Breaking All The Rules In The P-51H (War Thunder)
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![War Thunder: P-51H-5-NA Mustang [6.3 Revisit!]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/zHyIrR2ZHW8/mqdefault.jpg)
"Arados are friends, not food"
Every allied fighter: BUT THEY TASTE SO GOOOD
*cries in lincoln as I get strafed by arado snd blow up on a single hit*
Yeah..
Romulan warships hesitating whether to bombard Khitomer or not, 2346 colorized
Yes they're friends until they load bombs and bomb u when ur reloading
Smigol time outfucking every allied player with the arado: The prey hunting the hunter.
Arado's deserve death in air RB to atone for their Ground RB sins.
Feels weird seeing a P51 without it's chrome camo xD
ikr
U say my skin is bad xD
The H-5 looks weird to me in general it just doesn't look like a P51, it looks like a different plane based on the P51.
It also felt weird when the color changed on the tiger 2 h
Is it chrome camo or is it unpainted? I've always wondered
Remember kids, to win in Air RB, you must have the higher ground and assert your freedom dominance at the enemy
Basically you gotta be obi Wan consistently
Too bad that axis fighters have almost twice the climb rate of any US plane except the P-51H(which has to fight jets almost every match which destroys that rule completely)
@@jakobc.2558 just do some side climbing, that's how axis players manage to get above spitfires.
@@FunkyEspelhoCat Does sidclimbing make me climb faster? No it doesnt and if the axis players also sideclimb (there is always that one guy with a brain who unlike every other axis player has a brain) you still have no hope
@@kerkize8907 It's cliche because it works, I always use side climbing when i'm playing with fw 190s and p47s, and although i'm never above all enemies, I don't need to worry too much about p47s/190s/109s toying with me using BnZ.
-new engine
-lighter and (slightly) different airframe
-different wing design
Small list but because of (insert aerodynamic maths) the plane is much better than the D variant. Also side note, the H variant never saw much combat at all. WW2 was over and when the Korean war started the D variant was much more numerous and thus while worse it was the type used instead.
and I think p-51-k is just p-51-d strapped with p-51-h's engine
The P-51H also had a 50 gallon fuel tank oriented vertically behind the seat and the fuselage was lengthened 13 inches to help avoid the center of gravity issues experienced in earlier models. The H was about 1,000 lbs lighter than the D model.
No parts were interchangeable between the D and H and parts were not readily available for the H . This is why it wasnt used in Korea in any capacity and parts for the H were not readily available
@@ssd21345 I believe the P51 K is rather a D with a different prop
@@terryrodgers7001 it's not necessary to have two guys yell at me
I love it when you manage to bait the entire enemy team to deck level but yet your team refuses to help you.
I had an F84 ignore my bait and ground pound. He became the bait but eventually we became overran because of morons who ignore air targets or helping a team member out.
Isn't that any game above 4.0?
@Genaro Scala secure your research points and have enough money to repair and gain or keep dying by the germans?
@Genaro Scala Groundpounding is great for getting through really bad stock grinds, but yea helping teammates should always come first. It's really annoying when people just disregard that.
The p 51h is has a stronger engine even with the post war tune robing it of some power, but mainly is much lighter. I also believe it has further improve drag as well.
Its almost another plane.
It’s lighter for sure ....
P51h regular starting mass : 4310 to max 5217kg
Bf109 k4 regular starting mass: 2115kg to max 3.320kg....
Yeah the 109 is much heavier than the p51
@@lucifer_1073 He was talking about compared to p51 d
Happy to be here before 25k
Btw the p51h had a more power 1650-9 merlins engine, lighter airframe, longer fuselage, longer tailfin and a more streamlined radiator than the p51 d models, that's the main reason for it's beast performance.
"i dont want to put out my flap because i wanna save energy"
"put out the flap" XDD
Yooo I passed all my finals
Well Done!!!
Ayye same 😎 twinsies 😁
@@acecarpenter502 thanksss
@@Spitflyer haha ;)
I wach vids: People wreck others in Bnz
I play: Everyone dodges by BnZ strike and eventually a guy manages to catch me.
(Propably I'm doing sg wrong but still annoys me)
Haha i feel. My aim just aint there no matter how hard i try
War Thunder curse.
"I think it is better then the Regiani"
Yeah it better be the better plane cus the P-51H sits at 6.3 while the RE.2005 is at 5.3.
He means better compared to its br
P51h is more fun when you get in a game with me262s since almost no one knows how to play them and always try to turn fighting
I recently unlocked this plane and have been going up against jets for the first time and I swear I did not expect the performance this thing out out
4:19 "I am not using my flaps", USES FLAPS.
Lol
that Ash bit is truly wholesome :')
4:45 calls diving really stupid and risky
* 15 seconds later- diving
Spit seems to me like a guy who turns on the recorder and then starts talking out of his arse tbh
@@Ryukushinn the title...
"K4 is fat and heavy" it just has a weight of 2.6 tons - a griffon Spitfire is 1 whole ton heavier so the H has actually twice the weight of a 109 K4 - no offense just a little correction
I'm referring to how it feels to fly
The K-4 has an takeoff weight of 3,7 tons in War Thunder and is about 400 kg heavier than the G-2trop.
So yes the K-4 is heavy, probably the heaviest of all Bf-109's.
@@martijn9568 Yeah because war Thunder is actually not that historical correct - the K4 is bad at low speeds because of it's Propeller - below 250 km/h It can just use 70% of the actual horsepower provided from the engine.
@Vicious Unpolite Games how does a K/D have to do with anything? There's more to the game than just killing other planes
@@bluefox9436 Gaijen won't model half the flaws of the 109. In fact I do bleieve they cheat for axis. You know having to set an RE on fire 4 times to kill it.
I still like Ki-84 more, good speed, turn rate and with the 30mm cannnon it's awsome.
Devs- gives America and Russia supersonic 50's jets
English electric lighting- am i a joke to you?
It's a 60s-70s jet. But then, so is the phantom, and almost the mig. So, yeah something's not right there.
@@commodorejones8044 yea, it seems that the devs just don't like the british
Dev's also like to just troll usa whenever possible. Bad flight models and stats, gives other countries better versions of our own vehicles. And give other countries better aim 9 missiles.
P51 H was an new plane with similar configuration and accessories. Lighter by about 900Lbs than D Mustang. Had Better Taller Tail, Wings, Engine that operated at 90 inches MP and used WM. Significant improvement over the D Mustang. Future H -Mustangs would have had more power and refinements, including a better Cylinder Head. It as fast as the larger engine Griffon Spitfire. BY1945 many Super Prop Fighter s were approaching and exceeding 500mph in level flight and approaching 6000 ft/min climb rates. Next upgrade would have been a Griffon in the Mustang with contrra-rotatating prop.. Pushing the limits of the early jets.
Love the p51! All of em. This one especially because in an uptier the enemies don’t climb ad at or a at top br it climbs just as well or better than the rest. Breath of fresh air each game.
Before and after the nerf I still have people challenging my man hood in my terf at high altitudes how dare they don't they know better
what a nice person you are.. being nice to an enemy youtuber. and you even put a link for his youtube on the description..
He's a really nice bloke. Definitely deserves it
I had heard a while back that the Cannon Cat was the best prop, but this too is interesting
It was until they nerfed the engine
The p51H was a postwar version of the p51H that was considerably lightened, giving it a higher top speed, altitude, and range, kinda badass. They never saw combat in Korea though sadly.
I've been playing alot of the k4 lately. Axis teams lose matches like crazy at 5.7 - 6.7 in my experience. They swarm bombers, climb in a straight line right off the runway, and flock to easy targets dropping all their altitude like in this video. Tip for Allied players have 3/4 people side climb to 7/7.5 km and work your way down, your team will win matches against Axis more often than not.
You must be playing a different server.
@@ltankhsd US server only
@@lukefrombk Strange, that is not my experience. Then again I wonder if they have a different matchmaker for different people based on player rank and skill level.
6.0 and around there is a very fun BR. There are so many good fighters, the p51H, the Bearcat, the ta152, the G56, griffon spits, Japanese fighters etc.
*When 5.3 gets uptiered to 6.3*
5.3: (Sees the swarm of P-51H's and F8F-1B's) Oh shit oh fuck. I'mma just hold down the J key for 3 seconds.
The same story with D5s and D30s, without the engine injection you don't climb too fast, don't have speed advantage or turn advantage over 109s until you are spaded. But once you are the plane just turns around and suddenly becomes very capable
*Enemy gets killed by spitflyer*
Yes, this is what I've been born for. This is what I've been waiting for, this is what's all about.
8:30 it isn‘t like that all the time. I‘ve tested with a friend of mine the turn times of the k4,d30 and h and the result was that the k4 outturns the d30 and h at around 500km/h ias and wins most of the times dogfights at low to very low speeds, if you use the k4‘s flaps to the absolute limit, but above 500km/h ias the d30 and h outturn the k4 most of the time. You need to use the k4‘s flaps to the absolute limit to succeed. Note that the k4 used a constant of 20min of fuel while the d30 and h used their minimum of fuel
This is because Gaijen won't model the 109's shitty deflection rate. In fact it should actually be one of the shittier turners.
What's even funnier when you break the rules in a P-51 is when the enemy team can't shoot for shit. You're swooping and dodging and rolling around the sky, three 109s and a 190 up your ass and shots flying past you.
From what I've tested the only prop that can catch P51H in a straight line on the deck is A2D-1 Skyshark - American premium turboprop attacker, which is entirely in a league of it's own.
-new engine
-lighter, more aerodynamic air-frame
-different wing design
-tighter engine cowling, less drag
-"paddle" propeller blades for higher acceleration at low speeds, w/ better energy retention when turning (probably the most important aspect of the plane)
- taller vertical stabilizer
-more streamlined radiator, less drag
iirc only about 200 P-51Hs were built, and did not see service in WW2, as it entered production too late, very few P-51Hs exist today, but some are flight worthy
Anyone else enjoying the in-game chat in this match? 😂
yeah the bomber tho, big oof to his plans
Congrats on 25k love the content so glad i found the channel
hey spit, i’ve been watching ur videos for ages, i don’t play war thunder anymore but still love the content. congrats on 25k when you hit it and thanks for the great videos
Differences between D and H:
- taller/bigger rudder
- thicker wings
- better engine
- revised fuselage (looks less box-y like the D model and edges are rounded)
I agree let the jet games/players be intimidated and kept in a state of fear and dread with the p51h at 6.7.
(obviously this is sarcasm)
speed is life. altitude is life insurance. not my words, I forgot who, but they're wise.
Wow. I'm amazed really. Great piloting!!!
I think the hispanos work fine I never had a problem with them I get nice and close to my enemies and pull the trigger and they die
They're actually bugged though
8:46
The 51H used to be 6.7 and it kinda struggled back then though
Yeah funny how people always go "muh undertiered US" while they have abysmal win rates and also never say anything about the BR or air spawn of the Ta-152 H
@@ltankhsd Eh, the Ta-152H wouldn't be up to par at its BR without the airspawn (stuff like the F4U-4B and 47M would wreck it if that were the case). In its current state, it's fine at 5.7 IMO.
As for winrates, I'd say that's more due to the allied teams' unending love for bombers and ground attack aircraft, an aircraft's performance shouldn't be solely decided by winrates.
That being said, I've gotten to experience the 51H at 6.7 and I gotta say, it wasn't that competitive. It's fine at 6.3 as I see it.
Isn't the spitfire mk 24 still at 6.7 tho? Why is that?
FunkyEspelhoCat because people always complain about spitfires being op
@@FunkyEspelhoCat old BR that never got looked at twice I guess? I'm not too well-versed in british planes
I dont get how u dont have mor subs because u vids are really good
Put ash’s yt channel in the desc
I remember my first match in the p51h was when I faced 3 262 a meteor and a bearcat might have been more but I can’t remember
hey spit!
I was wondering, could you play some sim battles?
it would be rather good to watch that, and some cool kills
You're underrated my dude
Its me the only one that things that mustang looks like a cobra
Congrats for the 25k. Nice job, keep it up
I have a nice story lol i was with my p63, i was near enemy af then i saw i dont remember but i think it was a b109 and we started fighting (due to our bad aim we didnt even make a hit lol) till we ran out of ammo, we just decided to turn on the smoke and we started flying together, i really enjoyed it untill one of my teammates zoom and boomed him and set him into fire i was kinda sad but that experience was really nice lol.
I really like this custom skin
Plox make vid on 152 h the (2nd?) Best 5.7 prop
For got to put him in the description
Like to remind?
The P51H is 6.3 because of it's limited Water injection, also, the players you were fighting against sucked A$$, that 109 could have getting killed by anyone cus he approached you so bad, you didn't even counter really well either, but still got him, that proofs it.
Congratz on your 25k!
I'm the guy in the AD-4
I kinda like the way you talk in this video. In your older videos your talking was very shamely like you were fearing to talk and having long breaks even between words. But in this video you are really talking pretty straight forward and i like it.
Hey spit i know you like learning new things so i have a comment about it has a thicker wing so it produces more lift thought. That is infact wrong according to thin airfoil theory (you can dwell more into it on google) but basically from a very simple point of view it says that the lift curve slope of any non highly cambered airfoil is 2*pi*alpha(radians). This suggests that the thickness or any other geometric characteristic doesnt have any impact on lift produced which seems a bit bullshit but for the most part 2pialpha is a good rule of thumb slope value. One of the many downfalls of the theory is that it cant predict the stall angle and location. The thickness of the airfoil and many other factors come into play at that part. Its a bit longer to explain but if you want learn more just let me know
Congrats on 25k!
The f82 is very good at dealing with 288s
tbh you sound like a math teacher lecturing
gratz on the 25k mark!
How can I have triple colour smoke on after my plane?
I think it does better against jets than props
What do you think of the gaijin store, do you think it's really necessary in the game?
Yup it’s what keeps updates coming
What’s the beste belt for the 50.cals of my p47d???
People swear by ground targets nowadays but ive had good success with tracers
I've had decent luck with universal lately on late war belts.
everything p47 and after takes tracers.
The landing gear on the P51 not retracting in sync.
Yeah that's the design
HKL_the_ripper
Just kinda not nice
"im not using my flaps"
The P51 in history’s dogfights isn’t the D model... it’s the H.
The p51H never saw service in any war. So either dogfights screwed something up or you are wrong.
@@biggstheman60 I know... it’s just that the fact that the history channel portrays the Mustang as a plane that is better than the Me109 in every way.
While in real life it has some flaws German pilots could exploit. Like the fact it has so many gallons of fuel it can’t climb as well.
However in 1944-45 (where most dogfights episodes with both planes takes place) was a time when most of the skilled Luftwaffe pilots were pretty much dead or captured.
Its good but it can only be playable if it has mixed battle at 6.3. Other than that as you can see in this battle enemy will have less attackers/bombers and you will have less fighters in your team. Its sucks.
bruh i was watching this vid, then i look at the leaderboard on my game and i see you :B
While I dont play this thing as much, I have to say, in the hand of a good player, It is the best prop in the game.
Only fire power is a bit meh for me.... Only if there was a variant with 20mms...
I love your vids and I hope you keep it up they're helpful
its lighter than the D model.
I won a 1v1 against a p-51 with a re 2005. From 9k to bottom
@Squatting Slav it's op until you get a shell in it
@Squatting Slav not the fastest but it maneuvers almost as a spitfire.
The G 55/56 are faster I think.
The Re is harder to control and personally I have a pretty noobye crew and I can't pull a lot of G's constantly without blacking out
How did you get that skin? I’m new to War Thunder and I play on PS4 and can’t find it anywhere .
Christian it’s in one of the Trophy Boxes bro I believe it’s in the Night Vision Box but I am not 100% sure. Try looking at all of them
Raggesmus On PS4 we cant use user made skins but if they are in the Trophy Boxes you can “win” them I know this because I have that exact skin!
Welcome back to Wor Thunda
you make this look so easy, but if I do this I get fucked by everything.
you know vashnire
That's a sick camo
they also got bigger props i believe
damn nice climb rate
I play a lot of the H and I agree it’s a fantastic plane when played correctly. ( 80 percent of players won’t ) The H should stay where it is... the limited WEP holds it back ALOT. I would agree with MAYBE an up tier if they took off the limited WEP. Other than that I enjoyed the video.
Even when it gets up tiered with limited WEP I've still out performed most of the jets at that br, even the R2Y2's before they were nerfed.
Andrew Carpenter if you have a jet pilot that knows what they are doing... it’s going to dunk on the p51 H every time hands down... ESPECIALLY when it runs out of WEP.
P51H F4U4B p51d30 p47d28 and all of the p63s are the things you should go for to defeat axis teams
GL
The skin it feels so wierd on it
I’m surprised i’m not the only one that has that P-51 skin.
Meredith bless thee
the belly radiator got bigger
18K repair cost though...
8:43 is slippery_gypsy listed twice??
love you spit
well if you are in the fastest prop in a game without jets you gotta be op when you play correctly
The P-51H is actually heavier than the Bf 109 K-4.
12:45 Ash007 another youtuber
LOL
Is their a problem with the server? I just re installed the game about 3 times and it keeps saying incompatible version even though everything is up to date
he is to dangerus to be kept alive
You forgot to break two rules, you didnt take max fuel, and you didnt equip any secondary weaponry such as bombs (i cant remember if the P-51H has bombs or rockets, cant be bothered to load up war tinder to check it)
i think its better than the Re.
H-5 at 6.3 - Re.2005 at 5.3
i would hope so...
*make Re.2005 5.7*
Here's a link for an article about the P-51H model: www.mustangsmustangs.net/p-51/variants/p51h
The P-51D also looks much better than the H-model.