iPhone 15 Pro: Filmmaker’s Review
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- Опубликовано: 25 июн 2024
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:30 What is LOG?
0:54 Standard vs. LOG
2:33 Standard video performance
3:22 Creative angles
5:18 ProRes Log Problems Fixed
6:20 USE THIS APP!
7:47 ProRes LT vs. H.265
8:22 Lack of digital sharpness
8:37 Multiple lenses
8:58 Vs. Sony A7SIII
11:31 Vs. Galaxy S23 Ultra
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Honestly.... how INSANE is this log footage?
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It doesn't mean much when you can't use it for longer videos because it will use all the space of your phone very quickly.
@@adamkaminski Watch my section about codecs and the BM app
I’ve ordered a iPhone 15 Pro. Can’t wait, while I’m still having an iPhone X for 5 years now. However, the first two pictures you are comparing the pro res log with the normal photo, I think the colors of the sky looks much better/more realist (blue) on the normal picture. Honestly, nice review though 👌🏼
Apple has won me back after 10 years of Android with this. It's insane to know that the hardware hasn't changed, they've just given the option to bypass the awful processing (sometimes it's good but almost always overdone) and that this was technically possible all along. They should just change the standard video mode, or at least a "natural" option in the camera app to Apple log with a baked in rec.709 lut (or even a selection of luts) without the processing and then made into a regular size video file.
I believe that Apple will give us that choice (natural option with H.265) with the next iPhone. Unfortunately, knowing Apple, it won't come to previous models.
@@mrlightwriterprobably on iPhone 20 for 2 decade anniversary. Same with 8k sensor just for action mode and better handling of details and making the file small and 4k only.
Good stuff man, really enjoyed the comparisons and info presented! Keep killing it Tom!🤟🏼🔥
Cheers bruh 👊🏻👊🏻
Fantastic comparison!!
in my opinion the standard should be graded too for the right comparison!
With my old 13 pro max I used to decrease brightness and contrast, adjust the white balance and saturation and the result was a lot better than the straight out standard video!
I would say closer to log graded than standard that I've seen in this video!
Absolutely amazing video. You must have put so much work into it! The most interesting thing for me is the h265 trick, that looks really awesome. Thanks a lot!
Thanks so much man! Really glad you enjoyed it 🙌🏻
@@ItsTomRich Anyway to grade it in Davncin Resolve if I shoot it in H.265 log? It only decoded audio for me.
Great point with the skin tones. The transition from the light and dark parts of your skin was actually dramatically better on the Sony. Such a good creative tool for film makers and documentarians.
Log is not a color space...a color profile includes a transfer function (like SLog3) + a color space (Sony uses S-Gamut). The log portion is controlling the gamma curve (which is a curve because its defined by a logarithmic function), which records the brightness information, which is why it's related to Dynamic Range (the brightest and darkest parts of the captured image). It is basically a way of compressing that luminance information.
Apple Log is using the Rec.2020 Color Space combined with their own Transfer Function. The image looks "flat" and "washed out" because it is compressing the tonal range of the scene into the limited bit-depth of the video file in a specific, reversible way. It's basically just encoding and decoding.
tldr - log affects luminance (brightness), color space affects chrominance (color).
Most of the people on here have zero idea of log format and it’s intentional soft look to make it film like.
please drop a video on how you colourgrade your footage!! and if you have any luts
nice vid, you should do a video rigging up the iphone 15 pro using shiftcam lenses, nd,mist filters, additional storage...
Amazing. did you grade with a lut?
PERFECT 👍👍👍
Hey Tom, I have been meaning to buy Fuji X-S20. As a beginner I mainly depend on what experts like you think about the new cameras (X-S20 and a6700). I see your videos regularly and I trust your review. Will you be able to make a video comparing different specs of both the cameras? I am pretty sure my confusion will be cleared after watching your video since I trust your opinon.
Cheers for your work 😀
Wow amazing. I love the S23 Ultra's video but the video on iPhone in Pro Res Log looks much better. This just shows that more resolution does not necessarily mean overall better video quality. Great work!!!
Yep you dont need the fancy 8k thing, and you only need is a bad-ass quality ProRes LOG
I like this phone. Its like best phone for being proffesional backup camera
Any thoughts on manually grading LOG footage on the iPhone in the native Photos app? If you’re really running and gunning it could be really handy to grade one clip and then copy/paste other clips with the grade…
There is copy edit in phitos app and paste
I really like the apple iphone 15 pro max but im so in love wiht my s23 ultra its been so good to me i think ima just wait to see wut the s24 ultra will bring ❤
Great information thank you! Could you also suggest a good app/software to use for colour grading a pro res video ?
I use Final Cut Pro! Resolve is also very popular
@@ItsTomRich thank you for the reply ! Will try it out on my iPhone 15
Found your video while searching for reviews about LOG. Excellent quality and informative! Subscribed 🎉 My question, would you recommend the 15 Pro or the 15 Pro Max? Is it worth the extra $$ for the 5x lens + better battery for the Pro Max for photography and videography?
Thanks for the nice comment glad you found it interesting :)
Personally I actually find the 3X more useful than the 5X… but I think it comes down to preference and what you like to shoot more. I also have heard the battery is not that much better on the PM
Damn - That is actually serious
Hey Tom, just watched a couple of your videos on the new iPhones and am wondering if you have advice on choosing between the Pro and Pro Max. My main concern is missing out on the 5x zoom, but I like the smaller form factor of the regular Pro.
Personally I went for the 3X since I actually find it a more versatile focal length :)
8:48 🖤
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Amazing comparison video! Did you use any ND filter to shoot those scenes? If yes, what filter did you use? Any recommendations?
No ND as wanted to keep things as fair as possible :)
@@ItsTomRich I tried mine, without ND filter, my footage is all blown out unless I dialed up the shutter speed. But that's not ideal for filmmaking as I wanted to keep it at 24fps. How did you control the exposure?
Awesome! So this is all in camera? You didnt have an SSD connected? I need a tutorial on how to grade ProRes footage when I get the 15 Pro Max. I wasn't aware you needed to get it into REC709 first.
No SSD attached at all :)
I have a problem with the iPhone video camera; it is very good but I notice a downside, my dog shows it far too white, any idea how to solve that or is there little you can do about it? It kind of ruins my videos, way too white.
3:56 I am looking at the weather outside your window. It's so bleak ! Can you grade that into looking sunny ? Have had my 15 pro max for less than a week and I love that I now have log on my smartphone too. Log isn't new to me. Have been using it for 4+ years thanks to my fantastic Lumix S1 but it's great to have it on my 'B cam' too. Well done, Apple.
I wish I could grade it to be sunny 😂 welcome to the UK
The log format on iphone it's just INSANE! But did you record in the expert raw app on s23U? Because it reduces the AI processing, giving a more natural aspect to the video and photos.
I didn’t - but I tested this previously and it didn’t actually reduce it nearly as much as people said? I got really mixed results :(
@@ItsTomRich you're an awesome content creator! I was searching more contents and I've found some people arguing that a third part app like motioncam that take the s23U cameras to the next level. If you could check it out, it'd be awesome! I don't have 10% of your knowledge and your potential to compare it.. hahahahahahah
You didn't mention what lens you are using on your a7siii which is relevant
You're the only person who showed that you can shoot HEVC with the LOG profile.
🙏🙏
I would still argue that the Sony Xperia 1 series rivals the iPhone and any other smartphone in video when we're talking about log amd editing. And still one of the few phones that shoot 4k120fps from all the rear lenses.
Increasing camera photos to 24mp output from 12mp is a big change from only 12mp of last year’s 14
Hello Tom! Excellent video! I saw that you also have the S23 Ultra and would like to see a raw footage fight between it and the iPhone. Yes, the S23 also shoots in RAW, directly on the SSD, with support for all lenses, using the MotionCam app :)
So far I haven't found any comparison between these two features :/
I will do my best to compare 🙏
@@ItsTomRich can't wait!
Log on s23 ultra? Which app films to ssd
@@PatrickHobley motioncam pro. The workflow on the other hand is quite difficult, I recommend watching some tutorials and using the free version before buying the pro version.
@nicolasandrade1185 can get apk for the pro version. Any tutorials?
The Google Pixel 8 Pro's 'video boost' looks very interesting
You should compare with pro mode on Samsung for less sharpening
Would love to see a Sony Xperia 1V or 5V in a photographer or filmmaker review.
I’ve been trying for ages to get my hands on one but they’re a bit spenny 🥲
does s23 have pro log?
Subscribed ! Question(s). Can a 1tb iPhone 15 bypass the need to film with an SSD on the camera body and just off load the 1TB to the SSD when it’s full? And then you’d just need a 1tb iPhone and an attachment for an ND filter and use Blackmagic and internal LUT? If so I’m getting one today!
Probably yes - you don’t need an SSD though if you shoot in alternative codecs supplied by the BM app
@@ItsTomRich so ssd just to offload for editing
Is there a way to setup shortscuts to autograde the log footage in the photos app?
Dont think so haha you can’t really auto grade footage haha
You can apply color changes and mass edit the changes to other videos in photos. There was a shortcut that autoconverted all raw photos to HEIC for the 14pros. There must be a way to mass auto edit color, even if its not a pintpoint grade @@ItsTomRich
How was the battery life when filming with ProRES?
Actually pretty good tbf. I imagine this would go down shooting to SSD though
Does the Blackmagic app allow to record in prores log without using an external SSD?
Yes correct
@@ItsTomRich thanks, great video!
Just imagine Tom - all Sony tones and vibe in iPhone..
It’s not that far off 🤣
Maybe a stupid question. What app do you use to apply theLUT?
Final Cut Pro X
how about song sony Xperia
Hi, Does iPhone 15pro has 3xzooming in cinematic mode ??
No only 1X and 2x
Hey man, could you possibly give MotionCam on android a try? It can make almost any android shoot RAW video on all lenses, Pixels and Samsungs are especially well supported. Would love to see it compared with Apple's Prores, I think it could give it a real run for it's money! Love your vids :)
DNG workflows can enable the quality but they are a huge pain in both playback/render and also storage. Even ProRes 422 HQ is massive and a little cumbersome but it still plays back and renders a lot easier than DNG does and many times easier to work with. I once set out to shoot on CinemaDNG for the uncompressed quality but it's super impractical. You'd be lucky to get 1/2 an hour of shooting on 1TB drive/phone
422 LT / H.265 in the BMD app is where the magic is on the iPhone IMO. Hopefully it spurs on the Android market leaders to develop similar
Any overheating issue have or not
None for me- think it’s more the pro max
waiting here for the pixal one
It’s coming :)
brother how is the battery backup of pro ?
Sorry dude what do you mean
I wish there was a way to get rid of those little lens flares.
Agreed 😩
they add character 😃
That is exactly the reason I sold my Samsung Galaxy Ultra just a few months of using it, Samsung just can't do videos well.
If you are in to video recording, why buy a Samsung in the first place?.
Because it advertised video recording capabilities? @@neilmcguinness4422
Can you "correct" and "grade" the Apple ProRes LOG all on the iPhone 15 Pro itself or have it do it automatically? And if so, how?
That’s a great question actually. You can do it on Final Cut Pro on the iPad but I’m not sure about on the phone itself. I’ll have a look
Give it a year or two and you will be able to grade it straight from the iPhone and add LUTs Im sure.
im about to finance a locked iPhone 15 just for the camera..
You get a professional workflow from iphone and compare with a newbie workflow on Samsung.. why don't you compare with raw video on android?
Impressive, and as an iPhone 15 Pro Max owner (Titanium-Blue) owner I’m happy with my purchase. I agree on all fronts, but I have to give credit where credit is due.
@12:14 you show a comparison of the iPhone 15 Pro (Max?) & Galaxy S23 Ultra. Unless the naming of the footage was a mistake, I prefer the S23’s result as it looks more professional.
Yeah, was this mislabeled? I was thinking the same thing.
hmm, seems just make it look warmer? isn’t it same as changing the WB to get the same result?? 🤔
Nah not really that’s just my preference for editing, you could just as easily tone it back
Is it the 15 pro max?
No standard pro
I don’t see the average consumer spending all this time editing their videos.
Ez a log profile már évekkel ezelőtt volt Androidra Filmic Pro alkalmazásban.Nem egy nagy áttörés.😂😂😂
iPhone has had that for years too, but it’s way off an actual LOG profile
If you use an iPhone and call yourself a “filmmaker”.. I think that’s the most pathetic thing ever. Just my honest take.
You can tell he hasn't used a Sony xperia. Or raw in Samsung. Apple marketing is Amazing
Apple users are so funny. You dont even need to go raw. Mcpro24fps would beat that easily
Nah.. I like the S23U's video more, it gives a cinematic vibes unlike ip15pm, for me it's kind of over exposed a little.
Interesting!
Its so funny to see iphone users going crazy with things that we already have on android. Make a comparison between the apple prores log and the s23 using the mcpro24fps in the highest settings😂. Welcome to 2019 apple users
You are a bias apple guy
Hate me, but the normal image on the left (at round 2:00) looks better to me.
nice video
Thanks dude 🙌🏻
Nah, just people keep hyping it, still looks like phone quality, all that big storage for somewhat better looking yet only able to do it in daylight, all the hype make normal non techie people think shot in it will make it can replace dedicated high end camera completely, a real camera in the normal video file with log which will produce normal file size yet still can grade and looks actually good and cinematic, it haven't able to replace dedicated camera, a lot people use iPhone to film to show its capability for views and hypes and not actually use it to film a movie, it only replace or just an actual reliable option when people and film industry actually use it film and not to prove it can do it as well, standard iPhone is good enough, spend the extra money on a dedicated camera and you will get a lot better image quality and actually learn photography and videography, all these hypes filling people to spend so much on the best and newest iPhone each year just for the slight improvement, your age still ticking and aging, get a dedicated camera and use the phone for long rather than brainwash to just to fund them to build real capable smartphone camera which still going to years to come and you wasted your younger age on smartphone quality photo and video and not just record your life on already available dedicated camera quality
so much wrong in this take
let em sleep on it@@adamherman5859
Very true, you have been able to shoot footage like this for YEARS either with dedicated camera or the LG V30 which shot in CineLOG almost 7 years ago but "influencers" didn't make a video on that phone because they dont actually care
@@adamherman5859There is only truth, you have been able to shoot log on Smartphones for almost decade now but "creators" only cared once the iPhone got it
@CallMeRabbitzUSVI yeah man, influencers and RUclipsrs need income and get more of them by review and talk about the latest hyped device but it will result in some people get something unnecessary just to stay trendy and to show off and not to appreciate the technology, I hope Khaby Lame or other people can make a video to show influencers so excited to take high quality image quality content on phone and add grip and so on to make the phone as big as a dedicated camera to able to achieve a bit closer to what dedicated camera can do, and then Khaby Lame or others take out an older dedicated camera and show it already able to achieve that and better and act like people forgot or know its existence
2:00 pro res log actually looks shit in comparison.
Are you watching in 4k? Cos think it looks about 3X as good if you ask me.
This is the reason Apple puts sharpening on their standard video, because the general public want a video that looks sharp when viewed on a smartphone, in reality, a softer image that is more easily manipulated is far superior
@ItsTomRich Colours are off. Sharpness is better but still a bit to much. Also the green dots makes it still useless for photos and video. Let's hope they fix that on the 16th, probably not.
Hdr and the sharpness from the original settings are absolutely horrid. Samsung is even worse, and it getting worse every year.
Graded log vid looks better. Looks filmic.
99.9% of iPhone users will not be using this feature, much less need it currently. 1 Minute of 4K footage is about 6 GB, not only is that a lot but the worse issue is getting it off the phone. You're going to spend a good 45min to an hour trying to get off 15 minutes of footage to edit. For average users, just not practical.🙂
Why the fuck would it take an hour to get footage off a usb 3.2 port???
Did you see my solution about shooting in H.265?
Only a small percentage of people will use the log and 460 ect, record straight to SSD as much quicker, only the pro max has the faster data transfer 😎
pro 15 has worse camera than pro 14. take a shot zoom in and see.
Lol
I think I'm the first viewer
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