Yuki Haruto I'll be honest, I wanted to see Yahtzee's Nintendo Switch Review to see if he would make a reference to his Color Splash Review in which called the then newly revealed Switch the NX... But no such joke occurred during the beginning of the video.
Yeah, it's a bit of a hidden gem I think. The game is pretty incredible if you like melancholy atmospheres, slower but more strategic combat, and heavy exploration. And if he thinks the difficulty curves down he clearly hasn't ever fought Failed Champion or The Radiance. Or the more recent Nightmare King Grimm. Biggest thing though, I can't believe how they managed to make a giant cave have so many aesthetically unique areas.
@@Dliciousization I think the difficulty curve changes, going up over time as a whole but doing down against individual enemies. Early on it isn't that hard because enemies just don't have that many ways to hurt you besides contact damage (plus you have plenty of windows for healing and the enemies have small hitboxes). Hell, I don't think I died early on at all. Lategame you can just tank or move past most of what would otherwise hurt you. Dash does make fights easier, as do a number of charm pickups. At the same time, enemies also start getting stronger, some can deal double damage and some have some nasty tricks up their sleeves. Later on enemies get tougher and the dash becomes a thing you need. Shade Dash allows them to start pitting you against *real* fights, like NKG, the Radiance, and the Godhome bonus bosses. (It also helps in the Colosseum of Fools...)
While Hollow Knight is of the cutsey style, it more than makes up for the atmosphere. I mean, holy dicks wrapped in sandpaper, the Ancient Basin, Abyss, and Deepnest are so well made, that with a limited palette, sound and music alone, can create very oppressing and rather foreboding experiences.
I got a letter. The name on the envelope said 'Silent Hill 2'. A Japanese horror game's name... It's ridiculous, couldn't possibly be true... That's what I keep telling myself... Surely a Japanese horror game can't appeal to Yahtzee.
Obadiah Fraiser And Undertale, Doom, Psychonauts, Bioshock, Metroid Prime, Titanfall 2, Spec Ops: The Line, Fantasy World Dizzy, Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door, Wind Waker, EarthBound, Bioshock Infinite, Papers Please, etc. etc...
Other things I like from Hollow Knight that are in Dark Souls but weren't mentioned: enemy variety, telegraphed attacks, bosses that teach you in phase 1 then build on it in phase 2, hidden areas, lack of direction given to you by the game leading to exploration.
While I think that HK is a good game, the whole 'encouraging exploration' thing is only a plus if the game world itself is very interesting. Even then, monotony can set in if you have to keep backtracking over the same areas and it can kill any atmosphere the game has going for it.
@@Bragglord Even though the game has similarities to DS it's still an entirely different genre of game. It's a mertoidvania which means a lot of exploration and backtracking. Also I find it hard to describe Hollow Knights exploration dull when half of the abilitys and most of the areas and bosses can be skipped or barley explored to beat the game. So that means discovering many different enemies, bosses, power ups, and entirely different play styles in charms is all reward for exploration.
As soon as I see a game I like (Dead Cells in this case) in the title of his videos, I think "Can't wait for him to trash talk the game into oblivion." Still love his content, though :)
Shade cloak has a much longer cooldown than a dodge roll and it can't be used to 100% avoid everything. The length of the i-frame duration is pretty short. It really isn't a dodge roll whatsoever. We should all just accept the fact that the entire video is a joke. Team Cherry's main inspiration wasn't from Dark Souls either. Hell, the devs haven't even played any game to completion. So to say the game is DS inspired is ignorant to say the least.
@@jackgarcia5926 Whether they wanted it or not, the two games feel very similar. Sure, there are major differences, it's not like Hollow Knight is a ripoff of Dark Souls, but the grim and lonely atmosphere, the way the story is told, the death mechanic, the themes of decay and struggling against the inescapable entropy, the abundance of side paths and optionnal areas, the insistance on imposing, dangerous bosses that you have to learn the pattern of the get past and of course, the difficulty... All of that adds up to make the two games feel very close and I doubt Hollow Knight would have looked the same if Dark Souls didn't exist. It's definitly an inspiration. And, to make this clear, I'm aware that none of the elements I just listed are unique to Dark Souls. But when you add them all together, you get something that looks like a Souls game. Also, saying HK isn't like DS because it's a metroidvania forgets that DS is almost a metroidvania and was certainly inspired by the genre mixed with RPGs. The sprawling open-world with an abundance of side paths that you have to explore and backtrack through once you unlocked new areas is not something From Software invented.
The only real gameplay similarity is recollecting your "souls" (geo) when you die. And I guess the general boss-centric thing, and the all-connected map. Those seem more general features rather than Dark Souls specific.
I like Dead Cells. I might be addicted to Dead Cells. I've put in a hundred hours on Dead Cells, and I'm never getting them back. BRB, still have to get the blueprint for the automatic crossbow from the Forgotten Sepulchre.
@@xenogorwraithblade2538 Got both, and the barrier shield, if that's rare. And I didnt use hunter grenade to get it. Is the infinite bow rare? Thought it was mocking me when it said "the last shot is critical", until i used it.
The important question here is "so you have 100 hours in the game, how many times have you actually finished it, and how many boss cells are you on?" As i've finished it about 10 times, and have a mere 2 boss cells after more like 200 hours...
That's why you should have district heating instead. In fact this is the reason Denmark does so well on the pro level. We have district heating so no one is distracted by their water heater because they don't have one.
Hero Of Rhyme I dunno. TEiN has even more cheap difficulty than Hollow Knight and Dead Cells combined. Being so monstrously hard may detract some fans.
Honestly, Hollow Knight is a much more enjoyable and longer experience. I know that it is simply your opinion but I don't think you would be saying it has as much quality if you actually 100%'ed HK. He is actually right to an extent. Cuphead does seem like dogshit when compared to Hollow Knight. Not saying Cuphead is bad, it's an 8/10 in my book but HK managed to exceed normal expectations and ended up being a near perfect 10/10 experience. There are some minor nitpicky problems so I would probably just put HK at a solid 9/10. The world and how it was just perfectly laid out just resonated with me so well. The story hidden in the world isn't even a cliche one either. Not going to say much to avoid any spoilers but as an overall package the game is amazing.
Wait 1 sec... Shoving a lego building up his little brother's arse... -Goes to Breath of the Wild Review Ubisoft: "Sometimes at Night I take a little model of a tower and shove it (up my ass)" So, If i'm getting this right, yahtzee was ubisoft's older, abusive brother. Yahtzee tormented his brother with lego ass-towers for breaking his little lego house. Eventually, ubisoft grew fond of having a tower shoved up his rear, and, combining this with his love of the old elder scrolls games, decided to spread his love for towers through the medium of sandbox games. Yahtzee, after becoming a game critic, decided both to torment his brother and do his job by ripping every game ubisoft ever created a new asshole. Not sure if this has left joke territory and gone into fancfic territory, but i'll roll with it.
3:27 Yeah, the difficulty takes a drop after you get the dash, then your overconfident ass goes into the White Palace, Nightmare King Grimm and Radiance fights before you are repeatedly kerbstomped. Then, while you're crying tears of pure salt and replaced the controller for the third time, the game invites you to check out this delicious little lore tidbit behind a platforming challenge called "The Path of Pain", which it turns out is very, very accurately named. I guess the point I'm making is that sure, the difficult feels like it drops as you progress through the game and yes, you can get the bad ending without too much hassle but if you really want to see everything Hollow Knight has to offer then that difficulty curve is going to start going very steeply upwards until it resembles a wall. A wall covered in circular saw blades.....
Yea I'm wondering why he thinks the dash was a power spike... that's like, the very beginning of the game. I know he has a lot of reviews to do, but it does seem like he barely scratches the surface before reviewing them.
Yeah. The normal enemies maybe cheesed by dash but it doesn't work on boses. The different builds is a lot more fun in HK than DS. Cause you really have to think of how to allocate you slots. And besides hollow knight's small enemies still do the same damage which makes it brutal if youre not careful.
So... Yahtzee has ascended to a critic demonic deity who enjoys the suffering of the whole videogame comunnity complete with echoey voice. Well that explains the Chzo Mythos. He was envisioning the world's future under his rule.
It is slightly telling how much suicide comes up in his early work. What with the ending puzzle in Trilby's notes, and the whole thing with the High Ones in whatever that space game was called, or that fucking random corpse just hanging off a tree for no reason in The Trials of Odysseus Kent. I suspect that Yahtzee badly wanted to kill himself, at least up until he figured out what a vagina is at age 30.
I could definitely see Yahtzee pulling an Ayreon-esque Electric Castle Experiment; putting a bunch of dishevelled gamers through a gauntlet of his reviews to harvest their emotions.
Hollow knight is a true masterpiece.You can't listen someone talk about it or watch a trailer or a gameplay about it.You can't know without playing it.It's a spectacular experience.
To be fair, the undertail fanbase is horrible. Hollow knight is more like a sleeping hit, its a very good metroidvania. Same thing with salt and sanctuary.
As much as I want to go down the well worn, heavily opinionated tangent of "blah blah blah, u didn't like a game I liked so you I hate you" Having lately gone off of the high of loving something very much and now being able to coherently listen to criticism of it, I would honestly much rather neutrally hear your reasoning for disliking the game.
+Stock090, Maybe it's just me, but I really don't get why people hate on fanbases. The Undertale, FNAF, Sonic and Minecraft fanbases are nowhere close to the like of Steven Universe, where actually aggressive things happen, and the hate of that fanbase is actually justifiable. It just seems to me like people wasting their time of day hating on people for being passionate about something on the internetz. You don't see people lamenting the fanbase of Dark Souls, but probably because it's the better accepted fanbase. Undertale is a good game. The story is good until up until the last bit of the normal run, where it becomes a cheese-fest and the music becomes insufferable (Hopes and Dreams *shudder*), but you can understand why people love it.
Thankfully that's as optional a part as it can be :) I really like when games includes these things, it usually forces you to try out a lot of tactics you haven't tried before. That being said I can understand people complaining about the white palace platforming "mini game" sequence, but I actually didn't mind it much, maybe because I used hiveblood :P That's optional as well, but it breaks with what you've been doing all game AND is required for beating the "true final boss".
Michael Rasmussen | No, Arena of Fools is not optional because every part of the game must be played because it is such a great game. Atleast in my eyes, I HAVE to beat it.
Especially given that a lot of the story is told in a fairly passive way from the remains of areas and brief notes rather like Dark Souls. Ya know along with being a once thriving Kingdom ravaged by plague.
I would say that bouth games right now are masterpieces. Dead cells for me was first ENJABLE rouge lite/like for me and i just bought it after i finshed 100% achivements for Hollow Knight and you know THEY ADDED PURE NAIL INTO Dead Cells and plays same as in Hollow knight.
I wish he would've just given this the usual double bill treatment. Hollow Knight tends to evoke elements of the Souls gameplay but clearly has it's own direction it wanted to take in terms of the gameplay and story and to merely compare the points is a very apples and oranges thing to do when on it's own it stands perfectly well to someone who had never played Dark Souls. I dunno I'm just biased because I liked the game and am a sucker for people who understand that sprites were supposed to evolve to be hand drawn and not mire in the pixel purgatory.
Dead Cells takes on the pixelart exceedingly well. It's a filter over 3D (which at the time of production wasn't popular, but did gain some attention as it progressed) which makes the whole art seem far more lifelike and fluid than other pixelart games (such as Catacomb Kids). The background/foreground art in Dead Cells is by far the most gorgeous thing I have seen in a 2D game, even surpassing Hollow Knight in its gloomy, toned-down atmosphere, akin to that of Darkest Dungeon. Plus, it's variety. Sprites can evolve into hand drawn or grow into a beautiful fluid thing. Or even stay the same and still prove itself well made and fitting (TBOI, Risk of Rain). Variety is the spice of life.
I know I’m late but I just wanted to point out that’s completely not how art develops. Styles don’t die as the period ends or new technology is available. If it looks good, it doesn’t matter if there’s a more technologically complex style.
Hollow Knight is like Dark Souls in the sense that it has rest points and is difficult and that's about it really. Dead Cells is somehow even less like Dark Souls. It has big dudes in armor..I guess? Well you play as an undead presumably so I suppose that also counts.
4:00 That *does* work really well. Like "oh hell, I just accidentally fell into Deepnest. Everything is spiders. The walls are spiders. The food is spiders. My face is spiders. Help. Oh what I would do for a bug with a piece of paper right about now to help me find the way out of this hellhole."
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I read it in Yahtzee's voice and got quite amused. Good job, dear sir.
Hollow Knight is a wonderful experience. The world they built is just mystical, and I love the feel of it. The gameplay is also solid. Dead Cells (which I'm currently playing). I dunno, I like the fighting, I like the way you progress in theory, but there just isn't enough variation to make doing all those same levels over and over a rewarding experience. After a dozen or so runs, that first floor (and the few after that with time) become very boring, and it just makes you want to stop. The random layouts mean nothing most of the time because there's little difference. A different amount of upgrades, same ole' shops. It's all the same to your mind. If they fill it out a little bit (like you're supposed to in ea). Add more enemies and more variation, it could be a pretty good game.
Azurite I originally agreed with you but I began to wonder. Is Hollow Knight a Souls-like Metroidvania or did Dark Souls just take several elements from Metroidvanias that nobody saw? The looping back around and backtracking of Dark Souls is quite similar to Metroidvanias right? Of course Dark Souls using stamina is quite unique though.
I guess what Hollow Knight borrowed from Dark Souls is mostly the vast, grandiose world that once reach a golden age but is now dying of a slow, silent and drown out death, where you meet various characters each having their own adventure parralel to you and who have to struggle with not giving up hope and surrounding themselves to the madness that reak throughout this land's very own air. Not so much the various Metroidvanias elements that aren't so much associated with Dark Souls since they've been pretty much integrated to the gaming landscape by now. Also, when you die, you have to go back to the place you died in order to recover your currencies, and if you die before, you lose them forever, and the ennemies are mostly undead, hollowed version of the mens they once were.
Bingo, the Dark Souls comparison is mostly present in the atmosphere. The actual game mechanics, not so much. But there's quite a bit more to a game than just the gameplay.
Dead cells has changed a lot since this came out, it's much more fair throughout the run, and they also added kill without getting hit doors for exploration, as well as the time doors. I'd like to see a how you like the new updates because 1.9 is a blast (I know 2.0.1 is out but I dont have a PC)
This was the first video I've watched of yours and was disappointed with what you said about Hollow Knight, but then I watched your other videos and realized that you must really like the game to not tear into it like the others
I honestly never got any Dark Souls vibes from Dead Cells. It's got hard combat, yes, and you can dodge roll, but there's so much more energy to it and the bleankness has such a goofy humor to it that it never gives me anything close to the mournful, elegiac feeling of Dark Souls. Which is not to say that it's not EFFECTIVE gallows humor. The guy executed by firing squad made me laugh like a crazy person, and even the loading screen notes tended to get a chuckle out of me, but it never gave me the sense that it was really trying for any of the same things that Dark Souls had.
I guess dark souls was split into two games. Frustration and gameplay challenge in Dead Cells, atmosphere and world building in Hollow Knight. Quite like the concept, that way you can pick and choose which parts of dark souls you like more. I prefer Dead Cells though, the weapons just feel so nice and the movement is very responsive.
Weird. I never would have expected Yahtzee to "review" these two games by flatly comparing them to Dark Souls, rather than discussing each one's status as an individual game. I thought he hated that "game journalists saying that everything is Dark Souls" trend.
I'm pretty sure youre the human personification of the endless litany my ADD little brain supplies me with 24/7....it's a bit comforting realizing I'm not the only one lol
Dead Cells: You are a moss-monster running around in a corpse killing zombies usually with fire but not always while looking for blue-prints that never drop when you want them to but always do when you turn the corner and die anyways losing them and having to recollect them You also take dead cells from enemies to get new items Most shields suck and firebrand is amazing
Shields are amazing once you can time them right. They are the best anti-boss weapon (and vs many enemies that does huge ammouns of DMG, like the pirate)
Yahtzee: **implies there's no perma-death in Hollow Knight** Me: **has soul steel mode flashbacks** I have good news for you, Yahtzee. And it comes with fucking steam achievements
Hollow Knight gets insanely hard, depending on how far you actually want to go. I suppose if you stop at the "end" of the story, it's not THAT hard. But then there are the Dream versions of all the bosses. Plus the Pantheon. Plus Path of Pain. Plus the Radiance. It really ramps up beyond my capability.
Two totally different games, but sure let's lump them together and review them together. I love your channel but you should have just reviewed them separately. BTW I've seen all your videos! Keep killing it!
Not to mention, the HK devs have made it clear that Dark Souls wasn't a direct influence, though perhaps Yahtzee didn't have this info when he made this vid.
Dead Cells, a year later, seems to have kicked things up a notch and finally gotten out of early access. Having only picked it up recently, there's definitely permanent progression if you can cash it all in without getting lopped into pieces.
Both great. Buuut, I prefer Dead Cells. Because now even I can play and enjoy Dark Souls.. Sorta. They aren't really comparable in my mind, but great video nonetheless. I like you've been covering more indie titles of recent.
Wait- what!? Yahtzee, how have you gone over Hollow Knight and Dead Cells, but not GUNGEON? I mean, it really surprised me that you made a review of overly difficult indie-roguelike games without mentioning Enter the Gungeon. It was perfect for this video...
"Man, this game is quite difficult........ ROUGELIKE METROIDVANIA DARK SOULS SOULSLIKE ROGUEVANIA ROGUELITE AHHHHH IS THIS GAME IN THIRD PERSON, HAVE METHODICAL COMBAT, MAKES YOU CONSUME STAMINA WITH EVERY MOVE, AND HAVE NO MAP? NO? DO YOU DROP YOUR SHIT WHEN YOU DIE? THEN ITS DARK SOULS BOYS"
Toki Wo Tomato Considering stamina management is about the only thing that differentiates Dark Souls from other Hack'n'slah games, I wouldn't count the combat as THE defining aspect of the game.
"an important part of the Dark Souls formula is that the character has to gross us out a bit" Yahtzee, that was a pretty poor piece of commentary. I don't want games retreading the decisions of previous similar titles and neither do you. As someone who constantly talks about games doing the same thing over and over again, I'm surprised how much this part completely overlooks that.
John Green I think he will stop comparing every indie game to dark souls when every indie game stops being dark souls. But I am okay with that cause I like dark souls.
Hollow Knight has its charm, and maybe I'm too much of a long-session player to get the most out of it, but I got really, really sick of the amount of metaphorical brick walls in it that are only vulnerable to the painful headbutt maneuver. That, and the infinite backtracking to find whatever place I needed to go next. Oh, and the bosses who flit about the screen with their homing stomp-slam moves, while the player character floaty-jumps like a mario full of helium with a massive bullseye painted on its forehead.
Honestly though I'm getting sick of everything being compared to dark souls. Can people NOT THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE!? How about Fallout 1 and 2? Divine Divinity? Diablo? What about those kinds of games!?
Why? it's cool to compared and the same creators of Dead Cells said something about inspirations to Roguelike/Castlevania/Souls games in this last about the combat. You can see that in the home page of Dead Cells Hollow Knight obviously has inspiration to Metroid, Zelda and Faxanadu, but when you play you can see stuffs and unfortunately for other games you think in Dark Souls sometimes. The Shade in Hollow Knight and Bloodlines in Dark Souls and the entery world. Not simiralitys in mechanichs or combat system. Hollow Knight is different to Dark Souls but have something like souls. Magic essence of this game in the purity essence inside in the entiry game. I love Hollow Knight so much. Have something about narrative and other stuff.
I understand that but i prefer see the impact in the community this game what neccesary was for the industry too. It's weird and well when something become a meme can transform to annoying people to compare to all. Remind the case of Crash Bandicoot and the comparation in one review was a disaster.
tomerca10 I've played about 40 hours of NT and 80 hours of EtG and can wholly say they are very different games. Nuclear Throne is more hectic and puts emphasis on target priority and your reaction time. Enter the Gungeon on the other hand is a game that requires planning ahead and making the most of what you have. Enemies in Enter the Gungeon tend to be more methodical, whereas Nuclear Throne's enemies tend to be more spastic and spontaneous. Both games have a very different flow, and have a unique feel when playing them. TL:DR - Nuclear Throne is a spastic twin-stick shooter rogue-like, whereas Enter the Gungeon is a room-based resource management rogue-lite akin to The Binding of Isaac.
'Essentially what you've bought is a piece of paper...'. Cornifer's been keeping up with his sales seminars.. Is it a piece of paper? Or is it a map to strange new lands and far off places...? Is this a stationary store that I force my long-suffering co-dependent wife to run all on her own, while I go out on long country-walks. Or is it a 'map shop', that my loving wife must selflessly tend, while I tirelessly chart a lost kingdom for posterity.
thats the lore not the art style also some dream nail text may state that the bugs under the radiance's control can think freely but they can't move freely. stuck in a eternal suffering where your dead body moves on its own and your just a spectator. a fate worse than death.
Your portrayal of Dead Cell's permadeath is intellectually dishonest. At no point in the video you give the slightest hint that there is permanent progression in Dead Cells. The impression the viewer gets is that they start completely from scratch every time, which is false. There is a wonderful and deep permanent upgrade system!
I think you approached hollow knight with a bad mindset. In my opinion there's nothing quite like it and easily one of the best metroidvanias of all time
If you genuinely think there's nothing quite like it, you don't play many metroidvanias. The whole thing about hollow knight is that there are plenty of games "like" it, it just does the formula near flawlessly.
@@ppppppqqqpppIved play three metroidvanias I get what your saying and agree to an extent. But I say 'theirs nothing quite like it' in the sense that every single metroidvania I played before Hollow knight (unless you count dark souls as a metroidvania) has a had a significant problem. Super metroid has silly moments where you either have to guess what to do or look up a walk through. Symphony of the night has so many power ups that a lot of them just become kinda useless. In my opinion Hollow Knight is the best one out of those three, you right it's near flawless. I'm trying to find other metroidvanias to play though any you'd recommend?
SuperBendercade no it is a rogue lite. In bindings of Isaac you explore, and should you die you return back to the beginning, which is an aspect of every rogue like/lite. The world in dead cells changes every time you start a new run, Dark souls on the other hand stays constant. The developers of dead cells dubbed it a souls like in my opinion only to attract attention. Again Dead Cells, though I like the game very much, has nothing to do with Dark Souls.
The sames creator of the game Dead Cells use the example to Dark Souls in the Combat, you can see in the page home of Dead Cells. Souls Lite Combat. And they use the this words ''Roll roll roll your boat gently down the stream...'' and they mention the Boss fights and the minions too.
i never did understand the praise the Souls series gets. they are beautiful games with great atmosphere but the controls are sluggish and clunky which was an intentional design to create difficulty. I am not saying the games themselves are bad just bad controls for the sake of difficulty. But hey everyone has different taste, an I really tried liking the games because i love the settings and the atmosphere. Nor are the games hard, after playing Demon Souls and about half of Dark Souls. Like any game once once learn how to work with the controls they are quite easy. But it does not change the fact that the controls are sluggish and clunky. Yes i expect a backlash from fanboys for criticizing their game of choice. Bloodborne was a step in the right direction as the controls are smoother and a bit more fluid. Plus you gotta love Lovecraftian atmosphere.
ShadowCthulu I don't think it's that the controls are sluggish, exactly. It's more that the way the character moves is pretty faithful to the animation. So, for eg., if you want to turn 180°, your character actually has to move forward slightly, then turn shoulders, then move one foot back, shift weight, move other foot... Compare that to movement in a Super Mario game, where Mario can instantly turn on a dime. Movement in DS is slower and more deliberate because it takes time for your character to do things, not because there is lag between your pushing the button and the character beginning to move. As for difficulty, I tend to agree; but I think it really depends what your basis for comparison is.
That could be True Noah. I thank you both for your perspective on that and not just saying "git gud" which is just the reply from someone with nothing constructive to say.
I think more than anything it's a psychological-based difficulty. It makes you panic and wonder what to do, when in reality it's usually something simply like "jump backwards". I wouldn't say the controls are sluggish what I find, it's more just it has a wind-up (which is the point, you have to commit to an attack) Granted, I've never played Dark Souls, but I've somewhat come to understand why people like it.
I personally believe that the controls are not bad, per-say. I think that the crushing, unforgiving difficulty would expose the flaws of even a near-perfect control system. however, considering, I feel that the controls of dark souls are actually rather masterful considering the level of skill and articulation that it must be possible, if not easy, to perform.
These reviews never fail to give fascinating, if slightly worrying, insights into Yahtzee's sex life.
Yuki Haruto I'll be honest, I wanted to see Yahtzee's Nintendo Switch Review to see if he would make a reference to his Color Splash Review in which called the then newly revealed Switch the NX... But no such joke occurred during the beginning of the video.
J. Hanna if you're going to bang an animal, why not a Dolphin?
+homesponge He did a review on the Switch. It's included in his review of Breath of The Wild.
Oh crap, I wasn't the only one having that "Did He just share his sex life with us?" moment !!!
Yuki Haruto He has a girlfriend you know.
WHAT? Yahtzee likes Dark Souls? INCONCEIVABLE!
Next you'll be telling me he likes PORTAL!
or PAINKILLER! PREPOSTOROUS!!
Aubrey Westhusing BULLSHITE
He likes Portal. *runs away*
No wait, maybe he even likes Shadow of the Colossus! Or even Thief 2! Who knows he might even like Prince of Persia or Half-Life!!!
But WAIT does that mean he doesn't actually like ride to hell retribution How is that possible?
Hollow Knight was surprising, I bought it at total random day 1 cause it looked cute but then I fell in absolute love with it!
Yeah, it's a bit of a hidden gem I think. The game is pretty incredible if you like melancholy atmospheres, slower but more strategic combat, and heavy exploration. And if he thinks the difficulty curves down he clearly hasn't ever fought Failed Champion or The Radiance. Or the more recent Nightmare King Grimm.
Biggest thing though, I can't believe how they managed to make a giant cave have so many aesthetically unique areas.
That's how I feel about my Thai sex worker "wife".
@@Dliciousization I think the difficulty curve changes, going up over time as a whole but doing down against individual enemies. Early on it isn't that hard because enemies just don't have that many ways to hurt you besides contact damage (plus you have plenty of windows for healing and the enemies have small hitboxes). Hell, I don't think I died early on at all. Lategame you can just tank or move past most of what would otherwise hurt you.
Dash does make fights easier, as do a number of charm pickups. At the same time, enemies also start getting stronger, some can deal double damage and some have some nasty tricks up their sleeves.
Later on enemies get tougher and the dash becomes a thing you need. Shade Dash allows them to start pitting you against *real* fights, like NKG, the Radiance, and the Godhome bonus bosses. (It also helps in the Colosseum of Fools...)
Ar0474 I bought it and hated it
@@johnelam23 keep playing
While Hollow Knight is of the cutsey style, it more than makes up for the atmosphere. I mean, holy dicks wrapped in sandpaper, the Ancient Basin, Abyss, and Deepnest are so well made, that with a limited palette, sound and music alone, can create very oppressing and rather foreboding experiences.
Hollow Knight is simply one of the best platforming games ever made imho. And I've been platforming since 1982.
Deepnest still gives me nightmares
Dude screw the Deepnest. Straight up.
Stone Sanctuary, The Abyss and the Soul Sanctum are such fucked up places
The soul sanctum is also pretty creepy imo
One day someone will combine Dark Souls and Portal and create Yhatzee's dream game.
So it's basically Portal where the fight against GLaDOS is the first mini-boss?
*jots that idea down*
Dark Portals. Oh, opportunities for sex jokes that this name inspires.
I thought his all time favourite was the Thief-series (Well the first few at any rate)?
It won't be his dream game, because he'll complain its a portal/dark souls rip off
Wait, did I hear correctly that he kinda liked both games?
i think we're all kinda shocked as well
Gee, it's not like he's ever liked a game beforehand.
What about Portal?
I got a letter.
The name on the envelope said 'Silent Hill 2'.
A Japanese horror game's name...
It's ridiculous, couldn't possibly be true...
That's what I keep telling myself...
Surely a Japanese horror game can't appeal to Yahtzee.
Obadiah Fraiser And Undertale, Doom, Psychonauts, Bioshock, Metroid Prime, Titanfall 2, Spec Ops: The Line, Fantasy World Dizzy, Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door, Wind Waker, EarthBound, Bioshock Infinite, Papers Please, etc. etc...
Other things I like from Hollow Knight that are in Dark Souls but weren't mentioned: enemy variety, telegraphed attacks, bosses that teach you in phase 1 then build on it in phase 2, hidden areas, lack of direction given to you by the game leading to exploration.
While I think that HK is a good game, the whole 'encouraging exploration' thing is only a plus if the game world itself is very interesting. Even then, monotony can set in if you have to keep backtracking over the same areas and it can kill any atmosphere the game has going for it.
@@Bragglord Even though the game has similarities to DS it's still an entirely different genre of game. It's a mertoidvania which means a lot of exploration and backtracking. Also I find it hard to describe Hollow Knights exploration dull when half of the abilitys and most of the areas and bosses can be skipped or barley explored to beat the game. So that means discovering many different enemies, bosses, power ups, and entirely different play styles in charms is all reward for exploration.
Enemy variety, telegraphed attacks, bosses that have a phase 2 that builds on phase 1... I think you've just described most video games?
As soon as I see a game I like (Dead Cells in this case) in the title of his videos, I think "Can't wait for him to trash talk the game into oblivion."
Still love his content, though :)
Yahtzee has the power of removing any hypelens that I may have to a game by force, if needed
Dishonored may have been the hardest hit from him, still love both though
Hey, Hollow Knight has a "dodge roll", you just need to reach one of the late areas in the game to get it.
gophermanX WHERE?!
elix485 spoilers... All I'll say it's dark
gophermanX Oh. Are you talking about the Shade Cloak?
not a dodge roll tho
Shade cloak has a much longer cooldown than a dodge roll and it can't be used to 100% avoid everything. The length of the i-frame duration is pretty short. It really isn't a dodge roll whatsoever. We should all just accept the fact that the entire video is a joke.
Team Cherry's main inspiration wasn't from Dark Souls either. Hell, the devs haven't even played any game to completion. So to say the game is DS inspired is ignorant to say the least.
Having just played Hollow Knight, I feel as though comparing it to Dark Souls does it a disservice. It is a metroidvania title.
Only harder. -_-
Edit: *NOT* in a good way.
Yeah he only says that like eight times in the video.
Yeah, it's pretty dumb, the developers themselves have gone out of their way to say they weren't trying to replicate Dark souls.
@@jackgarcia5926 Whether they wanted it or not, the two games feel very similar. Sure, there are major differences, it's not like Hollow Knight is a ripoff of Dark Souls, but the grim and lonely atmosphere, the way the story is told, the death mechanic, the themes of decay and struggling against the inescapable entropy, the abundance of side paths and optionnal areas, the insistance on imposing, dangerous bosses that you have to learn the pattern of the get past and of course, the difficulty... All of that adds up to make the two games feel very close and I doubt Hollow Knight would have looked the same if Dark Souls didn't exist. It's definitly an inspiration.
And, to make this clear, I'm aware that none of the elements I just listed are unique to Dark Souls. But when you add them all together, you get something that looks like a Souls game. Also, saying HK isn't like DS because it's a metroidvania forgets that DS is almost a metroidvania and was certainly inspired by the genre mixed with RPGs. The sprawling open-world with an abundance of side paths that you have to explore and backtrack through once you unlocked new areas is not something From Software invented.
The only real gameplay similarity is recollecting your "souls" (geo) when you die. And I guess the general boss-centric thing, and the all-connected map. Those seem more general features rather than Dark Souls specific.
I like Dead Cells.
I might be addicted to Dead Cells.
I've put in a hundred hours on Dead Cells, and I'm never getting them back.
BRB, still have to get the blueprint for the automatic crossbow from the Forgotten Sepulchre.
Nikola Janevski hunters grenade
Nah, dude. Ice blast and fire brands.
hunters grenade works wonders
@@xenogorwraithblade2538 Got both, and the barrier shield, if that's rare.
And I didnt use hunter grenade to get it.
Is the infinite bow rare? Thought it was mocking me when it said "the last shot is critical", until i used it.
The important question here is "so you have 100 hours in the game, how many times have you actually finished it, and how many boss cells are you on?"
As i've finished it about 10 times, and have a mere 2 boss cells after more like 200 hours...
no wonder why i cant beat dark souls 2, i keep getting side tracked thinking about my water heater
That's why you should have district heating instead. In fact this is the reason Denmark does so well on the pro level. We have district heating so no one is distracted by their water heater because they don't have one.
hedgehog3180 Now that's just not possible. Everyone thinks of water heaters
Hollow Knight was a fun one. Best indie game of the year so far.
Hero Of Rhyme I dunno. TEiN has even more cheap difficulty than Hollow Knight and Dead Cells combined. Being so monstrously hard may detract some fans.
Then in comes Cuphead, then the game shifts dramatically
BlazeHeartPanther Blaze Cuphead is complete dogshit compared to Hollow Knight.
Whoa, I never said that. Cuphead has as much quality as Hollow Knight.
Honestly, Hollow Knight is a much more enjoyable and longer experience. I know that it is simply your opinion but I don't think you would be saying it has as much quality if you actually 100%'ed HK. He is actually right to an extent. Cuphead does seem like dogshit when compared to Hollow Knight. Not saying Cuphead is bad, it's an 8/10 in my book but HK managed to exceed normal expectations and ended up being a near perfect 10/10 experience. There are some minor nitpicky problems so I would probably just put HK at a solid 9/10.
The world and how it was just perfectly laid out just resonated with me so well. The story hidden in the world isn't even a cliche one either. Not going to say much to avoid any spoilers but as an overall package the game is amazing.
Wait 1 sec... Shoving a lego building up his little brother's arse...
-Goes to Breath of the Wild Review
Ubisoft: "Sometimes at Night I take a little model of a tower and shove it (up my ass)"
So, If i'm getting this right, yahtzee was ubisoft's older, abusive brother. Yahtzee tormented his brother with lego ass-towers for breaking his little lego house. Eventually, ubisoft grew fond of having a tower shoved up his rear, and, combining this with his love of the old elder scrolls games, decided to spread his love for towers through the medium of sandbox games. Yahtzee, after becoming a game critic, decided both to torment his brother and do his job by ripping every game ubisoft ever created a new asshole.
Not sure if this has left joke territory and gone into fancfic territory, but i'll roll with it.
This will be bloodborne 2's lore.
Deepest lore.
pardon, _vore*_
I'm not sure whether to be disturbed, horrified, offended, or amused....
I am disturbed in an intriguing way
+Battle scared Alien to quote jonny brovo "i'm sickened but curious."
3:49 Seeing these two games in the same picture warms my little frozen heart
3:27 Yeah, the difficulty takes a drop after you get the dash, then your overconfident ass goes into the White Palace, Nightmare King Grimm and Radiance fights before you are repeatedly kerbstomped. Then, while you're crying tears of pure salt and replaced the controller for the third time, the game invites you to check out this delicious little lore tidbit behind a platforming challenge called "The Path of Pain", which it turns out is very, very accurately named.
I guess the point I'm making is that sure, the difficult feels like it drops as you progress through the game and yes, you can get the bad ending without too much hassle but if you really want to see everything Hollow Knight has to offer then that difficulty curve is going to start going very steeply upwards until it resembles a wall. A wall covered in circular saw blades.....
Yea I'm wondering why he thinks the dash was a power spike... that's like, the very beginning of the game. I know he has a lot of reviews to do, but it does seem like he barely scratches the surface before reviewing them.
@@justinz9225 Because if your reactions times are good enough, mobility is overpowered as hell. Can't die if you never get hit.
5 hours, it took me 5 hours to finish the white palace
@@Pheonix19581 now do path of pain :)
Yeah. The normal enemies maybe cheesed by dash but it doesn't work on boses. The different builds is a lot more fun in HK than DS. Cause you really have to think of how to allocate you slots. And besides hollow knight's small enemies still do the same damage which makes it brutal if youre not careful.
So... Yahtzee has ascended to a critic demonic deity who enjoys the suffering of the whole videogame comunnity complete with echoey voice.
Well that explains the Chzo Mythos. He was envisioning the world's future under his rule.
It is slightly telling how much suicide comes up in his early work. What with the ending puzzle in Trilby's notes, and the whole thing with the High Ones in whatever that space game was called, or that fucking random corpse just hanging off a tree for no reason in The Trials of Odysseus Kent. I suspect that Yahtzee badly wanted to kill himself, at least up until he figured out what a vagina is at age 30.
Nah, son: he a Protoss now.
I could definitely see Yahtzee pulling an Ayreon-esque Electric Castle Experiment; putting a bunch of dishevelled gamers through a gauntlet of his reviews to harvest their emotions.
He also sounds like he wants additional pylons. Perhaps for previously mentioned ass-shoving.
TheLegendaryVGA96 I agree
"4. Exprolation" 3:44
"5. The Culncosion" 4:19
Everything okay Yahtzee?
He did say something about a stroke
Hollow knight is a true masterpiece.You can't listen someone talk about it or watch a trailer or a gameplay about it.You can't know without playing it.It's a spectacular experience.
Alu- Card
Yeah that's what everyone said about Undertale, and I thought it was dogshit.
I'm leaving a comment here just to watch on the off chance that this comment chain explodes *grabs popcorn*
To be fair, the undertail fanbase is horrible. Hollow knight is more like a sleeping hit, its a very good metroidvania. Same thing with salt and sanctuary.
As much as I want to go down the well worn, heavily opinionated tangent of "blah blah blah, u didn't like a game I liked so you I hate you" Having lately gone off of the high of loving something very much and now being able to coherently listen to criticism of it, I would honestly much rather neutrally hear your reasoning for disliking the game.
+Stock090, Maybe it's just me, but I really don't get why people hate on fanbases. The Undertale, FNAF, Sonic and Minecraft fanbases are nowhere close to the like of Steven Universe, where actually aggressive things happen, and the hate of that fanbase is actually justifiable. It just seems to me like people wasting their time of day hating on people for being passionate about something on the internetz. You don't see people lamenting the fanbase of Dark Souls, but probably because it's the better accepted fanbase.
Undertale is a good game. The story is good until up until the last bit of the normal run, where it becomes a cheese-fest and the music becomes insufferable (Hopes and Dreams *shudder*), but you can understand why people love it.
I loved Hollow Knight. Though the Arena of Fools challenge drove me up the fucking wall.
Thankfully that's as optional a part as it can be :) I really like when games includes these things, it usually forces you to try out a lot of tactics you haven't tried before. That being said I can understand people complaining about the white palace platforming "mini game" sequence, but I actually didn't mind it much, maybe because I used hiveblood :P That's optional as well, but it breaks with what you've been doing all game AND is required for beating the "true final boss".
Michael Rasmussen | No, Arena of Fools is not optional because every part of the game must be played because it is such a great game. Atleast in my eyes, I HAVE to beat it.
Try doing it on steel soul mode, might give legitimate PTSD.
Still need to finish that last fucking arena challenge to 100% the game and as a result I haven't returned to it in a fucking month.
Kevin Gallagher Ah the arena is nothing compared to Nightmare King Grimm I still think about him, he consumes me. He literally gave me PTSD.
You should re-do the Dead Cells review now that the game is "finished" and has permanent progression elements.
Especially given that a lot of the story is told in a fairly passive way from the remains of areas and brief notes rather like Dark Souls. Ya know along with being a once thriving Kingdom ravaged by plague.
Dead Cells is a decent action game. Hollow Knight is the greatest MetroidVania ever made.
I would say that bouth games right now are masterpieces. Dead cells for me was first ENJABLE rouge lite/like for me and i just bought it after i finshed 100% achivements for Hollow Knight and you know THEY ADDED PURE NAIL INTO Dead Cells and plays same as in Hollow knight.
Been playing Dead Cells for a while and ONLY JUST LEARNED I COULD DODGE ROLL
I wish he would've just given this the usual double bill treatment. Hollow Knight tends to evoke elements of the Souls gameplay but clearly has it's own direction it wanted to take in terms of the gameplay and story and to merely compare the points is a very apples and oranges thing to do when on it's own it stands perfectly well to someone who had never played Dark Souls.
I dunno I'm just biased because I liked the game and am a sucker for people who understand that sprites were supposed to evolve to be hand drawn and not mire in the pixel purgatory.
Dead Cells takes on the pixelart exceedingly well. It's a filter over 3D (which at the time of production wasn't popular, but did gain some attention as it progressed) which makes the whole art seem far more lifelike and fluid than other pixelart games (such as Catacomb Kids). The background/foreground art in Dead Cells is by far the most gorgeous thing I have seen in a 2D game, even surpassing Hollow Knight in its gloomy, toned-down atmosphere, akin to that of Darkest Dungeon.
Plus, it's variety. Sprites can evolve into hand drawn or grow into a beautiful fluid thing. Or even stay the same and still prove itself well made and fitting (TBOI, Risk of Rain). Variety is the spice of life.
I know I’m late but I just wanted to point out that’s completely not how art develops. Styles don’t die as the period ends or new technology is available. If it looks good, it doesn’t matter if there’s a more technologically complex style.
If there are three things humans are good at it's
- recognizing patterns
- comparing unfamiliar to familiar
- messing everything up
Hollow Knight is like Dark Souls in the sense that it has rest points and is difficult and that's about it really.
Dead Cells is somehow even less like Dark Souls. It has big dudes in armor..I guess? Well you play as an undead presumably so I suppose that also counts.
4:00 That *does* work really well. Like "oh hell, I just accidentally fell into Deepnest. Everything is spiders. The walls are spiders. The food is spiders. My face is spiders. Help. Oh what I would do for a bug with a piece of paper right about now to help me find the way out of this hellhole."
I read it in Yahtzee's voice and got quite amused. Good job, dear sir.
Finally Hollow Knight!
Finally Dead Cells!
finally hyper light dri- oh wait why hasn't he done it yet
Agreed
Fancy Manticore Lol given his talk on Nier, I don't expect anything good for hyper light drifter.
you never know... that dog seems to be turning him soft
I'm so glad I didn't hallucinate these games stapled to my steam queue for three weeks
It makes me quite happy that Yahtzee enjoys Hollow Knight.
Hollow Knight is a wonderful experience. The world they built is just mystical, and I love the feel of it. The gameplay is also solid.
Dead Cells (which I'm currently playing). I dunno, I like the fighting, I like the way you progress in theory, but there just isn't enough variation to make doing all those same levels over and over a rewarding experience.
After a dozen or so runs, that first floor (and the few after that with time) become very boring, and it just makes you want to stop. The random layouts mean nothing most of the time because there's little difference. A different amount of upgrades, same ole' shops. It's all the same to your mind.
If they fill it out a little bit (like you're supposed to in ea). Add more enemies and more variation, it could be a pretty good game.
CrabJock 100% agree, it’s just far too repetitive
Someone clearly hasn't played Rise of the Giant DLC or progressed beyond BSC 2
How do you feel about it now?
Hey I like this game.
*One round of mental gymnastics later*
It's like Dark Souls
Azurite I originally agreed with you but I began to wonder. Is Hollow Knight a Souls-like Metroidvania or did Dark Souls just take several elements from Metroidvanias that nobody saw?
The looping back around and backtracking of Dark Souls is quite similar to Metroidvanias right?
Of course Dark Souls using stamina is quite unique though.
I guess what Hollow Knight borrowed from Dark Souls is mostly the vast, grandiose world that once reach a golden age but is now dying of a slow, silent and drown out death, where you meet various characters each having their own adventure parralel to you and who have to struggle with not giving up hope and surrounding themselves to the madness that reak throughout this land's very own air.
Not so much the various Metroidvanias elements that aren't so much associated with Dark Souls since they've been pretty much integrated to the gaming landscape by now.
Also, when you die, you have to go back to the place you died in order to recover your currencies, and if you die before, you lose them forever, and the ennemies are mostly undead, hollowed version of the mens they once were.
Hollow Knight nailed the Dark Souls atmosphere like no other game did, including games that tried much harder to imitate Dark Souls.
Bingo, the Dark Souls comparison is mostly present in the atmosphere.
The actual game mechanics, not so much. But there's quite a bit more to a game than just the gameplay.
@@ManoredRed which is interesting, cause the developers insist that dark souls wasn't an influence on the game.
Dead cells seems to have improved a lot between here and launch. I mean, it added a story and everything!
Dead cells has changed a lot since this came out, it's much more fair throughout the run, and they also added kill without getting hit doors for exploration, as well as the time doors. I'd like to see a how you like the new updates because 1.9 is a blast (I know 2.0.1 is out but I dont have a PC)
This was the first video I've watched of yours and was disappointed with what you said about Hollow Knight, but then I watched your other videos and realized that you must really like the game to not tear into it like the others
I honestly never got any Dark Souls vibes from Dead Cells. It's got hard combat, yes, and you can dodge roll, but there's so much more energy to it and the bleankness has such a goofy humor to it that it never gives me anything close to the mournful, elegiac feeling of Dark Souls. Which is not to say that it's not EFFECTIVE gallows humor. The guy executed by firing squad made me laugh like a crazy person, and even the loading screen notes tended to get a chuckle out of me, but it never gave me the sense that it was really trying for any of the same things that Dark Souls had.
Damn it Yahtzee....why that voice in your "points"
Next you'll be telling us we need to mine more minerals in that voice
I'm a Metroidvania fan. And I bought Dead Cells and I love it. I might need to try Hollow Knight in December
Stevey Hooves did you try it? How did it go?
I guess dark souls was split into two games. Frustration and gameplay challenge in Dead Cells, atmosphere and world building in Hollow Knight. Quite like the concept, that way you can pick and choose which parts of dark souls you like more.
I prefer Dead Cells though, the weapons just feel so nice and the movement is very responsive.
HK is hard as fuck.
Hk is like, significantly harder than dead cells
@@harrylane4 they are both really hard but uh
Have you heard about 5BSC in Dead Cells?
3:11, “vicious attack particle effects”? Do you by any chance mean, “diarrhea Christmas lights”?
“I understood that reference!”
I'm glad Yahtzee likes Hollow Knight.
I’m still convinced that the only person who actively hates Hollow Knight is that one guy who said it was a rip off of Ori.
Love both the games but I found Dead Cells more addicting. The thing with Dead Cells is that it never gets easy.
Weird. I never would have expected Yahtzee to "review" these two games by flatly comparing them to Dark Souls, rather than discussing each one's status as an individual game. I thought he hated that "game journalists saying that everything is Dark Souls" trend.
Good for you Yhatzee. Not afraid to insult Dead Cells
Dont like the rogue like style of Dead cells, but loved Hollow knight.
I actually burst out laughing when the hollow "support my patreon"
fuck that was deep
I'm pretty sure youre the human personification of the endless litany my ADD little brain supplies me with 24/7....it's a bit comforting realizing I'm not the only one lol
Completly love Hollow Knight and I havn’t played Dead Cells yet!
I was waiting for a Dead Cells review lol. Best thing I've played in a while.
Dead Cells: You are a moss-monster running around in a corpse killing zombies usually with fire but not always while looking for blue-prints that never drop when you want them to but always do when you turn the corner and die anyways losing them and having to recollect them You also take dead cells from enemies to get new items Most shields suck and firebrand is amazing
Balanced blade is love, balanced blade is life
Throwing Knife for days, especially with the 2x damage done/dealt.
RANGE LIKE FUCK AND MURDER ALL THE THINGS
Shields are amazing once you can time them right. They are the best anti-boss weapon (and vs many enemies that does huge ammouns of DMG, like the pirate)
Yea but
Why use the shield
When you can expertly dodge roll and mow through them with FireBrand or Throwing Knife?
Hollow knight best game of 2017
Yahtzee: **implies there's no perma-death in Hollow Knight**
Me: **has soul steel mode flashbacks**
I have good news for you, Yahtzee. And it comes with fucking steam achievements
Since when was Yahtzee a Protoss?
Great video as always, love ya Yahtzee
This guy puts some damn time making the videos.
Mmm, dodge rolls. Sounds like breakfast.
Woah woah woah, I saw that Hyper Light Drifter next to Salt and Sanctuary... where's the review?
The fact the Yatzy described hollow knight as not bleak or gross makes me think that he did play it vary long.
Dead cells is metroidvania too as in you have to go whack a boss to get an upgrade to progress the game, dead cells also has a hidden lore
Hollow Knight gets insanely hard, depending on how far you actually want to go. I suppose if you stop at the "end" of the story, it's not THAT hard. But then there are the Dream versions of all the bosses. Plus the Pantheon. Plus Path of Pain. Plus the Radiance.
It really ramps up beyond my capability.
Thought so to practiced and practiced some more and beat it except pantheon of hallownest.
"both nice little time killers"
Hollow Knight goty
0:51 And you can Thank Jim Sterling for that
And while you're at it, you can thank God for Jim Sterling.
Two totally different games, but sure let's lump them together and review them together. I love your channel but you should have just reviewed them separately. BTW I've seen all your videos! Keep killing it!
Not to mention, the HK devs have made it clear that Dark Souls wasn't a direct influence, though perhaps Yahtzee didn't have this info when he made this vid.
Yahtzee sounds like Artemis from Starcraft when announces the categories
Hurrah for Hollow Knight!
Speaking as a younger brother, too real Yahtzee... I still have nightmares of Mr. Stiffer and the 9th floor
- Not enough minerals! (protoss voice)
- ha ha haaaaaa
- sorry...
To be fair, dead cells actually does have a very similar world atmosphere to hollow knight and dark souls, it just doesnt present that quickly
its reached the point where i watch his revewis even if ive never heard of the game before, just because they are so entertaining
Go play hollow knight
yeah, dead cells needs something to make you feel like you progressed. it feels like there's something missing.
Must. Talk. Faster.
Dead Cells, a year later, seems to have kicked things up a notch and finally gotten out of early access. Having only picked it up recently, there's definitely permanent progression if you can cash it all in without getting lopped into pieces.
Dead Cells already feels so great to play, I'm excited to see what's coming next for it
Both great. Buuut, I prefer Dead Cells. Because now even I can play and enjoy Dark Souls.. Sorta. They aren't really comparable in my mind, but great video nonetheless. I like you've been covering more indie titles of recent.
I want Yahtzee to be my dad
Sorry to say, but he would probably ditch you.
He'd probably shove a lego build up your ass. ;)
One thing is certain, he wouldn't let you play Kirby epic yarn.
Sainsbury's Chocolate Chip Cookie I want him as my daddy *lenny face*
Unless you're like Dark Souls then I don't think that he'd like you very much.
Are you going to review Death´s Gambit when it comes out??It´s straight up Dark Souls in 2D
Wait- what!? Yahtzee, how have you gone over Hollow Knight and Dead Cells, but not GUNGEON? I mean, it really surprised me that you made a review of overly difficult indie-roguelike games without mentioning Enter the Gungeon. It was perfect for this video...
But none of them are roguelikes.
Mate, Gungeon is a roguelike.
A difficult game with a randomly generated map, in which, if you die, you must start from the beginning.,
RedNarwhal got it for years and still never made it even to the final boss
I play both and love them both of em
"Man, this game is quite difficult........ ROUGELIKE METROIDVANIA DARK SOULS SOULSLIKE ROGUEVANIA ROGUELITE AHHHHH IS THIS GAME IN THIRD PERSON, HAVE METHODICAL COMBAT, MAKES YOU CONSUME STAMINA WITH EVERY MOVE, AND HAVE NO MAP? NO? DO YOU DROP YOUR SHIT WHEN YOU DIE? THEN ITS DARK SOULS BOYS"
Toki Wo Tomato Considering stamina management is about the only thing that differentiates Dark Souls from other Hack'n'slah games, I wouldn't count the combat as THE defining aspect of the game.
"an important part of the Dark Souls formula is that the character has to gross us out a bit" Yahtzee, that was a pretty poor piece of commentary. I don't want games retreading the decisions of previous similar titles and neither do you. As someone who constantly talks about games doing the same thing over and over again, I'm surprised how much this part completely overlooks that.
Exprolation.
who uses tape on legos? the pros always use gorrilla glue
Yell Dead Cells!
Wait Hallow Knight is 4 years old??? I thought it just came out like a year ago…
DARKSOULS?
SOULS LIKE?
please stop I think we know that you love dark souls already
please stop comparing every indie game to dark souls
John Green
I think he will stop comparing every indie game to dark souls when every indie game stops being dark souls. But I am okay with that cause I like dark souls.
Hollow Knight has its charm, and maybe I'm too much of a long-session player to get the most out of it, but I got really, really sick of the amount of metaphorical brick walls in it that are only vulnerable to the painful headbutt maneuver. That, and the infinite backtracking to find whatever place I needed to go next. Oh, and the bosses who flit about the screen with their homing stomp-slam moves, while the player character floaty-jumps like a mario full of helium with a massive bullseye painted on its forehead.
Honestly though I'm getting sick of everything being compared to dark souls.
Can people NOT THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE!?
How about Fallout 1 and 2? Divine Divinity? Diablo?
What about those kinds of games!?
Why? it's cool to compared and the same creators of Dead Cells said something about inspirations to Roguelike/Castlevania/Souls games in this last about the combat. You can see that in the home page of Dead Cells
Hollow Knight obviously has inspiration to Metroid, Zelda and Faxanadu, but when you play you can see stuffs and unfortunately for other games you think in Dark Souls sometimes. The Shade in Hollow Knight and Bloodlines in Dark Souls and the entery world. Not simiralitys in mechanichs or combat system.
Hollow Knight is different to Dark Souls but have something like souls. Magic essence of this game in the purity essence inside in the entiry game. I love Hollow Knight so much. Have something about narrative and other stuff.
I know, I love the game Dark Souls as well.
But it is getting rather annoying that appears to be the ONLY game that exists anymore.
I understand that but i prefer see the impact in the community this game what neccesary was for the industry too. It's weird and well when something become a meme can transform to annoying people to compare to all. Remind the case of Crash Bandicoot and the comparation in one review was a disaster.
Thumbs up for reminding me of Divine Divinity. One of my top five of all time.
Glad to meet someone else who plays that game. :)
I think you should re-visit Dead Cells since it's been updated and had added a lot more things. Including a bit of plot.
hollo *w knight updat* *_ES TOO_*
I want to see what he thinks of Enter the Gungeon
Turtle Mind Games Or better yet, Nuclear Throne.
Turtle Mind Games In a stream he briefly said it was somewhat repetitive
enter the gungeon will always look to me like a nuclear throne clone
dark, are you talking about EtG or NT?
tomerca10 I've played about 40 hours of NT and 80 hours of EtG and can wholly say they are very different games. Nuclear Throne is more hectic and puts emphasis on target priority and your reaction time. Enter the Gungeon on the other hand is a game that requires planning ahead and making the most of what you have. Enemies in Enter the Gungeon tend to be more methodical, whereas Nuclear Throne's enemies tend to be more spastic and spontaneous. Both games have a very different flow, and have a unique feel when playing them.
TL:DR - Nuclear Throne is a spastic twin-stick shooter rogue-like, whereas Enter the Gungeon is a room-based resource management rogue-lite akin to The Binding of Isaac.
'Essentially what you've bought is a piece of paper...'. Cornifer's been keeping up with his sales seminars.. Is it a piece of paper? Or is it a map to strange new lands and far off places...? Is this a stationary store that I force my long-suffering co-dependent wife to run all on her own, while I go out on long country-walks. Or is it a 'map shop', that my loving wife must selflessly tend, while I tirelessly chart a lost kingdom for posterity.
How is Hollow knight cute! Most design are nightmare fuel or commit cannibalism
thats the lore not the art style also some dream nail text may state that the bugs under the radiance's control can think freely but they can't move freely. stuck in a eternal suffering where your dead body moves on its own and your just a spectator. a fate worse than death.
@@name1492 I was talking about designs mostly.
The Knight alright but Hornet is definitely comparably cute.
Been going through Hollow Knight these days, and lemme just say…
FUCK THE SOUL SANCTUM.
I like Hollow knight but man the frame rate
Finally someone knew hollow knight and ded cells are similar
Your portrayal of Dead Cell's permadeath is intellectually dishonest. At no point in the video you give the slightest hint that there is permanent progression in Dead Cells. The impression the viewer gets is that they start completely from scratch every time, which is false. There is a wonderful and deep permanent upgrade system!
I think you approached hollow knight with a bad mindset. In my opinion there's nothing quite like it and easily one of the best metroidvanias of all time
If you genuinely think there's nothing quite like it, you don't play many metroidvanias.
The whole thing about hollow knight is that there are plenty of games "like" it, it just does the formula near flawlessly.
@@ppppppqqqpppIved play three metroidvanias I get what your saying and agree to an extent. But I say 'theirs nothing quite like it' in the sense that every single metroidvania I played before Hollow knight (unless you count dark souls as a metroidvania) has a had a significant problem. Super metroid has silly moments where you either have to guess what to do or look up a walk through. Symphony of the night has so many power ups that a lot of them just become kinda useless. In my opinion Hollow Knight is the best one out of those three, you right it's near flawless.
I'm trying to find other metroidvanias to play though any you'd recommend?
Dead cells has nothing to do with Dark Souls. I don't see any connection whatsoever
SuperBendercade no it is a rogue lite. In bindings of Isaac you explore, and should you die you return back to the beginning, which is an aspect of every rogue like/lite. The world in dead cells changes every time you start a new run, Dark souls on the other hand stays constant. The developers of dead cells dubbed it a souls like in my opinion only to attract attention. Again Dead Cells, though I like the game very much, has nothing to do with Dark Souls.
It's become a bit of a meme to describe any game with difficulty and dark elements as "just like Dark Souls!"
The sames creator of the game Dead Cells use the example to Dark Souls in the Combat, you can see in the page home of Dead Cells. Souls Lite Combat. And they use the this words ''Roll roll roll your boat gently down the stream...'' and they mention the Boss fights and the minions too.
Super Dragon yeah wow... So Darksiders 1 and 2 are souls lite now...
The words is the creators of the game. You go and tell they are wrong lol. xD
EDIT: The Words of creators of the game.
4:40 Yahtzee recounts Doctor Who: Heaven Sent.
i never did understand the praise the Souls series gets. they are beautiful games with great atmosphere but the controls are sluggish and clunky which was an intentional design to create difficulty. I am not saying the games themselves are bad just bad controls for the sake of difficulty. But hey everyone has different taste, an I really tried liking the games because i love the settings and the atmosphere.
Nor are the games hard, after playing Demon Souls and about half of Dark Souls. Like any game once once learn how to work with the controls they are quite easy. But it does not change the fact that the controls are sluggish and clunky.
Yes i expect a backlash from fanboys for criticizing their game of choice. Bloodborne was a step in the right direction as the controls are smoother and a bit more fluid. Plus you gotta love Lovecraftian atmosphere.
ShadowCthulu Dark Souls is presumably a Stoic philosopher's patience training exercise.
ShadowCthulu I don't think it's that the controls are sluggish, exactly. It's more that the way the character moves is pretty faithful to the animation. So, for eg., if you want to turn 180°, your character actually has to move forward slightly, then turn shoulders, then move one foot back, shift weight, move other foot... Compare that to movement in a Super Mario game, where Mario can instantly turn on a dime. Movement in DS is slower and more deliberate because it takes time for your character to do things, not because there is lag between your pushing the button and the character beginning to move. As for difficulty, I tend to agree; but I think it really depends what your basis for comparison is.
That could be True Noah. I thank you both for your perspective on that and not just saying "git gud" which is just the reply from someone with nothing constructive to say.
I think more than anything it's a psychological-based difficulty. It makes you panic and wonder what to do, when in reality it's usually something simply like "jump backwards".
I wouldn't say the controls are sluggish what I find, it's more just it has a wind-up (which is the point, you have to commit to an attack)
Granted, I've never played Dark Souls, but I've somewhat come to understand why people like it.
I personally believe that the controls are not bad, per-say. I think that the crushing, unforgiving difficulty would expose the flaws of even a near-perfect control system. however, considering, I feel that the controls of dark souls are actually rather masterful considering the level of skill and articulation that it must be possible, if not easy, to perform.
“The character progression is very metroidvania” I wonder why
For once you've reviewed a game I was actually wondering whether or not I should buy. Thanks for reviewing Dead Cells.
Yatzee (sorry if I spelt it wrong) have you been to deepnest or kingdoms edge of the abyss?