The Day Metallica Came to Church - Ufonic Interview
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- Опубликовано: 7 янв 2011
- Pastor John Van Sloten shares how his first book, "The Day Metallica came to Church; searching for the everywhere God in everything" came to be written.
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a Christian and loving metal music being a Christian is about having a personal relationship with God not about what everyone else thinks
Amen! Jesus Christ is my savior and been a long time metal head!
Amen Brother, im a Catholic, and love almost all metal, especially 80's thrash.
I agree with you man. I love many different kinds of metal, Heavy, Thrash, Death, Black, Doom, etc. I know there are a lot of bands I listen to that speak negative things about God and speak positive about the Devil but that doesn't change my Faith and it never will
Yeah that's the truth I mean only one thing it's not all churches 50% and the other 50 people judge the other 50 it ant the bible says love one another and don't judge I am the judge u don't have the right help the ones in needed if the don't do that than we are not Christian I know a lot of people will get mad but it's the truth
HELLYEAH 1313 I completely agree. I listen to bands like Mayhem, Deicide, Emperor, etc. I’ve always been nervous about discussing my music tastes with anyone at church.
I mean Creeping Death is literally about the Plagues of Egypt so if he didn't see the biblical connection we have a problem
John McLellan how did that song disrespect the Bible or Christianity in any way?
Who's "we" ?
AGS 15 it doesn't he's just saying that the song is based on stories in the bible in exodus and if the preacher was looking for any biblical references in their songs that one was to obvious to miss
Creeping Death was inspired by a scene in the 1956 movie The Ten Commandments.
He didn't seem to point out that particular song but it does have a spot on biblical connection.
This pastor's a pretty good guy.
A pee brain with good intent I guess.
😎
Notice how he never said wether or not Metallica believes in Jesus?
It is quite apparent that this pastor was soooo very easily seduced by satan's deceptions. This pastor should read the entire Holy Bible in more depth and with better understanding. God does have perfect love and also perfect hate.
I have reasons to suspect that this pastor and his 'church' are lukewarm if not cold. They have been infiltrated_they are lost and scattered.
@@sylencecured77 Its not like he's been seduced and transformed into this proverbial renegade rebel metal-head. He is merely acknowledging that human beings are here to not judge one another and to be open minded to the point of at least not being judgemental,even if what one does for they're own artistic interests or musical carear is personally not you're cup of tea. He states biblically that God gave people creative artistic based talents,and what they choose as far as music should be respected as being they're God Given talent and for them to not be judged because they're music doesn't fit a criteria narrative requirement as sought appropriate for a particular religious based narrative of mere fellow humans,who unfortunately, tend to do so in a critical hypocrisy based playing God type of judgemental approach.
I am a hardcore Christian as I am a hardcore Metallica fan and I love this video
Me too.
"hardcore" Christian?Like you REALLY like Jesus and his dad?
@@Ecclesiastes11718 LMAOOO
HAIL SATAN
Me too been playing metal guitar for 40 years
It's so refreshing that this wasn't another person bashing Metallica (or rock/metal in general). Regardless of your opinion on Christianity, Metallica, or this pastor's motives, it's pretty awesome that he at least finds positives in two things that have, historically, been opposed to each other. Christians need to be more like this guy. Try to find God in everything rather than inserting Satan (I'm looking at you, WBC!). Kudos to this guy.
God is love turn to him he can save you from the devil
As a Christian, I agree with you :)
It is people who destroy Christianity, not God. Yes there are what people call hyocrites(s). What they are is imperfect--and fail to recognize it. As Alice Cooper said-if you are a saint, a perfect person--you are in! No need to go to church. Me I am so far from perfect and God knows it and I can be forgiven. If people listen, you can find God everywhere. So before bashing, one should actually listen. On a lighter note, doesnt everyone know "God gave rock'n'roll to you".
I guess i am more like this guy. In my expereince the people who bash heavy metal for being satanic or anti god is a very loud, vocal minority. Are they a problem? Yes. SHould we ignore them? no.
I've grown up in a very Christianity religious home and I consider myself to be very religious, but that doesn't mean I can't listen to metal. Obviously there are some metal songs or even bands as a whole that I won't listen to, but that's because they are directly attacking my religion. But I will not bash all metal. Metal is a great outlet and music that should be enjoyed by everyone.
This man is much more understanding than my pastor growing up.
@I got my 3rd 👁 on you I just said he is more understanding. I don't believe in god, jesus, allah or any supreme being so these lyrics don't scare, frighten or upset me.
No kidding...
this is amazing. i adore this pastor
Only God has to be adored(for a christian).
He really put his focus on the band, and got something special out of it. So good
This is awesome ! This is how all people/pastors should be ! Just understanding and actually caring about someone no matter the music, lyrics, or how a person was/is.
Thank you, pastor. Not only a man of faith but also depth and open-mindedness.
Sir, you are such a positive guy
I am a Christian and my favorite band has been mettallica for 25 years . This is awesome
Lesley damron morell me too!!!
if metallica was my favorite band then i would have at least spelled it right
Same with here brother, I've been a Christian for decades now and still love heavy rock and metal music, Metallica is no expectation.
@@dantasticmania8728 exception*
@@airpodz4438 lol if i wasnt talking to you, why do you care? You are a little contemptuous bitch, go away !
Beautiful. Thank you for honoring everyone.
God bless this Pastor and all metalica, help them see the light, Amen
Dan Bailey I think James is catholic or something like that. But the rest of them are atheists I'm pretty sure
Big Daddy Barb I'm late, but Kirk is a Buddhist.
LOL, Metallica is god
Dave Mustaine became a Christian he was with Metallica and formed megadeth so it's possible.
Amen
next episode... The day Cannible Corpse came to church.
BlitzedPig Lmfao
Next Episode... The day Ghost came to church.
Next episode... the day behemoth came to church, and then burned it down.
ClaytonBigsby Next episode the day that Peter Steele came to church after returning from the dead...
Jesse Johan Peter Steele IS awesome!!!
God has blessed me tremendously through Metallica’s music. God used it to grow a love of guitar in me that birthed a 20 year career in music ministry. Now my little ones love Metallica and debate the lyrics with me while we use it as launch points for deeper discussions. This is a phenomenal band and I pray Hatfield and the other guys know Christ and His forgiveness forever. Thanks for sharing this.
Thumbs up if you're Christian and you love Metallica. \m/,
Thumbs Up! Here's a link to a video I did where I did my own personal Ranking of each Metallica Album.: ruclips.net/video/jyECmg0UmOw/видео.html
Im christian and i love metallica at first hearing many years ago.more than 20 years now. Im from Albania.
@@denisbegaj5970 Cool. ...Where's Albania?
multijamesbondfan It borders on the Adriatic
Amen
I came into this video thinking this was gonna be another Metallica bashing video but I was pleasantly surprised
"The God That Failed"
Pride you took
Pride you feel
Pride that you felt when you'd kneel
Not the word
Not the love
Not what you thought from above
It feeds
It grows
It clouds all that you will know
Deceit
Deceive
Decide just what you believe
I see faith in your eyes
Never you hear the discouraging lies
I hear faith in your cries
Broken is the promise, betrayal
The healing hand held back by the deepened nail
Follow the god that failed
Find your peace
Find your say
Find the smooth road on your way
Trust you gave
A child to save
Left you cold and him in grave
It feeds
It grows
It clouds all that you will know
Deceit
Deceive
Decide just what you believe
I see faith in your eyes
Never you hear the discouraging lies
I hear faith in your cries
Broken is the promise, betrayal
The healing hand held back by the deepened nail
Follow the god that failed
I see faith in your eyes
Broken is the promise, betrayal
The healing hand held back by the deepened nail
Follow the god that failed
Pride you took
Pride you feel
Pride that you felt when you'd kneel
Trust you gave
A child to save
Left you cold and him in grave
I see faith in your eyes
Never you hear the discouraging lies
I hear faith in your cries
Broken is the promise, betrayal
The healing hand held back by deepened nail
Follow the god that failed
Follow the god that failed
Broken is the promise
Betrayal
Betrayal
John Walsh The song is about Jame's mother dying from cancer because she believed that God would heal her cancer that she didn't want to go to any Doctor but then she ended up dying so instead of James drinking his way out of it he made a song about it.
John Walsh a better example would be 'holier than thou'
Or Leper Messiah, about those TV priests scamming people into insanity for loads of money.
Spineless from the start,
sucked into the part
Circus comes to town,
you play the lead clown
Please, please
Spreading his disease,
living by his story
Knees, knees
Falling to your knees,
suffer for his glory,
You will
Time for lust, time for lie
Time to kiss your life goodbye
Send me money, send me green
Heaven you will meet
Make a contribution
And you'll get a better seat
Bow to Leper Messiah!
Marvel at his tricks,
need your Sunday fix
Blind devotion came,
rotting your brain
Chain, chain
Join the endless chain,
taken by his glamor
Fame, fame
Infection is the game,
stinking drunk with power
We see
Time for lust, time for lie
Time to kiss your life goodbye
Send me money, send me green
Heaven you will meet
Make a contribution
And you'll get the better seat
Bow to Leper Messiah!
Witchery, weakening
Sees the sheep are gathering
Set the trap, hypnotize
Now you follow
Time for lust, time for lie
Time to kiss your life goodbye
Send me money, send me green
Heaven you will meet
Make a contribution
And you'll get the better seat
Lie! Lie! Lie! Lie!
Lie! Lie! Lie! Liiiee!
Is there any words in those lyrics that aren't true?
John Walsh fuckin right brother, was gonna write the exact same thing but you beat me to it, bless you and yours and rock the WORLD.
we all struggling with Life, and the evil that is condemning it, But when you look for look you will find him, in everything and every situation, this pastor, used a practical approached to something many people wont allow them selves to understand"Metal Music"
For fifty years, heavy metal bands have delved into themes of good and evil, God and Satan, rage and forgiveness, intoxication and sobriety, injustice and righteousness, suffering and relief - all the same themes that run throughout the Bible. I'm glad that some pastors are taking notice. Christian since age 9, metalhead since age 16. I turn 59 this summer and I'm still rocking.
I am a Catholic and I Love METAL \m/
Me to JESUS SAVES OR GOD HATES US ALL
God is Good
+doug bulldog All the time
+doug bulldog Amen.
doug bulldog all the time
Amen brother
So is slayer
creeping death is the best example of a metallica song. its basically a bible story in a song and its a fantastic song
Interesting. It is cool this guy and MetallicA had this experience. It does not surprise me they did- I do not think religious folks hate MetallicA and I do not think James and the boys hate religious folks.
This is wonderful. Thank you, pastor, for your reaching out to people who are broken and may not be close to our Lord.
Amen! Love it! I was led here after watchin a recent Metallica concert where James Hetfield references being "blessed" and referencing the fact that the outdoor concert was still lit by natural light and referencing the Lord's handiwork. Great stuff. Jesus is real and "cooler" than any band member or movie star (lol). God bless!
Thank you sooooo much for this video. I was into Motley Crue at the time, but looking back, brokeness is a common theme with all of those rock stars, and some of them lived to tell about it!
I'm a church band leader and we PLAYED an unplugged version of Until It Sleeps as the opening song of our Good Friday Service 2 years ago \m/ \m/
I played in metal bands for almost 25 years. This pastor, though a bit more suburbanite than I am (I'd be surprised if he went to see Slayer for his 40th bday party like I did), is speaking my language. He nails the prevenient grace worldview. His distinction between being "relevant" and "relevatory" kicks ass!
Loved this! Thank you for having an open mind about Metallica and their music. Very refreshing to see this, and not automatically stereotyping.
It's nice that he was open minded enough to attend a show, and see the general condition of mankind that applies to us all. It's nice to have dialog.
From one Pastor to another I commend you. Well done.
Never judge a book by its cover.. When someone walks into a church there usually is a reason behind it
God bless you!
This is so awesome!!!!
I already had so much respect for the guys of Metallica.... that respect just tripled in size. I always knew there was a much deeper meaning to each song than what it implies literally, but this is finally some proof to confirm my beliefs 100%. I love you guys, Lars, James, Kirk and Rob/Jason/Cliff... you guys are all truely amazing in your own ways. \m/
Awesome thanks for sharing!
This is amazing. Love it!!
Great video. New time I'm in Calgary I´ll visit your church. Its good to know religion is connecting with now days reality and discussing matters important for the new generations.
greetings from Ecuador.
Thanks for having an open mind, pastor!
Can you preach on Gorgoroth? Im nearly 100% sure you will find great stuff for them.
Karnage Au He'dend up on the plains of Gorgoroth in Mordor.
I laughed super hard at this ! Gaahl would probably make this guy defecate himself
This is so beautiful , no words
He should talk about how Brian "Head" Welch was on "The Hour of Power". That was an awesome testimony. =D
God bless you brother!
Kirk's father abused him?! Never heard about that.
He probably read about Dave Mustaine's dad.
Nah the story is definitely Kirk's. I can recall reading it when I first started getting into Metallica. Kirk had a pretty shitty home life.
Go and listen to the song Harvest of Sorrow off And Justice For All, that song is about Kirk's life growing up as a kid.
Youssef Youssef that's the first I heard about this also
Ive been saved for about 9 years now and have listened metal most of my life. I'm 34 now and I realised that knowing God hates sin, alot of metal deals with social, political, and psychological wrongs or (brokenness of the world) if you will. I think the difference between good and bad music is music that hates sin and blatant malice towards anything that is good. I'll take the music that hates sin thank you. Praise The Lord God is Good! 👍❤️😎😄😃
This guy is super awesome. I wish the best for him and his loved ones.
Oi tere! :)
What a cool and non-judgemental Pastor! Awesome!
Ok, now go study Mayhem.
Lol 😂
If he dont wanna get burnt 😂
Lmao 🤣
😅🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
@clipsryan What unproven claims are you referring to?
The analogy still stands. An alcoholic may be in denial of their alcoholism in the same way that a sinner may be in denial of their sin. They think that what they are doing is just fine, and that they aren't causing anyone, including themselves any harm. To tell someone who believes this that what they are doing is wrong, they are going to argue with you and say that they aren't alcoholics, but what they are doing is wrong. same with sin.
Great interview.
thank you jesus this is the best thing i've heard all month thank you lord the truth came out
This is awesome! That’s how you do it right there.
awesome
Cliff Burton was very interested in what Billy Graham was preaching. His sister said that he would watch him every Sunday.
GREAT VIDEO !!! 👍🤘🎸🎼🎵🎤🎙️🙏
I'm just gonna end the whole religion debate here.
James-christian (science)
Lars - atheist I have heard this enough times but I would like to know where he has stated it.
Dave mustaine - Christian (he still counts)
Ron - idk
Cliff- Christian
Kirk-budist
Jason- idk
Robert- Christian? I put the mark since I know he has a religious family since in a interview he stated when him and his friend were listening to led zeppelin stair way to heaven backwards his grandma started praying I know he has a religion and we have enough saying he's a christian.
Anyone who says metal is satanic fails to know this stuff, also the fact that I can name almost every Christian metal musician out there
ok,name them!
James - christian? That's bullshit!
Tourniquet, Believer, Sacrament, Seventh Angel, The Moshketeers, The Crucified, Ultimatum, Vengeance Rising, Deliverance, Pylon, Theocracy, Mortification, The Sacrificed, Saint.
Paperback Writer ....Do some research. James does in fact have a belief in God.
@clipsryan It is an act of love when you tell your friend that their alcoholism is hurting them and that they will die if they quit drinking and get help. If you didn't love them, you wouldn't care if they killed themselves with alcohol. They may hate you, call you names, curse you, & may even quit being your friend for sharing this truth with them, but it is still the loving thing to tell them the truth. The same is true when a Christian shares the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ with you
I like this guy a lot. instead of just bashing without knowing, he looked into it. More people should take this attitude
Thank you very much. I don't mind at all. I'm glad you are excited for Waiting in Darkness! God bless my friend.
Metallica is so nice to play songs at church god bless you Metallica and megadeth
You gotta be kidding.
Metallica aren't the only ones who have referred to the bible. AC/DC is another example, in fact at least half of their discography is filled with bible references. But AC/DC and Metallica are not alone. Skillet is another one.
Shawn Bailey Skillet have said themselves that they are a christian band
Shawn Bailey Dude AC/DC is all about Hell. What are you talking about?
MAIDEN
This is so awesome. I love it! You can be a Christian, and still listen to heavy metal music. I believe in God and I accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior. I'm also a huge fan of heavy metal music. In fact Dio is my favorite band and my favorite singer!
This loves the music of Metallica
wow this is an amazing video
I very much agree with you sir
And this interview I’m just hearing about this now and been 12 years. 😑
Metallica makes a big powerful sound. God is a big powerful force within the universe. Definite emotional connection.
Glory be to Our Father & Glory be to Hard Rock & Heavy Metal! 🤘🏻🎶 Our debut album brings glory to both!
Sign of satan. Careful
Awesome I love it I knew you can't go to hell for listing to metallica GOD made metallica for a reason GOD bless you
What?? I was at this concert! Haha awesome
I am a Christian and I listen to metal music. I see no contradiction.
Someone's never heard "The God that Failed"
It's ok to express that God is not offended if someone feels that way
That’s against Christian Scientists not Christianity as a whole.
The pastor clearly speaks in this interview about Hetfields mothers battle with cancer and the challenges faced with the Christian Science belief. It would be silly to pretend this well-informed pastor would’ve ignored that, when he’s clearly researched things others have not.
I like this, and I respect the pastor and Metallica. I’m a Christian, a presuppositional apologist and a metal head. The Bible tells us we are all created in Gods image, so to pretend there is not creative goodness in our existence is simply ignorant.
These facts , I didn't know until right now 2018 ,,,, I'm not shocked ,, we all go through something good or bad
I like this pastor
"Learn From Me for I Am Meek and Humble of Heart" Mt 11,29
I like this guy, he’s humble
Im not religious at all but this is pretty great
Hey Vsauce Robbery Here Me to
Aw, I’m glad that you are open to this subject.If you find it in your heart to go to a Christian church you really should:).It Can change your life completely when you build a personal relationship with Jesus.If you believe in him and pray to him you can live eternal life in heaven !
Im sorry for the long paragraphs 😬, but one day we will all face judgement day!We have all sinned and therefore have been charged guilty.The only thing that can save us is Jesus Christ and what he did for us on that cross.If we don’t believe in him and repent then we would all go to the lake of fire !:/ But I have the greatest news... if you repeat this prayer out loud and wholeheartedly you can live eternal life in peace! Ok so here is the prayer “Heavenly Father, thank you for your mercy and for sending your one true son to die on the cross for my sins.I confess, I have broken your commandments and I ask for forgiveness.I accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior and accept him into my heart.I recognize that I didn’t earn my salvation through works but only through Jesus.Thank you for hearing me out and I will try my best to change for you and serve you, Amen.” I really hope you did this prayer, god bless you !!💙
What song is rocking in the background while he is talking??
anyone know what song is playing in the background of this video?
He’s actually open minded this is how people should be to metal
Where can we watch the actual sermon?
Great story and innovative pastor
Metal is for everyone
stronger than the law
our band of steel eternally
a union of the strong.
Metal is for everyone
the sound is made from steel
bound for pride and victory
the law of right and wrong.
'Cause metal is for everyone.
Faith is personal and I believe you can listen to music or watch movies that do not directly have a Christian origin and be able to find the positives. I'm a fan of different superhero movies and I'll find myself thinking on what I might do if I had 'powers'. I've also made the connection between the Spider-Man quote "with great power comes great responsibility" that is almost directly Luke 12:48.
Pastor, very nice...
Bravo!! Bravo!!
Jump in the Fire
Metallica
Down in the depths of my fiery home
The summons bell will chime
Tempting you and all the Earth
To join our sinful kind
There is a job to be done and I'm the one
You people make me do it
Now it is time for your fate and I won't hesitate
To pull you down into this pit
So come on
Jump in the fire
So come on
Jump in the fire
With hell in my eyes and with death in my veins
The end is closing in
Feeding on the minds of man
And from their souls within
My disciples all shout to search out
And they always shall obey
Follow me now my child not the meek or the mild
But do just as I say
So come on
Jump in the fire
So come on
Jump in the fire
Jump by your will or be taken by force
I'll get you either way
Trying to keep the hell fire lit
I am stalking you as prey
Living your life as me I am you you see
There is part of me in everyone
So reach down grab my hand walk with me through the land
Come home where you belong
So come on
Jump in the fire
So come on
Jump in the fire
This guy is awesome!
Seems like a very decent guy, asking the right questions about the impact of other's life events and I'm sure he's a reassuring presence for people who know him. Choosing to associate his particular religious ideas with a musical experience is very much his choice, but I think it's wrong to 'brand' it as something belonging to the Christian faith. People have been moved by the power of music - and learned to forgive - long before Christian ideas. And they continue to do so now, in parts of the world which have no idea about (and no need for) the Christian faith.
We have a mis-communication here. I meant anyone at Sanctuary or SW sharing the video with Ulrich and Co. I am more than aware that WiD is SW, and that SS is assisting in the production of said work. Perhaps the folks at Metallica need some counseling from Alice (as in Cooper) as did Mustaine and Co. Time for the real "angry prophets" to step up, and start instructing the "young ones." I consider Mustaine a modern day Jeremiah. It would be so cool, for Hetfield and Co. to follow suit.
God Bless Metallica! And what's that song is that on the background!
Cool Pastor ! He gets it.
Amen!🤘
Thats ok its sounded awsome i like it and the book it awsome to i recommend it for people to read!
love it how metallica write songs like the god that failed and lepper mesiah
Being that we learn that Ulrich has a genuine interest in New Hope, has anyone shared your latest video (Waiting in Darkness) with Ulrich and Co.? You probably have. But I was just curious. Amazing developments occurring of late. Ellefson studying to be a Lutheran pastor, and now this with Metallica? Are mountains about to be moved? The next we hear, is that the Big Four, are all converted, and on a ministry tour. Strangers things have happened in history.
I'm wondering which member of Metallica had an abusive father. Anyway, this preacher hasn't been bashing Metallica, so I'm glad for that.
Nice to see someone looking for positives in something where the negatives are usually focused on.
Put the time and effort in and it's possible to read anything out of anything, which is where metals reputation comes from.
It's angsty, but the typical metal musician or fan is just a person; zero in the way of Satanism or any other such nonsense. Yes, there's a segment that thrives on shock, but that's the way of the world. It sells to certain audiences.
Then there's the fact metal lyrics are often a lot more metaphorical and analogical than typical "easy listening" stuff.
Those inclined love to deliberately misinterpret them.
So, can the preacher explain the lyric "The healing hand held back by the deepened nail, Follow the God that failed"?
Nothing about Christ sacrifice was or is a failure.
He tip toes around and skirts repentance.