Great video, I live in Central Florida also for 36yrs(since I was 5) I've been a fan of Metallica for at least 30yrs and yes James's mother and father were both Christian scientist and would not go to a hospital or any doctor for her cancer. The experience among others were really hard on James and his relationship with his dad, you should also check out the song "Mama said" and definitely the live version from 1996 where he plays it solo it is amazing\m/
Hey pastor Rob. Love the videos and the content you create as a whole. I'd love to see a reaction to Dear Agony or Give Me A Sign by Breaking Benjamin. Both songs cover faith and dealing with some sort of loss, I'd greatly appreciate it! Keep being awesome.
@@RussShawTV I've never deleted or managed a comment on this channel. It must be getting caught in the youtube filter and needs to be manually approved. I have 16k comments in that section, both good and bad. I quit reading them because the majority are hateful and mean toward me and my son. I don't know what "pray the gay away is" so I can't comment on any connections.
The song is about James mother passing away since his mom was a believer of Christian science so they didn't believe in taking medicine so when she had cancer she didn't take any medicine.
This sort of fundamentalism is where all religions lose me. Not just Christians, but others as well. And that worries me as someone who grew up Catholic. In fact in my age 40+ life (I'm 46 now) I have grown quit critical of religion the more I learn about it and other institutions. When I learned that the Catholic Church along with the International Red Cross helped Nazi Officers escape southern Italy after the fall of Germany in 1945, I'm like damn...hard for me to take the self righteous teachings of the church seriously when you're aiding Nazis escape justice.
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It’s insane to think how fast James had to grow up. Lost his mom and dad, and later one of his best friends. Lead him to drinking his anger and sadness away. Put his emotion into music and live shows for sure.
arglbargl I did watch it he has another whole aspect to him that’s bright and positively childish, like his passion with choppers and pre 70’s cars, and his love for his kids and band, but I was referring to his life from the early 80’s to late black album era. he has spoken of that dark time a lot.
A Christian pastor that thinks about the writer's perspective instead of drowning us with quotes from the Bible in attempt to convince us that real Christianity is the way and that you are wrong... The Bible is writtem to common men, by common men, meant to be understood by common men - this is the truth right here. You are supposed to be a thinking rational creature, regardless of what "real and only true faith" you are born under.
Are you kidding? The Bible was with held from the comon man for centuries until Bede translated it into English. The church deliberately withheld understanding of the Bible as method of control. You're standpoint is anachronistic at best
@@Dementat the catholic church did this a very long time ago… that’s why we have other branches of the church that are outside the pope who want to spread the word to as many as possible rather than use it to build power
@@henryyancey1117 no it did it for more of its history than it didn't. I grew up in Jarrow, my parish was St. Peter's where Bede was a monk I know my history on this. Christianity has only allowed the common man to connect to scripture recently in its history. Even once Bede translated it it took centuries for mass and liturgies to be in anything other than Latin which was withheld from those without an formal education which in itself was controlled by the Church. Oxford, Cambridge et.al were founded as and still are (technically) religious organizations.
@@emanueleragazzi341 Jesus has never healed anyone. He's a myth. And if he ever did exist, he was a mortal man like you and me. You can't "pray away" an illness, because the supernatural does not exist.
As I recall from James’s Rolling Stone interview this song is about that case in the late 80’s where the Christian Scientist parents refused medical care for a child with a blocked intestine, and the child died in a horrifying way. The parents were prosecuted and Hetfield, having grown up in this environment, was furious that these parents allowed their child to die. It brought back all sorts of damage for him.
@@julianortiz4151 I haven't seen this interview but I always thought it was his mother who died from cancer after refusing treatment because she thought god would heal her. Edit: I never truly listened to the lyrics but knew that story, I just got to the "him in grave" line and now I believe the child story more
Doesnt have to be about hatred. I just love this channel and metallica is my favourite band so id appreciate ANY metallica song that involves God in any sense 😅
James' wording, "pride that you felt when you kneel" is so brilliant. Many religious people forget that pride is one sin that God hates the most. Pride blinds people. People who believe to be 'the chosen ones' or 'the true believers' are the ones who do attrocities. Instead of staying in God's path, they become the very thing that God hates.
@@giovannicella7817 The betrayal, I think, is in reference to how James' mother refused modern medicine because she believed (and had been told by her church I think) that god would cure her cancer. And that if it wasn't working, she just needed to pray more and stop listening to people around her. This, obviously, led to her death, which happened when James was still young (around 15 I think), and left James without either of his parents. So I think he's talking about how the church betrayed his mother.
The clicking sound at 7:12 that he asks “is that a maraca?” Is James cocking a gun into the microphone. I think it was either a shotgun or a lever action rifle. I forget which
Danny Hayson thanks.. I remember watching a year and a half in the life after school back in the 90’s.. I probably watched it and the box set stuff a 100 times. I was a little Metallica nerd... haha
I’m not a Christian but I watch your videos it’s so awesome seeing you liking these songs and not judging them like “most Christians” keep up the great videos
As a Catholic, I can proudly say you are spot on. There is a story that relates to this: a flood was coming, and the man trapped inside his house kept praying for salvation. Eventually he died, and was angry with god. God responded with, I sent you warnings on the radio and tv. I sent you neighbors with cars. I sent you a boat, when the water rose. I sent you a helicopter, when the water got higher. What else could I have done for you? God works, and helps us in many ways. It's up to us, to take action.
YEP! I think I'm just a year or so younger than you. I remember riding on "Dante's Inferno", "Polar Express", and "Abominable Snowman", similar rides I'm sure. I remember JAMMING THE F out at 12 years old to "Head Like a Hole" by Nine Inch Nails and singing along -- it was one of the first CDs I ever bought, and hearing it on a ride I felt so cool.
When James's backstory is included it's pretty much on the nose... the god that failed is the concept of God the Christian Scientists are utilizing, and it destroyed his childhood. Adding my voice to the numbers requesting Leper Messiah... Metallica basically sang Jim Bakker's story, or you can point to older references like A Face In The Crowd or The Night Of The Hunter (1955 film, actually based on the true story of Harry Powers, the rest I'll leave to you and Wikipedia)
I always understood the lyric "the healing hand held back by the deepened nail" like this... Faith is the deepened nail and the healing hand is the surgeon/doctor. So his mothers faith/beliefs held back the doctor's ability to heal.
I honestly can't hear it. I tried to find it and I just can't hear it. It kinda bums me out cause I actually own a Winchester 1873 and I wanted to see if I could tell if that's what it was. 😭😂
Matthew Balusek if you quickly skim through the making of the black album (maybe a quarter or half way through) you can see James with the rifle. I’ve seen it multiple times but I seriously can’t tell what kind it is!
Also in an interview James talks about how he felt alienated in school when it was time for health class and he had to leave the room because he wasn’t allowed to learn about human body
As a religious person, I've always struggled with this song, I'm a Metallica fan but I couldn't listen to this song without feeling guilty.. Thank you for clearing this, it was very helpful.. God bless you
The fact that listening to a song makes you feel guilty should make you question your religion. Where is the guilt really coming from? Who taught it to you?
@@HkLY45 As a firm Christian, we aren't taught the guilt (at least in the church that I go to, I know there are many variations of Christianity across the world) but because it is something that we believe in our hearts and then a song that we hear from a band that we love says something that is pretty askew from our views, we feel bad for liking it because it makes us feel like we're straying from the path of God.
It's about his mother and Christian science in general. There's also parts of the lyrics referring to a case where the parents, Christian scientists, would not let the doctors help out a young child who was sick. They believed in praying and their faith in God will heal the child. So the lyric trust you gave, a child to save, left you cold and him in grave is in reference to that. They had the belief that their 'god' would heal, so when the child died it left them cold with the thought their god had failed while the child was in the grave. Healing hand held back by the deepened nail is a reference to the healing hand (doctors) held back by the religious beliefs (deepened nail (on the cross)) so to speak. Its a brilliant song and by far my favourite in terms of lyrical context of any metallica song.
The part of talking about the child, it is James itself. She died (A Cold dead body) and he was mourning at her grave. He repeats that same thought in Mama Said
“From their 1991 self titled album, the black album” the comma helps it make sense. Since it is called both he’s not wrong. The self titled part already let’s you know it’s titled Metallica, the second being what people call it.
That's how this channel started. I posted a video for my students and the video went crazy. Our students have no one else helping them navigate through all the lies and misinformation.
@Edward The Booble that metal and world music is evil. As Christian you have to read the lyrics there are bad metal or pop music is important to see what music you consume
"The snake thing in the corner" is from the US Army Drill Instructor flag that says "Don't Tread On Me" though it originally was the flag of the Continental Marines in 1775 and is also now used by the US Navy as the emblem for the "War on Terror" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsden_flag
I'm a lifelong Christian and a lifelong metal fan. I came across your videos by chance and I love the way you analyze the songs and use the lyrics to help witness to others bout Christ. That's actually really cool.
Christian Science and the "fire and brimstone" style gospel of the early 20th century turned a lot of people away from Christ. My grandparents experienced these practices firsthand and essentially became atheists because of it. Modern day churches that focus on the love of God rather than on the punishment of hell are the only real way to bring people to the gospel. Trying to convert people using fear tactics is a losing effort.
@@hxcnoel You are correct as a Christian we are to show love and Grace to ppl not fear that is The Devils tool, i myself have been fear preached to and it never gave me roots of love/a foundation from where to grow since it was only based in fear. So no that is def not The way, The Bible says "The goodness of God leads men to repentance" not fear nowhere does it say fear (fear of God is something Else). When i encountered later in Life The love of God i was completely changed and healed and grew roots of love and now im overjoyed and walk after Jesus in love not thru fear and obligation but as a new man a new creation.
I’m glad you highlighted the songs focus on the Cult false god the song is referring to. As a Christian and a metal fan, this song is the hardest to explain to others. Thanks for the great videos!
@My Perspective he is speaking about Christian science (his mother belonged to) she refused treatment for cancer due to her beliefs he has talked about how this song is about religion and god in interviews
The ‘maracas’ was actually a rifle, like a Winchester rifle. It was in the Year and A Half In The Life Of Metallica documentary of when they were recording the album. They used a lot of different sounds for the songs and it’s inventive and really cool
Brings me back to 91 as a Freshman in College. The black album was the long awaited (by those year's standards) follow-up to Justice for All. I just remember that all the other Big 7 bands released at least 2 albums while I was in High School while Metallica had only released one. Megadeth with So Far, So Good and Rust in Piece. Slayer with South of Heaven and Seasons of the Abyss, Anthrax with State of Euphoria and Persistence of Time. And even OverKill with Taking Over, Under the Influence, and Years of Decay. Exodus with Fabulous Disaster and Impact is Imminent. Testament with Legacy, New World Order, Practice What you Preach, and Souls of Black.
I'm guessing your just thinking about music back in the day. I'm not being rude, but I don't know if you were making a point or I missed it. I was a metal head back in the day and I'm younger than you, "the big four" had previous albums that were better than the ones you mentioned. I like what you like but think (my opinion) the older stuff was better. It's like a bon vs. Brian argument, it's subjective
“...the healing hand held back by the deepened nail...” I always thought it was referring to the hand(s) of Christ being nailed to the cross, as if that could keep him from healing.
Which God? What God? What, exactly, do you mean by "God"? Where is He? What is He doing? Why doesn`t He answer prayers or intervene...ever? What evidence is there to prove there even is a God to be dead. “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?” ― Epicurus
@Thomas Jefferson What are you asking? I never said anything like that! I asked simple questions; why didn`t you answer them? The fact that you can`t answer them is proof that there is no God, whatsoever.
Not gonna lie im not too religious, but I grew up in church. And honestly your dissection of this song makes the most sense out of anybody else's opinions on it. Good stuff. 👍
By the way... this song is a litmus test. Or, rather, a persons's consideration of this song is a litmus test on how willing they are to think and perhaps change their minds when provided with new information. A religious thinker will take it on the surface and consider it heretical. Dig, and the false god concept appears. Dig even deeper to the writer's backstory, and it's obvious that it's little to do with Christianity at all, and all about the 'false prophets' that wronged them. But does the original consideration stick, or is a mind changed? That's the test.
@saturnaliamiracle Certainly as an educated person, you would have to agree that one example does not set the precedent. His point isn't necessarily that religious people are uneducated, it's that they are more likely to experience a knee-jerk reaction to any medium that criticizes god. Listing your credentials doesn't make your argument any better, as again, one example cannot upend the precedent. If you are as educated as you claim to be, surely you would try to make a logical argument rather than flippantly insulting him.
@saturnaliamiracle Nice appeal to authority, but your admission that you believe in fairytales removes any credibility you were hoping to build with your "I'm a scientist" nonsense.
I just learned something new from your post I listened to Metallica for years but this song sat wrong with me but never knew about his mother. Thanks for bringing truth and light on the context of the song!
I’m so stoked to have come across this channel. I have many songs I loved before becoming a Christian. However, I’m having a hard time with which ones are still acceptable to listen. Ironically this is one. I stopped listening to it for years. I loved it. Thank you for allowing me to listen to it again. I have another one I love but don’t listen to as much or feel convicted when I do. Alice In Chains-Man in the Box. Please react to this one.
I'm pretty sure when James says: "Trust you gave, a child to save Left you cold and him in grave" hes talking about all the children who have died over the years because of idiotic cult beliefs like how the Jehovah's Witnesses say taking a blood transfusion is a sin so they refuses life saving blood transfusions. Did you know if you're baptized as a Jehovah's Witness and you go to the hospital they will actually have a person from their "kingdom hall" who will go to the hospital and police the patient to make sure the hospital doesn't give them blood? Even if the patient/family says its okay? There are people who force kids to die because of their religious beliefs. This should not be legal in the US.
It would be cool if you guys did "Leper Messiah" on the Master Of Puppets album by Metallica. As I always felt it was talking about false preachers and false televangelists. And how it distorted actual Christianity in general. Of course I was in high school when the Black album came out and I stuck up for Metallica me being a Christian and all that. Because kids in school would criticize me for listening to Metallica and other secular bands because I claimed to be a Christian which I still am will be forever. Anyway that would be great if you guys could do that song and break it down. Also another one would be from the German Power Metal band Gamma Ray with the song "The Abyss Of The Void" Which I think it is straight out of the Bible with a beautiful guitar solo in the middle. Anyway God Bless and thank you for what you are doing. Take care!
Very interesting analysis of this song. I was missing the part of "Christian Science" and was wondering about the missing pieces. Now it is clear. Thank you! And yes, I was wondering about the "healing hand held back by the deepened nail" - can be interpreted in different ways. Very strong lyrics.
I’ve always felt the line “The healing hand held back by the deepened nail” as pretty straight forward, the healing hand is doctors, and the deepened nail is referring to her strong faith that Jesus/God will heal her
"A child you save" being James. "Left you cold" James Mom dying of cancer after she refused treatments. "Left him in grave" what all this did to James. Pretty self explanatory. Thanks Pastor. Another great reaction
Another good Metallica song to listen to is Leper Messiah. You mentioned the prosperity gospel, Leper Messiah to me sounds a lot like he's talking about the televangelists of the 70s and 80s and the false faith healers I think some of that plays into much of people's hatred for God. Before I realized the truth I was a huge Metallica fan they were my first favorite band. Slayer was another big influence on my thinking of who and what God is, partnered with the traumatic events of my existence. I was abused in many ways as a child I'm only 42 years old now. I grew up very fast. Jehovah's witnesses played a big role in much of my hatred for God in the past. I believed so many lies and medicated with drugs and alcohol. You're doing an amazing job God bless you and keep doing what you do.
Hey, I am back. Because I am on to another one of your reactions. I had this same thought at the beginning of the last reaction and I really just want to say that I love your approach at the beginning. Just trying to disarm some people that might over react. Keep it up. I love the fact that you and your sons are connecting in this way.
Thank you for this reaction. I didn't know James' mother was a christian scientist and that is what the song was about. Always thought he was singing about Jesus which always kind of made me sad when I listened to it. Also, I think that James probably didn't understand the nature of christian science at the time of writing and so he possibly was aiming his grief at Jesus (incorrectly). Wonder if he knows the difference now.
Thanks a lot for this reaction and analysis because this song is very deep and for a Christian like me, it's very important and i suffer for him, for what he was get through cause a false God and all this false Christian cult that are very dangerous. When my mom is almost die for Covid 3 years ago, some Jehovah' s witnesses trying to help me, to change my mind in a moment where I'm very weak , but my faith in the REAL GOD helps me, and helps my mom. I prayed for 7 months no stop, talk to him, like the Father who He Is, and he saves her! Every doctors says that it was a miracle that she's alive, and I know for sure that was the hand of God, because I trust in him, and I lay my and her life in his hand. The Jehovah's way of take me in this horrific situation, and trying to get me into their "religion", was really awful and disrespectful. They trying to convince me that the saint doesn't exist and even the Mother Mary. Instead of Heatfield I don't lose my mom, but I understand his anger for this person who kills her. We always believe in God, and if you ask , He always respond. I always reading Jeremiah 29.11-13, its one of my fav because he gives me so much hope when I'm down. thank you fro this video. God bless you. 🙏🙏
I like that you expounded on what defines a cult. With so many denominations out there it can definitely be hard to know which are legit. Requests: Beast and the Harlot by Avenged Sevenfold, Chop Suey by System of a Down, Vicarious by Tool.
I read the lines "I hear faith in your cries, never you hear the discouraging lies" as in indictment of faith based belief systems, to me the story of this song demonstrates exactly why using faith as a path to truth is a bad thing. If faith can be used to justify horrible beliefs like faith healing how can we expect it to be reliable in any other context? It's this sort of system where legitimate doubts are taught as "discouraging lies" that often produces people who will never be able to question their beliefs or their actions that are tied to those beliefs. Your definition of cult is a little too christian centric. Is Judaism a cult? Islam? Buddhism? I prefer the BITE model, for determining what is or isn't a cult.
Was scrolling RUclips and saw y’all in my feed. Was really surprised to find out y’all are in Saint Cloud. Keep up the good work in these reactions and representing our town.
"The healing hand" lyric means the "healing hand" is jesus' hand and the gift of medical knowledge being held back back by her false version of Christianity symbolized as the "deepened nail".
A bit off there, the healing hand concept is actual real world medicine, the nail is his parent's belief in Christian science and how it fits together is that when he was a teen his mother died and her faith in her religion caused her to not seek medical help
@@Villani_AV I've read your comment over and over and I seriously can't find any difference from what I said. A little weird dude. Hard up for a little attention are we?
@Trevor Stevens Some people have to find a way to debate everything. But a great opportunity to say THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK PEOPLE..... READ, THINK, MAYBE EVEN REREAD BEFORE YOU COMMENT!! unless you don't mind looking like @Anthony Villani.
@@sithlordbok420 i believe the confusion is because your statement is "helping hand" is jesus. Or medicine through jesus rather. I believe what the dispute is that the healing hand is modern medicine without jesus and the deepened nail is religion with jesus. Lol this pastor literally used the no tru scotsman fallacy. This christian science god failed but my god wouldn't. Their version of christianity is a cult but my version is ok.
I am a Christian and I love Metallica. Many metal bands address religion. This is because metal bands are very spiritual. There souls guide there music. They may not believe in creation but there souls guide there life. Metal brings me closer to God and test my mind. If we never question we will never know.
Just to clarify if someone else hasn't: His mother wasn't just a Christian Scientist. She also died of cancer while refusing to get medical help because of her beliefs. The song has a lot of metaphorical meaning relating to that. So the stuff about her religion being compared to a parasite is also a reference to her dying of cancer, same with the whole concept of "the god that failed" because "her god" didn't/couldn't save her like she thought he would by not going to a doctor. Hence the lines about god leaving his child to die and "left you cold" is also a reference to her being left to die by "the god that failed".
Just another example of how much of a lyrical genius that James is!! One of the reasons Metallica has been so successful and relatable through the years!
I used to be a Christian but I changed. This channel is great and I love discussing theology despite not being an expert. I appreciate you guys even covering this. Most religious people would probably refuse to listen to it. Subscribed as an atheist and piece to you both.
I think your interpretation is very interesting, considering you’re a pastor and all. I like that you’re not right away condemning the song, you’re trying to understand and justify it in a way. But I think you’re interpreting it wrongly. These are my thoughts about it: I want to almost say that I don’t think Hetfields mother believed in Christian Science. At least not strongly, or in the “cult” kinda way. I think she just genuinely trusted that her faith in god would heal her. Either way, that’s what she believed, cult or no. I think when hetfield says “the healing hand held back by the deepened nail”, I think he is referring to Jesus, not to oneself. I think he is saying that Jesus cannot heal due to the deepened nail (the crucifixion). I don’t think it was meant to mean that your own hands. I think it was a direct reference to the Jesus’ death. Now when you interpreted the line “trust you gave, a child to save, left you cold and him in grave”. You interpreted to mean that hetfields religion was killed. But I think it was meant to reference Jesus’ death again. I think it was basically saying “you trust god to heal you, but he left his own child to die”. That kinda thing, the impact of that hits really hard. This is kinda why I think his mother was just flat out Christian, and just really believed god would heal her and she didn’t need medicine. There are too many references to real biblical events (the crucifixion, Jesus, etc.). But of course this is still just my opinions :) Besides what I personally think you interpreted wrong, this reaction was wonderful. When I saw this was the reaction, I went “well he’s about to scold the entire song”. I was pleasantly surprised that you guys just laid your insight into it, it was really refreshing to not see someone scold something for not being religious. I was raised Christian my entire life, and currently I want to say I’m sorta a religious atheist??? I’m not really sure, but for anyone like me who struggles with their faith, this song really is a beacon that helps us express our doubts and confusion. Because yeah, I wonder the same stuff. If you believe in him so much, why wouldn’t he heal you? Why would he heal you when he left his own son to die? That kinda thing. Either way I really loved the reaction, keep it up guys❤️
I have a Pastor in my family who is easily one of my favorite cousins. I myself am an Atheist. We're part of a very close extended family and during family events, which are about once a month, we will find each other having very interesting and quite polite conversations. They can last hours but are an absolute blast. We've both learned more about the world, society, culture and people just having these conversations cause both of us would research and read as much as possible. Bands like Metallica were attacked by all kinds of people out there cause they no idea what they were actually saying in their music. They just seemed to react to the tone and sound of the music.
Bullpoop. There are thousands of car designs but they all get you from A to B... There are thousands of religious/spiritual/nature practices that all claim some 'truth', but only one is right? Pull the other one.
@@roberthoughton7127 Imagine being this confident that you have the only truth, especially when the most casual study of Judaism shows your heavily pagan-derived religion has little in common with the one it jacked three quarters of your Bible from.
Christ claims to be the only way to heaven, to be the only way to be saved. If you claim to be a Christian, this is the truth to them. A lot of other Faith's claim a lot of different things, but really only three really preach the heaven type Gospel. Christians, Jews, and Muslims. There are off shoots but if someone claims to be of the Christian faith and preaches something other than what the Bible claims as truth, is a cult.
I believe the deepened nail is a reference to the old days when coffins were nailed shut. So as her illness progressed it was "one more nail in the coffin" until her fate was sealed because she refused the healing hand of modern medicine.
I really liked the reaction. I’m a huge Metallica fan and this entire album is amazing. I love the fact that this was a turning point for James as a musician and emotionally open up.
The God That Failed was the first tune dropped on the radio in '91. Followed by MTV's release of Enter Sandman. Wow, how AMAZING. The LIGHT That Failed was penned by Rudyard Kipling 100 years earlier. Yeah, all about James' mom!
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Great video, I live in Central Florida also for 36yrs(since I was 5) I've been a fan of Metallica for at least 30yrs and yes James's mother and father were both Christian scientist and would not go to a hospital or any doctor for her cancer.
The experience among others were really hard on James and his relationship with his dad, you should also check out the song "Mama said" and definitely the live version from 1996 where he plays it solo it is amazing\m/
Hey pastor Rob. Love the videos and the content you create as a whole. I'd love to see a reaction to Dear Agony or Give Me A Sign by Breaking Benjamin. Both songs cover faith and dealing with some sort of loss, I'd greatly appreciate it! Keep being awesome.
Wow, Rob why you keep deleting my comments about LGBT youth and how the song fits the “pray away the gay” conversation?
@@RussShawTV I've never deleted or managed a comment on this channel. It must be getting caught in the youtube filter and needs to be manually approved. I have 16k comments in that section, both good and bad. I quit reading them because the majority are hateful and mean toward me and my son. I don't know what "pray the gay away is" so I can't comment on any connections.
The song is about James mother passing away since his mom was a believer of Christian science so they didn't believe in taking medicine so when she had cancer she didn't take any medicine.
Moses Madavaram yes it is.
Well said sir
Reminds me of A Perfect Circle's 'Judith', which I think Pastor Rob has already reacted to. Great analysis by Pastor Rob on this one too.
@@ProgrammedForDamage that's the first thing that came to my mind. Love Maynard & Tool!
This sort of fundamentalism is where all religions lose me. Not just Christians, but others as well. And that worries me as someone who grew up Catholic. In fact in my age 40+ life (I'm 46 now) I have grown quit critical of religion the more I learn about it and other institutions. When I learned that the Catholic Church along with the International Red Cross helped Nazi Officers escape southern Italy after the fall of Germany in 1945, I'm like damn...hard for me to take the self righteous teachings of the church seriously when you're aiding Nazis escape justice.
As an atheist I always find your interpretations/opinions very interesting.
Keep in the great videos, and greetings from the uk.
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What are you, 12?
@Edward The Booble Did your suggestion to the pastor work?
Lance Lust no I don’t think it did
It’s insane to think how fast James had to grow up. Lost his mom and dad, and later one of his best friends. Lead him to drinking his anger and sadness away. Put his emotion into music and live shows for sure.
He didn't lose his dad till after the black album..estranged maybe but eventually reconciled
if you ever saw some kind of monster it's obvious he never actually grew up
Geo Man I know that, I just mean his dad was out of his life.
arglbargl I did watch it he has another whole aspect to him that’s bright and positively childish, like his passion with choppers and pre 70’s cars, and his love for his kids and band, but I was referring to his life from the early 80’s to late black album era. he has spoken of that dark time a lot.
He basically did lose his dad. His father walked out on the family and the kids didn't have contact with him after that
A Christian pastor that thinks about the writer's perspective instead of drowning us with quotes from the Bible in attempt to convince us that real Christianity is the way and that you are wrong...
The Bible is writtem to common men, by common men, meant to be understood by common men - this is the truth right here. You are supposed to be a thinking rational creature, regardless of what "real and only true faith" you are born under.
Are you kidding? The Bible was with held from the comon man for centuries until Bede translated it into English. The church deliberately withheld understanding of the Bible as method of control. You're standpoint is anachronistic at best
Your kinda right and kinda wrong
@@Dementat the catholic church did this a very long time ago… that’s why we have other branches of the church that are outside the pope who want to spread the word to as many as possible rather than use it to build power
@@henryyancey1117 no it did it for more of its history than it didn't. I grew up in Jarrow, my parish was St. Peter's where Bede was a monk I know my history on this. Christianity has only allowed the common man to connect to scripture recently in its history. Even once Bede translated it it took centuries for mass and liturgies to be in anything other than Latin which was withheld from those without an formal education which in itself was controlled by the Church. Oxford, Cambridge et.al were founded as and still are (technically) religious organizations.
The Bible was penned by man, but not written by man.
"the healing hand" part might be refering to his mother refusing treatment. The hand of a doctor held back by the "nail" (her faith).
Apt metaphor, whatever the point of view.
I hadn't thought of that line in that way. It makes perfect sense. Thanks!
I’m glad I checked the comments because that’s exactly how I see that line.
I always thought of it as the healing hand of Jesus held back by the nail on the cross. That's my canon. But I like your metaphor
@@emanueleragazzi341 Jesus has never healed anyone. He's a myth. And if he ever did exist, he was a mortal man like you and me. You can't "pray away" an illness, because the supernatural does not exist.
As I recall from James’s Rolling Stone interview this song is about that case in the late 80’s where the Christian Scientist parents refused medical care for a child with a blocked intestine, and the child died in a horrifying way. The parents were prosecuted and Hetfield, having grown up in this environment, was furious that these parents allowed their child to die. It brought back all sorts of damage for him.
BINGO someone give that man a prize !!!!!!!!!!!
Good job BRO 👍
That is horrible.
Yes. This is correct.
@@julianortiz4151 I haven't seen this interview but I always thought it was his mother who died from cancer after refusing treatment because she thought god would heal her.
Edit: I never truly listened to the lyrics but knew that story, I just got to the "him in grave" line and now I believe the child story more
at least that childs with Jesus and God and Elvis...👼
Try "Leper Messiah" from their third album, Master of Puppets!
Doesnt have to be about hatred. I just love this channel and metallica is my favourite band so id appreciate ANY metallica song that involves God in any sense 😅
@@YourEx.. would be interesting to get their take on televangelists.
God there is pure greatness in that Album
@@reemsreg so?
@@YourEx.. There is no hate song about God from Metallica. Its all about the religious group he was involve in.
When the pastor is more metal looking guy than kirk hammet.
😂😂
That's a pretty low bar to clear .
So does my grandma.
;)
..not quite. 🤟🖤🤟
lol right!
Liberace is more metal-looking than Kirk.
James' wording, "pride that you felt when you kneel" is so brilliant. Many religious people forget that pride is one sin that God hates the most.
Pride blinds people. People who believe to be 'the chosen ones' or 'the true believers' are the ones who do attrocities. Instead of staying in God's path, they become the very thing that God hates.
thankyou! I want to reflect on what you write. maybe that's the "betrayal" James is talking about?
@@giovannicella7817 The betrayal, I think, is in reference to how James' mother refused modern medicine because she believed (and had been told by her church I think) that god would cure her cancer. And that if it wasn't working, she just needed to pray more and stop listening to people around her. This, obviously, led to her death, which happened when James was still young (around 15 I think), and left James without either of his parents. So I think he's talking about how the church betrayed his mother.
The Four Horsemen by metallica would be nice to see you break down the lyrics
In that same vein. Creeping death would be awesome.
Ya after I posted, I went back on their videos and found it.
Anything off of kill em all
The four horsemen is just about the apocalypse.
The clicking sound at 7:12 that he asks “is that a maraca?” Is James cocking a gun into the microphone. I think it was either a shotgun or a lever action rifle. I forget which
Danny Hayson thanks.. I remember watching a year and a half in the life after school back in the 90’s.. I probably watched it and the box set stuff a 100 times. I was a little Metallica nerd... haha
@Danny Hayson In my memory it was a pump action, but I haven't seen it in years. Funny how memories just morph like that. Lol.
I never even noticed that part, that’s insane!
Lever Action Rifle, If you watch “A year and a half in the Life if Metallica” it shows a clip of him doing it
I’m not a Christian but I watch your videos it’s so awesome seeing you liking these songs and not judging them like “most Christians” keep up the great videos
You know, I never appreciated how awesome the "deceit/deceive/decide" line is. Quality wordplay from James!
this song is a lyric masterpiece, they are soooo good
They guys is UNTOUCHABLE, HE'S THE MASTER!! 🤘🤘🤘
His best writing was on the black album
As a Catholic, I can proudly say you are spot on. There is a story that relates to this: a flood was coming, and the man trapped inside his house kept praying for salvation. Eventually he died, and was angry with god. God responded with, I sent you warnings on the radio and tv. I sent you neighbors with cars. I sent you a boat, when the water rose. I sent you a helicopter, when the water got higher. What else could I have done for you? God works, and helps us in many ways. It's up to us, to take action.
A prime example of God helping those who help themselves.
God helped us with our BRAINS! Copy that sir.
Pantera - Floods
The Himalaya! That's the name of the ride I was thinking of! Anyone else remember that ride?
Hard Rock UFO?
if it was a ride at the fair, it probably had 100 names. lol
Absolutely! It was always up at the Bloomsburg State Fair in PA.
YEP! I think I'm just a year or so younger than you. I remember riding on "Dante's Inferno", "Polar Express", and "Abominable Snowman", similar rides I'm sure. I remember JAMMING THE F out at 12 years old to "Head Like a Hole" by Nine Inch Nails and singing along -- it was one of the first CDs I ever bought, and hearing it on a ride I felt so cool.
The Himalayan is the ride that I 1st heard metal ! Enter Sandman ! In 91' was the day I became a metalhead at 11 years old
You gotta do Holy Wars by Megadeth!
When James's backstory is included it's pretty much on the nose... the god that failed is the concept of God the Christian Scientists are utilizing, and it destroyed his childhood.
Adding my voice to the numbers requesting Leper Messiah... Metallica basically sang Jim Bakker's story, or you can point to older references like A Face In The Crowd or The Night Of The Hunter (1955 film, actually based on the true story of Harry Powers, the rest I'll leave to you and Wikipedia)
I always understood the lyric "the healing hand held back by the deepened nail" like this... Faith is the deepened nail and the healing hand is the surgeon/doctor.
So his mothers faith/beliefs held back the doctor's ability to heal.
The “maraca” you hear us actually James cocking a lever action rifle! They had a variety of cool sounds on the Black Album
I honestly can't hear it. I tried to find it and I just can't hear it. It kinda bums me out cause I actually own a Winchester 1873 and I wanted to see if I could tell if that's what it was. 😭😂
Matthew Balusek if you quickly skim through the making of the black album (maybe a quarter or half way through) you can see James with the rifle. I’ve seen it multiple times but I seriously can’t tell what kind it is!
Also in an interview James talks about how he felt alienated in school when it was time for health class and he had to leave the room because he wasn’t allowed to learn about human body
That’s crazy.
@@roberthoughton7127 It's literally standard for religion to prevent it's followers discovering their lies, wtf are you talking about?
@@formulajuan5762 lies?
@@formulajuan5762 Dumb
As a religious person, I've always struggled with this song, I'm a Metallica fan but I couldn't listen to this song without feeling guilty.. Thank you for clearing this, it was very helpful.. God bless you
God bless you! 💪🏻
The fact that listening to a song makes you feel guilty should make you question your religion. Where is the guilt really coming from? Who taught it to you?
@@HkLY45 As a firm Christian, we aren't taught the guilt (at least in the church that I go to, I know there are many variations of Christianity across the world) but because it is something that we believe in our hearts and then a song that we hear from a band that we love says something that is pretty askew from our views, we feel bad for liking it because it makes us feel like we're straying from the path of God.
@@HkLY45 it's basically the same logic of you watch a video of someone roasting something you like. It's not guilty, it's just uncomfortable
It does seem very blashemous
It's about his mother and Christian science in general. There's also parts of the lyrics referring to a case where the parents, Christian scientists, would not let the doctors help out a young child who was sick. They believed in praying and their faith in God will heal the child. So the lyric trust you gave, a child to save, left you cold and him in grave is in reference to that. They had the belief that their 'god' would heal, so when the child died it left them cold with the thought their god had failed while the child was in the grave.
Healing hand held back by the deepened nail is a reference to the healing hand (doctors) held back by the religious beliefs (deepened nail (on the cross)) so to speak.
Its a brilliant song and by far my favourite in terms of lyrical context of any metallica song.
The part of talking about the child, it is James itself. She died (A Cold dead body) and he was mourning at her grave. He repeats that same thought in Mama Said
OZ.......on point bro good job !!!
"...From their 1991 self titled album... The Black Album!"
😂
It is self-titled, the black album is just what people have always called it.
@@taffysaur I'm well aware... It's just the way they said it made me laugh...
The beginning of the end of Metallica and the birth of Metallicunt
“From their 1991 self titled album, the black album” the comma helps it make sense. Since it is called both he’s not wrong. The self titled part already let’s you know it’s titled Metallica, the second being what people call it.
The part that you thought was a maraca in the beginning and near the end, is a Winchester rifle being cocked.
John W hgo back and listen right after he says that about the maraca, in that pause you can here Jason yell “hey!”
Youth pastor here... This channel had made me think about doing this so if thing with youth students
That's how this channel started. I posted a video for my students and the video went crazy. Our students have no one else helping them navigate through all the lies and misinformation.
@Edward The Booble that metal and world music is evil. As Christian you have to read the lyrics there are bad metal or pop music is important to see what music you consume
"The snake thing in the corner" is from the US Army Drill Instructor flag that says "Don't Tread On Me" though it originally was the flag of the Continental Marines in 1775 and is also now used by the US Navy as the emblem for the "War on Terror" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsden_flag
The Gadsden flag
@@ronmaximilian6953 that's what the link says
@@jaratt85 I didn't see the link
I'm a lifelong Christian and a lifelong metal fan. I came across your videos by chance and I love the way you analyze the songs and use the lyrics to help witness to others bout Christ. That's actually really cool.
You guys should react to Leper Messiah next, plenty of room for discussion there.
I think you should react to some Gojira songs, they have some really, really deep lyrics like "Silvera", "Flying Whales" or "The Gift Of Guilt"
Alexis Thibodeau yes. Isnt Silvera about being vegan or something? Always thought their lyrics were so interesting
Toxic Garbage Island, In the Forest, and Remembrance are musts
And Global Warming or World to Come
A "L'Enfant Sauvage" (the track) lyrical analysis would be amazing.
I'd love to see them do Gojira too
Christian Science and the "fire and brimstone" style gospel of the early 20th century turned a lot of people away from Christ. My grandparents experienced these practices firsthand and essentially became atheists because of it. Modern day churches that focus on the love of God rather than on the punishment of hell are the only real way to bring people to the gospel. Trying to convert people using fear tactics is a losing effort.
The Gospel should not be sugarcoated.
@@jasonrogers682 how can you sugarcoat something that doesn't need to be sugarcoated when it's been used as a fear controlling cult?
@@jasonrogers682 you can sugercoat a turd but once you take a bite, you'll quickly notice it's still a turd.
I don't see the point of "warning" people about hell. People who never hear the gospel are going to hell anyways if they don't repent, correct?
@@hxcnoel You are correct as a Christian we are to show love and Grace to ppl not fear that is The Devils tool, i myself have been fear preached to and it never gave me roots of love/a foundation from where to grow since it was only based in fear. So no that is def not The way, The Bible says "The goodness of God leads men to repentance" not fear nowhere does it say fear (fear of God is something Else). When i encountered later in Life The love of God i was completely changed and healed and grew roots of love and now im overjoyed and walk after Jesus in love not thru fear and obligation but as a new man a new creation.
I’m glad you highlighted the songs focus on the Cult false god the song is referring to. As a Christian and a metal fan, this song is the hardest to explain to others. Thanks for the great videos!
@My Perspective he is speaking about Christian science (his mother belonged to) she refused treatment for cancer due to her beliefs he has talked about how this song is about religion and god in interviews
The ‘maracas’ was actually a rifle, like a Winchester rifle. It was in the Year and A Half In The Life Of Metallica documentary of when they were recording the album. They used a lot of different sounds for the songs and it’s inventive and really cool
So awesome to see you analyzing a song by one of my favorite bands. Always love seeing your views on the songs I love.
Thanks for the love!
Brings me back to 91 as a Freshman in College. The black album was the long awaited (by those year's standards) follow-up to Justice for All. I just remember that all the other Big 7 bands released at least 2 albums while I was in High School while Metallica had only released one. Megadeth with So Far, So Good and Rust in Piece. Slayer with South of Heaven and Seasons of the Abyss, Anthrax with State of Euphoria and Persistence of Time. And even OverKill with Taking Over, Under the Influence, and Years of Decay. Exodus with Fabulous Disaster and Impact is Imminent. Testament with Legacy, New World Order, Practice What you Preach, and Souls of Black.
I'm guessing your just thinking about music back in the day. I'm not being rude, but I don't know if you were making a point or I missed it. I was a metal head back in the day and I'm younger than you, "the big four" had previous albums that were better than the ones you mentioned. I like what you like but think (my opinion) the older stuff was better. It's like a bon vs. Brian argument, it's subjective
I'm so glad you reacted to this, never really knew the meaning.
“...the healing hand held back by the deepened nail...” I always thought it was referring to the hand(s) of Christ being nailed to the cross, as if that could keep him from healing.
Same, seems obvious to me. Interesting to see other interpretations though.
I had thought the same but, like the other interpretations as well.
React to God is Dead? By Black Sabbath
I request this on every video!
Yes!!
Which God? What God? What, exactly, do you mean by "God"? Where is He? What is He doing? Why doesn`t He answer prayers or intervene...ever? What evidence is there to prove there even is a God to be dead. “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
― Epicurus
As I recall Tony and Ozzy were at odds about that title and if it was appropriate to use.
@Thomas Jefferson What are you asking? I never said anything like that! I asked simple questions; why didn`t you answer them? The fact that you can`t answer them is proof that there is no God, whatsoever.
When you asked "maracas" at 07:19... thats the sound of rifle pumping action actually :D
Alot is the lyrics have double meaning, which is cool. The healing hand was the doctors not necessarily God. James can be a really good lyricist
Not gonna lie im not too religious, but I grew up in church. And honestly your dissection of this song makes the most sense out of anybody else's opinions on it. Good stuff. 👍
By the way... this song is a litmus test. Or, rather, a persons's consideration of this song is a litmus test on how willing they are to think and perhaps change their minds when provided with new information.
A religious thinker will take it on the surface and consider it heretical. Dig, and the false god concept appears. Dig even deeper to the writer's backstory, and it's obvious that it's little to do with Christianity at all, and all about the 'false prophets' that wronged them. But does the original consideration stick, or is a mind changed? That's the test.
@saturnaliamiracle Certainly as an educated person, you would have to agree that one example does not set the precedent. His point isn't necessarily that religious people are uneducated, it's that they are more likely to experience a knee-jerk reaction to any medium that criticizes god. Listing your credentials doesn't make your argument any better, as again, one example cannot upend the precedent. If you are as educated as you claim to be, surely you would try to make a logical argument rather than flippantly insulting him.
@saturnaliamiracle Nice appeal to authority, but your admission that you believe in fairytales removes any credibility you were hoping to build with your "I'm a scientist" nonsense.
@@formulajuan5762 I don't know what he said, but something tells me he didn't say anything about fairytales.
I just learned something new from your post I listened to Metallica for years but this song sat wrong with me but never knew about his mother. Thanks for bringing truth and light on the context of the song!
I’m so stoked to have come across this channel. I have many songs I loved before becoming a Christian. However, I’m having a hard time with which ones are still acceptable to listen. Ironically this is one. I stopped listening to it for years. I loved it. Thank you for allowing me to listen to it again. I have another one I love but don’t listen to as much or feel convicted when I do. Alice In Chains-Man in the Box. Please react to this one.
Well they were singing about "denying your maker".
Sympathy for the devil by rolling stones
Lord of this world by black sabbath
Love the Channel. Prayers for your family
“They wrote some good music”
They still do Robert :)
Another enjoyable video covering one of my all time favorite bands. Thanks! :D
I'm pretty sure when James says:
"Trust you gave, a child to save
Left you cold and him in grave"
hes talking about all the children who have died over the years because of idiotic cult beliefs like how the Jehovah's Witnesses say taking a blood transfusion is a sin so they refuses life saving blood transfusions. Did you know if you're baptized as a Jehovah's Witness and you go to the hospital they will actually have a person from their "kingdom hall" who will go to the hospital and police the patient to make sure the hospital doesn't give them blood? Even if the patient/family says its okay? There are people who force kids to die because of their religious beliefs. This should not be legal in the US.
Not everywhere will JW's do that though.
No his brother and mom died
I absolutely love the way you guys dissect the lyrics with a Biblical sense of interpretation and explanation. Great work guys! God Bless
Thank you for the encouragement.
Thanks for clearing that up. As a Christian I felt guilty liking this song.
Love that you did this one. I discussed this song with my religion teacher my senior yr. Stay safe, keep rockin.
Behemoth the saintnist, batezbel or god = dog
Love what you guys do 🤘
I cannot overstate how helpful these videos are! Thanks guys!
It would be cool if you guys did "Leper Messiah" on the Master Of Puppets album by Metallica. As I always felt it was talking about false preachers and false televangelists. And how it distorted actual Christianity in general. Of course I was in high school when the Black album came out and I stuck up for Metallica me being a Christian and all that. Because kids in school would criticize me for listening to Metallica and other secular bands because I claimed to be a Christian which I still am will be forever. Anyway that would be great if you guys could do that song and break it down.
Also another one would be from the German Power Metal band Gamma Ray with the song "The Abyss Of The Void" Which I think it is straight out of the Bible with a beautiful guitar solo in the middle. Anyway God Bless and thank you for what you are doing. Take care!
Very interesting analysis of this song. I was missing the part of "Christian Science" and was wondering about the missing pieces. Now it is clear. Thank you! And yes, I was wondering about the "healing hand held back by the deepened nail" - can be interpreted in different ways. Very strong lyrics.
Amen, brothers. Love from Australia 🤟😎
Kevin Haddacks Amen mate from WA
@@Prognosis__ same to you man 😎🤙 from Victoria!
Pastor Robert, you ROCK, wish i have a Pastor like you in my church, keep on rocking \m/
7:19 Not a maraca. I believe James is pumping a shotgun. He can be seen doing it on the Year and a Half documentary.
Interesting.
Yeah it’s a shotgun. I always heard it, but didn’t know for sure until I watched the year and a half documentary.
I had no idea i always just thought it was some bass drum effect. Thats very interesting
This song is PERFECTLY described in this video
I’ve always felt the line “The healing hand held back by the deepened nail” as pretty straight forward, the healing hand is doctors, and the deepened nail is referring to her strong faith that Jesus/God will heal her
The Black Album came out my senior year of high school, what a soundtrack for a milestone year, boy do I do feel old. 😂😂
React to Behemoth please
That would be interesting to say the least.....
Let this douche react to it oh I’m sure he’ll love the lyrics huh
@@admirmahmutovic2125 are you calling him a douche just because he's Christian? He seems like a pretty nice guy
Great channel Robert 👏
This lockdown made me start one too with my mum, I'm big fan of yours too ♥️🧡💜❤️
"A child you save" being James.
"Left you cold" James Mom dying of cancer after she refused treatments.
"Left him in grave" what all this did to James. Pretty self explanatory. Thanks Pastor. Another great reaction
Love you guys' input.
Another great video.
Keep putting the Word out there my man!
Another good Metallica song to listen to is Leper Messiah. You mentioned the prosperity gospel, Leper Messiah to me sounds a lot like he's talking about the televangelists of the 70s and 80s and the false faith healers I think some of that plays into much of people's hatred for God. Before I realized the truth I was a huge Metallica fan they were my first favorite band. Slayer was another big influence on my thinking of who and what God is, partnered with the traumatic events of my existence. I was abused in many ways as a child I'm only 42 years old now. I grew up very fast. Jehovah's witnesses played a big role in much of my hatred for God in the past. I believed so many lies and medicated with drugs and alcohol. You're doing an amazing job God bless you and keep doing what you do.
Hey, I am back. Because I am on to another one of your reactions. I had this same thought at the beginning of the last reaction and I really just want to say that I love your approach at the beginning. Just trying to disarm some people that might over react. Keep it up. I love the fact that you and your sons are connecting in this way.
Thank you for this reaction. I didn't know James' mother was a christian scientist and that is what the song was about. Always thought he was singing about Jesus which always kind of made me sad when I listened to it. Also, I think that James probably didn't understand the nature of christian science at the time of writing and so he possibly was aiming his grief at Jesus (incorrectly).
Wonder if he knows the difference now.
He has a Jesus tattoo on his arm. Pretty sure he's a fan.
@@breandan3280 Cool, did not know that, thanks.
Thanks a lot for this reaction and analysis because this song is very deep and for a Christian like me, it's very important and i suffer for him, for what he was get through cause a false God and all this false Christian cult that are very dangerous. When my mom is almost die for Covid 3 years ago, some Jehovah' s witnesses trying to help me, to change my mind in a moment where I'm very weak , but my faith in the REAL GOD helps me, and helps my mom. I prayed for 7 months no stop, talk to him, like the Father who He Is, and he saves her! Every doctors says that it was a miracle that she's alive, and I know for sure that was the hand of God, because I trust in him, and I lay my and her life in his hand. The Jehovah's way of take me in this horrific situation, and trying to get me into their "religion", was really awful and disrespectful. They trying to convince me that the saint doesn't exist and even the Mother Mary. Instead of Heatfield I don't lose my mom, but I understand his anger for this person who kills her. We always believe in God, and if you ask , He always respond. I always reading Jeremiah 29.11-13, its one of my fav because he gives me so much hope when I'm down. thank you fro this video. God bless you. 🙏🙏
Another great video brother.
Solus Christus
Sola fida
Sola scriptura
Sola Gratia
Soli Deo Gloria
I like that you expounded on what defines a cult. With so many denominations out there it can definitely be hard to know which are legit.
Requests: Beast and the Harlot by Avenged Sevenfold, Chop Suey by System of a Down, Vicarious by Tool.
I read the lines "I hear faith in your cries, never you hear the discouraging lies" as in indictment of faith based belief systems, to me the story of this song demonstrates exactly why using faith as a path to truth is a bad thing. If faith can be used to justify horrible beliefs like faith healing how can we expect it to be reliable in any other context? It's this sort of system where legitimate doubts are taught as "discouraging lies" that often produces people who will never be able to question their beliefs or their actions that are tied to those beliefs.
Your definition of cult is a little too christian centric. Is Judaism a cult? Islam? Buddhism? I prefer the BITE model, for determining what is or isn't a cult.
An excellent and intelligent analysis of this song. The world need more Pastors with your wisdom guiding our youth.
Please react to a Fit For A King or Memphis May Fire song!
Yes!!! Oblivion for sure.
Jason LovesABR I literally love that song sooo much
Yes, Oblivion or Tower of Pain
That album came out when I was in high school. Y’all making me feel old. Moderation in everything, including practice of religion.
Will love to see you reaction to the song Devil Is A Loser by the band Lordi :D :)
Was scrolling RUclips and saw y’all in my feed. Was really surprised to find out y’all are in Saint Cloud. Keep up the good work in these reactions and representing our town.
Awesome! You’ll probably see us bumming at homedepot or chipotle. Gauge is at the Chick-fil-A all the time.
Protest the Hero - Tilting Against Windmills would be interesting
Yes!!
Dude, I hate that song's lyrics, but those are awesome riffs ahaha.
I was 13 when the Black Album came out and it was the first Metallica I ever bought. Since then I became the biggest Metallica fan
"The healing hand" lyric means the "healing hand" is jesus' hand and the gift of medical knowledge being held back back by her false version of Christianity symbolized as the "deepened nail".
A bit off there, the healing hand concept is actual real world medicine, the nail is his parent's belief in Christian science and how it fits together is that when he was a teen his mother died and her faith in her religion caused her to not seek medical help
All you did was reword what I said.
@@Villani_AV I've read your comment over and over and I seriously can't find any difference from what I said. A little weird dude. Hard up for a little attention are we?
@Trevor Stevens Some people have to find a way to debate everything. But a great opportunity to say THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK PEOPLE..... READ, THINK, MAYBE EVEN REREAD BEFORE YOU COMMENT!! unless you don't mind looking like @Anthony Villani.
@@sithlordbok420 i believe the confusion is because your statement is "helping hand" is jesus. Or medicine through jesus rather.
I believe what the dispute is that the healing hand is modern medicine without jesus and the deepened nail is religion with jesus.
Lol this pastor literally used the no tru scotsman fallacy. This christian science god failed but my god wouldn't. Their version of christianity is a cult but my version is ok.
Misguided faith or religion can be poisonous. I’m elated there’s good devout Christians like yourself, seeking to enlighten folks of all faiths.
I am a Christian and I love Metallica. Many metal bands address religion. This is because metal bands are very spiritual. There souls guide there music. They may not believe in creation but there souls guide there life. Metal brings me closer to God and test my mind. If we never question we will never know.
I’ve always loved this song for its dig at religion without coming off as condescending or ignorant.
Just to clarify if someone else hasn't: His mother wasn't just a Christian Scientist. She also died of cancer while refusing to get medical help because of her beliefs. The song has a lot of metaphorical meaning relating to that. So the stuff about her religion being compared to a parasite is also a reference to her dying of cancer, same with the whole concept of "the god that failed" because "her god" didn't/couldn't save her like she thought he would by not going to a doctor. Hence the lines about god leaving his child to die and "left you cold" is also a reference to her being left to die by "the god that failed".
Just another example of how much of a lyrical genius that James is!! One of the reasons Metallica has been so successful and relatable through the years!
"My God is real, your Gods are fake". Faith is a funny thing.
Yeah! Funny and shit
also: "i don't know how anybody can fall for that" said the creationist
Not really.. Do you believe the Islam's Allah is the same as the Christian God?
onemassivejoint I don’t believe in either of them. Or any other god.
@@janitor6669 Fair enough..
I used to be a Christian but I changed. This channel is great and I love discussing theology despite not being an expert. I appreciate you guys even covering this. Most religious people would probably refuse to listen to it. Subscribed as an atheist and piece to you both.
React to Metallica - Leper messiah
Televangelists are fun to discuss. But that song I feel is much more biting than this one.
My fav reaction channel!! Keep up the great content fellas. God Bless
Do Cirice by Ghost.
If you listen closely, right after he mentions the maraca sound, during the pause, you can hear Jason yell “hey!”
I think your interpretation is very interesting, considering you’re a pastor and all. I like that you’re not right away condemning the song, you’re trying to understand and justify it in a way. But I think you’re interpreting it wrongly. These are my thoughts about it:
I want to almost say that I don’t think Hetfields mother believed in Christian Science. At least not strongly, or in the “cult” kinda way. I think she just genuinely trusted that her faith in god would heal her. Either way, that’s what she believed, cult or no.
I think when hetfield says “the healing hand held back by the deepened nail”, I think he is referring to Jesus, not to oneself. I think he is saying that Jesus cannot heal due to the deepened nail (the crucifixion). I don’t think it was meant to mean that your own hands. I think it was a direct reference to the Jesus’ death.
Now when you interpreted the line “trust you gave, a child to save, left you cold and him in grave”. You interpreted to mean that hetfields religion was killed. But I think it was meant to reference Jesus’ death again. I think it was basically saying “you trust god to heal you, but he left his own child to die”. That kinda thing, the impact of that hits really hard.
This is kinda why I think his mother was just flat out Christian, and just really believed god would heal her and she didn’t need medicine. There are too many references to real biblical events (the crucifixion, Jesus, etc.). But of course this is still just my opinions :)
Besides what I personally think you interpreted wrong, this reaction was wonderful. When I saw this was the reaction, I went “well he’s about to scold the entire song”. I was pleasantly surprised that you guys just laid your insight into it, it was really refreshing to not see someone scold something for not being religious. I was raised Christian my entire life, and currently I want to say I’m sorta a religious atheist??? I’m not really sure, but for anyone like me who struggles with their faith, this song really is a beacon that helps us express our doubts and confusion. Because yeah, I wonder the same stuff. If you believe in him so much, why wouldn’t he heal you? Why would he heal you when he left his own son to die? That kinda thing.
Either way I really loved the reaction, keep it up guys❤️
He died for our sins , and God works through Doctors, medicine Etc
I have a Pastor in my family who is easily one of my favorite cousins. I myself am an Atheist. We're part of a very close extended family and during family events, which are about once a month, we will find each other having very interesting and quite polite conversations. They can last hours but are an absolute blast. We've both learned more about the world, society, culture and people just having these conversations cause both of us would research and read as much as possible. Bands like Metallica were attacked by all kinds of people out there cause they no idea what they were actually saying in their music. They just seemed to react to the tone and sound of the music.
Interesting definition of cult: basically "every other religion".
Correct.
Bullpoop. There are thousands of car designs but they all get you from A to B...
There are thousands of religious/spiritual/nature practices that all claim some 'truth', but only one is right? Pull the other one.
@@roberthoughton7127 I read that in Plankton's voice. And to be honest, I think the tone fits perfectly.
@@roberthoughton7127 Imagine being this confident that you have the only truth, especially when the most casual study of Judaism shows your heavily pagan-derived religion has little in common with the one it jacked three quarters of your Bible from.
Christ claims to be the only way to heaven, to be the only way to be saved. If you claim to be a Christian, this is the truth to them. A lot of other Faith's claim a lot of different things, but really only three really preach the heaven type Gospel. Christians, Jews, and Muslims. There are off shoots but if someone claims to be of the Christian faith and preaches something other than what the Bible claims as truth, is a cult.
Words Darker Than Their Wings Live at the Royal Albert Hall by Alter Bridge 🤘🏼
There is nothing Christian about, Jehova's witnesses, Scientology, Mormonism or Islam.
Abrahamic religions have been evolving and offshooting ever since the Epic of Gilgamesh and the Pyramid Texts.
Shaun Smith or seventh day Adventist
No shit. No one said they were. Except Mormons. Since when did Islam and Scientology say they were Christian?
Sean Shamblin they don't, I'm just stating the fact. But JW's spew notions of Christ that are incorrect.
@@shaunsmith7651 Most Christian's notions of Christ are wrong. Why are JW's ideas any more correct?
I believe the deepened nail is a reference to the old days when coffins were nailed shut. So as her illness progressed it was "one more nail in the coffin" until her fate was sealed because she refused the healing hand of modern medicine.
I really liked the reaction. I’m a huge Metallica fan and this entire album is amazing. I love the fact that this was a turning point for James as a musician and emotionally open up.
The God That Failed was the first tune dropped on the radio in '91.
Followed by MTV's release of Enter Sandman.
Wow, how AMAZING.
The LIGHT That Failed was penned by Rudyard Kipling 100 years earlier.
Yeah, all about James' mom!