Yeah. My most popular content is from 4 years ago and still getting the bulk of views/watch time. While it's nice to know that good content can (sometimes) stand the test of time, it's also kind of depressing being a shadow of my former self.
I love the idea "focus on livestream as a secondary market to your brand" This makes PERFECT sense. live streaming for 8-12hrs in a day does little for you. you can spend that time writing scripts, recording videos, social media posts, networking, story boarding.....the list goes on. Have event based live streams and polished videos. I think this is the future.
@@MaynesWorld well been streaming for two years now, did every strategy I can find and apparently I am the problem, I have no selling point and I can't be myself cuz I am a boring person to watch, not good in any game I'm a casual player and people are just being nice to me and that is it! I feel lost and I don't feel like continuing unless I am another person, I am trying to improve but I dunno if I can offer something different to the table or something unique for the people to watch! I am not meant to be a streamer what was I thinking of getting into this!
@@sammoace So, going by that metric...what about just chatting? Is there a topic you know inside and out? Maybe you aren't meant to be a gamer, but may have some knowledge that may be beneficial to people.
@@MaynesWorld again, like I said man I am a boring person and I don't know about if I have interesting knowledge to share with people, I can be a good friend and that is it. when I talk people don't listen, but I have thought about doing a podcast but I don't know man, the bar has been set high.
"Be someone interesting" Sometimes it's not what you THINK you'd find interesting, but something that comes you naturally and with passion that goes overlooked when the time comes. Thanks Devin
Ive been stuck in the 5-10 viewer range aside from raids/hosts for about 2 years now so I really appreciate your opinions and ideas on keeping motivated. It definitely gets tough sometimes!
We are in the same boat. Just started live-streaming and since we have only 11 subscribers, it’s not big.. but we normally record and posts after editing. Last week was our first livestream and we have some work to do.. Keep it up! It is all worth it in the end!✌🏼
Ancillary and analogous are indeed words, although something being ancillary would mean it was connected to but supporting the first thing rather than completely separate. Maybe that's what you were going for though. Thanks for this Devin. I made a 'failed start' at Twitch streaming and right now I'm rethinking how I want to do this. I think now I'm just going to focus on RUclips entirely including streaming here. I think another thing I found unmotivating is the editing process; I realise the need for evergreen content but editing is a means to an end for me and not something I can find passion in. Part of this is probably just getting through that early phase of learning where the process is more draining due to the fact that you're learning a new skill and videos take longer to make when you're basically a noob at the software involved. It's like I have the vision and there's probably a way to do it but my skills aren't adequate and that can be tiring. Your videos have reminded me that it's the right approach though even if I'm in a learning phase for now and it can only improve as I gain more ability.
Still here at 25:20 ^O^ Taking notes as always! Even though i get about 30-50 viewers at a time and 100 viewers on good days, i still know there's more to learn about streaming and how to leverage it. And that is, letting go of viewer counts. I'll try to do this and spread it to my friends. Thank you so much for doing this!
Devin, your content really brought me out of a long rut. Thank you for providing the value you do. These past 5 videos I've watched all the way through and can't even explain to you how helpful these are.
Your videos are interesting and incredibly insightful. The amount of knowledge you give away for free is absurd. On a side note I'm literally inhaling these videos like ketamine. Your frequent uploads are very appreciated.
The biggest issue I had with "learning" is watching someone large and thinking "this person doesn't know what they are talking about. The more I stream the more people will find me." What a fool I was. Learning from larger creators and thinking about what they say has been the biggest push for my growth in the past 6 months. When I started taking all of my other platforms besides twitch more seriously. I'd much rather make a video everyday stream 2 or 3 days a week and provide the helpful content I'm starting to make. Thank you Nash for guiding the people that really are listening and not just watching
The part about documenting the journey is so important and really resonated with me. I used to stream variety and wanted to commit to Overwatch but I was a low rated player. I decided to stop streaming for months and dedicate all my time to improving at the game because all the top streamers were high rated. When I finally got to GM I tried streaming again, lost all my viewers, and couldn't adapt to playing the game at a high level on stream while being entertaining. It was a disaster. Don't be me, listen to Devin and just make stuff now, even if you're scrub rated in the game you want to be known for.
Those old strange ass personal development videos you first made on this channel really helped me out. They are some of the best on youtube and I have them on a playlist for myself to watch when im feeling down. Thanks for never deleting them devin.
Although I'm not a live streamer, I'm interested in how the things you speak about work and your videos are quite entertaining and give insight on these topics, thank you for doing what you do
These videos are awesome. I used to stream after school and ran into so many of the issues you bring up! It got depressing because I was sitting there doing the zero view streams with the occasional unsustainable 20 viewer break outs. I’ve actually been taking notes and digging deeper into who I am and what I’m good/bad at, how I portray myself, and what I can do to improve as a person! Currently in the military but I’ve always been super interested in gaming and content creation! Just wanted to say thankyou for this information! As you stated, this doesn’t only apply to youtubers and streamers!
That last point is too accurate. I started out streaming with makeup tutorials--didn't get a lot of traction. I then transitioned to doing ASMR (and with that I mean non-sexualized ASMR that actually gives value to people) which helps me grow in a variety of ways not only in viewers, followers, etc. but it goes back to that I'm learning new skills and learning about a new community I was never a part of before (which therefore keeps me motivated). I'm just a small streamer still in the grand scheme of things but I can vouch for all of these tips. Thanks Devin!
25+ mins in. "Its always better to make a youtube videos or some evergreen content" GODDAMMIT YES! I spent MONTHS building up on youtube before touching streaming off your advice. Its paid huge dividends and continues to even a couple months into streaming. I'm so glad you have the advice out here so I can direct others to it. Also as far as being entertaining, yes I'm found my niche and I LOVE it. Horror, voice acting, this whole horror host thing I do is a huge passion that has reached folks and keeps them coming back. I'm not a expert, I'm a entertainer that focuses on what I'm passionate about and I share that.
I learned this the hard way lmao. I'm slowly getting better at cc just by presenting videos instead of streaming. I totally get what you mean! I found my niche too by being informative about my favorite game of all time! Mortal Kombat!
Wow that "I'm not an expert I am just an entertainer focused on what I am passionate about fits and strikes me very well kabby that was my very well put and elquient way to put it. I made the mistake of streaming first but hey I was able to change my course to RUclips cuz I feel progression in there even if it's slow because slow is better than nothing imo
I acctually watch all of your videos fully from first to last SECOND. They are super helpfull for streaming as well as advice for live which is super cool. Keep up the good work and i can't wait to see your next video :)
I might be one of a miniscule percentage, but I watch over 90-95% of every sinle video I click on. To the point that I will go back and rewatch anything I missed, didn't understand, or lost my train of thought during. I feel like most people do with RUclips what I do with songs, listen until satisfied, switch, repeat. See ya at 32:20 when I get there!
honestly I'm mostly the same, if I'm interested in a video I'll watch the whole thing through, hell, even if it's a thing I know absolutely nothing of and don't care at all, if it's interesting, I'll watch it all the way through
Yes I am still watching at the 25 minute mark. These past few videos Devin have truly given me an entire new mindset not only around content but also other things like my current education and just daily organization as well. Really do appreciate it man
*Be someone interesting* Best advice that I've heard! This is the piece I've been missing from the puzzle. With this advice I am going to be unstoppable! For real though, great video Devin! I love the content that you put out. It has helped me so much!
If you want to be just a streamer it would probably be easier to time travel back 9 years than it would be to get to 1k from 0 viewers within the next year.
I've been in a slump lately where I went from being happy around 50 viewers down to feeling like I tanked below 19 viewers. Pretty sure though that my attitude hasn't helped it either. Dealing with a separation and trying to be a responsible adult and showing my kids that a split doesn't have to be a war. Great video as always Devin, truly do appreciate the solid business advice and clear view on how the industry works.
I made it to the part where you said comment if I made it to the part. :) That line "I could live a hundred lifetimes and not get bored" is the truest shit. Any time I hear someone complain about being bored I just hear someone taking life for granted.
appreciate you calling us out at the end for still watching LOL your video came highly recommended by a friend and was full of so many good thoughts to try to focus on and think about better. thank you for taking the time to make videos like these.
This video was the culmination of like everything I’ve been learning from you over the past year or so. Seriously has completely changed the way I create content. Such enormous value! Thank you so much for making this video! One of my top favorites of yours.
Made it all the way through! Was going to comment at 25 mins but didn't want to be distracted. Thank you for the analysis and solutions! Great talk as always.
I love the "make something for another platform" part. I'll have to do this once I start streaming again when my voice recovers. At least I can feed my RUclips channel and grow/learn this way in various ways. ^^
I've really enjoyed the prevailing narrative the past few videos of "provide something of value". Here it is, "Be someone interesting". The last video was about selling yourself in a pitch. It's making me reflect on the ways I interact with the world. What value do I add in each scenario. Figure it out and then learn how to present that value in a way others find attractive. And if there isn't enough value learn how to add it. As I'm writing this I'm realizing it sounds a lot like treating myself as a product I am marketing to the world. I am not a content creator but I think that mindset can have positive applications in my life. Be it personal or professional relationships. Thanks for making me think, Devin. Great vid.
The last bit of knowledge that you gave about finding something to be passionate about, or stay a boring potato. That one hit different. Because you hear all the time from everyone "Make content elsewhere.".. "Diversify." Not to say that you saying it is bad; because it's just another voice telling us the truth; but I needed to hear that. The truth, and that apart from the opinion 10 or so lurking accounts, I'm a potato. I'd rather be hashbrowns if nothing else. At least those are desirable. Also your future of streaming video was mind boggling-ly awesome. Loved every second.
Before watching, this is the best thumbnail+title choice you've made so far. It was a great idea removing the person out of it as sometimes it can add an unneeded layer of vagueness (for now it's the best way I can describe it). This way it's simple enough, easily relatable and gives just the right amount of information to be intriguing, leaving the viewer curious to check the actual content. I hope you watched the video from Veritasium about thumbnails, it's one of my favorite ones of all time :)
your videos always help me to get my mind clear. I started uploading videos to youtube and was just so surprised by all the support i never expected getting, specially because i got like a 30-40 viewers on twitch and been streaming for +1year. And i can see people coming to my channel from the youtube videos and just makes me want to upload more and more videos to youtube even though they are no/will never be monetizated but they do help me with engagement. Also it has helped me so much getting more confidence and actually knowing how the things i do look on camera lol. So thank you for your content
At 25 mins you gave the actual #1 thing ppl needed to know. As a person that has seen highs and lows on my personal streaming journey I've realized this...and realized the lack there of is damaging. Overall great value in the vid as always.
28:29 This is something I finally realized myself about a year ago. I kept stressing over "running out of time" to actually showcase myself because I kept convincing myself I wasn't good enough yet. I just needed more time. And then I finally just said, "screw it, I wanna show off!" and have really just started diving into my streaming, music producing, and art this past year.
When you mention that "The Future of Livestreaming" was your most successful video on the channel, I had to pause a second. Currently, at 61k views and counting, that is a great success. Even though I can see the number of views your videos have, I still always watch thinking that they are in the 100's of thousands. Your information, presentation, and delivery of that information is so professional and to the point. Been a long-time watcher and will continue to be. You tell the truth without worrying about sugar-coating it, and I believe that is the main thing always setting your videos higher up to those who watch for useful information and use your knowledge as tools for growth.
Love late videos call outs! I am a medieval historian and I have been streaming transcription of old documents - it's good fun and some people even watch me sometimes. Your videos have given me many ideas that I am looking forward to implement! Cheers
I watched the whole thing and as always it was great. I used to be that person: streaming to 0 people. The reason why I was doing this was because it was safe. Making my dream content is not. I've made significant changes to my life over the past few months (I haven't been streaming as well). This is what we could count as those other verticals. And now I'm working on content that (as I've tested out) resonates with people. I intend to make a broadcast and publish evergreen versions of it.
Loved this video. Watched all the way to the end. Great reminder at just how important it is to get yourself out there. Make Tiktoks, RUclips vids, RUclips shorts, post on twitter, etc. Any of this will give you a better chance of being seen than streaming to 0 viewers. You could make one or two videos in 6 hours vs streaming to 0 people! Keep it coming Dev I'm soaking it up.
The #1 hint I got from all those vids was to simulcast/multistream on as many platforms as possible. That got me a little community, because often people on platform X asked: "Are you on Y too?" But: Still small, not really interested in numbers - Love my actual job and would never quit for streaming. - but also not keen to play all the time by myself. Maybe because my motivation to stream was: 1. Playing (in the beginning) only offline/single player games, sometimes with my b/f, wasn't really entertaining. Or better: I always enjoyed stuff more with someone there, even if it was gaming on the couch and someone sitting there to chat. 2. Doing cosplays for myself during lockdown was... lame. 3. Watching so many streams that I just disliked. People spamming their affiliate stuff, always begging for subs and follows, torturing me and others with all kind of ads, while at the same time being boring or just sucked at the game. (My motivation to watch someone is mainly: Watching someone perform really good, to learn something, or watching someone who's entertaining, even if that person sucks at the game.) Or just being plain stupid. Always got the feeling, watching many (big) streamers: "Dude, I failed school. Twice. Because education sucks. Now I try to be Ninja!" And concerning women streaming: always wh*ring out/out for simp farming, so that in fact you are more a c*m girl than a streamer. Doesn't mean that I never sold out at any point and looked for the numbers, means: playing games I didn't enjoy (anymore). Because: Wow, you got three figures watching your stream! You are #1 in that category! You even get offers from agencies (I turned down.) or directly from the publisher of that game. But... the game is so lame! And THEN I got unmotivated and sat in my stream like sleep streaming. Think the best thing I did was to quit that and got back to stream for sometimes not even 10 people, but I ENJOY what I do. P. S.: One thing you didn't mention: Your numbers getting messed up by drops. When drops are active, in that category you are streaming, f*ck everything. Really. During drops numbers are worth nothing. If I want them, I look for a 1) stream just started 2) being no affiliate 3) mute and 4) minimize it in the background. Everytime I peaked over 100 - 400 viewers it was... during drops. And then you are sitting there, 400 people "watching" you - and hardly two or three actually interacting with you. That feels even more wrong than having 4 or 5 viewers not saying anything, because then you get really motivated and excited - and no one cares. At all. Because you are just running muted in the background. Best decision of my personal (mental health) streaming life: 1) f the numbers 2) f the game/content if it sucks. And ofc: 25:00 😅
8:30 Not only streamers on Twitch lack in growth. This goes especially to small RUclipsrs when they are having hard time to grow on RUclips. I saw RUclips decreasing the Subscribers of small RUclipsrs to adjust the algorithm.
That last point got me gooooood! I realized that hitting the button to stream games was procrastination instead of me working of music production! Changing my content this week!
It is a tough topic! A friend of mine tried live streaming and didn’t pursue it cause he didn’t have anyone to talk with. A big factor is to have a two way dialogue with someone in chat. For me, I personally enjoy talking to my friends on discord regardless of viewers. It’s important to keep a conversation rolling and keep things on going. Totally agree with your video!
Actually went back to watch your first video and noticed myself taking notes of some of the things you said. It was truly motivating and i think is still relevant to this day. Good job Devin!
You're a good dude who just wants to help people help themselves and have a different way of thinking. It's great to see that you really want people to be the best that they can be. We just need a little push and I think you're one of the people to be able to do that.
Just wanna make a rare comment from myself and let you know that I love your content. I'm a huge numbers guy in sports.. specifically baseball so following someone who likes crunching numbers and data and talks about it is always a good watch. Thanks for being you, Devin!
Thanks for calling me out, Devin. I stream to only 0-2 viewers because I’m lazy and possibly scared of seeing positive results in a loved space. I’m taking off the kid gloves now.
Watched the whole thing. Your content always relevant to the topic, which is relatively rare these days, people go on to talk about random stuff in their videos which are unrelated to the topic at hand. Your way of keeping the viewer engaged throughout the video is quite interesting too, which is definitely something to learn from.
I'm proud survivor of many Devins videos, I have fought the battles of +30min videos till the end and I went thru that war again today. Will not be my last one for sure, so better go prepare for the next one.
25 mins in, this is all great info. I think true patience and seeing the big picture are some of the biggest takeaways with this advice. Amazing video as always man
Thank you very much Devin for the video, I watched the whole video, even got past "minute 25". Yes, the transformation is visible, I watched your old videos and it's amazing how much you've grown in terms of broadcasting skills. I think the most important thing when you're creating a video or broadcasting is to tell a story, people love stories and if you hook them to that type of content you will never be without people that enjoy your content. Wierd off-topic but thanks to you I want to learn digital marketing now, so thank you for that :).
Call Out -"Got to this far" Definitely enjoy these videos and learning more of this side of industry. Excited for the next couple years and see where it all goes.
Really enjoyed your thoughts on this, it's both validating & insightful for those down moments you can get while being a 0 - 100 bracket streamer. Learned a lot, and really enjoy how you put your thoughts down!
I enjoy all of your content but this video was especially well done. adding explanation and solutions to many of the common pitfalls within content creation was insightful, As well as adding proper solutions with good rationale really solidified my perspective on a lot of these things. P.S great call to action at 25 minutes you got an engagement out of me. Cheers.
Responding to the callout :) but also wanted to say that I have had this mentality about wanting to stream but realising it's not the step I need to be taking for my success. I love streaming even when I could do it for only 5-25 viewers, but if I want to grow I need to make the evergreen stuff. You and a few others have taught me this so thank you for that. I think it's very hard for people to detach from CCV because tons of the big names on Twitch consistently use that metric as the point of a joke or as a means of measuring their own success vocally on stream. It winds up reinforcing that mentality in prospective streamers of it's "importance".
Holy smokes man.. I've always felt like I had a voice to be shared but never knew what to share. I found myself spewing out a ton of different videos but definitely lacked that "purpose." You talked about. Definitely going to sit back and really think about what it may be. Appreciate it man 👊
I had this playing while I did stuff for my GTA RP stuff that is getting ready to pick back up. I listen to your videos like a Podcast when I edit or do things!! Love the content and talks I really do learn and try to implement things! Made it to the 25 minute mark!
Solid advice and content here Devin. Your recent videos have been getting my gears spinning to make a change. Much love. Huge piece of advice for other casters: Watch your cast after the fact and be honest with yourself with how you feel about watching yourself. If you cringe at watching yourself, there's a reason why. With that said, some definitely need to step back from streaming and create more scripted content elsewhere. Me included. Once you hit stop streaming, that cast/vod is mostly dead.
This is my first video I've seen of you and I couldn't click away! Very informative and insightful. I started a channel this last year and am glad to pick up on your advice now. Will be spearheading many more of your videos with notepad in hand. I've done roofing for 15 years, own my own company and have a science fiction series. I love gaming and I love entertaining so I started this out of passion but as a father of two I definitely want to better my chances of success. I feel like this channel will definitely come forward as an asset so, thank you for that. Cheers, from N.B Canada
25 minute gang!!! I've put a few videos on RUclips, but they are basically rips from my stream with a little editing. As far as being boring...yeah, I could see that. I've been wresting with the idea of making more videos for RUclips, but I feel like I'd need to get a little bit better with editing and such before I feel like I'll be able to tackle that. Great video as always!
25 min CTA submitted. I have been watching your vods for a while and have been growing more and more all because of you teaching. People who don't take the time to listen don't know what they are missing
Appreciate the 25-minute mark where you told us to be someone interesting. Will certainly consider it. :P ...no but honestly this was good shit. I saw that /r/Twitch thread as well, and I'm glad you made this evergreen. It'll be much easier to point people this way instead of re-explaining it another 40 times. Thanks.
25:06 I always finish your videos through. I don't know how relevant they all are to me personally but I just really enjoy the way you break things down
The last point of this is definitely something to take on board. I was doing the daily streams on Twitch for a while and all it really does is hurt you. Since then, I've stepped away and focused more on RUclips, and even there I'm only putting out videos when I feel that I've made something worthwhile to watch, working on themes and ideas and editing all has made me much more motivated to create content. It's also allowed me to take some time and just throw together videos for my friends who are also content creators, which they all heavily appreciate. Learn something that you wanna learn and show yourself being human and learning it.
ironically enough, a video every day or 2 from Devin Nash IS the solution to motivating me to stream
^ THIS
Better yet. Do live comments on this video 😑
Ah pleasure to find you here good sir. I 100% agree
Evergreen content is the most important thing easily, most big streamers are big because they have content people can watch when they aren't live
Yeah. My most popular content is from 4 years ago and still getting the bulk of views/watch time. While it's nice to know that good content can (sometimes) stand the test of time, it's also kind of depressing being a shadow of my former self.
if you are an entertaining streamer, your streams will be evergreen content
The r/twitch sub is honestly the funniest non-advice circlejerk community out there. Thanks for these videos Devin :)
It’s honestly so funny how that sub never changes, even with the occasional based thread
@@LunaticJ well, it's so heavily moderated that it's almost impossible to type up a thread or a response that won't be filtered by auto-mod.
Circlejerk is the phrase I use also.
Agreed, though I still like to help out in there whenever possible/needed (and not the "You can do this
I honestly am only still subbed there as like an on demand cautionary tale for myself.
I love the idea "focus on livestream as a secondary market to your brand"
This makes PERFECT sense. live streaming for 8-12hrs in a day does little for you. you can spend that time writing scripts, recording videos, social media posts, networking, story boarding.....the list goes on. Have event based live streams and polished videos. I think this is the future.
I can't do those things that's why I stream 😆😆
*Be Someone Interesting*
This is best advise you can give to a streamer who's unmotivated.
no matter what I do people don't find me entertaining or interesting.... that's why I might quit.
@@sammoace Don't give up. I quit Summer of last year. In June of this year I decided to do things differently. Stick to it.
@@MaynesWorld well been streaming for two years now, did every strategy I can find and apparently I am the problem, I have no selling point and I can't be myself cuz I am a boring person to watch, not good in any game I'm a casual player and people are just being nice to me and that is it! I feel lost and I don't feel like continuing unless I am another person, I am trying to improve but I dunno if I can offer something different to the table or something unique for the people to watch! I am not meant to be a streamer what was I thinking of getting into this!
@@sammoace So, going by that metric...what about just chatting? Is there a topic you know inside and out? Maybe you aren't meant to be a gamer, but may have some knowledge that may be beneficial to people.
@@MaynesWorld again, like I said man I am a boring person and I don't know about if I have interesting knowledge to share with people, I can be a good friend and that is it. when I talk people don't listen, but I have thought about doing a podcast but I don't know man, the bar has been set high.
"Be someone interesting"
Sometimes it's not what you THINK you'd find interesting, but something that comes you naturally and with passion that goes overlooked when the time comes. Thanks Devin
25:06 still watching, thanks for the info 😎
25 min gang
25 min squad unite
25 minute gang, assemble
Let's go! ✌️
Here we are
The "I have to be an expert" mentality is something that caught me off guard, finally a channel with some good advice, thanks Devin!
Ive been stuck in the 5-10 viewer range aside from raids/hosts for about 2 years now so I really appreciate your opinions and ideas on keeping motivated. It definitely gets tough sometimes!
you need to put more time to working on becoming that guy and less time on not being that guy. streaming is not working on it btw
We are in the same boat. Just started live-streaming and since we have only 11 subscribers, it’s not big.. but we normally record and posts after editing. Last week was our first livestream and we have some work to do.. Keep it up! It is all worth it in the end!✌🏼
Ancillary and analogous are indeed words, although something being ancillary would mean it was connected to but supporting the first thing rather than completely separate. Maybe that's what you were going for though.
Thanks for this Devin. I made a 'failed start' at Twitch streaming and right now I'm rethinking how I want to do this. I think now I'm just going to focus on RUclips entirely including streaming here. I think another thing I found unmotivating is the editing process; I realise the need for evergreen content but editing is a means to an end for me and not something I can find passion in. Part of this is probably just getting through that early phase of learning where the process is more draining due to the fact that you're learning a new skill and videos take longer to make when you're basically a noob at the software involved. It's like I have the vision and there's probably a way to do it but my skills aren't adequate and that can be tiring. Your videos have reminded me that it's the right approach though even if I'm in a learning phase for now and it can only improve as I gain more ability.
Still here at 25:20 ^O^ Taking notes as always! Even though i get about 30-50 viewers at a time and 100 viewers on good days, i still know there's more to learn about streaming and how to leverage it. And that is, letting go of viewer counts. I'll try to do this and spread it to my friends.
Thank you so much for doing this!
You're gonna go far, i just took a gander at your channel and i love your grind, keep it up!
I see someoone I know...
Get it Chaldea, you have the knowledge and drive!
That's cool
"Documenting the journey" is something I feel Gary Vee would say too.
Cause he does! 😄
Thanks for the awesome content Devin!
Devin, your content really brought me out of a long rut. Thank you for providing the value you do.
These past 5 videos I've watched all the way through and can't even explain to you how helpful these are.
Your videos are interesting and incredibly insightful. The amount of knowledge you give away for free is absurd.
On a side note I'm literally inhaling these videos like ketamine. Your frequent uploads are very appreciated.
BuT i DoNt KnOw HoW tO bE iNtErEsTiNg!
Yes, Devin. I made it through to your callout. Man, I would love to sit and talk with you one day
me tooooo
You see this a ton with the Partner burnout where the hype of the partner push is gone along with the people. Love the content as always man!
Yep, still watching at the 25 minute mark, yay to being interesting!
The biggest issue I had with "learning" is watching someone large and thinking "this person doesn't know what they are talking about. The more I stream the more people will find me." What a fool I was. Learning from larger creators and thinking about what they say has been the biggest push for my growth in the past 6 months. When I started taking all of my other platforms besides twitch more seriously. I'd much rather make a video everyday stream 2 or 3 days a week and provide the helpful content I'm starting to make. Thank you Nash for guiding the people that really are listening and not just watching
There's something about the simplicity of these videos and these are literally so interesting/helpful!
The part about documenting the journey is so important and really resonated with me. I used to stream variety and wanted to commit to Overwatch but I was a low rated player. I decided to stop streaming for months and dedicate all my time to improving at the game because all the top streamers were high rated. When I finally got to GM I tried streaming again, lost all my viewers, and couldn't adapt to playing the game at a high level on stream while being entertaining. It was a disaster. Don't be me, listen to Devin and just make stuff now, even if you're scrub rated in the game you want to be known for.
yes devin, i have made it to 25min, i will try to become an interesting person
Those old strange ass personal development videos you first made on this channel really helped me out. They are some of the best on youtube and I have them on a playlist for myself to watch when im feeling down. Thanks for never deleting them devin.
Although I'm not a live streamer, I'm interested in how the things you speak about work and your videos are quite entertaining and give insight on these topics, thank you for doing what you do
These videos are awesome. I used to stream after school and ran into so many of the issues you bring up! It got depressing because I was sitting there doing the zero view streams with the occasional unsustainable 20 viewer break outs. I’ve actually been taking notes and digging deeper into who I am and what I’m good/bad at, how I portray myself, and what I can do to improve as a person! Currently in the military but I’ve always been super interested in gaming and content creation! Just wanted to say thankyou for this information! As you stated, this doesn’t only apply to youtubers and streamers!
As someone who has been a 10-20 viewer streamer for nearly 5 years, I'd love to have a conversation that being said you've nailed everything!
That last point is too accurate. I started out streaming with makeup tutorials--didn't get a lot of traction. I then transitioned to doing ASMR (and with that I mean non-sexualized ASMR that actually gives value to people) which helps me grow in a variety of ways not only in viewers, followers, etc. but it goes back to that I'm learning new skills and learning about a new community I was never a part of before (which therefore keeps me motivated). I'm just a small streamer still in the grand scheme of things but I can vouch for all of these tips. Thanks Devin!
25+ mins in.
"Its always better to make a youtube videos or some evergreen content"
GODDAMMIT YES!
I spent MONTHS building up on youtube before touching streaming off your advice. Its paid huge dividends and continues to even a couple months into streaming.
I'm so glad you have the advice out here so I can direct others to it.
Also as far as being entertaining, yes I'm found my niche and I LOVE it.
Horror, voice acting, this whole horror host thing I do is a huge passion that has reached folks and keeps them coming back.
I'm not a expert, I'm a entertainer that focuses on what I'm passionate about and I share that.
I learned this the hard way lmao. I'm slowly getting better at cc just by presenting videos instead of streaming. I totally get what you mean!
I found my niche too by being informative about my favorite game of all time! Mortal Kombat!
Wow that "I'm not an expert I am just an entertainer focused on what I am passionate about fits and strikes me very well kabby that was my very well put and elquient way to put it. I made the mistake of streaming first but hey I was able to change my course to RUclips cuz I feel progression in there even if it's slow because slow is better than nothing imo
You've got dope content. Love the creepy pastas
I acctually watch all of your videos fully from first to last SECOND. They are super helpfull for streaming as well as advice for live which is super cool. Keep up the good work and i can't wait to see your next video :)
I might be one of a miniscule percentage, but I watch over 90-95% of every sinle video I click on. To the point that I will go back and rewatch anything I missed, didn't understand, or lost my train of thought during.
I feel like most people do with RUclips what I do with songs, listen until satisfied, switch, repeat. See ya at 32:20 when I get there!
honestly I'm mostly the same, if I'm interested in a video I'll watch the whole thing through, hell, even if it's a thing I know absolutely nothing of and don't care at all, if it's interesting, I'll watch it all the way through
Yes I am still watching at the 25 minute mark.
These past few videos Devin have truly given me an entire new mindset not only around content but also other things like my current education and just daily organization as well. Really do appreciate it man
*Be someone interesting*
Best advice that I've heard! This is the piece I've been missing from the puzzle. With this advice I am going to be unstoppable!
For real though, great video Devin! I love the content that you put out. It has helped me so much!
"Be Someone Interesting"
Kind of savage but very true.
Great video.
If you want to ONLY be a streamer it will be like fishing lol...somedays you'll catch a some views(fish) some days you won't.
If you want to be just a streamer it would probably be easier to time travel back 9 years than it would be to get to 1k from 0 viewers within the next year.
@@MrJonne2000 if you do anything for 9 years I would hope you get some recognition lol
I've been in a slump lately where I went from being happy around 50 viewers down to feeling like I tanked below 19 viewers. Pretty sure though that my attitude hasn't helped it either. Dealing with a separation and trying to be a responsible adult and showing my kids that a split doesn't have to be a war. Great video as always Devin, truly do appreciate the solid business advice and clear view on how the industry works.
"I don't sell a course"
Devin's definitely easter egging us. Incoming course... OR AT LEAST I HOPE.
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I made it to the part where you said comment if I made it to the part. :)
That line "I could live a hundred lifetimes and not get bored" is the truest shit. Any time I hear someone complain about being bored I just hear someone taking life for granted.
Thank you for the 25 minute video to only end on "be someone very interesting." Very very helpful Devin WOW A+ this is the reason I subscribe!!
appreciate you calling us out at the end for still watching LOL your video came highly recommended by a friend and was full of so many good thoughts to try to focus on and think about better. thank you for taking the time to make videos like these.
This video was the culmination of like everything I’ve been learning from you over the past year or so. Seriously has completely changed the way I create content. Such enormous value! Thank you so much for making this video! One of my top favorites of yours.
Made it all the way through! Was going to comment at 25 mins but didn't want to be distracted. Thank you for the analysis and solutions! Great talk as always.
I love the "make something for another platform" part. I'll have to do this once I start streaming again when my voice recovers. At least I can feed my RUclips channel and grow/learn this way in various ways. ^^
I've really enjoyed the prevailing narrative the past few videos of "provide something of value". Here it is, "Be someone interesting". The last video was about selling yourself in a pitch. It's making me reflect on the ways I interact with the world. What value do I add in each scenario. Figure it out and then learn how to present that value in a way others find attractive. And if there isn't enough value learn how to add it. As I'm writing this I'm realizing it sounds a lot like treating myself as a product I am marketing to the world. I am not a content creator but I think that mindset can have positive applications in my life. Be it personal or professional relationships.
Thanks for making me think, Devin. Great vid.
The last bit of knowledge that you gave about finding something to be passionate about, or stay a boring potato. That one hit different. Because you hear all the time from everyone "Make content elsewhere.".. "Diversify." Not to say that you saying it is bad; because it's just another voice telling us the truth; but I needed to hear that. The truth, and that apart from the opinion 10 or so lurking accounts, I'm a potato. I'd rather be hashbrowns if nothing else. At least those are desirable.
Also your future of streaming video was mind boggling-ly awesome. Loved every second.
Before watching, this is the best thumbnail+title choice you've made so far. It was a great idea removing the person out of it as sometimes it can add an unneeded layer of vagueness (for now it's the best way I can describe it). This way it's simple enough, easily relatable and gives just the right amount of information to be intriguing, leaving the viewer curious to check the actual content. I hope you watched the video from Veritasium about thumbnails, it's one of my favorite ones of all time :)
Be someone interesting is actually great advice, I always watch the whole video
Thanks for the video Devin! I watch always to the end!
23:10 For me personally when I follow someone it means I enjoyed something about the stream and want to come back to it another time.
seriously a amazing amount of points that really show you how much you can improve on not just streaming but your entire social account
your videos always help me to get my mind clear. I started uploading videos to youtube and was just so surprised by all the support i never expected getting, specially because i got like a 30-40 viewers on twitch and been streaming for +1year. And i can see people coming to my channel from the youtube videos and just makes me want to upload more and more videos to youtube even though they are no/will never be monetizated but they do help me with engagement. Also it has helped me so much getting more confidence and actually knowing how the things i do look on camera lol. So thank you for your content
At 25 mins you gave the actual #1 thing ppl needed to know. As a person that has seen highs and lows on my personal streaming journey I've realized this...and realized the lack there of is damaging. Overall great value in the vid as always.
28:29 This is something I finally realized myself about a year ago. I kept stressing over "running out of time" to actually showcase myself because I kept convincing myself I wasn't good enough yet. I just needed more time. And then I finally just said, "screw it, I wanna show off!" and have really just started diving into my streaming, music producing, and art this past year.
When you mention that "The Future of Livestreaming" was your most successful video on the channel, I had to pause a second. Currently, at 61k views and counting, that is a great success. Even though I can see the number of views your videos have, I still always watch thinking that they are in the 100's of thousands. Your information, presentation, and delivery of that information is so professional and to the point. Been a long-time watcher and will continue to be. You tell the truth without worrying about sugar-coating it, and I believe that is the main thing always setting your videos higher up to those who watch for useful information and use your knowledge as tools for growth.
Love late videos call outs!
I am a medieval historian and I have been streaming transcription of old documents - it's good fun and some people even watch me sometimes.
Your videos have given me many ideas that I am looking forward to implement! Cheers
I watched the whole thing and as always it was great.
I used to be that person: streaming to 0 people. The reason why I was doing this was because it was safe. Making my dream content is not. I've made significant changes to my life over the past few months (I haven't been streaming as well). This is what we could count as those other verticals.
And now I'm working on content that (as I've tested out) resonates with people. I intend to make a broadcast and publish evergreen versions of it.
Loved this video. Watched all the way to the end. Great reminder at just how important it is to get yourself out there. Make Tiktoks, RUclips vids, RUclips shorts, post on twitter, etc. Any of this will give you a better chance of being seen than streaming to 0 viewers. You could make one or two videos in 6 hours vs streaming to 0 people! Keep it coming Dev I'm soaking it up.
The #1 hint I got from all those vids was to simulcast/multistream on as many platforms as possible. That got me a little community, because often people on platform X asked: "Are you on Y too?"
But: Still small, not really interested in numbers - Love my actual job and would never quit for streaming. - but also not keen to play all the time by myself. Maybe because my motivation to stream was:
1. Playing (in the beginning) only offline/single player games, sometimes with my b/f, wasn't really entertaining. Or better: I always enjoyed stuff more with someone there, even if it was gaming on the couch and someone sitting there to chat.
2. Doing cosplays for myself during lockdown was... lame.
3. Watching so many streams that I just disliked. People spamming their affiliate stuff, always begging for subs and follows, torturing me and others with all kind of ads, while at the same time being boring or just sucked at the game. (My motivation to watch someone is mainly: Watching someone perform really good, to learn something, or watching someone who's entertaining, even if that person sucks at the game.) Or just being plain stupid. Always got the feeling, watching many (big) streamers: "Dude, I failed school. Twice. Because education sucks. Now I try to be Ninja!" And concerning women streaming: always wh*ring out/out for simp farming, so that in fact you are more a c*m girl than a streamer.
Doesn't mean that I never sold out at any point and looked for the numbers, means: playing games I didn't enjoy (anymore). Because: Wow, you got three figures watching your stream! You are #1 in that category! You even get offers from agencies (I turned down.) or directly from the publisher of that game. But... the game is so lame! And THEN I got unmotivated and sat in my stream like sleep streaming. Think the best thing I did was to quit that and got back to stream for sometimes not even 10 people, but I ENJOY what I do.
P. S.: One thing you didn't mention: Your numbers getting messed up by drops. When drops are active, in that category you are streaming, f*ck everything. Really. During drops numbers are worth nothing. If I want them, I look for a 1) stream just started 2) being no affiliate 3) mute and 4) minimize it in the background. Everytime I peaked over 100 - 400 viewers it was... during drops. And then you are sitting there, 400 people "watching" you - and hardly two or three actually interacting with you. That feels even more wrong than having 4 or 5 viewers not saying anything, because then you get really motivated and excited - and no one cares. At all. Because you are just running muted in the background.
Best decision of my personal (mental health) streaming life: 1) f the numbers 2) f the game/content if it sucks.
And ofc: 25:00 😅
8:30 Not only streamers on Twitch lack in growth. This goes especially to small RUclipsrs when they are having hard time to grow on RUclips. I saw RUclips decreasing the Subscribers of small RUclipsrs to adjust the algorithm.
That last point got me gooooood! I realized that hitting the button to stream games was procrastination instead of me working of music production! Changing my content this week!
It is a tough topic! A friend of mine tried live streaming and didn’t pursue it cause he didn’t have anyone to talk with. A big factor is to have a two way dialogue with someone in chat. For me, I personally enjoy talking to my friends on discord regardless of viewers. It’s important to keep a conversation rolling and keep things on going. Totally agree with your video!
Actually went back to watch your first video and noticed myself taking notes of some of the things you said. It was truly motivating and i think is still relevant to this day. Good job Devin!
Made it through man. Good content and definitely some points to think about.
I always finish the vids cause I love the way your mind works been watching for around 1 year
Watched the whole video, greatly informational, and, ironically, motivational stuff. Thanks Devin!
You're a good dude who just wants to help people help themselves and have a different way of thinking. It's great to see that you really want people to be the best that they can be. We just need a little push and I think you're one of the people to be able to do that.
Just wanna make a rare comment from myself and let you know that I love your content. I'm a huge numbers guy in sports.. specifically baseball so following someone who likes crunching numbers and data and talks about it is always a good watch. Thanks for being you, Devin!
It's amazing to see how giddy Devin gets when he makes it to 25+ minutes in a single shot with no edits. He's the master of the one shot recordings.
Thanks for calling me out, Devin. I stream to only 0-2 viewers because I’m lazy and possibly scared of seeing positive results in a loved space. I’m taking off the kid gloves now.
Watched the whole thing. Your content always relevant to the topic, which is relatively rare these days, people go on to talk about random stuff in their videos which are unrelated to the topic at hand. Your way of keeping the viewer engaged throughout the video is quite interesting too, which is definitely something to learn from.
Stumbled across this video for the 2nd time, & it's so REFRESHING to watch again when you are feeling a slump incoming! Absolutely LOVE it!
Great video Devin, thanks for the upload!
I'm proud survivor of many Devins videos, I have fought the battles of +30min videos till the end and I went thru that war again today. Will not be my last one for sure, so better go prepare for the next one.
I wasn't feeling unmotivated, but more so unfocused. This has been part of the inspiration I needed. Thank you.
25 mins in, this is all great info. I think true patience and seeing the big picture are some of the biggest takeaways with this advice. Amazing video as always man
Thank you very much Devin for the video, I watched the whole video, even got past "minute 25". Yes, the transformation is visible, I watched your old videos and it's amazing how much you've grown in terms of broadcasting skills.
I think the most important thing when you're creating a video or broadcasting is to tell a story, people love stories and if you hook them to that type of content you will never be without people that enjoy your content.
Wierd off-topic but thanks to you I want to learn digital marketing now, so thank you for that :).
You're killing it with the videos lately!
Great video, love the perspective and insight, as always!
Call Out -"Got to this far"
Definitely enjoy these videos and learning more of this side of industry. Excited for the next couple years and see where it all goes.
Really enjoyed your thoughts on this, it's both validating & insightful for those down moments you can get while being a 0 - 100 bracket streamer. Learned a lot, and really enjoy how you put your thoughts down!
I enjoy all of your content but this video was especially well done.
adding explanation and solutions to many of the common pitfalls within content creation was insightful,
As well as adding proper solutions with good rationale really solidified my perspective on a lot of these things.
P.S great call to action at 25 minutes you got an engagement out of me.
Cheers.
For sure still watching the video and learning while taking notes!
Responding to the callout :) but also wanted to say that I have had this mentality about wanting to stream but realising it's not the step I need to be taking for my success. I love streaming even when I could do it for only 5-25 viewers, but if I want to grow I need to make the evergreen stuff. You and a few others have taught me this so thank you for that. I think it's very hard for people to detach from CCV because tons of the big names on Twitch consistently use that metric as the point of a joke or as a means of measuring their own success vocally on stream. It winds up reinforcing that mentality in prospective streamers of it's "importance".
Holy smokes man..
I've always felt like I had a voice to be shared but never knew what to share. I found myself spewing out a ton of different videos but definitely lacked that "purpose." You talked about. Definitely going to sit back and really think about what it may be. Appreciate it man 👊
I had this playing while I did stuff for my GTA RP stuff that is getting ready to pick back up. I listen to your videos like a Podcast when I edit or do things!! Love the content and talks I really do learn and try to implement things! Made it to the 25 minute mark!
I watch these videos the whole way through. Love content like this.
Thanks again Devin you rock!
Solid advice and content here Devin. Your recent videos have been getting my gears spinning to make a change. Much love.
Huge piece of advice for other casters: Watch your cast after the fact and be honest with yourself with how you feel about watching yourself. If you cringe at watching yourself, there's a reason why.
With that said, some definitely need to step back from streaming and create more scripted content elsewhere. Me included. Once you hit stop streaming, that cast/vod is mostly dead.
Thanks for the great video Devin, I was engaged from 0.00 - 32:22 it's a wild ride out there.
This is my first video I've seen of you and I couldn't click away! Very informative and insightful. I started a channel this last year and am glad to pick up on your advice now. Will be spearheading many more of your videos with notepad in hand.
I've done roofing for 15 years, own my own company and have a science fiction series. I love gaming and I love entertaining so I started this out of passion but as a father of two I definitely want to better my chances of success. I feel like this channel will definitely come forward as an asset so, thank you for that.
Cheers,
from
N.B Canada
25 minute gang!!!
I've put a few videos on RUclips, but they are basically rips from my stream with a little editing.
As far as being boring...yeah, I could see that. I've been wresting with the idea of making more videos for RUclips, but I feel like I'd need to get a little bit better with editing and such before I feel like I'll be able to tackle that.
Great video as always!
25 min CTA submitted. I have been watching your vods for a while and have been growing more and more all because of you teaching. People who don't take the time to listen don't know what they are missing
Love the videos you’ve been putting out I don’t know when I’ll ever use some of this knowledge but imma keep watching everything
Appreciate the 25-minute mark where you told us to be someone interesting. Will certainly consider it. :P
...no but honestly this was good shit. I saw that /r/Twitch thread as well, and I'm glad you made this evergreen. It'll be much easier to point people this way instead of re-explaining it another 40 times. Thanks.
25 Minutes in, and I'm still getting amazing Value, thanks Devin haha :D
Thanks devin, watched the entire thing. All your points really resonate with me. Keep doing what you're doing!
25:06 I always finish your videos through. I don't know how relevant they all are to me personally but I just really enjoy the way you break things down
Honestly. This video has helped me realize. I just gotta work harder and keep going. Figure out what makes me unique. Thanks Devin.
dude i always watch your videos from start to finish, too much value
The last point of this is definitely something to take on board.
I was doing the daily streams on Twitch for a while and all it really does is hurt you. Since then, I've stepped away and focused more on RUclips, and even there I'm only putting out videos when I feel that I've made something worthwhile to watch, working on themes and ideas and editing all has made me much more motivated to create content.
It's also allowed me to take some time and just throw together videos for my friends who are also content creators, which they all heavily appreciate.
Learn something that you wanna learn and show yourself being human and learning it.
This was a great video with some very good information. Thanks for taking the time to make this my dude. Gonna work on being someone interesting 😎
Always get to the end mate. Perfect example of providing value!!