Hey man, I really appreciate the compliment. I wish the square footage was a little bigger but I do my best to work with what I have. Take care and thank you for your support!
Yes, this video is helpful. I put a downpayment on a V2 because I really like narrow bikes and I come from the 888 era, plus I have Hyperrmotard 950SP. You answered some items that were in and out of my thinking. I'm a twisties sort, and my freeway/straight riding is minimal. I think that the Hyper/V2 combo is going to suit me (plus a Grom!). You side-by-side comparison is welcome.
Awesome. So glad this video was helpful to guide your decision. You won’t be disappointed with the V2. It feels like a much smaller bike than it really is. Whenever somebody rides the V2, the first thing they say comment on is how light and small it feels. Appreciate the support, take care. 👊🏽.
The power on the V4 is addictive. Had a chance to ride my buddies V2 and wanting more power out of it. When i got back on my V4S i was grinning. It all depends how you want to ride your bike i guess. As for me the V4 is the bike for me.
Pani's are a lot better quality for sure. Little less rpm with an RSV4, but the instant power and how that power carries is a lot stronger than a Pani V4.
Hey brother!! nice explanation. Can you please make a video comparing both v4s of your's? Aprilia and Ducati. If already made, please share the video. Thanks and keep up the good work.
Nice review based on real experience....not specs or speculation. Still love how slim that V2 looks. Would you consider doing at -1 tooth front sprocket on the V2 to improve low speed smoothness / tractability ? Makes a very noticeable difference on a 600cc bike.
Appreciate it, thank you! At this point I’d rather just leave the gearing stock. However, you are totally right about it making a big difference on these types of bikes.
Great video! I'm on the fence as a 47 year old man coming from a Buell 1125R that I sold 10 years ago. What are your thoughts of me moving up to the V4? Also, how tall are you? I am 5'8 and sat on one at the local dealer here in Dallas. I couldn't quite flat foot it, but could get my front feet to the ground.
I suppose it depends on what you are looking for. I have exactly zero experience with a Buell 1125R, but I would assume that bike was pretty brutal. These current V4's are pretty tame around town. Goes without saying; you better be holding on when you hit powerband though. I am 5'5" so these V4's are a struggle for me. It's one foot tippy toe in my case. V4's get a bad reputation for being too aggressive to use for normal transportation, but it's just not true. It's tame when you want it to be and a WSBK if you want to get brave. Amazing machines these Ducati's. Thank you so much for your support!
did you do Bt tune for your V4? Is it cooler afterwards? Does the bike feel a lot better. I have both. Between the two the only real downside of the V4 is the heat. Coming from a non Ducati, the V2 will feel warm, the warmth is a bit annoying, and that’s it. If you go 70mph for 2 min the bike will cool down. But a V4, the heat is unbearable in the city. You have to go 110mph+ for a long while before the bike starts to cool down. V4 is smoother, v2 has way more vibration. My V4S fully fueled with full mods weighs 431lb. The V2 almost stock is 450lb+. After riding V4 and getting used to shift around 13k rpm, going to a v2 I kept hitting the limiter before shifting lol. I swear to god the v2 stock exhaust is louder than v4 stock exhaust lol. Just how I feel. Tho after ak exhaust on the v4 it is louder.
The V4 has an upmap, the V2 has a BT. Both were significantly cooler after the exhaust and flash. It is night and day. I would say there's not much difference vibration wise between the V4 and V2. You'd think the V4 would be a lot smoother, but both engines are really not that smooth compared to the competition. As far as the stock exhaust goes, valves closed they are both pretty similar in volume, which is quiet. With the valves open, the V4 is a lot louder. I've got some videos on this, V4 is significantly louder. Take care man.
@@ridewithKY yeah compare to inline 4, the V4 still has more vibrations. Tho I did not feel the bike is cooler after upmap with the ak exhaust. Maybe the T800 upmap actually does something to reduce the heat. Have you dyno’ed your bikes?
Great info, would you feel the same with a comparison of the V2-Street Fighter & V4 Street Fighter. ??, I'm on the Fence of thinking to Trade my 2023 Triumph Rocket-3R..Then again, I may miss My Rocket as it has such a presence, and of course, a Nuclear Reactor for an Engine. And I just subscribed.
Appreciate the support, thank you! Yeah the SF V2 and SF V4 are going to be similar in comparison. The SF V2 is very narrow and feels very light whereas the SF V4 is pretty wide and feels heavier even though on paper they are about the same weight. Going to either option is going to be a big change for you because both V2 and V4 are not very strong down low. Your Rocket 3R is the complete opposite in that its torque can turn the earth but doesn't have the top end of a V2 and especially a V4. The top end on a V4 is insane. Cheers sir.
I'm currently looking at getting a v2 or v4. However, I'm gonna have to disagree with your statement that the exhaust sound on the V2 is awesome. Maybe it's the video recording but that austin racing just sounds loud and tinny. I was expecting a nice deep throaty note. Maybe I'm just getting old. No complaints on the V4 at all though.
lol definitely not loud and tinny w/ an arrow exhaust. in person its a lot different. its definitely a louder lower deep sound + rumble. videos dont give it justice
Haha appreciate it. I spray P&S beadmaker not the bikes or us Adam's graphine ceramic coating. Pretty easy to apply and helps preserve these bikes we worked so hard to obtain. Cheers man. take care.
Have you even taken the v4 to redline? I agree you do what you want with your bike but many people say its meant for the track if you use the whole powerband as a purpose built bike. I think its too much for the street to use the whole powerband is what people meant. You get 150mph quick in 3rd gear or short shift to 4th. As much as I love the bike It gets more enjoyable to dip into long turns and wringing it out.. Again not for streets its just too fast to use the whole power.
I have. There are a lot of tracks you can't use the whole powerband, so what then? Furthermore, these bikes have lights, a number plate bracket, mirrors, and a catalytic converter; their primary purpose is a street application. In your example of ringing out 3rd gear, let's look at the V2. If you wind out 3rd gear completely, you'll be going approximately 120-125 mph? In a legal context and safety context, is there really a difference between 125 mph on the V2 versus 150 mph on the V4? I don't think so. I'm not here to tell anybody what to do with the speed of their bike, that's between them and law enforcement. At least here in California, there is no difference legally between going 125 mph and 150 mph. It's exhibition of speed in both scenarios. You are taking a big risk legally and with safety in either case. The context of the video was both of these bikes behavior in a street application, being used as transportation. After all, that's what both of these bikes are; transportation. Top end speed goes without saying, it's 210 hp versus 155 hp, not that hard to figure that part out. Take care man, ride safe.
I got a BMW M1000R. It's not going to the track. I had a buddy kind of give me a little shit about it. Jokingly. Well, he wrecked his GSXR1000R. Now I'm still cruising around, and he's got nothing. 🤷 I'll ride my ride, you ride yours.
Hope your buddy is okay following the wreck. Nothing wrong with keeping your M1000R off the track man. If I had one of those I’d be the same way. We’d be a lot better off if everybody wasn’t so concerned about what others are doing and just minded their business. Take care, enjoy that M1000R. 👊🏽.
A couple broken ankles, but otherwise, he's good. Some surgery, a couple of pins and screws, and physical therapy. He will be back riding by the end of the year. 👍
Ive traded in me v2 for a gsxs1000 juist because the v2 is unusable in my country. It drives only Nice on the higher speeds. Exceeding the speed limit. Its a tracktoy best used there. At low speeds 30 - 80 kmh it feels like im stalling the bike. Thais driving in first/second gear.
I know what you mean. With the stock flash these bikes don’t run that good at lower speeds and when lugging the motor. After a flash they run much better down low. Glad you are enjoying that GSXS1000, those are sweet bikes.
I was about to ask if you ever ride your bikes then 8:16 happened lol smh. I have 2021 s1000rr w/2300miles BUT wld trade it for a v4 if the deal was fair
Haha I unfortunately don’t ride and provide commentary as often as everyone probably wants. When I ride I like to pay attention to just riding and even just talking at the same time can be distracting. S1000RR easily one of my favorite bikes, definitely a worthy alternative to a Pani V4.
This information is incorrect. Both the V2 and V4 use a wet clutch, which does not need any more maintenance than any other wet clutch. When we talk about dry clutches and Ducati’s there are some nuances there as well. The current gen V4R uses a very small diameter dry clutch which has a shorter interval than the larger diameter dry clutch found on the older V4R and the SP/SP2. Thank you @beeraiii8449 for correcting this misinformation.
@ridewithKY oh, I know u have the RSV4, I've been watching your videos for a while... but for those wondering if you should get a panigale v4 or v2... well... you should get an Aprilia RSV4... 🤩🤩🤩
LOL... Typical Duc guy, if you're not going to ride the crap out of it, why buy it? Why make a half of a review? The only reason I really watched was to see your garage. And it's what you should be making videos about. LOL.. I'm just busting ya ballz man.. LOL.. Decent vid but do more so I can sub... Ride safe and keep roolliinngg..
Or you can ride your bike how you want to and I’ll ride mine how I want to. You don’t pay my bills so I’ll keep doing what I think is best for me. Ride safe man.
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Everyday i look at your garage i look at mine and sigh. It’s clean and aesthetic
Hey man, I really appreciate the compliment. I wish the square footage was a little bigger but I do my best to work with what I have. Take care and thank you for your support!
Your garage is legit!
@Dmakhija thank you so much, appreciate it!
That V2 with the Austin Racing sounds so good!
Thank you! I love that setup on the V2.
Thank you so much for all the information you share. It really helps when making a decision between the V2 and the V4.
All The Best
Appreciate the support! So glad you found the video useful.
Take care. 👍🏽.
Yes, this video is helpful. I put a downpayment on a V2 because I really like narrow bikes and I come from the 888 era, plus I have Hyperrmotard 950SP. You answered some items that were in and out of my thinking. I'm a twisties sort, and my freeway/straight riding is minimal. I think that the Hyper/V2 combo is going to suit me (plus a Grom!). You side-by-side comparison is welcome.
Awesome. So glad this video was helpful to guide your decision. You won’t be disappointed with the V2. It feels like a much smaller bike than it really is. Whenever somebody rides the V2, the first thing they say comment on is how light and small it feels. Appreciate the support, take care. 👊🏽.
Great video man, thank you for the comparison. Super good video quality as well, really well put together
Thank you for the compliment! So glad the video was helpful to you. 👊🏽.
The power on the V4 is addictive. Had a chance to ride my buddies V2 and wanting more power out of it. When i got back on my V4S i was grinning. It all depends how you want to ride your bike i guess. As for me the V4 is the bike for me.
If you think the power of a Pani V4 is addictive, you should try an RSV4. There's no waiting for power on an RSV4.
I did try it already, different animal for sure. I still prefer the V4
Pani's are a lot better quality for sure. Little less rpm with an RSV4, but the instant power and how that power carries is a lot stronger than a Pani V4.
Agreed...
Thank you for the detailed comparison. Very informative!
Thank you! Glad the video was helpful to you.
Hey brother!! nice explanation. Can you please make a video comparing both v4s of your's? Aprilia and Ducati. If already made, please share the video. Thanks and keep up the good work.
That is coming soon. The RSV4 and Pani V4 are surprisingly pretty different in the context of a street application. Thank you for the support. 👊🏽.
I was thinking about buying a V2 but heard they get crazy hot on a warm day because the way the exhaust is ran and V4 doesn't have the same issue
Nice review based on real experience....not specs or speculation. Still love how slim that V2 looks. Would you consider doing at -1 tooth front sprocket on the V2 to improve low speed smoothness / tractability ? Makes a very noticeable difference on a 600cc bike.
Appreciate it, thank you! At this point I’d rather just leave the gearing stock. However, you are totally right about it making a big difference on these types of bikes.
You aren’t alone man. There’s a good amount of people out there that like the simplistic look of the V2 over the more aggressive look of the V4.
Just found your channel man!! 🔥
Thank you so much for the support!
Great video! I'm on the fence as a 47 year old man coming from a Buell 1125R that I sold 10 years ago. What are your thoughts of me moving up to the V4? Also, how tall are you? I am 5'8 and sat on one at the local dealer here in Dallas. I couldn't quite flat foot it, but could get my front feet to the ground.
I suppose it depends on what you are looking for. I have exactly zero experience with a Buell 1125R, but I would assume that bike was pretty brutal. These current V4's are pretty tame around town. Goes without saying; you better be holding on when you hit powerband though. I am 5'5" so these V4's are a struggle for me. It's one foot tippy toe in my case. V4's get a bad reputation for being too aggressive to use for normal transportation, but it's just not true. It's tame when you want it to be and a WSBK if you want to get brave. Amazing machines these Ducati's.
Thank you so much for your support!
Great Video man!!! I love Ducati
Appreciate it! Thank you for the support! 👊🏽.
did you do Bt tune for your V4? Is it cooler afterwards? Does the bike feel a lot better.
I have both. Between the two the only real downside of the V4 is the heat.
Coming from a non Ducati, the V2 will feel warm, the warmth is a bit annoying, and that’s it. If you go 70mph for 2 min the bike will cool down. But a V4, the heat is unbearable in the city. You have to go 110mph+ for a long while before the bike starts to cool down.
V4 is smoother, v2 has way more vibration. My V4S fully fueled with full mods weighs 431lb. The V2 almost stock is 450lb+.
After riding V4 and getting used to shift around 13k rpm, going to a v2 I kept hitting the limiter before shifting lol.
I swear to god the v2 stock exhaust is louder than v4 stock exhaust lol. Just how I feel. Tho after ak exhaust on the v4 it is louder.
The V4 has an upmap, the V2 has a BT. Both were significantly cooler after the exhaust and flash. It is night and day.
I would say there's not much difference vibration wise between the V4 and V2. You'd think the V4 would be a lot smoother, but both engines are really not that smooth compared to the competition.
As far as the stock exhaust goes, valves closed they are both pretty similar in volume, which is quiet. With the valves open, the V4 is a lot louder. I've got some videos on this, V4 is significantly louder.
Take care man.
@@ridewithKY yeah compare to inline 4, the V4 still has more vibrations. Tho I did not feel the bike is cooler after upmap with the ak exhaust. Maybe the T800 upmap actually does something to reduce the heat.
Have you dyno’ed your bikes?
I have not dyno’d either bike.
Interesting you did not detect a difference in temperature following the Akra exhaust.
Great info, would you feel the same with a comparison of the V2-Street Fighter & V4 Street Fighter. ??, I'm on the Fence of thinking to Trade my 2023 Triumph Rocket-3R..Then again, I may miss My Rocket as it has such a presence, and of course, a Nuclear Reactor for an Engine. And I just subscribed.
Appreciate the support, thank you! Yeah the SF V2 and SF V4 are going to be similar in comparison. The SF V2 is very narrow and feels very light whereas the SF V4 is pretty wide and feels heavier even though on paper they are about the same weight. Going to either option is going to be a big change for you because both V2 and V4 are not very strong down low. Your Rocket 3R is the complete opposite in that its torque can turn the earth but doesn't have the top end of a V2 and especially a V4. The top end on a V4 is insane. Cheers sir.
I'm currently looking at getting a v2 or v4. However, I'm gonna have to disagree with your statement that the exhaust sound on the V2 is awesome. Maybe it's the video recording but that austin racing just sounds loud and tinny. I was expecting a nice deep throaty note. Maybe I'm just getting old. No complaints on the V4 at all though.
Yeah man everybody has their opinion.
lol definitely not loud and tinny w/ an arrow exhaust. in person its a lot different. its definitely a louder lower deep sound + rumble. videos dont give it justice
How do you get such a deep red gloss shine to your ducatis, mine don't look that good after I clean it. 😂
Haha appreciate it. I spray P&S beadmaker not the bikes or us Adam's graphine ceramic coating. Pretty easy to apply and helps preserve these bikes we worked so hard to obtain. Cheers man. take care.
Thank you, great channel
Have you even taken the v4 to redline? I agree you do what you want with your bike but many people say its meant for the track if you use the whole powerband as a purpose built bike. I think its too much for the street to use the whole powerband is what people meant. You get 150mph quick in 3rd gear or short shift to 4th. As much as I love the bike It gets more enjoyable to dip into long turns and wringing it out.. Again not for streets its just too fast to use the whole power.
I have. There are a lot of tracks you can't use the whole powerband, so what then? Furthermore, these bikes have lights, a number plate bracket, mirrors, and a catalytic converter; their primary purpose is a street application.
In your example of ringing out 3rd gear, let's look at the V2. If you wind out 3rd gear completely, you'll be going approximately 120-125 mph? In a legal context and safety context, is there really a difference between 125 mph on the V2 versus 150 mph on the V4? I don't think so. I'm not here to tell anybody what to do with the speed of their bike, that's between them and law enforcement. At least here in California, there is no difference legally between going 125 mph and 150 mph. It's exhibition of speed in both scenarios. You are taking a big risk legally and with safety in either case.
The context of the video was both of these bikes behavior in a street application, being used as transportation. After all, that's what both of these bikes are; transportation. Top end speed goes without saying, it's 210 hp versus 155 hp, not that hard to figure that part out. Take care man, ride safe.
V2 sound 👽👽
What mirrors are on the V4?
Those are Rizoma Cut Edge mirrors.
I got a BMW M1000R. It's not going to the track. I had a buddy kind of give me a little shit about it. Jokingly. Well, he wrecked his GSXR1000R. Now I'm still cruising around, and he's got nothing. 🤷 I'll ride my ride, you ride yours.
Hope your buddy is okay following the wreck. Nothing wrong with keeping your M1000R off the track man. If I had one of those I’d be the same way. We’d be a lot better off if everybody wasn’t so concerned about what others are doing and just minded their business. Take care, enjoy that M1000R. 👊🏽.
A couple broken ankles, but otherwise, he's good. Some surgery, a couple of pins and screws, and physical therapy. He will be back riding by the end of the year. 👍
@@RobDaKid87 glad he is mostly ok. Appreciate you sharing and chiming in. 👊🏽.
Ive traded in me v2 for a gsxs1000 juist because the v2 is unusable in my country. It drives only Nice on the higher speeds. Exceeding the speed limit. Its a tracktoy best used there. At low speeds 30 - 80 kmh it feels like im stalling the bike. Thais driving in first/second gear.
I know what you mean. With the stock flash these bikes don’t run that good at lower speeds and when lugging the motor. After a flash they run much better down low. Glad you are enjoying that GSXS1000, those are sweet bikes.
Thanks bro now I need a v4 😂😂😂
Haha yes sir
I was about to ask if you ever ride your bikes then 8:16 happened lol smh. I have 2021 s1000rr w/2300miles BUT wld trade it for a v4 if the deal was fair
Haha I unfortunately don’t ride and provide commentary as often as everyone probably wants. When I ride I like to pay attention to just riding and even just talking at the same time can be distracting. S1000RR easily one of my favorite bikes, definitely a worthy alternative to a Pani V4.
These clutches need to be changed every 2400 miles. They charge almost 3k at the shop to do it. So why would you want this as a daily?
Only if you’re using a dry clutch. Not if you use the stock wet clutch.
This information is incorrect. Both the V2 and V4 use a wet clutch, which does not need any more maintenance than any other wet clutch. When we talk about dry clutches and Ducati’s there are some nuances there as well. The current gen V4R uses a very small diameter dry clutch which has a shorter interval than the larger diameter dry clutch found on the older V4R and the SP/SP2.
Thank you @beeraiii8449 for correcting this misinformation.
Replacing plates on a dry clutch is easier than putting air in the tires. If you pay 3k for a 5 min job then what the fuck?!?
@Yamabrah_YZF 😂😂😂
@@ridewithKYno worries! I’m enjoying your videos from down under as I wait to place an order on the new v4!! :)
Neither... you should buy an Aprilia RSV4... You're welcome...
You didn’t watch the video… 😂. I have an RSV4.
@ridewithKY oh, I know u have the RSV4, I've been watching your videos for a while...
but for those wondering if you should get a panigale v4 or v2... well... you should get an Aprilia RSV4... 🤩🤩🤩
@notsureonthisusername3319 haha RSV4 is a great bike it’d be hard for me to pick between it and the Pani v4.
LOL... Typical Duc guy, if you're not going to ride the crap out of it, why buy it? Why make a half of a review? The only reason I really watched was to see your garage. And it's what you should be making videos about. LOL.. I'm just busting ya ballz man.. LOL.. Decent vid but do more so I can sub... Ride safe and keep roolliinngg..
Or you can ride your bike how you want to and I’ll ride mine how I want to. You don’t pay my bills so I’ll keep doing what I think is best for me. Ride safe man.
@@ridewithKY lol like I said.. LMAO... Have a good one sir.. LOL.
Neither, couldn't afford the regular repair bills!!!
😂😂😂. Surprisingly they aren’t that bad.
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