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I am still looking forward to The Losers Generation making a movie about Os4ma and Hitl3r not being so bad... just miss understood quirky guys.......... so we can all feel even more useless losers as a society.. witch is exactly what we need ¿Right?..... Fu%^ck Off Film!!
That Dave grouhl reference was kinda harsh, yea he had a child out of wedlock but at least he didn’t lie about it, and besides Dave has done a lot of good things that outweigh his bad
I was on The Joker crew. When we were doing it, i didnt know if it was going to click with audiences. It took a lot of chances and did so with a modest budget. Glad people took to it. Good video as usual mate!
You’re an animal. Thank you for so many phenomenal breakdowns back-to-back, and of course just in time for penguin and joker 2. You, sir, are a staple in my RUclips diet. Cheers
The clock time seems inspired by the "10:08 rule" in which the clock time is smiling. At 11 not only makes it distorted to the side but implies a "running late to laugh", just like Arthur does at the comedy club.
Also, it looks like it's the same angle as his painted on crooked smile and also-also it may be the angle he holds his arms at when standing on the cop car, but that might be a bit of a stretch! Ba dum tss!
just so that people know those stairs are located in a bad part of the Bronx and people have been mugged trying to recreate that moment so don't do that
16:34 That ties into NYC 1981 too. People talk about a big sanitation strike where garbage piled up-looked it up, it lasted a few weeks, 100,000 tons of trash filled the streets
Alex Baldwin told the story of why he dropped out on Howard Stern it wasn't a scheduling conflict. He wanted to change the script and not punch Arthur in the face probably because he wanted to change his image after punching a photographer on the street. Todd Phillips refused to make the change so he quit.
As a native Bronx resident, please don’t come and dance on the steps. The steps are super active with people trying to get home and your little fantasy to be the joker will literally get you jumped.
@@mattcliburn oh I agree but at least when Paul makes mistakes he admits that he's wrong or fixes them before airing them Mt doesn't even bother or acknowledge them
This movie has so many layers. I appreciate them all, as well as many interpretations and theory's (ITS THEORY TIME) . As a struggling veteran going through some of my darkest days, this movie resonates and at times hits nerves and/or cuts deep. Love it
Dude, excellent, excellent Roland Barthes call-out! Having been through more graduate school than a person should ever go through, I sometimes think all that schooling was useless, but here all these years later we get a death of the author call out. So great. Roland Barthes is the man!
Would say for the Thomas Wayne being Arthur’s father, I think that is real. Penny and Thomas would have probably had an affair but seeing that that can tarnish Thomas reputation, he would rather cover that up and say it’s not real to avoid tabloids talking about it. And when he meets Arthur in the bathroom, he thinks it’s just paparazzi trying to get a scoop while they are alone so Thomas wants to give an autograph to call it even and move on
So insightful Paul, and I really appreciate how you help fill in movie and split screen moments. With your Joker critique, I really enjoyed the 11:11 countdown perspective. Now I see that, I cannot not see it. A few ‘personal’ add-on observations, having belatedly seen this movie and also recently read the screenplay. Apols to you and all if this been flagged elsewhere … A few screen cine-seconds hit me: • With the support worker around (5min), the ‘drugs’ and ‘depression’ posters just above Arthur’s head seem to ‘shout’ at us/viewers. • A few shots later, Arthur walks to a pharmacy. There is a vibrant ‘drugs’ neon sign. • (23 mins) when he is following Sophie (Zazie Beetz), a street sign prominently says: ‘One Way’ and points left. Arthur walks right. • There seem to be too many random yet maybe planned moments when Arthur deviates or turns from a vibrant, clear ‘EXIT’ sign. While these 'Exit' moments seem strong, they weaken as the story unfolds, as Arthur devolves and Joker's persona takes hold. • For example: o (32 min) - after the subway shootings Arthur (a fleck / speck) runs up and directly through an ‘Exit’. o (40 min) - Going into the comedy club. There is an ‘exit’. Arthur slow turns just before it o (55 min) - A sign on the hospital door says: ‘Exit only’. Arthur walks straight into it from the wrong direction. Yes, ‘Entrance’ is clearly marked and seen by us but this word is on the ‘other side’ and would NEVER be seen by those coming that way - by those who already knew how to enter the hospital, a healing space. o Additionally, the cop says out loud as Arthur crashes into the 'Exit' door from the wrong direction: ‘It is exit only’.” o (100 mins) - We are in a place where the crowd in the theatre and us the viewers could in theory go ‘out’ through the prominent ‘exit’ sign hovering around Arthur. However, Arthur is seen walking IN and through it from the OTHER direction. o (108+ mins) multiple ‘Exit’ neons abound. Arthur is initially near them and ultimately runs past them. o Thereafter, once Arthur has morphed into Joker, there are not EXIT symbols. My takeaway is that beyond the script, the film team have maybe layered in 'symbol' moments highlighting when and where a character could change course but chose not to. Who knows?
One thing I noticed and I didn't hear mentioned, was the way Joaquin Phoenix runs in the movie... he has a particular gate when he runs with his big clown shoes on but if you watch he runs the same way with regular shoes on . I always thought that was interesting.
It's noticeable that he's just called "Joker", as is the movie (in contrast to "The Batman" or "The Penguin"). He's often called "The Joker" in other movies, but not here. It could mean this is not the definitive Joker, not The Joker, but a version of Joker. When Randal gave Arthur the gun, he tells Arthur, "You can pay me back later"... quite the foreshadowing. My reach is the pre-mortem line: "You get what you fuckin' deserve", spoken twice before significant killings. It could be a reverse of "He's the hero Gotham deserves" of The Dark Knight. If Batman is the hero Gotham deserves in The Dark Knight, then in this Gotham city, a toxic society that crushes the underclass, and shows no empathy for the downtrodden, Joker is the villain Gotham deserves. As for the "You wouldn't get it" line, the Joker has had some 4th wall breaking powers. The joke could very well be on the audience, which the psychiatrist wouldn't get (she's just a character in a movie). We just watched a movie where we're meant to hate the Waynes, and cheer for Joker. It's a Batman movie, where the Joker is the main character.
In the scene where Randall gives Arthur the gun, the camera work and Glenn's acting make Randall seem somewhat ominous or dishonest (IMO). It adds to the ambiguity. Cool observation about the Dark Knight, as well! I wouldn't be surprised if it were true. Todd Phillips originally wanted to give Arthur a glasgow smile, so he (Todd) has clearly seen _The Dark Knight._
I believe that the kid who plays young Bruce is the same one shown in the picture of Arthur when he was abused, in the file. That would bolster the brother argument. Also, when Arthur is standing on the car at the end, he takes that same pose as a famous picture of Satan with his right arm up and left arm down like Jacks old picture from the Shining.
Try brushing your teeth with your non-dominant hand for a week. Your brain has to make some adjustments as it creates new pathways, which is similar to what's happening to him writing with his left hand.
This movie really blew me away! I pushed back on it hard because i loved Legers Joker so much but after watching this i felt like such a dummy for not seeing it on the big screen
I dont know if anyone has pointed out when he gets on top of cars after accident. I always thought he had awkward arm position but if you look real careful, his arms look like a clock pointing to 11:11
Yep, I thought that as the numbers counted down from scene to scene, that HE was ONE. He's the only one you really notice, he's one, now that his fantasy girl, his mother, everyone is gone now. He's the one that the police and America is looking for, etc...
Batman makes a cameo. In the beginning when Arthur is putting on his make up and carrying. I t the reflection the wall in the back looks like a big Batman face !
I love it !! What a great breakdown/review just before part 2 comes out. Can’t wait for it. I wonder if Phillips will ever lighten up his stance on deleted scenes and extended cuts?? He seems to regret a few things related to this movie. Stuff that would’ve been cleared up with a deleted scenes montage as part of the blue ray.
Philips did a scene breakdown of the intro (for Vanity fair) and he mentions that Arthur himself pumped the flower because in his twisted mind he found the attack comedic
The laugh part can manifest temporarily as a response to trauma. My grandfather suffered from this for several months after my grandmother died, though it eventually went away. (He also suffered a stroke around that time, which probably didn’t help matters.)
@erikfinkel2717 It's insulting to the audience's intelligence to assume they missed anything no matter how obvious or if the poster screws up. I immediately just thumbs down and don't watch anything with that in the title anymore. This is the only one that cared enough to listen.
Yelling fire in a crowded theater. Will you or MT do Higher Learning one of these days. I want to heard yalls take on it. Especially Tyra Banks line about using your brain and not your fist. Thanks.
Everyone makes the mistake with the woman from the train. Look at the hand when they are in the cab. It's a man's hand. I thought it was the woman, too. But that hand is twice the size of hers.
I watched Joker again after viewing this video. Firstly, I noticed that it does appear to be a man's hand. Also, this person seems to be larger than the other two people seated on their left. If Arthur is seeing himself on a date with Sophie who refers to the killer as a hero, how much more of a stretch would it take to have his cake with her and eat it too with the woman from the train? Hot women in admiration... Not truly. Joker is showing Arthur what he wants to see and finds it hilarious that Fleck can't tell the difference. That's not a woman in the cab, and he isn't dating Sophie.
@@SemmyMa There is definitely a duality. Joker calls it a joke diary. Arthur calls it a journal. Joker writes and handles the gun left-handed. Arthur is right-handed and covers his mouth when Joker laughs. Joker removes it with his left, but covers it again when Arthur tries to speak. Over the course of the film he becomes less Arthur, more Joker. Especially when he goes off the meds. It's a fresh take on the clown Prince of crime. A character study for sure.
I also think the clocks being set to 11:11 is a nod to how clocks are often advertised in this way, and one of the reasons for this is it’s similar to the clock ‘smiling’… and ya know, it’s Joker and that
at 8:42, Joker is standing with his arms in the 11:11 position. Did anybody else notice that? With the camera angle his right arm looks shorter like an hour arm on a clock.
He could have been adopted AFTER his mother was sent to Arkham, which might make sense (newer certificate etc.). Maybe he didn't even have a name at that point. Watching it though, I did assume the adoption version was the 'true' one. I thought the flickering lights were linking to him getting closer to blowing a fuse. I thought Sophie was 'dealt with' as the scene after he's in her apartment, there are sirens (clearly not given the deleted scene).
Left handed kids would often get their left arm tied to their body, so that they would learn everything right handed. Lots of stories about Nuns beating the living hell out of left handed kids.
If I'm not mistaken i believe that initial comedian before him (tall fella long hair) is a comedian in real life and like arthur (ITS ALL CONNECTED) also suffers from drastic and serious mental health issues.
Paul love the video! Not joker related but are you breaking down From soon or waiting for the episodes to drop to make one long ending video? It came out last week and releases every sunday!
The 'gestalt', for want of a better term, dictates if someone is thinking about something, others will be acting it out at the same time in the left feild.
You get a thumbs up for presenting us with proper and correctly prefaced 'the hospital' opposed to the ignorantly dumb just 'hospital' So great job Paul
The carer was Beatrice Klugh, an Other from Lost. Thomas Wayne was Goodwin Stanhope, another Other. Lost is celebrating its 20th anniversary. The most recent Penguin trailer shows Pierre Chang, the Dharma guy from Lost. ITS ALL CONNECTED
I don’t think it’s either. It’s the stop. Like 6th Ave. but they left off the Ave. That’s how it is on NYC subways. The stop name sign is at the top and on both sides of the support columns so that when you’re moving past them in the train as you arrive, you can catch a glimpse of at least one of them to let you know if it’s your stop.
2 things about the bus scene with the lady and the card- 1. First time I watched this movie I thought the lady was overreacting big time to Arthur making her kid laugh. But thinking about it now; combine sketchy city, a location that’s not always safe, and a man you don’t know interacting with your baby especially when you’re not in a position to actually keep an eye on them, she had the appropriate reaction 2. I’ve always loved the detail on the card and how worn out it is. Makes it so much more believable that he keeps it in his pocket or wallet and maybe even some people manhandling it a bit to mock him
I like if he’s Bruce’s half brother because they could then have shared mental illness, Bruce could have NPD, dude dresses up as a bat and thinks only he can save Gotham, it’s interesting.
The Leto Joker movie could have went through, because Phoenix's Joker it was never clear or definitive that his Joker was the same Joker that exists in Batman's time.. especially when you consider it has a taking place in the 1980s, while the DCU Batman and Leto Joker is modern times (2010s or so).. Rather one can say, this 1980's joker isn't a super villain like the Joker we know, rather a normal person who merely inspired the Joker that followed, who inspired by the legend of that Joker adopted it as his persona and became the Joker we know that exists in Batman's time.
It’s kind of funny and Batman begins where Thomas says Gotham’s been good to our family And then that one, Thomas basically says those of us who made something out of our lives will always look at those who don’t as clowns All he made out of his life being born It’s really out of character
I think you got his laugh meaning wrong. He only starts to laugh when he is scared. As throughout the film he laugh less and less as he start to build more and more courage. The opposite meaning happening with his dancing, as we see him dance for the first time after killing the subway bullies and again later when he enters the talk show. Then once again at the end after possible killing the doctor.
I like that it's explained that The killing Joke is canon and that the reason the joker is crazy is basically because he was part of a fracture across the multiverse by a variant of The main DC Joker
Came home from bar been a lil drinking heard the warn a brother joke a realized how elite and much of a staple that is for Paul also I spit out my salad cuz I was laughing Btw Paul still waiting on a dark knight rises breakdown I’ll continue saying it until It haunts u in your dreams and u make btw really good video
What I like about this movie so much is that it’s a movie about a villain and they don’t make him the good guy. Sure you come to understand and can even sympathize with him, but he’s still the bad guy.
I don’t think he’s imagining I think he’s remembering He probably saw the picture of the Wayans laying on the ground in the newspaper That’s the image they show when he says you wouldn’t get it Which makes me believe that he knows he created Batman and Batman put him in Arkham asylum That’s why he appears to be in his 40s remembering something that happened to say 20 years ago If Batman was 10 years old or even eight, he would’ve been Batman for a couple of years 28 when Joker was 42 or 43 Just a theory
40:04 Wait, what? "And thus the meme was born"? The meme was born long before this film. The line originated from a Seinfield episode, and was later attributed to the joker in 2015, and proliferated with joker images after Snyder had Joker use it in the trailer for Justice League. But many (including myself) used it jokingly, long before...because Seinfield. This movie might have revived it, but it was around decades before this film. Seinfield was the originator of many one-liners still meme'd today.
Anyone notice that when he's putting on his makeup for the last time in the movie that it's not around his mouth like batmans cowl but his is white while batmans is black. The difference is black and white
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It isn’t a real HS video if Ryan Aery’s Mum ain’t mentioned.
I am still looking forward to The Losers Generation making a movie about Os4ma and Hitl3r not being so bad... just miss understood quirky guys.......... so we can all feel even more useless losers as a society.. witch is exactly what we need ¿Right?..... Fu%^ck Off Film!!
Sigh 14:34 - 'Actress.' Not ''Actor'' when its a female there. +
Those rats were also put into the movie to hint at another villain - the 'Ratcatcher' from DC's rogues gallery.
That Dave grouhl reference was kinda harsh, yea he had a child out of wedlock but at least he didn’t lie about it, and besides Dave has done a lot of good things that outweigh his bad
I was on The Joker crew. When we were doing it, i didnt know if it was going to click with audiences. It took a lot of chances and did so with a modest budget. Glad people took to it. Good video as usual mate!
Were you involved with the second? I feel personally victimized by Todd Philips hatred of the fandom created by the first film :/
You guys did a good job!
@froggyspond1133 i didnt have the heart to see the new one.
You’re an animal. Thank you for so many phenomenal breakdowns back-to-back, and of course just in time for penguin and joker 2. You, sir, are a staple in my RUclips diet. Cheers
Thank you mate
You dropped a super sweet comment and you didn’t even Warner Brother
@heavyspoilers I'm glad your back ...m.t suck
Came for the breakdown, stuck around anxiously to see how you would sneak in “warn a brother” 😂
The clock time seems inspired by the "10:08 rule" in which the clock time is smiling. At 11 not only makes it distorted to the side but implies a "running late to laugh", just like Arthur does at the comedy club.
Also, it looks like it's the same angle as his painted on crooked smile and also-also it may be the angle he holds his arms at when standing on the cop car, but that might be a bit of a stretch! Ba dum tss!
just so that people know those stairs are located in a bad part of the Bronx and people have been mugged trying to recreate that moment so don't do that
Omg🙄🙄I’m not surprised 😂
Completes the full experience.
Is it a gun free zone?
bros fear mongering so hard
maybe 20 years ago but it’s so much safer now lol
16:34 That ties into NYC 1981 too. People talk about a big sanitation strike where garbage piled up-looked it up, it lasted a few weeks, 100,000 tons of trash filled the streets
Alex Baldwin told the story of why he dropped out on Howard Stern it wasn't a scheduling conflict. He wanted to change the script and not punch Arthur in the face probably because he wanted to change his image after punching a photographer on the street. Todd Phillips refused to make the change so he quit.
As a native Bronx resident, please don’t come and dance on the steps. The steps are super active with people trying to get home and your little fantasy to be the joker will literally get you jumped.
I love this film. It touches me and makes me uncomfortable all at the same time. Thank you for the breakdown!
Do you need to speak to an adult
@@ShadyPlatinum777 Probably 😂 i just realized how this sounds LOL!
Loving all these Batman and penguin breakdowns ! Much love mate, never stop these please, they get me thru my days.
Cheers mate, glad you’re enjoying em
@heavyspoilers I'm glad your back...your other guy doesn't do a good job always gets things wrong
@@CerealMilkDVD MT and Paul are human we ALL make mistakes .
@@mattcliburn oh I agree but at least when Paul makes mistakes he admits that he's wrong or fixes them before airing them Mt doesn't even bother or acknowledge them
I really like these deep dive / film theory vids, nice that the channel is expanding out of just current reviews (which are also great!)
This movie has so many layers. I appreciate them all, as well as many interpretations and theory's (ITS THEORY TIME) . As a struggling veteran going through some of my darkest days, this movie resonates and at times hits nerves and/or cuts deep. Love it
Dude, excellent, excellent Roland Barthes call-out! Having been through more graduate school than a person should ever go through, I sometimes think all that schooling was useless, but here all these years later we get a death of the author call out. So great. Roland Barthes is the man!
The Dance Down the starrs resembles also ten things i hate about you, where Heath Ledger dances downstairs
Skip past intro ad > 1:51
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Would say for the Thomas Wayne being Arthur’s father, I think that is real.
Penny and Thomas would have probably had an affair but seeing that that can tarnish Thomas reputation, he would rather cover that up and say it’s not real to avoid tabloids talking about it. And when he meets Arthur in the bathroom, he thinks it’s just paparazzi trying to get a scoop while they are alone so Thomas wants to give an autograph to call it even and move on
So insightful Paul, and I really appreciate how you help fill in movie and split screen moments.
With your Joker critique, I really enjoyed the 11:11 countdown perspective. Now I see that, I cannot not see it.
A few ‘personal’ add-on observations, having belatedly seen this movie and also recently read the screenplay. Apols to you and all if this been flagged elsewhere …
A few screen cine-seconds hit me:
• With the support worker around (5min), the ‘drugs’ and ‘depression’ posters just above Arthur’s head seem to ‘shout’ at us/viewers.
• A few shots later, Arthur walks to a pharmacy. There is a vibrant ‘drugs’ neon sign.
• (23 mins) when he is following Sophie (Zazie Beetz), a street sign prominently says: ‘One Way’ and points left. Arthur walks right.
• There seem to be too many random yet maybe planned moments when Arthur deviates or turns from a vibrant, clear ‘EXIT’ sign. While these 'Exit' moments seem strong, they weaken as the story unfolds, as Arthur devolves and Joker's persona takes hold.
• For example:
o (32 min) - after the subway shootings Arthur (a fleck / speck) runs up and directly through an ‘Exit’.
o (40 min) - Going into the comedy club. There is an ‘exit’. Arthur slow turns just before it
o (55 min) - A sign on the hospital door says: ‘Exit only’. Arthur walks straight into it from the wrong direction. Yes, ‘Entrance’ is clearly marked and seen by us but this word is on the ‘other side’ and would NEVER be seen by those coming that way - by those who already knew how to enter the hospital, a healing space.
o Additionally, the cop says out loud as Arthur crashes into the 'Exit' door from the wrong direction: ‘It is exit only’.”
o (100 mins) - We are in a place where the crowd in the theatre and us the viewers could in theory go ‘out’ through the prominent ‘exit’ sign hovering around Arthur. However, Arthur is seen walking IN and through it from the OTHER direction.
o (108+ mins) multiple ‘Exit’ neons abound. Arthur is initially near them and ultimately runs past them.
o Thereafter, once Arthur has morphed into Joker, there are not EXIT symbols.
My takeaway is that beyond the script, the film team have maybe layered in 'symbol' moments highlighting when and where a character could change course but chose not to.
Who knows?
One thing I noticed and I didn't hear mentioned, was the way Joaquin Phoenix runs in the movie... he has a particular gate when he runs with his big clown shoes on but if you watch he runs the same way with regular shoes on . I always thought that was interesting.
It's noticeable that he's just called "Joker", as is the movie (in contrast to "The Batman" or "The Penguin"). He's often called "The Joker" in other movies, but not here. It could mean this is not the definitive Joker, not The Joker, but a version of Joker.
When Randal gave Arthur the gun, he tells Arthur, "You can pay me back later"... quite the foreshadowing.
My reach is the pre-mortem line: "You get what you fuckin' deserve", spoken twice before significant killings. It could be a reverse of "He's the hero Gotham deserves" of The Dark Knight. If Batman is the hero Gotham deserves in The Dark Knight, then in this Gotham city, a toxic society that crushes the underclass, and shows no empathy for the downtrodden, Joker is the villain Gotham deserves.
As for the "You wouldn't get it" line, the Joker has had some 4th wall breaking powers. The joke could very well be on the audience, which the psychiatrist wouldn't get (she's just a character in a movie). We just watched a movie where we're meant to hate the Waynes, and cheer for Joker. It's a Batman movie, where the Joker is the main character.
In the scene where Randall gives Arthur the gun, the camera work and Glenn's acting make Randall seem somewhat ominous or dishonest (IMO). It adds to the ambiguity.
Cool observation about the Dark Knight, as well! I wouldn't be surprised if it were true. Todd Phillips originally wanted to give Arthur a glasgow smile, so he (Todd) has clearly seen _The Dark Knight._
Smashing his head against the wall like smashing the like button, great quote, totally caught me off guard
I believe that the kid who plays young Bruce is the same one shown in the picture of Arthur when he was abused, in the file. That would bolster the brother argument.
Also, when Arthur is standing on the car at the end, he takes that same pose as a famous picture of Satan with his right arm up and left arm down like Jacks old picture from the Shining.
Baphomet.
Try brushing your teeth with your non-dominant hand for a week. Your brain has to make some adjustments as it creates new pathways, which is similar to what's happening to him writing with his left hand.
Read this first sentence thinking my teeth looked terrible in the video
Unintentional, I swear. It was just the challenge, which can feel a little trippy early on.
Try wiping after a number 2 with your wrong hand. Found out the hard way when I broke my arm. That is a challenge
Keep em guessing @@TroyDann
Wow I’ve been watching so many breakdown videos and you’re the only one who’s ever noticed the countdown. Creepy and notably genius.
This movie really blew me away! I pushed back on it hard because i loved Legers Joker so much but after watching this i felt like such a dummy for not seeing it on the big screen
Same here hope you get to go see the sequel
I don’t want to sound rude but that’s a strange reason to not watch a movie
16:30 I thought I was the only one who caught that; the lady didn't return the card
I dont know if anyone has pointed out when he gets on top of cars after accident. I always thought he had awkward arm position but if you look real careful, his arms look like a clock pointing to 11:11
Yep, I thought that as the numbers counted down from scene to scene, that HE was ONE. He's the only one you really notice, he's one, now that his fantasy girl, his mother, everyone is gone now. He's the one that the police and America is looking for, etc...
Batman makes a cameo. In the beginning when Arthur is putting on his make up and carrying. I t the reflection the wall in the back looks like a big Batman face !
I love it !! What a great breakdown/review just before part 2 comes out. Can’t wait for it. I wonder if Phillips will ever lighten up his stance on deleted scenes and extended cuts?? He seems to regret a few things related to this movie. Stuff that would’ve been cleared up with a deleted scenes montage as part of the blue ray.
Philips did a scene breakdown of the intro (for Vanity fair) and he mentions that Arthur himself pumped the flower because in his twisted mind he found the attack comedic
12:39 The metal spinner on the back of the sign is missing when the kids smack him in the face with it
14:42 I theorized that it’s the moment Joker figured out who Batman is because he was seeing flashes of the Wayne’s murder.
The laugh part can manifest temporarily as a response to trauma. My grandfather suffered from this for several months after my grandmother died, though it eventually went away. (He also suffered a stroke around that time, which probably didn’t help matters.)
26:03 Fun fact: the word "sinister" comes from the Latin phrase meaning "to the left", which is where left-handed got it's reputation for being evil.
Great job and I really appreciate you not putting "things you missed" in the titles anymore. Thank you kindly.
lol why?
@erikfinkel2717 It's insulting to the audience's intelligence to assume they missed anything no matter how obvious or if the poster screws up. I immediately just thumbs down and don't watch anything with that in the title anymore. This is the only one that cared enough to listen.
Seeing Minority Report on the recommended youtube feed at 42:20 is making me really hope you do a breakdown of that movie someday for some reason haha
Yelling fire in a crowded theater. Will you or MT do Higher Learning one of these days. I want to heard yalls take on it. Especially Tyra Banks line about using your brain and not your fist. Thanks.
Great breakdown! Another thought on the flower in the alley scene, it is over his heart and appears to be spurting like he was just shot in it.
“ Phoenix play dark phoenix eh?” Nice one lad 🤣
the flower in the alley also looks like he's been shot, kinda like Batman's parents
Everyone makes the mistake with the woman from the train. Look at the hand when they are in the cab. It's a man's hand. I thought it was the woman, too. But that hand is twice the size of hers.
clearly a dude
I watched Joker again after viewing this video. Firstly, I noticed that it does appear to be a man's hand. Also, this person seems to be larger than the other two people seated on their left. If Arthur is seeing himself on a date with Sophie who refers to the killer as a hero, how much more of a stretch would it take to have his cake with her and eat it too with the woman from the train? Hot women in admiration... Not truly. Joker is showing Arthur what he wants to see and finds it hilarious that Fleck can't tell the difference. That's not a woman in the cab, and he isn't dating Sophie.
So Delusions? So it's a multiple personality situation? That is an interesting take but this is still not the joker story line I wanted.
@@SemmyMa There is definitely a duality. Joker calls it a joke diary. Arthur calls it a journal. Joker writes and handles the gun left-handed. Arthur is right-handed and covers his mouth when Joker laughs. Joker removes it with his left, but covers it again when Arthur tries to speak. Over the course of the film he becomes less Arthur, more Joker. Especially when he goes off the meds. It's a fresh take on the clown Prince of crime. A character study for sure.
27:21 rat?? That looked like a possum.😂😂😂😂
M8 you're bloody unstoppable and I love it 🤘🏻🖤
Jokers arms reads 11:11 also when he stands on the car with the ace in the background.
He could have also crossed out "don't" so the signage read "FORGET to smile"
Did those punches hit as hard as I thought it was that just me?
I also think the clocks being set to 11:11 is a nod to how clocks are often advertised in this way, and one of the reasons for this is it’s similar to the clock ‘smiling’… and ya know, it’s Joker and that
I always thought the ace in the hole was a tribute to ledger who calls Harvey dent that in his final scene in TDK
at 8:42, Joker is standing with his arms in the 11:11 position. Did anybody else notice that? With the camera angle his right arm looks shorter like an hour arm on a clock.
You're the best Easter egg channel
11:10 Batman’s face is in the mirror.
Left in Italian is "sinistra". Yes, the left hand was indeed seen at one time as sinister, or evil.
He could have been adopted AFTER his mother was sent to Arkham, which might make sense (newer certificate etc.). Maybe he didn't even have a name at that point.
Watching it though, I did assume the adoption version was the 'true' one.
I thought the flickering lights were linking to him getting closer to blowing a fuse.
I thought Sophie was 'dealt with' as the scene after he's in her apartment, there are sirens (clearly not given the deleted scene).
If that rumoured ending for Joker 2 is true…. It’s all connected
Don't waste your time watching the sequel.
26:00 the word 'sinister' literally means 'left handed'
Also 'sinistra' is Italian for 'left'.
Left handed kids would often get their left arm tied to their body, so that they would learn everything right handed.
Lots of stories about Nuns beating the living hell out of left handed kids.
This was one of the few things I remember from Latin class.
If I'm not mistaken i believe that initial comedian before him (tall fella long hair) is a comedian in real life and like arthur (ITS ALL CONNECTED) also suffers from drastic and serious mental health issues.
Paul love the video! Not joker related but are you breaking down From soon or waiting for the episodes to drop to make one long ending video? It came out last week and releases every sunday!
Yeah gonna do a big ending video and hopefully get a cast member on
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The 'gestalt', for want of a better term, dictates if someone is thinking about something, others will be acting it out at the same time in the left feild.
All these great breakdowns are welcomed, we’re heavily spoiled
Hello Paul? Keep her lit!! 🔥
Joker is a pure, raw modern masterpiece.
❤😊 last movie I saw in theaters
when i was in middle school we would make wishes on 11:11
You get a thumbs up for presenting us with proper and correctly prefaced 'the hospital' opposed to the ignorantly dumb just 'hospital' So great job Paul
The carer was Beatrice Klugh, an Other from Lost. Thomas Wayne was Goodwin Stanhope, another Other. Lost is celebrating its 20th anniversary. The most recent Penguin trailer shows Pierre Chang, the Dharma guy from Lost. ITS ALL CONNECTED
8:17 this is not a platform #6. This is the #6 subway line.
I don’t think it’s either. It’s the stop. Like 6th Ave. but they left off the Ave. That’s how it is on NYC subways. The stop name sign is at the top and on both sides of the support columns so that when you’re moving past them in the train as you arrive, you can catch a glimpse of at least one of them to let you know if it’s your stop.
That Dave Groul insert is genius dude.
Surprised you didn't touch on the artistic decision to go with the Gary Glitter tune. One of the most infamous talking points.
2 things about the bus scene with the lady and the card-
1. First time I watched this movie I thought the lady was overreacting big time to Arthur making her kid laugh. But thinking about it now; combine sketchy city, a location that’s not always safe, and a man you don’t know interacting with your baby especially when you’re not in a position to actually keep an eye on them, she had the appropriate reaction
2. I’ve always loved the detail on the card and how worn out it is. Makes it so much more believable that he keeps it in his pocket or wallet and maybe even some people manhandling it a bit to mock him
38:53 the famous French dramatist Marc Ma-RŌN
Do a breakdown of The Goonies next plz
Definitely mom was crazy
the like button lighting up every time he mentions it 😂😂😂😂😂
I like if he’s Bruce’s half brother because they could then have shared mental illness, Bruce could have NPD, dude dresses up as a bat and thinks only he can save Gotham, it’s interesting.
I always feel a little ashamed to say this is one of my favorite movies.
Can you breakdown The Conversation? 😳 that movie is amazing
Yeah definitely wanna do it one time
The Leto Joker movie could have went through, because Phoenix's Joker it was never clear or definitive that his Joker was the same Joker that exists in Batman's time.. especially when you consider it has a taking place in the 1980s, while the DCU Batman and Leto Joker is modern times (2010s or so)..
Rather one can say, this 1980's joker isn't a super villain like the Joker we know, rather a normal person who merely inspired the Joker that followed, who inspired by the legend of that Joker adopted it as his persona and became the Joker we know that exists in Batman's time.
What Bernard wants Bernard... Goats?
It’s kind of funny and Batman begins where Thomas says Gotham’s been good to our family
And then that one, Thomas basically says those of us who made something out of our lives will always look at those who don’t as clowns
All he made out of his life being born
It’s really out of character
I think you got his laugh meaning wrong. He only starts to laugh when he is scared. As throughout the film he laugh less and less as he start to build more and more courage. The opposite meaning happening with his dancing, as we see him dance for the first time after killing the subway bullies and again later when he enters the talk show. Then once again at the end after possible killing the doctor.
Thanks for another great video.
Can you please do a review of 'Under The Skin' ?...
I don’t think his makeup was based off gacy. It’s based off the old hobo clown designs pictured in old cartoons from the 40s and 50s.
I like that it's explained that The killing Joke is canon and that the reason the joker is crazy is basically because he was part of a fracture across the multiverse by a variant of The main DC Joker
**Goetz
Pronounced “Gets”
😌😌
Hey man, how are you doing
Came home from bar been a lil drinking heard the warn a brother joke a realized how elite and much of a staple that is for Paul also I spit out my salad cuz I was laughing
Btw Paul still waiting on a dark knight rises breakdown I’ll continue saying it until
It haunts u in your dreams and u make btw really good video
One day I will do DKR and probably pretty soon
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Hey man, Goetz is pronounced like “gets”, as in “sometimes Paul gets the pronunciation of some names wrong”
Loooooool
Going to see this in the cinema in 20 minutes, then coming right back here!
What I like about this movie so much is that it’s a movie about a villain and they don’t make him the good guy. Sure you come to understand and can even sympathize with him, but he’s still the bad guy.
04:18 Paul using his old battle rap word play there .. if you know you know
I don’t think he’s imagining
I think he’s remembering
He probably saw the picture of the Wayans laying on the ground in the newspaper
That’s the image they show when he says you wouldn’t get it
Which makes me believe that he knows he created Batman and Batman put him in Arkham asylum
That’s why he appears to be in his 40s remembering something that happened to say 20 years ago
If Batman was 10 years old or even eight, he would’ve been Batman for a couple of years 28 when Joker was 42 or 43
Just a theory
40:04 Wait, what? "And thus the meme was born"? The meme was born long before this film. The line originated from a Seinfield episode, and was later attributed to the joker in 2015, and proliferated with joker images after Snyder had Joker use it in the trailer for Justice League. But many (including myself) used it jokingly, long before...because Seinfield. This movie might have revived it, but it was around decades before this film. Seinfield was the originator of many one-liners still meme'd today.
This style is what makes you different and beeter than NR
I was hoping you would give some insight on the gunshot discrepancy when he kills the 3 guys
Anyone notice that when he's putting on his makeup for the last time in the movie that it's not around his mouth like batmans cowl but his is white while batmans is black. The difference is black and white
Idk the photos writing looks very similar to her writing in my opinion
surprised you didnt mention he shot 8bullets from a six shooter pistol and you dont ever see him reload the gun
I watch these breakdowns so I don't have to watch the film. Get the film and the synopsis all in one. So good
37:00 Zach has also played The Joker
11 : 11 also could be interpreted as AA:AA, 4 Aces.
It's Freemason/Occult material. AA (Alcoholics Anonymous) founded by a Mason.
Just heated up my chicken Alfredo from yesterday let’s goo!
I hope it was amazing