Safety first... This is why I let darkside tune my car. I'd rather see genuine safe power, than a big headline figure that will melt an engine. Nice work
I'm still loving the fact you guys are tuning and showing an interest in Diesels. The torque they kick out is ridiculous. standard 4 series 435d has more torque than an M4.
I've had 4 tunned pd130s a3 mk4 golf both stay at 90s but the passat and octavia both while booting it cooled down to 80 cheak vcds and thermostat all good. I now have a touran 1.9 not tunned temps OK but feels alot hotter than the older ones.
Thats primarily because of the emissions. Engines are heavily downtuned sort of say to keep up with emission. Once you uncork that, well, you start having serious potential.
Been looking forward to this video since the announcement in the Passat video. Both very interesting engines and I'm looking forward to see some more about them in the future. Keep up with this awesome content👍🏼
"although the customer weren't interested in messing about too much" they then saw 380HP .....and, OH DEAR power corrupts and total power is cool. Many folk have a long face regarding Audi's use of diesel engines in their "S" cars, personaly I was lucy enough to have an RS2 and yes it was smiles all round apart from 18MPG. Years later I've now got an A4 B7 (I think is the generation) with the 3.0tdi which I am led to believe has a "re-map" on it and I'm often laughing my arse off & 30MPG. AND ONE DAY....( overtime permiting) I'll be coming to use your services gentlemen, 'till then all the best and every continued success and another thank you.
@@RealGX oh I'll need a BIG income increase before any tuning takes place it needs a new clutch, new rear light clusters... new, fuck me the list goes on. Though it has over 190K on the clap'o'meter and is still rolling so I don't want to chance my arm too far. It spews MASSIVE clouds of VAG cancer-death from the exhausts when I boot it which is the reason people believe it's had a re-map though I've not had it on a rolling road to check. Hopefully soon I'll get some overtime/LOTTO win and get it to these good Folk in Barnsley.
So if you wanted to up the power in a safe way, you mentioned the intercooler, if money wasn't an issue what would you recommend to do to the car, size turbo, exhaust intake??, what to do without changing internals
Huge potential? No, well yes maybe. If there wouldn't be any of this emissions crap. He even said it in the video, they are pushed hard straight from the factory. Boost, IAT (100°), EGTs and back pressure from hell because of this Euro 6 cat/dpf/scr bullshit. I bet the back pressure could be measured in Bar. And then imagine what is going on before the turbos, just to get them spooling... rediculous. And all the crap getting past your pistons because of that. The oil is pretty much done after a few thousand kms. Don't believe me? Go ahead and do a oil analysis. Really everything turns to shit.
I've just got the 2020 s4 diesel.my question is have you had any more s4 diesels in? And have you managed to get better or more reliable results? Thanks 👍🏼
Your family of guys , ie the men and women that work for you are something else and I mean that in a good way you make all your customers feel that they are always in safe hands. every time you do a video about tuning any diesel car make all of us fell safe know the you not going to blow are cars up and you do your very best to give us what we won't but in a safe way ...but me personally I can't wait to bring the car I won't to you and see when you can do with ....never stop trying always to do better , as you need me to tell you this lol 😂 but , yes always keep up the good work brothers ...PS I can't wait to see what power you can get out of that A6 you have . It going to be very interesting and mostly it going to be awesome 😊
Man I am dedass bummed the US will never get the B9 S4 TDI… that torque the better mpg… Still love my gas powered B9 S4 but woulda def bought the TDI in a heartbeat if it was available…
@G.Warren have them remote tune your MK7 while it’s on the rollers here in the States. I’ve been trying to find the right A7 3.0 TDI to turn into a comfortable highway monster that will make 11 second passes while getting 40+ MPG highway. Ventilated seats, 11 second quarter mile, 400+ horsepower, and one of Audi’s best looking body styles.
Have you ever tried thermal dispersment coatings on an intercooler on any of your jobs? I have seen them used successfully on some undersized OEM factory a/c condensers in limited available space on some 3/4 & 1 ton diesel trucks that increased the performance of the factory units enough so the problems pretty much went away, except around 116+ F ambient temps?
Hi from Sweden, nice work you guys put overall , great explanations and knowledge 👍🏻. In have one question about new Audi 3.0 (45TDI) engines particularly ones that I have and considering to tune in to stage 1 . Here in Sweden tuners can tune this engine up to 350-360 hp 🤯. What’s your thoughts on that ? It’s this ok with all oem parts or there Is need for more stuff to do ,to achieve this performance, Tnx !!!
Goes anyone realise this enormous 4wd automatic diesel beast weighs well over 2 tons..... Gross vehicle weight is 2375 kgs plus add a driver and a full tank. Drained fluids starvation empty weight is 1810kg... Old S4 V8 was 1720 kgs 0 to 60 5.9 sec Old S3 Turbo was 1455 kgs 0 to 60 5.7 sec
@@DarksideDevelopments Oh god... an educated guess how long this crap will last? 60.000 miles, maybe? Unbelievable... I'm done. I have to stop watching such videos.
@@DarksideDevelopments Maybe it will last the warranty period, if left stock and babied. I don't see these newer cars getting 10, 15, 20 years old. Now way. And then you are right in the spot where they want you to be. Buying a brand new one every few years. For 50, 60,70, 80k. A new A6 3.0 starts at 70k, I saw recently. And then its a hybrid and it got all of this emissions crap. No thanks.
No we fitted the intercooler correctly and fabricated a kit - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/darkside-front-mount-intercooler-fmic-for-3-0-tdi-audi-s4-s5.html
Diesel cars are now over engineered to meet the Euro 7 emission standard. I'm surprised Audi taking this route with the S4. It's still a great/capable car, but I'll stick to the petrol versions, each to their own..👍
I’m very interested to see what more you can do. I’ve had mine 4 months now and am keen to see it launch to 60 🚀 nearer the 3.9 mark but also concerned what it will cost me should any of that ⚡️ electrical stuff go wrong.
@@DarksideDevelopments do you think something like xhp would work for this car? I know people use that on the zf8 in the bmws, I think it should be possible to use it on other zf8 cars
Well a gtb2260vklr will make 300-330hp on a 16v Z19DTH, so I don't see why a modern VAG 2.0 with a gtd2363 wouldn't make around 390hp reliably like in this video. That's right about what I'd expect from a bigger compressor coupled with a 15 year newer engine design.
This engine should be an option on the RS4 given the standard power. 37+ mpg, I'd definitely buy 1. Tragically, this car will never be sold in AmeriKKKa, cuz, AmeriKKKa.....
@@elektrocisti8314 No it isn't, there is a video on youtube doing a direct comparison between a M340d and an S4 TDI, the S4 is quicker 0-100 and 100-200.
What a disappointing and overly complex engine. I don't agree with a diesel getting in an S either and I obviously rate diesels or I wouldn't be here. S cars need to be high revving petrol!
@@murrayhill7309 we don't work in stages and no tuners ever agree what one is. Please email sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk with your reg. and what you are looking for? Thanks
Safety first... This is why I let darkside tune my car. I'd rather see genuine safe power, than a big headline figure that will melt an engine. Nice work
True these geezas look to be putting in the work to see what's the more reliable options.
@I like frogs . Not always.
@@ThePucko97please explain ?
It’s nice to be spoken to as if you’re there, instead of being introduced to every single word. Very refreshing and interesting 👍
I'm still loving the fact you guys are tuning and showing an interest in Diesels. The torque they kick out is ridiculous. standard 4 series 435d has more torque than an M4.
Came for the tune, stayed for the ASMR while he is talking
Sleep inducing...
I’ve seen a few videos of tuners saying how crazily hot Audi’s run from stock. Not just diesels
my old subaru impreza turbos now they ran hot . scary hot thinking engine bay was gonna melt things and burst into flames
Savagegeese video on the audi a8 where they opened the hood they also said they cant even stand behind the open bonnet because its so damn hot
I've had 4 tunned pd130s a3 mk4 golf both stay at 90s but the passat and octavia both while booting it cooled down to 80 cheak vcds and thermostat all good. I now have a touran 1.9 not tunned temps OK but feels alot hotter than the older ones.
Try a UR quattro 20v. They run hot.
Thats primarily because of the emissions. Engines are heavily downtuned sort of say to keep up with emission. Once you uncork that, well, you start having serious potential.
You guys have one of my favorite RUclips channels at the moment. Keep up the awesome work!
Be interesting to find out how the revised setup comes out. The new 341ps has a water intercooler and a better electric charger.
Doing it the right way as always lads. Huge respect.
Stylish edit intro, funky music giving a smooth vibe........reet then....standud car.
Yorkshire baby!!
It has an intercooler!
Ryan P does now. Better for it as well. Just loved the intro and the accent.
48v system starts the engine and can be used when stop start comes in to drive the car for 4 minutes
Thanks
Always that beep comes on on the vlog 😂
I thought I needed to unload the dishwasher when I heard it, then realised it was on a "Darkside" vid HAPPY DAYS.
Been looking forward to this video since the announcement in the Passat video. Both very interesting engines and I'm looking forward to see some more about them in the future. Keep up with this awesome content👍🏼
"although the customer weren't interested in messing about too much" they then saw 380HP .....and, OH DEAR power corrupts and total power is cool. Many folk have a long face regarding Audi's use of diesel engines in their "S" cars, personaly I was lucy enough to have an RS2 and yes it was smiles all round apart from 18MPG. Years later I've now got an A4 B7 (I think is the generation) with the 3.0tdi which I am led to believe has a "re-map" on it and I'm often laughing my arse off & 30MPG. AND ONE DAY....( overtime permiting) I'll be coming to use your services gentlemen, 'till then all the best and every continued success and another thank you.
Forget about tuning your B7 the BV50 turbo and injectors are made of chocolate, better to get a B8 and start from there.
@@RealGX oh I'll need a BIG income increase before any tuning takes place it needs a new clutch, new rear light clusters... new, fuck me the list goes on. Though it has over 190K on the clap'o'meter and is still rolling so I don't want to chance my arm too far. It spews MASSIVE clouds of VAG cancer-death from the exhausts when I boot it which is the reason people believe it's had a re-map though I've not had it on a rolling road to check. Hopefully soon I'll get some overtime/LOTTO win and get it to these good Folk in Barnsley.
We have a B7 in at the moment, I hate tuning those for big power!!
@@DarksideDevelopments why is that ?
@@dieselmats EDC16 ECU is terrible
So if you wanted to up the power in a safe way, you mentioned the intercooler, if money wasn't an issue what would you recommend to do to the car, size turbo, exhaust intake??, what to do without changing internals
Drop us an email!
They made a TDI S4? Straight up maniacs!
All S will be deisel now except 3 I think, which is shocking
Great machine, awesome tunned! good job you guys, congrats!!!
350bhp as standard is good as is but this looks to have huge potential
Huge potential?
No, well yes maybe. If there wouldn't be any of this emissions crap.
He even said it in the video, they are pushed hard straight from the factory.
Boost, IAT (100°), EGTs and back pressure from hell because of this Euro 6 cat/dpf/scr bullshit.
I bet the back pressure could be measured in Bar.
And then imagine what is going on before the turbos, just to get them spooling... rediculous. And all the crap getting past your pistons because of that. The oil is pretty much done after a few thousand kms. Don't believe me? Go ahead and do a oil analysis.
Really everything turns to shit.
I didn't knew that the site from where i ordered s-tronic oil for my a3 had an youtube channel, I subbed! Greatings from Belgium
I've just got the 2020 s4 diesel.my question is have you had any more s4 diesels in? And have you managed to get better or more reliable results? Thanks 👍🏼
We had one come in for a front mount intercooler and custom tune, that did 397.9bhp & 600ft/lbs
Amazing video always so fascinated by the tuning end of things and you keep reminding me of my old Fabia VRS pd130!
And I still have one running as a daily driver ! 👍
Won’t be long till your the equivalent to what mountune is to ford people will be keeping there warranties from darkside tuning 👌👌
And ABT and APR are crap!
Move over ABT an APR DARKSIDE coming through 💨💨💪🏻💪🏻
NutriFIT nutritie si fitnes APR don’t offer warranty in the U.K.
@@DarksideDevelopments I'd like to know why u think APR are crap or was it more of a joke? :P
@@MrZyLeXx We dont get to see much but most cars dont dyno as well as they say!
I use to have the A6 twinturbo diesel 2013, what an beast of an Audi, only if i knew about the 326 hp version of it back then..
Your family of guys , ie the men and women that work for you are something else and I mean that in a good way you make all your customers feel that they are always in safe hands. every time you do a video about tuning any diesel car make all of us fell safe know the you not going to blow are cars up and you do your very best to give us what we won't but in a safe way ...but me personally I can't wait to bring the car I won't to you and see when you can do with ....never stop trying always to do better , as you need me to tell you this lol 😂 but , yes always keep up the good work brothers ...PS I can't wait to see what power you can get out of that A6 you have . It going to be very interesting and mostly it going to be awesome 😊
Man I am dedass bummed the US will never get the B9 S4 TDI… that torque the better mpg… Still love my gas powered B9 S4 but woulda def bought the TDI in a heartbeat if it was available…
I am always amazed when I see “super rare” and TDI in countries outside the EU :D for me a super rare car would be the 3.0 TFSI :D
Brilliant to get the techy detail here
My stateside Mk7 TDI wishes you guys were working on our cars! Its slightly quicker with a Malone tune but I'd like much more.
@G.Warren have them remote tune your MK7 while it’s on the rollers here in the States. I’ve been trying to find the right A7 3.0 TDI to turn into a comfortable highway monster that will make 11 second passes while getting 40+ MPG highway. Ventilated seats, 11 second quarter mile, 400+ horsepower, and one of Audi’s best looking body styles.
Have you ever tried thermal dispersment coatings on an intercooler on any of your jobs? I have seen them used successfully on some undersized OEM factory a/c condensers in limited available space on some 3/4 & 1 ton diesel trucks that increased the performance of the factory units enough so the problems pretty much went away, except around 116+ F ambient temps?
We haven't but it could be something we try in the future
Hi from Sweden, nice work you guys put overall , great explanations and knowledge 👍🏻. In have one question about new Audi 3.0 (45TDI) engines particularly ones that I have and considering to tune in to stage 1 . Here in Sweden tuners can tune this engine up to 350-360 hp 🤯. What’s your thoughts on that ? It’s this ok with all oem parts or there Is need for more stuff to do ,to achieve this performance, Tnx !!!
the turbo is too small for those figures on the normal 45 engine!
Another mint vid 👌😎👍great to see the reasons explained on the dyno graphs 👍👍👍👍
Can someone make a Machine that can copy these smart brains and computers of these guys so i can tune my tdi cars?:))
😭 we never see anything this nice in. 🇺🇸
Been waiting for this video!
Would be cool to see you tackle a m550d quad turbo
4.0 V8 Tdi is going away soon, sadly. They will stop making it, probably due to cost cutting and emissions crap rules.
48V turbo tuning? Hell yeah bruthurrr
you dont know what your talking about.. do you?
Another Great work, congrats!
Solid transparency
Great videos guys. What could you do for my 2011 diesel forester, please advise ???
Sorry we only work on VAG / BMW / MINI / Porsche
Really interesting upload, love technical info like this 👍
Can this start up on dynamic to give that extra sound?
Should be able to yes
Reyt then......!
Another awesome review video.
liking the videos i have a 2014 vw touareg v6 tdi 262 bhp what could i expect with a re map .
310hp is typical!
what would the re map cost and what could i expect fuel / performance kind regards ste
6:15 hahaha Ryan’s face love it
Lol
600lbs of torque? WTF
Will this remap not show up on audi's system if it needs to go in for any warranty work?
Yes it would
Goes anyone realise this enormous 4wd automatic diesel beast weighs well over 2 tons..... Gross vehicle weight is 2375 kgs plus add a driver and a full tank. Drained fluids starvation empty weight is 1810kg...
Old S4 V8 was 1720 kgs 0 to 60 5.9 sec
Old S3 Turbo was 1455 kgs 0 to 60 5.7 sec
They're like 1800kg without driver. Still not light but not 2t empty!
Is there any exhaust upgrades for this car?
Drop us an email to sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk with reg/vin and we can see what we have
So, you are saying you prefer the bitdi setup over the 48v adon setup in this engine?
What’s best to buy bmw 335d or s4 tdi?
both are good cars, depends which you prefer to drive.
You said 100° after the intercooler and over 300° before.
Is that in °C?
If so, then this is absolutely insane.
yes
@@DarksideDevelopments Oh god... an educated guess how long this crap will last? 60.000 miles, maybe? Unbelievable... I'm done.
I have to stop watching such videos.
hopefully 100s of 1000s but you never know!
@@DarksideDevelopments Maybe it will last the warranty period, if left stock and babied.
I don't see these newer cars getting 10, 15, 20 years old. Now way.
And then you are right in the spot where they want you to be. Buying a brand new one every few years. For 50, 60,70, 80k. A new A6 3.0 starts at 70k, I saw recently. And then its a hybrid and it got all of this emissions crap. No thanks.
The world has gone mad!
Is the engine and turbo on this the same as the 3.0 272 but with the added electric boost?
No, a few differences. Mainly fuel system
Very interesting Sir. That much from a diesel turbo is very impressive.
I just wanted to pour you a glass of water, lol.
Could you please tell me what you would get out of a sq5 340bhp safely and how much
Drop us an email :)
do you know you have got this video as unlisted buddy ?
we do now! haha, it should never have gone live before!
Did the intercooler stay cable tied on? Any photos?
No we fitted the intercooler correctly and fabricated a kit - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/darkside-front-mount-intercooler-fmic-for-3-0-tdi-audi-s4-s5.html
u guys sure the zf8hp can handle that torque?
Definitely, they are very strong boxes. We tuned a customers 430d that left us with 750lbs/ft (1016nm) thats been running strong for a few years now
@@DarksideDevelopments very interesting. Can you specify what version of the zf 8hp they're using in the s4 TDI?
Google will tell you!
So how big is the big side of the biturbo turbo (😁) compared to this 2263?
It's a GT30
Diesel cars are now over engineered to meet the Euro 7 emission standard. I'm surprised Audi taking this route with the S4. It's still a great/capable car, but I'll stick to the petrol versions, each to their own..👍
The petrol engines have a lot of similar unreliable tech!
@@DarksideDevelopments This emissions garbage just ruins everything.
Why we never see them cars running on the dyno?
Cos its boring but we will next time!
Do you tune 2.2 200bhp ford duratorqe diesels✌️🙏
I'm afraid not! BMW and VAG only!
if this chap could get my 2015 tiguan 2.0tdi 177 dsg 4motion up to around 200-210 bhp id be delighted
Hi Anthony, please email your reg. to sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk
Just book in for a map, easy!
best exhaust system to get to get my diesel sounding similar to this??
I’m very interested to see what more you can do. I’ve had mine 4 months now and am keen to see it launch to 60 🚀 nearer the 3.9 mark but also concerned what it will cost me should any of that ⚡️ electrical stuff go wrong.
did you tuning gearbox . to take off limitator on gearbox ?
Not tuned this box
@@DarksideDevelopments do you think something like xhp would work for this car?
I know people use that on the zf8 in the bmws, I think it should be possible to use it on other zf8 cars
Thought on the diesel over to v6t petrol?
The petrol was very tunable but not a diesel!
How much does the tune cost .I pick mine up soon 👌
600+vat. Drop us a line!
So on how much in tune boost you go on turbo ? Factory is 2.4
Not much more
good by warranty ! after this.
All this to get walked by a mapped e60 535🤣
Certainly not. This is much faster, especially if it's wet.
Good vid fab information.
Give it a tickle guys ....give it a tickle !!!LOL
Rite then
How does the S4 compare to the A5 V2?
Hi, not really a true comparison, the S4 certainly has more boost.
Huh single turbo, seems an odd step back.
the tiny gtd2263 make 400hp???
Well a gtb2260vklr will make 300-330hp on a 16v Z19DTH, so I don't see why a modern VAG 2.0 with a gtd2363 wouldn't make around 390hp reliably like in this video.
That's right about what I'd expect from a bigger compressor coupled with a 15 year newer engine design.
Great video, you should put the Mic on the other side of the top, hearing you swallow is very strange!
Was thining the same thing! Annoying sound..🤔
Life is annoying!
I'd like to see what the a6 bitdi project car makes on the dyno stock
Filming this week!
@@ryanp6138 on this channel??
This engine should be an option on the RS4 given the standard power. 37+ mpg, I'd definitely buy 1. Tragically, this car will never be sold in AmeriKKKa, cuz, AmeriKKKa.....
What’s the cost for a stage one map ? We’re are you based
600+ VAT - Yorkshire :)
did you map the fake exhaust in so you could utilise it?
its on all the time in Dynamic!
Thinking of buying a a4 3.0 tdi 245 quattro 2013 on anybody have any problems with these engines
Had the same engine on A5. Never had single problem with the engine, had to change drivers side lock module though. Had it 5 years. Go for it 👍🏼
Audi: we built a V6 with 1 turbo and a super charger.
BMW: 🤣🤣🤣 we built a inline 6 with 4 turbo’s
Audi: ....... 😱🤯😭
4 turbos didn't help, neither did the supercharger. 2 turbos is all you need!
Where would that be with a downpipe And a tune !
Not much more I won't think!
@@DarksideDevelopments I guess there no point voiding the warranty to do that then !
I don't think so!
The owner looks like ben shaparo
The English Ben Shapiro!
the car that should have never been born. :(
Can't even find a diesel S4 in the USA.
You dont want one when you have Cheap Petrol
Lucky you 😅
The US variant is still petrol.
7:26 - 2.4 bar of boost - that's more than my tires pressure 😅
just saying
Hmmm... maybe he is talking about absolute preassure?
@@thonyonetwo No he means boost pressure.
@@RealGX so they are running 340kpa in the intake?
@@thonyonetwo Correct new diesels run at very high pressures from stock.
3400mb absolute, 2.4 bar gauge pressure, STOCK!
Alreet
What a complex engine 😅
Lets be honest.. every second hand car you buy is going to be clocked
I don't think that's true, we see a lot of cars and it's not often
I'm guessing fitting a meth kit to bring down temps would be a good move on these?
If you just ran water it would help a little. Running Meth would add more fuel so probably make it worse.
So chocked on nm, f*n ecology
The swallowing.....
we all do it
335d f30 has a better 1/4 mile
Good for BMW!
@@DarksideDevelopments have you tuned a 340d yet?
I haven't seen any videos on RUclips for a tuned 340d
We have some booked in!
@@elektrocisti8314 No it isn't, there is a video on youtube doing a direct comparison between a M340d and an S4 TDI, the S4 is quicker 0-100 and 100-200.
@@RealGX mate. Check out s4 tdi stock quarter mile on dragy and check 335d stick quarter miles on dragy
WHY IS IT SO HARD TO BUY A NICE DIESEL CAR IN USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You get the V8s!
What a disappointing and overly complex engine. I don't agree with a diesel getting in an S either and I obviously rate diesels or I wouldn't be here. S cars need to be high revving petrol!
When can you do a bmw 420D 🥺
we have tuned loads but not made a video!
Darkside Developments any further than a stage 1??
@@murrayhill7309 we don't work in stages and no tuners ever agree what one is. Please email sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk with your reg. and what you are looking for? Thanks
I want to see this too!
Darkside Developments you can use mine for further testing if u want 🤩