I feel like there should be a salvage ship in the middle. This feels kind of like the prospector, like a beginner salvaging ship (smaller ship, smaller storage), and then the next jump is the 15M Reclaimer. Now we need 1 in the middle.
My wife and kids bought me this ship for Father's day. By far my favorite ship I own. If you get creative while stacking boxes, you can get 25scu of salvage in the hold, giving you just shy of 200k
I have to admit, I only went on the RSI website and clicked on the freefly to get my hands on the vulture for a while again (Invictus was the last time). It's such a chilled experience, I just zone out and hours fly by, still making fake space money! Thanks Farrister 😁👍
Pro tip: let the first box generate, pause your scraping, then scrape until you fill the "filler" a second time. Then you can move the first box, and it will make the second box once you move the first one out of the way. That way, you only need to head to the back half as much
One of my favorite and most used ships. It is strictly a bunker runner. There’s often wreckage along the way, making hull stripping a nice side task for a little added income as well as a good way to break up the activities. Also I tend to fill it to the point where the load sells for a bit over 100k aUEC. That’s only 3 or four extra boxes.
I bought one and I love it! I's my everyday flyer since you never know what you are going to find floating in space. I often do box runs in it and salvage any wrecks I find along the way.
I genuinely LOVE my Vulture, its probably my 2nd most flown ship that I have. I even liked the gameplay loop (and have enough friends) to have purchased the Reclaimer, but I quite frequently return to my Vulture (even with other players). The biggest gripes I have with this ship, were mentioned already in the video lol, that being the size of the cargo grid and the basically non-existing head lights. Also I loved the lore video behind the Vulture and I think its a suitable name, but honestly looking at it, it very much reminds me of an Argo ship, as the cab looks like a modern industrial vehicle like tractor or a bulldozer.
I used the Venture chassis in EVE Online and realy like the "Dronelike" chassis. The vulture is a must have ship for me. And both were i dustrial ships too. Thanks for review.
Another great video Farrister. I've watched a lot of reviews of the Vulture, and yours is the one that I prefer. I know what to expect when you make one. It will always be high quality and comprehensive, and the format is consistent throughout all of your video reviews of ships in Star Citizen. I'm still not able to play the game yet, but I do have a Vulture in my fleet for making money in the game. I look forward to eventually being able to use it. Thanks for your videos, my friend. Take care, fly safe and I'll see you in the verse.
Great Video and thank you your take on this hip. I bought it out right got it during the ship sale a a war bond upgraded to it with a nox that had Life time insurance and love this ship, you can fit a total of 25 to 26 scu one stays in the collector and 12 on the grid and 13 stacked in the isle all the way to the door in total you can earn 200k per run but you will have to make a trip back to the space port to un store your ship and retrieve the last scu of cargo from the collector and then run back to the trade center this is easiest to do from area 18,its a short trip back and forth, remember you don't have to do this but its 7600 credits for about 6 to 8 minute of your time or you can collect it for your next run out to salvage.I really like the red skin and I did upgrade everything on this ship. 1st engines to 2 slipstreams at Orison 18600 credits each, 2nd- 2- FR-66 shields at Orison as well 18450 credit each, Zero rush coolers 16150 each at New Babbage and a Atlas Quantum Drive from Hur l5 for 17900 credits as well as the gun to 2 yellow jackets ballistic gatling guns at Orison or Hur L5 4600 each or 2- 9 series longswords ballistic canons at Port Olisar or Hur L3 for 6250 each both will give you a lot more firepower and survivability, these are all class A upgrades and cot les than a full run of salvage o once you have done the upgrades your good to go. Size 1 upgrades are not over all expensive and a small ship needs every advantage it can get to buy more time to flee from the bad guys.Most of these components are solid upgrade for all size one ship as seen on erkul.games. Take care everyone hope to see you in the verse.
Farrister your videos are like SC ASMR I swear to god. You could do narration or something. Thanks for all the videos you make. The Vulture is a great little ship. If you use it as a daily, you can just salvage stuff that you randomly find along the way, it's great.
Agreed, the 175$ target is WAY too much for what this ship can possibly do, given the small cargo and the limited income it guarantees. It will be for sale in 3.20, way overstretched for a ship that made its debut in 3.17.0, more then a year ago. I bought mine for 140$ way back in 3.11, when it was shown as a concept, but I will CCU it to something else as soon as it will be available for aUEC. I give it a run, once in 3 or 4 session, but it becomes boring after a while.
When holding an item with the tractor beam, you can hold R to rotate the object with your mouse. Super useful when moving cargo in the cramped interior. And if you have head tracking, I believe there is an option to gimble the salvage heads and direct them with head tracking
another great review always look forward to your take on a ship . as a non combat player myself love this ship and thought you had lost your mind when you said combat review lol agree bigger lights need plz cig. but all in all love solo salvage play loop. keep up the good work mate.
Just watched your vid and decided to swap my Cuttlass Black +£62 for the Vulture. just done it now! gonna go login and get salvaging (i can easily rent cutty with earnings) Thanks dude.
It would a great ship to use if i could use it. There is a bug where if you damage the salvage heads, even after claiming stays broken. Only known fix is server wipe. Great vid!
I really love this ship and was looking forward to it. Debating on doing VLR combat missions and then salvaging them to make money. Or teaming up with a friend in a combat/cargo ship and making money together. Love the video.
I started trying one on the free fly. I'm thinking of upgrading my cutter package to a vulture. To me they are roughly the same ship, save the salvage arms, and with the Vulture having 12 SCU of cargo. It is easier to carry vehicles in the vulture, and I actually was using it to run bunkers, as the plethora of downed and derelict ships means extra cash without having to shell out for a salvage job. I completely agree that the cargo grid should be officially expanded, and that the lights need to be made brighter. I'm not sure why Aegis ships can have such good lights and Drake ships sucks to bad. I'd also like to see a jump seat in the cargo hold for when it becomes and issue for a player not to be strapped down in flight, to accommodate the hireling moving boxes :P
That's what I did, but I bought another cutter a month later as a runabout. The vulture has a bit of a target on its back in my experience but it makes a good daily if you're an opportunist like me.
@@hamitron It is max 1 crew, but Cutty has pull out seats that aren't counted as crew, as well as the Pisces has jump seats not counted as crew. I'd just like an option for an able-bodied crewman to move boxes, to have a place to sit.
I bought the vulture purely out of irritation for the latest mining changes which killed my mining spirit (it's a train wreck!) Having lots of fun with it. Have managed to use it in low level merc and bounty missions and then scrap the hulls of the ships taken :). Wish it had missiles for when the battles get tough, but sometimes a vulture just needs to fly away and pick on a different corpse :) Good video!
Not so much a comment about the Vulture, I own one and absolutely enjoy using it, I just wanted to say I absolutely enjoy your videos and want to say thank you for producing such quality content.
I bought this ship on concept but ended up CCU-ing it a little while later. I've flown it, used it, and while kind of interesting, I don't regret my decision.
Looking forward to being able to buy this in-game. Sadly the only other option for a salvage ship in game costs 15M, a far stretch from the 2M I have saved so far.
Love your reviews. I see you did a Reclaimer review for 3.17. Have you had a chance to multi crew salvage in one and would you consider releasing an updated video now that salvage is out?
I tried a vulture for a couple of evenings. While the gameplay loop was a little relaxing at first, I soon got bored both doing it solo and with a hauler friend. The poor lights make things quite difficult to be efficient when you are stripping the shadow side of the hull, too. The profits were better than most mid-sized cargo runs, though. The side door can be annoying to enter from EVA.
The power wash simulator is a nice and relaxing gameplay loop. Really enjoyable. And the bit about long claws is true, those are easy to bump into your salvage if you're not paying attention. I'm one of those who do not consider having to get up to move boxes a fun gameplay. It fits a Drake ship design lorewise but it's still a chore and the fiddly ladder in between doesn't help. Also, the ship is designed to not get hit. Small shields just can't tank a lot of damage and expect you to be dodging most of the shots. Considering this the sluggish Vulture needs to get out at the first sight of trouble. But the box wrangling makes you leave the pilot seat constantly, meaning you're completely vulnerable and blind a good deal of the time on the field.
Great video. But just on the profits - I can get about 190-200k from a completely full vulture, by packing everything in the back up to the door where the ladder is.
This ship is one of the reasons why i pledged for a zeus mk2 cl, that way i can use the tractor beam on the ship to pull in the cargo and sell it whilst one of my friends continiues scrapping while i go sell the goods.
I tried the game a couple of month ago and that ship was my main driver. I love the salvage mechanic itself but the game was so buggy i ended up getting a refund. Perhaps one day if/when they fix the game i'll try it again and the Vulture will be my go to since i liked it so much. My favorite part is that you can get intro the cockpit via the ladder on the side which makes getting in/out very quick and easy.
A friend and I will take a Vulture and Taurus.. do a mission like “seize the data”. We salvage the “Black Kite” and make 120-150 k each.. one stays in the Taurus and tractor beams the cargo out of the back of the vulture..
I will have a look into this ship now with the freefly event. Curious if i will like it or not. If so, i plan to get some LTI token and then upgrade it to the Vulture at another point. At least that's what is in my head right now :D I'm just curious, why you didn't mention the Atlas QD or the Voyage QD. Atlas buy location is inconvenient, but the Voyage on Orison is pretty ok, as you can also buy other stuff for maybe other ships you own and the drive has nearly the same speed as the Zephyr but about double the max range.
I know this is a small thing and could be considered a bit daft but I love that this ship has rear ramp spotlights that you can turn on and off. I hope they add these to other ships in the future.
The comments on the length of the Baler arms is true and also odd given the vulture is a Drake ship as is the caterpillar which has frontal bump stop protection and warning bumpers.
The first wreck I ever salvaged, was a Mustang Alpha, that decided to ambush me and found out that the Vulture isn't exactly defenceless, the hard way.
Pretty detailed of the Vulture, did you know (The salvage lasers can be switched to Gimbaled (press G) and they can also be spaced out to cover more of the hull (Mouse scroll wheel) ☺️😎
For most people I'd just recommend waiting till it's available for purchase in-game, 150-175 for an entry-level ship into a gameloop is just too much, same with the prospect which you can just rent for a day and earn that money back quickly. Better just get like an avenger or c8x pisces and do a bit of everything, can still do hand mining and hand salvaging. In hindsight I wouldn't have bought so many ships, especially not big ships and would've limited myself to just something like the 325a (the combat 300i) and the andromeda.
For an entry level salvage ship that’s meant to be used by one person, it would be nice if the process of stacking the boxes was automated, rather than you having to get up from your chair every time to move a box once it’s full.
I almost agree with you. I feel the ship is designed for a crew of 1.5, and i like the optionality of having a friend helping with boxes. Maybe a tiny bit of modularity where you could give up a few SCU of cargo space for an autostacker. So you could have 18 SCU selfstacked or 14 SCU autostacked. I would enjoy that as an option.
@mineralin641 a crew of 1.5 is exactly right. It's fun with buddies but splitting the profits means less money than two solo-vultures. Not sure if increasing g the extraction rate would help multicrew or just make solo more annoying
Salvage also makes more money than mining in general. A single SCU of RMC is worth roughly the same as Tier 1 mineables like gold which are almost impossible to come by in any decent quantity. I'm a pretty good miner and still only manage about 2-4 SCU of Tier 1 mineables per run with the rest being Tier 2 or 3. You can get a lot more RMC in the Vulture in the same amount of time much, much easier, and it doesn't have the extra step of a refinery to get the max value for it.
@@Farrister That's why I wanted to mention it, so people can have fun with that before it gets nerfed down to the core of the Earth like mining did lol.
Am I right in thinking that (unlike the Reclaimer) the Vulture will not have the ability (when it arrives) to chop up ship frames left over from scraping all the hull?
It will be able to. But not to the same extent as the Reclaimer. The long arms the Vulture has, have tractor beams and other features that will be able to pull off limited amounts of ship pieces and store them underneath the cockpit in a small little salvage hold. If you look at the pictures off the Vulture on the pledge store you can see these features in action. That will give you an idea of how it will work.
I had a Vulture for a while (CCU chain from a C8R to a warbond Vulture) and it is a nice small ship for entry into Salvage..BUT there are/still a few bugs in Salvage that needs to be worked on and sometimes the Vulture has a Cargo grid issue so you can’t buy/sell unless you defer the cargo to another ship OR reclaim your Vulture (which does fix the cargo grid issue for a while. For the price as a entry way to the Salvage industry play it is a tad too much $$ in my opinion. Salvage is very smooth and zen like thing when it all works great though :)
good thing to note is you can actually get 25-26 SCU of RMC, but the 26 will require quite a bit of juggling... 25 would be easier..... i've made over 160K and if you do bunkers too salvaging any abandoned ships/wrecks and grabbing helmets from bunkers you can quite easily make far more... so much so ive made over 200K in 30 mins... but you can actually make far more if you find Maze as that sells for 90K aUEC per box and if you can load it up with 25 boxes.... 😉
@@Farrister will say if you look on the personal tab, check salvaging... look for the 30K ships... grab a ship that's easy to get in and out of and load boxes into and go... find the boxes and 3 mins on to the next, do that about 5-10 times depending on size of ship, 30 mins myself and an orgmate earned just over 3 mil.... no hull scraping in this, just collecting the cargo... there's usually 4-5 boxes... but be careful... they will be a mixture of Quantanium, Widow, some other dru... erm medical supplies.... and Maze... we took the MSR out and almost filled it but we got jumped by pirate NPC's.. so we headed to GH to offload and sell, only thing we couldn't sell was the Quant. so or one of the other *cough* med supplies but 30 minutes overall a good boost of cash
@@christopherblair8787 I dunno, I'm finding with a lot of the re-works and changes to mechanics, I'm having to revisit a lot of these reviews as time goes on anyway. It's why I now put the patch number in the title!
@@Farrister again that's fair. However the tractor beam and muncher look to be arriving in 3.20 from what I've seen conjecture for so you may have to revisit this very soon.
I have mixed feelings about my vulture pledge. On one hand its the perfect ship and great for getting started after a wipe but on the other hand its occupying a big chunk of potential store credit. Im not sure ill keep it once they add it for auec purchase.
Theres some silly issues with the vulture, but i enjoy it. Really dislike how i have to risk destroying my ship with uncargospace clamped boxes to salvage a hammerhead fully and considering how it flies, it feels like ot should have an scu or two’s length added to its rear. Being able to make a multitool is great and kept my first salvage run with it from being annoying as i had that server issue where all my armor and tool disappeared from my body after i left the station. Im ok with the huge space needed to speed up and slow down, but just think it needs a full cargo area and a bit of a cargo extension to justify it. Speed it up or give that cargo. I get people wanting to break up the gameplay by moving boxes, but it also disrupts the zen of powerwashing ships and just seems stupid that a technology we have now is apparently unavalilable in the far future
@@Farrister There's definitely been some improvements. The back elevator comes down now from the outside, which is great! For me, 3.19 increased the amount of crashes I get. they are 30k codes like 30018 but I get maybe 4 per session. Also I sometimes get stuck in one of the seats. I haven't had one session in the reclaimer that has gone smoothly. The other thing for me, is that salvage missions ideally need a cargp ship. Its dangerous to get boxes on the reclaimer elevator. Landing at GH is fine, but I wouldnt want to try and land that thing at Brio's breaker yard. With time, im sure that the reclaimer will be useful again :)
Honestly, the Vulture is underwhelming. For its price tag, I would have thought it would offer something more .....thought of? Like you said, the headlights are barely usable. Too often I was salvaging in the dark. The cargo capacity is dumb, even if you can make it to 23 SCU by moving the crates yourself. And having to get up every 2 crates gets annoying fast. Making it every 4 wouldve been way better but only if we could lock more than its initial 12 SCU. The fact that you can actually leave the ship through the cockpit window means someone did know we would block the cargo entrance with more crates. As always, nice review!
Vulture desperately needs a S0 tractor beam in the back that can be operated from the cockpit. Got rid of my (for now) because of that. I love the salvage loop for how relaxed it can be, but it just became so annoying to deal with. Personal opinion, not here to argue over it
I find getting around inside a little bit annoying. This is supposed to be a single-player ship which specializes in industrial game play. Running through 2 doors, then down a ladder, then through another door to handle the salvage is a little silly. As an industrial worker, you are supposed to be able to do your job quickly and doing all that running is a waste of time. I would have put the habitation area on the lower deck and had the salvage dispenser on the top deck. When you are "working", everything work related should be near by. Running past my habitation area while I am working makes no sense.
I have ignored the salvage in game as $175 entry fee makes it $0 value for my time. Vulture remains only available for real cash, while CIG hypes and artificially inflates ingame value by putting RMC above the selling price of even gold. And the Reclaimer is not worth grinding up over 30 million credits to get to. As soon as the Vulture becomes available in game expect RMC prices to plummet under iron.
@@Farrister I’m hoping as salvage develops there will be more of a place for someone to go into ships and pull out components, and maybe cargo, while another does the stripping. My friend and I have a system where he brings the vulture and I bring a small cargo ship. Lol, I know that’s technically just moving the boxes part, but the thought of finding a juicy component excites me.
Im sorry, but the Zephyr, is one of the worst QD for S1... U guys should get an Atlas, HUR-L5. its range is better (77millions to 33) and with 151.000 km/Sec its good. and it costs 17K
When fleet on fleet combat goes live, I would love to see the tactics of a squadron of these with some Vanguard Wardens and Andromeda’s as missile boats.
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I feel like there should be a salvage ship in the middle. This feels kind of like the prospector, like a beginner salvaging ship (smaller ship, smaller storage), and then the next jump is the 15M Reclaimer. Now we need 1 in the middle.
My wife and kids bought me this ship for Father's day. By far my favorite ship I own. If you get creative while stacking boxes, you can get 25scu of salvage in the hold, giving you just shy of 200k
Good gift!
I have to admit, I only went on the RSI website and clicked on the freefly to get my hands on the vulture for a while again (Invictus was the last time). It's such a chilled experience, I just zone out and hours fly by, still making fake space money! Thanks Farrister 😁👍
I hope you enjoy!
Pro tip: let the first box generate, pause your scraping, then scrape until you fill the "filler" a second time. Then you can move the first box, and it will make the second box once you move the first one out of the way. That way, you only need to head to the back half as much
Yes, that's what I do too!
This is the smallest ship with two decks, which is one of the reasons why I love it.
Oooh is it really? I didn't even think of that!
And it almost looks like a bumble bee
One of my favorite and most used ships. It is strictly a bunker runner. There’s often wreckage along the way, making hull stripping a nice side task for a little added income as well as a good way to break up the activities. Also I tend to fill it to the point where the load sells for a bit over 100k aUEC. That’s only 3 or four extra boxes.
Nice use case!
I bought one and I love it! I's my everyday flyer since you never know what you are going to find floating in space. I often do box runs in it and salvage any wrecks I find along the way.
And those rare moments when you find an "elephant graveyard"... :D
@@Farrister I seem to very regularly find intact C2s abandoned just outside of Cru-L1, so I always make sure to check around for them.
I genuinely LOVE my Vulture, its probably my 2nd most flown ship that I have. I even liked the gameplay loop (and have enough friends) to have purchased the Reclaimer, but I quite frequently return to my Vulture (even with other players). The biggest gripes I have with this ship, were mentioned already in the video lol, that being the size of the cargo grid and the basically non-existing head lights. Also I loved the lore video behind the Vulture and I think its a suitable name, but honestly looking at it, it very much reminds me of an Argo ship, as the cab looks like a modern industrial vehicle like tractor or a bulldozer.
I'm really getting into it now, I've gotta admit
I got the Career Kit which was a fair bit cheaper than the ship by itself. Gonna get my salvage career going and see what it's like
I hate to admit it, but so did I...
I used the Venture chassis in EVE Online and realy like the "Dronelike" chassis. The vulture is a must have ship for me. And both were i dustrial ships too. Thanks for review.
Ah, EVE Online :)
Another great video Farrister. I've watched a lot of reviews of the Vulture, and yours is the one that I prefer. I know what to expect when you make one. It will always be high quality and comprehensive, and the format is consistent throughout all of your video reviews of ships in Star Citizen. I'm still not able to play the game yet, but I do have a Vulture in my fleet for making money in the game. I look forward to eventually being able to use it. Thanks for your videos, my friend. Take care, fly safe and I'll see you in the verse.
Thanks Koron, hope you get back in soon
“I’m not a ugly Vulture! I’m a beautiful Hummingbird!” 😊
Such a great ship, can’t wait to hop in it again 😊
Same here!
Thanks for this and for the details about upgrading the drive.
Just my suggestion :)
A very well made and delightfully thorough review video. Thank you, Farrister!
Thanks Snaggletoof
Great Video and thank you your take on this hip. I bought it out right got it during the ship sale a a war bond upgraded to it with a nox that had Life time insurance and love this ship, you can fit a total of 25 to 26 scu one stays in the collector and 12 on the grid and 13 stacked in the isle all the way to the door in total you can earn 200k per run but you will have to make a trip back to the space port to un store your ship and retrieve the last scu of cargo from the collector and then run back to the trade center this is easiest to do from area 18,its a short trip back and forth, remember you don't have to do this but its 7600 credits for about 6 to 8 minute of your time or you can collect it for your next run out to salvage.I really like the red skin and I did upgrade everything on this ship. 1st engines to 2 slipstreams at Orison 18600 credits each, 2nd- 2- FR-66 shields at Orison as well 18450 credit each, Zero rush coolers 16150 each at New Babbage and a Atlas Quantum Drive from Hur l5 for 17900 credits as well as the gun to 2 yellow jackets ballistic gatling guns at Orison or Hur L5 4600 each or 2- 9 series longswords ballistic canons at Port Olisar or Hur L3 for 6250 each both will give you a lot more firepower and survivability, these are all class A upgrades and cot les than a full run of salvage o once you have done the upgrades your good to go. Size 1 upgrades are not over all expensive and a small ship needs every advantage it can get to buy more time to flee from the bad guys.Most of these components are solid upgrade for all size one ship as seen on erkul.games. Take care everyone hope to see you in the verse.
Good notes!
Farrister your videos are like SC ASMR I swear to god. You could do narration or something.
Thanks for all the videos you make. The Vulture is a great little ship. If you use it as a daily, you can just salvage stuff that you randomly find along the way, it's great.
Thanks you for your kind words!
Agreed, the 175$ target is WAY too much for what this ship can possibly do, given the small cargo and the limited income it guarantees. It will be for sale in 3.20, way overstretched for a ship that made its debut in 3.17.0, more then a year ago.
I bought mine for 140$ way back in 3.11, when it was shown as a concept, but I will CCU it to something else as soon as it will be available for aUEC. I give it a run, once in 3 or 4 session, but it becomes boring after a while.
Hopefully the in game price makes it more accessible
Great summary again Farrister, this is by far my favourite ship after a wipe just to get things going again. Keep them coming buds!!
I can see why!
When holding an item with the tractor beam, you can hold R to rotate the object with your mouse. Super useful when moving cargo in the cramped interior. And if you have head tracking, I believe there is an option to gimble the salvage heads and direct them with head tracking
Yes, that is an option! But it makes salvaging quite intense - you have to concentrate with your eyes at all times!
Great summary, i just recently bought one and quite like the salvaging gameplay. Bu oh boy did i bump into many things with those arms 🤦♂
Haha, so annoying when you do!
another great review always look forward to your take on a ship . as a non combat player myself love this ship and thought you had lost your mind when you said combat review lol agree bigger lights need plz cig. but all in all love solo salvage play loop. keep up the good work mate.
Haha yeah, it's just my common format by now :D
Just watched your vid and decided to swap my Cuttlass Black +£62 for the Vulture. just done it now! gonna go login and get salvaging (i can easily rent cutty with earnings) Thanks dude.
I hope you enjoy! I've been loving salvaging at the moment.
I absolutely love your videos Farrister, awesome job as always, thanks for bringing this information to us 😁
Thank you!
I love the Vulture I have been waiting for it since I started playing back in 2014.
Very informative and helpful. Thanks
Glad you thought so!
It would a great ship to use if i could use it. There is a bug where if you damage the salvage heads, even after claiming stays broken. Only known fix is server wipe. Great vid!
Oof :(
Thanks for the good review Farrister it is a relaxing job I enjoy in the verse. o7 😎👍
Thanks zman, o7!
I really love this ship and was looking forward to it. Debating on doing VLR combat missions and then salvaging them to make money. Or teaming up with a friend in a combat/cargo ship and making money together.
Love the video.
I think the latter would be much more profitable! Thanks :)
I started trying one on the free fly. I'm thinking of upgrading my cutter package to a vulture. To me they are roughly the same ship, save the salvage arms, and with the Vulture having 12 SCU of cargo. It is easier to carry vehicles in the vulture, and I actually was using it to run bunkers, as the plethora of downed and derelict ships means extra cash without having to shell out for a salvage job. I completely agree that the cargo grid should be officially expanded, and that the lights need to be made brighter. I'm not sure why Aegis ships can have such good lights and Drake ships sucks to bad. I'd also like to see a jump seat in the cargo hold for when it becomes and issue for a player not to be strapped down in flight, to accommodate the hireling moving boxes :P
That's what I did, but I bought another cutter a month later as a runabout. The vulture has a bit of a target on its back in my experience but it makes a good daily if you're an opportunist like me.
If I recall, it is a max of 1 crew.... I do wonder if it will support more with the life support systems, once they arrive in game.
@@hamitron It is max 1 crew, but Cutty has pull out seats that aren't counted as crew, as well as the Pisces has jump seats not counted as crew. I'd just like an option for an able-bodied crewman to move boxes, to have a place to sit.
It's expensive though!
I bought the vulture purely out of irritation for the latest mining changes which killed my mining spirit (it's a train wreck!) Having lots of fun with it. Have managed to use it in low level merc and bounty missions and then scrap the hulls of the ships taken :). Wish it had missiles for when the battles get tough, but sometimes a vulture just needs to fly away and pick on a different corpse :) Good video!
I feel you there - I can imagine more "rebalancing" of the different economic options at some point
Not so much a comment about the Vulture, I own one and absolutely enjoy using it, I just wanted to say I absolutely enjoy your videos and want to say thank you for producing such quality content.
Thank you for your kind words :)
Let's goo, loving this ship rn. Love the reviews even more tho!
Yeah!!!
I bought this ship on concept but ended up CCU-ing it a little while later. I've flown it, used it, and while kind of interesting, I don't regret my decision.
Fair enough!
Looking forward to being able to buy this in-game. Sadly the only other option for a salvage ship in game costs 15M, a far stretch from the 2M I have saved so far.
I would hope 2-3m will be the asking price - time will tell
Love the vulture very relaxing gameplay normally
Agreed
This video is long over due 😉. I absolutely love this ship!
Me too!
Love your reviews. I see you did a Reclaimer review for 3.17. Have you had a chance to multi crew salvage in one and would you consider releasing an updated video now that salvage is out?
I have, and I would - only they're very expensive to buy!
Great video.
And thank you again :)
I tried a vulture for a couple of evenings. While the gameplay loop was a little relaxing at first, I soon got bored both doing it solo and with a hauler friend. The poor lights make things quite difficult to be efficient when you are stripping the shadow side of the hull, too. The profits were better than most mid-sized cargo runs, though. The side door can be annoying to enter from EVA.
I know what you mean :)
thanks for the updates
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The power wash simulator is a nice and relaxing gameplay loop. Really enjoyable. And the bit about long claws is true, those are easy to bump into your salvage if you're not paying attention.
I'm one of those who do not consider having to get up to move boxes a fun gameplay. It fits a Drake ship design lorewise but it's still a chore and the fiddly ladder in between doesn't help.
Also, the ship is designed to not get hit. Small shields just can't tank a lot of damage and expect you to be dodging most of the shots. Considering this the sluggish Vulture needs to get out at the first sight of trouble. But the box wrangling makes you leave the pilot seat constantly, meaning you're completely vulnerable and blind a good deal of the time on the field.
Power wash simulator :D
Great video. But just on the profits - I can get about 190-200k from a completely full vulture, by packing everything in the back up to the door where the ladder is.
I can believe that!
This ship is one of the reasons why i pledged for a zeus mk2 cl, that way i can use the tractor beam on the ship to pull in the cargo and sell it whilst one of my friends continiues scrapping while i go sell the goods.
I tried the game a couple of month ago and that ship was my main driver. I love the salvage mechanic itself but the game was so buggy i ended up getting a refund. Perhaps one day if/when they fix the game i'll try it again and the Vulture will be my go to since i liked it so much. My favorite part is that you can get intro the cockpit via the ladder on the side which makes getting in/out very quick and easy.
You've done exactly what I suggest to people - wait for a free fly event, try the game, decide if you like it, and go from there. Smart!
A friend and I will take a Vulture and Taurus.. do a mission like “seize the data”. We salvage the “Black Kite” and make 120-150 k each.. one stays in the Taurus and tractor beams the cargo out of the back of the vulture..
easily over 100 boxes off that, should get 700k+
A reclaimer should be an incredibly huge payout
I will have a look into this ship now with the freefly event. Curious if i will like it or not. If so, i plan to get some LTI token and then upgrade it to the Vulture at another point. At least that's what is in my head right now :D
I'm just curious, why you didn't mention the Atlas QD or the Voyage QD. Atlas buy location is inconvenient, but the Voyage on Orison is pretty ok, as you can also buy other stuff for maybe other ships you own and the drive has nearly the same speed as the Zephyr but about double the max range.
I think just personal preference - I had a Zephyr laying around!
I know this is a small thing and could be considered a bit daft but I love that this ship has rear ramp spotlights that you can turn on and off. I hope they add these to other ships in the future.
Just wish the ones up front were brighter!
@@Farrister yeah they’re not the best, that’s for sure.
The comments on the length of the Baler arms is true and also odd given the vulture is a Drake ship as is the caterpillar which has frontal bump stop protection and warning bumpers.
The first wreck I ever salvaged, was a Mustang Alpha, that decided to ambush me and found out that the Vulture isn't exactly defenceless, the hard way.
Greetings out of my Vulture Cockpit at the moment :)
Greetings!
Pretty detailed of the Vulture, did you know (The salvage lasers can be switched to Gimbaled (press G) and they can also be spaced out to cover more of the hull (Mouse scroll wheel) ☺️😎
The gimbal doesn't work properly for me sadly, but that's a nice tip!
@@Farrister oh? What happens when you try to use gimble ? 😯
For most people I'd just recommend waiting till it's available for purchase in-game, 150-175 for an entry-level ship into a gameloop is just too much, same with the prospect which you can just rent for a day and earn that money back quickly.
Better just get like an avenger or c8x pisces and do a bit of everything, can still do hand mining and hand salvaging.
In hindsight I wouldn't have bought so many ships, especially not big ships and would've limited myself to just something like the 325a (the combat 300i) and the andromeda.
Agreed!
For an entry level salvage ship that’s meant to be used by one person, it would be nice if the process of stacking the boxes was automated, rather than you having to get up from your chair every time to move a box once it’s full.
I almost agree with you. I feel the ship is designed for a crew of 1.5, and i like the optionality of having a friend helping with boxes.
Maybe a tiny bit of modularity where you could give up a few SCU of cargo space for an autostacker. So you could have 18 SCU selfstacked or 14 SCU autostacked. I would enjoy that as an option.
@mineralin641 a crew of 1.5 is exactly right. It's fun with buddies but splitting the profits means less money than two solo-vultures. Not sure if increasing g the extraction rate would help multicrew or just make solo more annoying
A lot of people agree. I don't mind it too much, it makes it feel a bit different to mining for me.
Salvage also makes more money than mining in general. A single SCU of RMC is worth roughly the same as Tier 1 mineables like gold which are almost impossible to come by in any decent quantity. I'm a pretty good miner and still only manage about 2-4 SCU of Tier 1 mineables per run with the rest being Tier 2 or 3. You can get a lot more RMC in the Vulture in the same amount of time much, much easier, and it doesn't have the extra step of a refinery to get the max value for it.
It does at the moment, yeah - although not clear how long that will be the case as such things are often re-balanced
@@Farrister That's why I wanted to mention it, so people can have fun with that before it gets nerfed down to the core of the Earth like mining did lol.
Thanks for sharing
Thanks Tim
if you want to expand more maybe you could show these ships in different paint jobs too
Would be a full time job to keep up with that, I think xD
Am I right in thinking that (unlike the Reclaimer) the Vulture will not have the ability (when it arrives) to chop up ship frames left over from scraping all the hull?
It will be able to. But not to the same extent as the Reclaimer. The long arms the Vulture has, have tractor beams and other features that will be able to pull off limited amounts of ship pieces and store them underneath the cockpit in a small little salvage hold. If you look at the pictures off the Vulture on the pledge store you can see these features in action. That will give you an idea of how it will work.
Honestly I'll wait and see
Another epic review!
Thank you :)
I had a Vulture for a while (CCU chain from a C8R to a warbond Vulture) and it is a nice small ship for entry into Salvage..BUT there are/still a few bugs in Salvage that needs to be worked on and sometimes the Vulture has a Cargo grid issue so you can’t buy/sell unless you defer the cargo to another ship OR reclaim your Vulture (which does fix the cargo grid issue for a while.
For the price as a entry way to the Salvage industry play it is a tad too much $$ in my opinion.
Salvage is very smooth and zen like thing when it all works great though :)
Do you know if the vulture will fit inside the C1\catapillar?
good thing to note is you can actually get 25-26 SCU of RMC, but the 26 will require quite a bit of juggling... 25 would be easier..... i've made over 160K and if you do bunkers too salvaging any abandoned ships/wrecks and grabbing helmets from bunkers you can quite easily make far more... so much so ive made over 200K in 30 mins... but you can actually make far more if you find Maze as that sells for 90K aUEC per box and if you can load it up with 25 boxes.... 😉
Impressive!
@@Farrister will say if you look on the personal tab, check salvaging... look for the 30K ships... grab a ship that's easy to get in and out of and load boxes into and go... find the boxes and 3 mins on to the next, do that about 5-10 times depending on size of ship, 30 mins myself and an orgmate earned just over 3 mil.... no hull scraping in this, just collecting the cargo...
there's usually 4-5 boxes...
but be careful... they will be a mixture of Quantanium, Widow, some other dru... erm medical supplies.... and Maze... we took the MSR out and almost filled it but we got jumped by pirate NPC's.. so we headed to GH to offload and sell, only thing we couldn't sell was the Quant.
so or one of the other *cough* med supplies but 30 minutes overall a good boost of cash
Looks nice.
It is!
I would love to upgrade to a medium salvage ship as 12 scu is not a lot.
Agreed!
Bruh they put a 2nd door on the Vulture but still can't put one on my MSR. I's tired of opening doors boss😂
MSR is magnificent and deserves a second hatch (bunny hole)
Poor MSR :(
You forgot to mention it's future equipment that will include a tractor beam and hull muncher.
I usually focus on what's playable in-game at the moment; I'm always a little sceptical until I have something in my hands.
@@Farrister fair enough. I just thought it wouldn't be worth the time to redo this just for those two items.
@@christopherblair8787 I dunno, I'm finding with a lot of the re-works and changes to mechanics, I'm having to revisit a lot of these reviews as time goes on anyway. It's why I now put the patch number in the title!
@@Farrister again that's fair. However the tractor beam and muncher look to be arriving in 3.20 from what I've seen conjecture for so you may have to revisit this very soon.
I have mixed feelings about my vulture pledge. On one hand its the perfect ship and great for getting started after a wipe but on the other hand its occupying a big chunk of potential store credit. Im not sure ill keep it once they add it for auec purchase.
What would you get instead?
@@Farrister probably the c1 or the srv because by the time they release, they'll be cash exclusive and the vulture will be purchasable in game.
Theres some silly issues with the vulture, but i enjoy it. Really dislike how i have to risk destroying my ship with uncargospace clamped boxes to salvage a hammerhead fully and considering how it flies, it feels like ot should have an scu or two’s length added to its rear. Being able to make a multitool is great and kept my first salvage run with it from being annoying as i had that server issue where all my armor and tool disappeared from my body after i left the station.
Im ok with the huge space needed to speed up and slow down, but just think it needs a full cargo area and a bit of a cargo extension to justify it. Speed it up or give that cargo.
I get people wanting to break up the gameplay by moving boxes, but it also disrupts the zen of powerwashing ships and just seems stupid that a technology we have now is apparently unavalilable in the far future
I think it's down to preference somewhat. I'm cool with moving boxes, but it still feels like a novelty compared to mining
I have one vecause the reclaimer is more bugs than progress but its queued up as a ccu ship now until something amazing comes by
Reclaimer feels totally different too
@@Farrister There's definitely been some improvements. The back elevator comes down now from the outside, which is great!
For me, 3.19 increased the amount of crashes I get. they are 30k codes like 30018 but I get maybe 4 per session. Also I sometimes get stuck in one of the seats. I haven't had one session in the reclaimer that has gone smoothly.
The other thing for me, is that salvage missions ideally need a cargp ship. Its dangerous to get boxes on the reclaimer elevator. Landing at GH is fine, but I wouldnt want to try and land that thing at Brio's breaker yard.
With time, im sure that the reclaimer will be useful again :)
Honestly, the Vulture is underwhelming. For its price tag, I would have thought it would offer something more .....thought of?
Like you said, the headlights are barely usable. Too often I was salvaging in the dark. The cargo capacity is dumb, even if you can make it to 23 SCU by moving the crates yourself. And having to get up every 2 crates gets annoying fast. Making it every 4 wouldve been way better but only if we could lock more than its initial 12 SCU. The fact that you can actually leave the ship through the cockpit window means someone did know we would block the cargo entrance with more crates.
As always, nice review!
Yup...
Drake vulture the ladders of doom
The ladder to the cargo area is a great way to get out of the ship without the risk of opening the exterior doors to pirates
Scrap that!
They need to brighten the vulture lights.
And agree with that too!!
wish they would just make it an 18 scu ship as the ship already has a second entry and exit
Agreed!
Yeah... the designers obviously have played EVE online. This is almost identical to the Venture mining ship.
I'm not familiar with that one, but it's not too surprising - expecting a lot of cross over influences from different sci fi IP
It's like 1.8 million in game. I just bought it
Even less than that, I think it's about 1.3m!
Vulture desperately needs a S0 tractor beam in the back that can be operated from the cockpit. Got rid of my (for now) because of that. I love the salvage loop for how relaxed it can be, but it just became so annoying to deal with. Personal opinion, not here to argue over it
That's a great idea!
The fake laughter was abit weird but otherwise good video once again.
Wait, what fake laughter?
Is it buyable ingame now ?
Not yet, as of 3.19
does the roc fit?
You know, I didn't try!
Ah yes one of my daily drivers
I can see why!
my mom saw me salvaging with the vulture and told me to go mow the lawn...
Hahahahaha
were do i buy itt
That's the neat part, for now, you don't :D
I find getting around inside a little bit annoying. This is supposed to be a single-player ship which specializes in industrial game play. Running through 2 doors, then down a ladder, then through another door to handle the salvage is a little silly. As an industrial worker, you are supposed to be able to do your job quickly and doing all that running is a waste of time. I would have put the habitation area on the lower deck and had the salvage dispenser on the top deck. When you are "working", everything work related should be near by. Running past my habitation area while I am working makes no sense.
Encourages you to stop for a coffee break :D
@@Farrister While on the job? Hurston would NOT approve!
@@LeonLeybs666 haha
I have ignored the salvage in game as $175 entry fee makes it $0 value for my time.
Vulture remains only available for real cash, while CIG hypes and artificially inflates ingame value by putting RMC above the selling price of even gold.
And the Reclaimer is not worth grinding up over 30 million credits to get to.
As soon as the Vulture becomes available in game expect RMC prices to plummet under iron.
I dunno, I think the earning times for both mining and salvage seem fairly similar. But I agree it sorely needs to be available for aUEC purchase!
I like salvage, but holy smokes having to get up every few seconds to move boxes is hella annoying.
Haha, I don't mind it!
@@Farrister I’m hoping as salvage develops there will be more of a place for someone to go into ships and pull out components, and maybe cargo, while another does the stripping. My friend and I have a system where he brings the vulture and I bring a small cargo ship. Lol, I know that’s technically just moving the boxes part, but the thought of finding a juicy component excites me.
That bathroom on this ship is not fluffy friendly.
Haha
“12 SCU” I’m just glad space DOT doesn’t exist
DOT?
@@Farrister Department of Transportation: it’s a state agency we have in the states that among other things levy large fines for overloaded cargo lol
Probably got bumped up a few slots huh.
How do you mean?
@@Farrister well with the new salvaging changes, and the ship tractor beams, the vulture has more practical functionality. Right?
The lights are way to weak that needs to be fixed
Agree!
Im sorry, but the Zephyr, is one of the worst QD for S1... U guys should get an Atlas, HUR-L5. its range is better (77millions to 33) and with 151.000 km/Sec its good. and it costs 17K
Each to their own! I like the Zephyr for my Vulture owing to the mix of speed and range
Why does it take soooo long to make it available with in game money... 😫
So long!
When fleet on fleet combat goes live, I would love to see the tactics of a squadron of these with some Vanguard Wardens and Andromeda’s as missile boats.
A squadron of vultures?
First
So it would seem!
The fact that you have to pay real money to get your hands on it is shameful...
Hopefully not for much longer
"Entry level salvage ship"
*$175*
Both are true. It's entry level for salvage gameplay loop but also expensive.