Wow. What a cool road trip. Tank you so much for sharing your adventure. I am planning to visit Norway from Munich my hometown and may go up north to the Lofoten with my Tesla Model 3 LR which I am driving since August 2019. I am more than 10.000km into this electric future and I will for sure never ever own a Diesel or Gasoline car again. Tesla rocks.
We did a simular trip last summer. 6200km with a M3 long range awd Oslo, Sunne, GOthenburg , Rostock , Berlin, Praha, saltsburg, Hallstatt, Slovenia, croatzia, cortina, Brenner, Stelvio, Davos, Zurich, colmar, luxenburg, Belgium, Amsterdam, korsoer, westcost Sweden, back to norway. SuC works fantastic, no app, no rdif, no sms. You just plug it in.
Hi Patrik, wonderful video thanks. I have along range AWD and did a 4480 km (2800 mile) road trip this past summer here in the US. Most relaxed driving ever. You are spot on about the Supercharger network and the Desination Chargers. It is way ahead of all others and less expensive as well. Tesla has everything so well integrated. They are years ahead of all other auto manufactures. Best auto I have ever owned!
nice - two years ago we made a trip from switzerland to north of norway, then back berlin etc.. overall 7500km in ~ one and half week. Was amazing . Model S P85 2013
Hello Patrik, I’m expecting my Model 3 Performance next week. Browsing RUclips I came across your video from years ago. It’s still super relevant and nice to see that it’s easy to charge so easy everywhere. The part about energy management with the typical and expected range really boosted my confidence to take the car on road trips! Great video!
Totally agree about range. I never hit even EPA in any other car, but often exceed it in Model 3. If below 65-70 mph in dry weather, I think WLTP range, or even 600 kms is very possible
Thank you for sharing this info, it really helps when ordinary people doing real-life scenarios that it helps us to make the best decisions with our first EV purchase. Awesome summary of a very long trip.
Great video Patrik, thanks. Puts to bed some of my doubts about our trip from London to Tirol/Austria in May. I've had my Model 3 performance since September and supercharging has never been a problem in the UK - very relieved to hear this is the case in Europe also.
As a new first time Tesla owner, I eagerly consumed each of your words and being from the United States your video was even more interesting. Thank you for the time and effort you gave to produce the video and thank you for letting me ride along. I also subscribed.
Two things: 1. If you actually want to cut down charging times, then supercharge only to 50 - 60% and drive it down to 10-15% before plugging in. This means more stops, but usually only 8 minutes or so each, every 2 hours... i.e. *just* enough to get coffee. 2. Very good that you pointed out the difference in running costs between Tesla and every other electric car, but you didn't mention the fact that the Model 3 is the *fastest* charging EV, by a factor of about 2, in terms of range vs. time. This is another super-important reason why Tesla is massively better than other makes for long-distance trips.
Adam Brown Yes all true, and now the super chargers are more updated since I did the trip and are actually even faster. The fact that it is the fastest charging car per km or miles is really worth pointing out, I agree. At the time putting the video together i hadn’t realized that the Audi e-tron or the Porsche Taycan always will be slower filling up the same range compared to a model 3, even if the electricity travels faster into their batteries. This is for sure a misconception that needs to be explained!
Good job Patrik! Thank you for video. I have Tesla Model 3 SR+ and I am going to ski to Holmenkollen (Oslo) from Bratislava (Slovakia) in March, so it will be 1700 km, 2 days challenge for me. The longest trip I did in one day was 600 km to Nurnberg (2-3 stops) and it was not a problem even with a snowing. I tried also IONITY charger and they are as fast as Tesla Supercharger.
Running Tesla Yes, Ionity chargers are fast as well and they seem to be adding stations more and more which is great. The best thing is that we can use both the super chargers and all the other chargers as well which makes it even more relevant and convenient to drive a Tesla.
Trevligt att se!. Köpte en Begagnad S90D för tre veckor sedan och detta inspirerade verkligen mig att ta bilen till landstället i Kroatien nästa sommar.
WheresDAfreeWIFI I don‘t own an electric car and it pisses me off, because the way I look at it is what if an electric car owner decided to park and block a pump at a petrol station? The ICE a-hole would scream bloody murder.
I agree that Superchargers and destination chargers are easy to use. The Eon charger in Copenhagen you showed is often used by Danes having a flat rate subscription. Also Clever chargers in Denmark are typically used with a flat rate subscription. Flat rate is like 800kr pr month for charging both home and on public eon chargers. Usually the EasyPark app can open Eon chargers too, but it cost 5,5 kr/kWh where electricity in Denmark from a plug cost around 2,5kr
Thomas Vestergaard thanks for that info! Another interesting and not so well thought through issue about those parking spaces is that you may only park there maximum 4 hours (for EVs, ICE cars can park all night) no matter when you park there. I got there at 11.30 pm and all of them were free. That meant I were supposed to move my car at 3.30 in the middle of the night instead of 8.00 in the morning when I was leaving. Point is that it’s inconvenient to begin with and highly unlikely four cars will arrive at 3.30 in the morning with EVs. And why have different rules for ICE vehicles (more favorable for ICE vehicles) than EVs in a garage? In Stockholm the rules are the same in all parking garages only the charging is free. And of course they had put a ticket on my car around 4 am. And I spent a fortune on charging AND the parking space in itself since there were two different procedures for each of them (parking & charging)
Thanks for this, I may drive down to my sister in-laws in Genoa this summer (from London) if I buy a model 3 (we have been driving BMW i3 for the last 2 years). A few tips for everyone here .... Use a better route planner (ABRP) to plan out the whole trip ... watch TeslaBjorn's 1000km tests, turns out it is more efficient to drive fast, arrive to charge at 5%, charge to 60%, leave and repeat. His best is 10 hours in his performance with 19" wheels, but he has just done 10.5 hours in a SR+ .... In the UK the perf is £13k more expensive than the SR+. Smaller wheel size has a big impact on efficiency and range (but the 20's look much better :) ) .... Ionity chargers (202 and counting) are faster and cheaper (if you charge fully) so worth considering. ABRP calculates the journey from Calais to Genoa is 45 minutes longer (approx 1200km) in a SR+ than a performance. Previously when I owned diesel cars we always drove to Italy, in a model 3 it will take around about an hour longer than in a diesel ... small price to pay for not polluting the environment and your fellow humans !
Malcolm Hedges Yes, and if you just plan your lunch break or other stops and charge at the same time, the “extra” time isn’t really anything you need to count in. I’ve seen some of Björn’s videos of course, and have tried different ways of driving but not at all as scientifically as Bjorn has. To me the overall realization which is great is that you really don’t need to think so much about how you drive, slowly or fast, because at least on my trip there were so many charging stations along the route. Good luck with your trip to Genoa!
@@patrik8228 Yeah I agree, the i3 would take 18 hours so we'd have to stop overnight, previously we tend to drive for 2 - 3 hours, stop for a break, swap over and that way my wife and I share the driving and are rested enough to do it in one hit. We normally catch the euro tunnel early in the morning (6:30am) and get to Genoa about 8:00 - 9:00pm (adjusted for time zone). With the i3 as you mention we'd be dealing with a variety of different charge providers, OK we can use plug share and new motion but the chargers tend to be unreliable (although Ionity is helping here) and it's 2 hours driving and then 30 minutes + charging. The combination of the Supercharger network with it's simplicity and Ionity increasing availability makes the model 3 an obvious choice in my opinion. Now my quandry is which model 3, my heart says performance but my head says SR+ :) We have solar at home and I will switch soon to an overnight electricity tariff which will reduce home charging costs to £1 per 100 miles.
@Malcolm Hedges If you care about the performance (speed & handling) I can certainly recommend it, it’s great fun to drive. Feels like spaceship and it’s so easy to drive fast whenever you feel like it. On the other hand if it’s not something you care so much about I would go for the dual motor long range!
@@patrik8228 My last car was a manual Cayman GTS :) But to be honest I think the LR AWD is plenty quick enough. I've test driven the performance, my wife said it made her feel sick !
@Malcolm Hedges 😂 my wife says the same, I can only drive very legally when she’s in the car or else she will start whining. I don’t know how much the difference is in the UK but in Sweden now it’s only about 3.300 euro between the LR and the Performance. For me that makes the choice simple. And it’s always nice with the extra range (compared to the standard range).
Beautiful Scenery thanks for sharing. Thanks for pointing out the misconception people have about EV’s. Now the Tesla has created, and continuing to expand, a very reliable strong fast charging network long-distance travel is easy!
Nice trip, I am live in Denmark. My advice is to avoid Clever and E-on and Ionity at all cost unless you have a subscription, I don't recommend to subscribe to any of them, they really are not cheap (unless you drive +35K km/year), I can recommend Evse at the moment for a home charger since you get money back when charging unless you own your own charger
@soamjena No the cameras don't record all the time, they are used in different ways for different purposes as I understand it. If you're driving or using the Autopilot the cameras help out with several things such as positioning the vehicle and seeing other traffic (together with radars and infra red sensors if I have got it right). But if the car is parked and someone tries to break in for example or another car bumps into it, then they will record. The car is mine, I didn't rent it.
Nice video thanks! I'm so looking forward to getting a Model 3, I'm not there yet but hopefully this year it will happen! It's interesting that legacy car makers just cannot get their heads around the need for a decent changing network. Of course up to now "fuel" has never been their problem! To compete with Tesla all the ICE makers need to work together to build a joint network in collaboration with the oil companies. It's going to be painful for all of them but its the only way. The different standards/procedures of non-Tesla chargers almost seem like they are making it as hard as possible to use EVs!
Nice! En fråga, hur är ljudvolymen från väg o vind i bilen? Idag har jag en relativt ny Hyundai (2019) och den är inte supertyst direkt. Tesla är ju ändå en prislapp av en premiumbil, men hade velat veta hur din upplevelse är av det!
Harry Marshall Agree! I actually think you'd be looking at £1.200+ in a comparable petrol car, such as a BMW M3 Competition or MB AMG C63. Probably even more than that since I believe it would be extremely hard to drive them that efficiently (and yes, I know if you own one of those cars the last thing you're thinking about is driving economically. And then you really need to stop to fill it up after about 350 km).
Great video! Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm starting to plan a long trip (~2000km one way) and was wondering how was the process you following to get the hotels with the destination chargers. In the video, you explained that you used the website to find the destination chargers. Did you search those first and then find a hotel nearby or did you use a hotel finder where you could also filter by destination chargers (Tesla or other)? Thanks! Looking forward to receiving my Model Y Long Range and do a road trip :)
Nice video, thank you .. I want to know that , how the comfort of the car is?How is the suspension comfort ?How is road noise compare with the other cars for example Bmw Audi or Mercedes?
@Hasan Yilmaz I think the comfort is very good. Some people complain about the road noise on this car and its true that it is not as quiet as the Model S for example. But keep in mind that on this version the tyres are very low profile 235/35-20 inch which of course always is bad if you want a quiet interior. But I would say that if you make a relevant comparison with a BMW M3 Competition or a Mercedes C63 AMG, my bet would be that the Tesla is more quiet actually. Both the BMW and the MB have wide tyres with very low profile AND very loud engines and exhausts. Another sensation that is different with a Tesla is that BECAUSE you don't hear any engine noise, you INSTEAD hear a lot of other noises such as from the road or the wind. The engine in a normal car masks other noises so to speak, but we're so used hearing the engine noise so we don't think much about it. The seats are super comfortable. I was afraid that I would get back ache driving so far, but didn't have a problem at all. They were so good, better than in any other car I have owned and I have a BMW now also, and have had Audis, BMWs and Minis.Suspension - it is super good BUT to my taste it could be even stiffer! But it feels very solid and quiet and the car feels very solid over bumps or uneven surface.
@@patrik8228Thank you,I have discovery sport diesel and I want to change car with electric , I afraid that the quality of Tesla but I think now my next car is Tesla ,there is no other car with the autopilot like Tesla right now , and it is very comfortable in long range road and every passing day charge problem is disappeared.Thanks for the information you shared.
What will be the future of Tesla superchargers? I cannot imagine that in 10-20 years time they will still be proprietary and only for Tesla owners. I might be very wrong, of course.
Well, a lot of things will change over the next decade I´m sure. Who would have imagined that a completely new car brand would also build its own global network of "Gas Stations"? As if BMW started building BMW gas stations everywhere... exclusively for BMW owners... From what I have understood, Elon has offered other brands to be part of the network but that they have declined. I may be wrong about this but I have read it in several different articles.
@@patrik8228 Yes that's correct. I have however also read that the terms/conditions on how to become part of the network were very unfavourable. Time will tell, obviously.
@@davidsommen1324 I think you can read about the terms on Teslas website, I think the idea is that they provide you with the charging station but you will have to take all costs for electricity yourself. And that it may improve your business by more people seeking out your establishment (an hotel, a restaurant, or whatever it is). Apparently they must have succeeded because if one thinks the superchargers are everywhere it´s nothing compared to the destination chargers which seem to be all over. But yes, time will tell, as always : )
I want to travel around the U.S. and Canada in my Model 3 Performance for a while and camp out of it. If it goes well I want to do the same in Europe. I was thinking that I could ship it over but then it was pointed out to me that you have different charging ports there and maybe I'm better off either renting another one there or buying a used one to sell when I'm ready to come home. I could rent mine in the U.S. off of Turo to offset the monthly cost. Do you know of a good site to find used Teslas in Europe or a company that rents them? Are there older S's with free, unlimited, lifetime Supercharging there?
Nice video. As a german I wonder, how you could keep calm in Germany driving the performance model :-) While driving fast on autobahn you usually don't get tired, because beeing concentrated keeps you awake, but it's exhausting what makes you tired when you arrive. Due to Björn Nyland the sweet spot for driving fast and charge fast is around 170 Km/H for consumption/charging.
Wicked journey, great effort. Thank you I've ordered the MG at £24.5k but think the M3 would be soooooo much easier to live with, its just the £50k .... aargh!
GrrMeister On this particular trip it cost nothing because when I ordered my car I used a referral code which gave me six months of free charging. However, now when I charge in Sweden it usually costs 0,2 euro per kWh at the super chargers. I believe that in Europe, because of much higher prices of petrol and diesel than in the US for example, the cost is 1/10 to fill up an electric car compared to an ICE vehicle.
Great video Patrick it is a trip I would very much like to do in my soon to own Model 3, can you give me an approximate amount of money you spent on all that supercharging? Thank you!
@scottsipodis As explained in other comments, it didn't cost me anything because when I ordered my car I used a referral code which gave me six months of free super charging. However, I have done a rough calculation and I think the whole trip would have cost less than 300 € if I would have had to pay for the supercharging. Maybe even less actually, perhaps even closer to 200 € since I used the destination chargers when staying over at hotels and they seem to always be free as long as you are a customer (in a hotel or a restaurant which has destination chargers installed).
Patrik thank you I did not spot that in the comments my fault. I am living in Stockholm, but work in Norway and will move there in a few months. Looking to buy a Model 3 in the next month or two (no VAT on Tesla in Norway quite nice) and I plan to drive back to my old home in Malta as well as my original home in Ireland. So your video was exactly what I was looking for! I have subscribed to see what you get up to next!
While it may be as easy or easier than a gas car to drive a BEV long distance, there are some subtle differences. It's those differences that seem to terrify many folks.
from what I can see, there are plenty of superchargers in Croatia, the nearest Albania seems to be in Vrgorac. You can check out an app called PlugShare, there you can see all EV-chargers, not just Teslas own. It seems there are some EV-chargers in Albania you can charge a Tesla with but no superchargers. If you search on Teslas web page you will find out that there are plenty of Supercharger stations being built very close to Albania in Greece and other countries around Albania right now. However, right now it doesn't seem to exist any plans building supercharger stations within Albania right now, so once there you would need to use other chargers. But it seems possible to drive there almost all the way if using the one in Vrgorac as the last one (depending on what direction you're coming from of course).
My only reservation about Tesla is charging on the road. I want to stop for only a few minutes--long enough to visit the Men's Room--and then be on my way. That's why I'm going to buy an Opel Corsa.
Nice trip! Att ni orkade så långa delsträckor varje dag.👍 What was the total cost for the trip, if you exclude the free super chargers? How many kWh did you use? Average cost per kWh? Trying to convince my wife to get a Model 3....😳 Gott jobbat!
Tackar! All charging was free actually. The whole trip would most likely have cost less than 300 € if I would have had to pay for the supercharging. Maybe even closer to 200€ since using the Destination chargers always seems to be completely free (I think that is a requirement by Tesla). If you mean other costs than charging, I’m not sure how much exactly, but of course hotel stay overs always cost something. I drove a Nissan Leaf for 2,5 years and I can tell you that driving electric WILL save you a lot of money. If you calculate over three years and if you drive a lot (say at least 1500 km/year) it is insane NOT to get a fully electric car. In Sweden, the normal price at the superchargers right now is around 2,20 sek per kWh. That is phenomenally cheap. If your wife cares about your economy and the environment, there just isn't any other alternative I would say!
Rikard Ekvall ledsen, såg inte att du skrev ”excluding the free supercharging” - har ändrat svaret, men lite osäker på exakt vilka kostnader du undrar över!
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Dejvor yes that’s the idea I think. At every single location where I’ve used them they’ve been free. I think Tesla provide an establishment with destination chargers for free as long as the hotel/restaurant/golf club etc, won’t bill the Tesla car owner for the charging. And the hotel (or whatever establishment it is) will hopefully get more customers because they offer EV charging at their premises.
I didn't spend anything since I had used a referral code when ordering my car. It gave me six months of free supercharging which I used. I understand that the prices may vary depending on where you are in Europe. I have only had to pay for supercharging in Sweden after my six months were up. For example, I did a trip to south of Sweden and back which was 1300 km in total. On that trip, all I spent was 250 sek which is about 25 euro. One of my friends who drives an Alfa Stelvio spent 2600 sek (260 euro) on petrol, same exact trip.
Birk Kromann I couldn’t get hold of any supercharging history since it was free, only history where I’ve had to pay is registered as it seems. But, if I calculate it from all other supercharging the amount of kWh spent on the trip to Italy and back the total is likely to be between 800-1000 kWh, possibly even less but it’s just a guess. Worth to note also is that we had the AC on at all times and were playing loud music most of the trip. The car really consumes very little when driving softly. In Sweden the supercharging that I’ve done is usually costing below 0,2 euro per kWh which is low compared to all other charging stations here.
Nenad Dimitrijević well I think I did mention it actually when I engage it and demonstrate it in the video... and the time span is actually much shorter than 1-2 min. It’s closer to 20-30 seconds I would say.
Gary Stremmelaar The trip was in total about 6200 kilometers or 3852 miles including the return trip to Stockholm. Fortunately it didn't cost me anything because I had used a referral code when I ordered my car which gave me six months of free charging at superchargers. Are you familiar with the referral code system Tesla is using? If I had had to pay for it i reckon it would have cost me less than 300 euro, maybe even less, since my experience with the superchargers is that they are really cheap, at least in Sweden.
@@johnmaynard5949 oh, that's a good question... I would say it depends a lot on the temperature outside but if it was like on this trip I think you would be able to drive around 400 km on one charge quite easily. Carwow recently did a test in the UK driving as far as they could but starting out with I think 95% state of charge but it was only 7 degrees celsius when they started and just 3 degrees when they finished (close to freezing point) and they did over 400 km and I think they probably drove around 120 km/h. My experience is that if you go quicker than that, let's say 140-150, the car starts consuming much more. If you really want to go far on one charge you should keep it at around 90-100. But my main point is really that it may actually be better to drive fast and only charge to around 85% SOC (state of charge) and then fill it up again when at around 10-15%.
The thing is: I have a volvo v60 T6 with 320 hp. At the free or highway i drive, normally at 150km/h. At that speed the range is around 500 km. No Tesla has that range at that speed. I do, at least a trip of 600 km to times a week, on the free way. Which means that I onde have to stop once, for 5 minutes to fill my car with gasoline. With the Tesla I would have to stop, at least for 2 times on a supercharger, for 20 or 30 minutes each time. So, I believe that one day electric cars will be a solution. But not just yet.
Rogerio Gomes Osório No, it’s a misconception that you would need to stop “at least 2 times” - you would only need to stop once just like in the Volvo. (Going steady in 150 km/h for 300 km on one charge is no problem for the Model 3) You may be able to fill up the Volvo in just 5 min assuming there are no lines with cars waiting or when paying, that you or your traveling companions don’t need to use the restrooms or wishes to buy coffee or snacks. Assuming you don’t have a gas station as a neighbor you would have to start your journey in the Volvo without a full tank which means you may actually have to fill it up twice. In the Tesla you always leave home with a full tank if you want. You will have to take a break for coffee, that much is true. When I’ve driven my normal cars 600 km I’ve always stopped for coffee or lunch anyway to make the trip comfortable and enjoyable, only now I don’t need to move the car to do so after having filled it up. If you count in the time you save the whole year by not having to go to a gas station (which I had to do once a week at least) there really is no competition. Also you’re comparing a car with almost 200 hp less, if you compared an ICE car with similar power the comparison would be more in Tesla’s favor since those cars consume even more than yours and don’t have bigger gas tanks. And so far we haven’t even mentioned the cost savings and the environment. So sorry Rogerio, go and test a car a few days if you can, see for yourself what it’s like!
Patrik hello. Thanks for your reply. There’s no doubt that electric cars have positive points. But you have to admit that is not the perfect world yet. For exemple, there’s no use to announce that a Tesla model 3 has a range of 530 km with a fully charged battery if, after, you can not fully charge it fully because will damage your battery... However, the main reason why I look at Tesla cars with miss believed is because Tesla cars have really bad reputation on their building and service quality. Miss lined panels, interior noises, wheals that break... just to name a few... which is a shame, because I like who the car looks and many of the things that it offers. But this are problems that I would never find on my Volvo, for exemple... If you wanna know, I think Tesla owners are more forgiven with Tesla’s car problems... Can I ask you, please: A) how many km’s can you do going at 150 km/h on the freeway? B) how much does it cost you to fully charge the battery at a supercharger point? Thanks. Keep up with the good work.
@@rogeriogomesosorio4755 Thank you for your questions, I will try to answer as honestly as I can! First of all, I think one has to admit that there are differences, but in my experience almost all for the better. Do you fill up your gasoline/diesel car completely exactly every day? No one does except if you're a taxi driver. Perhaps you go to the gas station once a week or like many of my friends maybe once every two weeks. So most of the time they drive around with a gas tank which is far from full, right? Its the same with an electric car, only you don't even need to think about filling up your car if you can charge at home. The car will always have sufficient "fuel" in the tank for your everyday consumption. So there's no reason for having a fully charged battery exactly every day. Numerous tests online point out that Teslas batteries in fact are extremely good over time and that you may charge them to 90% every day if you wish without losing much capacity. I drive a lot every day and because the range is so good I only need to charge to 50% at night.The quality... I was like you, remember I still drive a BMW as well. When I got to test drive my friends Model S I was completely surprised because it felt so good, the doors, the interior, the way it felt overall. How could this car have such a bad reputation? I checked cars at their showrooms and got the same impression, I thought everything felt great, opening and closing doors, the interior, materials etc. I honestly don't understand what people are talking about when they criticize Teslas quality. And this is a car that's SAFER than all other cars according to both european and american safety testings (Euro NCAP etc). I've had BMWs, Audis, Minis, all new, and I can tell you I certainly have had problems with them. Of course Teslas aren't perfect, no car is. But the rumours ar much exaggerated in my opinion. To anser your two questions: A - I really don't know, but since the car easily can do what it promises if driven normally/legally, my guess is you could go well over 300 km on one charge driving 150 km/h. I drove much faster for long stretches on this trip and I was surprised how efficient it is. However, if its really cold outside, electric cars do lose range if you have the heating on high. I intend to test this in a few weeks in the north of Sweden. B - This depends on in which country you are, but in Sweden the cost is usually about 2 sek/kWh which equals about 0,16 euro (16 cents). So filling up the car if it is completely empty (even if no car usually is, no matter if its an ICE or electric) it means about 12-14 euro. All in all, I must say this car is clearly better in all areas already than any ICE car. OK, if you only need a car to go as far as possible without having to fill it up, then you can buy a diesel car with a small engine and not so much horsepower that can go 1000 plus km, but I believe most people will stop anyway to take a break, to visit restrooms, or whatever. I hope you will experience it first hand somehow, and not listen so much to rumours online.
Did you use the more efficient wheel add on? Or did it not matter because you mentioned you had 6 months free charging so it’s not necessary? I would be very interested to see if electric charging is more expensive where fuel is more expensive because it seems, the more expensive fuel is, the more expensive the electricity is. Maybe that is to do with how poorer countries can have businesses that can exploit the national average wealth. Idk tho seems interesting 🧐
The Legend 27 No, the wheels are the performance 20-inch wheels. They're wider and very low profile and no caps. It seems to me that what really matters is everything else, how you drive of course, how efficient the electric motors are, drag coefficient etc. It would indeed be interesting to compare trips with and without the more efficient wheel caps, I'm sure there must be videos about that on RUclips. As mentioned, we didn't try to save energy by turning off the climate control or not using the sound system, but did try to drive very efficiently certain distances by not accelerating hard or keeping very high speeds for long stretches of time. And then the consumption really drops. However, on some distances I drove at very high speed for hours and instead did more frequent stops at superchargers and only filled the car up to about 80% (only stopping about 10-15 mins) to get going again quickly and keeping the very high speed. That kind of behaviour can actually sometimes make you reach a certain destination faster IF there are enough superchargers along the way. This because the very last 10%, to get to a 100%, takes much longer when charging. And another good thing about that strategy is that it may be better for the battery not charging to a 100%. (Even if they say its no problem as long as you don't leave the car standing still with a 100% charge, I'm not so sure)
Realised I didn't really answer your question in my previous, sorry! I'm not aware of the electricity rates in all the countries we crossed. So no clue really, but in Sweden normally the cost of driving electric is one tenth of driving a gas or diesel car IF you charge your car at home.
Wow. What a cool road trip. Tank you so much for sharing your adventure. I am planning to visit Norway from Munich my hometown and may go up north to the Lofoten with my Tesla Model 3 LR which I am driving since August 2019. I am more than 10.000km into this electric future and I will for sure never ever own a Diesel or Gasoline car again. Tesla rocks.
WM , Europe last summer, this summer we are heading to Lofoten to in a LR
Munich is beautiful, I've been there but it was a while ago, I'm planning to do a Europe trip hopefully and will be visiting Munich again!
We did a simular trip last summer.
6200km with a M3 long range awd
Oslo, Sunne, GOthenburg , Rostock , Berlin, Praha, saltsburg, Hallstatt, Slovenia, croatzia, cortina, Brenner, Stelvio, Davos, Zurich, colmar, luxenburg, Belgium, Amsterdam, korsoer, westcost Sweden, back to norway.
SuC works fantastic, no app, no rdif, no sms. You just plug it in.
The further east you get the harder it gets. Tesla superchargers get very rare east of Praha.
Hi Patrik, wonderful video thanks. I have along range AWD and did a 4480 km (2800 mile) road trip this past summer here in the US. Most relaxed driving ever. You are spot on about the Supercharger network and the Desination Chargers. It is way ahead of all others and less expensive as well. Tesla has everything so well integrated. They are years ahead of all other auto manufactures. Best auto I have ever owned!
nice - two years ago we made a trip from switzerland to north of norway, then back berlin etc.. overall 7500km in ~ one and half week. Was amazing . Model S P85 2013
Nice concise vlog, relevant details and well laid out. Helpful for me to make a decision to get a Model 3 LR when my lease is up this Spring.
Hello Patrik, I’m expecting my Model 3 Performance next week. Browsing RUclips I came across your video from years ago. It’s still super relevant and nice to see that it’s easy to charge so easy everywhere. The part about energy management with the typical and expected range really boosted my confidence to take the car on road trips!
Great video!
Totally agree about range. I never hit even EPA in any other car, but often exceed it in Model 3. If below 65-70 mph in dry weather, I think WLTP range, or even 600 kms is very possible
Thank you for sharing this info, it really helps when ordinary people doing real-life scenarios that it helps us to make the best decisions with our first EV purchase. Awesome summary of a very long trip.
Great video Patrik, thanks. Puts to bed some of my doubts about our trip from London to Tirol/Austria in May. I've had my Model 3 performance since September and supercharging has never been a problem in the UK - very relieved to hear this is the case in Europe also.
As a new first time Tesla owner, I eagerly consumed each of your words and being from the United States your video was even more interesting.
Thank you for the time and effort you gave to produce the video and thank you for letting me ride along.
I also subscribed.
Two things: 1. If you actually want to cut down charging times, then supercharge only to 50 - 60% and drive it down to 10-15% before plugging in. This means more stops, but usually only 8 minutes or so each, every 2 hours... i.e. *just* enough to get coffee. 2. Very good that you pointed out the difference in running costs between Tesla and every other electric car, but you didn't mention the fact that the Model 3 is the *fastest* charging EV, by a factor of about 2, in terms of range vs. time. This is another super-important reason why Tesla is massively better than other makes for long-distance trips.
Adam Brown Yes all true, and now the super chargers are more updated since I did the trip and are actually even faster. The fact that it is the fastest charging car per km or miles is really worth pointing out, I agree. At the time putting the video together i hadn’t realized that the Audi e-tron or the Porsche Taycan always will be slower filling up the same range compared to a model 3, even if the electricity travels faster into their batteries. This is for sure a misconception that needs to be explained!
Good job Patrik! Thank you for video.
I have Tesla Model 3 SR+ and I am going to ski to Holmenkollen (Oslo) from Bratislava (Slovakia) in March, so it will be 1700 km, 2 days challenge for me. The longest trip I did in one day was 600 km to Nurnberg (2-3 stops) and it was not a problem even with a snowing. I tried also IONITY charger and they are as fast as Tesla Supercharger.
Running Tesla Yes, Ionity chargers are fast as well and they seem to be adding stations more and more which is great. The best thing is that we can use both the super chargers and all the other chargers as well which makes it even more relevant and convenient to drive a Tesla.
Good luck, but Ionity changes the pricing plan from 1st Feb. €0.79 (69p) per kWh for Tesla, so no longer an option for unless it's an emergency.
Trevligt att se!. Köpte en Begagnad S90D för tre veckor sedan och detta inspirerade verkligen mig att ta bilen till landstället i Kroatien nästa sommar.
great video. very irritating to see ice cars park in charging spots. it just triggers us ev owners.
WheresDAfreeWIFI I don‘t own an electric car and it pisses me off, because the way I look at it is what if an electric car owner decided to park and block a pump at a petrol station? The ICE a-hole would scream bloody murder.
I agree that Superchargers and destination chargers are easy to use. The Eon charger in Copenhagen you showed is often used by Danes having a flat rate subscription. Also Clever chargers in Denmark are typically used with a flat rate subscription. Flat rate is like 800kr pr month for charging both home and on public eon chargers.
Usually the EasyPark app can open Eon chargers too, but it cost 5,5 kr/kWh where electricity in Denmark from a plug cost around 2,5kr
Thomas Vestergaard thanks for that info! Another interesting and not so well thought through issue about those parking spaces is that you may only park there maximum 4 hours (for EVs, ICE cars can park all night) no matter when you park there. I got there at 11.30 pm and all of them were free. That meant I were supposed to move my car at 3.30 in the middle of the night instead of 8.00 in the morning when I was leaving. Point is that it’s inconvenient to begin with and highly unlikely four cars will arrive at 3.30 in the morning with EVs. And why have different rules for ICE vehicles (more favorable for ICE vehicles) than EVs in a garage? In Stockholm the rules are the same in all parking garages only the charging is free. And of course they had put a ticket on my car around 4 am. And I spent a fortune on charging AND the parking space in itself since there were two different procedures for each of them (parking & charging)
Tack för en mycket välgjord recension av din Tesla.
Thx Patrik! Very concise and comprehensive manner of presenting the information!
Thanks for this, I may drive down to my sister in-laws in Genoa this summer (from London) if I buy a model 3 (we have been driving BMW i3 for the last 2 years). A few tips for everyone here .... Use a better route planner (ABRP) to plan out the whole trip ... watch TeslaBjorn's 1000km tests, turns out it is more efficient to drive fast, arrive to charge at 5%, charge to 60%, leave and repeat. His best is 10 hours in his performance with 19" wheels, but he has just done 10.5 hours in a SR+ .... In the UK the perf is £13k more expensive than the SR+. Smaller wheel size has a big impact on efficiency and range (but the 20's look much better :) ) .... Ionity chargers (202 and counting) are faster and cheaper (if you charge fully) so worth considering. ABRP calculates the journey from Calais to Genoa is 45 minutes longer (approx 1200km) in a SR+ than a performance. Previously when I owned diesel cars we always drove to Italy, in a model 3 it will take around about an hour longer than in a diesel ... small price to pay for not polluting the environment and your fellow humans !
Malcolm Hedges Yes, and if you just plan your lunch break or other stops and charge at the same time, the “extra” time isn’t really anything you need to count in. I’ve seen some of Björn’s videos of course, and have tried different ways of driving but not at all as scientifically as Bjorn has. To me the overall realization which is great is that you really don’t need to think so much about how you drive, slowly or fast, because at least on my trip there were so many charging stations along the route. Good luck with your trip to Genoa!
@@patrik8228 Yeah I agree, the i3 would take 18 hours so we'd have to stop overnight, previously we tend to drive for 2 - 3 hours, stop for a break, swap over and that way my wife and I share the driving and are rested enough to do it in one hit. We normally catch the euro tunnel early in the morning (6:30am) and get to Genoa about 8:00 - 9:00pm (adjusted for time zone). With the i3 as you mention we'd be dealing with a variety of different charge providers, OK we can use plug share and new motion but the chargers tend to be unreliable (although Ionity is helping here) and it's 2 hours driving and then 30 minutes + charging. The combination of the Supercharger network with it's simplicity and Ionity increasing availability makes the model 3 an obvious choice in my opinion. Now my quandry is which model 3, my heart says performance but my head says SR+ :) We have solar at home and I will switch soon to an overnight electricity tariff which will reduce home charging costs to £1 per 100 miles.
@Malcolm Hedges If you care about the performance (speed & handling) I can certainly recommend it, it’s great fun to drive. Feels like spaceship and it’s so easy to drive fast whenever you feel like it. On the other hand if it’s not something you care so much about I would go for the dual motor long range!
@@patrik8228 My last car was a manual Cayman GTS :) But to be honest I think the LR AWD is plenty quick enough. I've test driven the performance, my wife said it made her feel sick !
@Malcolm Hedges 😂 my wife says the same, I can only drive very legally when she’s in the car or else she will start whining. I don’t know how much the difference is in the UK but in Sweden now it’s only about 3.300 euro between the LR and the Performance. For me that makes the choice simple. And it’s always nice with the extra range (compared to the standard range).
Beautiful Scenery thanks for sharing. Thanks for pointing out the misconception people have about EV’s. Now the Tesla has created, and continuing to expand, a very reliable strong fast charging network long-distance travel is easy!
gives me a lot of confidence as I await my model Y.
how much mileage you can expect during snowy winter? i am interested in norway.
This was a very useful video. Thank you for taking the time.
Thank you for this video and for updating and sharing your thoughts.
Nice video. Hope you make more about your experiences with Tesla.
enricio I might do
Nice trip, I am live in Denmark. My advice is to avoid Clever and E-on and Ionity at all cost unless you have a subscription, I don't recommend to subscribe to any of them, they really are not cheap (unless you drive +35K km/year), I can recommend Evse at the moment for a home charger since you get money back when charging unless you own your own charger
Bullshit, i pay 675 dkk pr month for free charging, usually i do 3000 dkk for petrol
Tack för en fantastisk resa...
Thanks Patrik,
Really helpful.
Does the cameras on all sides record continuous ? And where did you rent it from ?
Which agency and per day amount paid ?
@soamjena No the cameras don't record all the time, they are used in different ways for different purposes as I understand it. If you're driving or using the Autopilot the cameras help out with several things such as positioning the vehicle and seeing other traffic (together with radars and infra red sensors if I have got it right). But if the car is parked and someone tries to break in for example or another car bumps into it, then they will record. The car is mine, I didn't rent it.
Great video, keep up the good work.
A very good 'real life' road trip experience. Thanks Patrik!
Drove from Linköping to Wales and back with 2021 M-3 5643 kilometers supercharger all the way.
A nice report. Maybe try going a bit further east next time. East of Prague it becomes a little more challenging, (but doable).
Super well done
Great video! I'm watching it one day before 1300km trip to Croatia 😂
Nice video thanks! I'm so looking forward to getting a Model 3, I'm not there yet but hopefully this year it will happen! It's interesting that legacy car makers just cannot get their heads around the need for a decent changing network. Of course up to now "fuel" has never been their problem!
To compete with Tesla all the ICE makers need to work together to build a joint network in collaboration with the oil companies. It's going to be painful for all of them but its the only way.
The different standards/procedures of non-Tesla chargers almost seem like they are making it as hard as possible to use EVs!
Or they can go bankrupt, the most likely scenario for most of them.
Great video. I’ve only had my model 3 for a few months, but I agree with your observations.
Nice! En fråga, hur är ljudvolymen från väg o vind i bilen? Idag har jag en relativt ny Hyundai (2019) och den är inte supertyst direkt. Tesla är ju ändå en prislapp av en premiumbil, men hade velat veta hur din upplevelse är av det!
Great video, really enjoyed watching it 👌🏻
Great review! What was the average cost of charging?
Great information! Thanks Swedish brother!
Thanks for sharing the video. How much was the cost of your trip? Did you calculate it against how much would you have spent in your BMW?
Great video. I am surprised that you were able to have such a good consumption with the Performance model 3. 😎👍🏼
One of the most impressive things abou this is that 4000 miles would cost like £200 in electricity. You'd be looking at £600+ in petrol etc.
Harry Marshall Agree! I actually think you'd be looking at £1.200+ in a comparable petrol car, such as a BMW M3 Competition or MB AMG C63. Probably even more than that since I believe it would be extremely hard to drive them that efficiently (and yes, I know if you own one of those cars the last thing you're thinking about is driving economically. And then you really need to stop to fill it up after about 350 km).
Nice video, you deserve much more subscribers!
Great video! Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm starting to plan a long trip (~2000km one way) and was wondering how was the process you following to get the hotels with the destination chargers. In the video, you explained that you used the website to find the destination chargers. Did you search those first and then find a hotel nearby or did you use a hotel finder where you could also filter by destination chargers (Tesla or other)? Thanks! Looking forward to receiving my Model Y Long Range and do a road trip :)
Nice video, thank you ..
I want to know that , how the comfort of the car is?How is the suspension comfort ?How is road noise compare with the other cars for example Bmw Audi or Mercedes?
@Hasan Yilmaz I think the comfort is very good. Some people complain about the road noise on this car and its true that it is not as quiet as the Model S for example. But keep in mind that on this version the tyres are very low profile 235/35-20 inch which of course always is bad if you want a quiet interior. But I would say that if you make a relevant comparison with a BMW M3 Competition or a Mercedes C63 AMG, my bet would be that the Tesla is more quiet actually. Both the BMW and the MB have wide tyres with very low profile AND very loud engines and exhausts. Another sensation that is different with a Tesla is that BECAUSE you don't hear any engine noise, you INSTEAD hear a lot of other noises such as from the road or the wind. The engine in a normal car masks other noises so to speak, but we're so used hearing the engine noise so we don't think much about it. The seats are super comfortable. I was afraid that I would get back ache driving so far, but didn't have a problem at all. They were so good, better than in any other car I have owned and I have a BMW now also, and have had Audis, BMWs and Minis.Suspension - it is super good BUT to my taste it could be even stiffer! But it feels very solid and quiet and the car feels very solid over bumps or uneven surface.
@@patrik8228Thank you,I have discovery sport diesel and I want to change car with electric , I afraid that the quality of Tesla but I think now my next car is Tesla ,there is no other car with the autopilot like Tesla right now , and it is very comfortable in long range road and every passing day charge problem is disappeared.Thanks for the information you shared.
Thank you, great video
Hi there. BMW guy here as well. Considering a Tesla as a replacement and as our only car. Have you been happy with the switch?
What will be the future of Tesla superchargers?
I cannot imagine that in 10-20 years time they will still be proprietary and only for Tesla owners.
I might be very wrong, of course.
Well, a lot of things will change over the next decade I´m sure. Who would have imagined that a completely new car brand would also build its own global network of "Gas Stations"? As if BMW started building BMW gas stations everywhere... exclusively for BMW owners... From what I have understood, Elon has offered other brands to be part of the network but that they have declined. I may be wrong about this but I have read it in several different articles.
@@patrik8228 Yes that's correct. I have however also read that the terms/conditions on how to become part of the network were very unfavourable. Time will tell, obviously.
@@davidsommen1324 I think you can read about the terms on Teslas website, I think the idea is that they provide you with the charging station but you will have to take all costs for electricity yourself. And that it may improve your business by more people seeking out your establishment (an hotel, a restaurant, or whatever it is). Apparently they must have succeeded because if one thinks the superchargers are everywhere it´s nothing compared to the destination chargers which seem to be all over. But yes, time will tell, as always : )
I want to travel around the U.S. and Canada in my Model 3 Performance for a while and camp out of it. If it goes well I want to do the same in Europe. I was thinking that I could ship it over but then it was pointed out to me that you have different charging ports there and maybe I'm better off either renting another one there or buying a used one to sell when I'm ready to come home. I could rent mine in the U.S. off of Turo to offset the monthly cost. Do you know of a good site to find used Teslas in Europe or a company that rents them? Are there older S's with free, unlimited, lifetime Supercharging there?
Hi Patrik, do you have the 20 wheels ore 19 in the videos?
Frank Skjelland 20 inch wheels!
Nice video. As a german I wonder, how you could keep calm in Germany driving the performance model :-) While driving fast on autobahn you usually don't get tired, because beeing concentrated keeps you awake, but it's exhausting what makes you tired when you arrive. Due to Björn Nyland the sweet spot for driving fast and charge fast is around 170 Km/H for consumption/charging.
Wicked journey, great effort. Thank you
I've ordered the MG at £24.5k but think the M3 would be soooooo much easier to live with, its just the £50k .... aargh!
What about the Model 3 standard for £38,500
This is just a great video!
*Great Video and just shows what a good EV such as Tesla with Supercharger Network can achieve. How much did the **_Charging_** actually Cost ?*
GrrMeister On this particular trip it cost nothing because when I ordered my car I used a referral code which gave me six months of free charging. However, now when I charge in Sweden it usually costs 0,2 euro per kWh at the super chargers. I believe that in Europe, because of much higher prices of petrol and diesel than in the US for example, the cost is 1/10 to fill up an electric car compared to an ICE vehicle.
Great video Patrick it is a trip I would very much like to do in my soon to own Model 3, can you give me an approximate amount of money you spent on all that supercharging? Thank you!
@scottsipodis As explained in other comments, it didn't cost me anything because when I ordered my car I used a referral code which gave me six months of free super charging. However, I have done a rough calculation and I think the whole trip would have cost less than 300 € if I would have had to pay for the supercharging. Maybe even less actually, perhaps even closer to 200 € since I used the destination chargers when staying over at hotels and they seem to always be free as long as you are a customer (in a hotel or a restaurant which has destination chargers installed).
Patrik thank you I did not spot that in the comments my fault.
I am living in Stockholm, but work in Norway and will move there in a few months. Looking to buy a Model 3 in the next month or two (no VAT on Tesla in Norway quite nice) and I plan to drive back to my old home in Malta as well as my original home in Ireland. So your video was exactly what I was looking for!
I have subscribed to see what you get up to next!
While it may be as easy or easier than a gas car to drive a BEV long distance, there are some subtle differences. It's those differences that seem to terrify many folks.
CMG30 yes indeed, and once you’ve got used to them you realize they’re so much for the better. May do a video about it.
Question: if I want to go to Albania, there are superchargers always to destination?..(!)..
from what I can see, there are plenty of superchargers in Croatia, the nearest Albania seems to be in Vrgorac. You can check out an app called PlugShare, there you can see all EV-chargers, not just Teslas own. It seems there are some EV-chargers in Albania you can charge a Tesla with but no superchargers. If you search on Teslas web page you will find out that there are plenty of Supercharger stations being built very close to Albania in Greece and other countries around Albania right now. However, right now it doesn't seem to exist any plans building supercharger stations within Albania right now, so once there you would need to use other chargers. But it seems possible to drive there almost all the way if using the one in Vrgorac as the last one (depending on what direction you're coming from of course).
Quality content 👍
My only reservation about Tesla is charging on the road. I want to stop for only a few minutes--long enough to visit the Men's Room--and then be on my way. That's why I'm going to buy an Opel Corsa.
Nice trip!
Att ni orkade så långa delsträckor varje dag.👍
What was the total cost for the trip, if you exclude the free super chargers?
How many kWh did you use? Average cost per kWh?
Trying to convince my wife to get a Model 3....😳
Gott jobbat!
Tackar! All charging was free actually. The whole trip would most likely have cost less than 300 € if I would have had to pay for the supercharging. Maybe even closer to 200€ since using the Destination chargers always seems to be completely free (I think that is a requirement by Tesla). If you mean other costs than charging, I’m not sure how much exactly, but of course hotel stay overs always cost something. I drove a Nissan Leaf for 2,5 years and I can tell you that driving electric WILL save you a lot of money. If you calculate over three years and if you drive a lot (say at least 1500 km/year) it is insane NOT to get a fully electric car. In Sweden, the normal price at the superchargers right now is around 2,20 sek per kWh. That is phenomenally cheap. If your wife cares about your economy and the environment, there just isn't any other alternative I would say!
Rikard Ekvall ledsen, såg inte att du skrev ”excluding the free supercharging” - har ändrat svaret, men lite osäker på exakt vilka kostnader du undrar över!
Very nice video, thank you .
Thank you for video
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Great video.
Wow, Looks Great.
Your subscriber count is going to explode! You have only 99 subscribers, for now.
The only thing that i miss on Model 3 is adsptive suspension.(not air)..
certainly, but I still like the suspension, it is much better than I had anticipated before getting the car.
Great useful video.
Imagine if you had M3 Long Range with aero wheels your range would have been much better!
Are destination chargers free?
Dejvor yes that’s the idea I think. At every single location where I’ve used them they’ve been free. I think Tesla provide an establishment with destination chargers for free as long as the hotel/restaurant/golf club etc, won’t bill the Tesla car owner for the charging. And the hotel (or whatever establishment it is) will hopefully get more customers because they offer EV charging at their premises.
@@patrik8228 its basically an investment for the hotel person to have a destination charger then in hopes of getting more customers
Dejvor exactly!
How much money did you spend on supercharging?
I didn't spend anything since I had used a referral code when ordering my car. It gave me six months of free supercharging which I used. I understand that the prices may vary depending on where you are in Europe. I have only had to pay for supercharging in Sweden after my six months were up. For example, I did a trip to south of Sweden and back which was 1300 km in total. On that trip, all I spent was 250 sek which is about 25 euro. One of my friends who drives an Alfa Stelvio spent 2600 sek (260 euro) on petrol, same exact trip.
Aah, of course! How many kWh did you use on the whole trip? 😊
Oh, good question! I have to see if I can find out how many was used on the whole trip. If I can figure it out I’ll get back to you!
Thanks 😊
Birk Kromann I couldn’t get hold of any supercharging history since it was free, only history where I’ve had to pay is registered as it seems. But, if I calculate it from all other supercharging the amount of kWh spent on the trip to Italy and back the total is likely to be between 800-1000 kWh, possibly even less but it’s just a guess. Worth to note also is that we had the AC on at all times and were playing loud music most of the trip. The car really consumes very little when driving softly. In Sweden the supercharging that I’ve done is usually costing below 0,2 euro per kWh which is low compared to all other charging stations here.
One thing you forgot to mention. It is autopilot can't drive without your hands on the wheel for longer than 1-2min
Nenad Dimitrijević well I think I did mention it actually when I engage it and demonstrate it in the video... and the time span is actually much shorter than 1-2 min. It’s closer to 20-30 seconds I would say.
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I’m curious to know how far the trip was and how much you paid for all the charges....??
Gary Stremmelaar The trip was in total about 6200 kilometers or 3852 miles including the return trip to Stockholm. Fortunately it didn't cost me anything because I had used a referral code when I ordered my car which gave me six months of free charging at superchargers. Are you familiar with the referral code system Tesla is using? If I had had to pay for it i reckon it would have cost me less than 300 euro, maybe even less, since my experience with the superchargers is that they are really cheap, at least in Sweden.
BRA👍 Good video 👍 mer sånt
How many kilometers can you go, when driving 140-150km/h?
Or let’s say average 125-130 km/h?
@@johnmaynard5949 oh, that's a good question... I would say it depends a lot on the temperature outside but if it was like on this trip I think you would be able to drive around 400 km on one charge quite easily. Carwow recently did a test in the UK driving as far as they could but starting out with I think 95% state of charge but it was only 7 degrees celsius when they started and just 3 degrees when they finished (close to freezing point) and they did over 400 km and I think they probably drove around 120 km/h. My experience is that if you go quicker than that, let's say 140-150, the car starts consuming much more. If you really want to go far on one charge you should keep it at around 90-100. But my main point is really that it may actually be better to drive fast and only charge to around 85% SOC (state of charge) and then fill it up again when at around 10-15%.
Is the ferry free for electric cars?
I think if the ferries are electric then they don't charge for the electric cars.
The thing is: I have a volvo v60 T6 with 320 hp. At the free or highway i drive, normally at 150km/h. At that speed the range is around 500 km. No Tesla has that range at that speed. I do, at least a trip of 600 km to times a week, on the free way. Which means that I onde have to stop once, for 5 minutes to fill my car with gasoline. With the Tesla I would have to stop, at least for 2 times on a supercharger, for 20 or 30 minutes each time. So, I believe that one day electric cars will be a solution. But not just yet.
Rogerio Gomes Osório No, it’s a misconception that you would need to stop “at least 2 times” - you would only need to stop once just like in the Volvo. (Going steady in 150 km/h for 300 km on one charge is no problem for the Model 3) You may be able to fill up the Volvo in just 5 min assuming there are no lines with cars waiting or when paying, that you or your traveling companions don’t need to use the restrooms or wishes to buy coffee or snacks. Assuming you don’t have a gas station as a neighbor you would have to start your journey in the Volvo without a full tank which means you may actually have to fill it up twice. In the Tesla you always leave home with a full tank if you want. You will have to take a break for coffee, that much is true. When I’ve driven my normal cars 600 km I’ve always stopped for coffee or lunch anyway to make the trip comfortable and enjoyable, only now I don’t need to move the car to do so after having filled it up. If you count in the time you save the whole year by not having to go to a gas station (which I had to do once a week at least) there really is no competition. Also you’re comparing a car with almost 200 hp less, if you compared an ICE car with similar power the comparison would be more in Tesla’s favor since those cars consume even more than yours and don’t have bigger gas tanks. And so far we haven’t even mentioned the cost savings and the environment. So sorry Rogerio, go and test a car a few days if you can, see for yourself what it’s like!
Patrik hello. Thanks for your reply. There’s no doubt that electric cars have positive points. But you have to admit that is not the perfect world yet. For exemple, there’s no use to announce that a Tesla model 3 has a range of 530 km with a fully charged battery if, after, you can not fully charge it fully because will damage your battery... However, the main reason why I look at Tesla cars with miss believed is because Tesla cars have really bad reputation on their building and service quality. Miss lined panels, interior noises, wheals that break... just to name a few... which is a shame, because I like who the car looks and many of the things that it offers. But this are problems that I would never find on my Volvo, for exemple... If you wanna know, I think Tesla owners are more forgiven with Tesla’s car problems...
Can I ask you, please:
A) how many km’s can you do going at 150 km/h on the freeway?
B) how much does it cost you to fully charge the battery at a supercharger point?
Thanks.
Keep up with the good work.
@@rogeriogomesosorio4755 Thank you for your questions, I will try to answer as honestly as I can! First of all, I think one has to admit that there are differences, but in my experience almost all for the better. Do you fill up your gasoline/diesel car completely exactly every day? No one does except if you're a taxi driver. Perhaps you go to the gas station once a week or like many of my friends maybe once every two weeks. So most of the time they drive around with a gas tank which is far from full, right? Its the same with an electric car, only you don't even need to think about filling up your car if you can charge at home. The car will always have sufficient "fuel" in the tank for your everyday consumption. So there's no reason for having a fully charged battery exactly every day. Numerous tests online point out that Teslas batteries in fact are extremely good over time and that you may charge them to 90% every day if you wish without losing much capacity. I drive a lot every day and because the range is so good I only need to charge to 50% at night.The quality... I was like you, remember I still drive a BMW as well. When I got to test drive my friends Model S I was completely surprised because it felt so good, the doors, the interior, the way it felt overall. How could this car have such a bad reputation? I checked cars at their showrooms and got the same impression, I thought everything felt great, opening and closing doors, the interior, materials etc. I honestly don't understand what people are talking about when they criticize Teslas quality. And this is a car that's SAFER than all other cars according to both european and american safety testings (Euro NCAP etc). I've had BMWs, Audis, Minis, all new, and I can tell you I certainly have had problems with them. Of course Teslas aren't perfect, no car is. But the rumours ar much exaggerated in my opinion. To anser your two questions: A - I really don't know, but since the car easily can do what it promises if driven normally/legally, my guess is you could go well over 300 km on one charge driving 150 km/h. I drove much faster for long stretches on this trip and I was surprised how efficient it is. However, if its really cold outside, electric cars do lose range if you have the heating on high. I intend to test this in a few weeks in the north of Sweden. B - This depends on in which country you are, but in Sweden the cost is usually about 2 sek/kWh which equals about 0,16 euro (16 cents). So filling up the car if it is completely empty (even if no car usually is, no matter if its an ICE or electric) it means about 12-14 euro. All in all, I must say this car is clearly better in all areas already than any ICE car. OK, if you only need a car to go as far as possible without having to fill it up, then you can buy a diesel car with a small engine and not so much horsepower that can go 1000 plus km, but I believe most people will stop anyway to take a break, to visit restrooms, or whatever. I hope you will experience it first hand somehow, and not listen so much to rumours online.
Did you use the more efficient wheel add on? Or did it not matter because you mentioned you had 6 months free charging so it’s not necessary? I would be very interested to see if electric charging is more expensive where fuel is more expensive because it seems, the more expensive fuel is, the more expensive the electricity is. Maybe that is to do with how poorer countries can have businesses that can exploit the national average wealth. Idk tho seems interesting 🧐
The Legend 27 No, the wheels are the performance 20-inch wheels. They're wider and very low profile and no caps. It seems to me that what really matters is everything else, how you drive of course, how efficient the electric motors are, drag coefficient etc. It would indeed be interesting to compare trips with and without the more efficient wheel caps, I'm sure there must be videos about that on RUclips. As mentioned, we didn't try to save energy by turning off the climate control or not using the sound system, but did try to drive very efficiently certain distances by not accelerating hard or keeping very high speeds for long stretches of time. And then the consumption really drops. However, on some distances I drove at very high speed for hours and instead did more frequent stops at superchargers and only filled the car up to about 80% (only stopping about 10-15 mins) to get going again quickly and keeping the very high speed. That kind of behaviour can actually sometimes make you reach a certain destination faster IF there are enough superchargers along the way. This because the very last 10%, to get to a 100%, takes much longer when charging. And another good thing about that strategy is that it may be better for the battery not charging to a 100%. (Even if they say its no problem as long as you don't leave the car standing still with a 100% charge, I'm not so sure)
Realised I didn't really answer your question in my previous, sorry! I'm not aware of the electricity rates in all the countries we crossed. So no clue really, but in Sweden normally the cost of driving electric is one tenth of driving a gas or diesel car IF you charge your car at home.
Going 170 km/h in Italy???
xordinary may have mixed it up with Germany : )
I bet its highly unusual, Italy is home of all those slow car manufacturers like Ferrari, Maserati and so on.
Good car but problems with rost!!!
Ruud Kraan oh no doesn’t sound good, what happened?
Too bad this is the only video on your channel.
With these European car reviews I always have to open the webpage for km-to-mile conversion so I'll have some idea what they're talking about.
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