Persona 5 (Zero Punctuation)
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Excuse me, the Persona 4 cast is the Scooby Gang, the Persona 5 cast are the Codename Kids Next Door
Fucking dammit how did I not see this before? What does that make the persona 3 cast though?
@@viyhexe131 The Suicide Squad
HOLY SHIT I NEVER THOUGHT OF IT LIKE THAT
@@marvelousmehki Never hand a P3 protag a real gun. Terrible mistakes will happen the next midnight.
@@mattomanx77 FUCK, MAN
This is so surreal.
He liked it, he actually liked it.
Yes, very rare indeed. AND IT DESERVES IT, DAMMIT!
Feels... validating, in a weird sort of way doesn't it buns-senpai?
Japan won this time!
WHEN IS PERSONA 5 FOR BEGINNERS GONNA COME OUT BUTTERBUNS?
i thought i would find you here, Ms. Phantom Thief
"A 60 hour JRPG"? Jesus, what kind of insane speedrun was he doing? I think I spent more like 110-120 hours on my first playthrough.
It's easy to beat in ~60 hours on the lower difficulties.
I Spent 150 hours my first time, It Sucked my Soul Like Stardew Valley.
120 hours? Phew... I'm barely into the sixth palace at that playtime ;D
120? That’s petty compared to my 160 play run don’t ask how I don’t know
@Thomas Corley sound good shame I don't have a PS4
Persona 5 gives me the ability to do things I'd never be able to do in real life.
Like studying.
Abtin instead of studying you can just play video games about studying, that's just as good, right?
RIGHT?!
And making friends
Studying at a diner while drinking expensive drinks while it's raining outside.
Because efficiency.
hahahahahahahah XD
The unable to return DVDs thing, I felt that shit. Like oh you're due in a day that's fun, here's 2 weeks of you don't get to control where you're going.
"Oooh Volleyball sounds fun"
...You did that on purpose didn't you?
Well, Yahtzee is a well-known masochist
*YAMEROO*
"Track team" this man is sadistic
holy shit I completely forgot
@@Finluz wait I didn't get it. Can you explain the joke to me?
That 'designed by sloths' comment is even more hilarious when you consider Persona 5 is still faster than it's predecessor at moving the plot forward.
Or how it took so damn long to make.
Never forget the delays
However, Atlus is good with delays.
If you notice all the f*ing polish in the game.
The game is quite polished. But the story doesn't really hold up after the halfway mark. One you pass the pyramid, you can almost feel the developers forcing the plot into rails so they can finally start moving toward the climax and final battle.
Even the villians sort of fall flat after the castle. The first boss you actually got the chance to see for your self just how much of a doucebag he was (and even experience some of his abuse for yourself). After that, it was more of people reminding you over and over that "this asshole is a terrible person because reasons".
To be fair, if your talking about the boss directly after the pyramid, what else could they of really done for him? The previous bosses work due to their direct effect on the characters, after that they keep aiming for grander people that they don't have all the information on, which is part of the whole idea is that they grew to big for themselves and their opponents capitalized on that to make sure they did what they wanted them to. The final boss was a bit of a curve ball I grant you, but it still held up narratively.
WratBastard basicly they made reserve persona 3. instead of the cast coming out with more problems then they started with, they become better as a person and more trusting of others
I cannot believe Yahtzee would play this. This is an rpg that isn't paper mario.
What's more impressive is he liked it in the end
Matt He's played plenty of RPGs
Matt You kill God using the power of friendship. Any JRPG that has that is good enough for him
perhaps after playing Xenoblade he warmed up to the idea of playing more JRPGs
No, more importantly, a JRPG that isn't paper mario.
Yahtzee actually liked a JRPG? He had to have had a change of heart. Good work, Phantom Thieves!
Best comment I've seen here. Have a like.
As they say, "YOU'LL NEVER SEE IT COMIIIIING~"
mryupjup those are ARPGS not JRPGS
Makoto Yuuki the well they're still technically jrpgs except ones turn based the other is action based.
Makoto Yuuki J stands for Japanese not Turn Based. Nioh, Nier Automata, Persona 5... all recent excellent jRPGs. Although most people do seem to use the terms synonymously.
5 Years later and i still come back to this review in disbelief that Yahtzee wont ever shut up about how much he loved this game. By this point i'm convinced the Phantom Thieves stole his heart for it to happen.
You can tell he really enjoyed this game because he couldn't help himself slipping a bunch of little Easter eggs about it into the script. My favorite is when he's listing Japanese schools extracurricular activities and ends with "Ooo, volleyball sounds fun!"
@@DiegoTan66 Quite possibly, considering I don't really understand the question. I said several things in that comment and "Are you daft?" Doesn't really point to whatever part of it you took issue with. Please elaborate.
Should I buy Persona 5 Royal I’m debating rn
@@anthonyferrara8873 Yes, and don't ask Yahtzee about it or he'll never shut up.
@@jeremycards thanks for coming back so late to respond my friend! I’m gonna get it :)
Even Yahtzee likes Persona.
That's it! Persona 5 is scientifically proven to be good.
+pooper scooper Look a well structured and intuitive argument, I am totally won over and have changed all my perceptions thanks to you! You're fantastic!
you fool, twas Bait
Of course he hated the gameplay, he doesn`t like turn-based, and micro-management (Personas are basically skills and equipment) so that was a given.
I was still impressed he liked though, it is clearly not his cup tea.
He did say that he liked the combat's rythmic quality though.
Bud The Cyborg If the gameplay isn't your cup of tea, you are basically paying for 40+ hours of anime, roughly 1.50$ per hour. I can't say I agree with you that this value is overpriced.
In Persona I can be the man I wanted to be.
*Maintaining a healthy social life and in an intimate relationship with something other than my fingers, thumb and palm*
It's more surreal and meta than silent hill 1-4 combined.
So, did anything changed, lol?)
Morgana says you're too tired to upload this video. You should go to bed
Fuck you Morgana, I got Temperance to rank 10 bitch, now my hot teacher in a maid outfit can give me a massage so I can do whatever the fuck I want.
Except the days that cant due to plot reasons. :P
PunkDisciple23 Damn cat...just let me make some lockpicks for god sake! Or maybe let me go downstairs and use the toilet! But no, all I can do is sit on the couch and fiddle with my decorations...maybe feed my plant...
damn my pay phone is downstairs and my cat wont let me past...well so much for that massage XD
That was my gripe with cat blocker cause I'd just replayed 4 so I did whatever I wanted with almost no sleep
He didn't like the battle music?
I NEVER SAW THAT COMIIIIIIIING
SpontaneousCake it seems like he did, but it just stagnated for him
Hey I love "Last Surprise" but after 80 hours of gameplay it's a little tired by now. :[
I see what you did there. I find your mind is too fast for eyes.
Nothing wrong with us weirdos. The song is just catchy to us, and it plays in our heads over and over whenever a free non-thinking moment occurs. So we play it on an endless loop for about 2 weeks before we finally get burned out on it and shuffle it into the normal playlist. If we don't do this, the song remains stuck in our heads.
Or at least that's how my head works anyway.
160hrs and still not remotely tired of it
Despite his bias against JRPGs, the biggest gripes he cited are legit problems within the series as a whole. Problems I can easily overlook, but I know some people can't. Such is life.
Well aside from people who like the turn based combat like me
Also there is more than 1 standard battle song, and the negotiation system is defined by the demons personality which the game gives you so it's not as random as he made it sound
Ultimate Despair Gamer it's a bit exacerbated by the fact that the English translation of the negotiation choices is a bit stilted and loses a lot of context. In the original Japanese it's a lot easier to guess which reply goes to which personality type.
Ultimate Despair Gamer I honestly usually got by without checking the personality, just guessing the appropriate response based on the shadow’s speech patterns. Although i do have some experience with it since i played quite a bit of SMT strange journey.
Obaryon really messed my up though, until i checked in the tutorial what kind of answers irritable shadows want. His speech patterns and him being a “kid” shadow made me think he would appreciate joking, tongue in cheek answers, but he prefers serious ones.
To be fair, based on his complaints with P5, he'd probably enjoy P3
As a psychotic completionist who has put many hours into this game, yes. Yes to all the nightmarish completion requirements. You have less than no time to increase combat skills, personality traits, and progress in the story. Don't even think about trying to cram side quests into... GOOD LORD IT'S A SATIRICAL REPRESENTATION OF JAPANESE HIGH SCHOOL LIFE.
What are you counting as completion
Is that all the trophies or is that including every Valentin day option
Couldn't help but snicker when I saw "Oh Mishima you Nelly".
You know he enjoyed it when he has to use the all-important *last joke of the video* to make fun of a completely different game.
I don't get to bang the monsters. 3/10
No, but you can get Mara as a Persona (look it up and be amazed).
I wanna bang the fate sisters...
but you get to touch morgana's paw
I wanted to be Oberon to Titania... *remebers SAO* nevermind I'll stick with Alice.
Oh I've got nothing against the anime in general, just the netorare aspect of that particular portion of the anime. Since it involves the characters invoking the namesakes of Oberon and Titania it just leaves a bad taste in the mouth whenever I remember them.
"Ooh, volleyball sounds fun!"
He HAD to have chosen volleyball on purpose. XD
Oh god he mentioned the volleyball team....
From the end credits (which are still on the Escapist website's version of the video):
"I guess the anime faces are a bit generic; there's one bit where a character turns around and we're supposed to be surprised by who it is but I couldn't tell who the fuck it was supposed to be because they changed their hairdo"
I actually found Persona to be pretty good about differentiating their characters' faces without relying on hair, but maybe I just think that because I'm too used to other anime/Japanese games where they basically don't do that at all.
Definitely too used to it.
They share the same face, whilst tweaking their expressions to represent their character.
I think Persona is one of the better animes for that. As someone who habitually draws, I can say that face shape is a bitch to get right.
.....But then again, Yosuke from P4 is supposed to be the pretty boy, and we can tell by the shape of his nose? Apparently? I read that in an official book published, but I couldn't tell.
Could you elaborate on what's difficult about face shape?
I hear good things about how the characters in these games are handled when it comes to interaction and personalities, but I cannot bring myself to stay invested in a cast where the majority of them are palette swaps of each other.
Kanji comes to mind when I think of the good, unique designs.
Most Valuable Pig I'm going to have to disagree with you on that. I don't think the characters look like pallet swaps of each other. I've seen Persona 3,4,Q, and most of 5, and I have to say that each character looks very different from each other. Maybe it's because I focus on everything in a character besides just the face, so I'm not paying the most attention to that aspect, but I think every character has a distinct look (aside from background characters). I'll give you some leeway with Q, but that's about it. Also, I don't watch that much Anime or things like it (though I will admit a decent amount), so I don't think I've been desensitized to the art style.
Must be a hell of a JRPG for Yahtzee to end the review on a positive.
even dunkey liked it, and they both hate jrpgs. i liked it and i fucking despise turn based combat (most of the time)
Poor Ass Effect. It's going to be the butt of many jokes for a long time.
wolfpax181
And it deserves it.
C'mon it's not that bad
Helmotz my face is tired
Trash Effect Andromeda
Mass Defect
I have to say, as a long time persona fan, this entry in the series was quite refreshing and made me fall in love with it all over again.
The only gripe I really have with Persona 5 is the stupid 2 time slot thing he mentioned. I just wanted to go running for a few hours with Ryuji! Apparently he made me run from 10 am until 10 pm!?
killerassassinx5x the game makes you kind of a late riser on non school days to equal out the time school would normally take. So more like 3pm to 8pm. Then 8p-12a?
killerassassinx5x my annoyed gripe is the combat flavor text only having one response per character, never did the phrase " go queen go" rub me the wrong way.
killerassassinx5x
And I'm tired of being Morgana's bitch. Let me live my life damn it!
Crashandburn999 better than Teddie.
I'd refuse to wash any armor because I thought it was absurd that it would take time to do that when I would just get something better in the near future and the time could be better spent leveling a confidant or working on social stats.
I'm surprised that Atlus didn't take this video down after the first 20 seconds.
AnIrishComposer you do realize that was to prevent spoilerd while dumn they did this for persona q but no complained then but now no o e shuts the hell up about it.
kap1618 Are you losing keys, fingers or braincells? Or maybe you're just a young, arrogant kid who thinks he knows better.
It's another "Whaaaa Atlus won't let me make money off spoiling their game!" whiner.
No one whined for Persona Q because no one gave a shit about Persona Q.
To be honest, PQ had a nice story
he opened Andromeda a new one to give P5 a minor thumbs-up... that's kinda nice of him :)
Yahtzee likes a JRPG? Ok, I'm prepping for the oncoming apocalypse.
Broekje he likes Earthbound and te Marios RPGs
A *traditional JRPG.
"A JRPG isn't a JRGP unless it ends with a bunch of teenagers using the power of friendship to slay God."
Still my favourite Yahtzee quote to this day.
that has happened about 7 times in the persona games now.
Dawn Wayfinder The weird thing is that Persona is really the only JRPG that I can think of that actually does that.
That moment when an avid JRPG hater like Yahtzee is won over by sheer fucking quality
Persona 5 will steal your heart
Guarantied or your money back
Also, its not a 60 hour game like Yahtzee said... its a 110 hour game
What is with everyone saying its a 90-100 hour game anyway? I clocked in at 84 hours and i wasnt even rushing at all.
Really
You sure your done?
Pretty sure I heard the fastest someone got done was 90 hours by skipping all the cutscenes and dialogue
Literally every source I've seen has been showing 100+
This is the first I've ever heard 80
I'm currently at 80 hours and I'm only at the Cruise
Never skipped a cutscene, got the true ending, spent plenty of time getting friendships and developing stats, only had to grind once, just for the final boss, went to mementos to do most of the requests i got.
I really dont know how i couldve made this any longer unless i was trying to 100% it. Maybe im just really skilled from playing Persona 3 and 4?
I've finally just gotten to the "present," so to speak, and I've clocked in 86 hours. I've got at least another full dungeon ahead of me, and whatever comes after that. Shit's loooooooooonnnnnngggggg.
I clocked in at 100 hours, but I'd knock off at least 10 of those, since that was the collective amount of time I left the PS4 running while doing errands.
shit yahtzee did not shit much on one of my favorites games of the year.
What DID he shit on?
ME:A, and the toilet water.
he didnt even shit on mass effect that hard. it wasnt treated like ride to hell 2 human or kane and lynch
Blastercadre This response is underrated
I think that the only game that he really hates are the ones he couldnt finish like final fantasy and xcom. I think he enjoys games but slags them off because their low brow like call of duty and promotes boring games because their artistic(i wont name anything).
I would leave a witty comment about Yahtzee liking a JRPG, but my cat is telling me to go to bed.
make it turn into a van and drive it off a cliff
The Phantom Thieves stole Yahtzees heart.
In regards to demon recruitment dialogue seeming random, their nature (listed when you target them) determines what responses they want.
Gloomy: Vague, apathetic
Irritable: Negative, confrontational
Upbeat: Positive, whimsical
Timid: Vague, encouraging (but its better to just beat timid demons up)
I think the game mentions this at some point.
Brad It's only in the tutorial section of the menu.
I thought it might've been shoved off in the side somewhere, it's easily missed.
it's in the tutorial. though sometimes the responses are ambiguous. i just gave up and fused all i missed. yoshitune makes things pretty easy.
I haven't played Persona, but assuming the mechanic is similar to the one in Shin Megami Tensei IV, I missed that when I was playing it, so I can understand missing that. And if it isn't the same, I just look like a jackass now.
Brad Nah, at some point Morgana basically goes, "Screw it, look everything else up yourself, n00b."
Oh Mishima you nelly
Operation: Maidwatch in a nutshell
Not a bad review for someone who adamantly hates JPGS. It's fun to joke but the game is seriously amazing.
Yeah its really good !
Yeah, jpg is truly an inferior image format deserving of making fun of
PNGS are way better
JPGS? I think JRPGs were what he really hated, since he does love some games from Japan quite a lot, like Dark Souls and Silent Hill 2 (among others).
It's a JRPG that Yahtzee liked. I'd expect it to be nothing short of gods damned orgasmic for someone even slightly interested in the genre.
1:34
“Was it really okay to change the heart of Thomas Babyeater, the inventor of eating babies?”
Persona 5? More like Persona I can't think of a matching pun
Persona I've...
gotcha covered.
How about Curse on a Life? Because it will still your life because it's so good.
Reaching huh...
Silas Isolias More like Persona Dive!!
I'm sorry
If you can't think of anything original just go with what anybody would expect and replace the number that starts with the same letter as a curse word, and replace that with said curse word.
Meme Thief add Schmo to the beginning, for example this would be schmona 5.
A JRPG that Yahzee likes? Must be a good day today.
Skull-fucking Freddie Mercury may not be wise...
+Zoabdy Why not sounds fun?
look him up on wikipedia, and go to "illness and death".
+Jupiter's Godzilla He doed of AIDS.
I call Morgana's vehicle form 'The Meowstery Machine', so...
Captain Pipsqueak
Phantom Thief Totoro, for me.
He's just the Cat Bus for me
I am 100% stealing this name. Thank you.
Captain Pipsqueak i call it the pusdy moblie
I call it the Cargana but fuck that's even better
If you think the demon conversation topics are odd and arbitrary in Persona 5, try Persona 2
*makes motorcycle noises*
Yahtzee played Xenoblade Chronicles X for over 30 hours, didn't give up Final Fantasy XV 2 hours in and likes Persona 5, is this a comeback for the genre?
The problem with those games, is that their stories and characters just aren't that good. Seriously, I've seen way more people praise XC 1 over X. And that's understandable. I'm also not a big fan of FF XV's gameplay. I'm glad Person 5 sticks to its gun and adds something new.
Crono Yeah, the first Xenoblade is so good... X disappointed me a lot and felt very overwhelming.
Final Fantasy XV was disappointing as well; the combat was so simple and kind of boring. The story isn't that interesting either.
@@AliciaDarky overwhelming or underwhelming? Overwhelming meant there was too much of something (besides the disappointment).
Xcx played more like an MMO than xc1 or 2. Those had story points that controlled what you could explore (can't explore this titan until you completd this story mission). XCX was meant to be exploring and researching a new planet, very different game type and world from the others
Yahtzee liked this game?
I never saw that coming.
yahtzee's definitely hit the nail on the head with "absorbing". im a huge jrpg fan but i can still only play 3, 4 hours at a time with most games. persona games i can play for literally 8-12 hours straight every day (which i did with 5, completing it after a two week cycle and a 103 hour total playtime). the life simulator and rpg elements actually balance out fairly well time-wise, so you can go between those aspects and never feel like you're getting too saturated with only doing one thing. as strange a concept as it is, it works.
You wanted to say you hated this game but you need at least bold guts.
Flashback to iwai's confidant requirement
To be fair you get to "meet" his confidant very early and Takemi gives you guts everytime you go for a clinic trial.
Until you randomly don’t have enough charm for no reason despite her calling you one test beforehand
Say what you want about Last Surprise, but syncing up an All Out Attack that finishes your foes off right at the chorus is an incredible feeling.
Was I the only one who broke out laughing when he said that bit on McDonalds Cheeseburgers with spiders in them? lol
No, I did too. They say jokes are funny because there is always some truth to them. Haha!
pooper scooper man, you've been reeeeeeeaaaally desperate with your pitifully obvious troll bait throughout the entire comment section havnt ya? funny that you also even edited this one. like you actually cared enough to fucking edit it, highlight of my day so far honestly
pooper scooper Buddy, get some new material. It's 2017. If you're gonna enrage a weeb or a child or both, you gotta go deeper. Like slipping SJWs in or something. Or vegans.
Kulit of 1000-ish Faces libtard is another recent working one, but nah, his problem isn't his choice of insult, its the method of delivery and the rate of posting, he comes across as obvioisly desperate for a reaction and rather than invoking any kind of anger just comes across comical
shurikens68 True. Invest too much and it'll backfire unless it's 4chan.
(Please visit /r/memeeconomy)
In terms of story, this is the best JRPG I've ever played. Games like Tales of Vesperia and Eternal Sonata were fun, but there's just too much grinding they force you to do, and the story line takes far too long to progress relative to the number of battles you have to win. What's more, the enemies in those games either fall over with the flick of a finger or absolutely destroy you before you know what the fuck. Probably the biggest achievement of Persona 5 is that it has a battle system that allows the player to grind and rout as many weak enemies as he or she wants to, but the nature of the Palaces turns it into a war of attrition, so you have to be careful not to overdo it or you'll never survive the final boss fight. The bosses are challenging, the voice acting is top-notch, the artwork is beautiful, and for a modern video game, it has a very original concept.
This was my first zero punctuation. And after watching half his library I realized that he really liked this game.
I was so nervous clicking this cause I like Persona. So I got all ready to watch Yahtzee eviscerate one of my favorite things and send me into a spiral of anger and depression.
Well, the joke's on me, cause he actually liked it. He even liked the turn-based combat. Hell, the criticisms he had were criticisms I already had myself.
What a nice day this is.
Yahtzee reviewing the most jrpg jrpg of all time? Well, I'd better go hunt for flying pigs at my local rivers flowing upstream.
And do he liked it? Has hell frozen over too?
Patrick Murphy I guess that means that Half Life 3 is coming out!
Merritt Animation
Nope. He would then have to play and love grand strategy games for that to happen.
So true about Ann ending ass up everytime she’s knocked out…not that I’m complaining
This game completely melted my heart and captured my imagination- something video games haven't done in ages. I can't believe that yahtzee, who dislikes jrpg even more than i do, actually gave the game a glowing review. holy shit, if this game had more brand recognition it may very well be the game of the decade
This is weird. ytz played a JRPG and liked it... nice. i never saw that coming.
.... Did you do that on purpose?
Kuma Teddie who knows
Carl Buccarey wait... I take it you know what I'm referring to?
Kuma Teddie of course bro. but i know that you know the answer to your first question ;)
"ooh volleyball sounds fun!" how can you say that after playing Persona 5
I am 130 hours in and the combat music still gets me grooooooven I just never see it coming
The verdict is in. Yayzee liked Persona 5. Game of the year.
Yahtzee, the reason I know you've never played a Persona game is because this review might as well be a review for ANY Persona game (well, at least 3 and 4). And so it's so much fun to see your perspective from a series we've all played and all of us knowing EXACTLY what you're criticizing, complimenting, etc. And the reason that makes all the fans KNOW we'll like it: because you're review comforts us into learning that Persona is INDEED still Persona. And really that's kind of all we want.
But seriously, it's like watching someone playing Pokemon for the first time and complaining about the caves and the weird combat system rules. Makes us feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
60 hours? I don't know if you played it to the end or not but it took me about 100+ I don't think it's possible to complete it in that time at least without skipping everything
Dusty took me 140 on hard.
This fucking game ate up my entire spring break. It's like Lord of the Rings times a thousand. As much as I enjoyed it, I refuse to start NG+ until Atlus releases more content, whether in a rerelease like Golden or just in the more modern form of DLC.
Dagda Mor I'm gonna do NG+ in Japanese and hope that they get their heads out of their asses and finally release a DLC that gives everyone Swedish Chef/Beaker voices for NG++.
+Dagda Mor Same, it took me my whole damn spring break to finish it. I wanna play it more but I was hoping for new content to be released before I go into NG+
To be fair, he did mess with difficulty, so he could breeze though stuff.
Ironically, this game is the exact same as Yahtzee’s JRPG statement in his Earthbound review. You and your friends kill a god by using the power of friendship to summon Satan to put a bullet in his head.
That's a lot of jrpgs
I love how P5 manages to bring in even the staunchest of RPG critics.
Yahtzee and Dunkey both had to admit this was good.
Yahtzee, just embrace that inner weeb already.....We know you can do it
MultiSharpboy All weebs deserve a lethal injection
CRUMPETS AND TEA
+Geeeee8 They did. With ICO and Shadow of the Colossus.
He's always made subtle references to anime so it's only a matter of time
if those jrpg's have more "life sim" in them, he will.
like he said, he only liked p5 cause it was like "stardew valley" (had "work" and stuff).
"Although having said that, if you're going to make a 60-hour-RPG, have a speck of fucking mercy and have more than one music track for standard battles"
I see that I wasn't the only one learning about the wonderful world of late fees with DVD rentals, because the game didn't want you to bring them back in time.
Let's be real, if we had more time to do more things in one day, the game would be way too easy.
Exactly. It's all about balancing.
Aaron Duran "You should get some rest today."
Let's not do that today.
During my first play through I only had the time to max out like 4 social links and most of them were story based. I maxed out Yusuke, Makoto, Tae, And Morgana. I shouldn't have tried to go after so many at a time.
Pelcogo
Really? Only 4? But like 4 of the characters alone get maxed via story progression. I had honestly managed to get almost every single one maxed by the point of no return. And like 2 others will level up any time you hang out every time, never needing side activities.
I knew getting all of them before new game plus would be impossible but was pleasantly surprised by how many I got.
Most the ones I did fail to max was only because they were late-game additions or had ridiculous requirements (Iwai needing near max guts to even start. Futaba needing near max kindness to start. Haru needing complete max proficiency to continue past level one. Hifumi needing max knowledge near the end).
And I went for too many at a time too. I'm pretty sure I activated every one, even if some never made it past rank 3-4.
Wait "60 hour RPG" dude I'm at 90 hours and just hit november!
yeah, most ppl find it to be 100-120 hours long
The demon negotiation does have dialog that suits each demon based on their personality, but it's not too had to get them to join you anyway, especially with character abilities that add to that. It's no where near RNG that SMT can be when it comes to recruiting demons thankfully.
Do agree on the "Days to complete mission" thing. I'd rather it just tell me the date up to the deadline of when I can send the calling card but I get why they do it as is.
I think in regards to the time slots, I think part of why you spent all of that slot doing that one thing is because it's meant to treat your wandering around and then spending time as the whole slot, just in a very simplified form which looks a bit off when you look deeply into it. It's basically what happens when you implement time slot progression over real time progression I suppose.
Atlus are not that subtle with their symbolism usually, they do have some subtle bits here and there in it as well but they are well known to sledgehammer their messages in which can be a mixed reception kind of thing. I personally prefer it because I don't care for overly vague symbolism but you can easily argue they try too hard with it.
The string of story progression during events like the dungeon completion did surprise me as well. When the plot does get moving, it tends to railroad you more than previous ones I feel, not that it's a bad thing though as the story was interesting enough to where I wanted to keep seeing that progression. But it does make the game feel tightly packed on your first playthrough.
Also I'm surprised Yatzhee actually liked this game, let alone reviewed it but it was an interesting and amusing watch as always.
I figured I'd revisit this review because I remember thinking that I agreed with a lot of the criticisms and wanted to see if there was anything from Persona 5 that didn't get fixed in Persona 5 Royal that I didn't think about or otherwise just missed. Basically every mechanical problem that Yahtzee points out is improved on IMO, and even some of the story problems (specifically villains with no nuance to them) although because the new story stuff is at the very end of Persona 5 Royal your proverbial 'Scooby Gang' does have to run through the full cast of Scooby Doo-tier villains still to GET to the interesting and deep villain in P5R.
Yahtzee was nicer on this game than I expected, not cause it's a bad game I absolutely fucking adore it, but because I know yahtzee's usual attitude towards jrpgs and I'm willing to admit P5 isn't perfect and Yahtzee kinda shreds games for their imperfections usually (in a good way, he's entertaining about it and it's his freaking job.)
Nice-- he squeezed in the ME:A burns here that he couldn't seem to fit in the actual ME:A review
I love how the entire video also sets up to be an incredibly visceral jab at another title. There's something so satisfying about it, like watching a video filmed with a high speed camera of a person you don't like getting punched in the face.
Hahah love the "Oh Mishima, you nelly". So true. He definitely is a nelly.
This game is amazing, but the most amazing thing about it never gets mentioned. There was no day one patch. I just popped it in and started playing. In fact, there hasn't been a patch yet that I'm aware of and its been almost a month. This must EASILY be the most polished AAA game on release in years.
KeystoneHeavy58 of coure it doesn't have a day 1 patch it was released to japan months before international release and was then delayed. it was nice that they gave us free dlc stuff to say sorry
And then factor in the size of the dev team - Atlus only have around 200 staff. Compare that with 800 at Bioware, and 3,000 at Square Enix. I'm glad Atlus are getting exposure, they're an incredible developer. I hope the success of p5 allows them to recruit more staff. And yeah, the fact you could just put in the disk and play without any installation felt like a revelation. It's a good feeling having the complete product on the disc day 1.
Gareth Kent I don't know... Maybe being a small studio gives them more control over the development of the game? I just hope theu don't lose their focus.
It's hard to tell. Atlus USA is owned by SEGA (which might explain the release of Persona Dancing All Night), and more than a few AAA games have been ruined by executive meddling with newly acquired franchises. Persona 5 feels like it had to make concessions to break out of the niche market and appeal to the larger gaming crowd, and certain parts of the story feel very rushed.
Not to say that this is a bad game, but compared to P3 and P4, some parts just don't have the same polish. I guess we'll have to wait for Persona 6 to figure out if this was just a fluke, or if the series is going to start going the way of TH4IF. I really hope not..
The spiders that live in McDonalds cheeseburgers line gets me every time.
Never knew a video like this could ever exist. Seeing your stance on the Persona series...
So props to you.
I can't think of this game without remembering the Gigguk video where he made a bit about the way you can romance one of the teachers with incredible enthusiasm.
Did you forget that you can date your 20-30 year old teacher?
FullBlown StolenMemer who is also the voice of Yukari from P3
+Michael Carrillo And also the voice of Fujiko Mine from Lupin III.
There's a surprisingly low amount of voice actors in the dub community.
FullBlown StolenMemer That's the best part
There's like 3 other adult women you can date too.
Didn't max out any relationships? If you do it with team members they gain a new persona and give you access to special fusions. Plus you get to spend time with them on vacation and holidays where they give you special items. NG+ is supposed to carry over all your social links to make maxing all relationships easy.
How many other games give you an Atomic Popecycle?
Sebastian Abele Also a Wind powered catbus.
As much as I love persona I completely agree about how un-subtle P5 is, especially the main antagonist
I heard the intro to Last Surprise over a thousand times and it never got old
In Spanish it means "person"
In latin it means mask
Pajamapants Jack in this video it means "Persona"
actually, in latin, it means character, but close enough.
Personae I think is the Latin term
Jacob Liddell Mask is a way to call a type of character
Actually, I hate to be that guy but there is a way to figure out what the shadows want you to say. If you go into the analysis screen, you'll see that they have a type of personality. You answer the questions in a way that would appeal to that personality.
While knowing that can help often, sometimes, it's just guesswork.
Yeah, literally each and every site as well as the games own help says that. But you tell me which of "I bonked your mom", "I stay faithful to my waifu" and "You're too tired to do that now, why don't you go to bed?" is the gloomy answer
Too bad the answers rarely seem to actually sync up with what the personality says.
So very funny with the dialogue bits and the imps too, especially the giant king imp! XD
yahtzee approved of my favourite franchise of all time - I can now die happily
Hello Yahtzee, there's a slim chance your going to read this, but I listened to your book "Will Save the Galaxy for Food," through Audible, and thought it was great. It was imaginative, witty and full of more deadpan snarking than one person could reasonabliy hope for. Thank you for your work. :)
"Putting together a Scooby gang..."
Wait, I'm confused, I thought Persona 4 was the one where you solve a murder mystery...
well, 5 does have a van
Haven't watched a Zero Punctuation video in a while and had to check this one out. I was honestly expecting it to get ripped into but it's a pleasant surprise and understand what some of the problems were. I got a kick out of how time seems to hold still when you take the train but your friends stayed glued to your hip for half a day. 'Don't leave me' LMAO
Suddenly this video is relevant again.
A video praising Persona 5 and putting down Mass Effect. This is all I ever wanted.
The way you actually romance the personas is to be like them, that is to say, be like their personality. If you see a persona has the gloomy personality, act gloomy at them and they'll relate to you and join you.
"romance the personas"???
I'd like to see you try and romance Mara
makes me appreciate the slower speed options in the settings.
Great vid.
ahahahaha, 60 hour game. 60 my ass, I'm sitting at almost 80 hours in.
Aaron Reeves 50 hours in, on 8/20. Spent 10 of them just perfecting my Personas.
Only 80, what are you, casual? :^)
lol the game is like 100 hours long
146s exactly clocked my first playthrough, but I'm a fucking collectionist and I have the most broken ass personas that basically and was basically able to 5 shot the final boss with joker.
I beat it at 100.
You make the best reviews
I love chilling w/ my Scooby gang and pretending I'm a good student.
PSA- there's a tutorial hidden away in the menu that explains which types of Shadows like which responses when you're trying to capture them. For example, Gloomy ones like Vague responses, etc.
Would have been great if the game tells you this, but to be honest it's still hard to know which response is what.
I learned that I would hate to go to a Japanese school.
"If only there was more than one battle theme."
Me: _laughs in Persona 5 Royal_
huh, im surprised he liked it, you could say i never saw it coming.
also the morality of what your doing starts getting called into question at around the half way point of the game, but i dont hold it over Yahtzee for not getting that far within his review window.
It only took me 30 something hours to get there
He found some combination of characters and story engaging enough to keep playing it. That's the gist.
i hope he never stops making videos like this