Barbie is deliberately imperfect at the beginning but overcomes it by the end. Similiar with characters like Joy from InsideOut which are clearly too controlling over the ones around them like the Barbies are with Kens.
This movie will have a sweet spot in my heart forever. When I watched this movie, I cried because it felt so close to home. That being said, I loved Ken and still do. I believe that the movie never meant to make Ken out as the villein but rather to show how the gender roles in movies and in real life are to the extreme. In most movies women are always seen as the "sexy secretary", now I know not all movies are like that, but MOST are. The role of a women was to be there for the men, but Ken goes to show what happens when you switch the roles and how the group in that role will react. Men are almost never seen acting the way the kens do in the movie. Because of this it feels degrading in a way to see it pictured as such. "Lesser than a woman." I believe we are all equal no matter what. Ken is just Ken, someone who is trying to find himself in a world where women have more control. When you watch the movie try seeing the Kens as the women and the Barbie as the men. As you said in the video "all that the kens want is to live their own life" There are some parts in the movie I don't like, and I do think the movie could have done better. There are many scenes in the movie that may seem silly like the scene where barbie gets harassed. I hear many people say that crap like that just doesn't happen when it really does. There have been may times where I'm just walking, and some guy pulls over his car just to hit on me. Even after I tell them I'm not interested and underage they still keep going. There have been times when I get told at a job interview that my natural hair is "unprofessional for the workplace." I'm African American and I have very curly hair, I normally where it in an afro. I know you didn't really talk about those parts and that's ok, I just felt like it needed to be said. I love your videos keep up the good work. Sorry if what I'm saying seems messy, I'm not good at writing. Have a good day.
Barbie wasn't awake at the start of the movie. She doesn't see anyone as a real person. She's having the best day of her life, every day. Ken was awake to the fact that he had needs (Barbie's attention) that weren't being met. He was made to need her, but she wasn't made to need him. She's not totally oblivious. When Ken says, "Hi Barbie", she says, "Hi Ken!" with just as much enthusiasm as she greets the other Barbies. But when she greets the other Ken just as cheerily, he deflates a little. All the Kens are competitive, but he's the only one who sees injustice. They don't even know that they don't have homes.
@@TheRojo387 yes the Barbies and Kens are dolls. Have you seen them eat in the movie? it’s plastic food and they don’t actually put it in their mouths.
Ken was my favourite character from his first bit where he tries to win over Barbie, it already conveyed that he was literally me (this movie was my second Ryan Bowling movie after La La Land and nothing anyone says prepared me for how me he is), he was going to try and get the one thing he's wanted for so long and is humiliated when he fails. The most powerful bit, at least for me, is when Barbie has her mental breakdown, not because of Barbie but because you can still see Ken slumped over in the background think about it, he just pushed away his one main goal, it's sad. Apart from this, great video man, hope this channel keeps growing
@@nitrozeus6393 The ones who want to gr00m children and sexualize them, the ones who complain about capitalism while engaging in it. The ones who support communism which has exterminated 100 million people. \ That kind.
4:11 the movie mentions that the Ken will have as much power as women in real world, but the women distribution i the Supreme Court is literally 4/9 in the real world, and so in BarbieLand the Ken representation is ZERO for equality ? Wtf
You can tell that they had no idea what message they wanted so they crammed a bunch of them into one messy script. Making Ken the bad guy was such a bad move, the movie just turned against any potential it could have had.
I was so excited to see this movie my whole family went. I loved the set design and costumes, but the plot was just icky. It made all of the men seem either stupid or evil. As the target audience of a young liberal female, I despised this film. Ken was 1000% in the right and Barbie was in the wrong. I thought the movie would end with the Kens and Barbies agreeing that they should all be equal- but no. Instead, all of the Barbies took control just like before. What was the point? The Barbies were the ones brainwashing and the Kens didn't brainwash anyone, the Barbies under Kendom were literally just having fun until main Barbie convinced them otherwise. Not to mention how they claim this mimics real-life patriarchy in America, but reversed..? Like, it's not even close!
Oh, but it _does_ have equality... the militantly gynocentric definition of "eQuAlItY." You see, gynocentrists like Greta Gerwig's definition of "eQuAlItY" is the one from Animal Farm: "Men and women are equal, but women are _more_ equal than men." The movie gives it away within the first five minutes; it calls the tyrannically matriarchal Barbieland a place where "eQuAlItY" has been achieved, because that's the feminist ideal of "eQuAlItY;" where women are "most more equal" than men. "eQuAlItY" is the lie they tell to everyone, including themselves, to deceive all who hear them (including themselves) that their gender-based coup and generations-long scheme to usurp the human condition itself is somehow noble, like they're not also the people who's movement wrote The SCUM Manifesto or tweet out hashtags with calls to exterminate half the human race.
Yeah, it was kind of weird where in the end the Kens ask for a little bit of power and the Barbies basically say "maybe later" as if the Kens have done something wrong that needs to be fixed before they can make the Kens more equal. Like what though? They took over for a few days? How many decades were the Barbies doing just that?
a lot of people were so upset that Margot didn’t get a Oscar nomination for her acting as barbie, but honestly the writing for barbie just wasn’t interesting enough!! It’s sad that she was supposed to be the star of the show but ken had my attention the whole time
I see what your getting at, still I liked it though and I think the whole thing wrapped up pretty nice. Barbie apologized for treating ken poorly, ken apologized for brainwashing the other barbies. The whole lesson is that you are enough as you are. Made sense to me
Honestly I have never thought Ken was a villian or vice versa. Ken's acts just felt like if you give lower class of society same power the upper class class had; they would act same. So problem is not that people are evil but people tend to see other side evil where there should be just mutual understanding of each other. It wasn't something said out loud in movie but at the end Ken didn't treat as evil and Barbie felt sorry how she act before. I watched the movie with my sis and she suprised how I liked a modern feminist movie and I honestly never felt like it, story felt sarcastic when it was sexist since it goes both ways but one side was more than other. Males were stupid, emotionally immature and lacking self worth. While females were selfish, manipulative and emotionally weak (since they accepted the very first time Ken's took action and became total bimbos) I don't know if director intented for it or it was just thanks to Margot Robbie and other actors acting in times of sexist jokes but at the end there was no bad people but bad situations
Ken isn't really a "villain" or a "hero," he's just a character who goes through a sort of moral arc, the same as Barbie. The Mattel CEO guy is the villain of the film. I didn't get the vibe at all that you're supposed to 100% sympathize with Barbie when Ken takes over, it's more like an "Everyone is an asshole" type of situation. Ken retaliates in frustration of being mistreated, completely turns the tables off-balance, and realizes he went too overboard in the end. Barbie had it coming, sure, but there were undeniably transgressions on both sides, and I felt like the movie made this pretty clear. Her whole attitude when Ken takes over is treated really pouty in an obviously satirical sort of way, like "omg this isn't fair, how could this hapennnn 😭" Edit: Side note, I feel like the whole "Ken takes over" part of movie might be satire of, like, fear mongering of feminism. The idea that "feminists are just trying to turn the tables on men and take over." Well, this movie does that, except it flips the genders around. It does this, while simultaneously also being a genuine criticism of one gender dominating another-in the real world, this is patriarchy. In Barbieland, this is matriarchy.
A lot of the time, art is in the eye of the beholder. You can take whatever meaning you want from a film. So I liked this film because I chose to view it as satire. I think everyone should see it because it's objective message is positive. However, I completely agree that it was not intended to be that. You can see that from the way that the director, Greta Gerwig, talks about the film. She does not view the film as 'just satire'. She wholeheartedly agrees with the feminist messaging and thinks the protagonists are justified in their actions (though I get the feeling Margot Robbie has a different interpretation). It's really just an incompetently made film (in terms of story at least) that unknowingly made its 'antagonist' the most likeable and justified character in the film and its 'protagonists' pretentious, unsympathetic, and cruel. And that's f*cking hilarious to me.
i view this movie similarly, ken is a tragic hero, fighting against a system thats oppressed him and his people for so long because he finally realized that things can be different, and at the peak of his victory his desire for a womans attention causes his downfall, and hes manipulated into believing that he was wrong for ever wanting anything
@toetruck1589 Ken isn't really a "villain" or a "hero," he's just a character who goes through a sort of moral arc, the same as Barbie. It's kind of an "Everyone is an asshole" type of situation. Ken retaliates in frustration of being mistreated, completely turns the tables off-balance, and realizes he went too overboard in the end. Barbie graduates from vapid dick to actual human being with a conscience... while Ken graduates from object of desire to vapid dick to actual human being with a conscience. This part is more up for interpretation, but I think of Ken's arc as satire of the infamous fear-mongering strawman of "feminists just want to flip the script and take over completely." It's that whole song-and-dance, except it's gender-swapped. Ken didn't really do anything heroic until maybe the very end, where he comes down from his power high. Also, the moral of his story is not "you were wrong for ever wanting anything," the moral is "you were wrong for lashing out disproportionately." Heroism is selfless and sacrificial. Those words do not describe Ken's takeover. So... tragic? Absolutely, if you ignore the end of the movie. Heroic? Not really.
The "everyone is an asshole" bit is really important, because one of the major points of the movie is that a system that arbitrarily divides people will inevitably turn most of them into assholes (in this case, matriarchy/patriarchy/sexism in general)
And the movie literally never shames Ken for wanting freedom, on the contrary it explicitly tels him to be independant. His only real issue was basing his worth on whether barbie likes him or not (as some men do). His Ken kingdom is just a manifestation of this insecurity just as barbieland is a manifestation of hers. The movie makes fun of both, and even though barbie wins, she isn't praised for it because that isnt the point. The point is that Ken is enough by himself and that Barbie doesn't need to be perfect or live in a perfect world. The movie is about male and female struggles with social expectations and inequality.
THIS I was honestly disturbed by the ending of the movie. The Kens are treated like second class citizens and at the end it just... Goes back to that? What? To me it seemed like the Kens in matriarchal Barbieland represented women in the 60's patriarchy or something. The message would have been so much better if the film was about showing how objectification (like how the Barbies treat the Kens) can be used to stereotype *anyone* and deem them as less than another, and how that can lead to extremism and anger... And how we all want to be seen as who we are inside, not on our love life or gender stereotypes ("I'm Just Ken") Instead there's that terrible magical monologue about all the things women go through which somehow the matriarchal privileged Barbies relate to, when not even I as a woman did. I related more to the Kens.
I understand for the most part and agree with your comment but to act like the magical monologue wasn't true to reality feels purposefully obtuse, just because you didn't personally relate doesn't mean it's not reality for many of us
@@blossomentrails3398 the monologue's whole theme is that it's something that will awaken *all* of the Barbies, since it's the "woman's life experience". I'm not saying those issues aren't real for some people, but if it's thd speech supposed to reach all women and I'm a woman and don't even vaguely relate, it's doing something wrong. On the other hand, I think every woman at some point (no matter how momentarily) has felt like somewhat of an accessory compared to men (like the Kens).
Movies can be political without making the act of watching them political. Would you criticize South park in the same way? I imagine a lot of people watch it without political motivation, I know I do. And there is nothing paradoxical about that. Just because this movie's politics make you angry doesn't mean it's wrong to be political. And let's be honest, it's almost impossible not to make a political statement in this day and age.
You can have politics. But it takes the spotlight in this movie especially with America's speech. Barbie princess and the pauper had a political problem but that was a tool and not a message in the movie. That movie was a better movie than barbie 2023 imo 😂
I'm a guy and from my pov i think the entire point of the movie was to cartoonishly criminalise the patriarchy to the point its clearly overrxagurated but also gets its point across about feminism. It rarely takes the political ideas seriously besides maybe a couple of scenes near the end because its a comedy!! It shows the stereotypes of how Barbie world would work.
Ken is not made to be the villain. He’s an antagonist, there’s a difference. And they knew people like you were going to say “omg kens didn’t get their freedom!” It’s Barbie world. Barbies, AND ken dolls are made for little girls to play with. Look me in my eyes and tell me 50% of little boys are going to play with ken dolls. That’s why at the end of the movie the narrator says “maybe one day kens will have as much power as women have in the real world”. IT WAS LITERALLY THE POINT that they didn’t have power in a WOMANS world. You need to be more objective in your take. The basic point of the movie is “Barbie discovers the struggles of womanhood in the real world and she decides to embrace it in the name of becoming human. Ken goes to the real world and enforces patriarchy and kicks Barbie out of her house and throws her clothes out the window” They literally showed Barbie in kens position and Ken in Barbie’s. Barbie treated him like every other person but Ken lashed out at her. That was a major WOOSH over your head
the diffrence tho was the barbies was happy even tho ken was in control and the ending where they use the kens feelings against them really rubbed me the wrong way did it for you or is that just me
Yes. And the way they go about this is to circle the movie back to where it started, with the Barbies having full power again and saying they will "give the Kens a chance the same way us women have to fight in the real world". Which is nonsensical as fuck and the message, in the end, is STILL SHITTY.
@@joshuaanderson7027 But that’s the point. They were conveying “ignorance is bliss”. Both Kens and the Barbies were fine being in the “submissive” role when they didn’t know better. But where as the kens were doing what they liked “beaching off” “surfing” “working out” while Barbie was in charge, Barbies were turned into maids/servants when Ken was in charge. Ken was mean and enforcing power when he was in charge. Barbie was treating Ken like any other doll while focusing on her friends instead of a boyfriend.
@@sasha_vb Mmm no. Again Barbie’s are in charge because Mattel caters to little girls. They will always want the pretty Barbie doll and only a guy doll to be her boyfriend. And as I explain in my other rely when Barbie was in charge the kens still did what they liked but also really wanted the boyfriend roll. When Ken was in charge the Barbie’s were maids and servants fetching beers for them. It showed that even in the exact same position, barbie was morally more sound than Ken. And yes in the end it circles back to the same state where Barbie’s ruler of BARBIE world. Here’s the thing. They admit at the end that kens deserve their space and roles in barbie society. When barbie is co fronted with the truth she admits her wrong doings and tries to right things. When Ken learns the truth he lashes out and is a bitch to barbie kicking her out of her home instead of using his power to build his own. That was the only “villainous” actions but even then the movie made it a point to show her was sad and hurt. Even in a women empowerment movie they make sure to point out and give sympathy to men who may be lashing out. What more do you want.
This was a great analysis about how I feel and you are absolutely right about the schafrilla guy. The guy is a huge leftwing nut. I realized that years ago when he spent like 1/5 of his analysis of Captain Marvel telling anyone who disagreed with the movie for its obvious political message as "Whiny manbabies" or something to that effect. So I'm glad you also see through that guy's grifting. But what I think was that barbie was supposed to be a pro feminist film but it came off so jaded and antagonistic that of course it's no surprise it would be lambasted. You got yourself a sub friend!
3:02 REEEE REEEE BEING FAT IS A GOOD THING AND ISTN AN OBJECTIVELY BAD THING IN ALL ASPECTS OF DAILY LIFE!!! SOMETHING SOMETHING MEDIEVAL KINGS SOMETHING SOMETHING FATPH- oh wait i mean PLUSSIZEPHOBE *has a heart attack*
Kens being oppressed was *supposed* to be a metaphor for how women are treated, only in the real world we see every movie promote women as girl bosses. So the "real world" is a lie and "Barbie Land" is actually more accurate to 2020's society, where men (especially white and straight) are antagonised endlessly by the media. This movie is so woke and un-self aware that it tries to say Barbie Land is a utopia. When in reality, so many of us are annoyed by constant politics shoved down our throats, we know this movie's "real world" is a feminist lie, so Ken standing up to this rubbish inspires many who hate all this politically charged BS. Young men know how embarrassing/humiliating it is to ask a girl out ,with the fear of being rejected or coined as a creep for daring to like a female. So seeing Ken try and fail is incredibly relatable to all the lonely men just trying to get lucky. Justice Warriors don't understand that by depicting these acts of desperation as "creepy" is actually insulting half the world's population (and even women who are happily married to men would find this attitude revolting). The average person who isn't a activist will support Ken and have nothing but disdain towards Barbie and her smug entitlement against the opposite sex. Most people know better than to start gender wars because it's ultimately childish, silly and shallow to judge anyone based on mere gender. The film runs with the idea that the audience should already hate men from the get go, and that they are already villians because you're supposed to hate them without any good reason beforehand. Yet they unintentionally build Ken up as underdog who raises above the "matriarchy" and creates a new society that benefits men over women. If a sane person wrote this movie, the ending would be a compromise, where Barbies and Kens come to an agreement where both men and women are treated equally and jobs best suited to specific gender roles would be distributed evenly. But of course, the film presumes you're a full blown feminist who wants to see men fail, so it humiliates all kens instead and expects the audience to cheer and be glad men can't have any power whatsoever. Yet this line of thinking goes against human nature and society itself. The average person wants to settle down, have kids, get married and continue their family tree. This is 90% of the planet's dream and goal. There are only a small handful of narcissists who want to go against this norm and call anyone who wants to settle down old fashioned and regressive. That's the hilarious irony of Ken. He wants what most people want, he represents the majority of people who just want respect and love, those who don't see nothing wrong with that. The Barbie's represent the infuriating vocal minority who want to control *everything* like tyrants, yet claim to be victims. The every man does not relate to that, Ken is everything people who respect traditional values strive for.
Just a bit of input here, A real feminist fights for equal rights, The people who call themselves feminists and say that men should be lower than them aren't actually feminists. I agree with your point, though.
0:48 Maybe he isn't evil because he literally isn't meant to be a villain or to actually be evil. The movie's point is basically about how the patriarchy fucks all of us up, no matter the gender. Ken isn't the villain because the movie isn't about heroes or villains. It's basically patriarchy but make it matriarchy. Even at the start of the movie says that it's the opposite of the real world, Barbieland isn't supposed to resemble anything real. You know how women used to have no rights? Barbieland is supposed to be the opposite. I think the flaw of this video is the obesession with looking for a bad guy and a good guy. The point of the movie is that Barbieland is just as messed up as the real world, both extremes of male supremacy and female supremacy are wrong. And constantly trying to make sense of it superficially feels really off. No hate though💪
@nitrozeus6393 no, Ken makes bad decisions (because of a misunderstanding) but it does not really make him a true villain. He is just confused, and most audiences have sympathy for him.
The moment I unsubscribed to Schaffrillas was when he tried to criticize Ratatouille for not being political enough. He definitely has a good understanding of how movies work and definitely how it should be told to both children and adults, but it’s when he wants the artist to shovel more content down people’s throats is what really got me disinterested. Like trying to expand on the side characters to the point they might as well be main characters, or explain the patriarchy threw the female character to children who came to watch a film about a rat and a custodian making food. I unsubscribe to a few RUclipsrs who feel like they tried to sell me something outside of the subject matter I clicked on (Not necessarily commercial stuff). To me, it seems this small backlash he has is a lot to do with him wanting small things in children’s shows and movies to be expanded on to the point it clogs the movie with content, sometimes even content inappropriate for children. When RUclipsrs usually do this, I just roll my eyes to such nonsense. It’s one thing to have useless mediocre cardboard side characters, it’s another to have side characters with a lore as long as middle earth and explain complex debatable themes to children that they will ether be confused or disinterested in.
I agree with you. I remember watching his Star Wars critique and already knew, from his first video, what his political leanings were, right up until he made a review of captain marvel, the second and last I watched from him, and he just insulted people who didn't like the film as "manbabies", and I just never watched anything from him again.
@@SpidaMez Because creators like Schaffrillas believe you should shove politics into everything. The guy is very far left and woke. He made a case of why it's okay to surgically transition kids under 18 (I believe, take it with a grain of salt). While I agree it's bad with both sides, I see the left doing this much more and more egregiously compared to right wingers.
I'm pretty sure everything you pointed out is addressed in the movie and is the actual plot as opposed to the helping a little girl narrative you proposed. Ken being treated horribly is a parody of how women were treated horribly in the real world for the better part of history and are still hardly on equal footing with men. Ken IS a hero of his own story. He gets his own song and character arc as well as a resolution. He is likeable but misguided and the movie doesn't judge him too harshly for this. Barbie on the other hand is purposely flawed and her coldness towards ken and egocentricism prove to be her downfall. One could compare her attitude to that of a man too insecure to ackgnowledge the struggle of women. Again, the main joke of the movie is that in Barbieland the roles of men and women are swapped and comically exaggerated. The movie concludes by pointing out the flaws of this uneven society and making things better for the kens and hopes that the same will happen in our world. Yes the patriarchy is unfortunately a real issue we still have and the movie is right to criticize it, and people are right to discuss it therefore.
I think movies should put political Messages in some kind of a grey area like in the legend of korra like in the the first season, Amon wants non-bender rights and he’s kinda like ken where they use force and violence too get what they what. But they take away benders ability to bend. Which is like if you forced someone to switch skin colour. Which makes him a hypocrite because he is suppressing benders.
The Barbie Movie is a movie to promote Barbie Basically no plot and Ken just gets treated like crap and some ppl agree that Barbie is the good gal and the movie is a message saying that "girls get treated worse than boys" while it can be the OTHER WAY AROUND better message: EVERYONE should be treated equally (except those rlly bad ppl)
I feel like this is a pretty bad take all around and fails to understand the difference between the way Barbie treated Ken at the start and how Ken treated Barbie during the movie. Barbie just wasn't intrested in Ken at the start of the movie, she wasn't rude in any way she just rejected his advances and that's attacking Ken somehow? Is she not allowed to not be intrested in him? The Kens in general were also happy at the start of the movie, they were invited to the party and were having fun. The only one who wasn't was the main Ken who was too focused on getting Barbies attention. Ken on the other hand, when he takes control of barbieland, actively treats all the Barbies as objects. They are wearing maid dresses, they are quite literally serving him and the other Kens yet there is nothing wrong with it? That is the double standard that the movie calls out, that in a world controlled by men the problem isn't that women are just secondary characters but that they are actively below men, unlike the other way around. I would also like to point out a very telling detail: at the end of the movie Barbie apologizes to Ken for basically not giving him enough attention because even after everything that happened he still feels entitled to it, yet Ken never apologizes to barbie for subjucating her friends and taking away their freedom.
yet they had to be told their being brainwashed? the Barbie's looked happy too so idk what you mean and in the video he said its fine that barbie didnt like ken did you watch it properly also ken wasnt treated well bro was so happy when someone said excuse me in the real world bro like?????
@@joshuaanderson7027Yes they had to be told. And they were told they were brainwashed how did they react? Were the Barbies happy with their brainwashed lives? Or did they walk away? If the Barbies were truly happy then they would've stayed as maids despite not being brainwashed. I repeat, the only Ken that wasn't content with the way things were run was the Ken that we follow. None of the other Ken's seemed to be discontent with their lives. When Ken got injured at the start of the movie Barbie took him to the ambulance and comforted him. I genuinely don't see where he was treated badly. Also you completely ignored the apology part. Even if we asume Ken did nothing wrong in the sense that patriarchy in the barbieworld wasn't bad and he wasn't wrong in introducing it, he still betrayed Barbie's trust and took over her house. Does that not warrant an "I'm sorry"? Especially considering how much he says he values Barbie
It's ironically a very conservative film. The traditional order of Barbie land is upheld by stamping out the radical oposition represented by the Kens. Change is avoided, and nothing about the social order has shifted.
The ending was bad. The fact that Barbies took back control was bad. Nothing was resolved, NOTHING. There has to be equity, remember? Equity? That word in which describes FAIRNESS?
@@katieparks5917 yes you're right I have several friends who are feminist. But your statement seems, in my opinion, to corroborate in a way what I had written. "At least polite" is a very low goal. I'm at least polite toward people I don't like. Why not aiming higher ? Why not trying to be understanding ? Why not trying to make an effort to question man hating thoughts ? Why not adressing unfair issues to men caused by feminist who goes too far ? Why not wanting a peacefull coexistence ? Some feminist gets angry when men say not all men, they get angry when men don't want to support feminism. Perhaps if feminist started attacking man hating people, then men would be more willing to be feminist as I used to be. I'm certain that if feminist started to recognize and criticize man hating behaviour, speeches and all the modern prejudices towards men caused by their cause, then modern feminism would be better and more popular as a result.
bro missed the whole point of the movie, Barbies are portrayed as men in this world, the roles are reversed. The kens have the same role women have in the real world.
i see people complaining sm about gosling getting an award because "but... da movie... was about heckin feminism" yeah and? it did a terrible job, stop saying its good just because it tried (and failed) to have a message you agree with
By the movie's (filmmaker's) own flawed logic here, if all the Ken's "transitioned" to Barbies then and ONLY then would they be granted "equal rights." Also there's that really horribly passing trans Barbie in the film that just constantly reinforces this point. 🤣
You're missing the whole point of the movie... The dynamic of how the Kens are treated in the barbie world is supposed to represent how women is represented in the real world, obviously in an exagerated way so don't start spitting foam at the sight of that sentence. The moment you said that his changes in barbie world were actually good and even the barbies looked happy just confirmes that you just missed the whole point. Of course the representation of the kens looks bad, THAT'S THE POINT. OF COURSE Ken is supposed to be look as bad transforming barbie world, the same way a woman would look bad making the world a place where only woman can be in power and men are just slaves, THAT'S THE POINT. Also an antagonist is not the same as a villan... You really should know that...
3:03 cute video! just this comment is so unhinged for no reason, it sounds like you don't want the barbies to be fat but also shame the movie from 'hiding' them from the trailers. Babes I think they're just try to be body positive. 😭 I mean some people proportions can be larger and they are 100% health and workout while others can be normal skinny and still unhealthy. Weight does not equal health most cases and it's still to think of it that way.
Actually most of the population in the US dies of obesity, it is a disease, there is a reason why the doctor weights you. In my opinion, if you have a medical condition that makes you fat and there is no way to loose weight then you should accept you the way you are and yes clothing shops should have an option for these people. But if that is not the case, then we shouldn’t romanticize being overweight and instead try to achieve a more healthy lifestyle
I think everyone gets that it’s gender-swapped (they pretty much say it at the end). The problem I think most people have is the tone-deaf solution that the movie brings to conclude the story.
You really had me with this whole movie not making sense, but preaching about empathy and then having a moment dedicated to being fat phobic out of nowhere is extremely tone-deaf and hurtful.
He wasn't being fat phobic. The whole point of Barbie is representation, and why would anyone want to be fat. If someone is skinny or average weight, I would imagine that they don't want to become fat.
If the goal of Barbie was representation then they did a horrible job because having only 1 person that's plus size but appeals to every single other convention beauty standard, no.@@Looona_fan
I truly want to enjoy this movie as much as possible so please tell me if there is another way to interpret these scenes.
I can defend this movie because of Ken it’s basically so far feminist that it falls flat on it’s face and makes Ken the hero
@@brendannelson525 you bozos use the word feminism as if it doesn’t want to help men as well 💀 y’all act like it only for women
Barbie is deliberately imperfect at the beginning but overcomes it by the end. Similiar with characters like Joy from InsideOut which are clearly too controlling over the ones around them like the Barbies are with Kens.
This movie will have a sweet spot in my heart forever. When I watched this movie, I cried because it felt so close to home. That being said, I loved Ken and still do. I believe that the movie never meant to make Ken out as the villein but rather to show how the gender roles in movies and in real life are to the extreme. In most movies women are always seen as the "sexy secretary", now I know not all movies are like that, but MOST are. The role of a women was to be there for the men, but Ken goes to show what happens when you switch the roles and how the group in that role will react. Men are almost never seen acting the way the kens do in the movie. Because of this it feels degrading in a way to see it pictured as such. "Lesser than a woman." I believe we are all equal no matter what. Ken is just Ken, someone who is trying to find himself in a world where women have more control. When you watch the movie try seeing the Kens as the women and the Barbie as the men. As you said in the video "all that the kens want is to live their own life" There are some parts in the movie I don't like, and I do think the movie could have done better. There are many scenes in the movie that may seem silly like the scene where barbie gets harassed. I hear many people say that crap like that just doesn't happen when it really does. There have been may times where I'm just walking, and some guy pulls over his car just to hit on me. Even after I tell them I'm not interested and underage they still keep going. There have been times when I get told at a job interview that my natural hair is "unprofessional for the workplace." I'm African American and I have very curly hair, I normally where it in an afro. I know you didn't really talk about those parts and that's ok, I just felt like it needed to be said. I love your videos keep up the good work. Sorry if what I'm saying seems messy, I'm not good at writing. Have a good day.
Ken did nothing wrong.
i was actually rooting for ken in this movie. i also like that song i'm just ken.
Same, best part of the movie.
Honestly, the part that upsets me the most is how they treated Alan in this movie.
that's the joke
@@regiboi7709 How is that a joke.
@@Looona_fan Alan is a joke character but also a normal character
@@regiboi7709 If that's the case, then that makes this movie suck balls.
And weird Barbie especially
Barbie wasn't awake at the start of the movie. She doesn't see anyone as a real person. She's having the best day of her life, every day. Ken was awake to the fact that he had needs (Barbie's attention) that weren't being met. He was made to need her, but she wasn't made to need him.
She's not totally oblivious. When Ken says, "Hi Barbie", she says, "Hi Ken!" with just as much enthusiasm as she greets the other Barbies. But when she greets the other Ken just as cheerily, he deflates a little. All the Kens are competitive, but he's the only one who sees injustice. They don't even know that they don't have homes.
I that's true, then the Barbies and the Kens aren't even human. Their needs don't even line up with human needs (food, water, shelter, sleep).
@@TheRojo387 yes the Barbies and Kens are dolls. Have you seen them eat in the movie? it’s plastic food and they don’t actually put it in their mouths.
Ken was my favourite character from his first bit where he tries to win over Barbie, it already conveyed that he was literally me (this movie was my second Ryan Bowling movie after La La Land and nothing anyone says prepared me for how me he is), he was going to try and get the one thing he's wanted for so long and is humiliated when he fails. The most powerful bit, at least for me, is when Barbie has her mental breakdown, not because of Barbie but because you can still see Ken slumped over in the background think about it, he just pushed away his one main goal, it's sad. Apart from this, great video man, hope this channel keeps growing
Why is your channel so underrated , like its one of the most interesting film reviews i have had in a long time
I just need to be able to upload more frequently. I’ll be able to better my process over time.
Schaffrillas is a turboleftist so of course he would say that.
Sorry what’s a turboleftist?
@@nitrozeus6393 The ones who want to gr00m children and sexualize them, the ones who complain about capitalism while engaging in it. The ones who support communism which has exterminated 100 million people. \ That kind.
4:11 the movie mentions that the Ken will have as much power as women in real world, but the women distribution i the Supreme Court is literally 4/9 in the real world, and so in BarbieLand the Ken representation is ZERO for equality ? Wtf
Yes! Exactly
You can tell that they had no idea what message they wanted so they crammed a bunch of them into one messy script. Making Ken the bad guy was such a bad move, the movie just turned against any potential it could have had.
"I'm letting you be any kind of slave you want, how dare you to be asking for more?"
I was so excited to see this movie my whole family went. I loved the set design and costumes, but the plot was just icky. It made all of the men seem either stupid or evil. As the target audience of a young liberal female, I despised this film. Ken was 1000% in the right and Barbie was in the wrong. I thought the movie would end with the Kens and Barbies agreeing that they should all be equal- but no. Instead, all of the Barbies took control just like before. What was the point? The Barbies were the ones brainwashing and the Kens didn't brainwash anyone, the Barbies under Kendom were literally just having fun until main Barbie convinced them otherwise. Not to mention how they claim this mimics real-life patriarchy in America, but reversed..? Like, it's not even close!
My boy Alan wasn’t happy
Flip the gender and see if it's alright
Oh, but it _does_ have equality... the militantly gynocentric definition of "eQuAlItY." You see, gynocentrists like Greta Gerwig's definition of "eQuAlItY" is the one from Animal Farm: "Men and women are equal, but women are _more_ equal than men."
The movie gives it away within the first five minutes; it calls the tyrannically matriarchal Barbieland a place where "eQuAlItY" has been achieved, because that's the feminist ideal of "eQuAlItY;" where women are "most more equal" than men.
"eQuAlItY" is the lie they tell to everyone, including themselves, to deceive all who hear them (including themselves) that their gender-based coup and generations-long scheme to usurp the human condition itself is somehow noble, like they're not also the people who's movement wrote The SCUM Manifesto or tweet out hashtags with calls to exterminate half the human race.
The feminist definition of "equality" is the one from Animal Farm: "Men and women are equal, but women are _more_ equal than men."
Worlds first based young liberal female????
As a young conservative male, I approve of this message 😉
BRO I KNEW I WASNT TRIPPIN WATCHING IT
Yeah, it was kind of weird where in the end the Kens ask for a little bit of power and the Barbies basically say "maybe later" as if the Kens have done something wrong that needs to be fixed before they can make the Kens more equal. Like what though? They took over for a few days? How many decades were the Barbies doing just that?
you could say the same exact thing about the real world, just the other way around
@jayerlofi that's the running joke, but it doesn't really match because Barbie Land is a eutopia, so there's really no reason to keep the Ken's down.
a lot of people were so upset that Margot didn’t get a Oscar nomination for her acting as barbie, but honestly the writing for barbie just wasn’t interesting enough!! It’s sad that she was supposed to be the star of the show but ken had my attention the whole time
I see what your getting at, still I liked it though and I think the whole thing wrapped up pretty nice. Barbie apologized for treating ken poorly, ken apologized for brainwashing the other barbies. The whole lesson is that you are enough as you are. Made sense to me
You said it like it is !! There really, really, should be more empathy towards the male gender in this movie
oppenheimer barely had any women in it and the ones in it werent treated righht but the men in barbie were appreciated a lot.
That’s not what he said and means though
Different time period more men were involved in the Manhattan project it is what it is
@@aWERFRGT6545BGFG unfortunately thats history
@@hanmitch457 and so is the barbie movie.
Honestly I have never thought Ken was a villian or vice versa. Ken's acts just felt like if you give lower class of society same power the upper class class had; they would act same. So problem is not that people are evil but people tend to see other side evil where there should be just mutual understanding of each other. It wasn't something said out loud in movie but at the end Ken didn't treat as evil and Barbie felt sorry how she act before.
I watched the movie with my sis and she suprised how I liked a modern feminist movie and I honestly never felt like it, story felt sarcastic when it was sexist since it goes both ways but one side was more than other. Males were stupid, emotionally immature and lacking self worth. While females were selfish, manipulative and emotionally weak (since they accepted the very first time Ken's took action and became total bimbos)
I don't know if director intented for it or it was just thanks to Margot Robbie and other actors acting in times of sexist jokes but at the end there was no bad people but bad situations
Ken isn't really a "villain" or a "hero," he's just a character who goes through a sort of moral arc, the same as Barbie. The Mattel CEO guy is the villain of the film. I didn't get the vibe at all that you're supposed to 100% sympathize with Barbie when Ken takes over, it's more like an "Everyone is an asshole" type of situation. Ken retaliates in frustration of being mistreated, completely turns the tables off-balance, and realizes he went too overboard in the end. Barbie had it coming, sure, but there were undeniably transgressions on both sides, and I felt like the movie made this pretty clear. Her whole attitude when Ken takes over is treated really pouty in an obviously satirical sort of way, like "omg this isn't fair, how could this hapennnn 😭"
Edit: Side note, I feel like the whole "Ken takes over" part of movie might be satire of, like, fear mongering of feminism. The idea that "feminists are just trying to turn the tables on men and take over." Well, this movie does that, except it flips the genders around. It does this, while simultaneously also being a genuine criticism of one gender dominating another-in the real world, this is patriarchy. In Barbieland, this is matriarchy.
A lot of the time, art is in the eye of the beholder. You can take whatever meaning you want from a film.
So I liked this film because I chose to view it as satire. I think everyone should see it because it's objective message is positive.
However, I completely agree that it was not intended to be that. You can see that from the way that the director, Greta Gerwig, talks about the film. She does not view the film as 'just satire'. She wholeheartedly agrees with the feminist messaging and thinks the protagonists are justified in their actions (though I get the feeling Margot Robbie has a different interpretation).
It's really just an incompetently made film (in terms of story at least) that unknowingly made its 'antagonist' the most likeable and justified character in the film and its 'protagonists' pretentious, unsympathetic, and cruel. And that's f*cking hilarious to me.
The movie name is The KEN
Where does she talk about the film? I gotta read this.
i view this movie similarly, ken is a tragic hero, fighting against a system thats oppressed him and his people for so long because he finally realized that things can be different, and at the peak of his victory his desire for a womans attention causes his downfall, and hes manipulated into believing that he was wrong for ever wanting anything
@toetruck1589 Ken isn't really a "villain" or a "hero," he's just a character who goes through a sort of moral arc, the same as Barbie. It's kind of an "Everyone is an asshole" type of situation. Ken retaliates in frustration of being mistreated, completely turns the tables off-balance, and realizes he went too overboard in the end. Barbie graduates from vapid dick to actual human being with a conscience... while Ken graduates from object of desire to vapid dick to actual human being with a conscience.
This part is more up for interpretation, but I think of Ken's arc as satire of the infamous fear-mongering strawman of "feminists just want to flip the script and take over completely." It's that whole song-and-dance, except it's gender-swapped.
Ken didn't really do anything heroic until maybe the very end, where he comes down from his power high. Also, the moral of his story is not "you were wrong for ever wanting anything," the moral is "you were wrong for lashing out disproportionately."
Heroism is selfless and sacrificial. Those words do not describe Ken's takeover.
So... tragic? Absolutely, if you ignore the end of the movie. Heroic? Not really.
The "everyone is an asshole" bit is really important, because one of the major points of the movie is that a system that arbitrarily divides people will inevitably turn most of them into assholes (in this case, matriarchy/patriarchy/sexism in general)
And the movie literally never shames Ken for wanting freedom, on the contrary it explicitly tels him to be independant. His only real issue was basing his worth on whether barbie likes him or not (as some men do). His Ken kingdom is just a manifestation of this insecurity just as barbieland is a manifestation of hers. The movie makes fun of both, and even though barbie wins, she isn't praised for it because that isnt the point. The point is that Ken is enough by himself and that Barbie doesn't need to be perfect or live in a perfect world. The movie is about male and female struggles with social expectations and inequality.
What do you mean ken is pointed in a negative light while Barbie is not.
@@nitrozeus6393 source?
@@RealAXork we are shown that ken creating equal rights. Is portrayed as a bad thing
THIS
I was honestly disturbed by the ending of the movie. The Kens are treated like second class citizens and at the end it just... Goes back to that? What?
To me it seemed like the Kens in matriarchal Barbieland represented women in the 60's patriarchy or something.
The message would have been so much better if the film was about showing how objectification (like how the Barbies treat the Kens) can be used to stereotype *anyone* and deem them as less than another, and how that can lead to extremism and anger... And how we all want to be seen as who we are inside, not on our love life or gender stereotypes ("I'm Just Ken")
Instead there's that terrible magical monologue about all the things women go through which somehow the matriarchal privileged Barbies relate to, when not even I as a woman did. I related more to the Kens.
I understand for the most part and agree with your comment but to act like the magical monologue wasn't true to reality feels purposefully obtuse, just because you didn't personally relate doesn't mean it's not reality for many of us
@@blossomentrails3398 the monologue's whole theme is that it's something that will awaken *all* of the Barbies, since it's the "woman's life experience". I'm not saying those issues aren't real for some people, but if it's thd speech supposed to reach all women and I'm a woman and don't even vaguely relate, it's doing something wrong. On the other hand, I think every woman at some point (no matter how momentarily) has felt like somewhat of an accessory compared to men (like the Kens).
Movies can be political without making the act of watching them political. Would you criticize South park in the same way? I imagine a lot of people watch it without political motivation, I know I do. And there is nothing paradoxical about that. Just because this movie's politics make you angry doesn't mean it's wrong to be political. And let's be honest, it's almost impossible not to make a political statement in this day and age.
You can have politics. But it takes the spotlight in this movie especially with America's speech. Barbie princess and the pauper had a political problem but that was a tool and not a message in the movie. That movie was a better movie than barbie 2023 imo 😂
I liked all barbie movies except this one bro , its clearly a feminazi propaganda piece
I'm a guy and from my pov i think the entire point of the movie was to cartoonishly criminalise the patriarchy to the point its clearly overrxagurated but also gets its point across about feminism. It rarely takes the political ideas seriously besides maybe a couple of scenes near the end because its a comedy!! It shows the stereotypes of how Barbie world would work.
Ken is not made to be the villain. He’s an antagonist, there’s a difference.
And they knew people like you were going to say “omg kens didn’t get their freedom!” It’s Barbie world. Barbies, AND ken dolls are made for little girls to play with. Look me in my eyes and tell me 50% of little boys are going to play with ken dolls. That’s why at the end of the movie the narrator says “maybe one day kens will have as much power as women have in the real world”. IT WAS LITERALLY THE POINT that they didn’t have power in a WOMANS world.
You need to be more objective in your take. The basic point of the movie is “Barbie discovers the struggles of womanhood in the real world and she decides to embrace it in the name of becoming human. Ken goes to the real world and enforces patriarchy and kicks Barbie out of her house and throws her clothes out the window”
They literally showed Barbie in kens position and Ken in Barbie’s. Barbie treated him like every other person but Ken lashed out at her. That was a major WOOSH over your head
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the diffrence tho was the barbies was happy even tho ken was in control and the ending where they use the kens feelings against them really rubbed me the wrong way did it for you or is that just me
Yes. And the way they go about this is to circle the movie back to where it started, with the Barbies having full power again and saying they will "give the Kens a chance the same way us women have to fight in the real world". Which is nonsensical as fuck and the message, in the end, is STILL SHITTY.
@@joshuaanderson7027 But that’s the point. They were conveying “ignorance is bliss”. Both Kens and the Barbies were fine being in the “submissive” role when they didn’t know better. But where as the kens were doing what they liked “beaching off” “surfing” “working out” while Barbie was in charge, Barbies were turned into maids/servants when Ken was in charge.
Ken was mean and enforcing power when he was in charge. Barbie was treating Ken like any other doll while focusing on her friends instead of a boyfriend.
@@sasha_vb Mmm no. Again Barbie’s are in charge because Mattel caters to little girls. They will always want the pretty Barbie doll and only a guy doll to be her boyfriend.
And as I explain in my other rely when Barbie was in charge the kens still did what they liked but also really wanted the boyfriend roll. When Ken was in charge the Barbie’s were maids and servants fetching beers for them. It showed that even in the exact same position, barbie was morally more sound than Ken.
And yes in the end it circles back to the same state where Barbie’s ruler of BARBIE world. Here’s the thing. They admit at the end that kens deserve their space and roles in barbie society. When barbie is co fronted with the truth she admits her wrong doings and tries to right things. When Ken learns the truth he lashes out and is a bitch to barbie kicking her out of her home instead of using his power to build his own. That was the only “villainous” actions but even then the movie made it a point to show her was sad and hurt.
Even in a women empowerment movie they make sure to point out and give sympathy to men who may be lashing out. What more do you want.
by the way the pure evil theme of diavolo suits the barbies very well
This was a great analysis about how I feel and you are absolutely right about the schafrilla guy. The guy is a huge leftwing nut. I realized that years ago when he spent like 1/5 of his analysis of Captain Marvel telling anyone who disagreed with the movie for its obvious political message as "Whiny manbabies" or something to that effect. So I'm glad you also see through that guy's grifting.
But what I think was that barbie was supposed to be a pro feminist film but it came off so jaded and antagonistic that of course it's no surprise it would be lambasted. You got yourself a sub friend!
I never felt like the barbie movie had a villain
I'm not entirely sure but it seemed to me to be a story about barbie learning to be human
You could easily say the CEO of Mattel was a villain, but he's not super relevant from what I remember.
Well said!
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Kens being oppressed was *supposed* to be a metaphor for how women are treated, only in the real world we see every movie promote women as girl bosses. So the "real world" is a lie and "Barbie Land" is actually more accurate to 2020's society, where men (especially white and straight) are antagonised endlessly by the media.
This movie is so woke and un-self aware that it tries to say Barbie Land is a utopia. When in reality, so many of us are annoyed by constant politics shoved down our throats, we know this movie's "real world" is a feminist lie, so Ken standing up to this rubbish inspires many who hate all this politically charged BS.
Young men know how embarrassing/humiliating it is to ask a girl out ,with the fear of being rejected or coined as a creep for daring to like a female. So seeing Ken try and fail is incredibly relatable to all the lonely men just trying to get lucky.
Justice Warriors don't understand that by depicting these acts of desperation as "creepy" is actually insulting half the world's population (and even women who are happily married to men would find this attitude revolting). The average person who isn't a activist will support Ken and have nothing but disdain towards Barbie and her smug entitlement against the opposite sex. Most people know better than to start gender wars because it's ultimately childish, silly and shallow to judge anyone based on mere gender. The film runs with the idea that the audience should already hate men from the get go, and that they are already villians because you're supposed to hate them without any good reason beforehand.
Yet they unintentionally build Ken up as underdog who raises above the "matriarchy" and creates a new society that benefits men over women. If a sane person wrote this movie, the ending would be a compromise, where Barbies and Kens come to an agreement where both men and women are treated equally and jobs best suited to specific gender roles would be distributed evenly. But of course, the film presumes you're a full blown feminist who wants to see men fail, so it humiliates all kens instead and expects the audience to cheer and be glad men can't have any power whatsoever. Yet this line of thinking goes against human nature and society itself. The average person wants to settle down, have kids, get married and continue their family tree. This is 90% of the planet's dream and goal. There are only a small handful of narcissists who want to go against this norm and call anyone who wants to settle down old fashioned and regressive.
That's the hilarious irony of Ken. He wants what most people want, he represents the majority of people who just want respect and love, those who don't see nothing wrong with that. The Barbie's represent the infuriating vocal minority who want to control *everything* like tyrants, yet claim to be victims.
The every man does not relate to that, Ken is everything people who respect traditional values strive for.
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Just a bit of input here, A real feminist fights for equal rights, The people who call themselves feminists and say that men should be lower than them aren't actually feminists. I agree with your point, though.
Ken was the MLK of the movie
i'm ken
Road to 1 Mil, from 340
Hey you know, one step at a time.
that ending is dumb, though; i mean you can fly in barbieland; why would you ever want to leave a universe like that?
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Maybe he isn't evil because he literally isn't meant to be a villain or to actually be evil. The movie's point is basically about how the patriarchy fucks all of us up, no matter the gender. Ken isn't the villain because the movie isn't about heroes or villains. It's basically patriarchy but make it matriarchy. Even at the start of the movie says that it's the opposite of the real world, Barbieland isn't supposed to resemble anything real. You know how women used to have no rights? Barbieland is supposed to be the opposite. I think the flaw of this video is the obesession with looking for a bad guy and a good guy. The point of the movie is that Barbieland is just as messed up as the real world, both extremes of male supremacy and female supremacy are wrong. And constantly trying to make sense of it superficially feels really off. No hate though💪
Said it how it is fr. Halfway through I had to do a double take on whether this video was satire
True, i think way to many people miss the simple point of the movie.
What do you mean the clear problem is they put Barbie in a good light but they put ken in a bad light.
@nitrozeus6393 no, Ken makes bad decisions (because of a misunderstanding) but it does not really make him a true villain. He is just confused, and most audiences have sympathy for him.
@@slubert because a villain makes mistakes or the audiences sympathetic with him. Does not mean he isn’t a villain.
Not every villains are 2 dimensional
This movie comes off as extremely sexist, the theme should have just been "allowing everyone to be themselves is the best outcome".
The moment I unsubscribed to Schaffrillas was when he tried to criticize Ratatouille for not being political enough. He definitely has a good understanding of how movies work and definitely how it should be told to both children and adults, but it’s when he wants the artist to shovel more content down people’s throats is what really got me disinterested. Like trying to expand on the side characters to the point they might as well be main characters, or explain the patriarchy threw the female character to children who came to watch a film about a rat and a custodian making food. I unsubscribe to a few RUclipsrs who feel like they tried to sell me something outside of the subject matter I clicked on (Not necessarily commercial stuff). To me, it seems this small backlash he has is a lot to do with him wanting small things in children’s shows and movies to be expanded on to the point it clogs the movie with content, sometimes even content inappropriate for children. When RUclipsrs usually do this, I just roll my eyes to such nonsense. It’s one thing to have useless mediocre cardboard side characters, it’s another to have side characters with a lore as long as middle earth and explain complex debatable themes to children that they will ether be confused or disinterested in.
I agree with you. I remember watching his Star Wars critique and already knew, from his first video, what his political leanings were, right up until he made a review of captain marvel, the second and last I watched from him, and he just insulted people who didn't like the film as "manbabies", and I just never watched anything from him again.
why tf would ratatouille need to be political wtf. That would completely ruin the movie, right wing or left wing
@@SpidaMez Because creators like Schaffrillas believe you should shove politics into everything. The guy is very far left and woke. He made a case of why it's okay to surgically transition kids under 18 (I believe, take it with a grain of salt).
While I agree it's bad with both sides, I see the left doing this much more and more egregiously compared to right wingers.
I'm pretty sure everything you pointed out is addressed in the movie and is the actual plot as opposed to the helping a little girl narrative you proposed. Ken being treated horribly is a parody of how women were treated horribly in the real world for the better part of history and are still hardly on equal footing with men.
Ken IS a hero of his own story. He gets his own song and character arc as well as a resolution. He is likeable but misguided and the movie doesn't judge him too harshly for this. Barbie on the other hand is purposely flawed and her coldness towards ken and egocentricism prove to be her downfall. One could compare her attitude to that of a man too insecure to ackgnowledge the struggle of women. Again, the main joke of the movie is that in Barbieland the roles of men and women are swapped and comically exaggerated. The movie concludes by pointing out the flaws of this uneven society and making things better for the kens and hopes that the same will happen in our world. Yes the patriarchy is unfortunately a real issue we still have and the movie is right to criticize it, and people are right to discuss it therefore.
Just edit your comments i scene them four times.
I think movies should put political Messages in some kind of a grey area like in the legend of korra like in the the first season, Amon wants non-bender rights and he’s kinda like ken where they use force and violence too get what they what. But they take away benders ability to bend. Which is like if you forced someone to switch skin colour. Which makes him a hypocrite because he is suppressing benders.
The Barbie Movie is a movie to promote Barbie
Basically no plot
and Ken just gets treated like crap and some ppl agree that Barbie is the good gal and the movie is a message saying that "girls get treated worse than boys" while it can be the OTHER WAY AROUND
better message: EVERYONE should be treated equally (except those rlly bad ppl)
I feel like this is a pretty bad take all around and fails to understand the difference between the way Barbie treated Ken at the start and how Ken treated Barbie during the movie.
Barbie just wasn't intrested in Ken at the start of the movie, she wasn't rude in any way she just rejected his advances and that's attacking Ken somehow? Is she not allowed to not be intrested in him? The Kens in general were also happy at the start of the movie, they were invited to the party and were having fun. The only one who wasn't was the main Ken who was too focused on getting Barbies attention.
Ken on the other hand, when he takes control of barbieland, actively treats all the Barbies as objects. They are wearing maid dresses, they are quite literally serving him and the other Kens yet there is nothing wrong with it? That is the double standard that the movie calls out, that in a world controlled by men the problem isn't that women are just secondary characters but that they are actively below men, unlike the other way around.
I would also like to point out a very telling detail: at the end of the movie Barbie apologizes to Ken for basically not giving him enough attention because even after everything that happened he still feels entitled to it, yet Ken never apologizes to barbie for subjucating her friends and taking away their freedom.
yet they had to be told their being brainwashed? the Barbie's looked happy too so idk what you mean and in the video he said its fine that barbie didnt like ken did you watch it properly also ken wasnt treated well bro was so happy when someone said excuse me in the real world bro like?????
@@joshuaanderson7027Yes they had to be told. And they were told they were brainwashed how did they react? Were the Barbies happy with their brainwashed lives? Or did they walk away? If the Barbies were truly happy then they would've stayed as maids despite not being brainwashed.
I repeat, the only Ken that wasn't content with the way things were run was the Ken that we follow. None of the other Ken's seemed to be discontent with their lives. When Ken got injured at the start of the movie Barbie took him to the ambulance and comforted him. I genuinely don't see where he was treated badly.
Also you completely ignored the apology part. Even if we asume Ken did nothing wrong in the sense that patriarchy in the barbieworld wasn't bad and he wasn't wrong in introducing it, he still betrayed Barbie's trust and took over her house. Does that not warrant an "I'm sorry"? Especially considering how much he says he values Barbie
@@nyanpuff2332 This!!!
Ken did Nothing wrong. Fucking hell, the trans woman (there is only 1) has more rights then the kens!
There was a trans woman in the movie? I saw the movie, but I didn't notice a trans woman.
@@laurenbonner2393 The doctor
@@bellaclark4420 Oh, ok.
It's ironically a very conservative film. The traditional order of Barbie land is upheld by stamping out the radical oposition represented by the Kens.
Change is avoided, and nothing about the social order has shifted.
Preach👏🔥☦️
The ending was bad. The fact that Barbies took back control was bad. Nothing was resolved, NOTHING. There has to be equity, remember? Equity? That word in which describes FAIRNESS?
Leave Dangonrompa ALONE !!!
Well, feminist aren't known for their empathy towards men...
This might come as a shock to you, but a lot of feminists ARE men.
You can be feminist and still be at least polite towards men, it’s not like there’s no in between
@@katieparks5917 yes you're right I have several friends who are feminist.
But your statement seems, in my opinion, to corroborate in a way what I had written. "At least polite" is a very low goal. I'm at least polite toward people I don't like. Why not aiming higher ? Why not trying to be understanding ? Why not trying to make an effort to question man hating thoughts ? Why not adressing unfair issues to men caused by feminist who goes too far ? Why not wanting a peacefull coexistence ?
Some feminist gets angry when men say not all men, they get angry when men don't want to support feminism. Perhaps if feminist started attacking man hating people, then men would be more willing to be feminist as I used to be.
I'm certain that if feminist started to recognize and criticize man hating behaviour, speeches and all the modern prejudices towards men caused by their cause, then modern feminism would be better and more popular as a result.
Guess we should call it irrational "feminism."
Ken did nothing wrong
Yeah
bro missed the whole point of the movie, Barbies are portrayed as men in this world, the roles are reversed. The kens have the same role women have in the real world.
the movie has a lesson that both were wrong!!
i see people complaining sm about gosling getting an award because "but... da movie... was about heckin feminism" yeah and? it did a terrible job, stop saying its good just because it tried (and failed) to have a message you agree with
By the movie's (filmmaker's) own flawed logic here, if all the Ken's "transitioned" to Barbies then and ONLY then would they be granted "equal rights."
Also there's that really horribly passing trans Barbie in the film that just constantly reinforces this point. 🤣
To not talk bad about that what you should do
Ew. The fat Barbie thing was so weird. Barbies are also for representation not just to look up to.
You're missing the whole point of the movie... The dynamic of how the Kens are treated in the barbie world is supposed to represent how women is represented in the real world, obviously in an exagerated way so don't start spitting foam at the sight of that sentence. The moment you said that his changes in barbie world were actually good and even the barbies looked happy just confirmes that you just missed the whole point. Of course the representation of the kens looks bad, THAT'S THE POINT. OF COURSE Ken is supposed to be look as bad transforming barbie world, the same way a woman would look bad making the world a place where only woman can be in power and men are just slaves, THAT'S THE POINT.
Also an antagonist is not the same as a villan... You really should know that...
3:03 cute video! just this comment is so unhinged for no reason, it sounds like you don't want the barbies to be fat but also shame the movie from 'hiding' them from the trailers. Babes I think they're just try to be body positive. 😭
I mean some people proportions can be larger and they are 100% health and workout while others can be normal skinny and still unhealthy. Weight does not equal health most cases and it's still to think of it that way.
Actually most of the population in the US dies of obesity, it is a disease, there is a reason why the doctor weights you. In my opinion, if you have a medical condition that makes you fat and there is no way to loose weight then you should accept you the way you are and yes clothing shops should have an option for these people. But if that is not the case, then we shouldn’t romanticize being overweight and instead try to achieve a more healthy lifestyle
@bellaclark4420 who is romanticizing obesity?
Calm down porky
6:55 Bad writing how?...
1:07
@@hybridvenom9I was talking about the owl house
One word
Hunter
"How can anybody get behind this ending? " You are so close man, so close... This is the real world for women but genderswapped.
I get what you’re saying but I don’t think that justifies the ending. And even so, there are female Supreme Court Justices.
I think everyone gets that it’s gender-swapped (they pretty much say it at the end). The problem I think most people have is the tone-deaf solution that the movie brings to conclude the story.
You really had me with this whole movie not making sense, but preaching about empathy and then having a moment dedicated to being fat phobic out of nowhere is extremely tone-deaf and hurtful.
I think he was more saying that from a marketing standpoint.
He wasn't being fat phobic. The whole point of Barbie is representation, and why would anyone want to be fat. If someone is skinny or average weight, I would imagine that they don't want to become fat.
If the goal of Barbie was representation then they did a horrible job because having only 1 person that's plus size but appeals to every single other convention beauty standard, no.@@Looona_fan