26 Different Arabic Qurans Destroy the Myth of One Quran
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2017
- Muslim apologists tell their followers that the Quran has been perfectly preserved from the time of Muhammad down to the present. What happens when Jay Smith and Hatun Tash bring 26 different Arabic Qurans to Speakers' Corner and start showing Muslims the many differences between different Arabic versions of the Quran? Find out in "26 Different Arabic Qurans Destroy the Myth of One Quran."
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A number of you are asking why Jay and Hatun are making these claims when they aren't Arab scholars themselves. Jay has had two years of Arabic, but he said very clearly at 33:20 to 34:00 of this video that he is not an Arabic scholar, nor that he or Hatun did any of the Arabic analysis with these verses. That was all done by Arabic scholars, who chose not to be filmed, because of the repercussions to them and their families, both in the UK and in their native Arab countries. Jay and Hatun were only introducing the painstaking work done by others. It's sad that the Arab scholars who did the work could not
introduce the material they worked so hard on themselves, due to the danger posed by Muslims, even in London.
PfanderFilms I love Jay Smiths work, he is brilliant at what he does and respect him for the fact that he puts his life on the line every week at speakers corner!
This is probably the most seminally important video ever provided to the public exposing Islam for what it is.
Tx 1985 why don't you invest your time investigating their claims and attempt to prove them wrong if you disagree? “They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness” (2 Thessalonians 2:10-12). Jesus says “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.” -John 14:6. Truth is everything if what they are saying is a lie prove it.
Tx 1985, Jews didn't accept the messiah, that's why, muhammedi tried to convince them all the time. Jews, till this day, wait the final and last prophet, from there comes that story. Jesus in english is from greek, if you are willing to learn, we can talk. Meanwhile i'll enquire, what's your evidences, about the bible corruption? Except that Quran and your imam, says that? Infact, Quran actually tells us, that Jews used to hide some scriptures, and didn't reveal it. You know, The Sultan of Oman professor of Arab and Islamic studies Abdullah Saeed quote -
Since the authorized scriptures of Jews and Christians remain very much today as they existed at the time of the Prophet, it is difficult to argue that the Qur’anic references to Tawrat and Injil were only to the “pure” Tawrat and Injil as existed at the time of Moses and Jesus, respectively. If the texts have remained more or less as they were in the seventh century CE, the reverence the Qur’an has shown them at the time should be retained even today. Many interpreters of the Qur’an, from Tabari to Razi to Ibn Taymiyya and even Qutb, appear to be inclined to share this view. The wholesale dismissive attitude held by many Muslims in the modern period towards the scriptures of Judaism and Christianity do not seem to have the support of either the Qur’an or the major figures of tafsir. ### to add about the bible validity, Bible has around 500,000 cross references over Taurah and Injil that means, New Testament and Old Testament is referring perfectly to each other. That's actually why christians use Torah and Evangelium together. The new testament was written in Greek and Arameic. Bible is a very miraculous book as it is written over 1500 years by many authors yet the central theme is unified as if it were conducted like a symphony by one author? Christianity recognizes the themes as foreshadowed by God as embedded in the bible as well as in Jewish traditions. These patterns occur over and over again. Jesus died on the cross to fulfill the old testament requirements and simultaneously usher in a new promise to the Jews first and then to non-Jews. The purpose of these 613 laws is to show how difficult it is to keep them all, all the time.
sachristian
you said your bible has miracles..actually no the the only miraculous book is quran and i can prove it to you..but Jesus himself did miracles by the permission of allah as quran told us but you believe that he is the God..
can give this miracles in your bible?can you cite them here?write them one by one..
you said its not corrupted..well tell me how jesus was born? more questions to come to prove that Jesus cant be god..,but i prefer ask question by question
Hatun did amazing work here and needs a huge commendation for her studies!
linda clark
I agree
Hatun is exceptional. This girl s crowns in heaven boi
Nonsense! I say that Hafs' version is correct, and thus you fail!
Muslims lie to protect a false prophet and the man made Qur'an! It is not a word of God but compiled by men over time 😂. Without lies Islam dies. The lies are now being exposed and the internet will do the rest. May the false prophet be exposed so Muslims can leave this 7th Century fascist political ideology camouflaged in religion. Not good for humanity.
We have been notified that some of our slides at the end of this video seem to be saying the same thing in both slides. let us help you look at the slides to better understand how they differ.
The first accusation is that the numbering is not the same for the verses on the left and the right sides of the slides. This is because the Hafs version (on the left) tends to print their numbers at the beginning of the verses, while the other versions sometimes print their numbers at the end of the verses. Hatun and Jay cannot control where the printers decide to print their verse numbers, but you will see that the Arabic within the two verses correspond with each other, except for the word/s
they are referring to.
Another accusation is that in the main body of the verses, they show exactly the same word which is in dispute on both sides of the slide. You will need to look at the right or left margins of the slide, to the word or words which are underlined in the margin. That is where the variants can be found, and where the printers have placed them. And there you will see that they are written differently from the Hafs version.
We should have mentioned these problems at the outset. Our apologies
I love Jay Smith's work :)
Nonsense! I say that Hafs' version is correct, and thus you fail!
Pray for Jay, Hatun, and Lizzie. The Muslims are being physically violent with these warriors of Christ. Pray for them that God protects them and keeps their spirit strong.
Kukulkan Sol are you Jewish or Muslim?
MattMendez that's why he stands on a ladder now - so the police can keep an eye on him, I heard on one occasion he got knocked out and they kept pummelling him and some black bloke appeared from nowhere and lay over him taking all the blows.
hhhhhhhh i thougt its complete different like bible loool you r poor . its the same meaning in Arabic also in arabic if we say we or i do somthing its the same but we its called to some one has power and make the words strong they say we
majed h what?
some time like the king Slman the king of saudi arabia when he make the new decision he said we Slman son of Abdul alziz he dosent say im Slman cz that make it more power
David ask Jay to send you copy of each 26 Quran and we may do the same here in different parks and Muslim neighborhoods.
If Jay Smith just bring these 26 Quran daily to speaker 🔊 corner then that is enough to shut down Islam
I dont think so...the spirit inside them is evil..they are ordered to kill n slaughter unbelievers....only the Holy Spirit can change them ...not humans
Speaker suffer from lack of knowledge
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Regarding the 7 readings ways in the Quran, there are some words and speaking styles used according to different spellings of arabic regions, where each region use proper words to describe an event by a way that differs to other regions but they all make a complete meaning from other angles with more clarification and understanding, like reading in Active and Passive form or Singular and plural nouns without loss of generality. This matter in the Quran makes it miraculous book not like any other book.
Some examples in the Quran:
Ittakhizzou and ittakhazou (Take and they took)
Explanation: when we read the complete verses we will know that Allah order us to take from the place of Ibrahim as a place prayer as (the earlier people in Ismail’s time) as they took from the place of Ibrahim as a place prayer at that time.
Naghfur and Yughfur (We shall forgive you your sins and your sins shall be forgiven)
Explanation: when we read the context of the complete verse we will know that it is in Active and Passive form where in the second word "Yughfur" the reader knows implicitly who is the forgiver.
Yakzebuuna and Yukazzubuuna (They lie and They accuse of lying)
Explanation: when we read the complete verses we will know that the meant people have the quality of lying and accusing others of lying.
Miskeenen and Massakeena (a poor and poor men)
Explanation: when we read the context of the complete verse we will know that the meaning is:
For those who cannot fasting a day in Ramadan (With hardship), there is a ransom, the feeding of one man or or more (this is point of different readings because it depends to the capability of feeding).
Qaatala and Qutila (Fight and were killed)
Explanation: The verse is: "How many of the prophets fought (in Allah's way)" and "How many of the prophets were killed (in Allah's way)"
when we look at this verse we will see the scene image from two angles where there were prophets who fought without being killed and others were killed (in Allah's way).
Summarizing the subject, the 7 readings of the Quran is a miraculous matter not like what they say those who don’t know neither the Arabic language nor the historical events because they look at these matter by one eye with my respect to the honest Christians.
The golden advice is to not judge any book without reading it, understanding, questioning the scholars about it not the superficial brains
All the best
W Masih Nope! He didnt and the muslims didnt do their research!
Yeah,that's why we here stronger then before,ready to kick your all ass.
You next!!
@@saidghendir1038
You talk to donkey's Brother,not even whort your effort.
Look what utter nonsense they speak....
Good that the Qur'an are for human's with intellect to be understood,as our Prophet Sallahla Aleyih Wa Salaam said.
As yet, only 26 different Arabic Qurans have been found. However, there are more different ones and older ones, coming out of Yemen.
Remember allah was/is a bumbling illiterate idiot so when his words are written down he does not know what is written down? Thats why uthman tried to help allah by burning all those korans.
but all are same if you see the oldest qurran and compare it with todays you wont find any mistakes how ever the pronunciation of some words can be different because of different arabic dialects .
+bilal aslam No I did a little research and There are chapters missing! Where are the originals?
@@bilalaslam9144 Lol! Here we go again!
Thank you.
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I think Hatun deserves a golden key to heaven 💕
I now see that the human can't understand something when they don't want to. If Hazret-i Muhammad (sav) was able to read and write, people would think that he wrote Koran himself. They'd call him a poet because of the poetic language of Koran. There's no mistake in Allah's creation and there are always reasons and responses for our questions that we should search and learn.
Finally a Muslim here , sad thing to see that most of their arguments are lies , for example the red words marking "wrong words or differences" are simply not real , we put the word Allah and god and his/him in red to highlight god/Allah , I'm deeply saddened by how these people prove that their religion is truthful based on how our religion is "fake"
And yet they have the damn nerve to claim that the Bible haven't been preserved and there's more copies of if. Smh
Victor and the variations they claim about the Bible are majority in the translation but never change the actual meaning.
i read years back that there are surviving early korans turning up now and then from archaeology that are very substantially different. these get put safe with more urgency than if they were made of plutonium. anyone know anything of this ?
Okay show a single manuscript from within first century after Jesus. Then explain how many books the bible Actually contains.. 71? 67? 80? Why did the earliest accounts of the bible contain the likes of Thomas and Mary, but the supposed 'real' Bible of today doesn't? Why are so many verses from the KJV found to be interpollation or fabrication by Your own bible scholars?
Why is 'THE word of God' still relying on King James' Bible which dates back to the 16th century, while older manuscripts have been found that are in conflict with KJV? Who is Matthew? Mark? Luke or John? Simply a penname of which you don't even know who wrote the account, when it was written etc etc... Just a few of the almost unlimited flaws regarding the Bible without even scratching the surface...
AURORA08A obviously if you rely on islamophobic sources to disprove Quranic authenticity, its like me asking a football fan whether his favorite team or their rivals are better...
To get to the point, people in the time of Prophet Muhammad SAW used to have copies/pieces of all types of material with Scripture written on it... These were usually combined with their own commentary on the verses or sayings from the Prophet and his companions about the specific verses.
As far as I know these manuscripts were accompanied with a disclaimer that not all content was the actual Qur'an, a Side note which islamophobes don't like to mention.
This is the reason why many written forms of revelation had to be destroyed in order to standardize the actual Revelation.
The Qur'an itself doesn't even rely on these written material because from the time of the Prophet pbuh until now people have memorized the Qur'an, which is pretty much the strongest way to preserve Scripture.
If you are intellectually honest towards yourself you know you shouldnt really solely on anti'islamic/ non islamic sources to confirm Your bias, but look at it from an objective basis..
Mikail Arican, you asked for a single manuscript from the time of Jesus? There are plenty, one of which is the dead sea scrolls, dated from 150BC (Old testament) and all the way to 70AD (New testament), which is identical in meaning to the Holy Bible in English of today. So why don't look if there is existing material before making such nonsense and idiotic claims. Which show your complete ignorance. The Bible is composed of 66 books by 40 different writers over 1,500 years, yet it has one consistent storyline running all the way through.
Secondly, all the Apostles wrote their Scriptures, but only 4 made it as the Gospels, because they give the most complete picture, of the same events from different points of views of the Apostles, and there there is also the Scripture of Saint Paul, that were circulating in the Church, that could be verified, as these were circulating through the churches. Therefore the Scripture that we have in the holy Bible are canonical, but what did not make it is that which was apocrypha, or of dubious origins, that was not circulating in the Church at the time of the Apostles, or could not be verified. So basically fake accounts did not make it into the Bible, and you are asking about the fake accounts.
Then there is the KJV you are asking about, which there may be many different TRANSLATIONS of the Holy Bible, but the overall message does not change, neither do these TRANSLATIONS mean there are different Bible, since the original Holy Scripture are mainly in Hebrew, and some in Aramaic and Greek. That Original Scripture remains unchanged, so no we do not have many different Bibles, just many different translations, so many different people can understand it. I hope you can understand the difference between a translation of the Holy Bible, and original Scripture now, since you seem to have thought that a translation equals to a different Bible.
the Bible says that there is none good but one and that is God so if Jesus never sinned then Jesus is God
learning Christian I'm a new Christian and that verse left me confused and now I understand. Thank you!!
yes that is confusing but that is true.
Jesus in bible was racist, he called lady a Dog! Racism is a sin !
@@navaidahmed6050 where?
@@Baldi3486 Mark 7 - 27
Thank God this isn't a video full of yelling!
The Muslims actually started leaving to avoid hearing about all the differences.
Acts17Apologetics oh course they did.
Jesus IsGod Whenever I hear Jay Smith speaking at the corner, I always try to understand what everyone is saying. Some of the stuff people say when they are upset is off the wall.
They do not want to her the truth because it hurts. To realize that your enire life is a lie is painful. You are very brave people!
Kukulkan Sol What are you saying, good sir?
Thank you very much. That annoying Muslim in the video continuously shouts that there are variations in the Bible, but he doesn't want to hear the truth about his Quran! Muslims are just confused about the whole idea.
Christians never claimed that their New Testaments were "direct words of God", but they are revelations coming from the Holy Spirit to the apostles or to the first generation of the disciples of the apostles. The Four Evangelists are Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, the authors attributed with the creation of the four canonical Gospel scriptures.
But the Islamic claim that the Quran is the direct and unchanged words of God is a huge claim that could not be proven as true. Furthermore, finding problems in other books does not turn this Islamic claim into a fact. Simple logic; focus on your book to see if can stand to objective testing.
Amazing to think that after years of being told the Quran has never changed. No one actually said hmm okay let's check that out. Clearly it has changed and is not as they say 100% unchanged. I think many Muslims knew this but didn't want to look silly. Well done and great work. Jesus is the light.
Thank you
It is from ignorance to talk about whatever book without knowing or understanding the language of that book.
You should know the difference between the american and british spelling, is there any meaning error when you read any known text context using one of them, of course not because doesn't matter the style of writing while the meaning is confirmed and every one write the word as he sounds it out. I mean I could write the Quran even using english letters while keeping the same recitation and spelling. What is important is the listener who should listen the same recitation as like arabic recitation, thus same meaning. I tell you more than that, the two men who would read text context using the american and british spelling, they will reach you the message by the the same way if a third illiterate man who memorieses the same text by heart. Regarding the Quran, it is the same thing, me personnaly, I memorise the whole Quran by heart form my cheikh who memorized it from reliable connected chain of cheikhs "machayekh" over the centeries connected to Abdullah ibn Masood from the Prophet peace be upon him from gebrayel from the God Allah.
This matter is not available for the other books because the people have lost the original talk from the God, where these books were revealed to specified people in a specified region not all mankind. Hence, Allah sent many books to people successively to remember them that there is no God but Allah, until coming the prophet Muhammed peace be upon him with the last revelation "The Quran" to all mankind any where in the earth, and Allah by his holy will and his own wisdom wanted to this Quran to be the final guidance and warning to mankind.
Allah says in the Quran:
"Whoever is guided is only guided for [the benefit of] his soul. And whoever errs only errs against it. And no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another. And never would We punish until We sent a messenger." surah Al Isra 15 (QS 17: 15)
In other verse He says:
"[O Prophet!] We have sent down to you the Book for mankind with the truth. Then whoever adopts the right way, will do so for his own soul, and whoever goes astray, injures his own soul. You are not their custodian." surah Az Zumar 41 (QS 39: 41)
May Allah guide you to the straight way if you open your heart without arrogance
or racine pride or religion background or how the others would see you.
Allah says in the Quran:
" So whoever Allah wants to guide - He expands his breast to [contain] Islam; and whoever He wants to misguide - He makes his breast tight and constricted as though he were climbing into the sky. Thus does Allah place defilement upon those who do not believe". surah Al An’am 125 (QS 6: 125) english translation.
Thanks
Speaker suffer from lack of knowledge
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Regarding the 7 readings ways in the Quran, there are some words and speaking styles used according to different spellings of arabic regions, where each region use proper words to describe an event by a way that differs to other regions but they all make a complete meaning from other angles with more clarification and understanding, like reading in Active and Passive form or Singular and plural nouns without loss of generality. This matter in the Quran makes it miraculous book not like any other book.
Some examples in the Quran:
Ittakhizzou and ittakhazou (Take and they took)
Explanation: when we read the complete verses we will know that Allah order us to take from the place of Ibrahim as a place prayer as (the earlier people in Ismail’s time) as they took from the place of Ibrahim as a place prayer at that time.
Naghfur and Yughfur (We shall forgive you your sins and your sins shall be forgiven)
Explanation: when we read the context of the complete verse we will know that it is in Active and Passive form where in the second word "Yughfur" the reader knows implicitly who is the forgiver.
Yakzebuuna and Yukazzubuuna (They lie and They accuse of lying)
Explanation: when we read the complete verses we will know that the meant people have the quality of lying and accusing others of lying.
Miskeenen and Massakeena (a poor and poor men)
Explanation: when we read the context of the complete verse we will know that the meaning is:
For those who cannot fasting a day in Ramadan (With hardship), there is a ransom, the feeding of one man or or more (this is point of different readings because it depends to the capability of feeding).
Qaatala and Qutila (Fight and were killed)
Explanation: The verse is: "How many of the prophets fought (in Allah's way)" and "How many of the prophets were killed (in Allah's way)"
when we look at this verse we will see the scene image from two angles where there were prophets who fought without being killed and others were killed (in Allah's way).
Summarizing the subject, the 7 readings of the Quran is a miraculous matter not like what they say those who don’t know neither the Arabic language nor the historical events because they look at these matter by one eye with my respect to the honest Christians.
The golden advice is to not judge any book without reading it, understanding, questioning the scholars about it not the superficial brains
All the best
do u know there are texts of quran that is found dated back 1500 that 100% the same??
Now say "الحمد لله" that you've seen this comment...Bcz they'll come from any direction to misgude you..but stay firm in your religion...and be thankful to Allah bcz he blessed us with. "Islam"...Ameen...🤲
Lol
you did watch the video right ? they quite literally disprove your whole religion in the length of this video. But you live your life, if living in a lie is what you like
whoever did this thank you man. Because this is not a problem its just one of 7 dialects. Just like an American will say myself while an irish person might say me self. So it doesn’t change the meaning. And well muslims already know this. Thank you for your hardwork though
One recitation and seven dialetics, why burn them?
I love how every time they heckle, it ends up proving Jay and Hatun right! Yahweh bless and keep them both and enrich their ministry of truth!
Big support to David wood from Lebanon
Lebanon? 😂😂
Thank you for sharing some quotations. Good job. GBU.
Hatun is a nightmare to Islam, Qur'an, Muhammad and his Allah
God bless you Mr. Jay and Hatun for this wonderful work
We at Pfanderfilms would like to thank David Wood for uploading both this video and the shorter 'teaser' version of this most damaging material against the Qur'an. It should help those watching come to the firm conclusion that the Qur'an is nothing more than a man-made document, compiled, and changed over a period of 100 - 200 years after Muhammad, and thus created by men who are very much like we are, failed human beings, who simply cannot agree on what God really says.
how on earth someone would write a book and than rebuke himself in surat abasa
The Prophet frowned and turned away
80:2
Because there came to him the blind man, [interrupting].
80:3
But what would make you perceive, [O Muhammad], that perhaps he might be purified
80:4
Or be reminded and the remembrance would benefit him?
80:5
As for he who thinks himself without need,
80:6
To him you give attention.
80:7
And not upon you [is any blame] if he will not be purified.
80:8
But as for he who came to you striving [for knowledge]
80:9
While he fears [ Allah ],
80:10
SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
From him you are distracted.
80:11
No! Indeed, these verses are a reminder;
80:12
So whoever wills may remember it.
how on earth this miracilous ayah has a relation with the number of chapters of quran إِنَّ عَلَيْنَا جَمْعَهُ وَقُرْآنَهُ
Indeed, upon Us is its collection [in your heart] and [to make possible] its recitation.
number of surah 75
number of ayah 17
number of letters 17
numbers of words 5
75+17+17+5=114
Hi David can you make a video about these Qurans explaining the differences in them. In your library you speak very good.
Indeed, it is not the eyes that are blind but the hearts
God bless you guys.. Doing a great job
Keep up good work .
This video has given me hope that the people of the UK will come to their senses!
Wait, wait, wait - hang on, I just need to get my head around this. Are they saying that it is the Quran that is corrupted 😂
no they are just showing how ignorant and ridiculous they are.. they are claiming muslims are hiding these different pronunciation of words , while the difference are put in colour so everyone can see it ..i just wasted my time watching a completely nonsense..
Ahmed Hazard except, we do know historically that the Quran HAS changed...
Kym Moore
When ??
Abdulaziz Al Saif for a start the Arabic language was not fully developed when the Quran was first committed to writing, meaning that as the language developed the Quran changed from its original form.
Secondly none of the museum Qurans are from the right period and all show signs of editing an re-writing.
The 'Satanic verses' verse was amended.
Several Hadith show amendments took place, Jay actually quotes many here. It's not so much an exact when because the Quran was not fully placed into its current format until 1924.
The fact that they have 26 versions all with variations should prove everything. Unfortunately, many Muslims will never accept any of this (or that the Quran should have at least seven variants according to Muhammad) because they are indoctrinated into believing the book is perfectly preserved!
Ahmed Hazard read it, studied it - laughed at it.
This is what happens when you build your foundation on sand - you have to keep back-peddalling until you have nothing left to stand on.
Cool, didn't change the result. Any book which is handwritten is going to have textual variants. For Instance Hatun Tash currently has over 30 different arabic qurans.
Thirty-five versions of the Qur’an are known to have existed and to have been accepted in early Islam. Eventually, under the influence of the Islamic scholar ibn Mujahid (d. 935 AD) at Baghdad, one system of consonants was canonized, and a limit was placed on the variations of vowels. This resulted in seven systems of readings providing fourteen versions of the Qur’an, as each of the seven was traced through two different transmitters as follows:
1. Nafi’ of Medina (d. 785 AD) according to Warsh and Qalun
2. Ibn Kathir of Mecca (d. 737 AD) according to al-Bazzi and Qunbul
3. Ibn ‘Amir of Damascus (d. 736 AD) according to Hisham and Ibn Dhakwan
4. Abu ‘Amr of Basra (d. 770 AD) according to al-Duri and al-Suri
5. Abu Bakr ‘Asim of Kufa (d. 778 AD) according to Hafz and Ibn 'Ayyash
6. Hamza of Kufa (d. 772) according to Khalaf and Khallad
7. Al-Qisa’i of Kufa (d. 804 AD) according to al-Duri and Abu’l Harith
(Cyril Glassé, The Concise Encyclopedia of Islam, San Francisco: Harper & Row, 1989, p. 324).
David, i am waiting for video about linda sarsour to wage jihad against donald trump
Jodie hear, hear 👍
Jodie me too. you look like the girl from Juno. sorry don't know her name.
Jodie did she call for jihad against the president
Praise the Lord, Mohammed Salah you're right about the money, they missed the real Power for lack of knowledge of the Spiritual Foundation that was given to Christ Disciples, and Paul who teach you how to rightly divide the word in SPIRIT and TRUTH, and how to receive the Power of God.
+Mohammed Salah
"it's never been about religion, its always about money and power."
THAT was muhammad, centuries before the elites you speak of.
This reaction is the Muslim version of "They know! Shut it down!"
The guy at the front keeps going on about the Bible, but Christians never claimed there aren't different versions.... If Muslims admit to differences then it can be debated and gone through critically and Muslims may be able to reform the religion.
There is only one quran - 4 different Warsh qurans, 7 different Hafs qurans, Qaaluun quran, al-doori quran, Al-Susi quran, Shobah quran, Ibn Ammar quran, Al Kesaa quran, Khalaf quran, Khaaled Quran, Ibn Zkwaan Quran, Jamas Quran, Qunbul Quran, Ibn Kathir quran, Nafi quran, Yaqoob quran, Al Shayzari quran, Al a'mash quran, Ibn Attiya quran, Ibn Thaqwan quran, Al Sulami quran, Humaid quran, Ibn abi abla quran, Ibn masood quran, Abi hatem quran, Abi ubaid quran, Abi taher quran, Ja'far quran, Mujahid quran, ibn abi ishaq quran etc etc = ONE quran
2,500 diffrent bibles yet y’all criticize Islam ? On top of that y’all think 3 = 1 and criticize Islam for diffrent interpretation yet there’s 200 individual sects of Christianity
Tu Quoque and Red Herring fallacy. You also assume that you have to be apart of a religion to be with Jesus
@@areallycoolhat5427 u are an ignoramus.
You know nothing about quranic sciences
I could only write down 19 other qurans or 20 including Hafs. Could you please list out the rest of the others. Thank you & GBU.
This Hatun Tash is amazing! The Lioness of Speakers Corner! She is a Legend!
i hope this video will be trending in my country
This is hugely important.
You're a skillful man to speak over these observers.
Is there a library list to search for this diferent versions of the Qurans online? The diferent version names and where to buy? Thanks!
They’re not versions it’s ways of saying words but the words in the quran are the same 100%
26 different versions in ARABIC, wow.
@jaysmith, perhaps you could make a team that can discuss/debate with a curious muslim that really want to learn.. Because I sense some of them might need to discuss privately, so that they can say their argument, and we can show them the prove more intense. I pray that your ministry be blessed and successfully reach out the muslims :)
Probably you could also prepare some material to be sell during the time on speakers corner, so the muslim who is interested could buy some. :)
Funny. I have been telling people for years there is more than one quran. It does not take a lot of research to figure that out. The 'stories' of the quran's were taken from 'religions' of different kinds... the Bible, pagans, etc... and they were written by scribes for centuries after muhammad's death, starting with mecca, then madina, and so on. EDIT: Actually, even before mecca. But mainly starting with mecca.
Why can't the Muslims listen quietly ....
Yes! The full clip!
Muslims answer is simple = LIAR LIAR LIAR LOL
Peter darlington-morgan that's the best argument that they have!
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What Hatun did is seriously amazing! Thank you for all the work you have done!
Nonsense! I say that Hafs' version is correct, and thus you fail!
@@ramizparkar4199 ah yes, because you say its right then it must be right!
@@imzzzera No, I said that for a reason!
@@ramizparkar4199poor moslem......you cant denied the fact n history......all you can say is your opinion😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 islam corrupted cult lol😂😂😂😂😂😂
26 versions of Muhammad's book of lies....oh dear...
i mean as a christian i always known the muslims boast on how the quran has never been changed not a word i took it as a benefit of dought but now i can clearly see that even if i blindly chose to go with the messiah jesus christ i was still right i guess the heart felt that jesus was too righteus to turn my back to i really feel bad for the muslims that have no chsnce of free choice with out loosing their life
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Hi David...can you please tell me what translated version of Qur'an are you using. ?
Truth is a bitter pill. But if it's got to be taken so be it. Let us not live in illusion and doubt. Claims can be only substantiated with truth not lies.
Thank you
It is from ignorance to talk about whatever book without knowing or understanding the language of that book.
You should know the difference between the american and british spelling, is there any meaning error when you read any known text context using one of them, of course not because doesn't matter the style of writing while the meaning is confirmed and every one write the word as he sounds it out. I mean I could write the Quran even using english letters while keeping the same recitation and spelling. What is important is the listener who should listen the same recitation as like arabic recitation, thus same meaning. I tell you more than that, the two men who would read text context using the american and british spelling, they will reach you the message by the the same way if a third illiterate man who memorieses the same text by heart. Regarding the Quran, it is the same thing, me personnaly, I memorise the whole Quran by heart form my cheikh who memorized it from reliable connected chain of cheikhs "machayekh" over the centeries connected to Abdullah ibn Masood from the Prophet peace be upon him from gebrayel from the God Allah.
This matter is not available for the other books because the people have lost the original talk from the God, where these books were revealed to specified people in a specified region not all mankind. Hence, Allah sent many books to people successively to remember them that there is no God but Allah, until coming the prophet Muhammed peace be upon him with the last revelation "The Quran" to all mankind any where in the earth, and Allah by his holy will and his own wisdom wanted to this Quran to be the final guidance and warning to mankind.
Allah says in the Quran:
"Whoever is guided is only guided for [the benefit of] his soul. And whoever errs only errs against it. And no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another. And never would We punish until We sent a messenger." surah Al Isra 15 (QS 17: 15)
In other verse He says:
"[O Prophet!] We have sent down to you the Book for mankind with the truth. Then whoever adopts the right way, will do so for his own soul, and whoever goes astray, injures his own soul. You are not their custodian." surah Az Zumar 41 (QS 39: 41)
May Allah guide you to the straight way if you open your heart without arrogance
or racine pride or religion background or how the others would see you.
Allah says in the Quran:
" So whoever Allah wants to guide - He expands his breast to [contain] Islam; and whoever He wants to misguide - He makes his breast tight and constricted as though he were climbing into the sky. Thus does Allah place defilement upon those who do not believe". surah Al An’am 125 (QS 6: 125) english translation.
Thanks
Thank you very much brother.
Allah is GREAT.
Literally, thank you. The video and comments made me faint from laughter. The amount of stupidity is not normal
The courage shown by Jay and Hatun, plus all those helping them, both at Speaker's Corner AND Pfander films, is actually awe inspiring. God bless you, and keep you and yours safe, in these perilous times. Prayers..
Nonsense! I say that Hafs' version is correct, and thus you fail!
the truth should prevail and the lies exposed. thank you bro David! you rock :)
Can I find on internet more information about this?
I'd recommend Dr. James White's debate with Shabir Ally on whether Muhammad is in the Bible, and his double-debate with Adnan Rashid on whether the New Testament is corrupted and whether the Qu'ran is corrupted, to any Muslim.
How can Mohammed be in the Bible when there was no existence of him as of the time of Christ ? Mohammed and his stories of violence, concur, and dominance emerged 600yrs after Christ.
I thought there was only one Quran. Now there are only 26 different Qurans. When an educated person does a little research all of Islam’s claims fall one by one.
No, in fact there is one Qur’an. The difference is that you used to say the word “water” in the American and British accents. This is the only difference, and sufficient evidence that we Muslims must recite certain surahs in our prayers, and from all parts of the world Muslims recite the same. Surahs of the Qur’an
This clip should be translated into every language❤
Those changes are insignificant because we still have the ORIGINAL Qur'an that Uthman recorded. There are even MORE variations of the Bible so if they still have faith in them they're hypocrites if they try to reject the Qur'an while retaining faith in their books.
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Hatum , what amazes me is that you were from an Islamic country but yet you can prove the Quran or Qurans are just not adding up! I admired your courage and endurance but he careful, ok !
Are these differences recorded in an article or book, so we can examine all of these (I got the impression that they haven't, but thought I'd clarify)? I didn't see anything seriously theologically damaging other than whether Allah gave one message/book, or several. The rest support the argument that the Qur'an is not textually unchanged, but I'm curious about theologically significant variants. Thanks!
Clearly you haven't watched the video in full. Just skip to the end to see the slides. Like Mormons Muslims claim the Quran has been written on golden tablets and have existed for all eternity and that not even one consonant has been changed by the hands of men. Clearly this isn't the case. I would wager 99.9% of Muslims are unfamiliar with this information.
What an awesome video. They have no argument on this now. God bless all involved in this work. Amen.
You said different readings not different meanings 3:17
Hatun's dedication to covering this issue is astounding to say the least. It's quite clear in this video that she has a commendable knowledge from an outsider's perspective and that she's deserving of a lot more attention from those that are trying to understand Islam. My only complaint is that she kept being interrupted. While I certainly liked some of what Jay had to say in backing up things she said, emphasizing to the crowd certain bits of information, and contribution to the discussion with both her and the crowd, it would have been nice to see it scaled back a bit. It's also unfortunate that those amongst the crowd interrupted her so frequently as well. Definitely too much yelling but I guess that's what you should expect when questioning another's religion.
in 2020, a muslim scholar Fadel Solaiman compiled 10 qiraat in a book Bridges' translation of 10 qiraat of noble quran (exact title you can google) and of course Hatun bought that and use that book. It has hundreds of footnote explaining that this word in this quran is not the same with that quran
@@lukesusilo2112 Nonsense! I say that Hafs' version is correct, and thus Christians fail!
Nonsense! I say that Hafs' version is correct, and thus you fail!
I hope and pray these Arabs Muslims will be equally energetic for Jesus after they are saved. God bless your work, Jay
Jay and Hatun do excellent work in showing how there are different versions of the Quran.
Good job, and thank you for the work.
150K subscribers. Woo Hooo!
It's crazy how everyone believed that these two discovered the 26 different Qurans
You are crazy for believing that there is one quran
@@ahmadj3353 Well there is only 1 Quran
1, Qaloon
2, Al- susi(ibn-katheer)
3, Khaled
4, Idrees
5, Warsh
6, Hafs Ad- Dury (Abu - Amro alBasri)
7, Al- Laith
8, Al- Bazzi
9, Al- Azraq
10, As - Susi (Abu Amro alBasri)
11, Ad - Dury (alkisa'i)
12, Ibn shanboodh
13, Al - Asbahaani
14, Hisham
15, Ibn Dhakwan
16, Isa BinWardan
17, Sulayman
18, Ibn Jammaz
19, Ahmad bin Farah
20, Qunbul
21, Showba
22, Ruwais
23, Shujaa' bin Abi Nasr Al- Balakhi
24, Abu Amro Al - Ala
25, Hafs
26, Ruh
27, Al - Dury(Al Hasan AlBasri)
28, Hafs Al - Dury(ibn kathir)
29, khalf
30, Ishaq
31, Al Hasan bin Said Al- Matuu'l
32, Abu - Farah Al- Shan - budhi
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these are called different styles of recitation and not all of them are authentic because they were not revealed this way, there are only 20 correct riwayat @@strangerares
different words , different meanings , different grammar@@hollandstoun
This a comedy show ,so entertaining
Hello David, does Jay Smith make any of that research about these 26 different versions of the Qur'an available? if so where can I find it? thanks!
kornel91 he does readily, I think you could just google him in connection with 26 Qurans but he has done many other videos on the subject, just search RUclips!
Jay Smith and Hatun Tash AMAZINGGG! Can we make flyers out of this so we can spreas this information EVERYWHERE in EVERY mosque and school!!! i want to spread them in my home country the Netherlands! i will help translate them in Dutch! Please let's do this!
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Regarding the 7 readings ways in the Quran, there are some words and speaking styles used according to different spellings of arabic regions, where each region use proper words to describe an event by a way that differs to other regions but they all make a complete meaning from other angles with more clarification and understanding, like reading in Active and Passive form or Singular and plural nouns without loss of generality. This matter in the Quran makes it miraculous book not like any other book.
Some examples in the Quran:
Ittakhizzou and ittakhazou (Take and they took)
Explanation: when we read the complete verses we will know that Allah order us to take from the place of Ibrahim as a place prayer as (the earlier people in Ismail’s time) as they took from the place of Ibrahim as a place prayer at that time.
Naghfur and Yughfur (We shall forgive you your sins and your sins shall be forgiven)
Explanation: when we read the context of the complete verse we will know that it is in Active and Passive form where in the second word "Yughfur" the reader knows implicitly who is the forgiver.
Yakzebuuna and Yukazzubuuna (They lie and They accuse of lying)
Explanation: when we read the complete verses we will know that the meant people have the quality of lying and accusing others of lying.
Miskeenen and Massakeena (a poor and poor men)
Explanation: when we read the context of the complete verse we will know that the meaning is:
For those who cannot fasting a day in Ramadan (With hardship), there is a ransom, the feeding of one man or or more (this is point of different readings because it depends to the capability of feeding).
Qaatala and Qutila (Fight and were killed)
Explanation: The verse is: "How many of the prophets fought (in Allah's way)" and "How many of the prophets were killed (in Allah's way)"
when we look at this verse we will see the scene image from two angles where there were prophets who fought without being killed and others were killed (in Allah's way).
Summarizing the subject, the 7 readings of the Quran is a miraculous matter not like what they say those who don’t know neither the Arabic language nor the historical events because they look at these matter by one eye with my respect to the honest Christians.
The golden advice is to not judge any book without reading it, understanding, questioning the scholars about it not the superficial brains
All the best
@@saidghendir1038 if there are different, it means the quran is not perfect word for word....it changes as long as language changes....the quran is not one but of different versions if we have regions having different renderings
@@tayetosho9620 you didn't yet understand the matter
God only knows Arabic? If God only knows one language then what makes him God? 🤔
w()W.. just wow. How they kept calm and sane and loving with humor after all that is a testimony to God in itself.
I watched the whole thing and my head aches and I'm tired. praise the Lord for His equipping of the saints. God bless and continue to inspire and empower you all as you bring light to a dark place.
Please do not bias.. listen to the Muslims scholar explaination.. hatun and Dr gay Smith don't know what they are talking about..
Wow, Hatun Tash, you sure did a lot of work to find all those differences. I commend you for such dedication and I pray that Muslims will consider why there are so many (or any) differences. May many come to the Truth!
H Jordan Already been debunked
Can you write arbic. No, nikashi, rismul khat. Style of writing. English calligraphy, copper plate writing.
To all christian here can you give me a website link (but not youtube) that show all the difference that they talk about....
What are the origins of the 26?
She is so pretty as well as intelligent.
Thank you.
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And to everyone involved. This is a great vid, thank you.
Answered by Dr Yasir Qadhi....
I just started following Acts17Apologetics. Although this is almost 3 years old, I would suggest that those who are defending the one Quran position, pick out the right one. Then ask a few more the same. Then when they differ, ask them how they know each of them picked the right one. Amazing how the Muslims are so dogmatic about Allah keeping their book pure when the evidence is right there in front of them that he didn't. Imams are the greatest purveyors of lies satan has ever produced. The best way to do this is to have them bring their personal copies and ask them all to look at the version they have.
The only response they have is to disrupt, not presenting any facts. Make a loud noise and attempt to steal/hide the evidence... This makes their case look so ridiculously stupid. Wow.
So...they're pointing out the Qira'at? This is known. Is that it?
I really love this video... LOL
you're doing wrong Quran is the word of God and no one can change this book.
and God promised to us that: Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 2:
ذَٰلِكَ الْكِتَابُ لَا رَيْبَ فِيهِ هُدًى لِّلْمُتَّقِينَ
This is the Book (the Quran), whereof there is no doubt, a guidance to those who are Al-Muttaqun [the pious and righteous persons who fear Allah much (abstain from all kinds of sins and evil deeds which He has forbidden) and love Allah much (perform all kinds of good deeds which He has ordained)].
But unfortunately you're insulting our religion and you're anti Islam religion, but you can not destroy that..!
talk about your religion talk about your books mistake and has been deleted the name of prophet Mohammad (Peace Be Upon Him) from Gospel...
how can solve your trinity?
please go and solve your problems.
The goat of aisha ate it
When ever Quran preservation is debunked they bring Bible to the words.But the problem is we Christians never claimed that Bible is eternal like Quran and will never change bcz we know it's possible bcz if a human want's he could change it bcz it's not been controlled by some Government. Even though Quran was controlled by Government they have so much variation so just think what if it wasn't controlled by Government then it would have break a record for variations.
does David make money off his videos? just curious
no hes been demonitized
according to Muslims the Quran exist also in heaven as a perfect copy and that it is the same with other Quran in the world today....this makes the one in heaven the original copy(Manuscript) and all others are copies. How do we know whether the one`s in the world are the same with the one in heaven(Manuscript). There is no way to verify this making them all copies without a manuscript. They should drop the reasoning that it is the same as the one in heaven since no one has ever seen it to verify whether they are the same.
allah said he will preserve it..also the quran has never changed in first place to say how we know this version is the right one..
the simple fact is that none of the differences, whether vocal or graphic, between quiraat has any great effect on the meaning..many are the differences which do not change the meaning at all, and the rest are differences with an effect on the meaning in the immediate context of the text itself, but without any significant wider influence on muslim thought..
so you will not find a word that is added or a word that is deleted between different quiraat..trust me this accusation is so ridiculous
Ahmen, whether it has a great effect or not is irrelevant. The claim made by Muslims is that thee is only one Quran. That Muslims all across the world recite the same thing. But here we have differences which you even confirm, meaning, there has never been this so-called one Quran.
great job both of them. Expose islamic lies.
Jay Smith is a great scholar. Muslims know it very well.
They still wont come to their semses
In the hadith that Hatun's mantioned Sahih al-Bukhari hadith no 4987, I think the issue is problem of different canonization Qur'an. Because in the hadith Anas said "O chief of the Believers! Save this nation before they differ about the Book (Qur'an) as Jews and the Christians did before." but Hatun didn't tell that part. Jews and Christians have problem that canonized the book of Tanakh and New Testament. Today we have different Bible's. For example Protestants accepts Old Testament have 39 books, New Testament 27 books. However Catholics and Orthodox Christians agreed in New Testament but Old Testament they are more books accepts. If we look deeper the issiue we see in New Testament 1 john 5:7 removed some translations. In my Turkish Bible there is no 1 john 5:7. But in KJV version or Catholic version there is 1 john 5:7. Another example is Mattew 22:44 quotes Old Testament. But in the Old Testament Pslams 110:1 don't said my lord to said to my lord. My LORD said to my master. Why you didn't tell your Christian friends that issues? Wow, you guess what, your scholars also lied to us. Sorry for my bad English but I tried to explain the issue for my understanding. By the way I am not a Muslim.