politics divided us into groups instead of individuals. As a result, many groups have become hammers that only see everything as a nail.
No, the root cause is the apartheid regime in Israel. They're being opposed by antizionists on college campuses and it's being misconstrued as antisemitism for political gain by republicans. The same people who were crying about "free speech on college campuses" when Richard Spencer was advocating for an Israel-style white ethnostate in north america are now trying to shut down student protests (again) when the politics don't line up with theirs.
Critical theory is a big reason for the rise of identity politics. The basis of the theory is that you divide people into groups and draw differences amongst them, rather than similarities. When that is the thought process, humanity is the sacrifice.
Don't blame the politicians. Blame the people want recognition for being who they are. Hard to fathom I know. In case you don't know our history....no one thing is at the root of something. It takes many things coming together to create any kind of movement. I know people love the easy, I believe in what my mind tells me...I must be right, opinions as facts. We are so uneducated or well read. Our country gets dumber every day.
“Does calling for the genocide of Jews constitute as harassment?” “It depends on the context.” What context could possibly make that not harassment? Truly disappointing to see such racism/discrimination. Both antisemitism and Islamaphobia and just “religionaphobia” should be clearly condemned with more than empty, vague words. Yet these universities cannot even give empty words sometimes.
They call for the genocide of white people and then claim it doesn’t count as hate speech or harassment Sooooooo maybe you gotta wonder if they bring this shit on themselves
Tell me how many palestinians vs how many jewish people were physically assaulted on American soil. I can mention 4 palestinain victims actually and really been victims of physical violence. One is DEAD right now. And ‘oh my good ‘ the poor jewish students’ are hearing hateful speech what a victim!!! The real victim is soaking in their own blood you people. Not complaining of hearing stuff. The real victims were shot. For real shot with a gun!! You are having a hearing full of fancy people complaining of hateful speech or wtvr. Wake up
As an Australian looking on I am shocked...from the very nucleaus of America. To hear rhe questions and to hear the intentional deceptive answers is a shocker...its for real...
The context of this is a climate in which Republicans and some Democrats have continually portrayed pro-Palestinian rights protestors as anti-semitic, Hamas supporters.
As an American I appreciate your concern. This shit has been going on for a long time it's just that it's now hit congress. The universities in America have been poisoned for nearly 2 decades now, if not longer.
Other than shaming these schools which will amount to nothing until they lose all their tax exempt status and funding, congress has to start doing what it has the power to do and that’s cutting off funding. Period! Do it and stop talking about it!
Why should Harvard care about anything? They have an endowment as large as the national debt. They won’t need another dollar for two or three lifetimes. Our country is rotten at its core and working its way outward.
@@ortho-g9826lol how can it be free speech when they do not let everybody have the same free speech?Oh that is right only free speech for people that agree with you,do not know what America you live in but that is not free speech in my America.
Protesting is what you do on a university it is unacceptable that it becomes violent. Taking a shot at the leadership here makes you sound like a #racist and a #bigot. The institutions are BETTER because of their leadership. Everyone should feel safe and protected on campus. Truth is: It is terrible that the indicted Israelí PM (a man) was too concerned with protecting his political future and supported hamas monetarily because he thought it was good strategy politically. Since your comment is implying women somehow are the problem.🤡
That is also my observation, women-presidents of these elite universities regardless of color, seem to be more biased, maybe because women are more emotional by nature, maternal, easily swayed, I can go on on...or maybe it's just coincidence, sorry. @@White_Breeder
We really need unbiased judges to settle disputes of what really is and what really is not antisemitism. Today many equilibrated and fair criticism about how Israel is collaterally killing thousands of innocent Palestinian and inflicting collective punishment to the Palestine people. Sometimes the cries of “antisemitism” are really in many instances attempts to impunity of illegal acts, from the International Law point of view.
@@ortho-g9826 yes he is because the president are breaking the code of conduct the students signed when entering colleges about not discriminating and they are doing nothing about their code of conduct rules.How could some lead a institution when they refuse to comply their OWN RULES.
From top to bottom. These academic leaders are failing to uphold the standards they have spoken about. Freedom of expression when it adheres to their approved social agendas.
Harvard also hired Beetlejuice ----- Former Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot (aka, Beetlejuice) will serve as a Richard L. and Ronay A. Menschel Senior Leadership Fellow at Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health.
If Communists wanted to accept reality they would stop being Communists. They don't want to hear it and do want to get rid of you for showing them this. Not just the schools but almost all of our institutions were taken over by these people. We tried talking about it and were persecuted. WE are called the bad guys for pointing out how they are the bad guys! It's sick and nuts! LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO PRESIDENT TRUMP!!!
Long video. I’ll sum it up. Calling for the genocide of Jews in college doesn’t count towards the schools discrimination, harassment, and intimidation policy because of context and lack of action or it not being directed towards one individual. Which is all BS and a cover to allow hate you agree with. Also segregation is ok as long as the ppl pushing for it like it. Also BS.
@@adamneusbaum3749Well… interestingly enough, all of the countries of the entire world are represented in the deaths of 9/11 EXCEPT Israel. No Israelis died in 9/11. Jews died, but no Israelis.
@1:31:16. She just can't bring herself to say it. It's at odds with their 'values' but it's not against Harvards' code of conduct. Right. It blooodywell should be against the code of conduct at Harvard.🤦Honestly, I think you're objectionable lady. You have lost sight of your sense of values, right and wrong. Sooner than expel those responsible they actually give them a platform instead. It's despicable really.
But it's not against Harvard's policy. She as the others were just supporting the place that they work in. "Doing the job" . Y is she being given the most criticism amongst those who said the exact same words.
Absolutely disgusting! They should be fired immediately. All these yrs we've been living under hate speech threats for MISGENDERING, Or using certain language that someone else considers "hate" and now they refuse to condemn this? All those students should be expelled and or deported!
There was NOTHING for those presidents to condemn. Students have, rightly and courageously, been calling for a ceasefire, for an Intifada (an armed uprising against oppression, like in France in WWII) and for a Palestine/Israel to be liberated for all people from the river to the sea. Democracy.
They seem more concerned about islamophobia than anti Semitic hatred they are supposed to address. I’m a paralyzed veterans as well as a history professor, I deal with discrimination just about every single day.
@@Hgcfdghjjvvc Israel is not an apartheid state it has 30% Muslims In universities doctors lawyers nurses teachers in Congress on the Supreme Court. Some of the Muslims volunteer to the IDF . There are over 20 Muslim countries. are there any Jews anywhere in Congress or universities? Muslim countries are apartheid. Where are all the Jews from Iraq Algeria Iran? No Jews anywhere in Muslim countries. Before you call Israel an apartheid you should educate yourself. Why don’t you go look up what an apartheid means because Israel is definitely not But I could say that about all the Muslim countries
@@mocopaitwhat does your statement have to do with the the OP? She never said that wasn't the case. Just made it clear that people are fighting for freedom of religion, but a political movement that is based in exploration, genocide and colonization. Read a book, it's better than trying to sound smart on the net.
The standard is pretty simple here in the United States and other Western countries Take all the negative s*** that's being said remove Israel from the speech and replace it with black people and see whether or not it's okay I guarantee you that same speech or speeches having the words Israel replaced with black people would not be okay it would be immediately labeled as hate speech and the event would have been shut down
@@chopperchuck Jewish privilege is 400+ Jews in the Biden administration in key positions even though they constitute 2-3% of the population. Jewish privilege is 30+ standing ovations by Congress for Israeli President Herzog during his last visit to America. Get the picture?
A society that doesn't know, recognise or acknowledge the difference between the CONSTITUTIONALLY GUARANTEED RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH, and LICENSE, is of a neccessity, bound to be in continuous turmoil.
A society doesn’t know that colleges have a code of conduct that students signs that say they will not discriminate,so they can spout all the racist crap they want off campus but not on campus learn the rules.
well Upenn dont defend unlimited freedom of speech,see the "Water buffalo incident" . Neither does Harvard,see how they revoked the admission of few students who had past racial comments surfaced...
@@legendofman12 My children did for their sons. South African varsities are really bad and full of politics and learning is continually disrupted. Our grandsons found a small private college which is cheaper than varsity and are doing brilliantly. Both one finished and the other busy with Bsc IT. The oldest one was the winner of best design for the Web page. He now works for an American company from home. Leaving for UK on Friday. The younger one just finished his first year.
I am yet to see Islamaphobia protests or videos of any of it, maybe being in another Country might be the reason, but I've seen 100s of videos of Jewish citizens & students being harrased and bullied and assaulted. So again where are the Islamaphobia videos? 😮
I’m in the US, if they had such Islamophobia videos it would be blasted all over the media…..yet nothing. Same with other leftist groups, the LGBTQ claim they are being attacked and genocide committed against them daily…..yet the only case they continue to reference is a real crime from the 80s of a gay man killed in rural America. Not saying that in a country of 330 million that there aren’t a few bad apples, but a lot of what are media claims is blatantly false. I imagine our propaganda rivals North Korea.
It's only free speech if the threats and insults are being directed at people with pale skin. It's not "harassment." They're DEATH THREATS. If its directed at bown or black people, it's a crime punishable by jail time, job loss, and or dismissal.
@@jilpok1074I have to say that I really don't know if they do or don't. They look pretty much like I do, I suppose. I couldn't identify a Jewish person if I had to. They don't bother me so maybe I've never felt the need to take note of identifying characteristics if they have any.
@@exeterline1930 hmm…you can’t have it both ways buddy. Your first statement clearly defines that you see a difference between brown and whites. Now. All of a sudden you don’t see color…? Hmm
One can assume that auditory comprehension is a mandatory skill one has to possess in order to attend these schools, let alone run them. Also, one would have assumed that the dean of Harvard would have known that simply saying "I answered your question", does not really mean that she answered the question.
They are, in a sense. Several Jewish billionaires have withdrawn their contributions in response. Why so many Jewish billionaires are dumping money into public universities is another matter, though...
@@ButtSolutionThese are not public universities. They are private universities. The Palestinian kids were present at my public university in 2006. These government leaders are simply uneducated on Israel/Palestine.
@ButtSolution they absolutely have been. It's being discussed in congree. I watch A LOT of congressional hearings. They have deals with universities who have accepted millions from Arab countries including IRAN.
If you’re in America you have no right to act against another individual for their beliefs. Leave the conflict in the Middle East and be kind to one another regardless of beliefs. No group in America that claims it actually faces persecution here.
I'd like to know where this Democrat congresswoman actually thinks that there's brilliant minds in front I love her because quite frankly I heard nothing but rhetoric coming from these people just appease the people asking questions because they're afraid of losing their Federal funding and their tax exemption
Like most University administrators, they will say what is needed to support one another, regardless of how disgusting the dialogue is, with the goal of hiring one another when their terms are up. Its only about ensuring they can move onto the next position, surrounded by sycophants. The Board of Governors, or similar body, must fire these clowns and deal with hate speech pragmatically and quickly, within the boundaries of state and federal law, and University policy concerning hate speech should mimic these laws. This is not about freedom of speech, at all.
Just make sure that the whole world sees these videos. Post them wherever you can. We want people to know what is happening with these schools and especially these worthless Presidents.
this comment is laughable if it is implying what I think it is.. Turn on the news right now and you will see endless criticism of Israel. If what you are insinuating is that Jews themselves are not criticized, well then, Jews should not be criticized on behalf of a government that does not represent and is not supported by a plethora of Jews.
1:40:51 >Allen important part> 1:43:16 Kornbluth MIT , answers with a Freudian slip at 1:44:06 "I have to say when we started this protest Umm when the protest rather was started.. 1:45:05 Question: Do either of you plan to suspend foreign students who violate the law or school policies?
I don’t know what you are saying but I know for a fact that mit president is pro Jews. She is being told what to say and how to say not to get the university in trouble but she is definitely is pro Jewish
Did any of you know that Hamas leaders sitting in Quatar have billions in the bank. Around 4 billion each. This is money meant for the people of Palistine. They live in the lap of luxury, send their daughters to varsities but forbid girl children to be educated past around age 12. The gardens, fruit trees and vegetables Jews left behind in Gaza when they were removed were destroyed and water pipes for the gardens were dug up and used for bombs. Gaza could have been so different.
How about the chick in the back right after the moment of silence 00:34. This unbelievable amount of disrespect is appalling and a fear our future will have to deal with.
It is absolutely amazing how these uni presidents do not see the that inability to call out the speech used to be just what it, hate and anti-semitism and that their students have every right to say that they are not feeling safe on their campus. The actions of their students are appalling and should be denounced. It’s like they are afraid to see or hear the truth or reality right in front of them.
so you all now agree with the "safe space" idea.great. Like with everything republicans finally come around to an idea only after they feel effected personally. Until then it's F U not my problem
To become a university president it would appear 'diversity', a biological female, a lack of understanding (including English language), are the main requisites.
When an organization allows a opinionated culture to dominate its ranks and willfully embraces a one sided view of culture ,society and reality it reflects that bias at all levels of its institutional framework. Driven by a penchant to embrace ideologies that are contrary to the very fundamental principles of freedom of speech the institution will ultimately ingrain those ideologies at the highest levels and eventually will exhibit a deep lack of clarity in its ability to represent itself in a manner worthy of its founding principles and in addition worthy of those who have played key roles in building that institution over decades. These women are representative of the very simple adage that they each most likely know all to well by heart! " POWER CORRUPTS AND ULTIMATE POWER CORRUPTS ULTIMATELY!" They have gotten to the point where they can accept the idea that advocating murder against a group of people seems acceptable within their institutional framework and they got caught with their intellectual pants down proverbially as they themselves in their own seemingly smug words informed us of their thinking!
Quite frankly the questions should be presented to any democrat congress man or woman you do understand you have members in your party that has said anti-semitic things to and nothing is being done about that because the Republicans don't have the vote to kick their asses out of office the simple fact is a Democrat would never vote to kick one of their own people out but they will vote to kick a republican out of office
1:46:00> Wild 1:47:42 "I think of College of the place where we learn to think critically" Well I'm sorry to tell you this Miss Wild but many students of the latter/current generation will say that they are NO LONGER being TAUGHT HOW to think but WHAT TO THINK. & Those insane hateful and even violent protests are just 1 symptom of that decline. The overall quality of (higher)Education system has gone downhill for years and the reason why it urgently needs to be changed ! And sadly this phenomena is not happening only in America but in almost every College and University of all Western countries !
Donations to institutions of higher learning can be safely made to HILLSDALE COLLEGE instead of Harvard, Columbia, University of Pennsylvania and all the others.
I would like to also question the moral mind set of the board members of these schools. Presidents are hired by the board! I would like to point out that most wars are at the hands of the rich and powerful. We need to start holding our leaders responsible and corporations responsible for what is happening in the world. If there is a failure to society it will be at the hands of our leaders and rich.
What does their opinion about Jews, and Israel, have to do with education? It’s like politics and religion, it’s a personal opinion, it is separate from education itself!
“CONDUCT MEANING COMMITTING THE ACT OF GENOCIDE?” I too was wondering what that their unanimous, orchestrated, weird answer meant. Does there need to be a conduct for anything to be considered a crime? Is chanting for bringing back the enslavement of black people in America also allowed on campuses as long as one doesn’t enslave a black person? Can one shout the N word on campus streets and keep one’s job as a staff member or position as a student? An adult coming on to a minor is also speech, is it also not criminal sexual conduct? Is THAT allowed on campus grounds or in American law?
These kids should be protesting for the US to promote peace in this region not supporting one group or the other. Attacking one group isn't going to solve the problem but create more problems.
Colleges should pay especially the ivy league school with all the endowments money they receive from donors not tax payer money to combat the hate and thier socialist ideas
After watching this hearing it confirms that I need to push my son into a trade and away from college. Its outlandish that genocide of a race or religion is not considered violent or harassment. Its sickening and people like this should not be in a position of power especially of our impressionable youth.
Yet when Institutions where students are mostly black in the School. Fèderal money isn't equally given. Civil Rights were supposed to help us as a group in America has it?. Do ppl on the planet or this panel care about the feelings of us not feelings safe too?.
1400 Js were unalived, 14,000 Palestians women & babies and still counting were unalived. Yet you want to talk about students protesting about the war crimes being commited against palestians are you people for real. They have a right to say THIS IS WRONG and if it hurts your feelings then maybe you should tell your fellow Js in Israel to stop the genocide on Palistine
Will there be a hearing for other Colleges an Universities where these same issues are just as rampant too? Like NYU for instance. Please Feel free to post any others in a reply to me Also names of Colleges/Universities in other Western countries. Thx
virginia tech, I think, where marchers were chanting "Jews will not replace us" those were right-wing neonazis though, so you may have already mind-erased that one.
@@solvingpolitics3172PLSTN is a region in the Near East inhabited continuously for well over 1000 years by an indigenous group of people we call the PLSTNans. Following an international wave of nationalism in the early 20th century, this group lobbied for national recognition by contemporary global powers.
@@SingleMaltBuckeye The odd thing is that I see multiple references to the name "PLSTN" in the documentary historical record dating all the way back to 400BC. Odder still, these same indigenous group self identify as PLSTN people. As such, we must conclude that PLSTN is indeed the name of this particular region that exists within the larger geographical designation of "Transjordan". When in doubt, it is generally a good idea to defer to the opinion of the indigenous people. Particularly if it is backed by a documentary trail of primary historical sources.
Are they aware of something called “Social Media?” If they are aware how in Gods not so green earth could they keep all those investments in Zionist Israel?
I really respect the committee who opened the event with a moment of silence for the victims of October 7. But something bothered me. Why does the moment of silence not also for the 20,000 victims in Gaza, including 8,000 children. They are also humans with souls.
Here is over 5 hours of testimony that few people have actually watched. What people are responding to are 10-20 second exchanges out of context meant to provoke outrage among Conservatives (mostly)... which is admittedly easy to do.
It’s sad that calling for the genocide of a race is not considered harassment and violence but calling someone by the wrong pronoun is. These women are disgraceful. I’m not a conservative person, in fact I’m a proud and open minded gay man, but these university presidents make me sick
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I don't think OP is supporting what Azerbaijan is doing to Armenia, what are you on about?
@@spikertakerunrelated , keep up.
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@@ajam3086Why?? Because the Victims are not Muslims?? Classic Hypocrisy at display. When Jordan Massacred Palestinians during Black September the World was very Quiet
@@Hgcfdghjjvvcsaid like a true proud antisemite. Good for you!
As a university professor’s wife the funniest statement in this video so far “we strive to have the most diverse faculty….”
Diversity only matters concerning skin color or the phony descriptor gender.
I thought so too
Agree. No Diversity in thoughts, unfortunately.
Does diversity mean the KKK gets a seat on the board out of fairness and inclusion?
Academia has gone off the rails. .. Most get degrees in LYING.
So a Harvard student addressing a Black or Muslim or Chinese or Native American fellow student calling for the genocide of Blacks or Muslims or Chinese would be acceptable and „context dependent” according to Harvard and not be hate speech or bullying or harassment or speech that incites violence as is „has not moved to action yet”?
Exactly! How is there a word only for the "Jewish" issues but everyone else falls under racism?
One can not address antisemitism without addressing racism.
Where are the students chanting "genocide for Israel" or "genocide for the jews" ?? Are you guys making this stuff up?
does the song line "from sea to shining sea" call for genocide? you all just seem to think everything is calling for genocide
@@eniselmenic5056you don't even know their chant and is so freaking easy 😂
Identity politics is at the root cause of this. Instead of following deeper down this path, we should find our way back to seeing people as individuals with equal rights, that we judge on what they do!
This needs as many upvotes as possible, because this is the exact framework that determines the approach. Identity politics divided us into groups instead of individuals. As a result, many groups have become hammers that only see everything as a nail.
No, the root cause is the apartheid regime in Israel. They're being opposed by antizionists on college campuses and it's being misconstrued as antisemitism for political gain by republicans. The same people who were crying about "free speech on college campuses" when Richard Spencer was advocating for an Israel-style white ethnostate in north america are now trying to shut down student protests (again) when the politics don't line up with theirs.
Only one side is doing that, the side who's always the victim
Critical theory is a big reason for the rise of identity politics. The basis of the theory is that you divide people into groups and draw differences amongst them, rather than similarities. When that is the thought process, humanity is the sacrifice.
Don't blame the politicians. Blame the people want recognition for being who they are. Hard to fathom I know. In case you don't know our history....no one thing is at the root of something. It takes many things coming together to create any kind of movement. I know people love the easy, I believe in what my mind tells me...I must be right, opinions as facts. We are so uneducated or well read. Our country gets dumber every day.
“Does calling for the genocide of Jews constitute as harassment?”
“It depends on the context.”
What context could possibly make that not harassment? Truly disappointing to see such racism/discrimination. Both antisemitism and Islamaphobia and just “religionaphobia” should be clearly condemned with more than empty, vague words. Yet these universities cannot even give empty words sometimes.
We can thank the many Democrats who support these ideas for that. AOC, Illhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, Corey bush, and many others.
They call for the genocide of white people and then claim it doesn’t count as hate speech or harassment
Sooooooo maybe you gotta wonder if they bring this shit on themselves
Tell me how many palestinians vs how many jewish people were physically assaulted on American soil.
I can mention 4 palestinain victims actually and really been victims of physical violence. One is DEAD right now.
And ‘oh my good ‘ the poor jewish students’ are hearing hateful speech what a victim!!!
The real victim is soaking in their own blood you people. Not complaining of hearing stuff.
The real victims were shot. For real shot with a gun!!
You are having a hearing full of fancy people complaining of hateful speech or wtvr.
Wake up
Jews and Muslims have been fighting each other for centuries. Why disingenuously dragging other groups into this fight as if it's their problem?
Does calling for the slaughter of the Palestinian "animals" constitute harassment? It's on both sides.
What a shame. Stop fueling these universities. What a shame.
Defund colleges,waste of taxpayers money.
Defund foreign pariah states
Fund Universities - yes; but Oust these presidents, condemn and stop hatred in all it's forms, speech OR action.
@@ajam3086 yea like palestine,jordon,Syria,Iran,Iraq,Lebanon,Saudi Arabia,
Defund democrats
After listening to these women the horrifying decline in their educational institutions suddenly makes sense.
@@Theonetruegod-hw2eiyou don’t make any sense
@@Theonetruegod-hw2ei and you win the stupidest comment of the day congratulations 🎉
@Theonetruegod-hw2ei, well, I do, and their thought process is abhorrent.
@@Muhammadwasapedo love the name.😂😂😂
@@Theonetruegod-hw2eiare you okay bro ?reading your comments leads me to believe that you missed your medication.
As an Australian looking on I am shocked...from the very nucleaus of America. To hear rhe questions and to hear the intentional deceptive answers is a shocker...its for real...
Really? I read that there was a large demonstration in Sidney, Australia "Gas the Jews"
Same..I am watching from Sydney and am shocked to see whats happening in America. It's very sad to see..
Bruh, you Aussies haven't even acknowledged aboriginal people their civil rights
The context of this is a climate in which Republicans and some Democrats have continually portrayed pro-Palestinian rights protestors as anti-semitic, Hamas supporters.
As an American I appreciate your concern. This shit has been going on for a long time it's just that it's now hit congress. The universities in America have been poisoned for nearly 2 decades now, if not longer.
Cut their funding, why subsidize these people?
Did they need funding from the Government?.
That's already been taking care of. Lex Wexner is on the case!
"Intellectual disgrace stares from every human face." --Auden.
wow. this Harvard woman...is clearly not willing to engage.
Other than shaming these schools which will amount to nothing until they lose all their tax exempt status and funding, congress has to start doing what it has the power to do and that’s cutting off funding. Period! Do it and stop talking about it!
For WHAT exactly?? FOR WHAT?? Free speech forever. Don't like it ? Leave America.
@@ortho-g9826conservatives only care about their speech being free. They are more than happy to silence dissenting voices.
Why should Harvard care about anything? They have an endowment as large as the national debt. They won’t need another dollar for two or three lifetimes. Our country is rotten at its core and working its way outward.
@@ortho-g9826lol how can it be free speech when they do not let everybody have the same free speech?Oh that is right only free speech for people that agree with you,do not know what America you live in but that is not free speech in my America.
@@ortho-g9826 You MUST Leave America.
Seeing who is running these institutions explains a lot about the state of modern American education.
zionists?
@@pmntl.fIt doesn't matter if it's racist, it matters if it's true
Protesting is what you do on a university it is unacceptable that it becomes violent.
Taking a shot at the leadership here makes you sound like a #racist and a #bigot. The institutions are BETTER because of their leadership. Everyone should feel safe and protected on campus.
Truth is: It is terrible that the indicted Israelí PM (a man) was too concerned with protecting his political future and supported hamas monetarily because he thought it was good strategy politically.
Since your comment is implying women somehow are the problem.🤡
That is also my observation, women-presidents of these elite universities regardless of color, seem to be more biased, maybe because women are more emotional by nature, maternal, easily swayed, I can go on on...or maybe it's just coincidence, sorry. @@White_Breeder
We really need unbiased judges to settle disputes of what really is and what really is not antisemitism. Today many equilibrated and fair criticism about how Israel is collaterally killing thousands of innocent Palestinian and inflicting collective punishment to the Palestine people. Sometimes the cries of “antisemitism” are really in many instances attempts to impunity of illegal acts, from the International Law point of view.
The boards of these colleges needs to meet. Change their rules of harassment AND REMOVE THESE LEADERS OF THEIR INSTITUTIONS.
You're not a good problem solver are you?
@@ortho-g9826 yes he is because the president are breaking the code of conduct the students signed when entering colleges about not discriminating and they are doing nothing about their code of conduct rules.How could some lead a institution when they refuse to comply their OWN RULES.
It seems like a solid solution.
Strange how Stefanik doesn't have a problem with Marjorie Taylor Greene's or Donald Trump's anti-semitism.
@@MonsieurTarzan-g3mwhat are you referring to? Nothing. You failed to blame trump for the known antisementic acts of these lvy league campuses.
These 3 women lead US major Universities - OMG!
Oh man! WOMEN huh? Tell me about it! Gosh! WOMEN running universities??? OMG
From top to bottom. These academic leaders are failing to uphold the standards they have spoken about. Freedom of expression when it adheres to their approved social agendas.
Harvard has returned to the sheep farm it was originally, and it is now a radicalized Potemkin village at best.
Harvard hired Brian stelter. That should remove Harvard’s status as an intellectual establishment.
😂😅😂😅
Harvard also hired Beetlejuice ----- Former Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot (aka, Beetlejuice) will serve as a Richard L. and Ronay A. Menschel Senior Leadership Fellow at Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health.
...and accepted that Hogg kid.
Smack on 🎯
They are completely SHAMEFUL!!! My God!
and, shameless, too. May God help us!
@@RawOlympiaI was gonna say the same…. Absolutely shameless liars. Can’t even answer a question.
More people need to watch this. Only Sky news Australia and Fox have showed ANYTHING
If Communists wanted to accept reality they would stop being Communists. They don't want to hear it and do want to get rid of you for showing them this. Not just the schools but almost all of our institutions were taken over by these people. We tried talking about it and were persecuted. WE are called the bad guys for pointing out how they are the bad guys! It's sick and nuts! LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO PRESIDENT TRUMP!!!
That’s what I’m noticing too, kind of crazy how I can’t find hardly anything but edited clips.
Long video. I’ll sum it up. Calling for the genocide of Jews in college doesn’t count towards the schools discrimination, harassment, and intimidation policy because of context and lack of action or it not being directed towards one individual. Which is all BS and a cover to allow hate you agree with. Also segregation is ok as long as the ppl pushing for it like it. Also BS.
Usually you have a moment of silence for all innocent lives lost in a war.
Yes, that was a disgusting absence from that intro…
Like we do for those lost in 9/11?
Yes!! Couldn’t agree more about biased these shenanigans are!
@@adamneusbaum3749Well… interestingly enough, all of the countries of the entire world are represented in the deaths of 9/11 EXCEPT Israel. No Israelis died in 9/11. Jews died, but no Israelis.
At the very beginning this was done! ??
Whatever these fools are it has nothing to do with education.
Its time to stop funding with tax dollars this is shameful
@1:31:16. She just can't bring herself to say it. It's at odds with their 'values' but it's not against Harvards' code of conduct. Right. It blooodywell should be against the code of conduct at Harvard.🤦Honestly, I think you're objectionable lady. You have lost sight of your sense of values, right and wrong. Sooner than expel those responsible they actually give them a platform instead. It's despicable really.
We are at the tipping point where the left is willing go lower itself to antisemitic propaganda. They are eating themselves.
But it's not against Harvard's policy. She as the others were just supporting the place that they work in. "Doing the job" . Y is she being given the most criticism amongst those who said the exact same words.
@@yolondatheodore7694 That's exactly the problem! Harassing Jews should darn well be against "the policy". But it's not. Not an ounce of common sense!
@@yolondatheodore7694 And the nazis "were just doing their job" too. Once you start normalising discussions/speeches about genocide, that's a problem.
@@yolondatheodore7694 "But it's not against Harvard policy"
It's called being a decent human being.
Shame on those two ladies in the back no respect to the speaker .
What the hell are you talking about?
They're actually disruptive ..using the cell phone during the moment of silence, dumb facial expressions, total lack of respect
@@Aspengirl-hl4ws The black lady has no clue what is going on, she is in her own world.
What did you expect of her, they get away with this
Absolutely disgusting! They should be fired immediately. All these yrs we've been living under hate speech threats for MISGENDERING, Or using certain language that someone else considers "hate" and now they refuse to condemn this? All those students should be expelled and or deported!
There was NOTHING for those presidents to condemn. Students have, rightly and courageously, been calling for a ceasefire, for an Intifada (an armed uprising against oppression, like in France in WWII) and for a Palestine/Israel to be liberated for all people from the river to the sea. Democracy.
This is the result of women being in charge. Hahahahaha
@@timothywalls6918 What was? Accusations of tolerating antisemitism based on no evidence whatsoever? I think plenty of men have that scam sewn up.
I wish CNN, BBC and other news channels broadcast this hearing on their prime time.
They seem more concerned about islamophobia than anti Semitic hatred they are supposed to address.
I’m a paralyzed veterans as well as a history professor, I deal with discrimination just about every single day.
That’s the Qatar money going to work.
@@Hgcfdghjjvvcisrael is not apartheid is democratic , even a moslem arab can be idf and judge in israel.
@@Hgcfdghjjvvc Israel is not an apartheid state it has 30% Muslims In universities doctors lawyers nurses teachers in Congress on the Supreme Court. Some of the Muslims volunteer to the IDF . There are over 20 Muslim countries. are there any Jews anywhere in Congress or universities? Muslim countries are apartheid. Where are all the Jews from Iraq Algeria Iran? No Jews anywhere in Muslim countries. Before you call Israel an apartheid you should educate yourself. Why don’t you go look up what an apartheid means because Israel is definitely not But I could say that about all the Muslim countries
@@mocopaitwhat does your statement have to do with the the OP? She never said that wasn't the case. Just made it clear that people are fighting for freedom of religion, but a political movement that is based in exploration, genocide and colonization. Read a book, it's better than trying to sound smart on the net.
@@bigoliveconsciouskingdom8183 you dont get it?.
The standard is pretty simple here in the United States and other Western countries
Take all the negative s*** that's being said remove Israel from the speech and replace it with black people and see whether or not it's okay
I guarantee you that same speech or speeches having the words Israel replaced with black people would not be okay it would be immediately labeled as hate speech and the event would have been shut down
This country is run by people barely qualified to pass paper wrapped food through a window
Agree
What about Jewish privilege?
@@ortho-g9826 what exactly is Jewish privilege please explain
@@chopperchuck Jewish privilege is 400+ Jews in the Biden administration in key positions even though they constitute 2-3% of the population. Jewish privilege is 30+ standing ovations by Congress for Israeli President Herzog during his last visit to America. Get the picture?
A society that doesn't know, recognise or acknowledge the difference between the CONSTITUTIONALLY GUARANTEED RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH, and LICENSE, is of a neccessity, bound to be in continuous turmoil.
Wrong.
A society doesn’t know that colleges have a code of conduct that students signs that say they will not discriminate,so they can spout all the racist crap they want off campus but not on campus learn the rules.
Free speech = hate speech ?
a license is not a right. You don't even know the difference between an unalienable right v. license.
well Upenn dont defend unlimited freedom of speech,see the "Water buffalo incident" . Neither does Harvard,see how they revoked the admission of few students who had past racial comments surfaced...
The reasons to defund goverment funding for education out in the open. They are completely amoral.
Must be nice to just ask for more funding when you’re not doing your job because you’re a coward who can’t stand up to a bunch of 20 yr old students.
It is not that they are cowardly instead they are silent enablers.
Fire all three stooges
The indoctrination I received for my degree is ridiculous
But you were intelligent enough to rise above it. That's why my grandson is at a small private college. No politics.
@@theresaburdett1054 I'm glad you found a stable medium!
@@legendofman12 My children did for their sons. South African varsities are really bad and full of politics and learning is continually disrupted. Our grandsons found a small private college which is cheaper than varsity and are doing brilliantly. Both one finished and the other busy with Bsc IT. The oldest one was the winner of best design for the Web page. He now works for an American company from home. Leaving for UK on Friday. The younger one just finished his first year.
Malcolm X Self educated. Said know the difference between an education and a Indoctrination".
I am yet to see Islamaphobia protests or videos of any of it, maybe being in another Country might be the reason, but I've seen 100s of videos of Jewish citizens & students being harrased and bullied and assaulted. So again where are the Islamaphobia videos? 😮
I’m in the US, if they had such Islamophobia videos it would be blasted all over the media…..yet nothing. Same with other leftist groups, the LGBTQ claim they are being attacked and genocide committed against them daily…..yet the only case they continue to reference is a real crime from the 80s of a gay man killed in rural America. Not saying that in a country of 330 million that there aren’t a few bad apples, but a lot of what are media claims is blatantly false. I imagine our propaganda rivals North Korea.
3 Palestinians college students were shot in Vermont. You didn’t know that?
@@rommyaznaran9508The media hasn't made it known as much.
It's only free speech if the threats and insults are being directed at people with pale skin. It's not "harassment." They're DEATH THREATS.
If its directed at bown or black people, it's a crime punishable by jail time, job loss, and or dismissal.
Israelis are quite brown if you ask me. So don’t worry.
@@jilpok1074I have to say that I really don't know if they do or don't. They look pretty much like I do, I suppose. I couldn't identify a Jewish person if I had to. They don't bother me so maybe I've never felt the need to take note of identifying characteristics if they have any.
@@exeterline1930 hmm…you can’t have it both ways buddy. Your first statement clearly defines that you see a difference between brown and whites. Now. All of a sudden you don’t see color…? Hmm
Why don't they lose their jobs or is Arab money supporting them.
I did not see anything antisemitic other than peaceful protest on campus... Clearly the country is controlled by you know who😂😂😂
Hundreds of millions go to them from the Middle East and China - it’s a fact
@@phd_stats6186that Asian student who made death threats to Jews .. look it up
Exactly follow the money
Who's going to fire them?
This is a very scary hearing. If you know, you know.
My heart goes out to Miss Gay.
@@yolondatheodore7694 do you still feel that way now with the new plagiarism info?
I see the problem, nothing but bunch of karens in charge
One can assume that auditory comprehension is a mandatory skill one has to possess in order to attend these schools, let alone run them.
Also, one would have assumed that the dean of Harvard would have known that simply saying "I answered your question", does not really mean that she answered the question.
The 7th of October was a catalyset for the exposure of all the darkness that spread in every corner of the world, and for us to fight against it
All these universities should be fined at the very least.
They are, in a sense. Several Jewish billionaires have withdrawn their contributions in response.
Why so many Jewish billionaires are dumping money into public universities is another matter, though...
@@ButtSolutionThese are not public universities. They are private universities. The Palestinian kids were present at my public university in 2006. These government leaders are simply uneducated on Israel/Palestine.
@@ButtSolutionexactly for this reason.. to control the discourse and academia as they need..
@@ButtSolutionChina and Iran as well. Tell the whole truth
@ButtSolution they absolutely have been. It's being discussed in congree. I watch A LOT of congressional hearings. They have deals with universities who have accepted millions from Arab countries including IRAN.
If you’re in America you have no right to act against another individual for their beliefs. Leave the conflict in the Middle East and be kind to one another regardless of beliefs. No group in America that claims it actually faces persecution here.
Which is exactly why you don’t flood your country full of other people. It’s suicide in many ways, especially since their problems follow them here
That's a lie in it's purest form.
Except the Jewish students trapped in the library by protestors and had to be rescued via the back door.
@@amarisimpson1506 which part, the self victimization that runs rampant in our country?
@@theresaburdett1054 I’m saying those instances should never happen, protesting loses credibility when it involves harassment or intimidation
I'd like to know where this Democrat congresswoman actually thinks that there's brilliant minds in front I love her because quite frankly I heard nothing but rhetoric coming from these people just appease the people asking questions because they're afraid of losing their Federal funding and their tax exemption
Like most University administrators, they will say what is needed to support one another, regardless of how disgusting the dialogue is, with the goal of hiring one another when their terms are up. Its only about ensuring they can move onto the next position, surrounded by sycophants. The Board of Governors, or similar body, must fire these clowns and deal with hate speech pragmatically and quickly, within the boundaries of state and federal law, and University policy concerning hate speech should mimic these laws. This is not about freedom of speech, at all.
Just make sure that the whole world sees these videos. Post them wherever you can. We want people to know what is happening with these schools and especially these worthless Presidents.
@@Hgcfdghjjvvcmoral values should not depend on what "other" majorities stand.
Yes we want Russia, China and Iran to know so they are able to better manipulate and adapt their deceptive messaging? Maybe, maybe not 🙄
I feel sorry for parents who have kids at Harvard or upenn, their kids are done for
Everybody should not support sports on colleges who loves HAMAS .
Do you condemn IDF for all its terrorism among the people of Palestine? Hamas is controlled opposition by IDF.
@@jackstiles458Why?
@@jackstiles458 IDF and Hamas are both evil . 👿👿👿
@@jackstiles458 What the hell? The IDF didn't take visitors from all over the world hostage and kidnap them at the Oct. 7 music festival, hamas did it
@@fuckccp8637 Israel still has to answer for the attacks on 911 and USS Liberty.
To find out who rules over you. Simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize
this comment is laughable if it is implying what I think it is.. Turn on the news right now and you will see endless criticism of Israel. If what you are insinuating is that Jews themselves are not criticized, well then, Jews should not be criticized on behalf of a government that does not represent and is not supported by a plethora of Jews.
1:40:51 >Allen important part> 1:43:16 Kornbluth MIT , answers with a Freudian slip at 1:44:06 "I have to say when we started this protest Umm when the protest rather was started..
1:45:05 Question: Do either of you plan to suspend foreign students who violate the law or school policies?
I don’t know what you are saying but I know for a fact that mit president is pro Jews. She is being told what to say and how to say not to get the university in trouble but she is definitely is pro Jewish
Did any of you know that Hamas leaders sitting in Quatar have billions in the bank. Around 4 billion each. This is money meant for the people of Palistine. They live in the lap of luxury, send their daughters to varsities but forbid girl children to be educated past around age 12. The gardens, fruit trees and vegetables Jews left behind in Gaza when they were removed were destroyed and water pipes for the gardens were dug up and used for bombs. Gaza could have been so different.
Fire these fools. These people should have been fired 20 years ago or never have been hired. A disgrace.
Thank god harvard board voted against these anti semitism bs.
How about the chick in the back right after the moment of silence 00:34. This unbelievable amount of disrespect is appalling and a fear our future will have to deal with.
?
I noticed.
Yes. I saw that she was laughing...
What was up with that
You mean the white chick and the black chick?.
Unfortunately we have too many people in leadership positions who can't lead.
Soulless managerial automata never do.
It is absolutely amazing how these uni presidents do not see the that inability to call out the speech used to be just what it, hate and anti-semitism and that their students have every right to say that they are not feeling safe on their campus. The actions of their students are appalling and should be denounced. It’s like they are afraid to see or hear the truth or reality right in front of them.
so you all now agree with the "safe space" idea.great. Like with everything republicans finally come around to an idea only after they feel effected personally. Until then it's F U not my problem
To become a university president it would appear 'diversity', a biological female, a lack of understanding (including English language), are the main requisites.
I'm horrified, and I used to march for and advocate for Palestinians. (I stopped when they elected Hamas. They could have had statehood instead.)
When an organization allows a opinionated culture to dominate its ranks and willfully embraces a one sided view of culture ,society and reality it reflects that bias at all levels of its institutional framework. Driven by a penchant to embrace ideologies that are contrary to the very fundamental principles of freedom of speech the institution will ultimately ingrain those ideologies at the highest levels and eventually will exhibit a deep lack of clarity in its ability to represent itself in a manner worthy of its founding principles and in addition worthy of those who have played key roles in building that institution over decades. These women are representative of the very simple adage that they each most likely know all to well by heart! " POWER CORRUPTS AND ULTIMATE POWER CORRUPTS ULTIMATELY!" They have gotten to the point where they can accept the idea that advocating murder against a group of people seems acceptable within their institutional framework and they got caught with their intellectual pants down proverbially as they themselves in their own seemingly smug words informed us of their thinking!
When a person’s education outpaces their intelligence, they become an intellectual.
No they become a PHD!
EVIL
Damn
when people that dont have enough education and under pace their ignorance ... they become you and your followers?
@@titusp9488Why did my words offend you?
This is precisely what you get with affirmative action.
This is why higher education in the US is such a shit-show. Goddam the whole stinking mess.
Quite frankly the questions should be presented to any democrat congress man or woman you do understand you have members in your party that has said anti-semitic things to and nothing is being done about that because the Republicans don't have the vote to kick their asses out of office the simple fact is a Democrat would never vote to kick one of their own people out but they will vote to kick a republican out of office
Is this English?
pretty sure the last guy kicked out was a dem. look it up and post your retraction HERE ________________________________________________________
If you speak English, it makes sense.
REMEMBER HOW Marjory TAYLOR GREEN THOUGHT "JEWISH SPACE LASERS" WERE ATTACKING US? LOL
DID YOU KICK HER OUT FOR ACCUSING OUR ALLY OF ATTACKING US?
I am so happy I am non educated
Saddled with a bunch of student loan debt and no marketable skill, you too could be as bitter as most of them are
1:46:00> Wild
1:47:42 "I think of College of the place where we learn to think critically"
Well I'm sorry to tell you this Miss Wild but many students of the latter/current generation will say that they are NO LONGER being TAUGHT HOW to think but WHAT TO THINK.
& Those insane hateful and even violent protests are just 1 symptom of that decline.
The overall quality of (higher)Education system has gone downhill for years and the reason why it urgently needs to be changed !
And sadly this phenomena is not happening only in America but in almost every College and University of all Western countries !
The amount of antisemitism and hate Muslims are allowed to propagate all while crying the victim is disgusting
Allow jewish and Muslims go to colleges and school in peace. Also, allow transgender people to have the same respect . That is the message.
Donations to institutions of higher learning can be safely made to HILLSDALE COLLEGE instead of Harvard, Columbia, University of Pennsylvania and all the others.
I would like to also question the moral mind set of the board members of these schools. Presidents are hired by the board! I would like to point out that most wars are at the hands of the rich and powerful. We need to start holding our leaders responsible and corporations responsible for what is happening in the world. If there is a failure to society it will be at the hands of our leaders and rich.
However in this public hearing they've managed to make it about getting ride of and blaming a black female for Harvard's age old policy.
What does their opinion about Jews, and Israel, have to do with education? It’s like politics and religion, it’s a personal opinion, it is separate from education itself!
They all said that Israel has a life to exist. But did not address whether it has a right to exist as a Jewish nation
Jayapal’s physical appearance makes my stomach hurt 🤢
Harvard won the rhetoric award
Hate speech and free speech are 2 polar opposites
Wrong.
what about hate speech against hate speech?
Emptied headed platitudes mean nothing. Define Hate speech and then explain how it is not covered by freedom of speech.
Where are the male presidents? Where's the diversity?🤔😑😑😑
This is three people, lil bro.
Black, female and last name is Gay. Perfect resume for President of Harvard. Checks all the boxes.
“CONDUCT MEANING COMMITTING THE ACT OF GENOCIDE?”
I too was wondering what that their unanimous, orchestrated, weird answer meant.
Does there need to be a conduct for anything to be considered a crime?
Is chanting for bringing back the enslavement of black people in America also allowed on campuses as long as one doesn’t enslave a black person? Can one shout the N word on campus streets and keep one’s job as a staff member or position as a student?
An adult coming on to a minor is also speech, is it also not criminal sexual conduct? Is THAT allowed on campus grounds or in American law?
all three of them MUST go. Such a disgrace all three schools.
The guy quoting Genesis 12 says it's talking about Israel, not Abraham.
Then he complains about lack of Biblical literacy.
God help us.
The President of Harvard “HEARD” of intifada. No more questions asked. Fired!
These kids should be protesting for the US to promote peace in this region not supporting one group or the other. Attacking one group isn't going to solve the problem but create more problems.
Colleges should pay especially the ivy league school with all the endowments money they receive from donors not tax payer money to combat the hate and thier socialist ideas
?pay what?
After watching this hearing it confirms that I need to push my son into a trade and away from college. Its outlandish that genocide of a race or religion is not considered violent or harassment. Its sickening and people like this should not be in a position of power especially of our impressionable youth.
Yet when Institutions where students are mostly black in the School. Fèderal money isn't equally given. Civil Rights were supposed to help us as a group in America has it?. Do ppl on the planet or this panel care about the feelings of us not feelings safe too?.
Make universities great again
Too late.
Never happen without the Bible & its God.
1400 Js were unalived, 14,000 Palestians women & babies and still counting were unalived. Yet you want to talk about students protesting about the war crimes being commited against palestians are you people for real. They have a right to say THIS IS WRONG and if it hurts your feelings then maybe you should tell your fellow Js in Israel to stop the genocide on Palistine
I’m really disgusted. These people are just the tip of the rotten iceberg.
Remove government funding for colleges that allow such antisemitism practices
Will there be a hearing for other Colleges an Universities where these same issues are just as rampant too? Like NYU for instance. Please Feel free to post any others in a reply to me Also names of Colleges/Universities in other Western countries. Thx
virginia tech, I think, where marchers were chanting "Jews will not replace us" those were right-wing neonazis though, so you may have already mind-erased that one.
No not if they don't have a black female for President.
The teacher on antisemitism is SPOT ON!!! More of these courses are needed as much as fresh air
Hmm...Chutzpah?
“Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves.”
― Confucius
Bowman shouldn’t have a platform. Shame!
UN = HAMAS, QATAR = HAMAS, HARVARD = HAMAS, MIT = HAMAS
Is Free Palestine only Hamas ?
@@PrettyGoodLookin
Tell us what is a Palestinian and who founded them?
@@solvingpolitics3172PLSTN is a region in the Near East inhabited continuously for well over 1000 years by an indigenous group of people we call the PLSTNans.
Following an international wave of nationalism in the early 20th century, this group lobbied for national recognition by contemporary global powers.
@@yessum15you're describing transjordan
@@SingleMaltBuckeye The odd thing is that I see multiple references to the name "PLSTN" in the documentary historical record dating all the way back to 400BC. Odder still, these same indigenous group self identify as PLSTN people.
As such, we must conclude that PLSTN is indeed the name of this particular region that exists within the larger geographical designation of "Transjordan".
When in doubt, it is generally a good idea to defer to the opinion of the indigenous people. Particularly if it is backed by a documentary trail of primary historical sources.
The dumbing down of America
These are evil preditors...God have mercy on us
*predators. Doesn’t your phone tell you when you’ve misspelled something?
YES EVIL MONSTERS
I’m pretty sure these people watch American news but aren’t watching 2 months of videos showing mass murder of Palestinians.
Are they aware of something called “Social Media?” If they are aware how in Gods not so green earth could they keep all those investments in Zionist Israel?
Are they aware of “Not in Our Name” & “ Rabbis Against Zionism?”
Grow some America!!!
The Qatar funding is showing!!!
🎯🎯🎯🎯
I really respect the committee who opened the event with a moment of silence for the victims of October 7. But something bothered me. Why does the moment of silence not also for the 20,000 victims in Gaza, including 8,000 children. They are also humans with souls.
Here is over 5 hours of testimony that few people have actually watched. What people are responding to are 10-20 second exchanges out of context meant to provoke outrage among Conservatives (mostly)... which is admittedly easy to do.
By design. The outcome says a lot 2023.
TODAY IS THE JEWS, TOMORROW ALL CHRISTIANS.
"Please dont spend 4 minutes speaking".. as they proceed to speak for 4 minutes straight.
Exactly hows that equal or fair process.