24" x 24" and why?
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- Опубликовано: 23 апр 2024
- For all those that still as why???
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No matter how far or how many hits you make - you and Sam are doing it together and that right there is precious time well spent with the short time we have on this earth.
We are grateful that you put in so much effort to take us along for the ride. Thank you both.
Agreed. Thanks Will.
Thanks Mark for all you do for us, I really enjoy your channel and I’ve learned a lot. Also I admire you and Sam working together as a team. You can tell it’s always safety first. The way Sam keeps watch and lets you know, “all clear, good to go”. Awesome 👍
Thanks very much John. Cheers from both of us
😊....I have a place in central Arkansas that I have permission to shoot out to 850 yards and I have to leave as if I never arrived so I carry my 8×8 or 12×12 steel and frame out to set up. How on earth you are able to manage a 24×24 is impressive. Good stuff as always.
Awesome. Yes location can sometimes be a challenge. Thanks Will.
East Tennessee 😢 looking for 1200+ it’s been a challenge for years now.
There should be a couple of options available. If you are willing to take the trip to VA you can go to bangsteel and they go out to 2165 yards at times. I also know there are a couple of ~1k ranges in the east TN area. Hope this helps.@@joeseph6399
West/south west Arkansas here, mountains make it tricky but there's a place or 2!
Northwest Arkansas here. I've got a handful of places I can shoot between 800-1000, one where I can get 1400, and two where I can shoot a mile plus a bit.
All about knowing the neighbors, lol
I love the attitude and perspective you have on teamwork and ELR. Keep on sending it!
Sure will. Cheers and all the best
Well put Mark. Despite your modesty, you're one of the best ELR shooters in the world. Everyone who does this stuff, knows it. You set great examples for others to emulate.
Keep up the great work, cheers from central Minnesota.
Thanks you Tim, Cheers Man
Love it, keep up the fantastic team work. We can learn a lot from the love that you two have for each other. Thanks for being such a wonderful example. ❤
Thank you sir, all the best, Cheers
As a hunter, the game I'm hunting never gets any bigger either, so i really appreciate what and how you're doing things!
Thanks Man, Cheers
Yes that is doing very well & yes it’s the consistency of the overall group & completely agree with the teamwork side.
Thanks very much Merv. And thanks for your support. Cheers
Thanks, feel exactly the same way. Glad you put it out there.
Cheers Greg, and thanks for your support. All the best from both of us
Well explained Mark, You and Sam always do a great job! Its a great feeling doing things with your better half that you both love to do.
Thanks Man, Cheers
What a great team you guys are. Thanks so much from the shooting community.
Thanks Craig, Cheers
And Miss. Sam is one heck of a spotter.
Sure is. Thanks Richard
That lady can shoot better than most of us out here watching, multi talented, cheers Yogi 🤙✌️
Excellent words from the ELR master regards to you and Sam 👌👌
Thanks Chris, Cheers Man
You both are a great Team ♥
Thanks Man
Nice one Mark, wise words as always. Keep up the great work! You are so right, most peeps want to see the hit, not the effort that gets you out there. I'm all about the group too.
Thanks Man, Cheers
Love your channel! Always top tier info!
Thanks Curtis. Cheers
Wow man almost 500k subs.....well done.
I always knew you'd be one of the channels that got big..
And you do it without having to do special effects or theatrics....
Always learn something from your vids....👍
Thank you sir, glad you like, Cheers
Great philosophy, I’d love you guys to run us through a typical handloading video , of things u do to make things work that little bit better , keep up the great work cheers Wrighty
Thanks Man, we have a few videos discussing that, will probably do another if RUclips lets us, Cheers
Your are so right that it is the precision (group) and accuracy (center of tgt) that matters. If you (the group) is within one MOA thats extremely good even if not all shots hit the plate - standard deviation dictates that not all shots do. Glad you are explicit about that.
thanks Man
Excellent reasoning on target dimensions, as well as the thought that went into the logistics side of things.
Your target frame or chain ever catch a round and topple or fall?
Mark, “
Sam, can you pop down to the frame and re-hang the target? I’ve got to look after the kit here…..”
Sam, “ You shot it, so do it yourself”
Rarely but yes, we have videos that show, and no team work is team work, Cheers Man
I compete at the 1,000 metre range and am always amazed at your long distance shooting. I would feel the 24 inch square target really brings the realism to the accuracy of the shooting. I would say the wind is more of the trying factor of its inconsistency. Thank you for your information.
Thanks Man, Cheers
The challenge is getting there and doing it well. It is personal and in your case a team effort that gives the satisfaction. Keep up the great work and we appreciate being able to share in that.
Thanks David, Cheers
Thanks Mark. Cheers from Wisconsin. 😊
Cheers Bob
Appreciate the explanation Mark. Thankyou.
Cheers Steven. Thank you
And this is why I find what you do more interesting and enjoyable ❤
Thanks John
Great, thanks. Can’t miss with good teamwork.
Thanks Bob
I remember watching your off hand standing position with the 45-70 open sights drilling that 24" target over a 1000 yards away. My dad didn't believe it. I forced him to watch it anyway.
Awesome, Cheers Matt
Good video Mark and makes a lot of sense all the way around
Thanks Richard
Great philosophy.
Cheers
Cool . Thanks for the info.
Cheers
I always love that is your standard target size. Especially at 3000 meters .
Yep. Thanks man. Cheers
Enjoy the appreciation you have for your little spotter, she’s obviously a good one.
I will say making the target bigger could always be the excuse;
24x24 is really just your speed limit (stopping point) and it has to be set somewhere.
Thanks for all the information you both put out.
Cheers
Well stated and classy as usual.
Thanks John. Cheers
All sounds logical to me, take care and stay safe cheers Yogi 🤙✌️
Cheers Yogi, thanks man
600X600mm AR500 will be a mission to carry for sure! 🙂 Range setup can take some time. I shoot in a similar manner to you. Farmers' field out to 2km but I have to setup everything and tidy up again after. Enjoy!
As said, same for us, Cheers
I used to program lasers (and the 60 foot plasma and torch table) and my guess was going to be that a 24" square fits nicely in a grid on an 48x120 inch sheet. Sheet metal comes in various sizes of course, but that was a fairly normal size. We did do a lot of 60x120 as well. The big table did a lot of 96 x 240 and longer, but that was mostly heavy plate. 3/8 inch and thicker.
Thanks Man
"nothing gets bigger if it's further away"...😁
Yep, Cheers
I love the channel first and foremost. Im retired Army Infantryman and one of my hobbies Ive picked up is long-range shooting. Unfortunately I don't have an area to go pass 1000 yards. I shoot at a AR500 steel silhouette that 12x18 inches. I shoot for tight groups also. We had a saying in the Army, Aim small, miss small 😅😅😅
Awesome, Thanks Man, Cheers
Makes sense to me.
Thanks Man
I have no idea why or when I decided to use moa diameter size targets but we generally shoot to 600 max yards although there’s targets to 1000 for giggles/grins. There’s five of us that do this and mostly to the 500 yard target or less. None of us have any custom quality rifles. After market triggers and some very nice scopes of various brands. Our main goal is to be able to take out coyotes beyond normal yardages. lol, I even made a 3/8” plate coyote metal cutout shape for a 500 yard shot. There’s a couple of us that reload but mostly Hornady ammo. Lots of times we will bet a pot of a dollar or two per round per shot. Makes a fella pay attention to his shooting lol. I did put a 20” barrel on one of my ar15’s and it’s a total tack driver. Gotta love this stuff 👍👍
Awesome, Cheers Tim
Byron Ferguson (exhibition bow shooter) once said something that caught my ear. No matter the size of the target, you're always shooting at the center.
I'm just glad y'all use inches. 😂 Cheers. From Tennessee.
Thanks Josh, Cheers
Love the team work. I live in NSW and have been starting to shoot long range out to 1km on a farm and having trouble finding a good rear rest thats steady if you could help Mark. Thanks.
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@markandsamafterwork cheers mate.
You have to take care of the people who allow you to shoot or hunt on their property. Always leave it better than it was before you arrived. Always good to see one of your video's. Will be in Austria this September for a wedding and small vacation. Hope to get to see alot of your wonderful country and try some of the local food and adult beverages. Cheers from America.
Awesome, FYI Australia is a long way from Austria, make sure you book the right ticket, lol, cheers
@markandsamafterwork not sure why it put Austria up lol. Guess I should have taken the time to proof read. In any case will be Sydney Australia and sure it will be a great time.
Did he say my little spotter❤❤
Yep, Cheers
Totally understand the rationale behind not actually hitting the target. However, there's a certain visceral response (reflex) when you hear that clanging sound. At least that's my reaction when viewing the videos.
Thanks Terry
I've got to be honest with you I've been using 24x24 targets for years now and had no idea why I just did it because that's what you guys use ha ha
Lol. Good choise. Cheers Joe
I figured it was you could easily get 6 targets out of a standard size sheet of steel. Plus easy handling.
Lol, Cheers Pete
Because it's easier to hit than a 10x10 😅 jk love the Channel great shooting
Lol, Cheers Brian
日本の私の生活では全く接点の無い貴方のビデオに興味を惹かれるのは何故だろうと思って居りました。
🤔おそらく、誰かと競争して勝つのでは無くて……
自分自身と戦い続けた結果、普通の人の数段上の世界で異次元を見せてくれる姿に驚嘆したり共感しているのかな?と思いました。
🤔技術的や周囲環境は理解出来ませんが……
🤗2人で仲良く💕人間の限界を探る姿に賛辞を贈ります👏👏
from🇯🇵japan
Thank you Kajiya, glad you like, Cheers
Have you ever hit your target camera in your ELR shoots?
Have we ever hit a camera ruclips.net/video/Gy1Koj2bOAQ/видео.html
Will you attempt to repair the targets if rounds go through? I’ve seen some of the bigger rifles do that on the channel occasionally.
Sometimes, but normally just replace, Cheers
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Thanks Kyron
24”x24”. Because anyone can hit a ten foot x ten foot target 🎯 . LoL 👍
Lol. Cheers
Haha I have a 4'x8' 1/2" AR500 target on the farm we use to shoot all the time. Nothing like missing small targets all day wasting rounds.
So started putting the large plate behind the smaller targets so atleast its easy to see a miss.
If your always hitting the target in the first few rounds then what becomes the challenge?
True, Cheers Tyler
Now, I haven't watched but 15 seconds of the video. My initial thought on the target size is X by X inches target at a specific distance equals equals whatever at 100 yards, or the like. I'm going to laugh, if the real reason is something like, "it's the largest target we can carry or haul in our car." 😃
Lol, yep, Cheers Matt
Do you and Sam set up your targets and don’t video?
Sometimes
To me a near miss is nearly as exciting as a hit.
Agreed, cheers Bill
I thought it was because you can cut 8 targets out of a 2400x1200x3mm [ 4'x8' ] sheet of plate without any left over
Lol, Cheers Jim
Didn't you make a video about this many years ago?
Yep, just a refresher for those who have not seen. Cheers
I am both amused and somewhat disappointed in people who engage in the long-range small arms artillery, except that they shoot at MOA or larger targets and disparage you for posting videos of close misses on much smaller targets.
Lol, thanks Man, Cheers
That’s absolutely true. Aim small miss small. But we all miss every shot. Even if it’s just a .001 of an inch.