Full Sheet Rips with the Dash-Board Portable Workshop
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- Quick overview of our setup for making long rips with your track saw off the side of the table. This includes a pair of Outriggers with Rip Stops (which become the fence and set the dimension of the cut). Rip Stops sold from September 2023 are ONLY compatible with the current Outrigger. There are also 6 Universal Track Stars and a pair of our SpiRail Dogs. Two Track Stars are installed on the end of the table to position your guide rail, two are installed on the front of the table to support the workpiece, and two are available for the back side of the table to support wider sheets and allow installation of our Unparalleled Parallel Guides when you're using them as the reference for dimension. Outriggers support the workpiece, guide the Rip Stops, and provide a multipurpose platform with 20mm holes. This arrangement can be modified for use on most types of tables with side-mounted tracks, including those you build yourself, the Festool MFT/3, and Kreg. It is agnostic with respect to rail brand; you only need to select the correct variety of SpiRail Dogs if you use the Bosch/Mafell rail.
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Still researching before I purchase the bundle and bench. I am assuming everything here is included in the Platinum Bundle (sans the bench of course)?
That’s right. Thanks for asking, and you’re welcome to email other questions to info@dashboardpws.com.
Can you do mitered rips or will the blade hit the table?
Bevels up to 45 are no problem in 3/4" material.
Can the rail hinge be used, in replace of the track stars, for long rips? Or is it too much stress on the hinge assembly?
Technically yes, but I've only known one person to do it in about 5 years. I can't recommend it because that will put a huge strain on a relatively small assembly, what with the leverage generated by a super long rail. There's also the head height you'd need to fully raise the rail. However, if you rigged up some intermediate support, like a bungee cord with a hook, so you could lift the rail just high enough to clear your workpieces, it might be fine.
With the rail “off the edge of the table”, would that affect the quality of the cut as opposed to having some MDF or at least foam behind to mitigate splintering on the back side.
Seems that if the MDF tops were elevated above the aluminum frame, that would allow a sacrificial backing for a rip cut.
Maybe a strip of MDF could be mounted in the channel between the table and the outriggers?
Thanks for your comment. Our tops are baltic birch plywood and our entire philosophy revolves around the idea that it's bad practice to cut up a bench top. For crosscuts we provide a dedicated area with a replaceable cut strip.
About foam, its softness provides no backing that would hold up against splintering and is commonly used only to keep a blade from cutting either the floor or a work surface when someone is using a non Dash-Board bench.
Regarding the Long Rip setup where the cut line is located off the edge of the top, since the blade is pulling up into the wood, there's no splintering on the bottom of the material and it needs no backing. This may not hold true for melamine.
Can you get the folding rip stops for pre 09/2023 outriggers? Are the wood outrigger tops available as well?
The Platform Retrofit Kit is available to add a top to an older Outrigger. We’re going to offer another upgrade kit to allow use of the new style Rip Stop as soon as possible this fall.
Can we get a tape measure sticker for the rip gauge?
What happens if you need a rip cut wider than the stop length, like for example a 35" wide rip?
Beginning with a full sheet, I’d set the Rip Stops to 13”, leaving 35” on the table. Sound ok?
@@dashboardportableworkshop Thanks. That's what I figured, but it assumes the two sides are exactly parallel. If they aren't exactly parallel, the subtraction method could be off. Can the system be used to make the opposing sides of the sheet parallel to start with. I know I'm being a bit pedantic with this thought experiment - I'm trying to explore the outer bounds of what's possible. I'm very intrigued.
@@kdietz65Shouldn’t matter. First thing you should do is rip a thin piece from the factory edge, now you have a reference that everything else is relative to. I’ve done this countless times.
@@5280Woodworking Thanks. He understood my question. Of course you rip a thin piece to create a reference edge, my question was more along the lines of what do you do after that? The stop measuring system they have isn't long enough to do 35" so that was the gist of my question. We discussed this in the other threads here. You might say, well, if you want 35 why not start with 48 and subtract 13. But not so fast. That assumes the off cut edge is exactly parallel to the reference edge. That's even harder to do. Now you've gotta cut your reference edge, then make a 48 inch rip cut to create a parallel edge, then make a 13 inch rip cut to leave a 35 inch off cut.
@@kdietz65Ah I see, yes you are correct you can’t use the stop. I wasn’t even thinking in those terms having done this recently (34” rip). I just ripped the factory edge off, measured both sides with my square from this new edge, hooked up my track to the trackstars and ripped. Apologies for missing the stop detail.
Starting with a 4x8 sheet and assuming no good factory edges, is there any dimensional cut that you CAN'T do with this system? Can you rip any arbitrary width from 0" to 48" and cross cut any arbitrary length from 0" to 96"? I know of no system on the market that can do that *easily* and maintain truly square cuts. I suppose parallel guide systems could get close, but you're relying on setting two devices to the exact same setting (a problem you point out in your videos). Even the largest table saw with extension tables and infeed and outfeed tables would be difficult to do without resorting to tricks, and would be too big for a small garage. I'm talking about consumer-purchasable equipment, not industrial equipment. It looks like your system could do it. There might be a problem with the worst-case in-between dimensions, like a 36" wide rip (half way between 24 and 48).
Like in our cabinet build video, I think the easiest thing is to first trim a long factory edge with it overhanging the Outriggers. After that, spin the sheet and use stops on whichever side of the blade you need. It’s intended mainly for cut dimensions that would be typical for casework rather than anything imaginable, but for the marginal things you suggest it would in some cases be better to use two benches connected side by side for a really big surface and more variation in stop placement. About crosscuts, the new Super Track Star Plates plus Outriggers do allow any width up to 49”. Please see the video about that. What’s particularly nice about our approach overall is that you don’t need to struggle with keeping any section against a fence while cutting like with a table saw, since the sheet doesn’t move during a cut. Thanks.
About ripping any width from 0 to 48, for wider dimensions it would be about setting the stops to what you want removed rather than what you want to remain, at least if you’re only using one bench. I hope that makes sense. I know it’s unconventional.
Thanks. I did watch the video about cross cut lengths. That was helpful.
@@dashboardportableworkshop I get ya. I know standard cabinet depth is about 24", so that's easy. Heck, even my tiny little DeWalt DWE7485 can make a 24" rip as long as you have good infeed and outfeed. But a standard desk depth is 30" not 24" and that got me thinking about what if I wanted to build extra-deep drawers or cabinets that matched the depth of my desk. That would require a 30" rip cut and that might be harder to do.
This video shows another way to use our F2 to accomplish wider cuts:
ruclips.net/video/bl9hGCQ6dAA/видео.html
Alternately, using the Super Track Star Plates on Track Stars mounted off the back of the bench, and attaching parallel guides to those, the maximum setting is 30.5". We're thinking about a longer Rip Gauge to allow setting those that far back. They're pretty costly so the decision to stock them for a fairly limited need is tricky.