Eps 361: 30-06 Going Obsolete

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024
  • Welcome to the Ron Spomer Outdoors Podcast! Despite a widespread, deep, and fierce fan base, the 30-06 cartridge will go obsolete. And we're going to explain how, on this episode of Ron Spomer Outdoors Podcast.
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    For 44 years I’ve had the good fortune to photograph and write about my passion - the outdoor life. Wild creatures and wild places have always stirred me - from the first flushing pheasant that frightened me out of my socks in grandpa’s cornfield to the last whitetail that dismissed me with a wag of its tail. In my attempts to connect with this natural wonder, to become an integral part of our ecosystem and capture a bit of its mystery, I’ve photographed, hiked, hunted, birded, and fished across much of this planet. I've seen the beauty that everyone should see, survived adventures that everyone should experience. I may not have climbed the highest mountains, canoed the wildest rivers, caught the largest fish or shot the biggest bucks, but I’ve tried. Perhaps you have, too. And that’s the essential thing. Being out there, an active participant in our outdoor world.
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  • @davidreed6779
    @davidreed6779 3 месяца назад +125

    30:06 Probably the best all around rifle caliber ever made

    • @gregewing3916
      @gregewing3916 2 месяца назад +2

      My dad might have argued that the 7 miauser gave it a run for its money

  • @kweeks10045
    @kweeks10045 5 месяцев назад +356

    It will never be obsolete as long as long guns exist. The oxford dictionary defines obsolete as no longer being produced or used. In 2023 it ranked #9 among the most sold caliber rifles in the US. It was ahead of the 300 Win Mag, 7-08, 243, and several other well known cartridges. It's not going anywhere for a long, long time.

    • @DiabloOutdoors
      @DiabloOutdoors 5 месяцев назад +12

      I agree. This guy is a clown and not the first time he speaks fallacies and obviously doesn't know much about hunting and the outdoors. He's a clownesque RUclipsr

    • @TheCodyO
      @TheCodyO 5 месяцев назад +38

      @@DiabloOutdoorspretty rude talking about a guys has had as many experience’s as Ron. Hunting and outdoor writing has been his life for around 50 years or so.. he had hunted more game then most of us ever will. I like the 30-06 and he is talking it up here.. it is a great cartridge. And if you watched the video you would realize that in the end he says he was teasing and that every cartridge eventually becomes extinct. It got people click on the video.

    • @WanderingBobAK
      @WanderingBobAK 5 месяцев назад +13

      @@DiabloOutdoors I hope you to as good as you one day, but I will never be as rude. Jerk.

    • @MrCobb-rq8iv
      @MrCobb-rq8iv 5 месяцев назад

      @@DiabloOutdoors beginning to agree; A$$clown to the third degree.

    • @loquat44-40
      @loquat44-40 5 месяцев назад +7

      There was absolutely no point to a 30 minute video on such a topic and I quit watching once I saw the length of the video.

  • @tripplebeards3427
    @tripplebeards3427 5 месяцев назад +305

    There are more 30-06/chambered rifles and owners in my state than mosquitoes. It’ll still be here long after you and I are both long gone.

    • @gunman-6646
      @gunman-6646 5 месяцев назад +6

      I'm with you on that.

    • @rocksandoil2241
      @rocksandoil2241 5 месяцев назад +4

      Ditto the .303 in Canada. Too many old military rifles were made, and people liked it...and should.

    • @bubbajones5905
      @bubbajones5905 5 месяцев назад +2

      this video was just click bait.

    • @lewjones7272
      @lewjones7272 5 месяцев назад

      The 30-06 will probably go out like the 45-70

    • @tripplebeards3427
      @tripplebeards3427 5 месяцев назад

      @@lewjones7272 😂 😆 😆

  • @8MM.PRC.HUNTER
    @8MM.PRC.HUNTER 5 месяцев назад +107

    To say the 30-06 has a fierce fan base is putting it mildly. I don't think I'll ever see the 30-06 go obsolete in my lifetime, but even if it does I can handload for it until my days on this earth are over.

    • @leifnilsen6107
      @leifnilsen6107 5 месяцев назад +8

      Exactly

    • @johnwallace7694
      @johnwallace7694 3 месяца назад +1

      @@8MM.PRC.HUNTER literally

    • @megastebob
      @megastebob 3 месяца назад

      Fierce is I guess one way to put these outraged fudds.

  • @lugerstonecock
    @lugerstonecock 5 месяцев назад +713

    Oh Please Ron STOP with the click bait title! The 30-06 will easily make it another century. There are just too many out there being used.

    • @tripplebeards3427
      @tripplebeards3427 5 месяцев назад +48

      Yep. More 30-06 rifles in my state than mosquitoes. Massive Clickbait Ron got me…again

    • @jamesclark4
      @jamesclark4 5 месяцев назад +45

      First rifle is a 30-06 ill never sell it

    • @nailbenderMatt
      @nailbenderMatt 5 месяцев назад +24

      Hahaha. Ron, Lugerstonecock took the words out of my mouth. Silly boy, Ron Long live the King - Long live the 30-06.

    • @RonSpomerOutdoors
      @RonSpomerOutdoors 5 месяцев назад +96

      Aww, come on guys. Have I ever put up a video with no or weak information? Fluff and stuff? I might tease you with titles, but I do work to provide useful information. Am I failing you that badly? Besides, if the anti-gunners win the day, the 30-06 will be obsolete -- along with every other cartridge. Let's stick together and fight for out rights.

    • @jamesclark4
      @jamesclark4 5 месяцев назад +18

      @RonSpomerOutdoors i know you do your best but to say the most popular freedom seed will be obsolete is click bait

  • @a1aprospects470
    @a1aprospects470 5 месяцев назад +417

    Whenever a guy starts telling me about how I should switch from 30-06, it's usually the kind of guy who puts an orange slice in his beer and insists I should try it too.

    • @DiabloOutdoors
      @DiabloOutdoors 5 месяцев назад +8

      LOL This Ron is a clown. This is not the first time he's misleading people and speaking fallacies. Like his video about bears "I think", "Maybe", etc... *He PRETENDS to know, but the truth is that he does NOT.* Thumbs down for this guy for as long as he'll post on RUclips.

    • @jaydunbar7538
      @jaydunbar7538 5 месяцев назад +20

      @@DiabloOutdoors engagement is always good for the channel so if your trying to hurt him in some way your failing hard.

    • @a1aprospects470
      @a1aprospects470 5 месяцев назад +7

      @@DiabloOutdoors Yes, I've found that successful youtube/tiktok channels depend more on the person's voice, looks, or controversy rather than the quality of content. There's a very popular history channel where most of their videos are factually wrong.

    • @rydersmith2067
      @rydersmith2067 5 месяцев назад +11

      Hey 30/06 is great and so is a orange slice beer every now and then lol

    • @a1aprospects470
      @a1aprospects470 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@rydersmith2067 My wife and her girlfriends love beer with fruit.

  • @georgemcarthur488
    @georgemcarthur488 5 месяцев назад +102

    I was upset for a minute. Old Ron was looking to spark a fire and he did. 30-06 seems to bring us all together 🤘

  • @birddog7492
    @birddog7492 5 месяцев назад +22

    Like so many others I do love the 30-06 the 270 and the 308. The competition between them has been on the same footing as the Ford and the Chevy. Enjoy which ever one you have. They are all great.

  • @BCvictoria
    @BCvictoria 5 месяцев назад +27

    My buddy is just getting into hunting. He wanted to buy his first rifle that could take anything from coyote to Moose, pretty much the spread of any big game in our area (Southern BC). I told him 30-06, and that's what he got! 😁

  • @johnnyv.223
    @johnnyv.223 5 месяцев назад +41

    The truly good, multi-use calibers(like the.30-'06), endure because they are so versatile and effective.

  • @curly__3
    @curly__3 5 месяцев назад +153

    I could write a book on why the 30-06 is superior to all these new gimmick cartridges. I probably should. It is still superior for most big game save the largest african game, and won't be seriously challenged anytime soon. It has the perfect recipe of caliber, bullet weight and momentum, good bc's, easy to shoot moderate recoil, reasonably flat trajectory out to 500 yards, and can be loaded well with tons of different powders as well as being a great host for bp and cast lead because of the larger case capacity and ability shoot 220 grain lead RN bullets well. The case life for reloading is 2-3x as good as any of the newer cartridges out there, i'm on 27 reloads (yes.. 27) for some nosler brass, finger annealing every 4th round or so and expect ≈15 more loads from that batch of brass. The barrel life is extremely high because it is generally loaded to reletively lower pressures. The moderate velocities match up to perfect on-game bullet performance for most types and brands of bullets. The noise level from a 22'' barrel is moderate compared to magnums. It is still the number one recommended cartridge by the Alaskan dept of fish and game for hunting everything in alsaka... And is generally the number one recomended cartridge by outfitters for everything from mule deer to moose across the west, new england and Alaska... Yada, yada... 30-06 is going no where... The gun and ammo companies want it to go away, they would love to force you into some new rifles, new ammo and new reloading equipment by making the ammo expensive or scarce etc... but it will just make the ammo and gun companies obsolete. Even Bear Creek Arsenal just came out with a new AR platform rifle in 30-06 and 270 win. They can see the writing on the wall... Remington, winchester, vista outdoors, etc better think twice about trying to pressure hunters away from the 308, 270, and 30-06... They are not even close to the only game in town anymore...

    • @gusloader123
      @gusloader123 5 месяцев назад +13

      @curly_3 ---> Bingo! Excellent points. The book titled: "One Man, One Rifle, One Land" by J.Y. Jones is about him taking every game animal from Mexico to Canada with a .30-06 Springfield cartridge / rifle.

    • @roddecker1900
      @roddecker1900 5 месяцев назад +5

      Your voice of xperience_ / loaded with political wizdom ❤

    • @steveelder5306
      @steveelder5306 5 месяцев назад +3

      Ron needed to get some views. holy hell the Aught six is immortal.

    • @georgemcarthur488
      @georgemcarthur488 5 месяцев назад +3

      I'll help you write the book.

    • @jakewayrewa5201
      @jakewayrewa5201 5 месяцев назад +3

      Write the book; I won’t read it. 30-06 can be used for a lot of purposes, but other cartridges can do a better job in individual cases.

  • @tman8939
    @tman8939 5 месяцев назад +19

    I guess I need to go buy an -06 to help keep it a good selling caliber. Thanks Ron for the encouragement...

  • @jerryshowens3049
    @jerryshowens3049 5 месяцев назад +5

    I'm 63 and I love the old 30-06. I remember when I was very young my Dad got his Remington Pump Action in the late 60's or early 70's. I got it after he passed. I remember him using the old Remington 55 gr Accelerator round on Coyotes. I wish they still made that round.

  • @anthonybacon7073
    @anthonybacon7073 3 месяца назад +5

    3-06 is without a doubt a very veritable and popular round. In my opinion the .22 and the 30-06 will never go away.

  • @Steve-vx2xp
    @Steve-vx2xp 5 месяцев назад +128

    To be honest is it gunsmith an avid hunter I live in Alaska if I would push to have one cartridge it would be a 30-06

    • @michaelcervantez3570
      @michaelcervantez3570 5 месяцев назад +3

      Well you're obviously not an English teacher 😂

    • @Steve-vx2xp
      @Steve-vx2xp 5 месяцев назад

      @@michaelcervantez3570 voice text Douche bag

    • @georgemcarthur488
      @georgemcarthur488 5 месяцев назад +17

      ​@@michaelcervantez3570 That was a garbage reply to a mans comment. Tells me enough about you.

    • @markwalker4485
      @markwalker4485 5 месяцев назад

      I would pick a .416 Rigby but I do not make videos

    • @Steve-vx2xp
      @Steve-vx2xp 3 месяца назад

      @@michaelcervantez3570 Yeah that was a voice text smart ass

  • @LuminaryCursorem
    @LuminaryCursorem 5 месяцев назад +3

    I absolutely love my '03 Springfield. Always wanted one since I was a kid be cause my uncle would take one hunting with us ever time we went. His was sporterized, but it is every bit as accurate as people say they are.
    Truly a riflemans rifle.

  • @williamgaines9784
    @williamgaines9784 5 месяцев назад +70

    I think I will open a "retirement home" for all the old 30-06 rifles and ammo. They will all be kept clean and get "exercised" enough to keep them limber.They will also get taken on frequent nature walks. 😉

    • @TrapperScottyAlaskan
      @TrapperScottyAlaskan 5 месяцев назад +8

      The weapon of the modern Amercan Patriot

    • @georgesakellaropoulos8162
      @georgesakellaropoulos8162 5 месяцев назад +4

      I like your style.

    • @jgrenwod
      @jgrenwod 5 месяцев назад

      I already have.

    • @williamgaines9784
      @williamgaines9784 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@jgrenwod Can I come by and take a few out for a nature walk? I am sure there are some old 742s and 760s that need to stretch their legs and work a few kinks out.😖

    • @jgrenwod
      @jgrenwod 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@williamgaines9784
      Our rest home caters to the elderly. Early 20th century 03s and a couple of mid century garlands. Although in excellent health they are more comfortable at the range these days. Their diets (and my pocket book) require they be fed with home made recipes.

  • @dnt1760
    @dnt1760 5 месяцев назад +24

    I am 60. Have been a user in fan of the 36 for 30 years. The advances in bullet design and technology have greatly benefited this old cartridge. Other cartridges may be better at individual tasks, but nothing can match the old war-horse’s versatility.

  • @mikederiggi2523
    @mikederiggi2523 5 месяцев назад +49

    The 06 will be a viable and extremely useful and effective cartridge until we stop shooting projectile type ammunition. My opinion and I’m sticking to it

  • @texashunter664
    @texashunter664 5 месяцев назад +5

    I re fell in love with my 30-06 last summer in South Africa, where it harvested Zebra, Nyala, Kudu, Gemsbuck, Sable, Wildebeest with 180gn Nozler Partitions. Man what a killing machine it was.

  • @joncooke9515
    @joncooke9515 5 месяцев назад +57

    Click bait. My favorite cartridge ever.

  • @davidward6366
    @davidward6366 5 месяцев назад +16

    I think you said a mouth full when you said NOT IN OUR LIFETIME, Great show 😊

  • @smokin70chevelle
    @smokin70chevelle 5 месяцев назад +16

    33 year old here, my x-bolt in 30-06 with sig elite hunter factory ammo uses a 165gr. Sierra TGK bullet, with a claimed B.C. of .531 and a chronographed velocity of 2975 out of my rifle, I can repeatedly smack the 10" plate at a true 1000 yards at my local range. I was never a 30-06 fan until I owned one.

  • @Buddha-of8fk
    @Buddha-of8fk 12 часов назад

    The 30/06 will never go away in PA. I have my Grandpa's Springfield and take it out at least once a year and it still works great. Brings back memories hunting with a truly great man.

  • @carycary5824
    @carycary5824 5 месяцев назад +16

    Ron has forgot more about ammo and rifles than most of the people on this video. As far as the title goes, it’s called sarcasm. Younger folks don’t understand this. I will continue to watch and appreciate every video Ron puts up!! Cheers Ron!!! Thanks brother!!!!!

    • @georgemcarthur488
      @georgemcarthur488 5 месяцев назад +3

      Right! He almost had me disturbed for a second 😆

  • @RickHorejsi
    @RickHorejsi 5 месяцев назад +67

    30.06 best round ever made

    • @kamata93
      @kamata93 5 месяцев назад

      7mm Mauser and 6.5 Grendel entered the chat

    • @Colt-tf6xf
      @Colt-tf6xf 5 месяцев назад +3

      But who won ww2?​@@kamata93

    • @fluggerisaffle973
      @fluggerisaffle973 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@Colt-tf6xf logistics

    • @deadcell8081
      @deadcell8081 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@Colt-tf6xfFat Man and Little Boy

    • @sgtslippyfist6345
      @sgtslippyfist6345 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@kamata93 6.5 grundle doesn't hold a candle to the 06. Now if you would have said 280 ackley, then you would be correct

  • @Accuracy1st
    @Accuracy1st 5 месяцев назад +36

    Ha ha, love the title. Just bought my 5th Tikka T3x 30-06 3 hours ago. Shipping tomorrow. They have joined my recently built Rem700 with a Brux barrel in 30-06. But honestly, the plan is to take every Tikka to the range with a plethora of factory ammo and a few of my handloads. I'll keep 2-3 in factory configuration depending on how they shoot and compare to each other. The rest will all be rebarreled to 280AI

    • @ronlowney4700
      @ronlowney4700 5 месяцев назад

      Derek *Typo! 😳

    • @Accuracy1st
      @Accuracy1st 5 месяцев назад

      @@ronlowney4700 uh oh. What did I do?

    • @ronlowney4700
      @ronlowney4700 5 месяцев назад +1

      🤷‍♂️ My First Post Was Mysteriously Deleted! But, What You Didn't Do is Buy a 270 Winchester! 😂

    • @Accuracy1st
      @Accuracy1st 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@ronlowney4700 Oh man, you don't know me. I just picked up my THIRD left hand Stainless Tikka T3x Lite 270 last Friday. It now sits beside the other 2 AND my left hand Tikka 270 Hunter T3x AND 2 right handed ones black and blued AND 1 right hand Hunter and my one custom I have left - all in 270 Win. I have another LH stainless T3x 270 on my watch list on an auction site and plan to buy it Thursday.

    • @ronlowney4700
      @ronlowney4700 5 месяцев назад +1

      🤯 WOW! 👍

  • @rwLincoln
    @rwLincoln 5 месяцев назад +20

    .30-06 proved itself by me in Africa
    ---buffalo, hippo, waterbuck, cob, and warthog
    ---we loved that 220 grain Silver Tip bullet for the bigger game

    • @grantnunmaker9341
      @grantnunmaker9341 5 месяцев назад +1

      I concur absolutely

    • @rez4958
      @rez4958 4 месяца назад +1

      How do you think that 220 grain Silver Tip would deal with heavy brown bear or Grizzly? I know this subject is probably beat to death but I just want a big game hunters opinion. I mean a charging bear by the way.

    • @BaconSlayer69
      @BaconSlayer69 3 месяца назад +1

      @@rez4958stupid question look at the other animals he mentioned they’re bigger then ur bears in America

    • @AlanThomas-hp3fn
      @AlanThomas-hp3fn 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@BaconSlayer69not really the grizzly is an amazingly toufgh killing machine. It's strength pound for pound is seven × human.

    • @BaconSlayer69
      @BaconSlayer69 2 месяца назад +1

      @@AlanThomas-hp3fn animals in Africa are 20x bigger

  • @jfess1911
    @jfess1911 5 месяцев назад +23

    The 30-06 was originally a US Military cartridge, so its max pressure was set to be conservative, even in 1906. It was expected to be used in harsh conditions and well-used weapons with somewhat inconsistent ammo. They built in a significant safety margin. Even almost half a century later, the military-based 308 set only a couple thousand psi higher for the same reasons. The 270 was designed well after the 30-06 and was a hunting cartridge, so pressures were pushed a bit.
    It tuned out the 270's chamber pressure was pushed up more than realized. There is also a strange artifact of the "copper crusher" pressure testing method used at the time that under-reports pressures in some instances. When it was developed, the 270 registered only 4% higher pressure than the 30-06 using the old method (52,000 cup vs 50,000 cup). When the more accurate piezoelectric pressure transducers were used, the actual increase turned out to be over 8% (65,000 psi vs 60,000 psi).

    • @jfess1911
      @jfess1911 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@jerrykemphfer9436 The 270 has more pressure. It turns out that the increase over the 30-06 is more than its creators realized. This is because of a glitch in the old test method.

    • @steveross3959
      @steveross3959 4 месяца назад

      ​@@jfess1911m

  • @geoffkeahey2651
    @geoffkeahey2651 5 месяцев назад +13

    Got an 06 for my fifteenth Christmas. Still have it. And two more. Fifty years later, it is the caliber I grab for big game. Obsolete? Not as long as I have dies.

  • @k5mudder
    @k5mudder 2 месяца назад +4

    I’m 30 years old and I love your videos!

  • @GeorgeSemel
    @GeorgeSemel 5 месяцев назад +10

    Back in the 1990's, I had a Winchester M-70 30-06. I zeroed it in with 165 gr Trophy Bonded Bullets that Federal loaded then. I then went out to 200 yards and shot a group. I hit all my bullets about 1.5 inches above the point of aim, and the group size for all five shots came out to 1.35 inches. Not bad at all. Since I was moving to Alaska for work, I wanted a 06. I shot several caribou Black Tail Deer and a couple of moose with it, but I also had other rifles. No matter where in the state I went, every store I went to would have some ammo, and 30-06 was always on the shelf in some form. Usually 165 or 180 loads. These days, I shoot a 7mm RM, which is nothing more than a flatter shooting 30-06. My only regret was not having Mel Forbes make a Model 24 in 30-06 for me. He passed on a few days ago. Wilson Combat bought NULA, and well, let's just say I am not a fan of the "improvements". As for guns and shooting in general on the political front we are doing pretty good with the beat back. I am betting that GCA-68 is going to get overturned and the NFA is going to get scaled back. Time will tell.

  • @tehunter6569
    @tehunter6569 Месяц назад +3

    The quintessential American cartridge. The .30-06 will never die.

  • @rbrock00
    @rbrock00 2 месяца назад +8

    I never thought I'd see the day when the 30-06 would go extinct. It's the cartridge that fought (and won) three wars. Letting it go extinct is woke. Need I sat more?

  • @lugerstonecock
    @lugerstonecock 5 месяцев назад +61

    The 3006 will go obsolete when we start using lazers or when projectile weapons are relplaced with whatever technology is going to replace them.

    • @sinisterthoughts2896
      @sinisterthoughts2896 5 месяцев назад +4

      That's what Ron said.

    • @Oneofthetwelve
      @Oneofthetwelve 5 месяцев назад +1

      Hahah yeah but I’ll keep mine 🤣

    • @ricktaylor3748
      @ricktaylor3748 5 месяцев назад +1

      We're already using lasers, and ultrasound weapons.

    • @Hutzjohn
      @Hutzjohn 5 месяцев назад +2

      MAYBE ----- remember WW IV will be fought with sticks and stones

    • @lizzardwizard2000
      @lizzardwizard2000 4 месяца назад

      Phase plasma rifle in the 40 watt range according to Arnold.

  • @jaredmartin3945
    @jaredmartin3945 5 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you Ron, for all of your efforts with all of these caliber reviews.

  • @qwman68
    @qwman68 5 месяцев назад +10

    The 30-06 is a badass cartridge. Especially if you reload. Ackley Improved puts in almost in 300 wi mag territory

  • @MitchellNorman-qh5ri
    @MitchellNorman-qh5ri 18 дней назад +1

    Just loaded up some hornady 212 grain eldx with superformance powder. 3 bullets touching at 100 yards and will ring 12” steel at 650 yards consistently. Huge improvement over the factory 150 grain bullets. 1953 Winchester 70 with vortex 6-18x44

  • @bJH3105
    @bJH3105 5 месяцев назад +16

    I'm 38 30-06 been my hunting rifle for 10 plus years.

  • @mikemclendon4962
    @mikemclendon4962 4 месяца назад +2

    Mine is 50 yr. old and was my grandfather's. I will give it to my grandson soon. Great for swamp and sand hills in Florida .Most own a 30.06 and a toy .

  • @duck-n-cover477
    @duck-n-cover477 5 месяцев назад +14

    Singing a little Toby Keith, "I ain't as good as I once was, but I'm good once as I ever was."

  • @timothystallings7191
    @timothystallings7191 5 месяцев назад +1

    Always have and will always love my 30-06 !!! It has always done the job I needed it to do.

  • @dada_man
    @dada_man 5 месяцев назад +6

    The idea that "every cartridge goes obsolete eventually" flies in the face of the 45-70 he mentioned at the beginning. We still have plenty of cartridges with us that began with the inception of the metal cartridge. I tend to agree with Mr Spomer in theory, but we haven't seen that play out yet in reality.

  • @jamescook7051
    @jamescook7051 5 месяцев назад +1

    I’m 36 and have a 1903 Mark 1 and a Winchester Model 70 both 30-06. I love the cartridge and these older rifles vs the new stuff.

  • @gregorysloat4258
    @gregorysloat4258 3 месяца назад +7

    OK, I’ve run into SEVERAL RUclips videos now, trying to encourage me to abandon the .30-06. No! Sorry (not sorry), but it looks like there’s a media agenda against the .30-06, for some reason. Not going to happen! The .30-06 will be around long after we are all gone.

  • @josephhartman8370
    @josephhartman8370 2 дня назад

    34 year old. Dad handed me a 3006 when i was 13 which was the first rifle i ever shot and ive been using it since. Love them.

  • @robertvasquez240
    @robertvasquez240 5 месяцев назад +3

    Ron, You give some good numbers that actually make a case for the 30-06 Springfield lasting for a long time!

  • @HPM503
    @HPM503 6 дней назад

    35 yrs ago I decided to go with the 30-06 when I bought my first hunting rifle because of how versatile the round is. As stated, a huge range of game and applications for the round. I’ve taken deer and elk with it and every time it put them down virtually in their tracks. No need for a different hunting rifle for me.

  • @ridgerunner3364
    @ridgerunner3364 5 месяцев назад +3

    I love your podcast, but I believe it will be at least another generation before the 30-06 fades away. The 06 will do anything you need it to do. There are millions of 06's in service. Love you show, and your wisdom!!

  • @philipbriney4430
    @philipbriney4430 2 месяца назад +1

    I went the 1903 springfield mine was made in 1930. Best rifle I have ever owned! If I ever get my dream brown bear hunt I will use the old girl for sure!!!

  • @deltaf222
    @deltaf222 4 месяца назад +4

    Ron, we love you, what you represent, your data, your humor and your contribution to the shooting sports world; Fabulous video!!!!

  • @NigelDeForrest-Pearce-cv6ek
    @NigelDeForrest-Pearce-cv6ek 5 месяцев назад +22

    Well Done!!! Ought Six Forever!!!

  • @rrapp8067
    @rrapp8067 2 месяца назад +1

    Got my first .30/06 in a Remington M700 ADL Christmas '67. Reloading and getting consistent 1.25-in groups and less with a Weaver K3 crosshair 'scope at 100-yards sometimes even brought in 0.75-in 3-shot groups with 110-gr Speer spitzer of the late '60s and 56-gr IMR 4350. Loaded many other slugs to good velocity, mostly 165 to 180-gr spitzers, as well as reduced loads with the 110-gr round nose .30 carbine slugs and 20grains of IMR 4227. The .30/06 with a 1-10 rifling twist handled them all. Have another .30/06 as well: H&R Mauser bolt from the early 1980s with its easy loading and sure feeding remains great. It is just a well-balanced cartridge, and very well-proven.

  • @wildweasel8564
    @wildweasel8564 4 месяца назад

    I just inherited my Dad's Remington 700 ADL in 30-06 he bought years ago for an elk hunt. He took a bull elk near Spanish Peaks in Colorado that took a day to butcher and back out to his 4x4. Looking forward to reloading for it and heading to the range!

  • @georgesakellaropoulos8162
    @georgesakellaropoulos8162 5 месяцев назад +10

    As far as the 6.5 Creedmoor is concerned,except for wind drift, which you can compensate for, and drop, which is easier to compensate for, the .30-'06 with heavier bullets can be driven to retain energies of 1500 foot pounds out past 800 yards. The Creedmoor can't touch it.

    • @sinisterthoughts2896
      @sinisterthoughts2896 5 месяцев назад +1

      More is more, after all.

    • @ronaldjohnson1474
      @ronaldjohnson1474 5 месяцев назад +2

      Also, the Creedmore can't do anything the 1894 6.5 Swede isn't capable of doing.

    • @bjohnson1489
      @bjohnson1489 2 месяца назад

      Creedmoor is a man bun cartridge

  • @Arariel3
    @Arariel3 3 месяца назад +1

    Absolutely love the video, especially the conclusion! Had me going!

  • @warrenpolidori5541
    @warrenpolidori5541 5 месяцев назад +3

    Was about to knee jerk and call you out on this topic Ron, but hung in there for the punch line at the end. As always, very well done!

  • @garyawasis-qr5rp
    @garyawasis-qr5rp 2 месяца назад +2

    .3006 will always take care of my big game hunting needs!

  • @nickl6929
    @nickl6929 5 месяцев назад +5

    The 35-45 years of age is also when most of us are handed down dads old rifle these days. Which more often than not is in 30-06...

  • @nathanlambshead4778
    @nathanlambshead4778 5 месяцев назад +1

    You didn't fool me. I KNEW you would not be poo pooing the 30-06. (I was only worried a little lol) My favorite and most accurate rifle I ever owned was a 30-06 in a Browning 1885. I don't hunt open areas much (New Hampshire woods mostly) but I wanted a field/power line rifle for those few times I found myself there in deer season.
    My Falling block Browning would consistently clover leaf 3 shots at 100 yds off the bench, using Factory loads. (Fed Premium 180 grain) which was good enough for this old timer. Of course the 26 inch (or was it 28? Can't remember now) barrel was a plus, along with shorter overall length than bolt action rifles.
    Thanks again for the video. Keep up the great work.

  • @davemurphy3813
    @davemurphy3813 5 месяцев назад +7

    Hey Ron, I’ll help you with some ideas for getting out of the old rut of gunwriters: comparing calibers. It has to be the most mundane and irrelevant topic to obsess over, with people agonizing about minute details that don’t end up mattering in the real world. So instead, how about taking a hint from the shotgun and archery worlds and talk about technique? About gun fit? About things like eye dominance? About gun care and repair? Teach people to be able to do more with what they already have. That doesn’t sell new stuff and unnecessary gear, but it is what people want.
    I’ll send you the bill for these ideas later.

    • @HazardousRob
      @HazardousRob 4 месяца назад

      i dont think he needs your advice chump. he's doing better than you

  • @gingergliderider85
    @gingergliderider85 2 месяца назад +1

    Love my Remington 760 game master 30-06 pump. I got it from my dad.

  • @cornwasher
    @cornwasher 5 месяцев назад +15

    Wrorng, it will never go out of fashion based upon knock down power, shootability, recoil, availability, price, credible history and bullet weight choice.

    • @sinisterthoughts2896
      @sinisterthoughts2896 5 месяцев назад +1

      Did you actually watch the video?

    • @HDSME
      @HDSME 5 месяцев назад

      Anddddddddd!!! 200 million guns chambered fir it don't forget we live in the sabo erra you can't still shoot .22s even out of it

  • @robertallen4490
    @robertallen4490 3 месяца назад +2

    The .30-06 is like the Douglas DC-3 airliner. It’s going to be around long after the cartridges intended to replace it are long forgotten.

  • @thomasdecember3910
    @thomasdecember3910 5 месяцев назад +53

    The 3006 is here for ever all those prc's there not staying .

    • @gunman-6646
      @gunman-6646 5 месяцев назад +7

      I'm with you on that.

    • @ricktaylor3748
      @ricktaylor3748 5 месяцев назад +6

      Absolutely.

    • @jaydunbar7538
      @jaydunbar7538 5 месяцев назад

      Same was said about the 30-06 by people like you, nothing changed there’s always someone saying it. It’s mostly correct as most cartridges introduced do fall to the wayside, but your not omnipotent your just a clown.

    • @ASimao71
      @ASimao71 5 месяцев назад +3

      So true! 👍👍

    • @sinistersilverado965
      @sinistersilverado965 5 месяцев назад +1

      LOL, copium

  • @denisestarr2314
    @denisestarr2314 3 месяца назад

    I'm 60 . I hear people talking all the time about this new round that new round . Great tecnolagy is awsome .
    I've been all over the US .
    I can go anywhere and find 30-06. From small farm towns to tradeing post in Alaska.
    I'll keep my 30-06 . Thank you .

  • @jameswhitaker1324
    @jameswhitaker1324 5 месяцев назад +3

    13:05 you don’t have to imagine, the SAMMI drawings have the rim dimension as .473 -.010. There is not a plus in the tolerance, therefore, the .473 is a do not exceed number. Acceptable dimensions are from .463-.473. So, if I were the tool and die guy, I’d be shooting not for .473, but for .468, probably, not knowing much about the thermal properties of cartridge brass and making dies for drawing brass. Come to think of it, the finished cartridges probably grow in dimensions as the die wears, so maybe start smaller to avoid having to replace dies more often?

  • @danholma4747
    @danholma4747 3 месяца назад +1

    As a 60 year old swede. I would say,the 30 aught six will never be obsolete. It is the allround caliber
    of all allrounders.
    I have used it for all of my hunting life. And as a reloader i found it does everything between squirrel and moose. As a champion. Fantastic całiber.

  • @sinisterthoughts2896
    @sinisterthoughts2896 5 месяцев назад +6

    Man, these comments show just how many people want squeek and squawk without ever watching a video. Dunning-kruger effect in action.

  • @MichaelRandall-f1o
    @MichaelRandall-f1o 17 дней назад +1

    30-06 is the tried and true. Combined with the Barnes TTSX or Nosler Accubond bullets. Can't be beat. It was my first cartridge to reload. 150 grain - and 180 bullets, Work the best. Its a reloaders dream. Long range to 600 yards at Camp Perry with 168 and 175 grain bullets. Don't mess with the tried and true. Its the Riflemans cartridge, More than 3 Wars approved.

  • @evanwindom
    @evanwindom 5 месяцев назад +16

    "So why did I start this by saying it was going obsolete?" I think the term for that is "clickbait".

    • @sinisterthoughts2896
      @sinisterthoughts2896 5 месяцев назад +1

      The tactic has existed long before the internet. It's called a headline.

    • @joelpeterson8424
      @joelpeterson8424 5 месяцев назад

      The title prompted me to watch a very informative program that proved the title wrong...uh.

    • @evanwindom
      @evanwindom 5 месяцев назад

      @@joelpeterson8424 How nice for you.

  • @michaelquillen2679
    @michaelquillen2679 6 дней назад +1

    Not in my lifetime! Started hunting (deer antelope, elk) at age 12 with the .30-06. Still hunting (elk only) at age 69 with the .30-06. The ought-six has done its job well for me over the last 57 years. Got my son hunting with the .30-06 when he was 12. At age 34, he is convinced that it is the cartridge that will do the job for him and is not hyped by the all the new calibers. I doubt it will become "obsolete" in his lifetime as well.

  • @nathan8418
    @nathan8418 5 месяцев назад +7

    Can listen to Ron compare cartridges all day.

  • @youngblood2
    @youngblood2 22 дня назад

    Ron, you have the coolest job in the world!!! Best regards from Stan in Wichita Kansas U.S.A.

  • @jwdundon
    @jwdundon 5 месяцев назад +7

    The 30-06 is the one gun. It's an antique. It's a relic drop a 190 Grand accubond on top of it. Comparing it to any wonder bullet of today and see what happens.

    • @georgesakellaropoulos8162
      @georgesakellaropoulos8162 5 месяцев назад +2

      I get 2750 fps out of it with no signs of exeess pressure. This translates to 1490 foot pounds of energy at 900 yards. Wind drift is not ideal, and the trajectory is beginning to look like a rainbow. If you learn to shoot it, it delivers more than one would expect.

    • @jwdundon
      @jwdundon 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@georgesakellaropoulos8162 I live in the real world out in Oregon. The part of the state I live In, a 200 yard shock is a pretty long shot. I go to Eastern Oregon. It's like the Midwest. You can shoot four or five 600 yd.
      I've lost track of how many four point bucks. I've killed both blacktail and muley and I've killed several elk. The longest shot I've ever shot a buck with was 440 yd. Ironically, I used a 270 WSM. I held 16" over his back, and dropped it into his heart. That's about 30 BIG BUCKS, many Record book bucks. -- I don't see the hype to LONG RANGE SHOOTING. Most bucks I take are under 100 yards. They can't tell the difference in the exit hole. To me a GOOD BONDED BULLET is more important than a long sleek sexy bullet. I don't see the difference in holding 5' over a bucks back or holding 20'. (LONGER MAXIMUM POINT BLANK RANGE). that is real, the rest, not so much.

    • @georgesakellaropoulos8162
      @georgesakellaropoulos8162 5 месяцев назад +1

      @jwdundon I've only done this from a bench. I'm not good enough to shoot game at distances much over 300 yards, maybe under ideal conditions 400, but this bullet expands and holds together in wet paper at 900.

  • @robertwood9984
    @robertwood9984 3 месяца назад +1

    You trickster! Ha! Lol.
    It was good to hear all this. Trusting the ballistics you presented, this was very refreshing for my soul.

  • @hs459
    @hs459 5 месяцев назад +4

    LOVE THE 30-06/END OF STORY

  • @robjohns5569
    @robjohns5569 5 месяцев назад +1

    Because it works ! It has worked on every thing I have aimed it at!

  • @hiromikami
    @hiromikami 5 месяцев назад +3

    I listen to Ron every day no matter the title, and learn.

    • @lyellclare9365
      @lyellclare9365 5 месяцев назад

      Ron is running out of New content and that is why he is doing these silly, pointless pod casts.

  • @leroymorris6036
    @leroymorris6036 3 месяца назад +1

    thanks for fanning the fire Ron!

  • @gregjones2217
    @gregjones2217 5 месяцев назад +19

    Oh, I doubt it

    • @sinisterthoughts2896
      @sinisterthoughts2896 5 месяцев назад

      How about when we use phasers like star trek?

    • @WanderingBobAK
      @WanderingBobAK 5 месяцев назад

      @@sinisterthoughts2896 Haha! That's what popped into my head. Tell me you're not a Boomer. Haha.

  • @akathecanadian
    @akathecanadian 5 дней назад

    I’m 23. My friends I grew up with, we love the 30-06, well. Tyler doesn’t, he likes the 270 but he’s an auto body tech, nuff said but 118 years later. It’s just so perfect and versatile. Cant ever go wrong with an 06

  • @Paul-q3m7k
    @Paul-q3m7k 5 месяцев назад +5

    I highly doubt it . I can see the magnums like the 300 win mag and 7 mag going “ obsolete “ long before the 30-06 .

  • @lewis9888
    @lewis9888 2 месяца назад

    I've been Prepping for decades. I have a Remington model 742 in 3006 with a few original magazines and a few aftermarket plastic and metal 10 round magazines. I also have two 308 semi-auto rifles, one with 20 round magazines and the other with 30 round magazines. And of course I also have Mini-14 rifles, Mini-30 and 556 AR's. I love them all. I have a few pre-ban Mini-30 forty round magazines. Keep Prepping my friends.

  • @ronlowney4700
    @ronlowney4700 5 месяцев назад +7

    🤭 Long Live The 270 Winchester! 😜

    • @fdp9521
      @fdp9521 5 месяцев назад +1

      The 270 is a great cal. It is almost as good as the 30-06. If that makes you angry so be it. Jack O'Connor said so.

    • @ronlowney4700
      @ronlowney4700 5 месяцев назад +1

      😂 I Have Both!

    • @ronlowney4700
      @ronlowney4700 5 месяцев назад

      😂 I Wanted To See How Long It Would Take to "Trigger" 30-06 Fans! 😜

    • @gregorbrohman3388
      @gregorbrohman3388 3 месяца назад

      I have never owned a .30-'06springfield, but chose the .270Winchester.
      I regret ever doing so!
      The '06 is here to stay! IMO

    • @ronlowney4700
      @ronlowney4700 3 месяца назад

      @gregorbrohman3388 You Need To Reload To Get The Most Out Of Your 270 Winchester!

  • @P.J.GABRIEL-dv2bv
    @P.J.GABRIEL-dv2bv 5 месяцев назад +7

    168gr 3006 is medicine for bull elk n moose

  • @thetr00per30
    @thetr00per30 5 месяцев назад

    So long as I am looking down on the grass instead of up the aught 6 is getting used. It may not be the very best at any one particular thing, but it has a load for any job, and I like that

  • @polikalo74
    @polikalo74 5 месяцев назад +4

    Blasphemy! Never...

  • @tracyclaystowell6431
    @tracyclaystowell6431 4 месяца назад

    lots of us old guys own and use them. My son just bought one two. His deer rifle is a .243 I bought him for graduating elementary school. He got invited for a northern Moose hunt and figured his grandpas 303 might not be up to the task, since they were canoe hunting and might have long shots across the bay. Lovely Ruger American II he ended up with. Look, we handloaders have been loading it upwards in pressure for years. Clay

  • @mitchculpepper738
    @mitchculpepper738 4 месяца назад +4

    Ron, I think you bumped your damn head or you’ve been taking Biden lessons! Every hunter I know owns a 30-06 and it’s the most popular big game cartridge ever!

  • @archangel20031
    @archangel20031 5 месяцев назад +2

    30-06 will never go away, it's just to versatile!
    A bunch of cartridges can be made from the 30-06 including 45 Raptor..
    It can do 95% of what the 300 Win-mag can do, the recoil is on the verge of being too much in a heavy loading and can be downloaded easily!

    • @leedoss6905
      @leedoss6905 Месяц назад

      @@archangel20031 Especially in a long 26 inch barrel against a 300 win mag in a short barrel.

  • @larrykenyon2528
    @larrykenyon2528 5 месяцев назад +5

    He is just getting old and needs something to talk about.

  • @leifnilsen6107
    @leifnilsen6107 5 месяцев назад

    Thank you for the history and information. Absolutely well put together.

  • @hiddentruth1982
    @hiddentruth1982 5 месяцев назад +4

    30-06 is one of the best rounds in my opinion. For the kick you get great power. It's a well balanced round. It's more powerful than the .556 and kicks about the same.

    • @440capnhook
      @440capnhook 5 месяцев назад +4

      Wow somehow the 06 defies newtons third law!

    • @sinisterthoughts2896
      @sinisterthoughts2896 5 месяцев назад +4

      I love 30-06, but the recoil is not the same, not even similar. That's basic physics. I Love that caliber, but that statement is straight up incorrect.

  • @dustinpalmer3386
    @dustinpalmer3386 5 месяцев назад +2

    Ron I'm 44 years old I hunt here in louisiana with a remington 760 game master 30-06 it's my favorite rifle I won't change the 06 ain't going nowhere lots of guys agree with me

  • @jasonkilgore1977
    @jasonkilgore1977 3 месяца назад +1

    Another great video. I like how you had fun with the title. Thanks.

  • @thomastoups3451
    @thomastoups3451 4 месяца назад

    I own lots of different rifles (including the 06). The 30-06 is hands down the most versatile, "do everything" rifle cartridge going. I've even sized buckshot for the 06 and used it as a substitute for .22s back when we had the Great .22 Ammo Shortage! Yes, I still had lots of .22 put away, but wanted to test the 06 pipsqueak loads and they worked well. The 30-06 will still be around when our grand kids are old and meet the grave.

  • @cliffjohnson3961
    @cliffjohnson3961 Месяц назад

    Just bought a xbolt in 30-06 for my deer hunting in northern mn and northern wi one is for sure up north 06 ammo is real easy to find which i like alot if i get in a pinch and need ammo the most common ammo i see up north is 30-30 270 308 and 30-06

  • @michaelpeterson2038
    @michaelpeterson2038 5 месяцев назад

    love my 06 been with me since 73, taken everything from Coues to moose. no worries for I know it will still be around after I'm not.

  • @kirkboswell2575
    @kirkboswell2575 5 месяцев назад +2

    One point about the Garand - it was originally going to be a 0.276 and a 10 round clip. McArthur knew war was coming and didn't want a bunch of different calibers in the supply line, so he insisted that the Garand be chambered in 30-06, which reduced the clip capacity to 8. This was done, but the Springfield load (174 grains at 2700 fps) was beating the guns up too fast. There's some controversy about this part, but I learned that the 30-06 was downloaded for the Garand to a 147 grain bullet at 2700 fps. to preserve its useful life.
    The spec difference between 30-03 cases and the 30-06 cases is just one millimeter. The performance difference between the two is quite significant. Also, the reason you never see a 30-03 rifle is because all the rifles already made were recalled and rechambered.
    Also, there's a sabot available to allow the use of 22 caliber bullets.