HALLOWEEN 2 (1981) - WTF Happened To This Horror Movie?

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  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024

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  • @ryanpetersen3789
    @ryanpetersen3789 3 года назад +339

    This is easily my favorite Halloween sequel, and it’s the perfect companion piece to the first.

    • @Fezzy976
      @Fezzy976 3 года назад +43

      I know, I don't get the hate for this movie. Sure the inconsistencies are a little jarring only if you watch them back to back. The Laurie sister twist was amazing and it gave reason to Micheal escaping and going back home to finish off the rest of his family. The movie also gave the series a proper ending, killing off Micheal and Loomis to the point that they shouldn't ever be able to come back.
      But money talks, and the failed Halloween 3 idea didn't work, so bring back Micheal to take on Freddy and Jason.

    • @saggest
      @saggest 3 года назад +4

      Nope

    • @-.-.11
      @-.-.11 3 года назад +6

      @@Fezzy976 I just found this movie very boring and dull. Very forgettable and the siblings thing I never liked. But to each their own.

    • @ryangoyette3570
      @ryangoyette3570 3 года назад +5

      @@Fezzy976 don’t get me wrong, I love almost every Halloween movie, and I’ve probably watched everyone of them multiple times, so in a way I appreciate the sibling component, because it’s given us all these sequels, but… in the original 1978 Halloween, the idea that there was no rhyme or reason for Michaels Myers random killings, makes it scarier. There is no understanding as to why its happening, and by nature we fear what we don’t know or understand. It’s also more realistic, like in the randomness that serial killers’ victims are people they don’t know and don’t have clear motive’s to their murders.
      All the same, I love the whole franchise, so I’m not complaining.

    • @Fezzy976
      @Fezzy976 3 года назад +7

      @@ryangoyette3570 Oh no dude I totally agree and see your point. I just feel that this movie gets over the top hate. Its a sequel, it directly follows the original, so it had to "up its game" otherwise its just a repeat of the original in a different setting. I think it did up its game in terms of voilence, gore, character development and story. I also felt like its ending was perfect, with Loomis finally catching up with Micheal and ending him once and for all. It also has a pretty definitive ending with the explosion and fire. We didn't need the sequels (even though I too loved them all on their own merit). The idea to make the franchise into a sort of anthology with different stories, whilst not a bad idea, just didn't work and because of the popularity of Freddy, Jason and the slasher genre the fans begged for more so they had to bring Micheal back. I felt like this was a bad move and would of preferred to have followed Laurie, seeing how she copes with the aftermath, all her friends dead, he crush dead, learning about her real family, her decent into some form of mental illness from the truma of the events of the first two movies, whilst being haunted by images of Micheal and how she overcomes these horrors. I feel like this could of been a different form of horror, a more grounded and reality based horror. We have all seen countless slasher movies where we see the actual events of murder but rarely do we see the aftermath. I think this could of been a great direction to go in, making Halloween the more mature, adult, and focused slasher movie franchise seperating it from the sort of tongue-in-cheek horror that Freddy and Jason had become.
      I still love me some Halloween 6 though for its sheer campiness :P

  • @crumbum1167
    @crumbum1167 3 года назад +243

    Halloween II scared me the most as a kid, it forever made me terrified of hospitals.

    • @pendazareyrodriguez
      @pendazareyrodriguez 3 года назад +16

      I thought I was the only one

    • @nataliearreola6361
      @nataliearreola6361 3 года назад +19

      Nope, I too think a dark hall in a hospital is creepy

    • @isaiahholland1816
      @isaiahholland1816 3 года назад +3

      Same

    • @MG-fl5wk
      @MG-fl5wk 3 года назад +10

      Sorry, answered questions, creepy hospital, unique kills, flavorful cast (of victims), more enthralling music, this was/is the last of the Halloween/Meyers series and my favorite. Watching this late, alone, after trick or treating with my friends at 12-14 was scary as heck in the day. I dug Season of the Witch, but thought they should have gone with brainwashed cultists as opposed to ehh... robots.

    • @Bryyanfrm617
      @Bryyanfrm617 3 года назад

      Same I thought I was the only one

  • @bardledoo4023
    @bardledoo4023 3 года назад +341

    Halloween 2 is the best sequel and a great movie. I'm tired of people saying it's bad.

    • @romeostruedude
      @romeostruedude 3 года назад +34

      Me too I am so over everyone overhyping it being bad just because John Carpenter said it. Like come on, it’s a good film. He trashes on other Halloween films all the time. He had his way and made Halloween III which veers straight into crazy town. Perfect for those who do not enjoy slashers AT ALL. Great for those who love Halloween 3 but JC obviously didn’t like slashers and that’s a shame. But just cuz he doesn’t like it doesn’t meant we shouldn’t be able to like Halloween II.

    • @bardledoo4023
      @bardledoo4023 3 года назад +24

      @@romeostruedude Let's be honest John didn't want to make a sequel and was gonna hate it even it it turned out to be the citizen Kane of horror because he's stubborn

    • @Njbear7453
      @Njbear7453 3 года назад +10

      It’s great

    • @gkroll8467
      @gkroll8467 3 года назад +5

      It’s good plus I hate there’s no explanation where he was fir 20 years okay he’s killing people but it don’t explain where he stays plus no burn marks eyes intact

    • @michaelone9475
      @michaelone9475 3 года назад +19

      “You think that Halloween II is actually GOOD??….”
      “I do. And I’m tired of pretending it’s not….”

  • @emcoulter4459
    @emcoulter4459 3 года назад +309

    In retrospect, this is one of the best of the franchise and one of the better slasher films out there.

    • @vampirascoffin870
      @vampirascoffin870 3 года назад +6

      Bloody facts!!!!🔪🎃🔪

    • @RabidGerry
      @RabidGerry 3 года назад +14

      Oh for sure, this and 4 are as decent a sequel as you would want. I think two reeks of the first movie in vibe etc so for me it is the best, has. Good continuation feel to it from the original.

    • @JoakimOtamaa
      @JoakimOtamaa 3 года назад +6

      I don't like any of these, but they are important part of slasher genre so I approve. I just don't find them scary or entertaining enough. 2018 requel was one of the worst I've seen, same with The Predator.

    • @Bow-to-the-absurd
      @Bow-to-the-absurd 3 года назад

      Theres not many good slasher movies

    • @RabidGerry
      @RabidGerry 3 года назад +1

      @@Bow-to-the-absurd all depends on what you deem a good movie.

  • @scottmoreau5630
    @scottmoreau5630 3 года назад +63

    This movie often gets mediocre reviews, but I think it’s fantastic. It’s the only sequel that truly feels like the first movie. I enjoy this one just as much as the original.

    • @randycunningham7318
      @randycunningham7318 Год назад +1

      Agreed.

    • @GisherJohn24
      @GisherJohn24 5 месяцев назад

      I don't know if I can agree completely it's as good or better than part two but whenever you have Donald pleasence at the helm it's definitely going to be a decent movie as long as he is in it. The only thing about the hospital that really bothered me was it was so empty I just could not buy that there was only 8 to 10 employees give order and take at a hospital. It just felt so it impossible. But that's Hollywood for you. But overall I thought there's some really good scary moments in the movie and I really dig the synthesizer Halloween music

  • @willy565
    @willy565 3 года назад +280

    Loomis is such a bad ass, that his 6 shooter fires 7 bullets.

  • @bumblefritz
    @bumblefritz 3 года назад +154

    The Halloween franchise has become "Choose your own adventure" at this point. I still love Halloween II.

    • @FartSmucker
      @FartSmucker 3 года назад +4

      Yep, like the Saw movies they were just making it up as they went.

    • @ThatTopFiveGuy
      @ThatTopFiveGuy 3 года назад +14

      My favorite personal timeline is Halloween 1, 2, 4. The series ending on Jamie taking the mantle would have been perfect.

    • @saggest
      @saggest 3 года назад

      2 is just the worst

    • @mellowyello1478
      @mellowyello1478 3 года назад

      Texas Chainsaw Massacre franchise did it first. I think?

    • @bumblefritz
      @bumblefritz 3 года назад

      @@mellowyello1478 Yeah, that one is all over the place.

  • @klickklack3949
    @klickklack3949 3 года назад +182

    I love how it takes place in the same night of the og movie, making both movies combined the true 'night when he came home'.
    One of the best sequels ever made along with aliens and T2

    • @shaunrene1
      @shaunrene1 3 года назад +24

      I consider part 1 and part 2 one whole movie. i always watch them back to back

    • @klickklack3949
      @klickklack3949 3 года назад +5

      @@shaunrene1 so true... u cant watch one without the other.

    • @rbswords2353
      @rbswords2353 3 года назад +22

      I consider Halloween,Halloween 2,and Halloween:H20 the complete Halloween trilogy.

    • @shaunrene1
      @shaunrene1 3 года назад +4

      @@rbswords2353 Even though I didn't like H20 I can see that being the OG trilogy.

    • @gutterbois
      @gutterbois 3 года назад +4

      Me too

  • @What.99
    @What.99 3 года назад +137

    I don’t mind Michael being related to Laurie, and actually like that twist. It gave a reason to why Michael stalked her in the first movie. Michael kills all his victims immediately when he sees an opportunity to, but Laurie is the only victim that he played hide-and-seek and peek-a-boo with. Without that familial explanation, why was he watching her through the school window and behind picket fences? Was he just a shy boy with a crush on her? Nah, it just doesn’t work without that familial connection because of how Michael acted in the first movie, and how he’s acted in every single movie since.

    • @07foxmulder
      @07foxmulder 3 года назад +22

      Because he saw Laurie drop her dad’s keys off to his family home before she went to school. That’s why he followed her. But you’re right. Laurie’s foster dad asked her to drop keys off to the house her sister was murdered in, on the anniversary of her murder, while her brother just happens to be there waiting for her because he knew she would still be in the exact same town and knew exactly how she would look. Kind of makes Final Destination seem practical.

    • @robertpreston2220
      @robertpreston2220 3 года назад +6

      Does make more sense

    • @sdc3536
      @sdc3536 3 года назад +21

      By that logic though, why did Michael waste time stalking her friends if he just wanted to kill his sister? Its more horrifying knowing they aren’t related. Its just some psychopath who decided to kill people.

    • @Facesofevildead420
      @Facesofevildead420 3 года назад +9

      He wasn't just stalking her, he followed her friends too. Notice how in the original they aren't in his way at all? Yes we're shown that he follows her mostly but it's because she's the main character. Why is it not acceptable that he's an escaped mental patient who went back to his hometown n started stalking a group of young girls because he's a mental patient..

    • @lilkingspade
      @lilkingspade 3 года назад +12

      You're looking at it with the knowledge of all the other Halloween movies man.
      Erase everything you know about Halloween, and rewatch the first one. Michael just goes home, then Laurie walks up to his front door, and Michael is standing right there, and immediately starts stalking her And her friends. There's no rhyme or reason why.
      Halloween was originally named "the baby sitter murders" he's just killing babysitters.

  • @animejoe4041
    @animejoe4041 3 года назад +106

    I actually love the brother-sister connection. It kind of explains his relentless pursuit of her.

    • @davidw5532
      @davidw5532 3 года назад +11

      Me too man. It gives the story some depth to it.
      IMO they should have kept the sister angle for 2018 and just forgot everything after Halloween 2.
      I understand Michael is meant to be pure evil and it’s best never to explain why he’s like that but to have Laurie as his sister makes it very disturbing.

    • @ericabootzgibson4755
      @ericabootzgibson4755 3 года назад +1

      Yes agreed, it makes the movie more realistic to Me💯🤷🏿‍♀️😏🎃

    • @zdf14
      @zdf14 3 года назад +5

      @@davidw5532 If they kept Halloween 2 they would have to acknowledge him being shot in the eyes and burning alive. Wouldn't really make much sense.

    • @DuckGoddies
      @DuckGoddies 3 года назад

      Yeah it gives the movie more direction...without that it’s pretty boring...they should’ve just made a sequel to Halloween 4 or Halloween resurrection.

    • @yamahaguy1732
      @yamahaguy1732 3 года назад +4

      It actually mentioned it in the first film. In the Tv version when Michael escaped smiths grove loomis looks in his room and Michael carved “SISTER” into the door that’s how loomis knew where he was going

  • @85wastedyears
    @85wastedyears 3 года назад +49

    Halloween II has always been my favorite of the series.

  • @Relic827
    @Relic827 3 года назад +34

    I died laughing when the cop in the Kills flashback goes “Loomis said he shot him multiple times.” LOL yes he sure did

    • @HoustonSoto
      @HoustonSoto 3 года назад +11

      I actually said out loud “six times!” Doing my best Donald Pleasence when I heard the cop say that.

    • @stephyfra1243
      @stephyfra1243 Год назад

      @@HoustonSoto "Loomis SAID he shot him multiple times in the chest." Even then they were still doubting and almost making a joke of what Loomis was saying lol I get it though, who could still be walking around after getting hit 6 times lol ONLY M.M 🎃

    • @aft5264
      @aft5264 Год назад

      @@stephyfra124350 cent got shot 9 times and lived

  • @KenishuToshendo
    @KenishuToshendo 3 года назад +25

    Halloween II is primarily the reason why I was terrified of “The Shape” as a kid. I don’t remember seeing the original Halloween, but I think once I saw Halloween II, I became familiar with Michael Myers all too well. The revamped Halloween theme in the opening credits of Halloween II also became a terrifyingly nerve wrecking precursor to the frightening death scenes that awaited me later in the film. The death scene that really traumatized me when I saw it as a kid of course was the scalding/drowning of nurse Karen scene. It really did a number on me back then. Lol But, overall because of the slow building suspense and atmospheric cinematography of Halloween II, it is the most memorable and truly terrifying sequel in my opinion out of the entire Halloween series. I’m excited to see Halloween Kills, but I honestly wish that Halloween II was included in the events of Halloween 1978.

  • @yogisie
    @yogisie 3 года назад +31

    I watched this movie recently. I get the negative stuff said about it, but I think there's some really good stuff in the movie. Also, I'm glad the *real* problem of the movie was addressed. The death of Ben Traymer, Laurie Strode's crush.

    • @mellowyello1478
      @mellowyello1478 3 года назад +3

      Get off your alt, Brad Jones.

    • @yogisie
      @yogisie 3 года назад +1

      @@mellowyello1478 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Okay, that was funny!

  • @johnm5889
    @johnm5889 3 года назад +32

    I love the original Halloween, but Halloween 2 is my personal favourite

  • @Cosmict2000
    @Cosmict2000 3 года назад +16

    Part 1 and 2 are the best in the series!!!

  • @tajcee
    @tajcee 3 года назад +33

    This is honestly my favorite fim in the Halloween series, with Halloween ‘78 a slight notch below. Love Nick Castle’s original take as The Shape, but Dick Warlock takes it to a whole different level.
    Also really love the atmosphere of HII, as it legit feels like it’s taking place on Halloween night. It’s haunting af

  • @jesusgarcia5197
    @jesusgarcia5197 3 года назад +78

    This is a great sequel

    • @lutherheggs451
      @lutherheggs451 3 года назад +8

      Except it should have literally been the end of the series. Expert marksman Laurie Strode shoots out BOTH of his eyes and, clearly those were some special bullets that only poke out your eyes and stop before going though the brain killing him....
      Even IF you buy that he survived the explosion, Halloween 2 should have been the end of the "series" Halloween 4-Resurrection shouldn't have happened. Human beings cannot grow back their eyeballs back and a blind Michael Myers isn't very threatening.

    • @MagnetoWasRight1000
      @MagnetoWasRight1000 3 года назад

      @@lutherheggs451 that’s because Halloween two doesn’t just imply that Michael may be more than human (like part one) it explicitly states it.

    • @Live2Laugh27
      @Live2Laugh27 3 года назад

      @@lutherheggs451 haha I know huh perfectly placed shots lol

    • @selfstorage3112
      @selfstorage3112 3 года назад

      Halloween Kill's, ......in theaters,.....Now....

    • @selfstorage3112
      @selfstorage3112 3 года назад

      Maybe, Dr. Loomis did shoot Michael Myers 7 times??? ..,...
      ..but, Dr. Loomis, couldn't pronounce , 7 Times , so he said 6 time's.....lol..lol.....LMFAO....

  • @DCMarvelMultiverse
    @DCMarvelMultiverse 3 года назад +30

    I love this movie. Great twist. Great concept. Laughed so hard when Loomis chased the wrong man, getting the man killed, and causing a traffic accident!

    • @yogisie
      @yogisie 3 года назад +7

      The death of Ben Traymer is unforgiveable.

    • @t0k3verse
      @t0k3verse 3 года назад +7

      @@yogisie was that the guy Laurie want to date in the first film?

    • @prehistoricgentlemanbird9131
      @prehistoricgentlemanbird9131 3 года назад +4

      @@t0k3verse yes lol

    • @nickhoagland6568
      @nickhoagland6568 3 года назад +1

      RIP Ben

    • @t0k3verse
      @t0k3verse 3 года назад +1

      @@prehistoricgentlemanbird9131 yeah I came to the comments before I watched the video as he actually mentions it's her love interest 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @EnigmaticVayne
    @EnigmaticVayne 3 года назад +30

    Still the best sequel in the franchise

  • @jaredwatt9846
    @jaredwatt9846 3 года назад +8

    When he busts through the glass door is top 5 best moments in the franchise

  • @nlrproductions8106
    @nlrproductions8106 3 года назад +45

    Dr. Loomis’s madman like action in Halloween 2, Loomis literally saw Michael fall from the second floor ( which might not kill him depending) but a normal man wouldn’t walk away so easily and he took 6(7) shots. So thinking of it like that Loomis kinda is acting reasonable but still crazy.

    • @SegaGentleman
      @SegaGentleman 3 года назад +8

      Yes. Loomis is at his wits end. How could one be normal after watching a man you shot 6 times off a balcony continue to go on a rampage

    • @palaceofwisdom9448
      @palaceofwisdom9448 Год назад

      There were two versions of the ending, one where Loomis is shocked when he sees Michael is gone after the balcony fall, the other that's in the film is the opposite. It's kind of odd that he is calm and unsurprised, yet frantic in the sequel set on the same night.

  • @scottyjbd
    @scottyjbd 3 года назад +17

    I love the first 2 as a pair, basically one big film. And the brother aspect works for me, it doesn’t hurt the film at all considering what Michael did to one sister already.

  • @chibs1239
    @chibs1239 3 года назад +24

    It’s an extension of the first one basically one and two are one long movie. Thought it was a pretty good sequel. Not sure why the horror nerds over complicate it

  • @almosthalo
    @almosthalo 3 года назад +24

    Love Halloween part 2. Made sense why a psycho killer is after Laurie and only Laurie (trying to kill his family) and then later the daughter and the grand daughter. In part one he goes only after Laurie and kills those that stand between him and her. It made it scary that you might get murdered being friends with the wrong people ( Laurie and her future fam ).

  • @jaydavid1924
    @jaydavid1924 3 года назад +11

    I love how it takes place on the same night,the hospital feels so deserted and creepy,I wouldn't want to be getting chased by the Shape in some creepy hospital at like 3am on Halloween night,fuck that ,😂🤣🤣 really love this sequel,great to watch during Halloween season

    • @razorm4527
      @razorm4527 3 года назад +2

      3am would be nov 1st

  • @mrfacephone
    @mrfacephone 3 года назад +73

    I was too young to understand where carpenter was coming from back then and ya know no social media for everyone to cry on, that being said I totally get it now but personally I always liked the sister twist and was a little bummed that it was changed in 2018 but it's cool. Still the same awesome slasher I grew up with!

    • @elijahmcelroy
      @elijahmcelroy 3 года назад +18

      I liked the sister thing for the first two films. They didn't have to keep the family ties theme throughout the entire series however

    • @mrfacephone
      @mrfacephone 3 года назад +6

      @@elijahmcelroy I highly agree and can't lie, I kinda just pretend that the the telepath niece and cult stuff doesn't count or is a whole other alternate universe type thing.

    • @MrYac-ie8ie
      @MrYac-ie8ie 3 года назад +17

      @@elijahmcelroy yeah, they didn't need to keep pushing the family crap. i also think without the sister angle him being so damn hung up on Laurie 4 decades later makes little sense. but i think the whole town of Haddonfield being obsessed with a man who killed like 5 people 4 decades ago and then spent the rest of his life in a hospital doing nothing makes the reboot incredibly stupid.

    • @Sandman_Slim
      @Sandman_Slim 3 года назад

      @@mrfacephone Were you considering a lie?

    • @xancypillosi9497
      @xancypillosi9497 3 года назад

      When did it change. Where in the movie did they change that. I can’t remebr

  • @romeostruedude
    @romeostruedude 3 года назад +20

    I’m just tired of these let’s hate on Halloween II to make Halloween 2018 sound better. John Carpenter constantly trashes Halloween films and Halloween II is actually a really good film. Luckily I love this film, Halloween 4, H20, and Halloween 2018.
    If John Carpenter had his way we never would have had a Halloween 3. Just a brand new title altogether. No sequels. I’ll enjoy the films I enjoy regardless of the man who didn’t want to direct this film. Halloween II felt like the only film to capture the first films magic. Regardless of the twist. And even then the twist serves that films plot alone.

    • @thebogeymaniscoming
      @thebogeymaniscoming 3 года назад +1

      John Carpenter is the reason there was a Halloween 3. That’s his original vision for the franchise.

    • @romeostruedude
      @romeostruedude 3 года назад

      @@thebogeymaniscoming No. His original plan was to not even do a Halloween 2. It was just meant to be Halloween. I don’t hate Halloween 3. But I don’t really want to listen to the man who bashes every other Halloween film. It’s okay if I can make my own judgements on a film.

  • @scottstark5528
    @scottstark5528 3 года назад +5

    I have always considered 78 and 81 to be one long movie. I did see HII first way to young, eight years old, on HBO I think. It gave me nightmares made me uneasy about going into a hospital, something I still don't like doing to this day especially at night. Ironically enough it was also the television cut of HalloweeN, I saw before the theatrical cut, so the whole Laurie sister connection was canon to me before I turned ten in the early '80's.

  • @Kiddo_williams
    @Kiddo_williams 3 года назад +5

    I love Halloween 2. I used to watch it all the time when I was a kid.

  • @jsvett
    @jsvett 3 года назад +8

    This is an awesome movie. Personally the first two are the best and the only ones I recognize. Anything after that forget about it.

  • @benjaminknighton5724
    @benjaminknighton5724 3 года назад +13

    Best Halloween far as I'm concerned. The music , scariness, and continuation from the original movie is a masterpiece

  • @thomasb-o6j
    @thomasb-o6j 3 года назад +5

    I really like this film. It’s my second favorite of the series. The hospital setting gives it an eerie feeling.

  • @starshineraiser6729
    @starshineraiser6729 3 года назад +2

    This is one of the greatest movies of all time. R.I.P Ben Tramer. I will never forget you.

  • @travishenderson6598
    @travishenderson6598 3 года назад +5

    Critics hate it , but us horror movie fans love it ! Halloween 2 is a true slasher classic

  • @theangryhobos
    @theangryhobos 3 года назад +4

    I saw this movie as a kid and still find it watchable to this day so it can't be as bad as Carpenter thinks it is. I remember the scenes in the hospital had people yelling at the screen in the theater.

  • @petebaal2395
    @petebaal2395 3 года назад +1

    H2 1981!
    A masterpiece!!
    Seen it in the theater when I was kid!!
    It stuck with me for years!!
    Still 1 of my favorites!!
    It's still Going strong after all these years!!

  • @dr.loomis4221
    @dr.loomis4221 3 года назад +2

    Just purchased this film (again) thanks to Scream Factory releasing a 4K collector's edition. I picked up Halloween and Halloween 4 as well. They all look great.

  • @pfath77
    @pfath77 3 года назад +3

    Saw this movie on Vhs at a very young age and still love it. Don't mind the family connection and love Myers stalking people in a almost completely empty hospital with nothing but victims and no other patients except the one kid who got some "bad" candy...

  • @travis_mitchell
    @travis_mitchell 3 года назад +17

    The best part of the film aside from the incredible score, is the opening 20-30 minutes.
    It almost seamlessly builds off the tension of the previous film’s ending.
    (aside from Loomis gaining like 40 lbs on his way down the stairs and his jacket becoming white with an obnoxiously huge collar)
    In my opinion however, once Ben Traemer dies, the movie declines severely.
    Bracket who’s conflict with Michael is set up in the previous film with his daughter’s death, is abruptly abandoned, and he’s replaced with another random cop which removes all potential investment with the characters.
    While Donald Pleasance consistently gave Loomis so much personality and depth, the truth is we no absolutely nothing about him, aside from he was Michael’s psychiatrist.
    He’s cool to watch, but there’s little to grasp on it as an audience.
    Laurie Losing all of her friends in one night, Bracket finding out his daughter was killed are emotional tethers for the audience to latch on to.
    But once Bracket leaves and Laurie is put into a hospital bed, there are no characters left who experienced the horrors of the last film, to cope with those events in this film, so it feels kind of hollow.
    Loomis once again is aimless, literally being driven out of the movie to be told exposition, and then driven back into the movie at the end.
    Laurie is sidelined for two thirds of the movie, leaving us with a hospital of disposable horror cliche characters.
    The hospital setting is a fantastic idea, but falls apart from fundamental flaw:
    We never get a sense of how many people are in the hospital, characters instead introduced and killed as we go.
    Where is the mother, and The kid who ate the razor blade? We see them go into the hospital, but we don’t see them leave.
    There’s no cutaways to other patients in a hospital that would likely have many
    There’s no sense of geography, or awareness between characters, where any normal group of people would try to group up after the first couple deaths. Here, everyone is just in different rooms doing their own unrelated thing.
    There’s even an entire room of babies that is completely forgotten about.
    I think of Prince of Darkness, which is similar in that there’s a confined building full of characters, with evil trapped inside with them.
    We know where everyone is, where everything is, and what they’re doing.
    Halloween 2 uses its location just a set up a series of death scenes which is disappointing. The same going for Loomis and Michael who all just seem to teleport to places.
    Michael disappearing for a good 10 minutes of the movie at one point.
    Overall, an entertaining movie, with some great scenes and a phenomenal score that improves in the first in my opinion, but as a whole, the film has so many missed opportunities.

    • @DrDoomBloom
      @DrDoomBloom 3 года назад +2

      I like these points your brought up a lot.

    • @williamgiesen4910
      @williamgiesen4910 3 года назад +6

      The movie does show the razor blade kid and the mom leave the hospital

    • @travis_mitchell
      @travis_mitchell 3 года назад

      @@williamgiesen4910
      Perhaps I’m mistaken, and was remembering the tv version where it doesn’t show it.
      But the overall issue is we never cut to him or any of the other patients who may be at the hospital, so we never get a sense of the location and who’s in it.

    • @alfa01spotivo
      @alfa01spotivo 3 года назад +1

      4 is the way better sequel

    • @ericg1100
      @ericg1100 3 года назад +3

      To be fair, michael is absent from a lot of the original film too. His presence should be felt, but he shouldnt always be seen.

  • @MrDaynah
    @MrDaynah 3 года назад +8

    Love this sequel, I love the theory of this being her aftermath nightmare the ending with fog and smoke is very dreamlike

    • @jerrym1218
      @jerrym1218 3 года назад

      Not to mention the theme song of “Mr Sandman bring me a dream”

  • @TheyreStillOutThere
    @TheyreStillOutThere 2 года назад +1

    Atmospheric with some really creative shots and lighting. A few schlocky tropes make their way in which I always ding this movie for, but for the most part this is a damn good slasher movie and is always super rewatchable. I also enjoy the world building that’s going on here-the entire town really becomes a character in this movie with the locals discussing street names and locations with that kind of folksy familiarity you only get when you’re around people from small towns. Also, it gets all the meat and potatoes stuff right: great kills, a creepy version of Michael, a good mask. It’s actually my favorite Halloween movie and I watch it more often than the original.

  • @bendyblanco350
    @bendyblanco350 2 года назад +4

    Halloween 1 & 2 taking place on the same evening was brilliant. Regardless of whatever has came afterward, these two are far superior to the rest. N I was terrified of the hospital chase scenes during my first watch.

    • @darthtrip7188
      @darthtrip7188 8 месяцев назад

      Ehhh..Halloween 2018 is better than Halloween 2 1981.

  • @ScytheSalinas
    @ScytheSalinas 3 года назад +1

    Just watched this for the first time yesterday. I was surprised it has a bad wrap, it might be one of my favorite sequels.

  • @paulrbrtsn07
    @paulrbrtsn07 3 года назад +6

    Halloween II is arguably better than the first.

  • @JazzyUte
    @JazzyUte 3 года назад +13

    I always felt robbed with Halloween II. It not only underutilized Laurie's character, replacing her for more scenes with the uninspiring hospital staff, it absolutely blew the creepiness setting of the hospital. The hospital might be the most ingenious setting for this series and it does not do the awesome setting justice. In fact, much of the hospital's scenes are boring as hell. Despite having such a fantastic backdrop for Michael's mayhem, I actually felt the most engaging parts of the movie happened on the streets of Haddonfield: either Michael's early movie roaming or Dr. Loomis' interaction with Brackett/Hunt.

    • @ferox965
      @ferox965 2 года назад +1

      She was a patient in a hospital.

    • @thomasffrench3639
      @thomasffrench3639 2 года назад +1

      Yeah Friday the 13th part 4 uses the hospital setting more effectively, and that was 10 minutes

    • @randycunningham7318
      @randycunningham7318 Год назад

      I think the hospital setting was effective.

  • @MarcHartway
    @MarcHartway 3 года назад +3

    I loved the twist that Laurie is Michael’s sister. It gave the first story meaning as to why he stalks her & her friends while letting others pass by because they don’t interest him. Whether or not we liked it the cult of thorn(which I thought was garbage) add in gave more depth to why he hunts his family down. I feel like the movies just fail to give us one storyline everyone can be happy with. Since there’s like 5 different universes if you wanna call it that

  • @erinmichaels9930
    @erinmichaels9930 3 года назад +17

    The best movie in the franchise......my opinion!

  • @hailcthulhu419
    @hailcthulhu419 3 года назад +3

    I'm sorry, but this still the second best one. This one is actually pretty dang good and it is infinitely better than any of the other sequels. The brother thing gives Michael a motive for coming all the way back to Haddonfield, rather than just starting his rampage immediately after escaping the hospital. That plot twist didn't have to ruin any future sequels and saying so is giving a pass to the failures of those later writers and directors. The new continuity also makes no sense. How could one deputy have caught this leviathan, that from the first movie has been shown to be superhuman? He couldn't. Why would this embodiment of evil peacefully sit in a psychiatric hospital for forty years without hurting anyone? He wouldn't. It doesn't make any sense. Furthermore, I'm still pissed about the filmmakers making the claim that there was nothing supernatural about Michael leading up to the 2018 movie, when in that move he does multiple physically impossible things that would require superhuman strength to do. Then in the new movie he kills a significant portion of the Haddonfield population in ways that no human being could possibly accomplish, all after being beaten, stabbed and shot. Shitting on this movie, while fanboying on the new continuity is pretty weak.

  • @nofunleagueAF
    @nofunleagueAF 3 года назад +6

    “YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT DEATH IS.”

  • @Ataraxia462
    @Ataraxia462 2 года назад

    The stalking scene in the storage basement when that damn elevator simply will NOT arrive quick enough...just fantastic tension and one of my favorite scenes in any slasher.

  • @ApolloMcrib
    @ApolloMcrib 3 года назад +50

    I like how Michael's eye regrew itself in a matter of hours after Laurie stabbed it out with a coat hanger in part 1

    • @lutherheggs451
      @lutherheggs451 3 года назад +18

      Well he grew back both of his eyes in Halloween 4 after Laurie shot out both of his eyes...Clearly not only is Laurie an natural expert marksman but, had those special bullets that only shoot out your eyes and stop before going into your brain killing you on the spot.

    • @Facesofevildead420
      @Facesofevildead420 3 года назад +2

      She doesn't stab his eye out, in 2018 he still has it but it's damaged. Not gone.

    • @robertpreston2220
      @robertpreston2220 3 года назад +2

      He is supernatural

    • @Facesofevildead420
      @Facesofevildead420 3 года назад

      @@robertpreston2220 eh I mean he's described as a force but I don't think in 1 and 2 he's supernatural.

    • @robertpreston2220
      @robertpreston2220 3 года назад +6

      @@Facesofevildead420 he had to be I mean damn he was shot and stabbed a million times. Plus he knew how to drive and could make stuff move with his mind. He knew who Lori was even though he was locked up and he knew how to get to his town even though he was locked up most of his life. He was very supernatural

  • @boundby1nk
    @boundby1nk 3 года назад +1

    Regardless of its history, I love this movie as it was my introduction to Halloween and was readily available, en loop, on HBO. I was too young for the original and no one in my family would grow to love horror as much as I.

  • @williamgiesen4910
    @williamgiesen4910 3 года назад +2

    The thing about the brother sister twist that people seem to forget is that HII was intended as the end of the Michael Myers storyline. It’s not this movie’s fault that they decided to keep bringing MM back. If you keep that in mind, it’s not that bad of a twist.
    Also kind of disheartening seeing Carpenter trash the movie and Rosenthal who apparently was just trying to make something similar in tone to the first movie. I don’t know how long it’s been since he’s publicly talked about it, but it would be nice to respect that most fans of the franchise like the movie

  • @shaunrene1
    @shaunrene1 3 года назад +6

    John Carpenter has been age 73 for the past 40 years

  • @mrKWJones
    @mrKWJones 2 года назад +3

    I loved this movie. I actually thought Michael was scarier in this movie than the first

  • @CaptToilet
    @CaptToilet 3 года назад +17

    The only thing I really had an issue with in H2018 was how PTSD'ed Laurie was. It was a one night with a killer and the way she was acting was like it had happened for several weeks and that she was primarily being stalked. Michael was never truly after Laurie, he was just there to kill whoever he pleased. If H2 was considered Canon in this new alternate universe then perhaps I would have accepted her mentality a bit more.

    • @ryanpetersen3789
      @ryanpetersen3789 3 года назад +3

      Agreed 100%

    • @klickklack3949
      @klickklack3949 3 года назад

      So true 👌

    • @MidnightBard
      @MidnightBard 3 года назад +3

      I don't think that's how PTSD always works. I think that one night was traumatizing enough to affect her. Even if she wasn't the main target, she still was hunted down by Michael. If it went untreated, it probably got worse over time.

    • @sertorrhenclegane
      @sertorrhenclegane 3 года назад +1

      I think we're dancing over something else when it comes to that night. Laurie was in the presence of pure evil, something with no rhyme or reason to it. That, more than anything else, may have been what made the way she was in the current timeline. Once something like that has touched you, you're going to be kind of screwed up. Look how Loomis slowly gets crazier and crazier in the original timeline to see my point.

    • @LouiepTv
      @LouiepTv 3 года назад +4

      Spot on!!! I was watching the movie thinking. The Laurie we saw in part 1 if we're just counting part one would most likely move out if town an changes her name (like in H20) rather than become Sara Conner

  • @Jonnnn_5
    @Jonnnn_5 3 года назад +3

    1981 Halloween is actually my favorite Halloween movie next to the original, It’s a better sequel than 2018 imo.

  • @attila7092
    @attila7092 3 года назад +3

    I love Halloween 2..it's great! It was meant to be the final film in the series so how can it be blamed for being a problem for the future sequels? Those sequels shouldn't have happened.

  • @LegendaryDrRackpull
    @LegendaryDrRackpull 3 года назад +21

    Great sequel, after this one the series rapidly declined

    • @Thatguy55595
      @Thatguy55595 3 года назад +11

      Halloween 4 is goated idc what no one says

    • @cablehogue599
      @cablehogue599 3 года назад +6

      Halloween iii is the best sequel

    • @pikachureynolds1110
      @pikachureynolds1110 3 года назад +3

      @@cablehogue599 season of the witch is an underrated horror gem, and can kinda explain why Myers went crazy as a child, he was wearing in my opinion another iteration of the masks that turn kids heads into bugs, but for him it makes him the "shape" explains how he seemingly kills his family out of no where. Just a small fan theory.

    • @dietisgreat
      @dietisgreat 3 года назад

      @@Thatguy55595 Halloween 4 sucks

    • @Thatguy55595
      @Thatguy55595 3 года назад

      @@dietisgreat No

  • @zncuentertainment712
    @zncuentertainment712 3 года назад +8

    "I know what you're thinking, did he fire 6 or 7 shots?"

  • @dragongeraldb
    @dragongeraldb 2 года назад +2

    as a 10 year old, i loved watching this, by myself, while my mother worked 11-7, no father or babysitter. damn saying this out loud makes me think i might have a few issues. the ending was great with that creepy sandman song.

  • @dustinray1840
    @dustinray1840 3 года назад +2

    I actually thought of the dream theory as well. In the 2018 film it would have been nice to see a real quick flashback of all the horrible masks after Halloween. Just to chalk it up as everything after Halloween just being a dream.

  • @bigsteed007
    @bigsteed007 3 года назад +2

    I think they should have kept parts of this movie as cannon and somehow explained that the explosion at the end didn’t happen (dream theory) and that they are not siblings.
    I found it hard to believe Laurie would be that traumatized as we see in 2018 just from the events of 1978. If part 2 happened, she would have had legit reason to fear that this killer would still want to get her for some reason.

  • @MrJawstherevenge87
    @MrJawstherevenge87 3 года назад +1

    I love how Loomis evolves over the series into his own madness by Halloween 5 and deteriorated in Halloween 6

  • @randallpetroelje3913
    @randallpetroelje3913 2 года назад

    I got all kinds of fever dreams. There’s so many remix and rehasches that aren’t even worthy but some but actually do it justice the franchise that is. Love your show man

  • @shahfacekillah
    @shahfacekillah 3 года назад

    I saw this before the original. When I was a very young child, my aunts would often babysit me. They were watching this and all I remember is being terrified of hospitals for awhile afterwards.

  • @breakerprepper
    @breakerprepper 3 года назад +2

    Halloween 2 is my fave, him walking down the steps was bad ass, as Laurie she was in the basement and she was trying to get away had me screaming at the TV RUN Laurie!!!

  • @LaffinKing
    @LaffinKing Год назад +1

    I actually loved how the sequels were so inconsistent and many times, bad. I think it makes the universe of this franchise more grand and fun. You have the serious movies and the silly slasher movies

  • @thecat5872
    @thecat5872 Год назад +1

    Yeah it’s probably my favourite of the series after the first it’s interesting how this film was adapted and made with the sister thing , it’s my guilty pleasure and scared me as a kid in the 80s

  • @autism-is-unstoppable8017
    @autism-is-unstoppable8017 3 года назад +1

    The cinematography in this movie was on point, it reminded me of an Italian horror film.

  • @LSSJTHOR
    @LSSJTHOR 3 года назад +1

    *HALLOWEEN 2 IS THE BEST HALLOWEEN!*
    Then the original.
    Both movies combine to make a single *MASTERPIECE*

  • @RadioofHorror
    @RadioofHorror 3 года назад +3

    The Sister/Brother part is great for parts 1 2& H20 and THATS IT!!! I have purged HR from my head with acid

  • @AmgedphaLimael
    @AmgedphaLimael 3 года назад +1

    Great content.
    Ever considered the movie "Needful Things" as subject for your video's?

  • @seb6226
    @seb6226 3 года назад +3

    I wish this canon to the 2018 timeline. The twist at the end is amazing and hw2 is a great film. I think it makes sense, the meyers family lost their daughter, their 2nd became a serial killers, so they have another child to recitfy the wrongs. To avoid the mistakes of the past and save the meyers lingeage they putt her for adoption to avoid the mistakes of the prior children. I hope they write it back in, they can easily do that.

    • @javieremoya
      @javieremoya 3 года назад

      except it undoes the theme of the first...that evil can be anywhere...
      instead it makes evil a REALLY specific scenario...

  • @tellemstevedave5559
    @tellemstevedave5559 3 года назад +2

    Laurie being his sister isn't a problem at all, the problem was having Michael go after other family members he never knew about.

  • @alejandromolinac
    @alejandromolinac 3 года назад +1

    Little side note.... I bought the VHS for this flick in the mid 90's at a K-Mart in New York City..... My mind was blown away how a K-Mart was laid out on multiple floors in a building.....

  • @Silly81
    @Silly81 3 года назад +1

    I remember growing up watching this movie as well as the original. My sister and I used to watch this and lots of other horror movies and TV shows. She loves this movie to this day but for me, not so much. I didn’t hate it but I knew that something was different about it compared to the original but I couldn’t put my finger on what it was. This video explains my exact sentiments about the movie. Again I don’t hate it but the first Halloween was different, it was unique because of the suggestion of violence instead of the in your face graphic violence in part 2 as well as the execution of the first movie.

  • @entertainmentwizard2703
    @entertainmentwizard2703 3 года назад +14

    You are way to hard on this movie blaming it for mistakes other filmmakers made with future entries! Halloween 2 is a great follow up and is still the best sequel in the series!

  • @calvincoleman
    @calvincoleman 3 года назад

    Has anyone told you that you sound like Norm Macdonald? Also great channel.

  • @BNatoAk
    @BNatoAk 2 года назад +1

    The "off" part of H2 was a scarier. The "og" Halloween 2 is my favorite Halloween 🎃

  • @johnhermanson5249
    @johnhermanson5249 3 года назад +8

    Most memorable scene for me: Michael walks through the glass door (almost) without flinching.

    • @Njbear7453
      @Njbear7453 3 года назад +2

      When he grabs the knife from the neighbor’s house. “You want mayonnaise or mustard?”

    • @jerrym1218
      @jerrym1218 3 года назад +1

      @@Njbear7453 and then….
      👻🤡🎃
      Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!
      Next scene…

    • @ianmeadows8719
      @ianmeadows8719 3 года назад

      For me it was after Michael cut the cops throat then turned to look at Lori and Loomis

  • @daviddavidson8050
    @daviddavidson8050 2 года назад

    Hi! I'm creeped out by the whole dream theory bit, BUT can now understand the direction that they went in for the 2018 reboot which is, in all honesty, my favorite of the entire franchise besides the original one from 1978.

  • @JakeGuitarCovers
    @JakeGuitarCovers 3 года назад +1

    The fact that the person they absolutely destroyed with the police car, who they thought was Michael, was actually Ben Tramer is hilarious

  • @palaceofwisdom9448
    @palaceofwisdom9448 Год назад

    I never disliked this movie at all. I first saw them so close together that I always thought Laurie being Michael's sister had been at least implicitly established in the original. The only odd part is why a hospital would be dimly lit and nearly abandoned. If anything ER's tend to be more crowded at night.

  • @Jason_Voorhees.
    @Jason_Voorhees. 2 года назад

    This was actually one of my favorites of the franchise for a looong time

  • @Userunknown0010
    @Userunknown0010 3 года назад +6

    I actually like Halloween 2 more than the 1st movie , i must be the odd one hahah

  • @Njbear7453
    @Njbear7453 3 года назад +1

    Also- the MUSIC in halloween 2 is more eerie and creepy with alan howarth’s organ and synth.

  • @elphaba4674
    @elphaba4674 3 года назад +2

    I go back and forth on the whole Laurie and Michael are siblings thing, sometimes I like it, sometimes I like Michael just being a boogeyman, idk lol 😆

  • @oh.....5075
    @oh.....5075 3 года назад +3

    I love this movie I actually love them all but Halloween 2 in the hospital scared the hell outta me has a kid. His mask is great and him slowly stocking as he pops in and out of the lights. I live Micheal !! 4 more days until Halloween kills drops!!!! Let's go!!!!!

  • @alphantom0657
    @alphantom0657 3 года назад +1

    Ben Tramer, man. Talk about the wrong place at the wrong time 🤣...and what always got me is how he just happened to be dressed exactly like Michael Myers the very night Mike does his killing spree. I mean, it's not like Mike's choice of "costume" was a popular TV or movie character, like, why that outfit dude? lol

  • @jeremyhemp8241
    @jeremyhemp8241 3 года назад +1

    H2 was fantastic! First time I watched it was Halloween night 1989. Freaked me out.

  • @rickyrichreacts9667
    @rickyrichreacts9667 3 года назад +3

    Halloween > Halloween 2 > H20

  • @86compgeek
    @86compgeek 3 года назад +3

    I disagree that Myers seemed off in this movie. I thought Warlock nailed the role.

  • @gojewla
    @gojewla 3 года назад

    The hospital is a creepy and claustrophobic setting. Long, seemingly endless hallways make great chase scenes.

  • @SethCrimson
    @SethCrimson 3 года назад

    Please keep them coming

  • @ericabootzgibson4755
    @ericabootzgibson4755 3 года назад +4

    Love Halloween II, it's always been and always will be My favorite, it's creepier, intense, and way mo interesting to Me. So underrated, and Idgaf who doesn't like it, or thank it's bad b-c I Love it!!!!💯🤷🏿‍♀️👍🏿👏🏿💀🎃🔪🧡🖤🧡🖤🦇🕷️🕸️👻🔥

  • @therosebride
    @therosebride 3 года назад +1

    I like the dream theory idea. Gives a whole new layer to all the movies without having to worry about continuity

    • @Fezzy976
      @Fezzy976 3 года назад +2

      Have you never seen Rob Zombie's Halloween 2??

  • @MrCraigblaze
    @MrCraigblaze Год назад

    Thanks for the upload !! The actor who played Michael in this one is played Is played by Dick Warlock who is an actor and stuntman !! Dick Warlock Is the father actor Billy Warlock..Who is also vertically challenged !! And The actress who played the nurse is married to Rick Rosenthal in real life !!

  • @monangotang8254
    @monangotang8254 3 года назад +1

    The relationship doesn't actually bother anyone , noone said shit about it until we got one interview where Akkad called it pedestrian and Carpaenter agreed and that caused an issue out of nowhere