My Expensive Out of Warranty Tesla Model Y Repair
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- Опубликовано: 29 дек 2023
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One thing I've learned about Teslas and luxury vehicles is that they're meant for people who finance new, or lease new, and sell after warranty.
Get out after the gettin was gud.
That's how it works with all new cars.
@@user-lu3nn5ly3f Obvious lies don't make the point you think they do. They just show that you're not to be trusted.
Mostly German cars!@@therealctoo4183
@@user-lu3nn5ly3f $25K EV 😆 dream on mate
I drive a 33 year old car that has working heated seats & HVAC system. No downtime because of charging, no software updates and only 3 control modules... ECM, ABS & cruise control. I love it!
Ecm,ABS has saved millions of lives, so you're lucky 😅
This boomer has a 33 year old car that is completely MAINTENANCE FREE!
Truly incredible.
@Del_987 pretty much. In the last 6 years, nothing but oil changes. Plugs, air filter, brakes etc. all have been fine. Why would you want to buy an EV at $40k+ (USD) when you will NEVER recoup the "savings" of cost of fuel. LOL
Keep it long enough and you need a battery worth more than the car is worth. LOL
Yeah, trade it in for a new EV... and scrap the old one. Who's polluting more now?
@@funnyguy1487 they recycle the battery and don't give two fucks about environment . I like fast quiet cars with 20 in tvs in them duh!
@@funnyguy1487 that 40 plus k ev will smoke everything under 100k lol boomer. Even the model 3 dose 0-60 in 4 seconds. some of us want to have fun and don't care about oil or the planet lol. i am just don't with 90 bucks at the pump i know that much.
This experience almost surely discouraged a bunch of people from buying a Tesla. It had that effect on me!
Me too! If the AC compressor on my Ford van breaks I can still drive the van. Go figure.
I have never considered buying any kind of EV and never will.
@@davidhouston5783 Never is a long time unless you're as old as I am, but EVs are not yet ready for general use. They need more time to deal with battery safety, charging time and driving range, and there need to be public chargers readily accessible throughout the country. While they're at it, cars need to be repairable again. Right now, all they can do is to replace entire modules or systems because they can't repair them.
That's good, less wait time for others who want one.
I was this close 🙏to pulling the trigger on a Tesla, now I think I’ll go with a Toyota.
57,000 miles and the compressor is bad, that's insane!
As a former HVAC tech, my guess is that the compressor had a mechanical breakdown that led to debris circulating through the refrigeration lines. This would be the main reason to replace the AC lines. The original estimate was pretty much in line with what other manufacturers would charge to replace similar equipment, but the supermanifold added a lot of complexity and cost. I think your video just sold some extended warranties.
Yup, im getting an extended warranty for sure now lol.
I think you're right... and Tesla should give me commission on the extended warranty sales... :) Thanks for watching!
The HVAC system is what I worry about most out of warranty
@@eddevoe2519You should.
@@JetFire9 I am refrigeration tech and owner myself.
Sorry for trouble, but troubles are just starting, we stopped dealing with them, we sold ours
So what are you driving now?
@@pleemana carriage
@@rafusabr carriages are tight!
I am going to keep my old Toyota Camry. Last year all I did was an oil change, and that was it. It's nice to have a car that doesn't eat you alive and take your hard-earned money because EV's are so new they are still in the experimental phase and using unsuspecting people as guinea pigs.
What took you so long?!?
It’s insane how these cars aren’t that old and have so many issues. So glad I still have my 1992 car with no issues .
New normal man, all these expenses are new normal
@alexanderkennedy2969you get what you vote for 🤷 if you don’t want this to continue then vote different.
@alexanderkennedy2969 same for me but 2020 since I wasn’t old enough in 2016. The current nation surprisingly reminds me of California where the majority of the country vote red (like the majority of California), but the few places with so many people vote liberal and ruin it.
2015 Mazda, 159 k miles nothing but brakes oil changes. Tires. find me a Tesla with 150,000 miles with the same battery and drive electric motors. It will never happen. They are junk. Most Teslas become paper weights after five years 75,000 miles if you go on the out of warranty tesla forums you’ll want to kill yourself. Some of these people are regular blue-collar people cabdrivers etc who bought Teslas for $50,000 thinking it would save them so much money on gas then the battery goes up and it’s $25,000 to repair
My diesel car with particle filter from 2006 is incredible reliable
I have watched many Tesla videos. I went from really wanting one, and attempting to justify the high cost, to being glad I kept my 2004 Buick Park Avenue. I keep the Buick in perfect condition. It has 145,000 miles drives, and runs perfectly.
Have a 2013 Scion tC, 160k miles on her, runs like a clock!
The range doesn't magically go down every time I fill up too.. cold doesn't cause my car to shit itself, unlike EVs.
Just look at Chicago 😁
I agree with you EV's are endless money pits and not fit for purpose!
2004? Christ. Treat yourself with a new car. You only live once. We could all buy old basic cars for next to nothing but some ppl like new cars. Why not go even further and sell your 2004 car and catch a bus everywhere and save more money and make life even more miserable
@@kygladdish2554 I have three vehicles. My Buick looks like new drives and drives the same way.
Keep the Buick!
I owned a Model S for 5 years, one year out of warranty. It cost me a couple grand in expenses in that one year and it felt like things kept breaking every few months so I dumped it.
Have you gone back to an ICE car?
two hybrids in the garage in place of two Teslas, Lexus ES hybrid and RAV4 plugin hybrid @@RUHappyATM
@@RUHappyATM Clearly the poster did, as his pfp is of the Lexus emblem, dead giveaway lmao.
@@lupavo1738
I don't look at people's emblems...I read what they post!
@RUHappyATM-- I was watching Internet Dude's channel when he was having many problems with his Tesla. His videos convinced me not to buy an EV. He ended up buying a Lexus, and a beautiful 2007 Lincoln Town Car.
I have a 2002 Town Car that I bought in 2007 for $11,750. More than 16 years and about 100,000 miles later, it has never let me down. Yes, I have had to make a few repairs, but it has been the most economical car I have ever owned, and still rides like a dream.
Insurance companies in the U.K. are refusing to insure Teslas due to the cost to repair simple fender benders, and the problems storing and working on the cars.
That surprises me. Insuring EV vehicles cost less here in Belgium, than their equivalent combustion engine cars, for the same car's price.
I'm guessing you heard that someplace. In the U.S. it cost the same, generally;except when you get gouged by the shop. Some shops assume you can afford more if you have a T. Most insurance companies love to insure Teslas because every model has the highest safety rating on the planet, especially model S and Model X which use airplane quality materials for the frame. Also because the battery is bottom heavy it's nearly, nearly impossible to rollover in an accident. More people survive and even walk away without a scratch from some very 'unsurvivable' accidents; the Tesla actually saved their life. I'm saying that I wish I would have written down the many stories I heard from ppl in accidents that came back into our Tesla dealership to buy another, after their old Tesla was totalled. Two elderly sisters who were T-boned by a drunk driver grateful to be alive because of their Model X. A guy who fell asleep driving went off a ramp in Los Angeles, walked away. A family of 5 whose driver, a doctor drove off a cliff in Malibu intentionally and he with his family survived. A couple who were on the Los Angeles 10 Freeway at night, poor visibility and a black Mercedes was stalled (parked) in the center lane they were coming at about 70 mph and didn't have time to stop, but the Tesla slammed on it's brakes after the car in front of them veered around the stalled vehicle which wasn't visible until that car swerved. They slammed into the back of the stalled car. They were walking into our dealership to buy another since, that Tesla was totaled but saved their lives. I could go on and on with these stories told to me by first hand witnesses. A Tesla needs little to no repair maintenance, generally speaking; all car factories on the planet can put out a bad part or something, but the Warranty is awesome. Shop for insurance. Also the car has a monitoring and rating system built in for drivers to evaluate speed, unsafe passing and so forth which lowers your insurance cost if you keep a good driver rating. Tesla is a unique driving experience, no longer a 'luxury' car but for many drivers, it's actually a money saver!
Any time an EV has been in a collision, there is a high risk of compromised battery integrity. It is difficult to identify damaged batteries that will ultimately self-combust. The problems with storing EVs is that the damaged batteries self-combust consuming everything in flames (repair shop, other vehicles, and all shop equipment). With regard to Tesla's, their batteries are integral to the frame of the vehicle and involve extensive labor and time to remove and replace. Three days ago, an EV parked in a garage at Rosemont, IL, shopping mall burst into flames.
No intelligent insurance company should insure these pieces of shit.
@@dudley269
All those incidents are probably more because of luck than any other reason, and what about the people in the other vehicles hit by these behemoths?
I believe you will find insurance on those vehicles will become more and more expensive as more of them get on the road, and reality sets I'm.
I hope, for the sake of all those who fell for it, that isn't the case, but I have neither the desire, or the finances, to buy one of those.
I just sold my 2018 Model 3 Performance after buying a new Model Y. It has 97,500 miles and has no significant issues since the warranty expired. Those that want to use anecdotal stories about their gas cars not having issues, well, here's my anecdotal story about one with very few problems. :)
Another anecdote: A friend with a 2020 GMC Terrain with 90,000 miles that has been religiously maintained with service records needs a new engine at a quoted cost for a rebuilt engine of $10,000. Cars break. Sometimes at inopportune times.
Yep such a great car. Only cost $2,200 dollars to fix the heater. Absolutely insane.
Boys will be boys and fanbois will be fanbois.
and the time , stress, anxiety , hassle it brings. Imagine if you don't have any other car and you drive it to work.
Well these idiots wanted to be in the green culture so let them eat dirt
The kicker is you can't work on it. No dyi to save money here
@@alexp.6406 I have. So I looked up the cost for a heat pump replacement on a Mercedes and Google is saying it's around $1,700. It's $1,600 for a Toyota, so you're really not saving much. This guy says he negotiated a 50% discount, so it would have cost him around $4,600 instead of $2,300.
I'm surprised, with all of Tesla's sophistication, the car just didn't "phone home" when it set that code and the company didn't proactively notify you right away that it needed repairs, instead of you having to verify.
Like my BMW nonexteded warantee nonphone home nothing, lol where do you people live. 😅😂
Mine did just that. No “customer states” it was “car states” 😳
Ev's in general have a bad reputation. Only tesla gets ragged on though. Hybrids are a more proven technology to date. Ev's have a long way to go.
In some cases the car does notify Tesla of issues.
Oddly all the new semi trucks "phone home" when repairs or maintenance is needed.
Sorry to see your situation. I needed a super reliable car here in Australia and went for the Japanese Built Mitsubishi ICE with 10 Years Warranty , 10 Years Fixed Price Servicing and Roadside Assist .
My Mitsubishi Galant had a bad steering rack and the air suspension system crapped out ($1,900 to fix.. no aftermarket parts available). I finally got rid of it when it kept leaving me stranded and no-one could fix the problem. When I switched over to Honda I never looked back.
It's amazing how close your situation is to a situation I had with my 2014 GMC Sierra 2500HD. At about 2,000 miles over the factory 36,000-mile warranty, my truck died on me and left me stranded on the side of the road. First time something like that has ever happened to me and I was NOT happy about it. Luckily I wasn't too far from home at the time, and I was not far from my buddy's towing company. Called him up and he sent a truck over to where I was and towed my Sierra to the nearest GM dealer.
My truck was out of warranty, but the dealer still gave me a loaner car, sent me home and told me they'd call me when they figured out what the problem was. They called me later that day, told me it was the ECU, which had fried itself and was a "known issue" with those trucks, and said it would be about $1,000 to fix it. I was pretty mad, and I let her know that, but I didn't get all worked up about it over the phone.
I figured it would be better to get worked up about it in person at the dealership when I was actually standing in front of them and they had no choice but to listen to me so they couldn't brush me off like they could on a phone call. My intent was to go to pick the truck up when it was done and raise hell in person about them charging me $1,000 to fix a "known issue" when the truck is barely past the 36,000-mile warranty limit.
So I drove the loaner car back to the dealership the next day (or whenever it was...a day or two), walked into the service center and the lady handed me the bill that had all the itemized repairs listed out, which came to a little over $1,000, and next to "amount owed" it said $0. She told me GM took care of it and I was good to go. Gave me the keys and off I went...I didn't even have to cause a scene. Haven't had any problems with the truck since...although now at nearly 100,000 miles the little screen on the OEM radio is starting to fail, but the radio still functions. And one of the speakers recently died. But other than minor stuff like that, which is easily fixed by myself, I've had no problems at all with the truck.
Your car was further out of warranty than my truck was at the time I had my issue, which is certainly something that has to be considered, but I think an important aspect of both cases is that the issues were KNOWN, MAJOR PROBLEMS to both manufacturers. And the fact that Tesla had already "fixed" the system on your car that eventually failed entirely makes this much worse IMO.
They could've replaced your compressor during the recall, but instead they probably just put a Band-Aid on it...and I'm willing to bet they were just hoping that the entire compressor would hold on long enough for your warranty to end. That way they wouldn't have to pay to replace the entire thing like they would have if your car WAS still under warranty. And Tesla sure won, didn't they? The compressor held on long enough for them to steal over $2,300 from you, rather than them having to eat that cost themselves. They got you good...but something tells me you're the type of fella whose next new vehicle will probably be another Tesla anyway.
Couldn't agree more
I had a 1986 GM car. I ended up knowing the mechanic on a first name basis. I would call, and he’d say “the GM again”, and I said “of course”, I traded it in for a 1990 Camry, and have never known another mechanic’s name since. We recycled every Camry through every young driver, until about the 300,000 mile range. All were extremely reliable, when old, rode hard and put away wet by college students. Yet, every time you put the key in, they run. (unless you never change the oil or get a new battery and new tires😁) And that’s why we buy Toyota’s. They aren’t the flashiest work horses, but they are so reliable and last so long, they become like family. Hard to see them go (we name them by size and color). Right now the Prius C is little blue and the Tundra is big red. They have different purposes, and they faithfully fulfill every request, without any problems, at all.
The ECU is the engine control module. This has 8 year, 80,000 mile federal emission coverage. They should have told you this rather than letting you think that they did this as goodwill.
I've had two brand new Honda Civics and a brand new Toyota Rav4 Prime with heat pump. I've never had any significant issues costing several thousands of dollars to fix in the first 3 years of the car, much less over 15 and 20 years for the Civics. My Rav4 Prime is 3 years old now and 60k miles. Drives like a dream, and never had any issues. I was thinking about the model Y, but now, I'm not so sure.
This is great, honest, down to earth content. I've not made the jump from ICE (BMW 2 SERIES 2016, 72K miles) Ireland, to BEV yet due to infrastructure issues, cost and range anxiety but I congratulate you on your reasonable attitude and fair conclusions. Great content. Thank you. 😊
I have a 2009 BMW 335i. 149,950 miles. Done all maintenance and repairs myself. Plan on keeping it until it vomits all over the road.
The big problem here is not the EV, but that Tesla is like Apple and keeps everything proprietary and never shares any technical documents so nobody other than Tesla can fix anything so they can charge whatever they feel like and you can't go anywhere else and depending on where you live it can months.
@noseboop4354 Yep. Just ask my neighbor who is $8k in debt from repairs to his model X.
Ev cars on a whole are trash , good luck when you run over a rock or log on the road , damage the skid pan and the garage refuse to service it , and quote you for a complete battery pack at £20k
@@PhilDurham That's when the insurance company totals it for you and raises your rates.
I keep driving my Lexus, dealer a few miles away from my house. Ten years, never ever gives me any problems. Both Lexus and 2010 and a 2013, tires, breaks, gas and some maintaining…. Love them
Yep. 3 Lexuses in my household. Our 2008 RX350 just hits 160k miles and costed me less than $3k over the last 15 years in repair/maintenance. My 2017 ES350 had not a single issue. Just bought a new NX350h a few money ago.
They are cars built to last. 👍
Lexus are good cars I was a mechanic for 35 years you don't need to lift the hood very often on them! 👍👍👍👍
I own a 2014 Toyota 4Runner with 189,000 miles. In 10 years of ownership, I’ve had one repair, $180. All else has been routine maintenance. 😎
That sounds about right for a Toyota. Guy I work with has 638,000 miles on a 2005 Toyota Corolla. Never did anything but change the eral and the brakes once or twice
The amount of money you put in on fuel compared to the repair costs of a Tesla just doesn’t compare. It costs me $3.50 to charge at home and get 300 miles of range
@@shanedwood the first $20,000 battery replacement will wipe that out in one shot
@@grazz7865I’m not a tesla fan, but batteries are covered under warranty up to 8 years or 150k miles on a model Y. In those 8 years a Toyota 4Runner would use around $21k in fuel alone. Using US average of 14k miles per year and an average of $3.50 per gallon. That’s not including oil changes and or other maintenance required on an ICE
@@bigj7574 and electric is free? That same 4Runner engine could last the life of the vehicle if well maintained. It is not guaranteed to fail at some point like a lithium battery. And if it did fail, it might cost me $7,000-$8,000 to rebuild or replace the engine at which time I would see if it’s actually worth it.
As a BMW/Benz driver I always trade my cars in a few months to a year before the warranty expires, learned my lesson years ago, just past warranty they never fail to act up
It happened with my first German car and that was my last German car
Same here. My wife’s 2015 328i transmission went out 5k miles after warranty. BMW actually stepped up and covered the $8k repair. We got rid of the car right after.
Nothing to brag about. While you lessen the risk of getting stranded, you pay through the nose with those enternal car payments, sucking up the depreciation.
@@joshuatran3667 nope my payments due to my credit score and credit union 1.5% apr lower than a Toyota
ehh i beg to differ from many owners. I’ve had 16 total German cars with no issues. Currently have a w212 with 166k miles, a 328i with 120k miles with the early N20 with no issues at all.
My 2021 Model 3 Performance heat pump went out at 13,000 miles. Took Tesla about 4 days to repair. Basically they just pulled the old out and put in a brand new pump.
On a side note: I noticed you mentioned AAA. If you have the top membership, I think you would have been covered to tow the distance. If not, then at least the first 100 miles for no charge, then work out the rest. If I were tasked with paying $700 plus to go 2 hours away, I would have rented a U-Haul pickup for $19.95/day plus the $.079/mile, and a U-Haul car hauler for another $65.00. That would have run about $275.00 round trip. Just an idea!
Thanks for sharing that information
Exactly the options that I was thinking. U-Haul on long hauls can be expensive because of per-mile pricing. Plus, those trucks are not really fuel-efficient. I would add 60-80$ fuel cost to the estimate. The worst part is you have to do the work and spend time to drive there and back.
AAA top-tier membership on the other hand is a good option. In my area, AAA says 200mile towing is free. I would just get a yearly subscription. It has other benefits as well.
Agreed! Exactly what I was thinking!@@suvari225
Hey, yeah, I had not thought of that. I just commented another idea as well, and that was to have scheduled the car to be delivered with a car transport company. Since he had the time and they could drive the car to get it on the transport... I had a car I purchased out of state, 350 miles away, had it delivered for ..under $380 bucks, from the dealership to my driveway.
@@MRantzWI but then you run into more headaches and costs if the cars has been damaged (dents, scratches…)
Tesla has/had a problem with early heatpumps. I had the same issue with my 2021 Model Y. Just 1,500 miles out of warranty. They goodwilled the parts and I paid the labor after complaining as well.
Total then was $3500...I paid $1000.
I'm going to guess ALL early models with the heatpump will go bad because they all got damaged by incorrect software running the supermanifold valves, causing rapid wear in the compressor which sends metal through the system. This is why the lines and supermanifold need to be replaced as well.
This happened about 35k miles ago for me. It's been fine ever since. I live in central Minnesota.
Great info. Thanks for adding this. I have a 2023 Y so I’m feeling better after reading your comment.
This could be the case. Mine is definitely on the early Model Y builds. Thanks for watching!
So is this something that can be requested before warranty runs out? Since it’s becoming a common repair for these models in 2020/21? My 21MYLR has 25k was purchased at non Tesla so no extended warranty for me to buy but now think I need to budged 2500$ for this repair looming…
Thank you for this comment! I have a Nov 2021 Model Y so I'm hoping they had fixed this issue before mine was manufactured
If it is such a known issue they should be recalling and providing free repair for all early owners.
Out of warranty Tesla????
I never thought I'd see the day.
Someone with a Tesla that doesn't change it every year.
Sorry you went thru this but thanks for sharing an honest experience. Very well done video
Don't buy one lol
Wait until the drive unit or a batt module goes. We sold ours after the warranty was up for this reason. The heat pump on our Model Y went out in the middle of Death Valley going from NorCal to Tennessee.
It only takes one time to bail on EVs. My neighbor got swindled into buying a dual motor X. Out of warranty everything started happening. He's had to pay nearly $8k so far on repairs and still no battery issues. He's pissed.
Elon is taking the piss out of all of his EVangelists. Prerequisites are having to be rich and stupid.
the battery and drive unit have a 120K mile warranty
@@James-cq9dp That's nothing
@@TheFrenchPug find me a car company that puts 120K mile warranty on anything
Great honest video. Thanks for taking time to let us know your whole experience. I have 2023 Y and will look into purchasing extended warranty.
Glad you found it helpful! Thanks for watching!
I would have asked for the old parts and then you could do a cool tear down video! 😎
We've had the transmissions go out on two Fords just after warranty. We carefully check out Consumers Reports now.
I just recently purchased a 2024 Cadillac lyric, all-wheel-drive luxury three fully loaded.
I leased the car for three years so that I could evaluate how it fit into my lifestyle before I’d even consider buying one of these things. I’m coming off of a gas powered 2015 jeep SRT and a 2016 dodge charger hellcat.
I found your story interesting to listen to, and a few thoughts came to my mind:
#1 you should never buy a car without buying the extended warranty if you plan on financing it. If you lease it, you don’t really need the extended warranty because you’ll never get to that point unless you decide to finance it at the end of the lease.
#2 unloading their high mileage model three is right now I can honestly say I would never buy a used Tesla.
#3. The valve heat pump in the Tesla model three and model Y is a very innovative device, but you got the first generation of those and that’s probably why you had the problem. The question is how many other people in that generation had that problem and whether the refreshed model 3 and model Y will have that problem.
I have family members interested in buying a Tesla model Y. I will definitely urge them to buy it brand new, lease it, and if they do choose to finance it to take out the extended warranty. Personally: Tesla can’t sell me any of their cars. I’ll buy their stock. there are too many quirks to owning a Tesla right now.
Appreciate this video as my 2020 Model Y just got the same error message with no heat in the cabin. I couldn't get the repair scheduled till mid-January. I asked the KC Service Center if the car was safe to drive from Wichita to KC with a 15% Supercharge along the way and they said yes. They said heating and cooling the battery is independent of Cabin Climate Control. Fortunately I paid for the extended warranty since first year production on any car is likely to have more defects. I appreciate your videos, keep up the good work 🙂
Consumer Reports currently rates the model Y as having a much worse than average reliability. Good luck.
Update: After a very cold (-9 degrees) drive to KC the Tesla Service Center replaced my compressor, supermanifold and some AC lines similar to your fix. Fortunately they did this in 5 hours on the same day I drove up so I had a warm drive home that night. The battery pack pre-conditioned and charged like normal at a Supercharger stop on the way up to KC. Hopefully these parts are an upgrade over the parts in my early Model Y, I don't want to replace them again in 65K miles.
Very low quality, got rid of mine
Trying to get rid of mine as well. However I’m $26k under.
For low quality I see your Tesla and raise you my MG4 Se SR
@@muathshqeirat5463Damn😮
Bet tow truck isn't electric.
This guy is a gluten for punishment. He has two of these expensive toys.
After reliability issues and expensive repair bills on numerous vehicles (and not on others), I decided that any vehicle I buy has to have a J at the beginning of the VIN number. That's the best warranty I've ever bought. It works for motorcycles and cars. Trust me. I've been around.
I love Japanese reliability! My 2007 Yamaha YZF-600R sport bike has 89,000 miles on it so far. Only have had to replace normal items. Brake Pads, Clutch and Throttle Cables, Fuel Filter, and I'm still on my 2nd OEM chain/sprocket set. Chain Wax makes a HUGE difference in chain and sprocket wear! 👍
Agree
J is thing to be....😊
Congratulations buddy...now I know why most of Tesla owners have RUclips channels... because they want to have extra money for Tesla repairs
Thank goodness gas and diesel vehicles never break down and never need maintenance or repairs.
I feel your pain. I had my Tesla fully breakdown due to an electrical issue a few months ago while driving back to CO from IA. Tesla service center said a mouse had chewed the wires but when I asked for pictures the pictures clearly show wires being melted not chewed. Also the Tesla repair person said.. "whats odd is the rodent shield is not chewed through so I am not sure how the mouse chewed the wires". Regardless they stood their ground and made me pay for the repairs which with towing was almost over a grand. Very shady to say the least.
Sell that piece of shit and get a real car.
Sketcheeeeree!
thanks for this video it was very educational. sorry to hear you had to go through this and spend that much money. but as with any mechanical equipment things breakdown. now I will consider the extended warranty on my 2022 Model Y. great job with your video very well done thanks again
Glad you found the video helpful. Thanks for watching!
My 2008 Lexus ES350 with 210k is running perfect. I think it's worth about $5k and after viewing this video, it put the kibosh on my plans to trade it in. I honestly can't afford a rich man's problems.
I’ll give you $6K for it. Don’t make me raise my bid…
I’ve never leased a car. However if I wanted a Tesla I would. With rapidly evolving battery technology this seems the way to go.
I had a daytime running light strip in one headlight go out, Tesla first quoted me around 2k, then after I complained, they said it was a known issue with a tsb, and they then lowered it to 900$. I do love the car, but from what I have personaly experianced, and what other owners have said as well.....most repairs are way overpriced, and almost always take a long time to have the work completed.
That's where Tesla and all dealers make their money. The more they sell, the more they can repair. And with Tesla and other EVs it's proprietary service, so nobody else can do it. They tell you $2k, you complain, they cut it in half, and make you feel good about spending $1k on a headlight repair.
I wonder how much gasoline could have been purchased with $1,000.?@@TheFrenchPug
Good video. Thank you for sharing your experience. I have a 2023 Model Y LR (built in Austin late Jan 2023); It's my 3rd Tesla. It's my understanding that the AC/heatpump compressor is an integral part of the car's battery management system. ICE cars don't need an air conditioner to operate, only to keep the cabin comfortable. Without the AC/heatpump compressor, a Tesla (and most other modern EVs) would likely experience very slow charging rate at a DC fast-charger due to the battery getting too hot (the car would significantly throttle back charging rate to protect the battery). Any kind of driving that would heat up the battery and drive train (like high speed highway driving or long periods of re-gen such as going downhill on a mountain road) or hot weather would also result in the battery getting too hot since the battery management system would be unable to help cool the battery without the AC/heatpump compressor. I live in Texas and, for me, a functioning AC compressor is a must regardless if ICE or EV. In a modern EV, an AC compressor is essential to the operation of the battery/drivetrain.
I have a 2002 Honda Civic Lx with ~135k miles. Clean and drives well. I was *very close to financing a Tesla Y a week or so ago but have decided to wait, save up and cash flow my dream hybrid vehicle. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Hmmm id stick with Honda my car is a 1994 accord one owner and everything still works on it I've done the Timing belt and the brakes and a radiator Iv drove it now b130 000 miles it now has 220 000 miles on it an older person owned it before me 😅
Go Volvo xc90 t8 recharge in pearl white then. That was my #2 pick
Love my “combustion engine” car, Works great! It’s been in the single digits, car starts, has heat, my car locator will Not set off an alarm, the resale value of my car actually holds its value. My Mercedes also has 74,000 miles and all I’ve done is change the oil and had to buy tires. And I can drive to as long as I want in 24 hours with only stopping for 8 minutes long enough to fill my gas tank!!!!!
I have a 2020 MYLR SN ~5800. Last year, the car had an issue with cabin heating (which I almost never use (FL)). Tesla didn't ask any questions and replaced the compressor, octovalve, many other parts under warranty. I suspect that the early heat pumps had some sort of weakness. I'm surprised yours lasted so long, in IA, not that this helps you of course. Thank you for the video and all the others.
Sorry it didn't happen 6 months aga when it would have been covered... Oh well. Thanks for watching!
I feel ya and I’m glad that’s behind you! I have a similar model that I purchased used @20k (currently @33K). I usually don’t buy extended warranties, but I did this time because I didn’t know what I was getting myself into this being my first experience with an EV. Watching this makes me feel that I made the right choice. Thanks for sharing!
Glad you found it helpful. Thanks for watching!
You made the wrong choice buying an EV! How stupid can you be??
What's the manufacturer warranty bumper to bumper on these cars?
He mentioned in the video the extended warranty was $50k. Did I hear that right?
@@MurphyYves $2k for an extra $25k miles of cvg.
I had a model Y performance for 3 years, nothing but headaches, luckily it was a lease, battery issues, charging issues and range anxiety. I sold my Audi A6 to buy the tesla, bad choice ! Tesla was a rough ride, at 40K miles 2 sets of tires replaced, $$$$, warranty fixed rear drive unit, had a fender bender, drove a rental car for two months, Tesla did not have replacements parts, Model Y in JUNK or any Tesla. Now I Got camry Hybrid XSE, Very Happy.
I was gradually moving toward consideration of a model Y. The service aspect had me concerned being a retired logistics officer. I appreciate your sharing this experience.
Thank you for this video. It's good to see a real-life experience -- especially from another Iowan.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
The words Tesla , reliability, and quality dont go together
Huh? 140 year of ICE still piece shit except Toyotas, even Chevrolet can’t even past 150k😂
Lmao😂😂😂
@@jq3mjqi546I've had more than one chevy go well over 200,000 miles with minimal maintenance. My brother had a Honda that went over 375,000 miles. EV apologists are pathetic.
@@jimfarmer7811 The only ICE vehicles I've had over 200,000 miles are Toyota Prius. My wife's love of trucks and F150 wasn't that great. My current little BMW i3 electric is at almost 100,000 miles and the "annual service" is filling up the windshield washer and changing the wiper blades. Every 3 years I bleed the brakes but apart from that 2 hour jaunt it's maintenance free so far. The maintenance schedule says 5 years for the brakes but I figure the brakes rarely get used so the fluid doesn't get a chance to get warm. I used to race cars (SCCA) so bleeding the brakes and understanding brake fluid and what works is second nature.
Yeah b/c one bad incident automatically negates all the other Tesla owners' good experiences. And I'm sure no other cars out there have ever needed repair after 50k miles.
Good to point - Tesla's aren't maintenance-free and while the cost seems high, it's probably the same as "regular maintenance" (transmission fluids, oil, etc.) for a regular car. The biggest concern won't be these "smaller" costs but rather future battery replacement costs - I was told it's around $16k which is worrisome. Other inevitable costs to also consider - cracks in the windshield is around $1000 and the roof around $2000. While the experience is great, this very much reminds me of "boutique" cars like a Mini - weeks to get service instead of a few days/same day. Hopefully this improves over time.
Tesla should have a function that links your bank account on the computer display. This way they can immediately drain your bank account, while towing it away for repairs. I have a 2004 Toyota with V6 engine (110K miles). Zero problems.
Had the same error code on my two week old ‘23 MY. No AC in the FL summer. Had to replace the compressor. This can affect newer models too. Luckily, mine was still under warranty.
Glad yours was covered. Thanks for watching!
So sorry this happened to you, Jim. Thank you for sharing all the details with us.
Happy to do it. Hopefully the views will help me pay for part of it. 🤪 Thanks for watching!
@@iowateslaThe case is a normal situation with average price for similar repairs in any car. I paid the same in an ICE car. Granted in my case in happened at 180000 miles. I still believe that your car failure was premature at 55000 miles. Your concern is valid: do you need to repeat the same repair at 110000 miles? Hopefully the replacement equipment will last longer. I had to replace a valve at that pump in Chrysler Pacifica eHybrid PHEV at 70000 miles but was covered under original factory warranty.
Thanks to your video, I just got my money back from an initial deposit! I am now frightened to come close to Tesla or any electric vehicle.
I have owned a 2023 MYLR for about 7 months. We have put roughly 7,000 miles on it. I have been incredibly disappointed with it. I am also in the midwest and the range is abysmal in the cold weather. Yesterday with temps below 0 it used 150% more range than the estimate. I drove 57 actual miles, and it consumed 142 miles of range. That was in chill mode and limiting my HVAC use as much as possible. The excessive energy consumption has been consistent with temps at or below freezing, typically it is 50-60% more range; but 150%?! That's insane. The other problem is that I have a time of use energy plan and rates are determined by demand. With the cold weather energy prices are higher, so the excessive energy use is costing me far more to charge. Also, after taking delivery my car spent a week at the body shop to correct the factory paint issues. I will be hopefully trading it in within the next couple of days. I have been on the waitlist for the CyberTruck, but I will never own a Tesla again. I think now that more of these are in the hands of people that aren't fanboys or getting paid to hype these things, average people will start giving real opinions about them. The fact you had a major and expensive HVAC issue on a car that has 57k miles on it, had a massive towing bill, and you are still suggesting that others buy these things is ridiculous.I have had numerous vehicles that I have put over 100k miles on and all I have done is routine maintenance. I certainly have never replaced HVAC components at 60k miles. I'm sure that you're getting some sort of incentive by sharing your link, plus the ad revenue from your videos. The average owner isn't going to have those benefits to make up for costly repairs.
I have this same error message on my out of warranty 2020 Model Y 😬 So far my heat still works fine. I've been out of town for the holidays so my appointment isn't until Jan 8. Now I know what to expect.
Ended up being the same repair. Set me back $3,200....
In the past, I have owned out-of-warranty Jaguars and Mercedes and in comparison, these Tesla prices seem very reasonable. For example on the Jaguar on multiple occasions, the turn signal would go out and a flashing warning showed up on the 4" info screen, instead of a new $10 bulb it was always the module that monitored the bulb and always cost > $1,000 this was 20 years ago. .
Overall, I think the charge was reasonable for the work done. Just wished it was covered. Thanks for watching!
Agree, after owning a Mercedes anything is cheap!
Yea my bmw was almoat $9k 40% labor alone, now a days any ac compressor would cost you $2k
@@iowatesla You had $700 in towing which should be included in your total cost of repair. Also the cost of you and your wife driving 4hours as part of the repair process. Glad you had another model Y you could use. There was an old joke about Jags - they recommended you buy 2 since they were so unreliable. We would be a good use case for a Tesla. Retired and drive around 100 miles a week.I drove a model 3 and I loved it. I could consider one if they could improve the build quality and reduce the inconvenience and expense of owning one. Enjoyed the video and Appreciate your honest reporting of your experience.
@@josephdesimone8251try owning a Range Rover.
Thank you very much for sharing experience with your TESLA (or an EV for that matter).
I have a 2020 MSLR+ and just had my first major repair. The suspension bushings needed to be replaced and it was almost $1,800. Then my half shafts were found to be warn and they gave me a great deal of only charging me for parts ($375). Either way, over 2k in fixes always sucks on a car that you hope doesn’t have a lot of maintenance costs as they suggest. I do have nearly 90k miles on it, so I consider that a win all things considered.
Sorry but you are correct. Cars break. It happens. Thanks for watching!
All things considered, $ 2,175 in repairs/maintenance given 90,000 miles is inexpensive compared to a typical ICE vehicle. Still, I can see how it's disappointing.
How many miles did you drive yourself? Bushings atee cheap.
@@Elaba_ That depends on how accessible parts are, doesn't it? I mean, for my old car, you're talking about maybe $50 worth of bushings. The ball joints would be another $30 per wheel if they have play in them and the CV axles about $50 each for a good quality replacement. Then maybe half a day of my time replacing that stuff, but on my 20 year old daily driver that stuff doesn't need replacing and I'm almost double the mileage you listed. And that's the advantage of having an aftermarket for parts, sometimes they even improve on the original parts.
But think of all the money you saved on engine oil changes 😂 😂 😂
Hi, I only have Toyota vehicles, but previously I have had other makes and had a Ford where the compressor failed. The recommendation since I have been buying Toyota is to always leave the A/C system on, even in winter so that the compressor is always used to remove humidity from the air, or in the summer to cool the car. The idea is that if the compressor is usually running an a very regular schedule, then it is less likely to fail. If you run the climate system in manual, you may inadvertently leave the compressor off for extended periods of time which can allow it to seize up as it ages - not sure if this applies to Tesla as they have the battery temperature management system. Since I have been leaving the A/C system on which engages the compressor, so far I have not had one fail on me. It also helps that Toyota uses high quality/spec parts for these critical components - things like the ball joints, starter, compressor and alternator so they don't usually fail prematurely. They can fail due to wear and age but that is the same for all manufacturers. For example on my 2011 highlander with 265,000 kms, we just replaced the lower control arms and proactively did the ball joints (they were still good) and it cost about $2000.00 CAD. It still has all of the other original parts like suspension and struts, and alternator, for example.
sounds like the heat pump/compressor had grenaded internally/mechanically. Usually when a compressor grenades it sends "shrapnel" or debris throughout the system and thats why the supermanifold and lines had to be replaced. if they had just replaced the compressor youd be sending debris throughout the system again and the new compressor would soon grenade as well
Thank You very much for sharing your experienced. The car had dropped from almost $59,900 in November 2023 down to $37,890 Tesla Y Long Range as of today. There was something wrong with the price when it had started out with. Price has dropped in a fast speed. The new Tesla Y is cheaper than to buy a used one in 2023. We went to Tesla Repair Center due to the wheel cracked less than 10 months (Tesla offer no warranty on tire and wheel). It cost us almost $400 for a new wheel rim. Tesla Repair Center when asked, said $255 an hour of labor on service. The car came with no spare tire. The only thing that tow truck will do, is hauling your Tesla away to nearest Shop Tire. It sure had ruined our trip. We wouldn't buy any vehicle from Tesla.
Thanks for sharing this even though it was hard to make. If it makes you feel better my BMW needed a new turbo charger at 57k miles, which cost $5,500. It wasn’t even a new turbo, it was reconditioned. Hopefully my 2023 Y has the newer equipment you now have.
I always sold my bmws before warranty ended. Great car until warranty is up.
@@krutillarI’d say that’s a solid statement for any luxury vehicle these days. My old Audi A8L cost me so much money when out of warranty that I regretted not selling it before it expired. Expensive lesson, for sure.
Dang. BMW's are defiantly expensive. I had a MINI Cooper S (owned by BMW) and it was pricy to repair.
Thanks for that add! Some people will probably use this video as proof(in their minds) that Tesla’s are money pits, when in actuality, as you described, and I’m easily aware, this can and has happened to all manner of cars, ICE cars included. My only issue in this video was the $700 towing estimate given by Tesla. Ouch! Than goodness he had AAA!
Two good takeaways from this video: Buy the extended warranty, and have a good roadside service contract with a high towing limit.
@@iowatesla ANY German car IS Expensive to repair!
I hope this guy lives his Tesla. My Camry hybrid has 160k miles and have only changed fluids.
Hybrid. Key word.
We have a 2007 Lexus SUV with 86,000 miles that we love and our 1997 Lexus sedan with a Toyota drive train is still going strong
I work for a windshield replacement company here in Nova Scotia and we have to put teslas into service mode to replace the windshield. It’s 4 hrs and two or three guys working on it to complete the job.
thx you so much for changing my mind on EV.
Not sure how to take that comment.
As a retired consulting Electrical and Mechanical engineer, I was a consultant to architects in the design and construction of buildings for 52 years. During that time I saw a boatload of heating and cooling system failures. My wife and I have a 2020 Model 3 which does not have the heat pump system. Due to my experience with systems, I prefer the non-heat pump, resistance-type heating in our Tesla. The old saying is " You can't buy
non-sh*t happening insurance anymore, they quit selling it" It appears to me that since you can afford two
Model Y's, you can afford to pay for a paltry 2 - 3 grand. Perhaps you might consider doing a video that discusses the amount of money you have saved having the Tesla vehicles and how much will be saved in the future. PN
great points. This guy is loaded with money and complaining about a 2 grand repair which he easily paid and won't miss it
I just got a new model Y 3 weeks ago, I love it so much! only thing is the insurance has gotten more expensive unless you use tesla that monitors your driving and thats around 150 month
Hertz is selling its entire Tesla fleet over the next few months. The reason is maintenance costs and parts availability. According to Hertz it equivalent body damage costs 4x as much in a Tesla vs GM, Ford or Chrysler. Parts were very hard to get from Tesla and they would be back ordered weeks to months. The cars sitting in lots waiting for parts could not earn money and time is money.
Also for anybody still thinking these Teslas are tempting… most of them were rented out to Uber and Lyft drivers, so they have more wear and tear than average used rentals.
Gas forever
Amen brother
My 2nd car a 29 year old Toyota never had a single failure in the 23 years I owned it as a daily driver. AC compressor still working fine. Yes, its 29 years old with only regular service.
Yes Toyotas are unbelievable! Why anyone would chose a EV over a nice Toyota or Lexus is baffling!
The batteries are extremely delicate and intricate, the slightest bash and they are buggered.
My audi had a faulty adblue tank fault. Automatically means you have to replace the whole tank. 2.1k UK pounds sterling! Traded ut in and bought a simple straight forward mazda 6 in its rugged simplicity. However, it is common knowledge that running your ac in auto setting is better for the compressor
It’s encouraging that replacing a complex system like that only took 4 hours of labor.
It took Tesla 10 hours to fix mine
Calendar time was 3 days.
I am so sorry that you had this problem. My self I would never buy one of those battery-powered cars they are to expensive and not dependable.
AC/heater problem is hardly at "battery" car problem. More of a Tesla problem.
Americans cant manufacture reliable cars.
I owned Model 3 previous and is currently driving the Y for 2 years now, so far so good. I agree, Tesla quality is below par and when BYD is "allowed " to come to North America, Elon will see his fortune goes down by a third, his dominance will no a thing of the past
A few cemetery candles taped to the center console. the crucifix cutouts in the lid also makes you a more cautious driver.
Good video & coverage of the process. Still sorry it happened, hopefully this is the last big repair for a while. 🤞
Hope so. I'm also hoping the views will help offset the cost. 🤪
Thank you so much , but now Im convinced Teslas are bad investment
Good content from the real world. Thanks. So many people will say EVs don't require maintenance as a selling point. They know nothing about these cars, lots of systems that require maintenance , repair and replacement in them.
You have to differentiate between maintenance and repairs. I don't think anyone believes Teslas will never need repairs.
You are a very nice guy. If I had to put $3,000 into my 3 year old, 57k mile vehicle, I’d be much crankier (pissed). I used to oversee a fleet of 20 Ford SUV’s that ran day and night. Never had to put that much money into any of these ICE vehicles under 100k miles.
Good to know. I am close to a service center, maybe 12 miles away. Plus, Southern California winter is quite mild. But, an extended warranty might be a really good idea, considering how expensive the repairs from Tesla seem to be.
That's a personal choice you will need to make for yourself. Thanks for watching!
Dealers or "sellers" make their money from the repair end of car sales. Not the selling of vehicles themselves.
This is going to be the problem with EVs, I just had a $ 3.5 K repair on my EV. I do have an extended warranty but it only covered half the cost. EVs are expensive to repair and you can only go to dealerships or the manufacturer. My car is running fine now but what’s next and how much will it cost after the warranty is off?
I test drove a tesla back in October when I was in West Palm Beach, FL. I live in western Kentucky. The charging systems are very sparse in my area. Nearest dealership is 140 miles away in Nashville, TN. I’m not sure about electric cars right now.
"What do I do?" A sledgehammer comes to mind.
Stupid is as stupid does, NO SYMPATHY!! My 2016 4runner hasn't cost me a dime since buying it new (aside from brake pads and oil changes), even the battery is original!! Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦
You can’t beat a four runner for reliability… probably the best car Toyota makes, as they say “ smart is a smart does and stupid is as stupid does” 😂. I finally got smart and traded in my 2009 Mercedes for a Toyota Highlander 2012 model two years ago …best thing I ever did. Cheers from southern calif… where there are more Teslas than you can shake a stick at in this town, and every time I see one , I laugh.
I think with any EV the extended warranty should be bought. I have seen the videos about the 60k battery replacement for the Ionic 5.
Extended warranty doesn't cover collision damage, which is what happened when those EVs drove over road debris.
It's up to the collision insurance to determine if the vehicle is worth repairing or writing off.
I’ve owned 3 VWs in my life before a Tesla. The 1st went down in an accident. The 2nd had tons of coolant issues and finally blew the water pump. The 3rd ran great until the AC went kaput and before I could fix that had issues with the vacuum hose lines and then the timing chain broke and exploded the engine.
I have the same MY Oct 2020. Flawless so far.
I’ll take note of the Auto Climate advice. Being in SoCal, it seems a lot of issues, regardless ICE or EV, come from running heaters.
In 2020 a Honda Civic would have cost you less and could still be driving it and get better MPG. Less cost to own!! My neighbor also purchased a Tesla in 2020 and traded in their Toyota Corolla that was a 2019. They looked at the 2020 Honda Civic but decided on the Tesla. The Tesla has been towed 7 times for various problems. The closest dealer is 90 minutes away. They got it back again last week running great and traded in for a 2023 Toyota Corolla!!!
If it makes you feel better, my CVT repair on my Altima was 7G.
Ouch. I do feel better. :) Thanks for watching!
so tesla is the nissan of evs? good to know.
@@trippplefive keep wishing. It’s a new year after all.
Bought my Tesla model Y long range with 67K used. The prior owner said that the suspension bushings were replaced at around a cost of 1500. After a lot of thinking I decided to go ahead and do a four year X care protection plan with a $500 deductible. granted in most cases, the house wins, but I plan to keep the car for a while and it’s just good peace of mind, maybe expensive peace of mind, but instances like this make me think that I did the right thing. my Tesla is built in October 20 20 and is listed as a model year 21. I would definitely buy another Tesla. In fact, I’d love to move to a performance model at some point thank you for the great content. Keep it up!
Thanks! I would like a performance Might as well at some point. Thanks for watching!
Thanks
Wow, I have recently seen tons of videos where people say electric cars have no related costs.
This is crazy, the heater goes out and the whole car is basically inoperable.
I have to conmend you for making the video. Some people would have swept this under the rug. You don't see ICE owner's making a video about a major part breaking. They make a big deal about EV's why, to bring them down. Yes, it was expensive, but not all parts last for ever. I am glad you honest.
I try very hard to be as honest as possible. Thanks for watching!
Because ICE cars don't break down like EV. Had my last car 10 years had over 500,000km and all I ever replaced was tyres, brake pads and windscreen wiper blades. EV are not supposed to have any problems and yet here we are. Guy does 1.2million miles in a Tesla, brags about it like he has accomplished something, tells you he had to replace the battery 4 times and motors 14 times. I know ICE taxis that do 1.5 million miles and only replaced 2 gear boxes.
Since starting to drive in 1994 I haven’t had a major breakdown on my cars or trucks. I got out of Nissan before I had two with CVT’s that were on their way out. I’m a Toyota loyal customer now, they haven’t been back to the dealer for anything. I do my own maintenance.
@@Bikes0420Not a troll. I have 2007 Toyota Camry XLE, 2018 Toyota Tundra Unlimited. I have two EV's also. I am not bias but I get sick of people throwing EV's under the bus.
I, literally, see dozens of RUclips videos on ICE vehicles and their problems filmed by the owners.
Busted compressor blades caused debris to to flood the lines, this happens to gas cars too and it gets real expensive real quick.
Yep. Thanks for watching!
Supermanifold cannot be flushed?
well... looks like I'm keeping my 2003 Volvo s60 with 346,700 miles. NEVER any unexpected repairs other than wear items. I did have a wiper motor go out on me but between eBay and some simple DIY skills- $44 with shipping and about 45 minutes work- I have a clear windshield when it rains. The good ole 5-cyl 2.4L ICE engine is still strong and the transmission shifts smooth. Anyway- good luck with your Tesla- I have no doubt EVs are 'the future' - but we are a long way off in terms of economic practicality. Regardless, thank you for making this video and sharing your experience and I hope your future Tesla ownership is event free. Drive safe everybody.
Great video thank you
No difference to my ICE car being out of warranty by 6 months, and the cam chain skipped causing head damage, total cost £2500. Two months later clutch failure. £400.😫. Good video.🙌👍
Yep. Cars break - EV or not. Thanks for watching!
What brand
cam chain can skip only if you skipped interval for changing it
@@dzonikgNot so I'm afraid - ask BMW N47 engine owners 😭
@@Joe-ud2hbFirst mistake is buying BMW.
My ICE car had a more expensive A/C repair than that, and only just barely out of warranty. And then just months later it needed an engine management computer too. Yeah it hurts.
Unfortunately sh1t happens.
Subscribed.. thanks for sharing the Auto mode recommendation.
Good for you my friend, hope it works out for you.
Y'all are sitting around feeling sorry for this guy, while I'm taking a moment to appreciate the service mode detail this guy got on his own screen. Got to appreciate the little things people.
@@classics7636only way you end up on a video like this is because you’re interested in EVs
I think so too @@diz354