I can always count on Doug Wilson to help shift my crabby mood. This newest message is no exception. I have lately been letting myself get annoyed with petty church differences in my local Body of Christ. Thanks for stretching my perspective, Doug.
Let His kingdom come and His will be done, Father draw your church together to be as effective as we by your grace can be, by your Spirit lead us and guide us in Your wisdom and by the way made by your Son Jesus
"These all died in faith, not having received the things promised, but having seen them and greeted them from afar, and having acknowledged that they were strangers and exiles on the earth." (Hebrews 11:13)
Pastor Wilson, this is a great video, and your Biblical enthusiasm and Biblical True "positive thinking" (faith in God's promises) is refreshing -- and, incidentally, it practically works just as well for an understanding that is Pre, A, or Post Mill! 😀 But, Sir, surely you are aware that the 2nd Great Awakening was not all bad... Yes there was more of a mixture... but there was still much true Revival. (you do agree, don't you?). (e.g. "Revival and Revivalism" by Ian Murray)
The Lords will be done, the Kind of coming. When the Great Rival spoken of in the Bible begins you won't need the news to know about it. God does it BEST and BIGGEST!!! 🤔I think it was all the beer, many of them medieval monks love that brew.😁Keep up the great work, I really enjoy your messages.👍
The spark has been lit with the Eschatology controversy currently going on, its time we stop fighting amongst ourselves and unite under Jesus, Kingdom now will never take off if the warriors of God are killing each other, while the world continues to get worse.
That's why the Lord is opening more eyes to the truth of post mil eschton, it's solid bible, optimistic and gives us great hope he will accomplish all he has promised. He will establish justice in the earth, Isa 42:1-4. No more war,Isa 2.
I agree we have this promise, but so did the Huguenots who were slaughtered by the Catholics. The promises are still true even if the in-vogue postmillennialism is not. Meaning, the fulfillment may only be complete when we are already bodily raised and immortal, ruling as deputies on a prosperous earth in a future millennium.
Actually if you're a premil pretrib (like me) you aren't a prepper because you believe that you leave or are tortured to death before all of the really bad stuff starts. Love your work, and it would be very great if your eschatological position were correct. I could almost pray that it were the case.
The Holy Spirit is the source of true conversion, not a specific leader or any group. The foundation to most people's understanding of who Christ is is wrong and until God comes along to change that, they will squabble among themselves about the particulars of their current imaginary friend made in their own image.
Before all this stuff started you presciently advised that there were 9 miles of bad road ahead. But as it turns out, it is more like 9000 miles with 1000 foot drop offs on either side, erupting volcanos ahead and firestorms behind so big as to put to shame the worst conflagration ever to have been seen or recorded in history, while a cloud of locust descend from above so thick that it blots out the sun rendering the heavily pocked road ahead nearly indiscernable. Least ways, that's the way most folks I know see it.
You and most folks you know need to simmer right down and turn off whatever apocalyptic media you've been absorbing!! I guarantee you'll feel so much better, and suddenly realise that most of your concerns are just the hysteria of talking-heads!
The Truth already covers the earth like the sea. Two thousand years ago, Lord Jesus went to the cross and made God obvious, so the Light has arrived into the world. God is obvious. We see all things in part, but only in full after we have received our glorified spiritual bodies. Doug is looking for an earthly deliverance instead of accepting that the specific way in which God loved the world is through saving individuals (John 3, and also demonstrated in detail in Romans 11 where Paul uses himself as the example of the way in which all Israel are going to be saved). Just before Christ returns to save us all, the Holy City (God's Church) are sieged against by all Humanity. It's not that the citizens of the Holy City defeat the siege and then Lord Jesus returns, but instead He is going to return and destroy them with fire that comes down from the sky, and immediately John saw the Judgement at God's Throne. If what Doug predicts is true, then Doug is speaking of the final moment when we fully see the earth covered by Truth as we are raised to our glorified gustly bodies; that is the end, when Lord Jesus will have handed everything to the Father. However, it sounds like Doug thinks the saints are going to lay siege against the world before Christ returns, and that is obviously the opposite of what God teaches.
Sister Mary didn't seem to have any preconceived thought she would maybe bear the Lord into the earth. Why does Doug suggest that we should have grandiose self-centered hopes like that? If Mary had said to the angel, "I thought this day may come", then Doug would have a Biblical point here. Instead, we see a non-Biblical attempt to justify what is supposedly a Biblical doctrine. Considering how all this fits in with Doug's idolatrous perception of the so-called "Enlightenment", which was Humanity's insult against the True Enlightenment which occurred on the cross seventeen hundred and fifty years before the false "Enlightenment" birthed the United States. They worship man, and say it is justified because man is made in God's image. They worshipped the calf, and said it was justified because it was an image representing God. How self-centered would it be for an ancient Israeli girl to specifically think "maybe I'll birth God The Son"? How Humanity-centered is the spirituality underneath Doug's sloppy argumentation? I fear this is the heart of Luciferianism. This appears to be where almost right looks the closest to right. This has the apparentness of being where the one who appears as an angel of light has most made himself look similar to God. Where does being unBiblical get us? If it's not as bad as Brandon Robertson, then should we suddenly be satisfied? Submersion represents having come to believe the Gospel, and thereby having personally died with Christ in His death, and thereby having been personally born anew as a new person, and God is worthy that we trust Him enough that we have peace as we conduct his holy sacraments in the same way in which He has instructed. Let us not desire something else, as if what God has ordained is not sufficient. Doctrine matters. If you allow unBiblical doctrine to reign, then you must expect that spiritual rottenness is going to come to fruition. The Reformation didn't stop with Calvin, and the Church has come to correction on this matter. Just as the Republicans are a few steps behind the Democrats, so also Doug's perspective is founded in the same so-called "Enlightenment" and is just a few steps behind Brandon Robertson. Chesterton is dead because he rejected the Gospel. Satan appears as an angel of almost right. "Discernment is not simply a matter of telling the difference between what is right and wrong; rather it is the difference between right and almost right." - CH Spurgeon I hope this clarity is a keen benefit to those who read it. Just trust Lord Jesus Christ who is blessed forever and ever amen.
1:00-1:28 God is the Most Set-Apart. Yeah, He is sovereign over every detail, but that which is said to come from God The Gust is that which is specifically of God's Self-Expression. Showing that God is sovereign in every detail does not show that the Holy Gust inspires every detail. When God raised used the Assyrians to punish Israel, it was not by inspiriting them with His Holy Gust. I have no idea how Doug thought he had a point there. The only way Doug made a point, is if Doug is presupposing that God's Sovereignty means God is not set-apart and instead God is the author of evil. Is this one of those things where Doug is going to attribute man's Christianized secular philosophy as being God-gusted Truth? Can't be Chesterton this time, because Chesterton is the Gospel-denier who is also a "believer"; obviously so, because his philosophy was smart. Obviously, when First Corinthians talks about the wise being thwarted in their own prowess, that can't include Chesterton, because, if it did, then God would not have made Chesterton such a golden and wondrously calf-shaped man. No way that someone who left the Gospel for Rome was actually taught by demons. Nope. It's the Holy Gust that taught Chesterton to reject the Gospel and turn to Rome. Of course, I have spoken as a fool here. I'll post a reply pointing out where Doug's demonic opening is applied to justify a specific error.
The founding of the United States was a result of the so called "Enlightenment" such as the mock-trial of Charles and the French mob-rule that sent a mass murderer rampaging across Europe. The actual Enlightenment happened two thousand years ago at Calvary, and the one which resulted in the modern-era, (and with it the United States) was literally Luciferian Satanism (false light). Satan likes to imitate God, but the Scripture prepares us to draw the line (as Spurgeon admonished) between right and almost right. The so-called "Enlightenment" worshipped mankind, and they said this is right because man is made in God's image (I'm paraphrasing). I'm not saying God's sovereignty was not in the establishing of the United States, just as I am not saying God's sovereignty was not in the sinful acts of the Assyrians by which He punished Israel. However, God did not inspirit the Assyrians with the Holy Gust so they would sin, and likewise God did not inspirit the establishers of the so-called "Enlightenment" to replace right with almost right and elevate mankind to the seat of God and elevate man's wisdom to the reverence owed only to God's wisdom. Yeah, those who worship man want to treat humans well, and so does God, but that does not mean that their worship of man is therefore God-gusted most set-apart wisdom. This 100% explains why Doug thinks that Chesterton was saved, even though Chesterton specifically became persuaded to believe Rome instead of the Gospel. Doug is the posterchild for what Spurgeon meant when he said that discernment is knowing the difference between right and almost right. This is a very very bad video. I don't think there is going to be a full reformation, because the Church with God's True Doctrine is already mostly reformed. Doug looks to the wide way to destruction and assumes that those many are the few who find the narrow gate to life. Yeah, if those many were the few, then we would need a reformation. We need to be ever reforming, and we need to draw the line at the Gospel (that is, we need to seal up our water tight compartments, or we'll sink with Doug and his precious world). I pray God humbles Doug to spiritual correction on this most pertinent matter of right vs almost right. Satan comes as an angel of what? Likewise, it is no surprise if his ministers come as ministers of the same. I hope this is beneficial to the Body Of Lord Jesus Christ who is God blessed forever and ever amen.
I can always count on Doug Wilson to help shift my crabby mood. This newest message is no exception. I have lately been letting myself get annoyed with petty church differences in my local Body of Christ. Thanks for stretching my perspective, Doug.
Came to say just this. Glory to God
Amen!
Let His kingdom come and His will be done, Father draw your church together to be as effective as we by your grace can be, by your Spirit lead us and guide us in Your wisdom and by the way made by your Son Jesus
It’ll be unmistakable when it arrives.
May it be soon.
“Revival seldom comes when you whistle for it “-Charles H Spurgeon
I've been praying for repentance revival for a year due to Doug's preaching.
It nourishes my soul when you quote all of the promises and point out how optimistic the Believer can be because of those promises!
As a wise man once said: It's not how high you can jump - but how you live when you hit the ground.
and AMEN!
We have PROMISES
"These all died in faith, not having received the things promised, but having seen them and greeted them from afar, and having acknowledged that they were strangers and exiles on the earth." (Hebrews 11:13)
It will never be too late for revival not only because of future promise, but because of promises fulfill; namely, the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
There will always be tares among the wheat. Reformation is the wheat outstripping the tares -- and gloriously so!
Pastor Wilson, this is a great video, and your Biblical enthusiasm and Biblical True "positive thinking" (faith in God's promises) is refreshing -- and, incidentally, it practically works just as well for an understanding that is Pre, A, or Post Mill! 😀
But, Sir, surely you are aware that the 2nd Great Awakening was not all bad... Yes there was more of a mixture... but there was still much true Revival. (you do agree, don't you?).
(e.g. "Revival and Revivalism" by Ian Murray)
Always on point.
Thank you
Powerful!
This may be terminal velocity but we've got a long way to fall
George Whitefield! Bruce Gore is a great teacher.
Amen!
The Lords will be done, the Kind of coming. When the Great Rival spoken of in the Bible begins you won't need the news to know about it. God does it BEST and BIGGEST!!!
🤔I think it was all the beer, many of them medieval monks love that brew.😁Keep up the great work, I really enjoy your messages.👍
The spark has been lit with the Eschatology controversy currently going on, its time we stop fighting amongst ourselves and unite under Jesus, Kingdom now will never take off if the warriors of God are killing each other, while the world continues to get worse.
That's why the Lord is opening more eyes to the truth of post mil eschton, it's solid bible, optimistic and gives us great hope he will accomplish all he has promised. He will establish justice in the earth, Isa 42:1-4. No more war,Isa 2.
Saying it like no one can and does
I agree we have this promise, but so did the Huguenots who were slaughtered by the Catholics. The promises are still true even if the in-vogue postmillennialism is not. Meaning, the fulfillment may only be complete when we are already bodily raised and immortal, ruling as deputies on a prosperous earth in a future millennium.
I'm guessing it must have been Doug who wrote the Pyromaniacs entry on this topic some years ago; I'd forgotten that woodstacking metaphor.
Actually if you're a premil pretrib (like me) you aren't a prepper because you believe that you leave or are tortured to death before all of the really bad stuff starts.
Love your work, and it would be very great if your eschatological position were correct. I could almost pray that it were the case.
The Holy Spirit is the source of true conversion, not a specific leader or any group. The foundation to most people's understanding of who Christ is is wrong and until God comes along to change that, they will squabble among themselves about the particulars of their current imaginary friend made in their own image.
Devoid the Void as Elohim in Genesis.
What ‼️ where’s the R for Repentance ❓
There’s no revival of the Church without the Repentance of the Church.
Before all this stuff started you presciently advised that there were 9 miles of bad road ahead. But as it turns out, it is more like 9000 miles with 1000 foot drop offs on either side, erupting volcanos ahead and firestorms behind so big as to put to shame the worst conflagration ever to have been seen or recorded in history, while a cloud of locust descend from above so thick that it blots out the sun rendering the heavily pocked road ahead nearly indiscernable. Least ways, that's the way most folks I know see it.
You and most folks you know need to simmer right down and turn off whatever apocalyptic media you've been absorbing!! I guarantee you'll feel so much better, and suddenly realise that most of your concerns are just the hysteria of talking-heads!
The Truth already covers the earth like the sea. Two thousand years ago, Lord Jesus went to the cross and made God obvious, so the Light has arrived into the world. God is obvious. We see all things in part, but only in full after we have received our glorified spiritual bodies. Doug is looking for an earthly deliverance instead of accepting that the specific way in which God loved the world is through saving individuals (John 3, and also demonstrated in detail in Romans 11 where Paul uses himself as the example of the way in which all Israel are going to be saved). Just before Christ returns to save us all, the Holy City (God's Church) are sieged against by all Humanity. It's not that the citizens of the Holy City defeat the siege and then Lord Jesus returns, but instead He is going to return and destroy them with fire that comes down from the sky, and immediately John saw the Judgement at God's Throne.
If what Doug predicts is true, then Doug is speaking of the final moment when we fully see the earth covered by Truth as we are raised to our glorified gustly bodies; that is the end, when Lord Jesus will have handed everything to the Father. However, it sounds like Doug thinks the saints are going to lay siege against the world before Christ returns, and that is obviously the opposite of what God teaches.
Sister Mary didn't seem to have any preconceived thought she would maybe bear the Lord into the earth. Why does Doug suggest that we should have grandiose self-centered hopes like that? If Mary had said to the angel, "I thought this day may come", then Doug would have a Biblical point here. Instead, we see a non-Biblical attempt to justify what is supposedly a Biblical doctrine. Considering how all this fits in with Doug's idolatrous perception of the so-called "Enlightenment", which was Humanity's insult against the True Enlightenment which occurred on the cross seventeen hundred and fifty years before the false "Enlightenment" birthed the United States. They worship man, and say it is justified because man is made in God's image. They worshipped the calf, and said it was justified because it was an image representing God. How self-centered would it be for an ancient Israeli girl to specifically think "maybe I'll birth God The Son"? How Humanity-centered is the spirituality underneath Doug's sloppy argumentation?
I fear this is the heart of Luciferianism. This appears to be where almost right looks the closest to right. This has the apparentness of being where the one who appears as an angel of light has most made himself look similar to God.
Where does being unBiblical get us? If it's not as bad as Brandon Robertson, then should we suddenly be satisfied? Submersion represents having come to believe the Gospel, and thereby having personally died with Christ in His death, and thereby having been personally born anew as a new person, and God is worthy that we trust Him enough that we have peace as we conduct his holy sacraments in the same way in which He has instructed. Let us not desire something else, as if what God has ordained is not sufficient. Doctrine matters. If you allow unBiblical doctrine to reign, then you must expect that spiritual rottenness is going to come to fruition. The Reformation didn't stop with Calvin, and the Church has come to correction on this matter.
Just as the Republicans are a few steps behind the Democrats, so also Doug's perspective is founded in the same so-called "Enlightenment" and is just a few steps behind Brandon Robertson. Chesterton is dead because he rejected the Gospel. Satan appears as an angel of almost right. "Discernment is not simply a matter of telling the difference between what is right and wrong; rather it is the difference between right and almost right." - CH Spurgeon
I hope this clarity is a keen benefit to those who read it. Just trust Lord Jesus Christ who is blessed forever and ever amen.
1:00-1:28 God is the Most Set-Apart. Yeah, He is sovereign over every detail, but that which is said to come from God The Gust is that which is specifically of God's Self-Expression. Showing that God is sovereign in every detail does not show that the Holy Gust inspires every detail. When God raised used the Assyrians to punish Israel, it was not by inspiriting them with His Holy Gust.
I have no idea how Doug thought he had a point there. The only way Doug made a point, is if Doug is presupposing that God's Sovereignty means God is not set-apart and instead God is the author of evil.
Is this one of those things where Doug is going to attribute man's Christianized secular philosophy as being God-gusted Truth? Can't be Chesterton this time, because Chesterton is the Gospel-denier who is also a "believer"; obviously so, because his philosophy was smart. Obviously, when First Corinthians talks about the wise being thwarted in their own prowess, that can't include Chesterton, because, if it did, then God would not have made Chesterton such a golden and wondrously calf-shaped man. No way that someone who left the Gospel for Rome was actually taught by demons. Nope. It's the Holy Gust that taught Chesterton to reject the Gospel and turn to Rome. Of course, I have spoken as a fool here.
I'll post a reply pointing out where Doug's demonic opening is applied to justify a specific error.
The founding of the United States was a result of the so called "Enlightenment" such as the mock-trial of Charles and the French mob-rule that sent a mass murderer rampaging across Europe. The actual Enlightenment happened two thousand years ago at Calvary, and the one which resulted in the modern-era, (and with it the United States) was literally Luciferian Satanism (false light). Satan likes to imitate God, but the Scripture prepares us to draw the line (as Spurgeon admonished) between right and almost right. The so-called "Enlightenment" worshipped mankind, and they said this is right because man is made in God's image (I'm paraphrasing). I'm not saying God's sovereignty was not in the establishing of the United States, just as I am not saying God's sovereignty was not in the sinful acts of the Assyrians by which He punished Israel. However, God did not inspirit the Assyrians with the Holy Gust so they would sin, and likewise God did not inspirit the establishers of the so-called "Enlightenment" to replace right with almost right and elevate mankind to the seat of God and elevate man's wisdom to the reverence owed only to God's wisdom.
Yeah, those who worship man want to treat humans well, and so does God, but that does not mean that their worship of man is therefore God-gusted most set-apart wisdom.
This 100% explains why Doug thinks that Chesterton was saved, even though Chesterton specifically became persuaded to believe Rome instead of the Gospel. Doug is the posterchild for what Spurgeon meant when he said that discernment is knowing the difference between right and almost right.
This is a very very bad video.
I don't think there is going to be a full reformation, because the Church with God's True Doctrine is already mostly reformed. Doug looks to the wide way to destruction and assumes that those many are the few who find the narrow gate to life. Yeah, if those many were the few, then we would need a reformation. We need to be ever reforming, and we need to draw the line at the Gospel (that is, we need to seal up our water tight compartments, or we'll sink with Doug and his precious world). I pray God humbles Doug to spiritual correction on this most pertinent matter of right vs almost right. Satan comes as an angel of what? Likewise, it is no surprise if his ministers come as ministers of the same.
I hope this is beneficial to the Body Of Lord Jesus Christ who is God blessed forever and ever amen.
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