Coming from 5D2 to the RP I have had surprisingly little to complain about. The RP allows for extremely fast content creation with mobile workflows, which seems to be a much overlooked point. It does excellent in the studio and works well for virtually anything except fast action. The small form factor comes with drawbacks on ergonomics and battery life. Mirrorless has its quirks, I mean who decided a default 2 second image review would work well inside a viewfinder? In sum, a very nice camera, the low price let me spend more on glass (replacing EF L with RF L is .. taxing), and it can even do a bit of video.
With the recent price drop of the a7iii, we can now get used a7iii for $1,000 usd or less now. Sad to say but its a bad time to sell your a7iii if you still want $1,200 usd for a used model.
I still have one too... terrible for sports, but the image quality is pretty good (although the sensor lacks dynamic range). Battery range is lacking. HD video (24-60p) with autofocus is excellent (for 8bit content), but not great for 4K or super slo-mo.
There is no better $900 full frame camera for photography. If you want a do everything camera this isn't it. But if you want a $900 full frame camera that can take beautiful pictures in controlled scenarios it's wonderful. It's not a low light beast. It's not a sports camera. But it's amazing as a studio camera or in situations where you have some control (e.g. Using lights or strobes )
Dan I consider that camera, but choose the original R. Since I’ve moved on to Fuji because I grew tired of cost of gear and most importantly I felt Canon didn’t value me as a consumer! Full frame or not there are better options out there!
Fujifilm is doing amazing things right now. I personally own the X100VI and the X2H and they are amazing. I wish they made full frame cameras and Fujifilm is stupid not to release a full frame version of the X100VI given how popular that camera is. Obviously they don't have full frame lenses but they could absolutely make full frame cameras with fixed lenses pretty quickly
I agree, buying a used camera is generally pretty safe. The EOS R is only available used I think but I think prices for that are close to the Canon R8 which I think is a really good camera and will hold value more than the R8 since it's current tech. It's not that the EOS R is bad, but the R8 is so cheap right now, it's a better deal if you're spending over $1k
@@mbismbismb No, but you can use batteries deom the 5d series (5d mkii and later and for those switching, this is amazing. The Eos R is a mini 5d mk iv).
I have been using the rp nearly since it came out. My only complaints are that it cant shoot dark subjects against bright backgrounds. In one instance, I shot a Nigerian girls graduation session at the beach and it absolutely couldn't find her. Second complaint is that it doesn't have 120fps in any resolution. Honestly id even be cool with 720p 120 like in the original R. Other than those to things I'd never upgrade. Aslo battery life and lack of 2 card slots don't bother me because batteries are cheap and I pair the rp with a 5d mkiii for important events
I have it for 4 years and still love it. I use it with the grip you could buy. Sometimes even for wildlife. Have an r7 to. And sometimes i love that slow framerate from the rp.
Just bought 5dmk2 for 250 euros. 1080p raw video with magic lantern. Go and beat that for 250!!! 800 for this ia realy not worth... You can buy an sony alpha something for that. And be way better off! I think the next good camera is r5. But thats completely different category.
I had the 5dm2. Terrible for video. Moire patterns. Just try shooting indoors at wood floor and the grain pattern causes moire. Solved it by putting in a filter behind sensor but pain the in the but. Got the 5dm3 and it had much better video but not near as good as the R8 which can shoot 4k 60 and even 1080 180fps.
@@keithwiebe1787 That sure. I mean if you pay good money you get better stats, 4k 60p and stuff like that. But i am watching all on a laptop of resolution 1360x 1060 or something. I truly dont see a big difference between a C400 that came out recently. And the canon 5dmk2 i bought for 250. Literaly. The video looks the same in the cameras of 10 years ago as it does now. In general! Yes the stats are better. They worked out the colors much better. Also did you upgradr your 5d firmware. I upgraded firmware and there is alot fixed, and it runs very well. If i would look at the images ok a huge 1080 TV screen, then there maybe would be a difference. on a 4k huge TV would see some more difference. How many people you know who actualy own 4k huge tvs ??? Also if you still make your 1080 look good, it will look good on 4k TV aswell... Also 5dmk2 can shoot raw with magic lantern. Its not the best i know. But realy if you look at the videos in general they look the same... So its more about what you do with it.
It was my first full frame camera and I learned a lot with it. It still delivers amazing results (for photography) and it has one of the best grips for my hands of all the cameras that I own. Having said that, it’s been my webcam for the last four years, non stop 8 hours or more every working day and it never overheated or had any glitch. I think it will outlive my other cameras 😂
That's awesome! It's crazy that most new cameras can't pull of even 2 hrs of use without overheating lol. Maybe I need to repurpose my RP instead of letting it gather dust!
@@learningcameras yeah, I am surprised too. I just use a dummy battery and a elgato video capture dongle, set the clean HDMI out and that’s it. The good thing is that it is not recording so it just captures the video and sends it through hdmi maybe that’s why it’s lasting so long 🤷
Yep 00:06 that damn ubiquitous side hinged rear screen is rubbish. Its too slow, obtrusive and sticks out to the side like a sore thumb. It’s about time Canon gave us a choice, do they have a contact in place where they’re not allowed to use a tilt screen or something?
So, the only knocks against this camera are only if you're doing this new-fangled video thang. Us dinosuars that only shoot still pictures and don't need these new-fangled 21st century bells-and-whistles needed for the "talkies" will do just fine with the EOS RP, correct?
haha...yeah, I'd recommend it more for the photo shooting dinosaurs. The big improvements in the last 6 years with cameras in this price range are mainly around autofocus and video
I just ordered an RP this week, for a little over 600€. It hasn’t arrived yet, but it should be an open box, probably brand new camera. I don’t do video, and my main camera is an EOS R6. The lowest price I ever saw for the R8 is 1100€, so that’s pretty much twice the money. The cheapest EOS R are going for over 800€ at the end of their lives, and decent ones are between 900 and 1000€. To be fair, my only concerns are the smaller EVF and the fact that I’ll have to get different batteries for it, but the price of the RP beats everything. I also had a 6D Mark II prior to my R6, so I already know how the sensor behaves. If I like it, it will definitely stay. It’s cheap, lightweight, takes pictures, it’s full-frame, and uses RF lenses.
@@dronetheworld4k67 it has it but you shouldn't use it. It will be a major quality hit and since the readout speeds are slow, you can have banding from artificial lights and rolling shutter if your subject is moving
I have a RP, Best camera Ive ever owned, the only downside to it is trying to run it off external power is impossible and then if you want a dummy battery, I found the cable hole is just in the wrong place when you've got it on a cage.
Canon RP is a great all rounder for someone who doesn't shoot a lot of sports and doesn't need 4K video (who does anyway?) the only big downside is the battery life. it's just annoying.
If u shoot like a professional and know how about lights in photography, u feel more than enuf with DR in canon cameras... i prefer better colours instead 😌
i would like to start making short cinematic videos for social media and i don’t know if i should get an r10 over this, i love photography, but i wanna start videography too.. ps: i have canon 2000d so both will be a biiig upgrade😅
The power bank needs to support the USB-C PD ("power delivery") standard, and only works with the camera switched off. However an interesting option is to buy a dummy battery with a USB-A compatible input: this can be plugged into any high capacity power bank that provides a standard 2.5 amp output, enough to power the camera. Of course, this can get a little un-ergonomic...
4k video on the RP is definitely half assed. But I'm talking new camera prices. Obviously open box or used you can often find much better deals and maybe a small risk depending on where you buy it. It's tough to make videos like this comparing used/open box prices just because they are fluctuating and there is no guarantee you can even find one open box. But if you got an A7II for $599, that seems like a great deal! But that doesn't mean 5000 other people who watch this video can get that same deal
@@learningcameras I mean, even new with a kit lens, the A7 II is cheaper, but I get what you mean. I'm just saying in the sub 899 range there are a range of FF and MFT mirrorless cameras that may well have similar features to the current entry level(mirrorless APSC is kind of a no mans land, idk).
If you meaning a delay between pressing the shutter button repeatedly in single shot mode, no, I don't think there's any delay worth talking about. This camera does good still photography. I don't have much experience with video, but for informal shooting, and being careful with exposure and the right choice of Canon's "picture profile" for the color/contrast/sharpening you want, there no reason acceptable FHD video can't be prepared, it's just not a flexible solution for those who really need to create and post-process footage in a "professional" manner.
It’s really not that good. Dynamic range affects the colors. Tech is really a letdown. Good glass can’t fix everything..😅thanks Dan. You have a very beautiful wife …l
Right now, Sony a7iii is the best affordable full-frame mirrorless camera. Amazon has it on sale for $1,300.00 usd and if you get it on EDU discount with Adorama, you can get it for under $1,200.00 usd. This is literally the best deal for a full-frame Mirrorless camera that still takes great pictures and can be use for a lot of client gigs. The video side isn't great anymore, but the photography side of the a7iii will hold up for another 10 years.
I think most people camera searching in that price range will value the smaller, lighter, compact, and easier interface of the R8. The R8 also has quite a few new features that make it a great camera for the price so I tend to recommend the R8 more often
Coming from 5D2 to the RP I have had surprisingly little to complain about. The RP allows for extremely fast content creation with mobile workflows, which seems to be a much overlooked point. It does excellent in the studio and works well for virtually anything except fast action. The small form factor comes with drawbacks on ergonomics and battery life. Mirrorless has its quirks, I mean who decided a default 2 second image review would work well inside a viewfinder? In sum, a very nice camera, the low price let me spend more on glass (replacing EF L with RF L is .. taxing), and it can even do a bit of video.
You can remove the image review from the settings. I also found it quite annoying before!
Did I see camera conspiracies wave the cripple hammer.
It takes great pictures it's just slow. It's been a good value though.
TL;DR don’t buy this outdated thing, pay 300 more for the R8
That's definitely the option I recommended at the end if you have the $ to do it. It's a worthy splurge
@@learningcameras Agree. I had an RP for a little while and recently upgraded to an R8 which I have been really enjoying.
R8 is $500 more
I would agree however I don’t think most people buying this camera aren’t buying it new. You can find them for under $700 on mpb
I'd probably snag an used A7iii for about the same price but that is a crazy low price for a new full frame mirrorless! Great vid as always, Dan!
Yeah, used is always a great way to go especially for older cameras and the A7III is definitely a step up in every area. Thanks!
With the recent price drop of the a7iii, we can now get used a7iii for $1,000 usd or less now. Sad to say but its a bad time to sell your a7iii if you still want $1,200 usd for a used model.
@@harryvuemedia5106 yeah that’s literally what I just said.
I don't own an RP & will probably save for an R8, as it seems the RPs AF is a bit slow, but I do really like the images I've seen the RP produce.
I still have one too... terrible for sports, but the image quality is pretty good (although the sensor lacks dynamic range). Battery range is lacking. HD video (24-60p) with autofocus is excellent (for 8bit content), but not great for 4K or super slo-mo.
Yeah, Canon really didn't try that hard with the RP so it's an interesting camera. But 899 for full frame is tempting!
Wait the sensor in this is the same with the r6ii why the DR is not great?
@@mbismbismb The R8 sensor is the same as the R6II. The sensor in the RP is a different sensor
There is no better $900 full frame camera for photography. If you want a do everything camera this isn't it. But if you want a $900 full frame camera that can take beautiful pictures in controlled scenarios it's wonderful. It's not a low light beast. It's not a sports camera. But it's amazing as a studio camera or in situations where you have some control (e.g. Using lights or strobes )
Well said
Just bought one and love the pics it produces. I also have an R5 for nature and sport photography.
Dan I consider that camera, but choose the original R. Since I’ve moved on to Fuji because I grew tired of cost of gear and most importantly I felt Canon didn’t value me as a consumer! Full frame or not there are better options out there!
Fujifilm is doing amazing things right now. I personally own the X100VI and the X2H and they are amazing. I wish they made full frame cameras and Fujifilm is stupid not to release a full frame version of the X100VI given how popular that camera is. Obviously they don't have full frame lenses but they could absolutely make full frame cameras with fixed lenses pretty quickly
Except for low-light performance, I have been very happy with this camera for landscape images.
I have the Canon RP and I shoot bald eagle pictures with it
For street & portrait the RP is fine 👍🏻
i still have an RP, its my studio portrait camera and sometimes weddings. i use technicolor cinetstyle as a log profile for grading.
I'ts a very capable camera but prefer the R in regard compared to this one.
Well, I`m staying with my M6 Mark II + Speedbooster and with 16fps or 30fps electronic shutter
Great video! Why buy new? The Eos R is much better in many aspects, especially the battery.
I agree, buying a used camera is generally pretty safe. The EOS R is only available used I think but I think prices for that are close to the Canon R8 which I think is a really good camera and will hold value more than the R8 since it's current tech. It's not that the EOS R is bad, but the R8 is so cheap right now, it's a better deal if you're spending over $1k
The AF is much much better? Dpaf version 2?
@@mbismbismb No, but you can use batteries deom the 5d series (5d mkii and later and for those switching, this is amazing. The Eos R is a mini 5d mk iv).
I have been using the rp nearly since it came out. My only complaints are that it cant shoot dark subjects against bright backgrounds. In one instance, I shot a Nigerian girls graduation session at the beach and it absolutely couldn't find her. Second complaint is that it doesn't have 120fps in any resolution. Honestly id even be cool with 720p 120 like in the original R. Other than those to things I'd never upgrade.
Aslo battery life and lack of 2 card slots don't bother me because batteries are cheap and I pair the rp with a 5d mkiii for important events
I use my RP for portraiture, so none of the drawbacks. Plus I never do video. And if I need an AF speed machine, I just pull out my 7dii.
I have it for 4 years and still love it. I use it with the grip you could buy. Sometimes even for wildlife. Have an r7 to. And sometimes i love that slow framerate from the rp.
Awesome!
Just bought 5dmk2 for 250 euros. 1080p raw video with magic lantern. Go and beat that for 250!!!
800 for this ia realy not worth... You can buy an sony alpha something for that. And be way better off!
I think the next good camera is r5. But thats completely different category.
I had the 5dm2. Terrible for video. Moire patterns. Just try shooting indoors at wood floor and the grain pattern causes moire. Solved it by putting in a filter behind sensor but pain the in the but. Got the 5dm3 and it had much better video but not near as good as the R8 which can shoot 4k 60 and even 1080 180fps.
@@keithwiebe1787 That sure. I mean if you pay good money you get better stats, 4k 60p and stuff like that.
But i am watching all on a laptop of resolution 1360x 1060 or something.
I truly dont see a big difference between a C400 that came out recently. And the canon 5dmk2 i bought for 250. Literaly.
The video looks the same in the cameras of 10 years ago as it does now. In general!
Yes the stats are better. They worked out the colors much better. Also did you upgradr your 5d firmware. I upgraded firmware and there is alot fixed, and it runs very well.
If i would look at the images ok a huge 1080 TV screen, then there maybe would be a difference. on a 4k huge TV would see some more difference.
How many people you know who actualy own 4k huge tvs ???
Also if you still make your 1080 look good, it will look good on 4k TV aswell... Also 5dmk2 can shoot raw with magic lantern.
Its not the best i know. But realy if you look at the videos in general they look the same... So its more about what you do with it.
It was my first full frame camera and I learned a lot with it. It still delivers amazing results (for photography) and it has one of the best grips for my hands of all the cameras that I own. Having said that, it’s been my webcam for the last four years, non stop 8 hours or more every working day and it never overheated or had any glitch. I think it will outlive my other cameras 😂
That's awesome! It's crazy that most new cameras can't pull of even 2 hrs of use without overheating lol. Maybe I need to repurpose my RP instead of letting it gather dust!
@@learningcameras yeah, I am surprised too. I just use a dummy battery and a elgato video capture dongle, set the clean HDMI out and that’s it. The good thing is that it is not recording so it just captures the video and sends it through hdmi maybe that’s why it’s lasting so long 🤷
Just get a used Z6
Canon RP with the 24-105mm f.4-7.1 for 888€ our the sony a6400 with the sigma 18-50mm f.2.8 for 1200€?
Full frame vs Crop Sensor?
Always full frame but non Rp, you can save for an r8
Yep 00:06 that damn ubiquitous side hinged rear screen is rubbish. Its too slow, obtrusive and sticks out to the side like a sore thumb.
It’s about time Canon gave us a choice, do they have a contact in place where they’re not allowed to use a tilt screen or something?
Even their newest models don't have a screen with tilt-up. Sony, Nikon and Panasonic doing a better job here, though only at the more expensive models
So, the only knocks against this camera are only if you're doing this new-fangled video thang. Us dinosuars that only shoot still pictures and don't need these new-fangled 21st century bells-and-whistles needed for the "talkies" will do just fine with the EOS RP, correct?
haha...yeah, I'd recommend it more for the photo shooting dinosaurs. The big improvements in the last 6 years with cameras in this price range are mainly around autofocus and video
I just ordered an RP this week, for a little over 600€. It hasn’t arrived yet, but it should be an open box, probably brand new camera.
I don’t do video, and my main camera is an EOS R6. The lowest price I ever saw for the R8 is 1100€, so that’s pretty much twice the money. The cheapest EOS R are going for over 800€ at the end of their lives, and decent ones are between 900 and 1000€.
To be fair, my only concerns are the smaller EVF and the fact that I’ll have to get different batteries for it, but the price of the RP beats everything. I also had a 6D Mark II prior to my R6, so I already know how the sensor behaves.
If I like it, it will definitely stay. It’s cheap, lightweight, takes pictures, it’s full-frame, and uses RF lenses.
Can you confirm if the Canon R8 is crippled with a 30min clean HDMI out limitation (unlike the RP)?
It doesn't have electronic shutter ???
@@dronetheworld4k67 it has it but you shouldn't use it. It will be a major quality hit and since the readout speeds are slow, you can have banding from artificial lights and rolling shutter if your subject is moving
I have a RP, Best camera Ive ever owned, the only downside to it is trying to run it off external power is impossible and then if you want a dummy battery, I found the cable hole is just in the wrong place when you've got it on a cage.
Still using the RP for our RUclips channel. ^_^ Looking to upgrade to the R8 soon. I mean hopefully soon. LOL!
Canon RP is a great all rounder for someone who doesn't shoot a lot of sports and doesn't need 4K video (who does anyway?) the only big downside is the battery life. it's just annoying.
If u shoot like a professional and know how about lights in photography, u feel more than enuf with DR in canon cameras... i prefer better colours instead 😌
For someone purchasing a camera on a budget, I would steer away from Canon due to the lack of third party lens options.
If your gonna get this camera get it certified refurbished from Canon's Website for $550
after the update i still don't have 24frames
think there’s something special to portraits with this camera… lost with newer cameras?
i would like to start making short cinematic videos for social media and i don’t know if i should get an r10 over this, i love photography, but i wanna start videography too..
ps: i have canon 2000d so both will be a biiig upgrade😅
I think if you're shooting video, the R10 would be a better option. It's also on a massive sale: bhpho.to/420awMp
Still very expensive in India on Amazon😂😂😂
Can the battery be charged with a power bank only when it is switched off or is there a way to charge it while taking pictures?
The power bank needs to support the USB-C PD ("power delivery") standard, and only works with the camera switched off. However an interesting option is to buy a dummy battery with a USB-A compatible input: this can be plugged into any high capacity power bank that provides a standard 2.5 amp output, enough to power the camera. Of course, this can get a little un-ergonomic...
you can get R8 in china with this price
Idk, i got my A7 ii open box for $599. No kit lens, 3 shutter count. Watching this, idk what the RP offers over it, 4k video? Half assed though.
4k video on the RP is definitely half assed. But I'm talking new camera prices. Obviously open box or used you can often find much better deals and maybe a small risk depending on where you buy it. It's tough to make videos like this comparing used/open box prices just because they are fluctuating and there is no guarantee you can even find one open box. But if you got an A7II for $599, that seems like a great deal! But that doesn't mean 5000 other people who watch this video can get that same deal
@@learningcameras I mean, even new with a kit lens, the A7 II is cheaper, but I get what you mean. I'm just saying in the sub 899 range there are a range of FF and MFT mirrorless cameras that may well have similar features to the current entry level(mirrorless APSC is kind of a no mans land, idk).
Do you have to wait for the photo to be taken after pressing the Expo button?
If you meaning a delay between pressing the shutter button repeatedly in single shot mode, no, I don't think there's any delay worth talking about. This camera does good still photography. I don't have much experience with video, but for informal shooting, and being careful with exposure and the right choice of Canon's "picture profile" for the color/contrast/sharpening you want, there no reason acceptable FHD video can't be prepared, it's just not a flexible solution for those who really need to create and post-process footage in a "professional" manner.
Is it true that the viewfinder image is dark for a long time after the photo is taken, i.e. you can't see anything for a long time?
No...Haven't heard that one
@@learningcameras Thanks!
It’s really not that good. Dynamic range affects the colors. Tech is really a letdown. Good glass can’t fix everything..😅thanks Dan. You have a very beautiful wife …l
Right now, Sony a7iii is the best affordable full-frame mirrorless camera. Amazon has it on sale for $1,300.00 usd and if you get it on EDU discount with Adorama, you can get it for under $1,200.00 usd. This is literally the best deal for a full-frame Mirrorless camera that still takes great pictures and can be use for a lot of client gigs. The video side isn't great anymore, but the photography side of the a7iii will hold up for another 10 years.
No, the Canon R8 is a better value.
@@natureredux1957 Canon R8 has no ibis and no dual SD slot, so how is it a better value?
@@harryvuemedia5106 Well everyone values different things.
I think most people camera searching in that price range will value the smaller, lighter, compact, and easier interface of the R8. The R8 also has quite a few new features that make it a great camera for the price so I tend to recommend the R8 more often
@@harryvuemedia5106does the a7iii has more megapixels than r8 does it focus much better and sticky and recognize birds eyes from far distance too?