Josh Pate On College Football Forming "Super League" (Late Kick Cut)

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  • Опубликовано: 5 апр 2024
  • College Football has seen a ton of realignment and legal threats from all directions. On Late Kick Live Ep 499 Josh Pate looked at a report from earlier this week detailing a push to form College Football into a super league. How much traction could an idea like this ever get? Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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  • @LateKickwithJoshPate
    @LateKickwithJoshPate  3 месяца назад

    Keep the show free - SUBSCRIBE to the channel and LIKE the video! - JP

  • @observer466
    @observer466 3 месяца назад +7

    Absolutely correct. The schools with the power have no reason to be interested in this. Note, for example, that the president of Syracuse is a major player in this plan. Of course, his football program has no where to go if the ACC implodes. The best hope for Cuse is a weakened ACC. Or else it is doom. So, he likes the idea of the SEC and B1G sharing the wealth. Why not?

  • @larrycox7169
    @larrycox7169 3 месяца назад +6

    Its just D1 spliting into D1A and D1B. All for money's sake.

    • @davidboniface858
      @davidboniface858 3 месяца назад

      It already did when the FBS and FCS split

  • @mrmonkeysays
    @mrmonkeysays 3 месяца назад +1

    @JoshPate I think you need to update your TV contract graphic to include recent realignment. The Big 12 contract, for example, was $380M for 12 schools. The Big 12 had a pro-rata clause that was triggered with the addition of the 4 corners. That contract is now $505M ($31.6×16). I'm not sure how the Big 10/SEC contracts changed. The ACC contract did not change with the addition of Cal, Stanford, and SMU.

  • @TMAC803210
    @TMAC803210 3 месяца назад +39

    I like this proposed 80 team super league idea a hell of a lot more than the B1G/SEC cartel being the end-all and be-all.

    • @GrouchyKraut
      @GrouchyKraut 3 месяца назад +1

      Well SEC teams are the best. They've literally won 90%+ of last 20 national championships

    • @observer466
      @observer466 3 месяца назад

      Too bad. The SEC and the B1G are in control.

    • @jansonroberts2616
      @jansonroberts2616 3 месяца назад +2

      @@GrouchyKraut True but…..this society has more of a participation trophy philosophy. Everyone deserves the same amount regardless of performance or effort of others. In fact those that work hard, invest more and perform better are the problem. 🤣🤣🤣 SMH.

    • @terencebaca1990
      @terencebaca1990 3 месяца назад

      The B1G & SEC will eventually dissolve when the 8 most valuable CFB bluebloods ditch those conferences for more money in the Super League.

    • @rodharris3606
      @rodharris3606 3 месяца назад

      @@terencebaca1990 How is the SEC or the Big Ten going to make more money in the super league? You are going to divide the money 80 ways sure it will be more money maybe, but still right now the two make money right now,

  • @JJ15702
    @JJ15702 3 месяца назад +3

    I think 80 is too big of a number, 50 is large enough to me and I would not make that membership static, but a system of dropping off and promoting up new teams 2 or 4 every year, like the English Premier League. This would create incentive to the best outsiders to improve and to the lagging insiders to fight their way from the bottom.
    This will also make any program like Miami, of which I am a fan, to wake up and do what is needed to remain competitive instead of living off their past glories for 20 years. Things would be interesting, but remembering the top 25 ranks of every year, I think 80 is too large a number for a superior quality league.

  • @arlinwright1819
    @arlinwright1819 3 месяца назад +2

    This all feels like some shucking and jiving to ultimately end up being the CFL "College Football League".

  • @tonybaggett1984
    @tonybaggett1984 3 месяца назад

    Like Josh said it’s the SEC and BIG 10s world. I just wish they’d hurry up and do whatever they’re going to do. It’ll be some type of pay for play type thing. I just hope that it’s innovative enough to keep all the other sports and a some of the tradition when it’s implemented.

  • @evan1788
    @evan1788 3 месяца назад +1

    All of you saying this and in the same breath say Notre Dame needs to get in line and join a conference 😂

  • @mark8337
    @mark8337 3 месяца назад

    SEC and Big Ten will never give up their conferences to that. As George Bush 1 would say, “Not gonna happen. Not gonna”. It’s DOA. They might continue to expand, almost certainly will, but at most to 24 teams. Even that is a stretch from the money point of view. They probably would agree to a Tier 1 consisting of an expanded Big Ten, SEC, and Big 12, with a 16 team playoff with 4-6 teams from each in it plus a wildcard or two to get to 16. So, you’d have 72 teams with 3 Power Conferences and a 16 team playoff. Perfect. Have a Tier 1 Commissioner and commissioner’s office working with the Power 3 Conferences regards to structure, rules, how players get paid, etc. with the Power 3 input. The other 60 some Div 1 teams can have their own conferences and own playoff as Tier 2 teams. Problems solved. Thank Mark Roger’s over at The Voice of College Football for this proposal.

  • @RedbeardInBluegrass
    @RedbeardInBluegrass 3 месяца назад

    I've tried to look more into it but haven't been able to find much beyond the same couple reddit mentions, so I guess grain of salt and all that. I have no belief that the conferences will go away with at least some consideration to the point that they get some FOIA and maybe other protections by having private schools involved. Of course, since schools like Miami and USC are (i just learned this btw) private, the super league could be eligible for them too without having to make a spot for Vandy or Northwestern, but if there's any questions or concerns about a new entity inheriting the protections they won't want to risk it imo. Could be overthinking it, but I imagine it's been talked about with any of these crazy meetings they have.

  • @emc_squar3479
    @emc_squar3479 3 месяца назад

    The sec doesn't have the most money the Big10 does.

  • @CUSE315SYR
    @CUSE315SYR 3 месяца назад +1

    They want 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰 it gets you players now

  • @michaelwhitfield9922
    @michaelwhitfield9922 2 месяца назад

    Yes a super league big money

  • @bobdaluga418
    @bobdaluga418 3 месяца назад +2

    Is your favorite coach James Franklin going to be top coach?

    • @huntercondra1113
      @huntercondra1113 3 месяца назад

      No but we’re all fans. Is he not allowed to like Iowa state and James Franklin? I see a stupid amount of hate towards his fandom of that team and that coach

    • @LateKickwithJoshPate
      @LateKickwithJoshPate  3 месяца назад

      huh?

  • @Jamessmith-xk3fh
    @Jamessmith-xk3fh 3 месяца назад

    I'm a LSU fan and don't like realignment

  • @user-ib6gj3cp2u
    @user-ib6gj3cp2u 3 месяца назад +2

    Splitting college football into an 80 team super league without relegation seems to be the best case scenario for the sport.

  • @letitroll610
    @letitroll610 3 месяца назад

    Going to be like boxing, they can be the kings of a very small elitist group.

  • @shinyking1325
    @shinyking1325 3 месяца назад +1

    Who is pate to know the truth behind college football doors & super conference changes😂😂😂😂

  • @grampajim1595
    @grampajim1595 3 месяца назад

    Behold the coming Alpha Football League and its divisions:
    --- Lakes Division ---
    Illi
    Ind
    Mryd
    MSt
    Mch
    Rutg
    OhSt
    PnSt
    Purd
    Wisc
    ---- West Division ---
    Cal
    Ariz
    Oreg
    USC
    Colo
    Nebr
    Iowa
    Minn
    Wash
    UCLA
    --- SoEast Division ---
    Flor
    Geor
    Kent
    SoCa
    Clem
    Tenn
    NotrD
    UNC
    FlSt
    Mia
    ----- SoWest Division---
    Houst
    Mizz
    OleM
    Texas
    Oklhm
    TxAM
    Arkan
    LSU
    Alab
    Aubr

  • @dentonyoung4314
    @dentonyoung4314 3 месяца назад +7

    I think it's time to take the SEC and Big 10 down a peg or three -- hundred. Remove their power by force and then implement this Super League plan.

    • @RD-jc2eu
      @RD-jc2eu 3 месяца назад +2

      "Remove their power by force..." ---- Lol... by whose force? The only "force" that might be able to wield that kind of power in this issue is the federal government, and no one really wants them to get involved.

    • @dentonyoung4314
      @dentonyoung4314 3 месяца назад +2

      @@RD-jc2eu R-O-N-G, wrong! NCAA Commissioner Chuck Baker *specifically said he wants the feds more involved* in making rules for college sports. As much as I dislike Ol' Chuck, he's got a good point here. Remember, it's not just about football. College sports need to be sensibly re-regionalized so that UCLA's gymnastics team doesn't have to travel to Piscataway, NJ for a conference meet at Rutgers: they should have to travel to Corvallis, Oregon instead.

    • @BallisticBevo
      @BallisticBevo 3 месяца назад

      ​@@dentonyoung4314UCLA is a state university governed by the state of California. The state of California has made the decision the are okay with that. Who are you or the federal government to tell them they are wrong. Especially when everyone really knows your real motivation. You're seeking socialism!

  • @GrouchyKraut
    @GrouchyKraut 3 месяца назад

    I've been saying for years the Power 5 need to split off from everyone else. It's ridiculous for Alabama to play Liberty. Division 1 is too bloated.

    • @RagedContinuum
      @RagedContinuum 3 месяца назад

      it helps the smaller programs out financially

  • @johnstarnes1925
    @johnstarnes1925 3 месяца назад +2

    Let me save you ten minutes nobody knows wtf cfb is going to do.

  • @tomrippey5231
    @tomrippey5231 3 месяца назад

    This is a bad take. B1G fans and SEC fans are excited about expansion because it means better conference games. I wish B1G would go to 10 conference games. SEC is doing its fans a disservice by sticking to eight. Numbers don’t lie. No one wants to see KSU vs. Baylor or Wake vs. Syracuse.

    • @stevedorsey4898
      @stevedorsey4898 3 месяца назад

      Rutgers and Iowa is so compelling. Give me a break

  • @bobdaluga418
    @bobdaluga418 3 месяца назад +1

    It’s really a shame that coaches like Franklin, Day and others plus the Big Ten president had a hand in running Harbaugh out of Big Ten. It’s a shame a great coach like that left Big Ten because of professional jealousy.

    • @lawrencematthes8948
      @lawrencematthes8948 3 месяца назад

      He left by his own choice. Other coaches didn't have anything to do with it. He considered leaving almost every year. Michigan even considered firing him at one point. Since when do opposing coaches deciding who coaches at other schools? That's a joke.

    • @bobdaluga418
      @bobdaluga418 3 месяца назад +1

      @@lawrencematthes8948 just like when Big Ten suspended he during a flight to Penn State. The Big Ten was going to run him out of the Big Ten. Know, I hope you enjoy Ryan Day, running rough shod over the Big Ten.

    • @GrouchyKraut
      @GrouchyKraut 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@bobdaluga418 bro he was on hot seat for years before pulling a national championship out of his ass. Most Michigan fans were calling for his head less than 10 months ago...

    • @bobdaluga418
      @bobdaluga418 3 месяца назад +2

      @@GrouchyKraut he pulled a national championship out of &$@ undefeated, ya just got lucky. You must be a buckeye, I guess when your coach was born on 3rd base. Listen Harbaugh took his lumps, but he overcame

    • @squiresam
      @squiresam 3 месяца назад +1

      Harbaugh left because there is less pressure coaching in the NFL, and its not a constant year round job. The money is close to the same, but the experience is completely different.

  • @ianjones2068
    @ianjones2068 3 месяца назад +3

    The B1G and SEC are big boys in college football, but they are not close to the NFL. Has anyone thought that the NFL might actually have a stake in the future of college football? They also might see the potential money they could make by getting involved. They already have a union, collective bargaining, etc. and see the chaos now as a chance to make their own college football conference.
    This plan had flaws, but the fact that there was an NFL official involved in the plan should raise eyebrows. I can see why the SEC and B1G don't like it, which is they don't want 80 teams. But there could be another reason - NFL. Let's face it the NFL tells TV networks what they want, not the other way around like the SEC and B1G. There was 123 million people who watched the Super Bowl, compared to 25 million who watched the CFB championship.
    If the NFL gets involved it changes everything. The SEC and B1G don't want that, so they are going to have to let more teams in or risk the offended schools with good college football teams getting left out running off to be a farm system team for the NFL. Less money at first no doubt, but preferential treatment by the NFL for their players in terms of training, and perhaps even the draft.

    • @BallisticBevo
      @BallisticBevo 3 месяца назад +2

      If you all want to try to convince people that you're a farm club of the NFL. Therefore the public at large should tune in to watch Kansas State play Syracuse or Boston College vs Texas Tech in the same time slot as Texas vs Michigan or Georgia vs Ohio State. Go for it. The jokes will write themselves. There is a reason that obviously escapes you. Why the NFL only has teams in major markets.

    • @ianjones2068
      @ianjones2068 3 месяца назад

      @@BallisticBevo Of course you will make more money at first, but you have three problems:
      1. As time goes on...more and more NFL quality players will not be playing at the blue bloods anymore when they can hook up with a college team that gives them direct access to the NFL.
      2. The farm club will fall under the collective bargaining and union of the NFL. I am not sure college football conferences can survive legally (antitrust, etc.) unless they do something drastic.
      3. The NFL has plenty of their own viewers. How do you get New York City or Philadelphia to care about college football? Slap a future New York Giants or Philadelphia Eagles player label on them.
      Come see Syracuse play Boston College...future Buffalo Bills players vs future New England Patriots players. See how this works?

    • @terencebaca1990
      @terencebaca1990 3 месяца назад

      It’s true the NFL is tremendously profitable, but that does not mean the NFL will eventually run CFB. The true power brokers will be an alliance of ESPN with the 8 most valuable CFB bluebloods. Together they will build a 32-34 team Super League that will look remarkably like the NFL.

    • @BallisticBevo
      @BallisticBevo 3 месяца назад

      ​@@ianjones2068​​1. Jerry Jones is very displeased that he has to give money to Detroit. You aren't convincing him to give it to 'farm clubs' in hick towns with few fans, small stadiums, and poor local television ratings. Nevermind their poor television national appeal. Again, there is a reason the NFL only has teams in major markets. Without investments by team owners. Investments I might add they'll be expecting heathy returns for. Returns more in line with. Turn over you football programs to private equity. Few state sponsored universities are that dumb. You'll never match what we're already earning. 2. The SEC and B1G already has enough revenue to settle our legal issues. The 'big 12' and others don't and the NFL isn't taking on the legal obligation for you. 3. You really think that slapping an Eagles trade marked logo on a Kansas State helmet is viable? 😂😂😂. You people are beyond desperate and it's pretty pathetic to wittness. Nobody in the SEC or B1G however is buy your smokescreen threats to give you socialism.