Hey guys, we're doing a revisit today, looking at the P-51H again which had its br changed a while back. It was a joy to fly it again. Skin is a creation of Raptorattacker, who is a long time sub of mine. He wanted to give something back. And this skin was a great gift. You can find his work on WT live. Dont forget to like, comment and subscribe for more. Have a great day! :)
Dont know if anyone gives a shit but if you're bored like me atm then you can watch all the latest movies on InstaFlixxer. I've been binge watching with my gf for the last days :)
i used to be there once as well mate, in my first 10 months on wt, old my old pc (a toaster!), i was running only barely better then a 1 to 1 k/d ratio. and then i bought a new pc. I went to 4 to 1 k/d ratio immidiately. And kept improving from there on out. You can do the same.
@@jengar6258 A 1:1 k/d ratio on a toaster is pretty good skills :) but, yes, I persevere and an upgrade from my present heap might be worthwhile. Cheers for the reply. All the best young man.
@PBJMan There is almost no difference between B and C. In fact it´s mark of place were the plane was build....B models were made in California while C models were made in Dallas.
Request for Gaijin to let the P-47M to be run at 76” boost. It was the Eigth Air Force’s decision to approve the P-47M for operation at 76” boost, and it worked.
The only problems with this plane is the queue times are insane, and if you do get a match, half the time your team will die within 5 minutes and you're left to 1 vs the rest of the enemy team which consists of a mix of jets and props so you'll be forced down and shot down eventually
sure, she's great, not so much against jets though. Still good, but not stellar with the short windows of firing on jets. Not enough stopping power when you do get a chance. And you dont get too many chances, if the jet pilot knows what he's doing.
@Jengar I personally love this plane I've used so many times in Squadron battles it's so reliable the only Mustang that I'm missing is the d-10 Daddy's girl Mustang hopefully that comes out for purchase I will gladly buy it rock on with these reviews man good shit.
Not really as since when is a plane equal to the spitfire mk 24 deserve a lower br than the mk 24? Honestly people who have flown the plane and know how to use American planes can tell this is a 6.7br plane.
@@jengar6258 thank im trying out the corsair f4u b and that plane stock is give me alot trouble any recommendations I well love to see a video on it because now is in br 6.0 and I kind hard in that br
it's technically less than that, but let me tell you, it makes more sense for it to have that than it would for the fucking B-29 to have a repair cost of that, much less its current one
This is a 6.7br plane, it's equal to the spitfire mk 24 and can easily defeat early jets like the me 262. Reason it's still at 6.3 is cause people get it and play it assuming it's invincible and get killed easily by doing stuff that you shouldnt do in an American plane.
@@Gurubashy Do u have even a bf109 k4? Cause it sounds like u don't, as k4 only advantage over the p51H is vertical manuvers. While p51H can out climb a k4 with WEP, can outturn it, out roll it and out gun it as well. 50cals are still over preforming as they snipe you from 1.5km away, and a damaged k4 is a dead k4 as any damage on a k4 turns it into a potato, while damage on the p51H still let's u be able to fight. Only the ta 152 h1 can out turn the p51H but needs takeoff flaps to do so. You also started to complain about the ju 882 bomber saying only 2-3 can destroy the af, my how wrong you are as it would need at least 5 of them to destroy the af, but apparently it's fair when 3 b29s can destroy the af. Also gaijin removed the German bomber limit, but not to any other nation. Huh I wonder if that's such a huge disadvantage as more than half the team are in bombers, they should have done the same to the American side. I will also mention how you make the ta 152 h1 look like a climbing good when it literally isnt. It has the worse climb rate of any 5.7br fighter and interceptor, why do you think it has an airspawn, because it's climb is that bad and possibly worse than a p47. Idk if you rely on the stat card cause if you do, the info on it is wrong and lies about climb rate and turn rate. Honestly your whole post had nothing true, and was obviously a freeaboo post as literally saying a 5.3 better than a 6.3 is honestly ridiculous. People who have played the p51H and know how to use them will agree this plane is underteired at 6.3, and should be 6.7 as it's equal to the spitfire mk24. To conclude my rant let's look at all the planes America has that is underteired: all p51D varients, f4u 1a, p47d 28 ( shouldn't be a lower br than the p47N), f4u 4, f82, and f4u umsc
@@dagreenbolt9169 That's not true, P47N is a slightly better plane, and should be 0.3 higher than D28. Also Germans have some massively undertiered planes such as K4 (it's too good to face 4.3, also it's better overall than a Ta-152), 109 F4, G2, BF 110 C-4, BV 234, Hitlerbolt, Ju 288 C, He 122 A0, He 100 @Felix Shen P-51H is turning better than Ta on higher speeds, and P47N is a high altitude fighter, once you take it into higher altitudes it shines, and can easilly kill every prop in game. It has decent climb rate just focus more on a speed, than on angle of climbing.
Hard to believe that the best fighter of the Second World War was a slow, almost unflyable chunk of shit prior to the change to the license built Packard Merlin engine
I see I'm responding to this late, but that simply isn't true. The Allison engine was an extremely capable engine and it still made the P51 go about 450 mph at sea level (I forget the exact numbers in the manual), which is equal to if not faster than the Merlin. Calling the P51 anything remotely close "unflyable" without the Merlin is just a total insult to it's development with North American and NACA. The Merlin simply unlocked the P51s ability to have both good high-altitude performance and good range, perfect for bomber escort missions. Other than that, the Allison P51 likely would have been limited to below 15,000ft, where it would still perform favorably to 109s and 190s. So yes, the P51 does owe it's reputation to the Merlin for allowing it to fill the bomber escort role (which without simply would've been just another patrol fighter), but the Allison P51 was no slouch by ANY measure and was already an incredible aircraft. So PLEASE, do not fall into the trap of thinking the P51 was a bad plane without the Merlin. That's a misconception I see everywhere whenever a P51 is involved. Greg's Airplanes and Automobiles is a great RUclips channel which primarily uses the operating handbooks and official military documents from the period to shed light on topics like WW2 engine performance. He has a great video about the Allison P51 which I would highly recommend. If the plane was actually a piece is sh*t and "almost unflyable", then simply changing the engine would never result in the P51 being one of the greatest propeller aircraft ever made. So once again, the Allison and Rolls Royce engines used on the P51 delivered very similar flight data below about 15,000. For anything other than bomber escort, the Allison was more than capable of making the P51 a legendary plane.
Biggest problem - I get into a 1 v 1, and then 'magically' from the spotting mechanic, its 4 v 1. How in the hell can I get the WT spotting mech going in MY favor for a change? Burn GE to max pilot awareness?
@@jengar6258 I just wanna add that this is far by the most powerful of all the P-51 line, excluding the double mustang of course. And pretty expensive to repair too.
Are there any sales coming up in war thunder? Cause i was thinking about spending some money and was very surprised when i saw that they dont have a black friday sale. Is there a christmas sale? If not, i would just buy what i want right now.
late but it depends on the matches as the p47 n15 has the worst climb rate of the p47s so its either a enemies killed everyone once you get to battle or your team killed everyone. with the p51 its easier as it takes less time to climb and has a few tricks up its sleve such as jets underestimating a p51 and tries to turnfight cause they are new to jets
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Hey guys, we're doing a revisit today, looking at the P-51H again which had its br changed a while back. It was a joy to fly it again. Skin is a creation of Raptorattacker, who is a long time sub of mine. He wanted to give something back. And this skin was a great gift. You can find his work on WT live. Dont forget to like, comment and subscribe for more. Have a great day! :)
@Jengar could please do a S.O.4050 Vautour IIA realistic review and possibly a Hunter F.1 revisit?
Dont know if anyone gives a shit but if you're bored like me atm then you can watch all the latest movies on InstaFlixxer. I've been binge watching with my gf for the last days :)
@Cassius Rylan definitely, I have been watching on InstaFlixxer for since november myself :)
Fun fact: Jengar never reviewed any Mig-15 and Mig-17 on realistic (and the Mig-9's are very old)
Jengar: "It was horrendous, terrible time...I had something like 10 deaths and 13 kills."
Me: "Welcome to my everyday life of pain on Air RB....."
i used to be there once as well mate, in my first 10 months on wt, old my old pc (a toaster!), i was running only barely better then a 1 to 1 k/d ratio. and then i bought a new pc. I went to 4 to 1 k/d ratio immidiately. And kept improving from there on out. You can do the same.
@@jengar6258 A 1:1 k/d ratio on a toaster is pretty good skills :) but, yes, I persevere and an upgrade from my present heap might be worthwhile. Cheers for the reply. All the best young man.
ty sir! you definitely should consider it, if its possible for you at this time.
Thank u for doing p 51! I love this plane so much!
you're welcome!
I have nigtmears of 50 cals crazy unrealistic damage like canons and their infinite ammo
It's probably at a more balanced place but I usually fly German 5.3 or 5.7 so I hate seeing it lol
I mean if you are in a 152 it's not that big of a problem but in a K-4 it's spooky
Kaxaber Gurasashvili you must hope the h5 pilot is a noob, else you have a problem indeed
@@maxsuarezmuller7186 or stock but yeah there's nothing you can do
well allies are undertierd usually
Kaxaber Gurasashvili its also darn scary when I’m in a 190 D since it’s ALWAYS higher up than I am
I had enough nightmares of that plane without this video
I get no notifications what so ever so i’m taking my day to watch atleast 8-7 vids
good stuff! beter to activate the notifications though ;)
WT still missing important historical planes like P-51 B/C.
@PBJMan There is almost no difference between B and C. In fact it´s mark of place were the plane was build....B models were made in California while C models were made in Dallas.
Nice flying! Loved that little dogfight at the end. It's a fantastic plane to fly spaded, one of the more capable US planes. A real powerhouse
ty mate, agreed :)
I really like the way you have this particular mustang painted, it looks awesome! :D
Request for Gaijin to let the P-47M to be run at 76” boost. It was the Eigth Air Force’s decision to approve the P-47M for operation at 76” boost, and it worked.
I read through all the USAAF and NACA reports for that btw.
Also, for that, P-47M shall receive the baptism of fire at 6.3 just as this one does.
The only problems with this plane is the queue times are insane, and if you do get a match, half the time your team will die within 5 minutes and you're left to 1 vs the rest of the enemy team which consists of a mix of jets and props so you'll be forced down and shot down eventually
that does happen now and then in the uptiers unfortunately.
I recommended the dornier 335 b2 for a revisit and you finally did it. Now I'm wondering aboythe ki 43 III 4.0 in rb. I love it
Hey do you think you could make a quick vid on this beast again? Thanks!
patch is comming in, rank v sweden needs to be made ;) busy busy.
the p-51h turns fast like spitfire mk 24!
if you know how to fly it, the P-51H is literally the God King of piston engined fighters
sure, she's great, not so much against jets though. Still good, but not stellar with the short windows of firing on jets. Not enough stopping power when you do get a chance. And you dont get too many chances, if the jet pilot knows what he's doing.
@Jengar I personally love this plane I've used so many times in Squadron battles it's so reliable the only Mustang that I'm missing is the d-10 Daddy's girl Mustang hopefully that comes out for purchase I will gladly buy it rock on with these reviews man good shit.
Not really as since when is a plane equal to the spitfire mk 24 deserve a lower br than the mk 24? Honestly people who have flown the plane and know how to use American planes can tell this is a 6.7br plane.
What belt you recommend in this plane I'm almost in jet tier nice video
Groundbelt or stealth. I hear some ppl like the tracer belt.
@@jengar6258 thank im trying out the corsair f4u b and that plane stock is give me alot trouble any recommendations I well love to see a video on it because now is in br 6.0 and I kind hard in that br
Just don't turn.
Stay at, at least, over 200 km/h.
Also, get better, that cough sounds worrying.
Stay over 200 km/h? Thats near the stall speed, if you ever slow down that much in a turn fight then youre just stupid
the best prop imo
Good plane but it's 20,000 SL repair cost is unwarranted.
it's technically less than that, but let me tell you, it makes more sense for it to have that than it would for the fucking B-29 to have a repair cost of that, much less its current one
@@spindash64 "technically less than that"? What does that even mean? And yes. The B29s do have excessively high repair costs.
I've been recently using this plane wondering why I'm going broke...thanks for that...
@@Exquisite_Blue always look at the repair cost.
Happy new year by te way
happy new year Ilan!
This is a 6.7br plane, it's equal to the spitfire mk 24 and can easily defeat early jets like the me 262. Reason it's still at 6.3 is cause people get it and play it assuming it's invincible and get killed easily by doing stuff that you shouldnt do in an American plane.
@@fexilsehn6445 never said it was equal to jets but the plane can easily defeat jets like the mk 24 spitfire
@@Gurubashy Do u have even a bf109 k4? Cause it sounds like u don't, as k4 only advantage over the p51H is vertical manuvers. While p51H can out climb a k4 with WEP, can outturn it, out roll it and out gun it as well. 50cals are still over preforming as they snipe you from 1.5km away, and a damaged k4 is a dead k4 as any damage on a k4 turns it into a potato, while damage on the p51H still let's u be able to fight. Only the ta 152 h1 can out turn the p51H but needs takeoff flaps to do so. You also started to complain about the ju 882 bomber saying only 2-3 can destroy the af, my how wrong you are as it would need at least 5 of them to destroy the af, but apparently it's fair when 3 b29s can destroy the af. Also gaijin removed the German bomber limit, but not to any other nation. Huh I wonder if that's such a huge disadvantage as more than half the team are in bombers, they should have done the same to the American side. I will also mention how you make the ta 152 h1 look like a climbing good when it literally isnt. It has the worse climb rate of any 5.7br fighter and interceptor, why do you think it has an airspawn, because it's climb is that bad and possibly worse than a p47. Idk if you rely on the stat card cause if you do, the info on it is wrong and lies about climb rate and turn rate. Honestly your whole post had nothing true, and was obviously a freeaboo post as literally saying a 5.3 better than a 6.3 is honestly ridiculous. People who have played the p51H and know how to use them will agree this plane is underteired at 6.3, and should be 6.7 as it's equal to the spitfire mk24. To conclude my rant let's look at all the planes America has that is underteired: all p51D varients, f4u 1a, p47d 28 ( shouldn't be a lower br than the p47N), f4u 4, f82, and f4u umsc
@@dagreenbolt9169 That's not true, P47N is a slightly better plane, and should be 0.3 higher than D28.
Also Germans have some massively undertiered planes such as K4 (it's too good to face 4.3, also it's better overall than a Ta-152), 109 F4, G2, BF 110 C-4, BV 234, Hitlerbolt, Ju 288 C, He 122 A0, He 100
@Felix Shen P-51H is turning better than Ta on higher speeds, and P47N is a high altitude fighter, once you take it into higher altitudes it shines, and can easilly kill every prop in game. It has decent climb rate just focus more on a speed, than on angle of climbing.
What are your thoughts on a joystick like the Thrustmaster t16000m? Thanks! :)
no idea mate, i dont own one.
That thing deserves 6.7, its just as good, maybe even better than the Spitfire mk24
I think its fine on 6.3 tbh.
Jengar, could you do a video on the Meteor F Mk.3? Thanks.
Hard to believe that the best fighter of the Second World War was a slow, almost unflyable chunk of shit prior to the change to the license built Packard Merlin engine
indeed! i didnt know that.
that's not actually true. Allison mustangs were still pretty capable at lower altitudes
I see I'm responding to this late, but that simply isn't true. The Allison engine was an extremely capable engine and it still made the P51 go about 450 mph at sea level (I forget the exact numbers in the manual), which is equal to if not faster than the Merlin.
Calling the P51 anything remotely close "unflyable" without the Merlin is just a total insult to it's development with North American and NACA. The Merlin simply unlocked the P51s ability to have both good high-altitude performance and good range, perfect for bomber escort missions. Other than that, the Allison P51 likely would have been limited to below 15,000ft, where it would still perform favorably to 109s and 190s.
So yes, the P51 does owe it's reputation to the Merlin for allowing it to fill the bomber escort role (which without simply would've been just another patrol fighter), but the Allison P51 was no slouch by ANY measure and was already an incredible aircraft.
So PLEASE, do not fall into the trap of thinking the P51 was a bad plane without the Merlin. That's a misconception I see everywhere whenever a P51 is involved.
Greg's Airplanes and Automobiles is a great RUclips channel which primarily uses the operating handbooks and official military documents from the period to shed light on topics like WW2 engine performance. He has a great video about the Allison P51 which I would highly recommend.
If the plane was actually a piece is sh*t and "almost unflyable", then simply changing the engine would never result in the P51 being one of the greatest propeller aircraft ever made.
So once again, the Allison and Rolls Royce engines used on the P51 delivered very similar flight data below about 15,000. For anything other than bomber escort, the Allison was more than capable of making the P51 a legendary plane.
Haha these two videos popped up one after each other for me in the sub box haha.
Try the horten 229:)
its on my to do list.
Biggest problem - I get into a 1 v 1, and then 'magically' from the spotting mechanic, its 4 v 1. How in the hell can I get the WT spotting mech going in MY favor for a change? Burn GE to max pilot awareness?
spotting will help, but looking around and identifying the dots you can see, should be enough.
I know this is hella late but uh. The tracer belts have the highest fire starting value in the game
First battle on this thing I get a full uptier.
noice, thank you MM
@@jengar6258 I just wanna add that this is far by the most powerful of all the P-51 line, excluding the double mustang of course. And pretty expensive to repair too.
Make a review on 20mm hispano mustang.
Does it still have matches against R2Y2s and Arados? They were the main reason I quit using the Mustang H..
oh yeah. You don't even make it to 3000 meters and these planes are already on your tail.
still has that sometimes aye. But gets more downtiers because of the lower br's. Which is good.
@@jengar6258 In that case I should definitely try it out
Okay and where is F4U-5??? Would be the best american prop.
good video bro
I have not played for a long time, it's a new game. which planes are good for a noob in realistic tier 3. P47d 28?
Are there any sales coming up in war thunder? Cause i was thinking about spending some money and was very surprised when i saw that they dont have a black friday sale. Is there a christmas sale? If not, i would just buy what i want right now.
They will have a christmas sale with some special bundles like the last years probably
It took me 5 minutes to reach 5000m that was without the wep all the way
Jengar please play Ki-200 :)
on my to do list!
I keep running into your clan mates lol
are they holding up? :)
@@jengar6258 is that a custom skin? or do u discount thingy like phly daily has? for your markings
jengar what do you think which one is better p47n or p51h?
p-51H
Hahahahah, your accent betrays you! Wel lekkere filmpjes😏
Still haven't flown mine even once yet :/ #oneday
you should :)
Hey jengar do you ever play ground/not planes?
No he doesnt (i think i read a coment where he said that he just doesnt have the time for it but dont quote me on that ;) )
Air is the best.
Depends on preference you know, i like both
I think he doesn't because he doesn't like it, but I'm not sure completely. Take that statement with a grain of salt.
A like and a comment to help the channel.
Can you do the yak 3 groetjes uit limburg
So there is a patch pay to play realistic historical accurate still I'm WT that u must buy if u want the game as it used to be?
unfortunately we have no such thing atm.
Is the stock grind that bad?
Do you play tanks at all?
Between the p51h 5 na and p47n 15 what do think who'd get the most kills ?
late but it depends on the matches as the p47 n15 has the worst climb rate of the p47s so its either a enemies killed everyone once you get to battle or your team killed everyone. with the p51 its easier as it takes less time to climb and has a few tricks up its sleve such as jets underestimating a p51 and tries to turnfight cause they are new to jets
Does the spit mk24 has infinite wep?
yes, but the engine gets hot fast
P51 or P47?
Almost impossible to answer for me. I love both lines, but if i really had to choose I'd go for the mustangs, despite Jug is love, Jug is life!
@@jengar6258 I can't decide because the Mustangs perform well *in their intended role* but P47's are so beautiful to me.
I've watched a minute and forty second ad for you.
Face reveal pls
ty sir, face reveal at 100K
@@jengar6258 Will remmember that ;)
"whitout wep is 596 whitout wep" oopsie
Im still sick, gimme a break! ;)
Why do you get so much more money than i do when getting a kill?
premium account?
6:01
What was that?
That was my wife coughing.
Jengar? You mean GENGAR!!!
sorry I’ll leave
hehe
Don't make more than one turn or you are too slow .. I do best B&Z and shallow slashes