Handloading tip and new Spindrift ammo case
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- Опубликовано: 4 июн 2024
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I've often noticed some variation in the force needed to seat bullets when I'm loading ammo, but the penny never dropped that I could segregate the rounds to keep my groups more consistent! Great tip, thanks 👍
Thanks Richard
The way you describe how you sort is exactly what I've done for many years. I will turn some upside down, then label accordingly. But just this past weekend I decided to sort them into different ammo boxes based on how they feel as I seat them. Then create a label with all the data and label those that seated -
"easy/smooth"
"medium resistance"
"stiff"
I've also noticed that the more resistance there is, the base to ogive measurement is always longer, from 2 to up to 8 thousandths, which makes sense. Instead of adjusting the die and making them all the same, I just include that data also and test them as they are -
Easy/smooth - B/O = 2.750 (as an example)
Medium - B/O = 2.770
Stiff - B/O = 2.800
and so on. It's actually been consistent for me give or take 0.001
That ammo box is nice
If you ever get around to it and the brass is available, I'd be interested in seeing how 308 and 708 Alpha Munitions brass compares to Lapua. I've always thought Lapua was best until recently when some really good shooters who have youtube channels are saying Alpha Munitions is in first place, then Lapua.
Thanks Derek
Hi Mark, shooters are learning all the time. Keep up the great work mate have a great day.
Thanks Wayne
A sharpie to mark the odd rounds works well too. Use them as fowlers.
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Well said Mark, and another great tip for all
I have been doing the same for many years, especially with seating depth (which I can change on the run) and seating pressure variations as I am reloading. I have found that at the end of my reloading session that I might have a few rounds where the seating pressure is tight, then I can pull the projectile, tip out the powder and expand the neck out another 001" and then re-do that bullet to my chosen seating pressure.
Hope I have explaines it correctly
Thanks Bryan
It all comes down to a level of detail or how much of a perfectionist one is. I’m sure Some people look at this procedure as a means to an end and just do what needs to be done.
Agreed, thanks John, Cheers
Dry lube and mandrel sizing -.002 made my tensions much better/consistant. And always anneal before.
Yes, all things we do when needed and yes can help, but of course video is not the solution, just a help on the way, Cheers
Exactly what I do. This really helps make bullet seating pressure more consistent. I used to wet tumble and my pressure needed to seat a bullet was all over the place. I have better luck now not cleaning the case at all and just seating a bullet with the soot from firing.
Thank you, Mark.
Cheers Richard
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Thanks Garry, Cheers
Good morning from Alabama! 🇺🇸
Thanks Paul
Great content thanks for sharing
Thanks John, Cheers man
Good video Mark. Looks like a nifty little case. I’m not an ELR shooter, just a mid to long range hunter and have found your reloading tips invaluable. Its all gotta be right when making an ethical kill on animal. Appreciate the content. Hot barrels from NZ!
Thanks Josh, cheers
Good info as always. Thank you.
Thanks Jeff
I built myself a force-feedback press that measures the seating force using a dial gauge, and a die to go with it. I was surprised how much the force actually changes even when they felt consistent on a normal press. I have shot a few groups that were all very nearly the same and some that had the best and worst in one group and so far I'm not seeing a difference on target. But I have to point out that I am jamming my bullets into the lands a fair amount, which might make the actual seating force less relevant. Test will continue.
All sorts of details to go through there Pete, have fun, Cheers
Good piece of advice thank you
Thanks Richard
Great video as always
Thanks Man
Good morning from Wantagh, NY, USA. Love your channel
Thanks Man
Hey Mark I believe you answered the question of how you occasionally get a flyer when shooting factory ammo.
If you think about it insertion force can have an impact on your accuracy. Nice case by the way I'll definitely be checking it out. Have a great day Sir...
"Flyer" lots of excuses for those, lol, Cheers
Once again, thanks for the great content Mark and Sam!
Thanks Howard
Hi Mark, Thank you for charing.... AMP PRESS... costy, but that it's all about that... neck tension consistency... considering your performance you absolutly proved that is possible to live without it to do what you do!!!! Thank you.
Thanks Man' Cheers
I love the design and features of this ammo box, as well as that orange color as it's my Multiple Sclerosis support color. I will be getting a couple of these. Thanks for another delightful video 😊
Cheers Will, thanks man
Great tip, thanks Mark!
Thanks Greg
Excellent info.
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I found the lee collet neck dye and the redding body only die gives me a nice consistent neck tension and great concentricity also I have the same box that you featured and noticed you did not mention the equalisation value for air travel that is built in to the box
Thanks Joe
Do you anneal? AMP is supposed to help with neck tension consistency.
Yes, sometimes.
Two boxes order. Express posted, Need them yesterday.
Lol, Awesome, Cheers
I think the top foam is understated, could cause significant variations without it, and you'll never know why.
🇦🇺😎👍Nice case….. Mark I’ve sometimes experience challenges like that and it does frustrate me when reloading centre fire rifle. For me I have a much better time reloading straight cases for my 357 mag and my 38 special…30/30s ok as well… Great video , interesting insight 🏁
Thanks Trev, Cheers
Top info,you get back what you put in, a guy at my range wins most monthly comps,puts lot's of effort into it,he's a mechanical engineer like yourself, i heard a couple of guys moaning that he cheats,when I asked them to explain it became obvious that they used factory ammo and couldn't be bothered to handload....so in their minds he was cheating by putting in the effort that they didn't want to do 😏 gotta wonder.
Lol, Cheers Dave
Super.
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A lot of companies are trying to make money from selling these Chinese plastic cases. You can tell they are all made in the same machine / factory by the moulding form and marks. Come in various colours, Black, yellow, green and orange depending on the intended use / market target. But what is most noticeable is the difference in retail prices between producers. The cheapest are black aimed at the automotive trade. Marine yellow are more expensive and those aimed for shooter are about the most expensive by large orders.
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Mark, does neck tightness have more or less effect on velocity than bullet jump to the lands? I know you said a couple years back you start 40-50 thou off the lands.
No simple answer Duggy, as always all in the details, lol, cheers
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Cheers Kuron
In my humble opinion, the biggest hurdle to performance is doubt.
Doubt your rifle, ammo, ammo components, weather, and the biggest one - am I shit?
The more elements you can scientifically and methodically eliminate, the better.
Cheers