It is saddeningly fascinating how all Muslims and pro-Islam speakers immediately start using the _tu quoque_ fallacy (“you also”) the moment that you criticise Islam, so as to deflect criticism away from the actual topic. In this case, the topic is Qur’an, but look at what the loudmouths are shouting: “Your Bible has many versions too!” More information: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_hypocrisy
This is the debating strategies of Muslims, if their philosophy is attacked, they find weakness in the person making the accusations. It doesn't matter whether those guys are Christians or Jews, the argument is multiple version of Quran and that's what they should defend against.
Dear confused atheists: Yes, we Christians acknowledge that there are textual variations in our holy book too (though none that impact any doctrine, major or minor). The reason why this admission is so destructive to Islam is that they claim that the Qur'an was directly dictated by Allah, and that Allah preserved it unchanged until today. Christianity isn't proven false by falsifying a claim it never made; Islam is proven false by falsifying a claim it has always made.
+Klaus von Zeit And The scholarship on the Bible is clear. If there were numerous variables and changes to it, that news would be on the nightly news every night.
We believe that Quran came in different accents and modes ..It's so funny..It's from the time of the prophet that there are different modes of the Quran..And this argument is so childish..😂😂
*Blatantly reads straight from Qu'ran.* "Show me the truth! You're lying!!!" -Muslim ".....We JUST showed you!" "You're a liar! Allahu'akbar!" (so intelligent and discerning.........)
Lol, the same happened to me, one of my friends said the Quran doesn't encourage violence, I show him a couple of violent verses, he says that when you look at the context, you will see it's about defending. I show him the violent context and he responds and keeps yelling how the Quran doesn't have violent verses.
It's hilarious, I keep hearing the one guy yell "what about the bible"... He doesn't bother arguing about the Quran being flawed, just goes completely rogue and changes the subject. Sounds like a liberal !
That's what bothers me the most. Even the scholars won't talk about the flaws of the Qur'an. They're just going to try and derail the conversation. Much more effective. Unless you're talking to people with a brain.
***** That's pathetic. They have to do that shit to keep people in check. It doesn't help their case and it certainly doesn't help the community. Islam is like a gigantic clusterfuck of an illustration of everything that's wrong with stagnation. It's like you could look at Islam and its followers and say: look at what happens when you refuse to see the truth and mindlessly follow people or, better yet, a 1400 years old book.
***** I don't agree on that, actually. The most important thing is not the nightmares, but the fact that those things are told from infancies. I was raised a Christian, but without the menace of hellfire. Still to this day, I have a hard time shaking off some superstitions my family got me into. But not because of any actual fear.
Her voice is very light and hard to hear but it looks like both of them compliment each other - him having a good voice to get the message out. Thanks for the work both of you and whoever is behind the scenes. Anyway - God Bless you all.
This summer we had 2 or 3 super hero movies but these two Christians are the true super heroes for speaking truth with love and bravery. Add this brother and sister as Heroes of the faith! Be blessed!
Scum are cowards like their pdf.file idol Mu Ham Mad. No need to fear this demonic scum philosophy and it's rat infested followers, helpers or profiteers.
God bless you Jay, Hatun, Beth and others for doing this. God bless you David for uploading this, and God protect all of you. We know how crazy and senseless they are.
This Video was eye opening, so well done to Jay Smith and the team and thank you Mr wood for posting it. Let's all continue to pray for the Muslim's and other non believer's, to come to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.
"No one lights a lamp and puts it in a place where it will be hidden, or under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, so that those who come in may see the light.
This is awesome. It shows that when you talk about a subject and people automatically tries to bring the bible into this. The guy is not talking about the bible. They are taking about the Koran and be aware.
Hatun and Jay... Your patience and cheerful attitude in the face of such an angry storm blows my mind. When you're in heaven someday and out of the blue a random guy you never met gives you a big hug, that'll be me! 😂
Joshua Hults I think you would have to agree that RUclips is a terrible place to find an honest debate. People are much more reasonable with their arguments when they could get punched in the face. Not that I punch people, but I think you know what I mean.
Viktir E huh ? Just press play lol. Muslims just scream and put their fingers everywhere when live. No matter where you talk to a muslim, they become irrational. I showed a muslims all the sources that said muhammed was a pedophile and he said, " We don't know 1400 years ago if girls matured faster. " ( Face palm ) This is what you are up against, not rational people.
Joshua Hults I know that's true, but at least you can get a few people who are onthe fence to hear you out. On youtube you're kinda stuck with people who are just feeling argumentative.
Viktir E not really. Going live you see muslims pulling other muslims aside to brain wash them. Online that does not happen. You can debunk all of them for all to see without their chants of allahu akbar getting in the way.
Is there any PDF content available? or a website? showing all these differences I can cite & credit to your website? I have many Muslim friends & I need to wake them up
Well done jay! Everyone complaining about sound quality, it can get bad but this is packed with brilliant information about the man made Quran! Totally worth bearing with the noise of the Muslims panicking in the background lol.May the mighty Lord God Jesus Christ bless you all!
The angry muslim guy in the beginning who couldn't stand the truth, reminds me of myself when I was a Jehovah's witness. I was totally close-minded to listen to any other information that was contrary to what I've been thaught. Totally discouarged to any critical thinking. I was so brainwashed by the Watchtower and Tract Society that I was discouraged to listen to other sources and I do research without Watchtower material. Because... According to WT only they have the truth and are the true religion. They put fear in their members. And don't you dare to question their teachings or do your own research without their material. Because you will be considered an "apostate"and you will be excommunicated. I was so scared to be excommunicated that I literally left my country and started a new life in another country. The FEAR was overwhelming! This is what a cult does to you! I've luckily overcome this ordeal and now I feel peace, joy and satisfaction because I've finally found the Truth-->Jesus Christ! These are some signs you are in a cult: 1. Opposing critical thinking 2. Isolating members and penalizing them for leaving 3. Emphasizing special doctrines outside scripture 4. Seeking inappropriate loyalty to their leaders 5. Dishonoring the family unit 6. Crossing Biblical boundaries of behavior (versus sexual purity and personal ownership) 7. Separation from the Church My prayers goes to all of you who are struggling to get out of a cult. I want to let You know that there is Hope! Much love!
This is the best video on RUclips!!! And Jay is the perfect man to do this! O how i love this man!! If he is on a Marketplace selling flowers, would you not buy from him?
This is the classical Muslim response to anything that disputes their beliefs: - Doubt, Distract, Disrupt and seek to Dominate by force. O ye hard of heart, listen to reason and listen to the voice of the Spirit of God.
Wow...that is really embarrassing! I've heard that there was only one, and it had never changed--according to the Muslim faithful. What a total smack-down.
*Muslims it's officially over now even you know it* come back to the light come back to Jesus your only hope for peace in this world and the hereafter otherwise you will continue live in fear forever
"Talk about the Bible!" And then they go apeshit. Fucking hell. Also, their hivemind is fantastic. We should borrow their technology for the military. Oh wait, we've got better than that.
"Why don't you talk about the Bible? You are not a Muslim, so why do you care about the Quran?!" He's not a Christian, so why does he care about the Bible? ;)
It's rather funny & sad hearing how incredibly scared & insecure the muslims are with all their noise-making; no arguments or defenses, just loud, obnoxious immaturity.
i heard that theres some different words or letters but the issue is that some muslims claimed that there arent even differences in letters over the years
HAHAHAHA this is brilliant .... a Muslim friend of mine used the unchanged Koran as an argument once, wish I saw this back then... also I love how nobody can actually defend anything in Islam, instead they just shift focus to talking about things in the Bible or Christianity
This is important because muslim always accusing christian has changed the bible and quraan have never changed and perfect! People this world need to know this! Sadly, david wood only got little viewers while dawah and muslim confronting the christian are so widely many. We people need to spread this. Even atheist people need to know this to bash Islam Ideology. Spread through out the world! No surrender! I'm from the country with the biggest population muslim in the world but I ain't just quite. What about you western people that living in the free country? Can't you see they are anti democracy and freedom? You people that watching this are the hope from ignorance and liberal's "hero face"! Stand up for Jesus and stand up for freedom! Don't let them use democracy to take your country.
But what are the most authoritative Qur'an, hadith, sira? I heard you read to us from Sahih Muslim and Al-Bukhari. If I want to read the Qur'an or hadith or sira. Witch one should I read from David?
Jeez dude... I don't know how you can sit through such a debate, this is nuts. Just yelling and yelling and yelling. Whenever Jay says something they try to yell to make him stop. Let him finish his point if you really want to debate him...
Damn he has one of the best speaking voices. Like he was made to preach. God Bless.
It is saddeningly fascinating how all Muslims and pro-Islam speakers immediately start using the _tu quoque_ fallacy (“you also”) the moment that you criticise Islam, so as to deflect criticism away from the actual topic. In this case, the topic is Qur’an, but look at what the loudmouths are shouting: “Your Bible has many versions too!”
More information: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_hypocrisy
thank you for the exposition on the logical fallacy
This is the debating strategies of Muslims, if their philosophy is attacked, they find weakness in the person making the accusations. It doesn't matter whether those guys are Christians or Jews, the argument is multiple version of Quran and that's what they should defend against.
Exactly!
They dont even realize they are themselves proving the bible to be the standard. If the BIBLE.....then its ok...lol
watch what I commented.. we'll understand InShaAllah.
This is a brave, strong woman of God! Bless you my worrier sister! Praying for you.
Thanks David. Didn't know their was 26 different version of the Koran. Thought their was five. God bless those who preach the truth.
Dear confused atheists: Yes, we Christians acknowledge that there are textual variations in our holy book too (though none that impact any doctrine, major or minor). The reason why this admission is so destructive to Islam is that they claim that the Qur'an was directly dictated by Allah, and that Allah preserved it unchanged until today. Christianity isn't proven false by falsifying a claim it never made; Islam is proven false by falsifying a claim it has always made.
+Klaus von Zeit And The scholarship on the Bible is clear. If there were numerous variables and changes to it, that news would be on the nightly news every night.
Well written Klaus.
calm, respectful and to the point. you have my attention.
We believe that Quran came in different accents and modes ..It's so funny..It's from the time of the prophet that there are different modes of the Quran..And this argument is so childish..😂😂
From no where in the world came jay Smith showing us difernces in the Quran which is from the time of prophet😂😂😆😆😆
*Blatantly reads straight from Qu'ran.* "Show me the truth! You're lying!!!" -Muslim
".....We JUST showed you!"
"You're a liar! Allahu'akbar!" (so intelligent and discerning.........)
...Are you daughter of Yusuf Yates?
Lol, the same happened to me, one of my friends said the Quran doesn't encourage violence, I show him a couple of violent verses, he says that when you look at the context, you will see it's about defending. I show him the violent context and he responds and keeps yelling how the Quran doesn't have violent verses.
Yeah. Such denial, its baffling!
+Giriyas No, I'm sorry. That's actually my married last name.
Dianna Yates
...I am sorry.....I was kidding....
It's hilarious, I keep hearing the one guy yell "what about the bible"... He doesn't bother arguing about the Quran being flawed, just goes completely rogue and changes the subject. Sounds like a liberal !
Nope, sounds like a Muslim!
Every time he yelled that I was like "Yes! Tell them about the bible, and how God can have a Son, the Christ and of salvation!"
That's what bothers me the most. Even the scholars won't talk about the flaws of the Qur'an. They're just going to try and derail the conversation. Much more effective. Unless you're talking to people with a brain.
*****
That's pathetic. They have to do that shit to keep people in check. It doesn't help their case and it certainly doesn't help the community. Islam is like a gigantic clusterfuck of an illustration of everything that's wrong with stagnation. It's like you could look at Islam and its followers and say: look at what happens when you refuse to see the truth and mindlessly follow people or, better yet, a 1400 years old book.
*****
I don't agree on that, actually. The most important thing is not the nightmares, but the fact that those things are told from infancies. I was raised a Christian, but without the menace of hellfire. Still to this day, I have a hard time shaking off some superstitions my family got me into. But not because of any actual fear.
wow! great job. thanks for sharing Dave! i will have to watch the long video tonight!.
I admire Jay and Hatun greatly, they are doing amazing work.
I pray the Lord will keep these Truth-tellers safe from angry, vindictive Muslims.
Amen
amen
amen
Amen
amen
I am 18 minutes in, and I really don't know how much more of the audio that I can take.
*****
I would say that he has some experience with doing it. It would be very difficult.
+Turk Sandwich Would totally have lost my voice a few minutes in or gotten really tired
I'm struggling at 1:52! I wanna finish, but the yelling... (x_X)
skip to 46 minutes in. He shows the differences.
less screaming and more auditable at about 50 minutes in
Her voice is very light and hard to hear but it looks like both of them compliment each other - him having a good voice to get the message out.
Thanks for the work both of you and whoever is behind the scenes.
Anyway - God Bless you all.
Those were some triggered Muslims. Get them to a safe space.
Don't make the Muslim kids angry
I was just thinking the same. They're like toddlers.
Lefties and Muslims at least have one similarity. Both bury their heads in the sand when their ideologies are challenged.
LOL!!!
;o)
Haha that guy eating the ice cream in the back ground be like"i'm just enjoying the show"
Patrick Hutton ... You are doing amazing work. May God bless you and your family and all your descendants .
Jay Smith is awesome.......26 books filled with filth, I'll buy some and use it for toilet paper :)
Haha
+abubakar abdirahman allah is satan ( shaitaan ). allah tickled mohammad's arse every night.
+abubakar abdirahman ur Allah is a shirk
+abubakar abdirahman right along with u
Mike Smith... try it and if your ass will not burn
God blessed Jay with focus and a big voice, and a whole lot of patience & bravery :-).
Wow, thats a really long video....... *grabs popcorn*
Muslims do not like when non muslims talk about Qur'an, but they always talk about our Bible.
This summer we had 2 or 3 super hero movies but these two Christians are the true super heroes for speaking truth with love and bravery. Add this brother and sister as Heroes of the faith! Be blessed!
Scum are cowards like their pdf.file idol Mu Ham Mad. No need to fear this demonic scum philosophy and it's rat infested followers, helpers or profiteers.
God bless you Jay, Hatun, Beth and others for doing this. God bless you David for uploading this, and God protect all of you. We know how crazy and senseless they are.
LOL at the guy who keeps on saying "two bible! Two bible" as holding up two different "translations".
Wow this is amazing! Thank you for exposing Islam!
This Video was eye opening, so well done to Jay Smith and the team and thank you Mr wood for posting it.
Let's all continue to pray for the Muslim's and other non believer's, to come to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.
😂😂😂😂
Love the guy eating ice cream in the background
We know this for long time, but you bring it out publically. This is the truth
"No one lights a lamp and puts it in a place where it will be hidden, or under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, so that those who come in may see the light.
This is awesome. It shows that when you talk about a subject and people automatically tries to bring the bible into this. The guy is not talking about the bible. They are taking about the Koran and be aware.
I feel burdened to pray for Jay Smith's safety after watching this. I pray he also keeps up the good work.
Great work Jay. great woman instead of mocking of Muslims she kept smiling.
When Muslims are present, Speaker's Corner has to become Shouter's Corner.
Hatun and Jay... Your patience and cheerful attitude in the face of such an angry storm blows my mind. When you're in heaven someday and out of the blue a random guy you never met gives you a big hug, that'll be me! 😂
From the 1st minute they're trying to change the topic :'D lol
This must be what it sounds like when your worldview is being shattered into gazillion pieces
why never can muslims just listen and shut up and if that man is ready then talk
David, is it possible to get those different copies of Quran?
Men like this make it obvious to me that I'm wasting too much time. I wish we had a place like speakers corner. It's such a great concept.
we have youtube. Also you tell the truth to Americans about islam and they call it hate speech. We have a long ways to go.
Joshua Hults I think you would have to agree that RUclips is a terrible place to find an honest debate. People are much more reasonable with their arguments when they could get punched in the face. Not that I punch people, but I think you know what I mean.
Viktir E huh ? Just press play lol. Muslims just scream and put their fingers everywhere when live. No matter where you talk to a muslim, they become irrational. I showed a muslims all the sources that said muhammed was a pedophile and he said, " We don't know 1400 years ago if girls matured faster. " ( Face palm ) This is what you are up against, not rational people.
Joshua Hults I know that's true, but at least you can get a few people who are onthe fence to hear you out. On youtube you're kinda stuck with people who are just feeling argumentative.
Viktir E not really. Going live you see muslims pulling other muslims aside to brain wash them. Online that does not happen. You can debunk all of them for all to see without their chants of allahu akbar getting in the way.
Is there any PDF content available? or a website? showing all these differences I can cite & credit to your website? I have many Muslim friends & I need to wake them up
You got them soooooooo good Jay, this is Gods revelation, wow amazing!
Well done jay! Everyone complaining about sound quality, it can get bad but this is packed with brilliant information about the man made Quran! Totally worth bearing with the noise of the Muslims panicking in the background lol.May the mighty Lord God Jesus Christ bless you all!
The angry muslim guy in the beginning who couldn't stand the truth, reminds me of myself when I was a Jehovah's witness. I was totally close-minded to listen to any other information that was contrary to what I've been thaught. Totally discouarged to any critical thinking. I was so brainwashed by the Watchtower and Tract Society that I was discouraged to listen to other sources and I do research without Watchtower material. Because...
According to WT only they have the truth and are the true religion. They put fear in their members. And don't you dare to question their teachings or do your own research without their material. Because you will be considered an "apostate"and you will be excommunicated. I was so scared to be excommunicated that I literally left my country and started a new life in another country. The FEAR was overwhelming! This is what a cult does to you!
I've luckily overcome this ordeal and now I feel peace, joy and satisfaction because I've finally found the Truth-->Jesus Christ!
These are some signs you are in a cult:
1. Opposing critical thinking
2. Isolating members and penalizing them for leaving
3. Emphasizing special doctrines outside scripture
4. Seeking inappropriate loyalty to their leaders
5. Dishonoring the family unit
6. Crossing Biblical boundaries of behavior (versus sexual purity and personal ownership)
7. Separation from the Church
My prayers goes to all of you who are struggling to get out of a cult. I want to let You know that there is Hope!
Much love!
islandgirlxx God bless you, hopefully the LORD can use you to help people.
Nice touch using Heart of Courage as the theme music, they must have really prayed up before going out there to show those people that much patience.
Love Jay's face expression when he says look at all the variants!
This is the best video on RUclips!!! And Jay is the perfect man to do this! O how i love this man!! If he is on a Marketplace selling flowers, would you not buy from him?
Love Jay at Speakers' Corner!
Lol this video is criminally underrated this was hilarious I can only imagine what you guys went through that day I know it wasn't easy God bless you
Two steps from hell protectors of earth xD
good pick David good pick!
This is the classical Muslim response to anything that disputes their beliefs: - Doubt, Distract, Disrupt and seek to Dominate by force. O ye hard of heart, listen to reason and listen to the voice of the Spirit of God.
Dang...this guy is on a roll.
Ballsy....but necessary.
Much respect.
I'm sorry I wish I could be there to join in on the fun! That one Muslim keeps mimicking the woman every time she talks. LOL LOL😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
A mic would have been helpful
That's what I thought
+S Broward true!
+Roshan Lewis wow!
Your word is a lamp for my feet, a light on my path.
Somebody is just there for ice creams 😄
But many of the Muslims are there for "I scream".
+HaecceitasQuidditas haha
LOL! XD good one.
franson and a happy
Meal 🍴
بارك الله فيك أخ منصور وزادك الله علما
they see me trollin', they hatin'
Jay truly does raise his voice like a trumpet
Thank God for this brother's work.
Wow! What a lovely gathering on a beautiful day! ❤❤❤👍
David when are you going to be on the Steven Crowder show?
very interesting... i did not know these facts. Thanks
Ouch! 26?
And counting (i'm the guy with the hat holding several of the Qur'ans)
+Patrick Hutton Great work
Support from Canada
Not as far as I'm aware. However what was heard will God willing sink in and start the process.
Patrick Hutton ... You are doing amazing work. May God bless you and your family and all your descendants .
Thank you for sharing this video David
Fighting the good fight...valiant!
David, I wish you'd do a series of videos explaining this guy's points without all the audience screaming that makes Tash and Smith hard to hear.
Their behavior reminds me of how Shaitan farts so he doesn't hear the call to prayer.
+Acts17Apologetics Can you give me a link or the names of the 26 different versions of the Quran please?
God bless you Sister Hatun, strong Christian Woman:)
JESUS is the LORD
God bless Hatun.
Every second of every day.
Thank you.
why you talking about Koran your not Muslim... let's talk about the Bible, but he's not a Christian... arbitrary claims abound.
Wow...that is really embarrassing! I've heard that there was only one, and it had never changed--according to the Muslim faithful. What a total smack-down.
*Muslims it's officially over now even you know it* come back to the light come back
to Jesus your only hope for peace in this world and the hereafter otherwise you will continue live in fear forever
to really make those Muslim mad... Jay and Hatun's people should respond to the Takbir by responding... Isa-hu-Akbar!!!
"Talk about the Bible!"
And then they go apeshit. Fucking hell.
Also, their hivemind is fantastic. We should borrow their technology for the military. Oh wait, we've got better than that.
keep up the good work
"Why don't you talk about the Bible? You are not a Muslim, so why do you care about the Quran?!"
He's not a Christian, so why does he care about the Bible? ;)
Its true ,they only have One Quran Sir,But at least 26 variants. all different.amazing !
God bless you my berather I believe all Muslim open their eyes
This was great.... :)
It's rather funny & sad hearing how incredibly scared & insecure the muslims are with all their noise-making; no arguments or defenses, just loud, obnoxious immaturity.
I'd love to see Shabir respond to this topic, David.
The More I watch this video I fall in love with Jesus even more
Muslims are pulling Muslims away🤣
If Islam is right religion than why they feel so insecure?
God bless Christian team ✝️🙏❤️
The evil spirits always manifest when the truth comes out.
That guy on the right casually eating ice-cream cracks me up. 😂
Speakers corner has like many things been ruined by Muslims...
Excellent truth! Thank you for sharing
All 26 copies says something different? WTF?
i heard that theres some different words or letters but the issue is that some muslims claimed that there arent even differences in letters over the years
HAHAHAHA this is brilliant .... a Muslim friend of mine used the unchanged Koran as an argument once, wish I saw this back then... also I love how nobody can actually defend anything in Islam, instead they just shift focus to talking about things in the Bible or Christianity
Islam is rising and thousands are converting every day. No matter how hard you try Islam rise more and more. Salam Alaikum
and tens of thousands are leaving islam , it's the avalanche of apostasy
True 50,000 mosques are closed in Iran!!!
WITHOUT LIES, ISLAM DIES.
Fastest growing religion that’s a FACT even western countries start believing that Islam bring true spirit of monotheism😆
ABSOLUTELY DELUSIONAL 😂🤣
Great job Jay!
"Version" is different from "Translation"
Key takeaway: Cognitive dissonance makes one behave like an animal.
This is important because muslim always accusing christian has changed the bible and quraan have never changed and perfect! People this world need to know this! Sadly, david wood only got little viewers while dawah and muslim confronting the christian are so widely many. We people need to spread this. Even atheist people need to know this to bash Islam Ideology.
Spread through out the world! No surrender! I'm from the country with the biggest population muslim in the world but I ain't just quite. What about you western people that living in the free country? Can't you see they are anti democracy and freedom? You people that watching this are the hope from ignorance and liberal's "hero face"! Stand up for Jesus and stand up for freedom! Don't let them use democracy to take your country.
I'm watching that boy eat the ice cream while the world explodes around him lol.
They sound demon possessed lol
But what are the most authoritative Qur'an, hadith, sira? I heard you read to us from Sahih Muslim and Al-Bukhari. If I want to read the Qur'an or hadith or sira. Witch one should I read from David?
quran, al bukari, and sahib muslim. These three are all the most authoritative muslim sources.
+Required Shrimp0 But im confused, is Sahih Muslim the writer who produced both the Qur'an, hadith and the sira?
Well done Jay.
Jeez dude... I don't know how you can sit through such a debate, this is nuts. Just yelling and yelling and yelling. Whenever Jay says something they try to yell to make him stop. Let him finish his point if you really want to debate him...
Glory to the only thrue God, the holy Trinity. +
Allah**
@@blakeemel3819 Allah is a stone found in Mecca
I'm just at the 30 minute mark... damn seriously next time bring a mic!