What's Wrong With Cartier Watches?! Why Don't They Sell?
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- What's Wrong With Cartier Watches?! Why Don't They Sell?
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Price. Cartier were relatively affordable. Now they priced themselves against the likes of Rolex and Omega. They should decrease the price of the ones with quartz movements to make them more affordable like it was back in the days
THIS! Sorry, but im not dropping $4K on a basic quartz dress watch.
The answer to the question. 👏
Omega and Rolex should do the same .
Sadly I don't see this ever happening unless we see a deep global recession , even than not so sure ?😂
@@andhenny2 K might be doable ?
@@julienfroidevaux1143 Rolex would rather melt the watches or keep them in a safe for eternity
I bought my wife a Cartier Panthere just like the one you showed in the video. She absolutely loves it. Buying your wife a nice watch is a great way to share a hobby together.
Been married for almost 27 years. My wife received a Panthere as a gift from her mother while we were dating. She wears it daily and has only changed the battery.
@@Weedandwatches True, show most women a new watch priced at for example 10k they want it, show her the same watch at 4k, used but in as new condition they put their nose up. Women don't really have the same attitude towards money as men, as they so often get money for free so to speak as they get these things gifted. Very few women would sit evening after evening googling watches out of interest, as many men would do.
@@Weedandwatches My Cartier was bought used in 2003. Condition was very good and I could probably sell it for near what she paid.
@@greggcal4583 nice
@@Weedandwatches Well I was not talking about your wide specifically but women in general. And women in general as not like lots of men is with a general interest in watches from a mechanical point of view, but see them as something more than just a shiny object bought new in a shop. So your wife don’t like to buy second hand because they are scratched? Well when stephe buy a new watch from a shop and wear it it will have scratches on pretty soon, so she will have to buy a new watch every month or so to keep up appearances. Personally I don’t see the point at all as I buy the watch second hand, it might have some small hairline scratches but not worse than I would make myself. I think about the resale value, something very few women actually think about. That’s one of the reasons why men are generally richer than women, because men (generally) look at this before you buy something, and compare with what the resale value will be in 5-10 years, if you do that second hand will win nearly every time, well unless you can get hold of a Rolex or similar for retail prices.
99% of the people who want Cartier watches are the kind of people who want them NEW.
Cartier: alot of ladies' watches are gifted. Unless it's vintage or unique, it's hard to gift a pre-owned (used) product to show how much she means to you. "I love you enough to give you sloppy seconds."
Doesn't make financial sense. it's more emotional than logical.
why are women that shallow? do you have mental problems in other shallow ways too?
that's what you get for pre owned 🐱
@@fisnikramadani4147MSRP for an open box item is crazy.
You are total right all my Cartier watches are gifts from hubby.
I just bought the Cartier Santo medium this week and love it. The style and size is perfect for me yet I do think the price is a bit steep.
Excellent choice.
They are an exception in thus case as Santos is an all time classic that will always sell well whether new or pre-owned
I, too, don't understand the hype around bronze watches, similiar to the reasons you mentioned in this video. Great content as always!
It's for real divers not for Federicos nights out at club twist.
Spoken like a true normie
@@dsilva2012 lol
Manufacturers are chasing sales, so they chase whatever is trending, and for a while they were bronzing everything, to see what people might buy. They'll stick a GMT hand onto any watch, for the same reason, whether or not it makes sense. (Federico's Piaget chrono is a case in point.😏)
Bronze looks good with some watches, but not all. The Longines Legend Diver bronze is **chef's kiss**, but there's not a single Tudor that benefits from being wrapped in bronze, and I'm pretty sure the sales figures bear that out.
The hype is that gold is too expensive.
I am an optometrist and am diggin' your specs, Fed!
Agreed
Was just thinking the same thing...first time I've seen a pair like them and they look great
I bought my Cartier Santos at their retail shop in Palo Alto. I like it and wore it to a wedding recently.
Beautiful Piaget. Such an under appreciated brand
I love Cartier. My fisrt expensive watch was a 35mm Pasha C back in 2002. It got stolen about 10 years later. I still haven't bought another Cartier mostly because my syle and life style isnt really a match. When i was younger and was more formally dressed more often it made more sense for me.
Carter watches are fantastic and under appreciated. The quality and build on the santos is second to none. More people need to see these watches in person to appreciate the craftsmanship and build quality. The santos bracelet technology is the best in the market.
@@estatesla It depends. The Santos is pretty good, if overpriced, but the Tank quartz are basically luxury Casios.
I love vintage watches, 30 years ago I purchased a 14 kt gold 1945 Bulova Director tank style watch with all original movement. Had it cleaned once or twice in the last month had some work done on the movement. It is a great watch.
Looooovvvveee that IWC, and also the repeater you sold❤️
My Cartier Roadster is one of my top 3 favorite in my watch collection!
Loved my Roadster, but should never have sold it. I have a Pasha and may trade it for a good Roadster.
@@classicsciencefictionhorro1665 I like the Pasha's too!
I'm lurking preloved for a Cartier tank I like. When I was younger I wanted a Must de Cartier plaque d'or but I couldn't afford it. I'm looking for one still thats in good shape and not stupidly priced.
Agreed on the Bronze
I agree. I have had a Cartier for many years and is brand new. I called a jeweller in Florida- famous watch guy all over you tube. He told me that it would be very hard to sell and did not want to consign.
Your many year old Cartier is brand new? lol.
Love my black bay bronze but everyone to their own :)
Bronze gets a bad rap in part because the patina can look dreadful. I've owned the Tudor BB Bronze Boutique Edition for several years and it looks clean and killer. Why? Because I take time to polish it with a jeweler's cloth and do an occasional effervescent dental tab bath. The result is no patina. The watch resembles a soft rose gold. I love it. One of the best values around.
Bronze can’t be healthy if it leaves green marks on skin. Pointless marketing exercise
Sigh. Bronze can leave a patina because of skin moisture and/or acids reacting to the copper alloy in bronze. Same as any copper or bronze jewelry. It's harmless unless you're inhaling its dust. Tudor uses a non-bronze alloy under the case where it touches the wrist. Instead of copper and tin as a traditional bronze alloy, Tudor replaces tin with aluminum and this alloy is typically used by the marine and aviation industries because of its corrosion resistance. No patina on skin. It's not difficult to get facts straight. @@albertmeyer8983
3:47 Don't you think Titanium is gimmicky? I have a couple watches in titanium and the metal gets yucky unless you keep it polished all the time. I don't care for any kind of high-maintainance watches though....
I enjoy this channel, and love the different watches. That said, I find a lot of the different brands are insanely overpriced for a piece of jewelry that tells time. I have a Marvin M119.13.38.64 that is absolutely beautiful, keeps great time and cost me new, just over $600. I have a Revue Thommen diver bought new that is rated 300 meters with a great burnt brown face. Power reserve, accuracy, water resistance are all great, again about $600. I own a Cartier Santos bought 20 years ago, a Corum Legend and Breitling World Timer too. All said, you do not have to spend a ton to get a beautiful Swiss made watch for too much money. After $5000.00 you are just trying to impress others in my opinion.
My jeweler told me never buy a Cartier new. They aren’t great watches and you have to send them off just to get a battery replaced at $75. I personally love vintage watches from lesser known Swiss manufacturers. You don’t see them on ever third woman at the mall. I think Cartier watches are like LV monogram bags. Aspirational not wealthy owners.
Love the new glasses. Seriously. What are they?
I have 5 Cartier watches, 4 of them being mechnical, and they are all works of art. Unlike Rolex (although I have a couple) who churn out essentially the same watch with different bezel colours they each have a very different design. They have increased in price but what hasn’t?
I get the bronze thoughts but i love my bronze Oris
Yes Fed! Thank you on the bronze critique. I thought I was the only one!
Pre owned Vermeil Must de Cartier Tank sell like hot cakes and new the modern Santos in Medium is super popular but next to that it doesn't particularly sell. The above mentioned are still very good value for money
My wife has 6 Cartier watches and she loves them all I told her to get a Rolex mix it up a little . She did see one in Aruba a couple of weeks ago when we were there on vacation but she didn’t buy it maybe someday she will my point is she loves Cartier .
FYI, the IWC perpetual gets one free "reset" in the event of messing up the calendar.
I used to like high end pieces , and owned quite a few of them during my lifetime, but, at 65, I own NO watch, the only one that I would be interested in today would be a Patek complication in platinum, but cannot justify its cost , so, no watch, I have an I phone to see what time it is worldwide…🤣🤣🤣
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I am DIGGING the frames!
my husband gave me a santos with rose gold and black strap. I LOVE it.
I was obsessed with the bb58 bronze for a couple years, I would stare at it continually until convincing myself not to get a bronze watch. Finally did and absolutely love it. I know they're not for everyone (or most) which is something I also like about it. Gotta buy what sings to you personally.
It's a winner. People prematurely react when not fully informed. My BB Bronze looks as new because I care for it. It's been "mistaken" for gold on my wrist. At 10% of the price!
The reason you can’t sell second hand Cartier watches is because the depreciation is not so bad compared to RRP. Also you can buy from an AD anytime. The moment it’s harder to buy brand new than the second hand watches will fly off the shelf. Plain and simple. I bought a brand new cartier from the AD just £500 shy off the second hand value. Why would you buy second hand when you can buy brand new for £500 more.
I went to Cartier recently to look at and handle their pieces. I was underwhelmed, for the prices they are asking they aren’t worth it in my opinion.
I’d love a Tank or Santos but it’s hard to justify the expense for a watch that would get so little wrist time.
That Piaget looks great on you.
Cartier are elegant pieces, even they’re quartz pieces are iconic but availability at the lower end keeps the price affordable on the 2nd market
Years ago you offered a killer deal on an XL Tank. I regret not buying it to this day 😢
I also don’t like bronze either. First day it looks great but after 24hrs they look soooo bad
Some years ago I was really interested in buying a Cartier Santos but when they increased the prices more than 50% I was out. Guess i wasn’t the only one.
Hey Fed! Love the new goggles!
when you jack up the price of an item during times of inflation, folks have to make that important decision, buy an overpriced watch or feed my family and pay rent......go figure.
Where can I get an older women's Rolex serviced in FL? My mom lives there and my wife and I gave her a watch many years ago that needs a service.
Go to a Rolex dealer
If you overshoot the date on the IWC PPC by even 1 month you must have been paying attention to something else. Also, the first adjustment of the calendar is now done free of charge. Otherwise, good content, congrats!!
I like IWC Perpetual Calendar but they need to fix their movement
Federico, that shirt is AMAZING! Where did you get it?
The shirt is a lady’s blouse 😂
Picked up a great pre owned two tone Panthere for £1.25k on eBay - killer bargains to be had!
I don’t care what anybody says - My Cartier Roadster XL Chrono is very underrated and I get positive comments all the time when I wear it
For women, the shopping for watches and jewellery is often a whole experience. Our main jewellers, will get a number of pieces out, sit me jn the large private room, bring me coffee or champagne .....
But, watches simply don't thrill me. Most of our social group either don't wear watches, or wear a £250 job ..... Who wants to risk a $10,000 watch around horses or at sports event ..... And no-one wears watches with a ballgown.
A core market for Cartier isn't just for women, but *GIFTS* for women; Wives, girlfriends and mistresses generally don't take well to gifts of second hand jewellery... 😅
@@dmoneydmoney6050Good way to end up on the second-hand husband market! :D
What glasses are you wearing? They’re slick!
HMC has the best Perp Cal. movement on the market at the movement. Ochs und Junior is another standout.
Cartier starts 5:22
Wow, that VC Overseas is the cheapest I've seen anywhere!
Hey, Frederico. I have a question. Wich do you prefer, Rolex or Cartier and why?
The thing with bronze is it eventiually tarnishes
Why not make the case from a molybdinum alloy (like the US dollar coin) and it would perform better.
Them Cartier glasses are usually 🔥 tho
No screwdown crown on the tank francaise and santos a lot eta based movements for premium price. The specs should be better.
actuallay iam just starting up; however i would like tohave awatch of 1960 for obvious reasons... what do you think to shoot for? i like patek (duh) but blancpain too
whats up with those glasses?
Miami vice with that t shirt
Look, if you are having trouble moving cartier watches, I'll take them off your hand for $100 each. Hit me up 😂😂😂
They are unique but I own four
If bronze was an aesthetically nice watch metal the industry would have been using it for the last three hundred years.
Hi Fed, another great video. Agreed on bronze. Just not something I'd wear. Also love the new glasses. What brand are the frames?
Not Warby Parker, which is all about misleading ads targeting Millennials/Gen Z for cheap Chinese-made frames.
@@classicsciencefictionhorro1665 I was thinking they are Jacques Maria Mage ....
@@BriarBlues balmain
Are Cartier men's watches, a good deal on the secondary market?
If I dropped watches as often as Del Ray, I would see my doctor
I don't get it.
@@magnasquids7864 I'm suggesting that I drop watches out of my bottom.
Γεια σου Φρειδερικο.....Σε βλεπουμε εισαι πρωτος.Συνεχισε ετσι....οι φιλοι σου απο Ελλαδα
style of them is a bit well OTT like smoking dunhill cigarettes
Watches, worn by gentlemen, sold by second-hand car salesman.
I would buy a second hand Cartier watch for myself, but like most women, I would expect a new one as a gift. I like the convenience of quartz in Cartier watches. I had an automatic Santos, and it would always stop over night when I would take it off even if I wound it before going to bed. Cartier couldn’t fix it. The only automatic watch I have now is a Rolex.
Yes I agree. I feel like we are I. The minority. Quartz all the way for me. I sold my Rolex didn’t care for it. I’m not wearing 10,000 on my wrist either
I thought Cartier is #2 watch brand based on Morgan Stanley report?
It is
Mostly due to sales in Asia I'm guessing.
Cartier are jewelry first and foremost, not timekeeping.
Most of them are Swiss made. Just like most nice watches
Don't mistake YOUR inability to sell something for it being hard to sell. Cartier is A LOT of things. Hard to sell is NOT one of them. You either don't have the right clientele and are in the wrong area(reality) or you aren't buying them right(probably also likely since you aren't in the right area for them turning over). Cartier are a staple in multiple different buying categories. Not just the starter watch and urban markets... But also in the piece unique market with Privee pieces.
Amen on the comment about bronze. Unless it’s aluminum bronze which represents about 2% of bronze watch’s it’s an absolute pass.
I think the Tag Heuer Autavia looks much better in bronze than stainless steel. I have one with the brown dial and love it. I'd be tempted to check out the Oris Big Crown Pointer Date in all bronze, including bracelet. Might turn my whole arm green. But that's about it.
Except for some versions of the Santos, I think Cartier is a tough sell for men's watches. And it wouldn't be at the top of my list to consider for the price. Met a guy wearing a Ballon Bleu de Cartier watch once. It was a nice watch, and I admire the choice as being unique, but that look wouldn't work for me.
Cartier? Valid points! But, also many of their watches are quartz and many enthusiasts really don't buy quartz. Even that might be OK if those quartz watches were substantially cheaper, but the price difference is minimal. $3k for a smallish solar dress watch in steel? No thanks 😊
I noticed that they seem to dislike quartz. I love it. I don’t have to wind it.
@@katemiller7874Yeah, but batteries gotta be changed and they always seem to die at the worst time! It's Ok if you only have a few watches, but if you have many watches the battery powered ones are always the ones that don't work. Whereas the mechanical watches? Pull'em out of the box, set the time, give'em a little wind, and strap'em on! No problem!
All ladies: you better recacle
Most ladies: " recacled watch? Hmm, nah!"😂
What is the brand of yr eye glasses? ( not cartier?)
I agree with you on bronze I always liked the Cartier Santos but don't know if I will ever buy one. Just too many prospects ahead of it
What are these prospects? Just interested in you perspective.
@@a.m.m.4592I been very into Heuer at the moment and the Orfina PD. I collect Heuer divers. 980 026 Coral, Heuer 981.006 Monnin JUMBO case green pvd Heuer 982 006 Monnin JUMBO with the grey pvd. So I'm thinking about adding a Heuer Monaco Calibre 11 for my next piece or a Orfina. I also love vintage Omega designs like the Omega Speedmaster Mark 3 and the Speedmaster Mark 4.5 automatic with the day date 📅
The answer about Cartier makes perfect sense.
Same reason JLC Reverso Tribute doesn’t sell, too expensive for what it is.
Cartier the red headed step child of Patek
The santos is stunning
VC overseas 2nd gen for 11k!!!! That is gonna go fast🎉🎉🎉
Frederico, I love your show. But….Cartier has some amazing pieces. I wonder if you have the appropriate inventory. The Cartier sales speak for themselves.
Why does every question start with the words “hey fed”? Strange.
The ridiculous prices, that's why they don't sell!!
Because if you’re spending that much on a watch, it must be perfect. And rose gold, is unacceptable. Cartier….stock more yellow gold options.
Maybe ladies watches don’t sell as well because the only time they need to know is when my dinner is going to be on the table .
I'm digging that shirt you're wearing - what is it?
Liberty of London
Cheers, I need to do some shopping!
Frederico, you really know watches; you should do this for a living.
No sane man would buy his spouse/girlfriend a second hand watch!
Got my wife a Hublot Blue CeramicBig Bang with iced out bezel and quartz movement. Beautiful jewelry watch that retails for 14K but 50% off pre owned in like new condition. So I think the real insanity would have been paying full retail for it
True! Women prefer new from boutique.
Cartier Lady's watches are probably overly prone to be gifts bought for someone else, are engraved and never really go out of style. Most of them don't hit the secondary market also women don't buy used jewelry because those purchases are mostly emotionally motivated anyway
I love your content, but those new glasses you have on are regrettable.
Federico doesn’t really talk watches, Federico just trying to sell them
I think Cartier men’s watches are one of those brands you are supposed to like, because of legacy and whatnot, but the actual watch isn’t that appealing to many’s tastes, mine included.
economics=matching supply and demand EXACTLY, maybe cartier wants to remain niche AND be possessed by ONLY their target audience
My late mother would never bought used items. ❤
Cartier watches don't sell? LOL They are now in the top 3 worldwide. Maybe you can't sell them but everyone else is selling them like hotcakes.
I feel like Cartier isn't a real watch brand .. it's a fashion brand and their watches are made from cheap movements. The only 2 reasons why it's expensive is the brand name and the materials they put on the case (gold, diamons, etc..)
Their quartz watches are essentially luxury Casios.