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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @armandotf2
    @armandotf2 2 года назад +11539

    Oh hell nah mot my son.

  • @theflatsixth
    @theflatsixth 2 года назад +5032

    In an alternate universe:
    Mossbag: Here we see sketches for a version of the aspid that shoots three orbs instead of one. This would be terrible, so I'm glad it wasn't added into the game.

    • @CFjimmy
      @CFjimmy 2 года назад +207

      If only...

    • @Vee_Sheep
      @Vee_Sheep 2 года назад +596

      when i first found Primal Aspids in Kingdom's Edge, i thought "people are exaggerating how bad these guys are"
      and then i was dealing with several of them...
      and then i was dealing with several of them while retrying the Colosseum of Fools over and over...
      and then i understood

    • @coolremedy6969
      @coolremedy6969 2 года назад +339

      It would also take several hits to kill, and masterfully maintain its distance while staying in firing range. That sounds ridiculous, so I can see how this one never made it past the concept phase.

    • @theflatsixth
      @theflatsixth 2 года назад +26

      @@coolremedy6969 Lol true

    • @marcellofp7465
      @marcellofp7465 2 года назад +19

      It would be heaven

  • @SonicHaXD
    @SonicHaXD 2 года назад +5551

    I never knew about the "Abyss Theme at 500% speed", got goosebumps listening to that XD

    • @mr.raphael1507
      @mr.raphael1507 2 года назад +84

      I’m glad I wasn’t the only one

    • @nightwatch3889
      @nightwatch3889 2 года назад +129

      I just went there to listen to it and it's so creepy

    • @nelsonmarvelutama5171
      @nelsonmarvelutama5171 2 года назад +24

      AAAAAaaaAAAAAaaaAAAAAaaa..

    • @curseofbinding
      @curseofbinding 2 года назад +63

      Kinda like omori's 'something' but the opposite effect lol

    • @Saltience
      @Saltience 2 года назад +69

      God I wouldn't be able to stand the abyss at all if that was the default music. Gives off that whole "Things are crawling up your back" vibe.

  • @mrtortoise3766
    @mrtortoise3766 2 года назад +1035

    I like how the newspaper editor felt the need to not only add in the knight just floating there but also add a shadow for it

    • @lusalar4463
      @lusalar4463 Год назад +111

      the knight wasnt added,he was always there

    • @apenasumabatata4741
      @apenasumabatata4741 11 месяцев назад +51

      @@lusalar4463 The truth is that the picture was actually meant to be of the Knight, and they just decided to add William and Ari in there cuz why not

    • @prizedbenchreloadedandextreme
      @prizedbenchreloadedandextreme 7 месяцев назад

      Where?

    • @Birbzz
      @Birbzz 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@prizedbenchreloadedandextreme 26:40

    • @prizedbenchreloadedandextreme
      @prizedbenchreloadedandextreme 7 месяцев назад

      @@Birbzz thx

  • @aaronking2020
    @aaronking2020 2 года назад +6488

    "There is infectious air."
    Zote: Don't breathe.
    "Dreams will infect you."
    Zote: Don't dream.

    • @ConstrictorDevlin
      @ConstrictorDevlin 2 года назад +772

      SUN GODDESSES HATE HIM! This bug managed to avoid infection with 2 simple tricks!

    • @darielvillatoro8365
      @darielvillatoro8365 2 года назад +100

      big brain

    • @杀手菜鸟
      @杀手菜鸟 2 года назад +189

      Moths hate this one trick

    • @InsanePigeon
      @InsanePigeon 2 года назад +85

      Clearly Zote should be the hollow knight

    • @e2b265
      @e2b265 2 года назад +112

      @@InsanePigeon Nah. Precept 49: Never get locked in an egg temple in chains in order to contain the orange goop that causes the apocalypse.

  • @Epic_747
    @Epic_747 2 года назад +1707

    mossbag: asks for details about the lions village. Team cherry: full of lions.
    I love team cherry even more now.

    • @Vonias
      @Vonias 2 года назад +83

      If only they were as transparent about Silksong as they were about the Lion Village.

    • @sandorrclegane2307
      @sandorrclegane2307 2 года назад +140

      Fan: Is there a reason why the Pale King is dead in the White Palace?
      Team Cherry: Yes

    • @achairwithinternetaccess996
      @achairwithinternetaccess996 2 года назад +114

      @@sandorrclegane2307
      Fan: ok, but why?
      Team Cherry: because he died

    • @lelinskok8923
      @lelinskok8923 2 года назад +45

      @@Vonias
      mossbag: Any detail about Silksong?
      Team Cherry: There will be silk there. Songs too.

    • @gamingmoyai3950
      @gamingmoyai3950 2 года назад +1

      @@achairwithinternetaccess996
      Fan: but why did he die?
      Team Cherry: he died.

  • @GippyHappy
    @GippyHappy 2 года назад +4970

    HK fandom: "Team Cherry please tell us about the lion village"
    Team Cherry: "There are lions"
    HK fandom: (crying) _"...Thank you"_

    • @perodactyl490
      @perodactyl490 2 года назад +137

      I'm imagining beetle from skyward sword saying "thank you"

    • @lamegourd5260
      @lamegourd5260 2 года назад +121

      HK fandom: “Also, while I’ve got you here, any updates on silksong?”
      Team Cherry:

    • @wolven122
      @wolven122 2 года назад +12

      @Arcana zero Studios 10000 lions

    • @AbzoneGaming
      @AbzoneGaming 2 года назад +19

      @Arcana zero Studios none, Zote the Mighty would though!

    • @Hard2Place
      @Hard2Place 2 года назад +3

      @@perodactyl490 is it the same voice line from wind waker bc that one is absolute gold

  • @basiawojcik3407
    @basiawojcik3407 2 года назад +1797

    The "I made this iceberg" gave me the same vibe as "there is no fridge"

    • @aturchomicz821
      @aturchomicz821 2 года назад +44

      _But what if you close your eyes-_

    • @charliecadet
      @charliecadet 2 года назад +41

      same vibes as the shapeland reveal

    • @Vonias
      @Vonias 2 года назад +109

      "Viewers I haven't been honest with you... I WAS THE ONE WHO BOUGHT THE MCDONALDS EMPLOYEE TRAINING GAME!!!"

    • @emirikyuu7308
      @emirikyuu7308 2 года назад +7

      @@charliecadet bro i was thinking the same exact thing

    • @Masterofcandy4
      @Masterofcandy4 2 года назад +23

      “I LIED!”

  • @SickkNøVa
    @SickkNøVa 2 года назад +11694

    Please give Mossbag silksong before it's too late, he's falling into madness

    • @roasted.cheese
      @roasted.cheese 2 года назад +245

      exactly

    • @coolio6855
      @coolio6855 2 года назад +801

      I mean he made an actual video, he's clearly losing it.

    • @varvarith3090
      @varvarith3090 2 года назад +102

      Relatable.

    • @pepi7404
      @pepi7404 2 года назад +5757

      It's going to be like in a move.
      As he's mining the last shred of content from Hollow Knight, the whole community is watching him with tears in their eyes. He edits the video, gives us one final thumbs up and presses upload as his sanity reserves drop to 0%. The music cuts out. All you hear is a heart beat that gets slower. He closes his eyes. Darkness. And then, bam. A thunderclap rips the clouds asunder and William Pellen shoots down from the sky on moth wings. He catches Mossbag, they embrace each other, William hands him a copy of Sillsong and Mossbag asks "does it ... have ... buzz saws?". "Yes ..." answers William, a tear running down his cheek "... more than you can count."

    • @mossbag69
      @mossbag69  2 года назад +5675

      @@pepi7404 what the fuck

  • @bentonic4998
    @bentonic4998 11 месяцев назад +220

    Zote is the only person ever helped by the idea of "facing depression? just take a walk and feel better!!" He is simply built different.

  • @kaschey6145
    @kaschey6145 2 года назад +4954

    Actually, there might be a very simple explanation for the non-euclidean room in White Palace. What if the entire place is just... circled? You know, like a spiral. After all, we can't see it in 2D perspective if the knight turns left or right from his own view.

  • @shlrup6154
    @shlrup6154 2 года назад +947

    I really like the idea that the jellyfish hold back the infection, because of the added metroid reference, because metroids were also created to fight desease.

    • @theimpostorafungus1213
      @theimpostorafungus1213 2 года назад +65

      more specifically they were made to fight off the X parasite and then were later used to make a vaccine that saved samus from said parasite

    • @LordTactusMe
      @LordTactusMe 2 года назад +30

      Also jellyfish are not affected by the polluted waters.

  • @hephaestus8266
    @hephaestus8266 Год назад +456

    8:21 “Heart” is capitalized in that sign. It is possible that “Hallownest’s Heart is the actual name of the city.

    • @gelatinousjoe7979
      @gelatinousjoe7979 Год назад +84

      That is actually very logical, and why not? Everything else has an extremely straightforward name.

    • @skelomemer
      @skelomemer 10 месяцев назад +23

      wait that actually makes a lot of sense

  • @eleanorcerar6273
    @eleanorcerar6273 2 года назад +604

    The melody that plays on the Pale King's throne isn't just the vessel theme. Underlaid as a counterpoint melody, you can also hear the Pale King's theme (the first thing you hear as you see the Elegy text at the game's start). The two are seamlessly woven together, and I for one take it as Christopher Larkin once again proving himself as a musical-storytelling genius. The Knight is now the new King of Hallownest after receiving the King's Brand, and this melody all but states that explicitly.

    • @TheAdvertisement
      @TheAdvertisement 2 года назад +15

      I was gonna comment that but you beat me to it! Such a cool blend of those two motifs.

    • @KaiserCeaser
      @KaiserCeaser 2 года назад +7

      Yeah the white lady theme and Hornets theme are also both variations of the theme as well

  • @pileofcheese5017
    @pileofcheese5017 2 года назад +748

    about the Willoh-GT connection: as soon as Brumm/Nym leaves the grimm troupe (because it doesn't exist anymore) he loses all of his memories. this could be what happened to Willoh

    • @alyzeaaa
      @alyzeaaa 2 года назад +66

      That's a good obsevration

    • @nightmare4lol
      @nightmare4lol 2 года назад +59

      A brilliant deduction

    • @bell2023
      @bell2023 2 года назад +33

      That makes a lot of sense

    • @mort3562
      @mort3562 2 года назад +18

      Outstanding reasoning

    • @peksix2173
      @peksix2173 2 года назад +21

      Impeccable assessment

  • @forge4273
    @forge4273 2 года назад +630

    5:45 "does this mean the hunter fought the radiance at some point??" *shows the hunters journal text confirming the hunter has no idea what the radiance is*

    • @ziwuri
      @ziwuri Год назад +78

      But it's still kind of strange that there's text under an entry for the Radiance.

    • @lusalar4463
      @lusalar4463 Год назад +57

      i always assume that the hunters journal lets the hunter know what we kill,thats why he talks in misterious ways about some characters@@ziwuri

    • @ziwuri
      @ziwuri Год назад

      I like that theory@@lusalar4463

    • @GeneralTaco155555a
      @GeneralTaco155555a Год назад +91

      ​@@lusalar4463 That was my interpretation as well since the entries are very conversational sounding, as if the Hunter is speaking to the Knight. Maybe lorewise, the knight just goes back to visit the Hunter every once in a while and tell him about its kills
      Another good theory could be that the Hunter just has very loose text only notes that the Knight not only had to translate, but figure out what creatures he was talking about.
      Because you only figure out what he's talking about from experience fighting these creatures, maybe his notes on the Radiance were just speculating about what could have caused the infection, and the Knight is essentially labeling that entry as "The Radiance"

    • @extremepayne
      @extremepayne Год назад +32

      I mean, several journal entries (brooding mawlek and collector iirc) directly state that the Hunter has never encountered those enemies

  • @lmjholland
    @lmjholland 2 года назад +1385

    You can get unique weather underground, han song doon in Vietnam is so large it has its own weather system, so it is feasible that hollow knight is set in a similar setting
    (Edit: spelling)

    • @mossbag69
      @mossbag69  2 года назад +622

      Interesting!

    • @chrismoustakis4500
      @chrismoustakis4500 2 года назад +150

      That's actually very cool, but I've never seen anyone spell feasible as pheasable before, lmaoo

    • @flytheburger2182
      @flytheburger2182 2 года назад +11

      @@chrismoustakis4500 wait how to you spell feasible?

    • @lmjholland
      @lmjholland 2 года назад +57

      Oops, my phone didn't autocorrect it so I assumed it was fine!

    • @getjinxed101
      @getjinxed101 2 года назад +9

      @@flytheburger2182 (Sarcasm) You just spelt it, like bruh

  • @theangrywig3905
    @theangrywig3905 2 года назад +1488

    22:08 actually, that might be easy to explain. Maybe the Grub Mimics aren't mimics at all? They've just gotten a taste for bug flesh and go crazy when you release them as a result.

    • @techpriestemily
      @techpriestemily 2 года назад +59

      I was just thinking that as well.

    • @drewvarner8001
      @drewvarner8001 2 года назад +61

      Then wouldn’t there be empty holes when you get them all?

    • @theangrywig3905
      @theangrywig3905 2 года назад +209

      @@drewvarner8001 they leveled the empty housing for park projects or something idk

    • @drewvarner8001
      @drewvarner8001 2 года назад +30

      @@theangrywig3905 this make sense

    • @zocritter
      @zocritter 2 года назад +44

      @@drewvarner8001 maybe there are holes on the back, and on sides you can’t see :/
      Or maybe even a second ‘nest’ we just don’t see

  • @It-Will-All-Be-Okay-I-Promise
    @It-Will-All-Be-Okay-I-Promise 2 года назад +864

    13:17 Given the shape of the nails littering the trail to his house, and the fact that there’s only a couple characters small enough to be mixed up with the knight, I think it’s probably Sly. He seems like the only person who’d have all those comically large nails to be honed for use, maybe to give to his students as they use similar looking nails.

    • @izthistle6196
      @izthistle6196 Год назад +81

      So that’s where all the geo went to

    • @benblack5126
      @benblack5126 Год назад +44

      I always thought it was husk guards paying for a sharpening.

    • @vukovii
      @vukovii Год назад +39

      i assumed it was one of the brothers, mato or oro, but this makes more sense lol

    • @potatooverlord-avacado7218
      @potatooverlord-avacado7218 Год назад +14

      I always thought it was hornet trying to honour hallownest's infected but I think that's mainly because I met her in city of tears

    • @Techischannel
      @Techischannel Год назад +5

      That Sly shopkeep, so he is the reason!

  • @Vee_Sheep
    @Vee_Sheep 2 года назад +1801

    mossbag: "the Knight can sit on the Pale King's throne and the game plays a secret song"
    Matpat: _write that down, WRITE THAT DOWN_

    • @liinnder
      @liinnder 2 года назад +89

      San's is ness all over again

    • @WilloWik
      @WilloWik 2 года назад +94

      I feel so bad for the guy. There are just some games you can't theorize about thanks to the fans being so cutthroat about the lore. The same thing happened with a science theory about assasin’s creed and I was so frustrated. Guy’s just trying to make fun theories...

    • @Vee_Sheep
      @Vee_Sheep 2 года назад +35

      @@liinnder more like "GAME THEORY: THE KNIGHT is the PALE KING pt. 2 (Things we missed)"

    • @Vee_Sheep
      @Vee_Sheep 2 года назад +158

      @@WilloWik personally, i genuinely dont think that "they're just fun theories" makes that show immune to criticism and scrutiny
      but if its any consolation, i have 0 ill will to Matpat or Game Theory fans. i dont like the show, but i kinda just like jabbing at it sometimes, and im definitely against Matpat getting death threats or dislike bombed for making content hes passionate about

    • @BunsGlazing768
      @BunsGlazing768 2 года назад +100

      @@WilloWik mmm... too be fair, it was a pretty shoddy theory. I do think some people took it waaaay too far with their criticism but the guy really did just come in, announce some hairbrained nonesense which totally disrespects a large portion of the content found in the game, and leave. It was a bad move from both parties in this case.

  • @goldenyak629
    @goldenyak629 2 года назад +667

    Weather systems _can_ form in caves, if the caves are large enough. Also, this is a world where giant wyrm corpses can be the source of strong winds, so the weather in Land of Storms might also be generated by the Gods of Thunder and Rain, even if they're dead.
    Personally, I like the idea that Dirtmouth is underground. Because everything is underground. This world has no surface. It's just underground bug kingdoms forever.

    • @stillmorereviews9114
      @stillmorereviews9114 2 года назад +101

      I enjoy the idea that the entire history of the game, and the game itself, takes place in the course of a week under someone’s backyard

    • @blakeworthvv
      @blakeworthvv 2 года назад +62

      my "theory" (more of an opinion cuz i dont have proof) is that dirtmouth is just the "surface" for the bugs, that doesnt mean its actually on the surface. plus it makes more sense, since this is.. a bug world (+ jellyfish).

    • @sentientwaffle535
      @sentientwaffle535 2 года назад +38

      @@blakeworthvv That's my idea too. It's all about scope. To the bugs of hallownest, who don't stray far from the kingdom, the Huge cave ceiling of Dirtmouth is the surface

    • @payhemseht
      @payhemseht 2 года назад +13

      I like the idea that, at scale, the game is so far in the ground that the Earth's surface is like the edge of the known Universe to us.

    • @ashutoshsamantaray2572
      @ashutoshsamantaray2572 2 года назад +2

      So where is the wind from howling cliffs coming with in such force?

  • @wizardofarts1276
    @wizardofarts1276 Год назад +103

    5:38
    I'd like to imagine that the prey in question decided to autograph the journal and write their final words before we ended them

    • @HeyYouFromThatGame
      @HeyYouFromThatGame Год назад +6

      "Oh no! I'm going to die! Wait, let me write my autograph in that exquisite book you have..."

  • @phoenixman4510
    @phoenixman4510 2 года назад +745

    To me, the Nailsmith was always implying the infected soldiers still brought their nails to him. Quirrel says their training won't have been forgotten, and we see they still patrol the streets the same way they did in life. So it would make sense that they still take their nails to the Nailsmith regularly out of mindless habit like they used to. And Nailsmith just thinks we're one of these soldiers.
    Or at least that's how I see it.

    • @drsmarty6619
      @drsmarty6619 2 года назад +75

      Honestly that seems like a good explanation to me.

    • @Crusader4Eternity
      @Crusader4Eternity 2 года назад +100

      Why would the husks not be hostile to him though? Doesn't the infection cause you to attack anything that is not infected?

    • @drsmarty6619
      @drsmarty6619 2 года назад +50

      @@Crusader4Eternity That's true because of how Myla attacks the Player later on. I don't know then.

    • @mlemmlem9690
      @mlemmlem9690 2 года назад +89

      Honestly I thought he was talking about Quirrel

    • @phoenixman4510
      @phoenixman4510 2 года назад +69

      @@Crusader4Eternity
      I suppose that is a good point. But unless he has some other client(s) we're not aware of, the city soldiers are the only things I can think of.
      I suppose the only reason they don't attack him is that habitual thing of going to him, leaving their nail and going back to patrol? But that doesn't entirely explain it, so I don't really know why they don't attack him.

  • @orange_oldfish
    @orange_oldfish 2 года назад +414

    Hey mossbag, I'm the guy who asked team cherry about the Knight's "canon" name on that mixer stream. I remember asking them why the Knight's pin sold on fangamer is called "The Wanderer Pin" and they responded with the response you showed on screen. Just thought I'd add "Wanderer" to the list of possible names for the Knight.

    • @mossbag69
      @mossbag69  2 года назад +169

      Was gonna mention that, but I think they actually changed the pins on fangamer to call it the Knight

    • @orange_oldfish
      @orange_oldfish 2 года назад +121

      @mossbag So they did! I just checked the website and you're right. However, it does actually still say Wanderer if you look at the top left of the fangamer page, "Home > Hollow Knight > Wanderer Lapel Pin" for the directory thingy.
      I'm guessing Team Cherry asked them to change the name to the Knight but they missed one instance of "Wanderer" in the code. Take a screenshot for a future video before it's too late! I always thought the term "Wanderer" was interesting since it exists in the game for "Wanderer's Journal." Is the Knight considered just another wanderer? Does that make someone like Quirrel a wanderer too?

    • @llucllumador380
      @llucllumador380 2 года назад +17

      @@orange_oldfish so this is confirmed then. WOW

  • @Obi-WanGaming
    @Obi-WanGaming 2 года назад +74

    I can’t help but hear Hornet saying “Get through!”
    It makes alot of sense with the context

  • @soupboy8932
    @soupboy8932 2 года назад +772

    Mossboag has descended into an unholy state of extreme entropy, speeding up the destruction of the universe by untold aeons. Give this man silksong already!

    • @rasul01
      @rasul01 2 года назад +3

      Who Entropy

    • @Stryfe52
      @Stryfe52 2 года назад +11

      @@rasul01 probably some idiot who steals; no dignity.

    • @luci_datum
      @luci_datum 2 года назад +5

      @@rasul01 Entropy - Noun
      A lack of order or predictability; a gradual decline into disorder.

    • @prachetasnayse9709
      @prachetasnayse9709 2 года назад

      @@Stryfe52 yes

    • @destra3231
      @destra3231 2 года назад

      @@rasul01 entropeez nuts lmao

  • @m.s.e.advanced2842
    @m.s.e.advanced2842 2 года назад +2908

    The iceberg will have melted by the time we get Silksong

  • @leewoodrough242
    @leewoodrough242 2 года назад +115

    13:33 I, personaly, think that the nailsmith was talking about Menderbug. Considering mederbug would be the only one roaming around finding things to repair, you would think they found nails, then gave those to the Nailsmith to be honed.

    • @gato7418
      @gato7418 Год назад +38

      a little bit late to the party but i was replaying the game earlier today and at some point in the game before fighting the mantis lords Quirrel tells the knight to get the nail upgraded if he wants to stand a chance against the lords and even tells you where he is located, could it be that the other customer was Quirrel?

    • @thatlittlemonstrosity
      @thatlittlemonstrosity Год назад +21

      some dude made a theory that it’s sly
      he is as small as the knight so smith could’ve mistook them
      sly is the only one who has a taste in comically large nails for his apprentices and himself
      that nail hoarding is probably the reason why sly has a business in the first place, he needs geo to commission the nailsmith

    • @chucklesdeclown8819
      @chucklesdeclown8819 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@gato7418 that makes sense too

    • @ggholdengo
      @ggholdengo Месяц назад

      This might be a strange theory but i like to believe that tiso was the one bringing nails to the nailsmith, as nailsmith's dialogue might hint at, tiso probably brought him multiple nails to sharpen in order to pair with his shield. For one reason or another, tiso probably gave up picking a nail at the end, instead exclusively using his shield in combat.

  • @WilloWik
    @WilloWik 2 года назад +542

    The abyss music is heartbreaking. It just makes me think of how it feels to the void children that weren’t “pure” enough and were destroyed. That cacophony sounds like the sound of thousands of voices crying out in confusion and panic as they’re killed. I want to bring peace to them.

    • @thedepressedweebking9845
      @thedepressedweebking9845 2 года назад +68

      I’m really glad someone else said something about it, it sounds like the screams of the damned and I can almost feel their panic and fear as the father that cursed them from their birth discarded of them like expired milk. Things like this put the Kings unfitness to be a parent in perspective, how he was so concerned with his kingdom that he would sacrifice hundreds, if not thousands of his children to stop it. It’s a bittersweet truth that he feared for his people, who he saw more as his own than his children.

    • @ShiningSpear
      @ShiningSpear 2 года назад +21

      @@thedepressedweebking9845 No cost too great

    • @thedepressedweebking9845
      @thedepressedweebking9845 2 года назад +13

      @@ShiningSpear No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering.

    • @ironfire286
      @ironfire286 2 года назад +28

      @@thedepressedweebking9845 That last line always shivers me. Like "it dont has a voice, so it cant scream in agony when the infection hits it, dont worry about it" Pretty brutal tbh

    • @GoogleUser-ms6hr
      @GoogleUser-ms6hr 2 года назад +6

      A lot of ppl talk about the background noise sounding like discarded vessels but tbh I feel like it's just a byproduct of speeding up (and presumably pitching up) the abyss theme and not actually intentional

  • @overqwilgaming6614
    @overqwilgaming6614 2 года назад +198

    I literally opened youtube thinking “damm I still need to see if anyone made a video on that hollow knight iceberg I saw” and then the first thing I see is the best person for the job

  • @ElleTGC
    @ElleTGC 2 года назад +209

    12:13 How dare mossbag cut it off! The rest of it says
    "On the eighty-fifth day of his unlucky streak, Santiago does as promised, sailing his skiff far beyond the island’s shallow coastal waters and venturing into the Gulf Stream. He prepares his lines and drops them. At noon, a big fish, which he knows is a marlin, takes the bait that Santiago has placed one hundred fathoms deep in the waters. The old man expertly hooks the fish, but he cannot pull it in. Instead, the fish begins to pull the boat.
    Unable to tie the line fast to the boat for fear the fish would snap a taut line, the old man bears the strain of the line with his shoulders, back, and hands, ready to give slack should the marlin make a run. The fish pulls the boat all through the day, through the night, through another day, and through another night. It swims steadily northwest until at last it tires and swims east with the current. The entire time, Santiago endures constant pain from the fishing line. Whenever the fish lunges, leaps, or makes a dash for freedom, the cord cuts Santiago badly. Although wounded and weary, the old man feels a deep empathy and admiration for the marlin, his brother in suffering, strength, and resolve.
    On the third day the fish tires, and Santiago, sleep-deprived, aching, and nearly delirious, manages to pull the marlin in close enough to kill it with a harpoon thrust. Dead beside the skiff, the marlin is the largest Santiago has ever seen. He lashes it to his boat, raises the small mast, and sets sail for home. While Santiago is excited by the price that the marlin will bring at market, he is more concerned that the people who will eat the fish are unworthy of its greatness.
    As Santiago sails on with the fish, the marlin’s blood leaves a trail in the water and attracts sharks. The first to attack is a great mako shark, which Santiago manages to slay with the harpoon. In the struggle, the old man loses the harpoon and lengths of valuable rope, which leaves him vulnerable to other shark attacks. The old man fights off the successive vicious predators as best he can, stabbing at them with a crude spear he makes by lashing a knife to an oar, and even clubbing them with the boat’s tiller. Although he kills several sharks, more and more appear, and by the time night falls, Santiago’s continued fight against the scavengers is useless. They devour the marlin’s precious meat, leaving only skeleton, head, and tail. Santiago chastises himself for going “out too far,” and for sacrificing his great and worthy opponent. He arrives home before daybreak, stumbles back to his shack, and sleeps very deeply.
    The next morning, a crowd of amazed fishermen gathers around the skeletal carcass of the fish, which is still lashed to the boat. Knowing nothing of the old man’s struggle, tourists at a nearby café observe the remains of the giant marlin and mistake it for a shark. Manolin, who has been worried sick over the old man’s absence, is moved to tears when he finds Santiago safe in his bed. The boy fetches the old man some coffee and the daily papers with the baseball scores, and watches him sleep. When the old man wakes, the two agree to fish as partners once more. The old man returns to sleep and dreams his usual dream of lions at play on the beaches of Africa."

    • @sandrolarocca3113
      @sandrolarocca3113 Год назад +10

      Thank you very much😊

    • @Dr.Death8520
      @Dr.Death8520 Год назад +13

      Lions? Like a village of lions? My god it's all connected!

  • @samuelcoen9254
    @samuelcoen9254 2 года назад +506

    The Old Man and the Sea is the story of an epic struggle between an old, seasoned fisherman and the greatest catch of his life. For eighty-four days, Santiago, an aged Cuban fisherman, has set out to sea and returned empty-handed. So conspicuously unlucky is he that the parents of his young, devoted apprentice and friend, Manolin, have forced the boy to leave the old man in order to fish in a more prosperous boat. Nevertheless, the boy continues to care for the old man upon his return each night. He helps the old man tote his gear to his ramshackle hut, secures food for him, and discusses the latest developments in American baseball, especially the trials of the old man’s hero, Joe DiMaggio. Santiago is confident that his unproductive streak will soon come to an end, and he resolves to sail out farther than usual the following day.
    On the eighty-fifth day of his unlucky streak, Santiago does as promised, sailing his skiff far beyond the island’s shallow coastal waters and venturing into the Gulf Stream. He prepares his lines and drops them. At noon, a big fish, which he knows is a marlin, takes the bait that Santiago has placed one hundred fathoms deep in the waters. The old man expertly hooks the fish, but he cannot pull it in. Instead, the fish begins to pull the boat.
    Unable to tie the line fast to the boat for fear the fish would snap a taut line, the old man bears the strain of the line with his shoulders, back, and hands, ready to give slack should the marlin make a run. The fish pulls the boat all through the day, through the night, through another day, and through another night. It swims steadily northwest until at last it tires and swims east with the current. The entire time, Santiago endures constant pain from the fishing line. Whenever the fish lunges, leaps, or makes a dash for freedom, the cord cuts Santiago badly. Although wounded and weary, the old man feels a deep empathy and admiration for the marlin, his brother in suffering, strength, and resolve.
    On the third day the fish tires, and Santiago, sleep-deprived, aching, and nearly delirious, manages to pull the marlin in close enough to kill it with a harpoon thrust. Dead beside the skiff, the marlin is the largest Santiago has ever seen. He lashes it to his boat, raises the small mast, and sets sail for home. While Santiago is excited by the price that the marlin will bring at market, he is more concerned that the people who will eat the fish are unworthy of its greatness.
    As Santiago sails on with the fish, the marlin’s blood leaves a trail in the water and attracts sharks. The first to attack is a great mako shark, which Santiago manages to slay with the harpoon. In the struggle, the old man loses the harpoon and lengths of valuable rope, which leaves him vulnerable to other shark attacks. The old man fights off the successive vicious predators as best he can, stabbing at them with a crude spear he makes by lashing a knife to an oar, and even clubbing them with the boat’s tiller. Although he kills several sharks, more and more appear, and by the time night falls, Santiago’s continued fight against the scavengers is useless. They devour the marlin’s precious meat, leaving only skeleton, head, and tail. Santiago chastises himself for going “out too far,” and for sacrificing his great and worthy opponent. He arrives home before daybreak, stumbles back to his shack, and sleeps very deeply.
    The next morning, a crowd of amazed fishermen gathers around the skeletal carcass of the fish, which is still lashed to the boat. Knowing nothing of the old man’s struggle, tourists at a nearby café observe the remains of the giant marlin and mistake it for a shark. Manolin, who has been worried sick over the old man’s absence, is moved to tears when he finds Santiago safe in his bed. The boy fetches the old man some coffee and the daily papers with the baseball scores, and watches him sleep. When the old man wakes, the two agree to fish as partners once more. The old man returns to sleep and dreams his usual dream of lions at play on the beaches of Africa.

    • @mabimabi212
      @mabimabi212 2 года назад +4

      Holy shit did you make this? You did a bloody well job!

    • @mr.krouton
      @mr.krouton 2 года назад +75

      @@mabimabi212 Its the book summary from sparknotes lol

    • @mabimabi212
      @mabimabi212 2 года назад +10

      @@mr.krouton aww that's why it was a good summary

    • @pepperkelleher3594
      @pepperkelleher3594 2 года назад +2

      Thank you tho

    • @cheesusabidas77
      @cheesusabidas77 2 года назад

      thank you

  • @rabbidDuck29
    @rabbidDuck29 2 года назад +846

    i thought the reason dirtmouth was so dark despite "being on the surface" is bc when radiance got sealed away she took the light with her, plunging the land into eternal darkness where time stood still

    • @improbableopera793
      @improbableopera793 2 года назад +122

      She does kinda seem to be the sun

    • @qwertyuiop8795
      @qwertyuiop8795 2 года назад +116

      mfw people forget the mama moth so she makes the sun not exist

    • @rabbidDuck29
      @rabbidDuck29 2 года назад +109

      @Hooty HOOT HOOT bro that'd be one dirty ass couch

    • @lamegourd5260
      @lamegourd5260 2 года назад +70

      @Hooty HOOT HOOT Entire game of hollow knight just takes place in between two cushions. Randomly at some point somebody reached down their to get their phone, sees what’s happening down there, and sets the couch on fire in their front yard.
      The last moments of hollownest. Even the destruction of the radiance couldn’t forestall Dave setting his couch on fire.

    • @JM-us3fr
      @JM-us3fr 2 года назад +14

      I’m pretty sure Team Cherry said the game takes place during one long night. So of course there’s no sunlight.

  • @CharlesAngelus
    @CharlesAngelus 2 года назад +38

    Willoh doesn't have the same eye lines on her mask as the Grimsteeds or most of the Grimm Troupe do, so if she does come from the troupe, it's possible she somehow freed herself and lost her memories like Nymm, hence why she has nothing to say about the Grimmchild.
    On top of this, I like to imagine she used to be the steed of the dead troupe member in Howling Cliffs, and that by freeing herself she left him to die there with no means to light the lantern.

  • @maxhay9098
    @maxhay9098 2 года назад +216

    Mossbag's throwaway insults are always my favorite part of his videos, his delivery is on point.
    "Why is the Brooding Mawlek brooding? Because all its friends are dead."
    "Maybe his bad eyesight is what got him killed."

  • @WhitePaintbrush
    @WhitePaintbrush 2 года назад +256

    Interesting note about the little melody that plays when you sit on the throne: it’s actually the Hollow Knight/Vessel theme _and_ the White Palace/White Lady theme at the same time.

    • @thedepressedweebking9845
      @thedepressedweebking9845 2 года назад +45

      That would be very in line with the scene. It signifies how you, a vessel who hath crawled out of the depths of your birthplace, have ascended into the role of king. You now care for the land fraught with death and infection and only you can bring Hallownest back to it’s former glory. The music shows the importance of the vessel and the white palace, letting the player know that these two things are now united.

  • @pogies
    @pogies Год назад +16

    At 11:41, the reason I think why The Knight doesn't tilt his head while sitting on the throne is to mimic how the Pale King was always watching over Hallownest while it was under the Radiance's influence.

  • @croma2068
    @croma2068 2 года назад +175

    9:48 The mode is probably called Steel Soul in reference to the Iron Man challenge, where you beat a game without losing or dying once. It's named that because you have to play the game so well that you're indestructible, like an iron man.

  • @annaarkless5822
    @annaarkless5822 2 года назад +929

    i dont think anyone has really looked into the lore implications of the 420 geo drops. does this imply weed exists in hollow knight? is the gorgeous husk actually a stoner? i expect a 40 minute video into these questions, thank you mossbag

    • @yourresidentanon4169
      @yourresidentanon4169 2 года назад +41

      Actually I’ll have you know the gorgeous husk was a beauty pageant Queen who had a stage mom and turned to drugs to cope. /j

    • @mightyloa5704
      @mightyloa5704 2 года назад +13

      Well the bugs at the Basin sure look... Stoned!!!

    • @31-2-5
      @31-2-5 2 года назад +6

      @@mightyloa5704 que laugh track

    • @clutzicon8142
      @clutzicon8142 2 года назад +1

      Mossbag we need this

    • @yourresidentanon4169
      @yourresidentanon4169 2 года назад

      @Deadpoppin meh, whenever I think a joke could possibly come off the other way as being sincere (or in this case, seeming like a know-it-all), it doesn’t hurt to add a tone indicator

  • @GreenchildHk
    @GreenchildHk 2 года назад +47

    free tridents and torchs for mossbag sacrifice: 🔱🔱🔱🔥🔥🔥

  • @AshenDust_
    @AshenDust_ 2 года назад +491

    For the Lost Kin Arena, maybe a boss’s dream arena isn’t where they died, but the place they had the strongest connection too. Soul Tyrant was super dedicated to his work in the Soul Sanctum, and False Knight might have lived just above his area, where his brothers mourn him. If Broken Vessel died coming back into the abyss instead of leaving it, then maybe it went to the Forgotten Crossroads or City of Tears, lived there for a while, grew larger, and then came back to the Abyss, to see if any of it’s siblings had survived, but died in the Ancient Basin

    • @ahzayoc1207
      @ahzayoc1207 2 года назад +68

      I think the lost kin arena is just a version of the broken vessel arena that isn’t worn down. After all, the broken vessel arena has multiple arches in the background, similar to the lost kin.

    • @J.R.Unbound
      @J.R.Unbound 2 года назад +59

      This is honestly a good idea! The White Defender fight strengthens this for me, due to that seemingly taking place in the white palace.
      Also, maybe the Lost Kin thinks of the Crossroads since that's where the Radiance (the one controlling them) or hollow knight (their sibling that may have also called out to the knight) resides. It could also be a bit of foreshadowing, as the crossroads gets infected if you beat the Broken Vessel.

    • @serraramayfield9230
      @serraramayfield9230 2 года назад

      @@J.R.Unbound BV didn't grow at all

    • @KINGSNAKE-lh7oe
      @KINGSNAKE-lh7oe 2 года назад +26

      @@serraramayfield9230 No, the Broken vessel is bigger then the player character, the young Hollow Knight as seen in the birthplace cutscene, and the other vessel corpses shown in the abyss, implying that it grew at some point. It may be a bit hard to notice because it remains hunched over for the majority of the fight.

    • @serraramayfield9230
      @serraramayfield9230 2 года назад +4

      @@KINGSNAKE-lh7oe It only seems that way because of variation in head size. When looking at the countless vessel corpses in the Abyss and their head shapes/sizes you'll realize that this doesn't mean they grew (besides the fact that there's nothing TO grow naturally in a vessel as they have no organs), and that there are vessel corpses like Broken Vessel in the Abyss. The only Vessel which was grown period (artificially) was THK, as according to the Pure Vessel description they were "raised and trained to prime form". Considering who did that act in the first place - Pale King and White Lady - whatever growth that happened to them wasn't because of something inherent to the Vessel.

  • @jstar3382
    @jstar3382 2 года назад +131

    I knew that he made this the moment that he mentioned the Treasury Tunnel. No one but him would know that, and when he said to check the math I knew it

  • @bleenyx
    @bleenyx 2 года назад +171

    he is suspiciously not uploading anymore did he sacrifice
    himself?

    • @MasterIsabelle
      @MasterIsabelle 2 года назад +10

      His sanity yes
      His duty no

    • @robert.7230
      @robert.7230 2 года назад +1

      He didn't. However I believe it would have been an honourable sacrifice.

  • @peterdavis7695
    @peterdavis7695 2 года назад +617

    16:54 - my personal head canon is that this is the guy who made the Hollow Knight's nail, and the Hollow Knight killed him at his request once it was complete.
    There's a nice symmetry here - the ancient nail smith created a pure nail after forging many, many imperfect nails that he discarded.
    The imperfect nails became the Quick Slash charm - something is, perhaps, far more powerful than the weapon he deemed perfect.
    Meanwhile, the Pale King cast countless imperfect vessels the abyss, until he created his one, seemingly pure vessel.
    One of these vessels came back and surpassed the Hollow Knight, and all of the Pale King's expectations. Instead of simply sealing the Radiance away, they destroyed it utterly.
    Also, our weapon didn't start perfect (as far as we know) - instead, it was an old and battered weapon, reforged to perfection. Appropriate choice for a seemingly imperfect vessel.
    Another theory I have - more of a hypothesis at best, really - is that Pale Ore is actually chitin from the Pale King's old body. He hollowed out - ha - his cast off shell and used the material for all sorts of things. Like weapons...and maybe the Kingsmoulds? Maybe the masks the vessels wear, too. Possibly his entire palace, even! The void seems like it's a pretty corrosive substance, you would need something pretty durable to withstand it...

    • @hollowshield2315
      @hollowshield2315 2 года назад +28

      wow, this is a great theory that I hadn't even considered or seen anywhere. props to you

    • @MashuSlyferiux
      @MashuSlyferiux 2 года назад +4

      It can't be because the ancient Nailsmith it's an ancient civilization member, so he died waaaayyy before Hallownest

    • @peterdavis7695
      @peterdavis7695 2 года назад +29

      ​@@MashuSlyferiux Wiki: "These ancient remnants have no inherent connection to present-day Hallownest, but it is unknown if they are related to the ancient civilisation."
      I read the entry on this guy, and I think it could go either way.

    • @robert.7230
      @robert.7230 2 года назад +2

      It does sound cool but the pale ore is definitely not from the cast of shell as other commenter have said

    • @peterdavis7695
      @peterdavis7695 2 года назад +2

      @@robert.7230 Yeah, I've got no evidence of that one.

  • @epser5842
    @epser5842 2 года назад +279

    Usually, icebergs are trash and made by people who permanently reside in the first layer, but this one was really incredible and made by someone who knows his shit.
    Really impressive

    • @wippo42
      @wippo42 2 года назад +32

      Cos mossbag made it, at this point he might know more about hk than team cherry

    • @Winasaurus
      @Winasaurus 2 года назад +8

      @@jerry2472 He IS stevepuyo96.

    • @jerry2472
      @jerry2472 2 года назад +1

      @@Winasaurus ong...

    • @bell2023
      @bell2023 2 года назад +3

      @@jerry2472 He says later in the video that he made that up and that he was the one (with help) to make it

    • @jerry2472
      @jerry2472 2 года назад +1

      @@bell2023 nvm on my original comment then im stupid

  • @Nightsound_21
    @Nightsound_21 Год назад +18

    17:08 actually, if you use benchwarp mode to get out of godhome in godseeker mode, as you already have all 3 vessels, if you get 3 more fragments you can actually get a 4th one

  • @Hergotzer
    @Hergotzer 2 года назад +221

    I always understood Nailsmith's dialogue of "bringing another nail to sharpen" being about not one bug visiting him often but many different bugs bringing him nails to be worked on. His lines can be interpreted as "another bug bringing another nail" and his line about "returning later, if you're still breathing" can be understood as either friendly banter for an old acquaintance, or a throwaway line for a client trying to survive in Hallownest among many.
    It's possible the many infected knightbugs strolling around the City of Tears might be the ones bringing him nails, in fact. After all, even when infected it's clear those bugs are still following some resemblance of their old lives. It wouldn't be out of the question one of their imprinted habits would be to take their nails to be sharpened every now and then. That may also be why he's still alive, because the infected soldiers won't attack him.
    All of this would explain why he doesn't bring up the client again; he wasn't talking about any one in particular, just thinking you were just another mindless husk.

    • @fglm0017
      @fglm0017 2 года назад +24

      I always thought it meant Mato or Oro, and possibly Sheo and Sly, but that's unlikely due to Sheo's dialogue and Sly having put down his nail permanently long ago. But with the training the nailmasters clearly do, its very likely that the edges of their nails would dull and need honed. And its pretty acceptable that they would have multiple that need sharpened. As far as the infected knights doing it...it's unclear. It seems pretty obvious that they attack any non-infected bug on sight (they apparently attack Quirrel, Zote, and Tiso, and Emilitia mentions others having died), but we also have evidence of infected individuals who are able to retain some sentience, at least before the infection grows too bad and kills them. So I can't dismiss that possibility at all.

    • @krisw9526
      @krisw9526 2 года назад +7

      @@fglm0017 It seems the nail smith only talks about one person and Oro would be the only one to actually go out so that makes even more sense

    • @connerhursh4204
      @connerhursh4204 2 года назад +13

      @@krisw9526 I always assumed it was Quirrel since he is the one who tells you to seek out a nailsmith before trying to fight the mantis lords.

    • @condor2279
      @condor2279 2 года назад +2

      I think it was Quirrel.

    • @condor2279
      @condor2279 2 года назад +1

      @@connerhursh4204 Yeah, it explains how he knew about the Nailsmith if he'd been.

  • @lachlankidd6517
    @lachlankidd6517 2 года назад +306

    The most disturbing part of the Treasury Tunnel photo is the Knight's shadow appearing on the wall

  • @Jellyfish146
    @Jellyfish146 2 года назад +486

    Hey Mossy sorry to hear you're being sacrificed soon, it'll be worth it though.

    • @Bubblegum-Cupcake
      @Bubblegum-Cupcake Год назад +1

      …Did I miss part of the video?

    • @Jellyfish146
      @Jellyfish146 Год назад +19

      @Bubblegum Cupcake -Alt- there was a meme going around that the only say we were gonna get Silksong was to sacrifice Mossbag. I guess the threats worked, but it's still a possibility until we actually have silksong.

    • @lonestarr1490
      @lonestarr1490 Год назад +7

      @@Jellyfish146 Well, given that your original comment is now over a year old, I reckon that "soon" has quite an elusive meaning when it comes to Hollow Knight. Be it the release of Silksong, the pending sacrifice of certain youtubers, or new entries in the blog section of the official Team Cherry website.

    • @jjayplayz
      @jjayplayz Год назад

      Wait but silksongs already out tho

    • @Jack.0ctober
      @Jack.0ctober Год назад +2

      ​@@jjayplayzUh, no... it's not, unfortunately

  • @sophiesappho
    @sophiesappho 2 года назад +165

    Okay Team Cherry's response to your lion village inquiry actually cracked me up. And that twist ending! Never saw it coming.

  • @shinytentacruel2062
    @shinytentacruel2062 2 года назад +226

    I always imagined that the nailsmith is confusing the Knight for Hornet, who has that needle weapon and hints at a familial relation to the Knight. I imagine that as one of the only remaining "main character" survivors still in Hollownest, that this dialogue was included to show that she is protecting it to some degree, returning occasionally to the nailsmith to have her weapon honed or replaced.

    • @michaellayard5045
      @michaellayard5045 2 года назад +22

      But the nailsmith specifically refers to the weapon he made for the mysterious person as a nail, which hornet doesn't use

    • @chees2
      @chees2 2 года назад +50

      It might be quirrel since he tells you about the nailsmith i think in the fungal wastes

    • @skillsharekirby2048
      @skillsharekirby2048 2 года назад +24

      @@chees2 if you dreamnail Quirrel there, he specifically questions why he knows about the nailsmith, so it probably isn't him

    • @chees2
      @chees2 2 года назад +1

      @@skillsharekirby2048 oh

    • @skillsharekirby2048
      @skillsharekirby2048 2 года назад +5

      @@chees2 dw you pretty much have to grind to get dreamnail before claw

  • @ultraquake7170
    @ultraquake7170 2 года назад +37

    Mossbag the entire hk memes subreddit wants to sacrifice you

  • @MNTNPG
    @MNTNPG 2 года назад +197

    It wasn't mentioned in the iceberg, but a piece of trivia that I've never really heard people talk about is that, according to one of the developer notes, apparently feet don't exist in the Hollow Knight universe

  • @cleinden8397
    @cleinden8397 2 года назад +24

    When hornet saves the knight from sealed vessel I always thought she was trying to say "get down", like as a warning she was charging in

  • @frenchwaffl
    @frenchwaffl 2 года назад +191

    Having read the entirety of The Old Man and The Sea by Ernest Hemmingway, I can also confirm that the fact that The Knight does not tilt his head on the Pale Kings throne does indeed remind me of The Old Man and The Sea as well as the fact that it means nothing whatsoever

  • @blank4305
    @blank4305 2 года назад +129

    17:08 There is a little bit more to say about that fourth soul vessel, I think! I watched a stream of Blue_SR where he messes with the game to add supplementary soul vessel fragments, and it turns out that when he picks up enough of them, he gets a functional fourth soul vessel. So the source code for that is still present in the finished game!

    • @VexxHelss
      @VexxHelss 2 года назад +5

      Likely those fragments reside in the eliminated zone, so they got cut out altogether.

    • @phoenixwithahalfofdragon936
      @phoenixwithahalfofdragon936 2 года назад +6

      Yeah, if you give yourself the 3 vessels with the debug mod and find 3 vessel fragments you unlock a fourth

  • @scratchgd5604
    @scratchgd5604 2 года назад +18

    16:42 this actually makes a lot of sense. actually fighting a vessel makes way more sense than one just appearing, and also broken vessel does have some kind of dash ability like the mothwing cloak

  • @willhuman641
    @willhuman641 2 года назад +118

    Only after watching this video and counting every time Mossbag brought up “cut content”, have I finally realized why Silk Song is taking so long.

  • @misterfister5810
    @misterfister5810 2 года назад +340

    9:03
    “Mmrmm... My accordion is made from parts of a rare grub. A bit morbid perhaps, mm... but the highest quality..
    I suppose I can understand why visitors would mistake it for a living organism… but it’s been dead for over two centuries..”
    -cut brumm dialogue

    • @maxuni6651
      @maxuni6651 2 года назад +21

      THATS WORSE TBH

    • @grey7271
      @grey7271 2 года назад +19

      where did you get this?

    • @Scriblyn
      @Scriblyn Год назад +8

      Source?

    • @ricardobr1493
      @ricardobr1493 Год назад +23

      @@maxuni6651 its not, the bugs dead, its better than brumm torturing a innocent bug because of haha funni sound

  • @BX--nq6gf
    @BX--nq6gf 2 года назад +30

    The hunter never fought the radiance
    The journal entry on it is only talking about the infection in hollownest, he even says he dosent know what the source is

  • @arty_mc_artist
    @arty_mc_artist 2 года назад +118

    Willoh could have just forgotten about the troupe, since I'm pretty sure the accordion guy doesn't remember the troupe either once he's free. But if he does remember and I'm just dumb, then yeah I'd agree. I haven't been able to free him personally yet, so I'm not familiar with his dialogue

    • @MaximEyes
      @MaximEyes 2 года назад +19

      He has no real recollection of while he was in the troupe, just some vague sense of deja vu sometimes.

    • @blakeworthvv
      @blakeworthvv 2 года назад +13

      like the other person said, they basically dont remember their past.
      i also like the idea (that i came up with) that the tent actually belongs to the bug in the same room as willoh (secret part of it, double jump to the right of where willoh is eating).
      either way, its interesting.

  • @LotteLattes
    @LotteLattes 2 года назад +539

    I always thought hornet said "get down" when she flies in to help with the knight it would make sense as she does chuck her weapon right over your head lol.

    • @el_psy_canguri
      @el_psy_canguri 2 года назад +2

      But, how i get her help?

    • @ZomBkiller115
      @ZomBkiller115 2 года назад +33

      @@el_psy_canguri Spoilers obviously: You need to fight Hornet in Kingdoms Edge and continue past her to get the Kings Brand. Then you need to visit the White Lady in the Queens Gardens and then the Pale King's corpse in the White Palace to get both halves of the Kingsoul charm. Then you need to go to the abyss at the bottom of the ancient basin and enter the birthplace. After you do all of this, Hornet will be standing in the black egg temple and will join you during the fight.

    • @el_psy_canguri
      @el_psy_canguri 2 года назад +2

      @@ZomBkiller115 thanks for the help but i go down in the abyss for the hearth void?

    • @bagelbramble7335
      @bagelbramble7335 Год назад +23

      Unless she's hiding a secret Scottish heritage, she definitely does not say "down".

    • @silverdrago6399
      @silverdrago6399 Год назад +8

      I interpret it as "get through," as if telling the knight to use the dream nail in order to enter the mind of the hollow knight

  • @patrickstonecrusher
    @patrickstonecrusher 2 года назад +36

    Pressed the 'Sacrifice' button

  • @connorevans104
    @connorevans104 2 года назад +132

    HOLD ON YOU DIDNT NOTICE.
    The “royal arrangement of the hollow Knight theme is actual TWO themes/melodies playing at the same time” the other of which I’ll call the pale theme. It plays during the white lady’s theme, the start of the game, in the white palace and has a brief reference in hornets theme as well. This signifies how you serve the role as the vessel, brethren to the hollow Knight that the pale king used to.

  • @toastedbred2961
    @toastedbred2961 2 года назад +94

    The Abyss Theme one completely blew my mind. how does this game keep surprising me

  • @alessandrotulipani1807
    @alessandrotulipani1807 2 года назад +18

    silksong will be our soon mossbag, you can run but you can't hide

  • @Barmem
    @Barmem 2 года назад +63

    I was 100% sure you made that iceberg after that tunnel entry.

  • @bloom1351
    @bloom1351 2 года назад +71

    13:30 maybe the client was actually quirel since he cares about his nail so much, and he also recommends visiting the nail smith to sharpen your nail if you lose to the mantis lords.

    • @ReeversUhHuh
      @ReeversUhHuh 2 года назад +14

      Quirrel mention that he heard about a nailsmith at the mantis village, and the nailsmith seems to have honed a lot fo nail for that person so i don't think quirrel would had the time to get a lot of nail honed (for some reason?) in the little time from mantis village and CoT, but maybe the person who gets nail honed by the nailsmith is the one who told squirrel about the nailsmith, since quirrel says he heard about it, that means theres an uninfected bug that knows about the nailsmith somewhere, so that would make sense

    • @rua5910
      @rua5910 2 года назад +15

      @@ReeversUhHuh squirrel

    • @ReeversUhHuh
      @ReeversUhHuh 2 года назад +8

      Nobody gonna talk about how Bloom also misspelled « quirrel » but they have a 1/1 quirrel misspelled ratio while I have only 1/4 of my quirrel misspelled

    • @rua5910
      @rua5910 2 года назад +1

      @@ReeversUhHuh fair enough

  • @josephdavison4189
    @josephdavison4189 2 года назад +39

    I think a reasonable guess to the city of tears name can be deduced from dirtmouth. It’s nearer to the surface and is located at the entrance, or “mouth” of hallownest. The city of tears is considered the heart of hollownest. And is near a famous lake. So a reasonable guess would be lakeheart.

  • @ronniewhitedx
    @ronniewhitedx 2 года назад +151

    Silksong should be the very bottom of the iceberg as for all we know its just simple legend...Myth even. I believe it represents all the friends we managed to make along the way. (:

    • @tchekoslovaqueancestral6747
      @tchekoslovaqueancestral6747 2 года назад +3

      Bruh watcha sayin Silksong is real I played it

    • @ngmonster1017
      @ngmonster1017 2 года назад +12

      That backwards smiley face is the worst thing I have ever seen. It's so ominous.

    • @shakkoryu
      @shakkoryu 2 года назад +2

      Don't worry man, in the dark souls community we thought the same about Elden Ring

  • @1samper122
    @1samper122 2 года назад +786

    But, if you made the iceberg, did you intentionally miscount the sawblades in white palace? Or is there another significance of 249?

    • @hazmatbp
      @hazmatbp 2 года назад +39

      He says this a couple of times, he didn't make the iceberg. Some guy on Reddit did

    • @evanolsen6925
      @evanolsen6925 2 года назад +171

      @@hazmatbp No, he made it with an unpaid actor.

    • @serraramayfield9230
      @serraramayfield9230 2 года назад +218

      @@hazmatbp I'm a mod of Mossbag's discord, he did in fact make this and we were told to keep it secret.

    • @hazmatbp
      @hazmatbp 2 года назад +3

      @@serraramayfield9230 ok that clears that up

    • @fig4714
      @fig4714 2 года назад +2

      @@serraramayfield9230 🧢

  • @yharr3789
    @yharr3789 2 года назад +93

    I hope mossbag bought a really good home security system. You should never underestimate the power of impatient HK fans

  • @Wakeful_mistake
    @Wakeful_mistake 2 года назад +31

    Dang it. You actually tricked me into reading the entire bit about the old man and the sea

  • @aosevenvultures5368
    @aosevenvultures5368 2 года назад +71

    I like how mossbag releases a video every few weeks when I'm finnaly at my lowest point and gives me a dopamine fix just in time to get me to keep going until silksong. And the anxiety it causes me to wait for it

  • @nataliem5425
    @nataliem5425 2 года назад +16

    16:15 it's possible her memory of the Grimm troupe was wiped, similar to brumm

  • @e-moon4438
    @e-moon4438 2 года назад +121

    Been waiting for this since I saw it on Twitter.

  • @creditsunknown7974
    @creditsunknown7974 2 года назад +94

    Ive always though that the Hunters journals arent just about the creatures, for example, they speak about allowing the infection to enter their body on the Traitor lords segement, not actually talking about the mantises. The same can be said for the radiance, the Hunter never mentions the fluffy moth gf, but instead the concept of the infection and the light it gives.

  • @tehardegames
    @tehardegames Год назад +8

    Hey about the cave paintings mentioned at 23:40. My friends uncle has a friend who has a uncle who has a son who worked at this game. The paintings would all be of Zote, he would tell you something verry important. They had to remove it from the game because people would stop playing the game to stare at the Zote paintings for days none stop.

  • @tabeatamm3594
    @tabeatamm3594 2 года назад +43

    Icebergs are always weird, because usually there is stuff on every level that I know about, but also some that I don't know about, even on the surface level.

  • @plasmetal8225
    @plasmetal8225 2 года назад +307

    Here are my thoughts on some of the more "unusual" entries, two in particular.
    Hunter fought Radiance: The Hunter likely never fought Radiance given her state within the Hollow Knight. It's probably just him writing about the Infection instead. The jorunal states _"The plague, the infection, the madness that haunts the corpses of Hallownest... the light that screams out from the eyes of this dead Kingdom. What is the source? I suppose mere mortals like myself will never understand."_ This never indicates that the Hunter fought the Radiance physically. Maybe, like Cornifer and Ogrim, the Hunter's will was strong enough to resist the Radiance.
    Nailsmith's Client: I'm not too confident about this one, but I think that two good candidates for being the Nailsmith's client are Markoth and Xero. The Nailsmith says _"Have you brought me another nail to be honed? Leave it on the ground and return later, if you're still breathing."_ This implies that the client likely owns more than one nail. After all, the amount of nails left around the Nailsmith's place likely indicate that they either use nails as a throwing weapon or they are in need of a more powerful nail. If the former is the case, then that would likely be the two dream warriors. If the latter is the case, then it may likely be Sly or the other Nailmasters. If not any of them, it may just be some other unnamed character.
    I'm not 100% certain about these, but hopefully they're decent ideas of what may have happened.

    • @demetria-n
      @demetria-n 2 года назад +9

      My personal theory is that it's the bug sly mentions when infected, because we don't know much about the character ( I believe named Esmy tho) I can't be proven wrong yet XD

    • @mlemmlem9690
      @mlemmlem9690 2 года назад +17

      My theory is that the bug that often visits the Naismith is Quirrel. He's the one who tells you to visit him to hone your nail for the dangers ahead whe you go straight to the mantis village. As for Esmy(spelling? Unsure how its spelled) I believe that they're the bug corpse outside of Oro's house on Kingdom's Edge.

    • @dadalikalama
      @dadalikalama 2 года назад +11

      @@mlemmlem9690 the punching ball outside oro's house is just a great hopper wearing nailmaster's clothes. Probably Oro being angry at his brothers or idk there are some sad stories going with them we don't really know about (sorry for my bad english btw)

    • @dadalikalama
      @dadalikalama 2 года назад

      There is also a character with multiple blades in the spirit glade

    • @mlemmlem9690
      @mlemmlem9690 2 года назад +4

      @@dadalikalama it has dreamnail dialouge that matches with Sly mentioning how all of them, including Esmy, were travelling together at one point b4 he fell into a Radiance haze and the other brothers split apart, but Esmy is nowhere to be found. That's mostly why I figure it might be the corpse, I theorized that Esmy might have fallen to the Radience, attacked the group, been killed by Oro and then the group fractured apart. But thats just my theory.

  • @starterking
    @starterking 2 года назад +14

    well mossbag I guess there is something new to add to this iceberg now

  • @Ani
    @Ani 2 года назад +1262

    I've seen a ton of HK icebergs and generally can get quite deep into them - but this one absolutely stumped me when you posted it on twitter. I barely got to the 4th level!
    (edit)
    I had a few thoughts about the stuff in this video - my theory for why the Hunter knows of the Radiance is that it would have had to "fight" the radiance to remain uninfected, and since we see from NPCs like Myla that the Radiance directly talks to those she infects, I think it's likely that when the Radiance was trying to infect the Hunter, it learnt what it does about the Radiance before finally killing it.
    Additionally, I'm not sure how viable this theory is, but I think it's a neat little detail that the knight (who, by definition, has no mind) is able to so easily use soul - in a way that other bugs could only dream of - because it doesn't have anything that needs to be reformed like the members of the Soul Sanctum.

    • @1tonsongaming78
      @1tonsongaming78 2 года назад +36

      That last point about the knight's ability to use soul, ya! I had never thought of that! That would make quite a bit if sense.

    • @Oscar97o
      @Oscar97o 2 года назад +11

      The knight actually has a mind, but it can't talk so nobody would know.

    • @irakyl
      @irakyl 2 года назад +25

      Team Cherry does a pretty good job tying lore in together with gameplay, but the hunter's journal is just a mistake they made. Even if you explain the radiance, there are still so many other enemies the hunter has no business knowing about, like white palace inhabitants. If team cherry had juts rephrased the hunter's journal as "write notes on enemies" instead of "decipher the hunter's notes on enemies" we wouldn't have this problem. Like the knight can draw its own maps, writing isn't too much a stretch.
      How would the hunter know his journal is complete anyway? How does one know a list is exhaustive? 🤔
      Once you start over analysing gameplay mechanics, nothing makes sense.

    • @leomclaughlinfrancoeur7546
      @leomclaughlinfrancoeur7546 2 года назад +50

      @@irakyl What you point out is quite true, in general, but since we can assume the Hunter is very, *very* old, it would make perfect sense that he was around during the Pale King's reign, and thus maybe had a tussle or two with the palace guard, which I assume already existed at that time. Also, he seemingly got bored enough to basically go "screw this, I'm taking a nap for the rest of my existence", meaning he had most likely well and truly run out of new things to add to his journal.

    • @leif4698
      @leif4698 2 года назад +6

      About the Hunter, the theory that he fought back against the Radiance seems unlikely. Since there are no bugs that can do that, not even the Hollow Knight, I think it's impossible to fight back, but I don't know. Interesting observation though!

  • @creditsunknown7974
    @creditsunknown7974 2 года назад +44

    Great video! Reminds of The Old Man and the Sea by Ernest Hemmingway!

  • @jedediahhopkins6051
    @jedediahhopkins6051 2 года назад +32

    Mossbag, we are here to collect our sacrifice

  • @erby3027
    @erby3027 2 года назад +28

    I always thought the "other client" of the Nailsmith was Sly, despite it not being mentioned anywhere
    I just like to think he brings around a boatload of nails to be sharpened each week or something

  • @carriganreilly
    @carriganreilly 2 года назад +35

    i’d like to believe that The Knight’s internal true name, is still Hungry Knight

  • @samspielmann7704
    @samspielmann7704 2 года назад +7

    Last upload two months ago, maybe they did sacrifice mossbag for silksong...

  • @thibaultquartier4794
    @thibaultquartier4794 2 года назад +42

    maybe willow doesn't remember the troupe because she lost her nightmare mask, just like brumm/nymm

  • @hazelv.a.7976
    @hazelv.a.7976 2 года назад +24

    Honestly, learning why they were in that tunnel made this video worth it.

  • @MetaFanWing
    @MetaFanWing 2 года назад +7

    20:18
    I’d like to point out that for the Lurien the Whisperer section, he used the song Mephiles’ Whisper from Sonic 06. Clever.

  • @aqua2k210
    @aqua2k210 2 года назад +21

    14:28 Honestly that's more terrifying than the Abyss theme

  • @tommapar
    @tommapar 2 года назад +32

    Steel Soul is called that way because your soul vessel never breaks like when your shade is out there, it only does so when you die and therefore it only does so once.

  • @meyes1098
    @meyes1098 3 месяца назад +3

    The steel soul part is likely a reference to the "iron man" modes of earlier games, where it's permanent death.

    • @Pererogatist
      @Pererogatist 3 месяца назад

      Oh yeah, that makes sense

  • @tylercoon1791
    @tylercoon1791 2 года назад +30

    I like to think that the ‘super hidden top secret’ name for The Knight is just a normal name, and internally, he’s named Rodger or something

    • @waxocelot9395
      @waxocelot9395 2 года назад

      ah yes, the protag for hollow knight: James

  • @ryankeith2712
    @ryankeith2712 2 года назад +61

    What a Christmas present mossbag! Thank you and merry Christmas!

  • @rodrigohernandez222
    @rodrigohernandez222 2 года назад +14

    Yo, I heard from somewhere that if I sacrifice you, we will get silksong

  • @Zkydo
    @Zkydo 2 года назад +36

    11:08 about the death of Tiso, I did a post on reddit some months ago, because during my steel soul run I didnt talk to Tiso, he was still looking at me next to the well even until the end, so his corpse is not on Kindgom's Edge.
    The thing with this, is that during the fight with Mawlek on Godhome, Tiso doesn't show there, because you know, he is not death, nice detail that kind of confirm his death in the CoF.

    • @zehirahsen874
      @zehirahsen874 2 года назад +3

      Are you sure that was the Panthon of Hallownest?

  • @stary_kartofel2137
    @stary_kartofel2137 2 года назад +17

    15:51 I feel like this tent actually belonged to a bug that hid in the ceiling from Willoh

  • @harryrinaudo5525
    @harryrinaudo5525 2 года назад +42

    mossbag run, r/hollowknightmemes is coming for you.

    • @jakespacepiratee3740
      @jakespacepiratee3740 Год назад +1

      Why?

    • @harryrinaudo5525
      @harryrinaudo5525 Год назад +1

      @@jakespacepiratee3740 This was made when the hollowknight subreddits were plotting to sacrifice mossbag to make silksong come out

  • @Mr__Legday
    @Mr__Legday 2 года назад +23

    I like the Title “God of Gods” given by the god home bug to the knight. It only appears in the the Godhome mode.