Hi, thanks for a thought-provoking video as always! It is a common swedish saying that chopping some wood will make you feel better. I have never chopped wood and don't really trust myself to not hurt myself by accident. I do my crochet as a kind of meditative activity, sometimes just doing a physical activity frees the mind a bit. I've never really worked a physical job since i avoid it mostly, but often I'll take a walk on my lunch break or do some mindless repetitive task like desinfecting my office after patients or unloading the washing machine at work to clear my brain. This video made me also think about liminal spaces again, there are certain stores that are kind of like rest stops, restore stops in video games. Going into a 7-11 or a mcdonalds is kind of like erasing your brain from whatever is happening in the world, the familiarity is kind like the feeling from the repetitive movements you mentioned. Sorry i don't know if i'm making sense 😅 but great video 😊
You're absolutely making sense and I was thinking of your crochet hobby as well -- it is meditative, doing something with hands that frees your mind (for poetry? 😉). I haven't been in a 7-11 or McDonald's for a long time... so it would feel odd and unfamiliar. It did make me think of a lot of nostalgic places stored in the noggin, though, and that is a sort-of mental revisiting of place...
Well everything you said made sense to me! On reflection then, my various creative pursuits are fulfilling that same function for me (drawing, music and video editing), which also require actual physical movements and precision. Walking helps a lot - when my mind is spiralling out of control, intense long walks seem to keep myself just above the surface. I used to go to my grandparent’s farm three times a year in my teenage years which involved a lot of wood chopping (and maintaining the fire to keep the old motor going for the milk pumps for the cows). The ESTJ grandpa angrily making me clean the septic tank, ESTJ uncles maniacally making me mix concrete for a supposed shed being built 😂 - it was all horrible at the time but I think it helped me reevaluate my life at a young age, I used to live in a dreamworld while doing these tasks, desperately trying to imagine a happy future for myself. Horrible as it was I wonder if I would have been as ‘emotional balanced’ (externally) I feel I’ve been over the years. Lots of think about, a great video and I would be wise to steal this idea for a future video. I’ll have a think.
I think now we absolutely need to hear about your time on the farm. If it sounds horrible, it's because it probably was -- "builds character", they say. I s'pose if trauma and character are interchangeable... Also I think you have it exactly right, having the range of experiences to draw from, even some bad ones, makes for better balance later in life. What I didn't mention about the chopping wood experience is that one day as we were cutting and splitting, my dad took off most of two upper fingers with a power saw. The emergency room managed to save them. More evidence to stay away from power tools.
Gouda morning your way, Dulles. Oh yes, this is very relevant here. As awkward as I am, both physically and otherwise...I've done manual work most of my life and found the benefits for most of the reasons and aspect you've mentioned. I find it's also a way to be in two places at once, especially indeed, with repetitive activities. Some people would say, "I would go bonkers having to do that over and over again." Perhaps I already have though it leaves room for daydreaming and shaking loose the sediment of other ideas, plans, imaginings that wouldn't quite come into focus when I was just plain 'doing nothing'. Thank you for this as ever, good sir. By the way, "Dulles wielding other implements of destruction" is an image I just can't quite shake now.... 🙂 -Carm P.S. My personal favorite Meredith Monk albums are 'Facing North' and Turtle Dreams'...those may be best for starters. 🐢
💙Thank you Gorvo! "Imaginings that wouldn't come into focus when I was 'doing nothing'" hits the nail on the head squarely. Leaf season invites us to work, and to ponder. And thank you for the tip! "Turtle Dreams" is a terrific name for an album, so I will try that route.
Hi there, Dulles. and Hello to your lil EP🐧friend on the shelf. you mention dark ruminating thoughts...3:30 “Most of us do not like not being able to see what others see or make sense of something new. We do not like it when things do not come together and [fi*t ] nicely for us. That is why most popular movies have Hollywood endings. The public prefers a tidy finale. And we especially do not like it when things are contradictory, because then it is much harder to reconcile them (this is particularly true for Westerners). This sense of confusion triggers in a us a feeling of noxious anxiety. It generates tension. So we feel compelled to reduce it, solve it, complete it, reconcile it, make it make sense. And when we do solve these puzzles, there's relief. It feels good. We REALLY like it when things come together. What I am describing is a very basic human psychological process, captured by the second Gestalt principle. It is what we call the 'press for coherence.' It has been called many different things in psychology: consonance, need for closure, congruity, harmony, need for meaning, the consistency principle. At its core it is the drive to reduce the tension, disorientation, and dissonance that come from complexity, incoherence, and contradiction. In the 1930s, Bluma Zeigarnik, a student of Lewin's in Berlin, designed a famous study to test the impact of this idea of tension and coherence. Lewin had noticed that waiters in his local cafe seemed to have better recollections of unpaid orders than of those already settled. A lab study was run to examine this phenomenon, and it showed that people tend to remember uncompleted tasks, like half-finished math or word problems, better than completed tasks. This is because the unfinished task triggers a feeling of tension, which gets associated with the task and keeps it lingering in our minds. The completed problems are, well, complete, so we forget them and move on. They later called this the 'Zeigarnik effect,' and it has influenced the study of many things, from advertising campaigns to coping with the suicide of loved ones to dysphoric rumination of past conflicts.” ― Peter T. Coleman, The Five Percent: Finding Solutions to Seemingly Impossible Conflicts and 'shovels and other implements of destruction', oh gosh Dulles, spoken like an intuitive which makes purrfe*ct se*nse to me. 🥄
The need to assign meaning to things, I think this is fundamental Wynstan'sMom. This "processing" of ideas and how they're felt out, is all about turning things over from this perspective and that, and possibly feeling out different scenarios and how they would play out. So there are a couple moving parts, creating hypotheticals, running them through , feeling them out. Often there is a feeling resolution that X is the proper response -- the proper way to think about it. Ironically that never has to translate into action: If I respond with X, it is the right thing to do. But now that I know the right solution, I'm done. What? Actually do it? Why?"
I hope the graphic is not too much 'crazy axe person'. There's a Yankee saying, something about that wood keeps a person warm many times over. One gets warm chopping it, cutting it, moving it, splitting it, stacking it, hauling it ... and finally burning it. The kids in the suburbs had cable TV. I lived more than two miles out on a rural road, so there was over-the-air TV and wood.
Hi, thanks for a thought-provoking video as always! It is a common swedish saying that chopping some wood will make you feel better. I have never chopped wood and don't really trust myself to not hurt myself by accident. I do my crochet as a kind of meditative activity, sometimes just doing a physical activity frees the mind a bit. I've never really worked a physical job since i avoid it mostly, but often I'll take a walk on my lunch break or do some mindless repetitive task like desinfecting my office after patients or unloading the washing machine at work to clear my brain.
This video made me also think about liminal spaces again, there are certain stores that are kind of like rest stops, restore stops in video games. Going into a 7-11 or a mcdonalds is kind of like erasing your brain from whatever is happening in the world, the familiarity is kind like the feeling from the repetitive movements you mentioned. Sorry i don't know if i'm making sense 😅 but great video 😊
You're absolutely making sense and I was thinking of your crochet hobby as well -- it is meditative, doing something with hands that frees your mind (for poetry? 😉).
I haven't been in a 7-11 or McDonald's for a long time... so it would feel odd and unfamiliar. It did make me think of a lot of nostalgic places stored in the noggin, though, and that is a sort-of mental revisiting of place...
Well everything you said made sense to me! On reflection then, my various creative pursuits are fulfilling that same function for me (drawing, music and video editing), which also require actual physical movements and precision. Walking helps a lot - when my mind is spiralling out of control, intense long walks seem to keep myself just above the surface.
I used to go to my grandparent’s farm three times a year in my teenage years which involved a lot of wood chopping (and maintaining the fire to keep the old motor going for the milk pumps for the cows). The ESTJ grandpa angrily making me clean the septic tank, ESTJ uncles maniacally making me mix concrete for a supposed shed being built 😂 - it was all horrible at the time but I think it helped me reevaluate my life at a young age, I used to live in a dreamworld while doing these tasks, desperately trying to imagine a happy future for myself. Horrible as it was I wonder if I would have been as ‘emotional balanced’ (externally) I feel I’ve been over the years. Lots of think about, a great video and I would be wise to steal this idea for a future video. I’ll have a think.
I think now we absolutely need to hear about your time on the farm. If it sounds horrible, it's because it probably was -- "builds character", they say. I s'pose if trauma and character are interchangeable...
Also I think you have it exactly right, having the range of experiences to draw from, even some bad ones, makes for better balance later in life. What I didn't mention about the chopping wood experience is that one day as we were cutting and splitting, my dad took off most of two upper fingers with a power saw. The emergency room managed to save them. More evidence to stay away from power tools.
Gouda morning your way, Dulles. Oh yes, this is very relevant here. As awkward as I am, both physically and otherwise...I've done manual work most of my life and found the benefits for most of the reasons and aspect you've mentioned. I find it's also a way to be in two places at once, especially indeed, with repetitive activities. Some people would say, "I would go bonkers having to do that over and over again." Perhaps I already have though it leaves room for daydreaming and shaking loose the sediment of other ideas, plans, imaginings that wouldn't quite come into focus when I was just plain 'doing nothing'. Thank you for this as ever, good sir. By the way, "Dulles wielding other implements of destruction" is an image I just can't quite shake now.... 🙂 -Carm P.S. My personal favorite Meredith Monk albums are 'Facing North' and Turtle Dreams'...those may be best for starters. 🐢
💙Thank you Gorvo! "Imaginings that wouldn't come into focus when I was 'doing nothing'" hits the nail on the head squarely. Leaf season invites us to work, and to ponder.
And thank you for the tip! "Turtle Dreams" is a terrific name for an album, so I will try that route.
Hi there, Dulles. and Hello to your lil EP🐧friend on the shelf.
you mention dark ruminating thoughts...3:30
“Most of us do not like not being able to see what others see or make sense of something new. We do not like it when things do not come together and [fi*t ] nicely for us.
That is why most popular movies have Hollywood endings. The public prefers a tidy finale. And we especially do not like it when things are contradictory, because then it is much harder to reconcile them (this is particularly true for Westerners).
This sense of confusion triggers in a us a feeling of noxious anxiety. It generates tension. So we feel compelled to reduce it, solve it, complete it, reconcile it, make it make sense.
And when we do solve these puzzles, there's relief. It feels good.
We REALLY like it when things come together.
What I am describing is a very basic human psychological process, captured by the second Gestalt principle.
It is what we call the 'press for coherence.'
It has been called many different things in psychology: consonance, need for closure, congruity, harmony, need for meaning, the consistency principle.
At its core it is the drive to reduce the tension, disorientation, and dissonance that come from complexity, incoherence, and contradiction.
In the 1930s, Bluma Zeigarnik, a student of Lewin's in Berlin, designed a famous study to test the impact of this idea of tension and coherence.
Lewin had noticed that waiters in his local cafe seemed to have better recollections of unpaid orders than of those already settled.
A lab study was run to examine this phenomenon, and it showed that people tend to remember uncompleted tasks, like half-finished math or word problems, better than completed tasks.
This is because the unfinished task triggers a feeling of tension, which gets associated with the task and keeps it lingering in our minds.
The completed problems are, well, complete, so we forget them and move on.
They later called this the 'Zeigarnik effect,' and it has influenced the study of many things, from advertising campaigns to coping with the suicide of loved ones to dysphoric rumination of past conflicts.”
― Peter T. Coleman, The Five Percent: Finding Solutions to Seemingly Impossible Conflicts
and 'shovels and other implements of destruction', oh gosh Dulles, spoken like an intuitive which makes
purrfe*ct se*nse to me.
🥄
The need to assign meaning to things, I think this is fundamental Wynstan'sMom. This "processing" of ideas and how they're felt out, is all about turning things over from this perspective and that, and possibly feeling out different scenarios and how they would play out.
So there are a couple moving parts, creating hypotheticals, running them through , feeling them out. Often there is a feeling resolution that X is the proper response -- the proper way to think about it. Ironically that never has to translate into action: If I respond with X, it is the right thing to do. But now that I know the right solution, I'm done. What? Actually do it? Why?"
love the thumbnail.
I hope the graphic is not too much 'crazy axe person'. There's a Yankee saying, something about that wood keeps a person warm many times over. One gets warm chopping it, cutting it, moving it, splitting it, stacking it, hauling it ... and finally burning it.
The kids in the suburbs had cable TV. I lived more than two miles out on a rural road, so there was over-the-air TV and wood.
@@dulles1969 No the axe is perfect. I much prefer the rural life myself. Nice.