When I domino my panels, i set the the height flush with the top of the dash board, this gives the domino more reference surface than just the edge of the plywood and speeds up some too, as easier to keep domino perpendicular to work. FYI from a dash board owner! I'm loving the wingman! Looking forward to it being available!
I have been waiting for a comprehensive video like this to show all the ways to use the system. Thanks, this is fabulous! Really helped me figure out all the ways I can use my Dashboard gear!
This is the first time I’ve seen this style of set up that seems worth it. I understand the use of an mft on the job site but so many people promote the use of using it as a primary work system in a shop which seems slow and limiting compared to a table saw and properly tuned miter saw. Especially because they generally do not have the capacity to handle full sized sheet goods and the seems very wobbly. I do built in work for a side income and this seems perfect for someone like me who doesn’t have the space or funding for a huge slider or cabinetry grade cnc for cutting out cabinet box components.
Thanks, Jon. Another benefit for anyone who lacks a large workspace is that to rip an 8' sheet you only need about 10' of total space, since only the saw moves, rather than needing 8' in front of a table saw and 8' behind it to do that.
Rob it would be great if you could go into more detail about the set up process for the operations shown above. The video was great and sold me on the purchase. Now I would love some detailed instruction for Dashbaord Owners and maybe even prospective purchasers detailing the set up process for the various operations in the video above (e.g. setting the location of the Track Stars in the rail, how did you square up the stops when you did the shelf pin holes. What I could use now is more instructional content as a dashboard owner trying to tech himself wood working from videos - Many Thanks this system is genius !
Michael, Here's the tutorial about using the USBs to set up rails/Track Stars for crosscutting and ripping off the edge. ruclips.net/video/pi_wSDoLsRg/видео.html We do plan more videos about everything and should have those out by the end of this month. Everyone is welcome to contact us through the site for answers to specific questions until then. Thanks:)
Excellent example video that is very informative in it's own right in building a solid cabinet. I'm excited to see Dash-Board make my workshop more enjoyable. I actually ordered a few items to complement my ShopSabre CNC as well, so we'll see how that works out...like you said, thinking about things maybe you haven't 😉
Very well put together video Rob! And the dashboard system seems like a great system. Loving my track saw so a table setup like yours would be very handy
Thanks very much! I spotted your review of the Bosch saw and am grateful for your mentioning of the plastic strip that's removable for using the saw with various non-Bosch rails. Just got the corded one for shop use here and I hadn't realized that aspect, which will be super handy.
Rob, excellent demo of the various components of your system! Very helpful to see. A couple of questions: how are your fences attached to the side rail of the workbench? Can casters be added to the workbench? Thanks.
Thank you very much. You could replace the levelers with casters but you'd lose most of the stability. If the concern is moving it around I recommend building a kind of skateboard with swiveling wheels for one end. You'd lift that end onto the scooter and then drive it from the other end to some different spot.
Perhaps the thickness of the blade thickness tongue on the rip gage need to be adjusted individually depending on the width of the teeth of the blade and also the individual wobble of the blade.
Wingman attaches to the Outrigger, which has a significant range of height adjustment where it attaches to various tables, plus adjustable feet to make leveling easy.
Your system looks wonderful. You show cross-cutting a full sheet with a Wingman. Is there a way to do that with Outriggers and Track Stars? If I had the system I would be using it to break down plywood in my unconditioned garage before bringing the pieces down to my basement shop for further processing. I just finished remodeling my kitchen and I wish I had had your system prior to starting my cabinet builds.
The Wingman mounts on Outriggers and was in part designed to allow the 48" crosscut. It's needed to get that much width between the Guide Rail Brackets or Track Stars.
Given your reply about the Wingman, that would put my shopping cart well over $4000. I'm reluctantly going to have to skip the purchase and continue to use my Paulk workbench which I was going to toss out. Simple cost vs. benefits review.
☆☆Before you comment... I know I could go to the website and add everything to my cart and try to figure it out!!☆☆ Does anyone know what a setup like he is using in the video would cost? I'm trying to decide if I want to invest in this system and would like a general idea of what everything together would come to.
It's a novel combination of things used here for the demonstration. You're welcome to contact me directly about specifics and check the site. www.dashboardpws
In this video starting at 7:56 you'll see how the Rip Gauge is used for that. Keep in mind this is a year old and Outriggers AND Rip Stops have changed since then but the concept is the same. More of this is on Instagram (@dashboardpws). ruclips.net/video/UXT0KCBRObc/видео.html
The only thing that keeps occurring to me as I watch the workflow is, it feels like it would be a huge convenience if your dust hose ran vertically to the ceiling, and similarly, after each cut, you could just, like, reach up and hang the saw on some kind of hook over your head. It may not be a huge issue, but I feel like as smooth as the use of the bench is, it's clunky to have to find a place to set the saw down, move the hose, set up the next cut, find the saw, put it on the track, move the hose into position.... If the saw/hose assembly went up/came down from overhead, I think it would reduce a lot of that. How to implement that, I surely don't know!
It's a challenge for sure. We'd need a longer hose and I think ultimately I might be reaching farther to set down and pick up the saw if it were higher because it would need to be somewhere outside the area where a user is moving material around.
Brian, We have a ready supply of the 4x8 version here and have not worked with the 5x5s, but I think it'll be fine, depending on the size of the parts you want to cut, how the accessories are arranged, and your reach. Give me a shout through info@dashboardpws.com if you'd like to discuss it in more detail.
We're a young company and things like that are pretty tricky to get right. Since tapes are rarely precisely alike, I prefer the "One Tape" philosophy, where you'll use a single tape measure for every aspect of a particular job to keep measurements consistent. Also, the genesis of our system was sitework, portability, and repeated setting up/breaking down, so with our fences, for example, there's no need to fiddle with rechecking a scale every time you start. However, as many of our customers are now home users, too, with permanent bench setups, we're dipping a toe or two into the idea of a scale on at least the F2.
Rob after you trimmed off the factory edge, did you flip the board over placing the trimmed edge against the two track stars with a parallel guides to make the first board cut around 7:05 into tape. RJS
I’m still a bit confused Rob (I confuse easy). The piece left on the table after the flip and subsequent cut would have two clean parallel edges. The piece you moved to the sawhorse would still have one factory edge. Love the product and our backgrounds are similar. I’m a designer and spent six photographing cycling progessionally. Great job following your passion.
WOW ! Very expensive system I thought festool had that market snaggled, don’t get me wrong I have a Lotta track saws track and tables, It just seems really slow and impractical for trying to get anything done am I wrong
Rick, The goal here has always been to provide a system of components that allows a user to perform a wide variety of tasks with a minimum of equipment, using a portable platform that can be set up essentially anywhere. Many people don't have large workspaces with permanent setups for multiple, stationary machines and surfaces that they can easily flow between for maximum speed. A lot of our customers are moving away from table saws for safety or other reasons and our design enables that for many applications. I'll never be the one trying to tell you that you can give up your table saw or chop saw if you'll just buy our products; every situation is different and for some things a table saw is the way to go.The point is to reduce the need for those things as much as possible. I developed all this initially for just myself as cabinetmaker/installer. I worked mainly alone, meaning I had to load/unload/setup/breakdown/reload ALL my gear by myself every day during site work and the idea was to reduce what I had to carry without losing capability on the job. Sure, this is a different approach from what a lot of people are used to. If you plan your processes it becomes quite efficient and changeovers are quick.
I don't even make cabinets but I still watched the entire video and it was better than netflix. That is a bad azz system!
Thanks, Garry! Much appreciated. The parts seen here are all upgraded by now, and everything is even better as I write this in September '24.
I bought this table and I recommend it to anyone, it is very practical, forget about buying square track, this table does almost everything
When I domino my panels, i set the the height flush with the top of the dash board, this gives the domino more reference surface than just the edge of the plywood
and speeds up some too, as easier to keep domino perpendicular to work. FYI from a dash board owner!
I'm loving the wingman! Looking forward to it being available!
I have been waiting for a comprehensive video like this to show all the ways to use the system. Thanks, this is fabulous! Really helped me figure out all the ways I can use my Dashboard gear!
More videos are coming in June.:)
This is the first time I’ve seen this style of set up that seems worth it. I understand the use of an mft on the job site but so many people promote the use of using it as a primary work system in a shop which seems slow and limiting compared to a table saw and properly tuned miter saw. Especially because they generally do not have the capacity to handle full sized sheet goods and the seems very wobbly. I do built in work for a side income and this seems perfect for someone like me who doesn’t have the space or funding for a huge slider or cabinetry grade cnc for cutting out cabinet box components.
Thanks, Jon. Another benefit for anyone who lacks a large workspace is that to rip an 8' sheet you only need about 10' of total space, since only the saw moves, rather than needing 8' in front of a table saw and 8' behind it to do that.
I have an mft, it doesn’t just seem wobbly, it is wobbly!
This is your best video, outstanding, thank you. You don't need a table saw or miter saw.
Thanks, John. Those machines have their places but we've done our best to make them as little needed as possible.
Rob it would be great if you could go into more detail about the set up process for the operations shown above. The video was great and sold me on the purchase. Now I would love some detailed instruction for Dashbaord Owners and maybe even prospective purchasers detailing the set up process for the various operations in the video above (e.g. setting the location of the Track Stars in the rail, how did you square up the stops when you did the shelf pin holes. What I could use now is more instructional content as a dashboard owner trying to tech himself wood working from videos - Many Thanks
this system is genius !
Michael,
Here's the tutorial about using the USBs to set up rails/Track Stars for crosscutting and ripping off the edge.
ruclips.net/video/pi_wSDoLsRg/видео.html
We do plan more videos about everything and should have those out by the end of this month. Everyone is welcome to contact us through the site for answers to specific questions until then. Thanks:)
Fantastic video Rob! I hope you do more like this! I shows how all the tools interact with each how and it gave me more ideas I want to try!
Thanks, Jason. We'll be working on more of these practical videos in the coming months.
Great video, Rob. I can already imagine how it's going to simplify building my projects. I'm not going to miss my table saw.
Great video! That really helped explain the whole system. Love the “pro tip” on the shelve!
Glad you enjoyed it!
A great rip gauge. A modern versatile story stick.
Thank you very much. It's super handy.:)
Excellent example video that is very informative in it's own right in building a solid cabinet. I'm excited to see Dash-Board make my workshop more enjoyable. I actually ordered a few items to complement my ShopSabre CNC as well, so we'll see how that works out...like you said, thinking about things maybe you haven't 😉
Very thorough. I appreciate the amount of work involved in making a video like this.
Thanks very much. It did take forever, but now we're about to make another version.:)
I look forward to the new version. I got so many good ideas from this one.@@dashboardportableworkshop
Pleased to see your products being used to build something. I only own your guide rail so far but hope to own more in the future.
Amazing system you have created.
Thanks, Sean.:)
Fantastic video Rob, I was definitely waiting for this, it’s nice to see your whole system in action.👍🏽
Thanks, man! How's it going over there?
Why isn’t this in the Dojo yet?!?
great system. thanks. i dont regret getting it
Your system is awesome.
Thank you!
Love the name Wingman!
Brilliant!!
Awesome Rob, can't wait to watch start to finish (and get my bench in to the shop in Dec I hope heh).
It looks like we're on schedule.:)
@@dashboardportableworkshop Good! Would it be useful to start shipping the accessory packs out first if they are available?
Very well put together video Rob! And the dashboard system seems like a great system. Loving my track saw so a table setup like yours would be very handy
Thanks very much! I spotted your review of the Bosch saw and am grateful for your mentioning of the plastic strip that's removable for using the saw with various non-Bosch rails. Just got the corded one for shop use here and I hadn't realized that aspect, which will be super handy.
@@dashboardportableworkshop It's amazing being able to use on multiple tracks - very good idea from Bosch! Happy new year to you 🙂
If you wouldn't mind adding your comment to the Bosch track saw vid itself I'd really appreciate it! Helps the old algorithim apparently 🤓
Great Video. It's nice to all the features of the system brought together in one video. When is the Wingman going to be available?
Hopefully by the end of the year.:)
Rob, excellent demo of the various components of your system! Very helpful to see. A couple of questions: how are your fences attached to the side rail of the workbench? Can casters be added to the workbench? Thanks.
Thank you very much. You could replace the levelers with casters but you'd lose most of the stability. If the concern is moving it around I recommend building a kind of skateboard with swiveling wheels for one end. You'd lift that end onto the scooter and then drive it from the other end to some different spot.
how you managed to align the shelf pin holes after rotating the piece 180 degrees is a bit of a mystery to me
They were just centered so it was simple.
nice video
Thanks
Is your domino machine set on the narrowest mortise setting?
Awesome system. I really appreciate the insights from a professional cabinet maker.
Stephen,
Thanks for your comment.:) I make one narrow and one wide, and I was using 6mm dominos on that project.
Perhaps the thickness of the blade thickness tongue on the rip gage need to be adjusted individually depending on the width of the teeth of the blade and also the individual wobble of the blade.
We offer the Rip Gauge with three tab thicknesses to account for 1.8mm, 2.2mm, and 2.4mm blade kerfs.
Aww I wanted to see how those cabinets came together with the dominoe
Thank you for staying until the end. We figured the video was already quite long, so the assembly process seemed like the prudent thing to leave out.
Great! Are there an adjuster on the bottom of the Wing man in case of an uneven floor?
Wingman attaches to the Outrigger, which has a significant range of height adjustment where it attaches to various tables, plus adjustable feet to make leveling easy.
Your system looks wonderful. You show cross-cutting a full sheet with a Wingman. Is there a way to do that with Outriggers and Track Stars? If I had the system I would be using it to break down plywood in my unconditioned garage before bringing the pieces down to my basement shop for further processing. I just finished remodeling my kitchen and I wish I had had your system prior to starting my cabinet builds.
The Wingman mounts on Outriggers and was in part designed to allow the 48" crosscut. It's needed to get that much width between the Guide Rail Brackets or Track Stars.
Given your reply about the Wingman, that would put my shopping cart well over $4000. I'm reluctantly going to have to skip the purchase and continue to use my Paulk workbench which I was going to toss out. Simple cost vs. benefits review.
3 Questions: When will the Wingman be available? What will it cost? Can it be used to replace one of the outriggers?
Sorry, you already answered the 3rd question.
Availability should be late spring, possibly sooner. Cost is still TBD. We're a small company and are moving as quickly as we can with development.
☆☆Before you comment... I know I could go to the website and add everything to my cart and try to figure it out!!☆☆
Does anyone know what a setup like he is using in the video would cost?
I'm trying to decide if I want to invest in this system and would like a general idea of what everything together would come to.
It's a novel combination of things used here for the demonstration. You're welcome to contact me directly about specifics and check the site.
www.dashboardpws
Like $6-7k. You can basically get yourself entry level sliding table saw for less money, if you don't care about portability.
Can you show how you used the Rip gauge to set up the rip stops? Thank you
In this video starting at 7:56 you'll see how the Rip Gauge is used for that. Keep in mind this is a year old and Outriggers AND Rip Stops have changed since then but the concept is the same. More of this is on Instagram (@dashboardpws).
ruclips.net/video/UXT0KCBRObc/видео.html
The only thing that keeps occurring to me as I watch the workflow is, it feels like it would be a huge convenience if your dust hose ran vertically to the ceiling, and similarly, after each cut, you could just, like, reach up and hang the saw on some kind of hook over your head. It may not be a huge issue, but I feel like as smooth as the use of the bench is, it's clunky to have to find a place to set the saw down, move the hose, set up the next cut, find the saw, put it on the track, move the hose into position.... If the saw/hose assembly went up/came down from overhead, I think it would reduce a lot of that. How to implement that, I surely don't know!
It's a challenge for sure. We'd need a longer hose and I think ultimately I might be reaching farther to set down and pick up the saw if it were higher because it would need to be somewhere outside the area where a user is moving material around.
Would this work well for 5x5 sheets of baltic birch plywood, or are they really too wide?
Brian,
We have a ready supply of the 4x8 version here and have not worked with the 5x5s, but I think it'll be fine, depending on the size of the parts you want to cut, how the accessories are arranged, and your reach. Give me a shout through info@dashboardpws.com if you'd like to discuss it in more detail.
Why did you not put a scale or a way to add a measure tape to these tools?
We're a young company and things like that are pretty tricky to get right. Since tapes are rarely precisely alike, I prefer the "One Tape" philosophy, where you'll use a single tape measure for every aspect of a particular job to keep measurements consistent. Also, the genesis of our system was sitework, portability, and repeated setting up/breaking down, so with our fences, for example, there's no need to fiddle with rechecking a scale every time you start. However, as many of our customers are now home users, too, with permanent bench setups, we're dipping a toe or two into the idea of a scale on at least the F2.
Rob after you trimmed off the factory edge, did you flip the board over placing the trimmed edge against the two track stars with a parallel guides to make the first board cut around 7:05 into tape. RJS
Yes. Every time. Apologies if I didn’t make that clear.
I’m still a bit confused Rob (I confuse easy). The piece left on the table after the flip and subsequent cut would have two clean parallel edges. The piece you moved to the sawhorse would still have one factory edge.
Love the product and our backgrounds are similar. I’m a designer and spent six photographing cycling progessionally. Great job following your passion.
Professionally.
How much does all that stuff cost ?
I am surprised that you are able to get a well supported 90-degree Domino base on the edge while making mortises on the face of the ply.
I normally use one of the various "feet" you can buy to add that stability to the Domino. It wasn't handy when we made this video.
WOW ! Very expensive system I thought festool had that market snaggled, don’t get me wrong I have a Lotta track saws track and tables, It just seems really slow and impractical for trying to get anything done am I wrong
Rick,
The goal here has always been to provide a system of components that allows a user to perform a wide variety of tasks with a minimum of equipment, using a portable platform that can be set up essentially anywhere. Many people don't have large workspaces with permanent setups for multiple, stationary machines and surfaces that they can easily flow between for maximum speed. A lot of our customers are moving away from table saws for safety or other reasons and our design enables that for many applications. I'll never be the one trying to tell you that you can give up your table saw or chop saw if you'll just buy our products; every situation is different and for some things a table saw is the way to go.The point is to reduce the need for those things as much as possible. I developed all this initially for just myself as cabinetmaker/installer. I worked mainly alone, meaning I had to load/unload/setup/breakdown/reload ALL my gear by myself every day during site work and the idea was to reduce what I had to carry without losing capability on the job. Sure, this is a different approach from what a lot of people are used to. If you plan your processes it becomes quite efficient and changeovers are quick.
same capability as a sliding panel table saw, way cheaper, and more portable! Think of it as MFT on steroids ! Also, i own two!