Hello everyone! The original backer who created No Eyes recently made a Reddit post explaining her original backstory. It's a little different from what was shown here, so check out the link if you're interested! www.reddit.com/r/HollowKnight/comments/pawsyv/no_eyess_original_story/?context=3
Wanted to add that the "They are coming what's inside of you, strip it out" might be referencing the dreams coming and she wanting to become hollow as the Vessels were. Strip out what's inside of you... Eyes could possibly be a way of doing so, because without eyes, you achieve ultimate black.
Hollow Knight: Hallownest is haunted by light: No Eyes exists Hollow Knight Silksong: Pharloom is haunted by music: No Ears must therefore exist. I rest my case.
@@AshenDust_ yes but they have no ears, its different (also this just made me think about void and if IT has ears or any way of hearing its surroundings.. maybe ghost just doesnt hear anything wich while lore breaking, would be hillarious)
I created galien, a few things, i was the only backer to specify my character used a weapon, all the others chose magic. Though they Changed the weapon style from a big cracked nail, to a scythe. I kinda dig it tbh. Another was i created a rather detailed background that was too long and ended being cut down. Originally his concept was basically in short, he went to slay all those affected by the curse and ended up overexerting and damaging his own body leading to his death. I gave them the go ahead to change the background to whatever they needed to fit better for thier game and lore. I drew a basic design and they mostly kept it that way, it was a awesome experience that i never thought id do.
Sorry to bother you over a whole year later, but I was wondering if you were ever able to find that original drawing of Galien? Maybe in an old email somewhere? I know the HK community would get a kick out of seeing it.
"I wonder how Gorb fought when he was alive" Gorb didn't need to fight. His enemies would witness the sheer power of his intelligence and die instantly.
I don't know why he changed the story. You can read the original post yourself. No Eyes gouged her eyes out herself because she couldn't see her precious children attack her and she sang them a lullaby while they killed her. In the original boss fight, the lullaby is supposed to warn the player of the direction the children will be coming from, which mossbag got right.
Moths are peacefull and don't use weapons. Markoth: Fights you with weapons. Thistlewind: Knows how to wield a weapon. Seer: Gives you a weapon. Radiance: Fights you with swords.
@@coraliep-r4346 well, it makes sense that the ones with weapons are those that remain. Being peaceful doesn't help a lot with surviving, especially in a world as dangerous as Hallownest.
You know I always wondered what No Eyes story was considering she is one of the most overtly creepy characters in the game. ....That backstory isn't quite what I expected but it certainly fits an ghost mother singing a really twisted sounding lullaby.
"they're coming" - No Eyes says to her children, the infected are approaching and they'll rise as husks too if they don't gouge themselves. "what's inside you... strip it out" - Take out your eyes before it's too late, we'll die but at least we won't turn into light moth zombies. That's how I read that quote after the re-contextualization given by the original backer lore.
@@atherisGAY After all, the Radiance wanted everyone possible to see her and know her and WORSHIP HER LIGHT and all that shit. No Eyes's last-ditch attempt to block her out made her basically leave them for dead because blind subjects would be useless to her.
*Plot twist:* gorb is a godseeker and he calls Escaping the wrap things 'ascending' except he lost the godseeker mask and Found a new mask which drove him crazy
My personal theory for No Eyes is that she somehow found out about the opposition between the void and the Radiance, and to try and make herself and her children immune to the infection, she ripped out their eyes and replaced them all with void. This theory is assisted by her sprite, which looks like void dripping from her eyes, and her line about a place where "light cannot haunt us" and "a place without dreams," since the Radiance is the exact opposite of that.
always assumed the reason gorb was being gorb is linked to the howling cliffs, leaving hallownest. like he was this impossibly smart genius reduced to a hooting and hollering wretch once outside of the pale king's influence
Asj that makes sense since he seems to be missing more than a few screws also the dialogue that refers to gorb as a mysterious life-form seems to imply that slugs rare and have special inborn abilities when you look at Unn.
I think what happened with no eyes was that she returned to the sanctuary, to find her children all infected. In denial, she decided to get rid of the main symptoms; their glowing. orange. eyes. and they fought back.
17:00 I always interpreted the “they” here as the dreams. In fact, in my mind I always thought No Eyes’ story was the easiest to decipher. Bugs that became infected have glowing orange eyes and had dreams of light. “They’re coming... What’s inside of you...” means that the dreams, or more accurately the Radiance, is beginning to glisten inside. So, “Strip it out!” would mean that fearing the infection, she tore out the eyes as she believed the glowing eyes had a connection to becoming infected. No Eyes tore out her and her children’s eyes because of fear of the infection, yet failed to protect them or herself.
@@ongabobonga6543 also if you want to hop from enemies to enemies by downstriking like a friggin badass(or just want to speedrun), use the dash after downstriking an enemy. also downstriking a downstrikable object recharges your double jump( sorry for spoiling in case you didnt have it), so it can allow you to be an absolute madlad.
I really like no eye's chamber. The architecture is all different from the rest of the game. Something I think is interesting about it is that it just doesn't have any lights. Even deepnest just has empty lights in it but in are there is just nothing.
8:22 Actually, the Seer very obliquely talks about Xero if you talk to her after getting all Essence from the Whispering Root outside her room, but before fighting him.
It hadn't crossed my mind until now but... The quote "Can't dream... if you're still breathing" from No Eyes actually makes sense when you think about how to fight the dream variants of bosses like the False Knight, Soul Master, ect. In order for those bosses to dream, you must first strike them down.
It would make sense, yes, but then you have the Dung Defender who does have a dream variant despite not being dead. My theory is that it just refers to how every infected bug is basically a reanimated body, dead, but puppeteered around by the Radiance, who is, as we know, in the Dream World.
@@ioanaalexandra6885 That would make a bit more sense. Although it's worth mentioning that the dream variants of bosses that are still alive (such as dung defender and NKG if that even counts) are all DLC. Not that it means anything though, just kinda interesting ya know?
@@bradleywade4781 That's a really good observation, didn't even realize! I think you're right about it not being of much significance, but who knows :)
I know im late but to add, maybe the line "What inside you?" "Strip it out" Refer to dream or mind, basically saying. The radiance coming, get rid of your mind/dream. Which is what the radiance needed to infect.
I think Marmu could still become part of the moth tribe, as being a pile of sludge in a cocoon seems like a prime time for a ancient light god to contact you and give you a power point presentation on why you should serve her
It took me the intro to realise that gorb is literally shouting "GOOOOOOORRRRRBAH" how have i not realised this?? I have 112% and all achievements and i had no idea
No Eyes is dark as hell, and I love it. I also found Marmu’s dialogue rather sad- she died protecting the garden of a hidden queen, waiting for her to teach her to fly.
Well, I really think Gorb died when his head exploded due to his brain growing without a stop. I mean, just look at the monument, and think about the only normal thing he says; the pain.
No Eyes’ song IS probably the bugnish version of her original song. The “1, 2, They’re coming for you... 3, 4, better watch the floor..” still lines up with her song in game
Samuel Dixon: Ok, so he will stay in the corners and shoot projectiles and his shield at you. Team Cherry: Yes… Say, do you mind if we took out the floor later down the line? And also create a boss who’s difficulty can rival the superboss of the game?
Marmu Lore: The queen is teaching me to fly!!!!! Xero Lore: I didn't like the king so I died Elder Hu Lore: The mantises didn't like me so I died Galien Lore: I came to this dangerous place to train. But they overwhelmed me and killed me. Markoth Lore: I'm a moth... but *violent* No Eyes Lore: *They tore out my eyes and now I will do the same to you* Gorb Lore: *A S C E N D*
8:45 Theory: Markoth learned/suspected the truth about the Radience, how they turned their backs on her to serve the Pale King, and more than likely came to prove his suspicions by searching and finding the moulting shell of the Pale Wyrm.
Something about gorb: Maybe the beyond is just the surface. Hallownest seems to be completely underground, with no connection to the surface. Maybe, ascending with Gorb, is going to the place he came from, the surface. Edit: I made this comment yesterday and it has so many likes already! I guess my random thoughts are good sometimes...
Very interesting theory. I imagine the surface would be an alien environment for most of the bugs in Hallownest, so it ties in with the use of the term "lifeform". It _might_ also tie in with the theory that Gorb is a Godseeker. The Godseekers come from the Land of Storms, where they worshipped the Gods of Thunder and Rain. This area seems to be above the surface since, well, there's no storms underground.
I personally think the background info behind Marmu is really sweet! Here we have a mother supporting her son financially, and him putting a part of her into the game. While Marmu as a character does not tie too much into the game, I feel it could be the mother's favourite animal, and the carefree and happy character may reflect her. It's heartwarming to think of it this way, and I almost hope this theory is true.
I definitely think Gorb being a godseeker has more credit than was stated "The Beyond" could very well be the "Land beyond Hallownest" the term lifeform could also be related to how godseekers are a hivemind, although i dont think that holds much weight (still probably more than aliens lmaooo)
I've always thought Gorb was a Godseeker that took off his mask and went insane because he tried to attune without it. Maybe it's how he lost connection to the godseeker's one mind as well. And technically, just because the Godseekers are wrapped up like mummies doesn't mean they aren't sluglike. In my opinion, the godseeker sitting by the lake appears sluglike. Considering we never see one walk around, it's impossible to conclude. Additionally, "mysterious life form" matches up with Godseekers as well. They aren't native to Hollownest, they came from somewhere else. If one showed up before the infection, describing it as a "mysterious life form" checks out. On top of all that, "dreamborn god of the beyond" fits in with the very *existence* of godhome. It exists in the dream realm, but beyond any normal dream, as only those attuning or being attuned to can access it
A bit late to comment on the theory, but I was thinking the godseekers might be slug like until I realised you can the the god seeker in the junk pit very clearly has limbs and isn't slug like
No eyes lore, ripped out her eyes to combat infection, got murdered by her children it's deep and stuff no one: Gorb: ASCEND WITH GORB ASCEND ASCEND GREAT MIND!
One thing that nobody seems to take note of is that Gorb is called: *dreamborn* god of the beyond Couldn’t “dreamborn” suggest that Gorb isn’t even really a ghost and that he’s instead literally an idea or dream given a spirit form through the dream realm? It sounds a bit insane, but maybe some group of bugs built that statue of Gorb and worshipped the vague idea of ascension and intelligence- leading to the formation of a spirit that seems to know that it’s meant to be intelligent and seek ascent, but has no idea what that means in reality, so it just reiterates how intelligent is and tries to get people to worship itself. This is kinda supported by the fact that the radiance (a being that basically lived off of the few moths that still worshipped it), though I still recognise that it’s a bit out there
I hope somone will see this, I alweys thought that Xeros line "Ah.. I can see now. Those who turn ageinst the King are doomed as soon as they raise their weapon" is interesting. It could mean that kinds knights are simply that compedent but.. i think there is something more, that Pale Kind could pretty much paralise of straight up kill his subjects wiht his will power. Its a bit of a streach but its based on the tablets on the end of Hollownest "Those foolish enough to traverse this void must pay the toll and relinquish the precious mind this kingdom grants". If its the Pale King who gives reason to the bugs, and without him they lose it, it is possible that he fills them wiht his light sorta like Radiance does, and that he can take it awey from his subjects. Its a bit of a streach but Xero line was too specific for me, i hope its worth consideration.
Xero I always took in two ways he was a elite captain of the hallownest military fallen to the radiance. Or Xero was a elite captain who sought to overthrow the caste structure of hallownest society both the grub confirm this caste system and the prejudice of it, so Xero attempts rebellion and is subsequently crushed due to the pale king predictions alerting him to Xero's treachery.
I feel like we can all relate to Marmu She died waiting for the queens return We will die waiting for silksong Btw I can’t be the only one who though marmuu had her mouth open and has black eyes?
One thing about the ghost is that, even while being backers things, in game they really didn't feel out of place. It felt pretty natural to find some warrior of the pasts, with their own personnalities and such.
Given that going by the interviews in this video, Team Cherry changed basically everything they wanted except base concepts about the backer bugs. It only makes sense they now fit so well. Going by Markuth, they didnt even tell the backers that they decided to make the dead warriors unaware that they died now.
I think gorb's backstory is simple. He lied about being smart and Bs his way to getting a statue of him and then he died and was buried there and didn't accept his death because he isn't smart
A dude was smart enough to lie about selling the Eiffel Tower twice. Another dude was smart enough to lie about needing money to build an airport that isn't real. A puny statue is nothing.
@@ibraheemshuaib8954 EXACTLY He could have had a temple built or something else that describe who the heck he was but *NO* he just wanted a stupid little statue
The fact that you used THAT music from the movie "Annihilation" in the Gorb passage fills me with joy. (the fact that you criticize the only postlogy StarWars film that was actively trying to be actual cinema, less) But Annihilation is so gooood yes x)
"All dream warrior bosses were designed by Kickstarter backers..." So what you're telling me, is that relatively speaking, you could track down the guy who though Markoth was a good idea make him regret thinking that. Oh boi, what a mistake to reveal his name.
@person good Isn't Grubfather going to be eaten by his children from the inside-out or something along those lines? I guess it's okay as long as it involves the parent's consent. Or vore.
@@np_animation6319 The trick is, don't die Seriously though, try equipping some range charms and hit them only in between the sword slashes, try to recover hp whenever you kill one of them (when there's only one alive you can safely get one hp once you dodged its attack) and yeah that's all i can tell you It's a hard boss fight, you'll make it
I think that Marmu getting taught how to fly from The White Lady means that: He would turn into a cocoon (since cocoons hang from trees) and he would come out as a moth. (which can fly) :)
Mossbag you goof The beyond most likely refers to the lands outside of hallownest; and of pale king's influence (he is situated at the howling cliffs after all). I think gorb was a bug who, amidst the mindless bugs of the "beyond", somehow got access to knowledge, and thus claimed himself as a great mind.
"Kinda make me wonder how bugs like Xero and Gorb actually fought when they were alive" How Xero and Gorb fought when they were alive: *IMMA YEET THIS NAIL AT YOU!!!* *YEEET*
Maybe Gorb ascended not just consciously but physically too. Judging form his design, Gorb probably couldn't walk, but had to crawl on the ground like a worm all his life. but he used his brain and intelligence to "ascend." Gorb probably became famous for defying logic and tried to spread his wisdom to others, creating a group of sorts which would try to decipher his ramblings and repeated phrases, which explains the the appearent worship of him through the statue at the Howling Cliffs. Honestly, seeing a flying worm defy logic would make me a believer any day.
There's a chance that Thislewind isn't referring to Markoth. He is a ghost, and cannot move from his grave. Perhaps Markoth is a younger generation than Thislewind, and was trying to explore what happened to the bug Thislewind is mentioning. Maybe we'll see this mysterious bug in Silksong, still searching for whatever truth they were looking for.
It does, but having such streaks doesn’t mean that you have any relation to the void. The traitor’s child and the lord fool have these streaks and they are completely unrelated to the substance
Actually, in Kickstarter pages and dev notes, the player was called the Hollow Knight, as well as the Vessels. It likely changed during development, like Tiso.
I’ve always thought no eyes removed her kids eyes after seeing the other bugs orange eyes she was somehow consumed by the void and the place she is talking about free from the radiance was the abyss lake
How Xero fought while he is alive: He uses lance like nails and throws them like spear for long range, and uses their bladed edges for close range combat. How Markoth fought while he was alive: Uses his shield in one hand and his nail in the other, most likely very acrobatic. How Gorb fought while he was alive: His ultimate brain capacity allows him to pick up nails with his telekinesis and launch them toward his foes. Or perhaps he CREATES THE NAILS WITH HIS MIND! How Galien fought while he was alive: spin threw his scythe for a ranged attack and used its sharp edges for close ranged attacks How No Eyes fought when she was alive: Unknown, most likely used a nail like most of the bugs in Hallownest. Maybe she threw her weird ass children at her foes and tore their eyes out 👀 How Elder Hu fought while he was alive: Most likely didn't do much, but his dream attacks suggest he might have used spells. How Marmu fought while she was alive: r o l l
Hello everyone! The original backer who created No Eyes recently made a Reddit post explaining her original backstory. It's a little different from what was shown here, so check out the link if you're interested! www.reddit.com/r/HollowKnight/comments/pawsyv/no_eyess_original_story/?context=3
Wow, after RUclips pestered me to watch this video for 3 months, I click just in time to see this.
ok
I appreciate you for updating the video after a year
Wanted to add that the "They are coming what's inside of you, strip it out" might be referencing the dreams coming and she wanting to become hollow as the Vessels were. Strip out what's inside of you... Eyes could possibly be a way of doing so, because without eyes, you achieve ultimate black.
The song sounds like silent knight holy knight
"the white lady wouldnt know anything about flying, shes a rooted plant"
meanwhile, Mr mushroom just rockets away like its natural
Its
HSP
hollow space programme
He is a mushroom, not a plant
@@marcoasturias8520 we know man
The law of physics dont medle with mr musrhoom
Mr mushroom is another form of higher being, he is a high being, he most likely hung out with Gorb, who was too high.
Marmu lore: "The Queen is gonna teach me to fly, yaaaay!!"
No Eyes lore: *"My own children ripped my eyes out, so I ripped out theirs!"*
Gorb lore: “ *Aliens* “
Marmu: Ooooooohhhhhh
Gorb: I am gorb
Get vectored
2001 honda civic time
"There really isn't anything special about Gorb"
Bold words to say for somebody in Gorbing distance.
You have been GORBED
Is that a jojo Reference?
Always has been.👈
YOU SHOULD BE SCARED OF GORB.
Ascension gun
Hollow Knight: Hallownest is haunted by light: No Eyes exists
Hollow Knight Silksong: Pharloom is haunted by music: No Ears must therefore exist.
I rest my case.
but.. bugs dont have ears
@@An_Entire_Lime they have ear holes
@@AshenDust_ yes but they have no ears, its different
(also this just made me think about void and if IT has ears or any way of hearing its surroundings.. maybe ghost just doesnt hear anything wich while lore breaking, would be hillarious)
@@An_Entire_Lime when u can’t listen to the Hollow Knight ost :(
@@AshenDust_ sad god and void moment
I created galien, a few things, i was the only backer to specify my character used a weapon, all the others chose magic. Though they Changed the weapon style from a big cracked nail, to a scythe. I kinda dig it tbh. Another was i created a rather detailed background that was too long and ended being cut down. Originally his concept was basically in short, he went to slay all those affected by the curse and ended up overexerting and damaging his own body leading to his death. I gave them the go ahead to change the background to whatever they needed to fit better for thier game and lore. I drew a basic design and they mostly kept it that way, it was a awesome experience that i never thought id do.
That's really interesting! Thanks for sharing! Do you happen to have that original drawing? I'd love to see it. My DMs are open on Twitter.
@@mossbag69 was quite a few years back, might still have something. Ill look around.
@@cherkv Thanks for taking the time to check! I appreciate it
Sorry to bother you over a whole year later, but I was wondering if you were ever able to find that original drawing of Galien? Maybe in an old email somewhere? I know the HK community would get a kick out of seeing it.
@@mossbag69 that is a long time
"I wonder how Gorb fought when he was alive"
Gorb didn't need to fight. His enemies would witness the sheer power of his intelligence and die instantly.
Yes
Gorb the master mind
How do you know my secrets?
yes, a true smart person
Psychic powers
If you have that big of a brain you have to know psychic abilities
original gorb: hee hoo slug sword
original no eyes: literally a creepypasta
Original Markoth: Just kinda a dick.
@@fidget0227 Final Markoth: still a dick.
Marmu: I believe I can fly
xero: this is your target 47, the pale king.
Galien: I have a single cell dinging around in my noggin!
"Silksong is releasing in 2054."
Optimists, they're all the same.
Well no, it's releasing may 29th.
@@Changoos123 may 29th of 2077 :gorbbrain:
xVfL_88 2021?
You gotta reject your humanity as i did to be able to play silksong
Yeah, right? It’s releasing 2077
No eyes : comes back to her children
Her children : so i started eating
Quarantine hit the kids hard after mom left for milk
I mean you can’t blame them
@@Karin17S LMAO
I don't know why he changed the story. You can read the original post yourself. No Eyes gouged her eyes out herself because she couldn't see her precious children attack her and she sang them a lullaby while they killed her. In the original boss fight, the lullaby is supposed to warn the player of the direction the children will be coming from, which mossbag got right.
Moths are peacefull and don't use weapons.
Markoth: Fights you with weapons.
Thistlewind: Knows how to wield a weapon.
Seer: Gives you a weapon.
Radiance: Fights you with swords.
I would like to see one (1) moth with no relation to weapons
Unnamed moth is there
@@coraliep-r4346 well, it makes sense that the ones with weapons are those that remain. Being peaceful doesn't help a lot with surviving, especially in a world as dangerous as Hallownest.
Most moths. And the only living one is a pacifist outside of killing the Radiance
@@Mikauo_XbladeBut Markoth and Thislewind are both dead?
The explanation for the ghosts in hollow knight is that they are what we will turn into as we wait for silksong
Save meeee, I'm dyinggggg...
ok lore freak
Yes
How is your comment 14 hours old
fun e joke mola
"I am gorb" -gorb
Ah, an ascended mind indeed.
Like Einstein one
Borg.
Best comment I've ever read, thank you
words to live by
It would seem that Groot has ascended too.
"No Eyes' backstory was so dark we had to rewrite it!"
*Proceeds to write something potentially way darker*
Seriosly dont let a child see this video no eyes lore is horrifyng Jesus christ no eyes history is even more horrifyng than the vessel's history
@@Monsterconnoiseur at least the King had the decency to yeet the children where no one else could see
Darkest thing about her is still her arena
You know I always wondered what No Eyes story was considering she is one of the most overtly creepy characters in the game.
....That backstory isn't quite what I expected but it certainly fits an ghost mother singing a really twisted sounding lullaby.
Why does she has a sanctum in the first place?
"they're coming" - No Eyes says to her children, the infected are approaching and they'll rise as husks too if they don't gouge themselves.
"what's inside you... strip it out" - Take out your eyes before it's too late, we'll die but at least we won't turn into light moth zombies.
That's how I read that quote after the re-contextualization given by the original backer lore.
Even more horrible thank the original :)
Yeah, that's how I interpreted it too. Not being able to see the light mightve been a desperate attempt to not get infected.
@@atherisGAY After all, the Radiance wanted everyone possible to see her and know her and WORSHIP HER LIGHT and all that shit. No Eyes's last-ditch attempt to block her out made her basically leave them for dead because blind subjects would be useless to her.
*Plot twist:* gorb is a godseeker and he calls Escaping the wrap things 'ascending' except he lost the godseeker mask and Found a new mask which drove him crazy
I hate how that's almost plausible.
Maybe Gorb somehow got disconnected from the hive mind and that is why he's a little weird
How do you know The secrets of Gorb?
That’s actually a good theory
Oh, gorb, I didn't expect to see you here
"Gorb probably died from a coke overdose"
that's perfect
If Gorb was a substance the entire community would be on him 24/7
@@Golden12500 I'm going to say "I'm high on gorb" whenever I'm playing HK
@@jvcmarc lmao
Yep that sounds like gorb😂
My personal theory for No Eyes is that she somehow found out about the opposition between the void and the Radiance, and to try and make herself and her children immune to the infection, she ripped out their eyes and replaced them all with void. This theory is assisted by her sprite, which looks like void dripping from her eyes, and her line about a place where "light cannot haunt us" and "a place without dreams," since the Radiance is the exact opposite of that.
And when you defeat her and she says "you were always protecting us" could potentially be her referring to the void present in the knight
Yup, that's what I'm thinking too.
You can't see Radiance's blinding light if you have no eyes.
@CellarDoor when we hit enemies the so called blood that splatters out is white, that could be their soul or their blood
@@viriyo4958 she probably had too much insight.
@CellarDoor I dunno, whenever someone dies to the Void, their eyes bleed black like that
always assumed the reason gorb was being gorb is linked to the howling cliffs, leaving hallownest. like he was this impossibly smart genius reduced to a hooting and hollering wretch once outside of the pale king's influence
Asj that makes sense since he seems to be missing more than a few screws also the dialogue that refers to gorb as a mysterious life-form seems to imply that slugs rare and have special inborn abilities when you look at Unn.
I thought he was just a dr. Weird slug. He dies from a coke overdose demonstrating his mountain of coke weapon 😔 rip
“also ascend” can be refearing to the howling clifs because of the position in the map (sory for the english, is not my native lenguage)
@@msw8616 Your English is great! Wonderful job :)
Daniel Dischino thank you ^ - ^
I think what happened with no eyes was that she returned to the sanctuary, to find her children all infected. In denial, she decided to get rid of the main symptoms; their glowing. orange. eyes.
and they fought back.
17:00 I always interpreted the “they” here as the dreams. In fact, in my mind I always thought No Eyes’ story was the easiest to decipher.
Bugs that became infected have glowing orange eyes and had dreams of light. “They’re coming... What’s inside of you...” means that the dreams, or more accurately the Radiance, is beginning to glisten inside. So, “Strip it out!” would mean that fearing the infection, she tore out the eyes as she believed the glowing eyes had a connection to becoming infected. No Eyes tore out her and her children’s eyes because of fear of the infection, yet failed to protect them or herself.
“The main character of hollow knight is really good at killing things”
Not when I’m playing 😔
1. Downstrike(jump and strike downwards on enemies.)
2. Spells(dont be a pussy, use that soul to good use.)
3. dodge with dash
@@ionicman2908 dude now im a GOD thx
@@ongabobonga6543 happy to help:)
@@ongabobonga6543 also if you want to hop from enemies to enemies by downstriking like a friggin badass(or just want to speedrun), use the dash after downstriking an enemy. also downstriking a downstrikable object recharges your double jump( sorry for spoiling in case you didnt have it), so it can allow you to be an absolute madlad.
@@ionicman2908 4: Get defeated by NKG
5: Cry after attempting buzz saw hell
Video starts. mossbag: "Spoilers to *Star wars"*
Me: yea, this will be a ride
But is it for _Episode VII : the force awakens_ or _Episode VIII : the last jedi_ ?
Edit: it's the latter
Basile L'Eplattenier it’s for episode X: the last skywalker awakens
I really like no eye's chamber. The architecture is all different from the rest of the game. Something I think is interesting about it is that it just doesn't have any lights. Even deepnest just has empty lights in it but in are there is just nothing.
omg it is statical youre my hero im so proud of you and i respect you so much keep up the good work
Don't need lights if you don't have eyes!
Slightly off topic, but I was playing steel mode, and it turns out you don't have to defeat no eyes to get the mask shard
I still don't understand what are her fountains doing in City of Tears.
@@vanjaarsic1616 She was a famous night kinda... she protected the pilgrims or something
"They are coming, they are hungry" -No-Eyes talking about Timon & Pumbaa.
Oh shoot
8:22 Actually, the Seer very obliquely talks about Xero if you talk to her after getting all Essence from the Whispering Root outside her room, but before fighting him.
When the original Gorb drawing appeared on the screen it felt comically surreal
good comment 👍
12:50
Biblically accurate Gorb changed my life
"Hu died in the fungal wastes..."
"Boy, if mossbag doesn't know who, then I guess it's a secret to everyone."
Who's on First
Nice
LMAO
@@RiptidePen I don't know's on third
IT'S A SECRET TO EVERYBODY.
It hadn't crossed my mind until now but...
The quote "Can't dream... if you're still breathing" from No Eyes actually makes sense when you think about how to fight the dream variants of bosses like the False Knight, Soul Master, ect.
In order for those bosses to dream, you must first strike them down.
It would make sense, yes, but then you have the Dung Defender who does have a dream variant despite not being dead. My theory is that it just refers to how every infected bug is basically a reanimated body, dead, but puppeteered around by the Radiance, who is, as we know, in the Dream World.
@@ioanaalexandra6885 That would make a bit more sense. Although it's worth mentioning that the dream variants of bosses that are still alive (such as dung defender and NKG if that even counts) are all DLC. Not that it means anything though, just kinda interesting ya know?
@@bradleywade4781 That's a really good observation, didn't even realize! I think you're right about it not being of much significance, but who knows :)
I know im late but to add, maybe the line
"What inside you?"
"Strip it out"
Refer to dream or mind, basically saying. The radiance coming, get rid of your mind/dream. Which is what the radiance needed to infect.
Straight up disrespect when you used vengeful spirit to kill nail smith at the beginning
I think Marmu could still become part of the moth tribe, as being a pile of sludge in a cocoon seems like a prime time for a ancient light god to contact you and give you a power point presentation on why you should serve her
It took me the intro to realise that gorb is literally shouting "GOOOOOOORRRRRBAH"
how have i not realised this?? I have 112% and all achievements and i had no idea
Same wtf
same!
Since the "r" is unintelligible unless you are really looking out for it.
I though he was like uuuuuuUUUuuubah
I thought he was just screaming nonsense
“Silksong is releasing in 2054”
Don’t do that. Don’t give me hope.
Beside, he is wrong.
He had read the numbers in the opposite order: silksong is to be relased in the year 4502.
Me Too, I Know It's Never Gonna Happen' :(
ikr, it's gonna be in 2021. At worst, 2022.
Edit: *oof.*
@@vizthex I hope so
@@vizthex don't lie its gonna be in the year 5402
No Eyes is dark as hell, and I love it. I also found Marmu’s dialogue rather sad- she died protecting the garden of a hidden queen, waiting for her to teach her to fly.
and the worse thing is he has a marked grave which means the white lady would have known
So am I the only one who compares Marmu to Spinel from Steven Universe or…
5:50 "Real life, actual ghost hunting"
.... Riiiiiiight
Real ghosts....
That’s the joke
Boo
Well, I really think Gorb died when his head exploded due to his brain growing without a stop. I mean, just look at the monument, and think about the only normal thing he says; the pain.
he gorb
Smh we need to stop people from selling cookies. This is the third time this week some has died selling them.
how many girl scouts will it take before the government starts taking cookie control seriously? 😔
We need common sense cookie control laws. If it saves even one life...
moment of silence for the brave troops who died selling cookies
I swear mossbag is the only guy who can make gorb sound more interesting than he already is
It's horrifying how the alien theory is sorta plausible
Except it’s not...?
@@Ismael-kc3ry shhhhhhhhhhh
@@Ismael-kc3ry He's Gorb
No Eyes’ song IS probably the bugnish version of her original song. The “1, 2, They’re coming for you... 3, 4, better watch the floor..” still lines up with her song in game
Creepypasta: im the scariest story ever!!
no eyes: hold my kid.
@ISABELLA ABALOS My favorite show! Lemniscate Locomotive!
@ISABELLA ABALOS infinity train?
"Bugnish"? That's a cute name for the game's little nonsense language, I like it 💙
marmu: child like noises
no eyes: _demonic chanting_
Not only is Elder Hu dead, he's dead wrong.
*generic crowd laughing.mp3*
😂😂😂😂Good one dude
Good One :)
666 likes
accurate
Samuel Dixon: Ok, so he will stay in the corners and shoot projectiles and his shield at you.
Team Cherry: Yes… Say, do you mind if we took out the floor later down the line? And also create a boss who’s difficulty can rival the superboss of the game?
Well the radiance version of him anyway.
Eh he ain't that hard
He's one of 2 bosses I've yet to Radiant. The other being AbsRad.
Update: Beat him. Still hate him.
He is the personification of bullet hell
@@pedroivog.s.6870 He is the personification of hell.
So how long till the “hornet is void” discord bots are made
luckily saying hornet is void is against the rules
Yeah we dont want to promote misinformation
They are null and void.
Idk but we already need them
Marmu Lore: The queen is teaching me to fly!!!!!
Xero Lore: I didn't like the king so I died
Elder Hu Lore: The mantises didn't like me so I died
Galien Lore: I came to this dangerous place to train. But they overwhelmed me and killed me.
Markoth Lore: I'm a moth... but *violent*
No Eyes Lore: *They tore out my eyes and now I will do the same to you*
Gorb Lore: *A S C E N D*
8:45
Theory: Markoth learned/suspected the truth about the Radience, how they turned their backs on her to serve the Pale King, and more than likely came to prove his suspicions by searching and finding the moulting shell of the Pale Wyrm.
Something about gorb:
Maybe the beyond is just the surface.
Hallownest seems to be completely underground, with no connection to the surface.
Maybe, ascending with Gorb, is going to the place he came from, the surface.
Edit: I made this comment yesterday and it has so many likes already! I guess my random thoughts are good sometimes...
Very interesting theory. I imagine the surface would be an alien environment for most of the bugs in Hallownest, so it ties in with the use of the term "lifeform". It _might_ also tie in with the theory that Gorb is a Godseeker. The Godseekers come from the Land of Storms, where they worshipped the Gods of Thunder and Rain. This area seems to be above the surface since, well, there's no storms underground.
Aren't the Howling Cliffs above ground? I like this theory, but if Gorb is found above ground anyways, where does he ascend to?
@@SpitFyre37 i think howling cliffs is still in a cave
Maxeon 09 in real life we made a building big enough to have it’s own weather, so the cave might be really, really big.
@@J0hnB09 Might just be a regular cave but they're bugs so it seems huge
He started talking about Gorb and decided to go full “Ancient Aliens” on us
ancient aliens, its all true, im an expert just like you!
@@bowlwasprobablytaken7149 And like you im a genius, before my time!
@@TheDJBrojo disbelieving, thats the real crime!
Finally, a video with ME!
W e n e e d a n s w e r s
Gorb
Ascend! Ascend!
@@rulioguerrero4637 Uhhhhh
Ascension overdose
Gorb
Gorb!
I personally think the background info behind Marmu is really sweet! Here we have a mother supporting her son financially, and him putting a part of her into the game. While Marmu as a character does not tie too much into the game, I feel it could be the mother's favourite animal, and the carefree and happy character may reflect her. It's heartwarming to think of it this way, and I almost hope this theory is true.
Destroying the infection inside a dream? I think Xero was onto something and we were none the wiser.
"Moss bag is cringe" - CEO of grammar errors, 2020
"Who is moosbag?"
CEO of grammar errors AKA Mr. YEET
You guys should really come and check out the discord because now you're laughing but those messages are true😂😂😂
Smh
@@Benchuuu oh hi bench
“What happened to the other backers you ask? Well, that’s a good question.”
-Mossbag
That Gorb origin story is so fitting, I honestly wouldn't want it any other way
I definitely think Gorb being a godseeker has more credit than was stated
"The Beyond" could very well be the "Land beyond Hallownest"
the term lifeform could also be related to how godseekers are a hivemind, although i dont think that holds much weight (still probably more than aliens lmaooo)
I've always thought Gorb was a Godseeker that took off his mask and went insane because he tried to attune without it. Maybe it's how he lost connection to the godseeker's one mind as well.
And technically, just because the Godseekers are wrapped up like mummies doesn't mean they aren't sluglike. In my opinion, the godseeker sitting by the lake appears sluglike. Considering we never see one walk around, it's impossible to conclude.
Additionally, "mysterious life form" matches up with Godseekers as well. They aren't native to Hollownest, they came from somewhere else. If one showed up before the infection, describing it as a "mysterious life form" checks out.
On top of all that, "dreamborn god of the beyond" fits in with the very *existence* of godhome. It exists in the dream realm, but beyond any normal dream, as only those attuning or being attuned to can access it
This comment is already so old but damnn I like this theory a lot
A bit late to comment on the theory, but I was thinking the godseekers might be slug like until I realised you can the the god seeker in the junk pit very clearly has limbs and isn't slug like
No eyes lore, ripped out her eyes to combat infection, got murdered by her children it's deep and stuff
no one:
Gorb: ASCEND WITH GORB ASCEND ASCEND GREAT MIND!
@Pure_Steve _1153 Raven just got the gender wrong
yea sorry steve :D
Just because I’m a mod doesn’t mean I have to leave a clever comment
Instead I’ll compliment you on yet another clever, well made video
Rolling Kirby Dominator is a mod on mossbags server
ew, imagine that
@@elrond2036 Couldn't be me
Hsifyarc thanks
You forgot part of Markoth’s lore.
He’s a PAIN in the ABDOMEN in the Pantheon of Hallownest.
He's easy.
Radiant Markoth on the other hand...
@@TitaniumTastesGood "easy"
One thing that nobody seems to take note of is that Gorb is called: *dreamborn* god of the beyond
Couldn’t “dreamborn” suggest that Gorb isn’t even really a ghost and that he’s instead literally an idea or dream given a spirit form through the dream realm? It sounds a bit insane, but maybe some group of bugs built that statue of Gorb and worshipped the vague idea of ascension and intelligence- leading to the formation of a spirit that seems to know that it’s meant to be intelligent and seek ascent, but has no idea what that means in reality, so it just reiterates how intelligent is and tries to get people to worship itself.
This is kinda supported by the fact that the radiance (a being that basically lived off of the few moths that still worshipped it), though I still recognise that it’s a bit out there
Ah yes, delivering cookies is an incredibly dangerous profession
I hope somone will see this,
I alweys thought that Xeros line "Ah.. I can see now. Those who turn ageinst the King are doomed as soon as they raise their weapon" is interesting. It could mean that kinds knights are simply that compedent but.. i think there is something more, that Pale Kind could pretty much paralise of straight up kill his subjects wiht his will power. Its a bit of a streach but its based on the tablets on the end of Hollownest "Those foolish enough to traverse this void must pay the toll and relinquish the precious mind this kingdom grants". If its the Pale King who gives reason to the bugs, and without him they lose it, it is possible that he fills them wiht his light sorta like Radiance does, and that he can take it awey from his subjects. Its a bit of a streach but Xero line was too specific for me, i hope its worth consideration.
streach
You fool. The pale king is a mafioso.
English
Xero I always took in two ways he was a elite captain of the hallownest military fallen to the radiance.
Or
Xero was a elite captain who sought to overthrow the caste structure of hallownest society both the grub confirm this caste system and the prejudice of it, so Xero attempts rebellion and is subsequently crushed due to the pale king predictions alerting him to Xero's treachery.
Imagine administrating that hellhole- wait...
Old Fishlips yea nice try man lmao
@Old Fishlips good i guess
I feel like we can all relate to Marmu
She died waiting for the queens return
We will die waiting for silksong
Btw I can’t be the only one who though marmuu had her mouth open and has black
eyes?
You are not alone
I had to double check her design and oh my God, you're right-
i can't see it as anything else please help i am so confu-
some random guy on the internet I believe it’s supposed to be the little white “teeth” are her eyes, and the little baby “arms” are her mandibles.
I can't see it as anything else. Please help
0:14
That's just savage. Stamping on man's dream the moment he dies. You don't have a heart
Fun fact: No Eyes contains No I’s
And also no eyes
One thing about the ghost is that, even while being backers things, in game they really didn't feel out of place. It felt pretty natural to find some warrior of the pasts, with their own personnalities and such.
Given that going by the interviews in this video, Team Cherry changed basically everything they wanted except base concepts about the backer bugs. It only makes sense they now fit so well.
Going by Markuth, they didnt even tell the backers that they decided to make the dead warriors unaware that they died now.
I think gorb's backstory is simple. He lied about being smart and Bs his way to getting a statue of him and then he died and was buried there and didn't accept his death because he isn't smart
But.....but the fact that someone actually build a statue of him means he actually smart .
@@weebs4907 The only thing he's smart at is lying about being smart
A dude was smart enough to lie about selling the Eiffel Tower twice. Another dude was smart enough to lie about needing money to build an airport that isn't real. A puny statue is nothing.
@@ibraheemshuaib8954 EXACTLY
He could have had a temple built or something else that describe who the heck he was but *NO* he just wanted a stupid little statue
So you have chosen
Death
Nice use of the Annihilation music for Gorb, The Alien is an incredible piece of music
5:03 I knew it was a joke but it still freaked me out
Hahahaha. Joke, right????????
The fact that you used THAT music from the movie "Annihilation" in the Gorb passage fills me with joy.
(the fact that you criticize the only postlogy StarWars film that was actively trying to be actual cinema, less)
But Annihilation is so gooood yes x)
"All dream warrior bosses were designed by Kickstarter backers..."
So what you're telling me, is that relatively speaking, you could track down the guy who though Markoth was a good idea make him regret thinking that.
Oh boi, what a mistake to reveal his name.
Dude, the tactic for markoth is patience. Run around the stage in a circle until he spins his shield and then charge slash him a few times.
Except his idea for Markoth was different from the one implemented. And the names of those who changed it aren't really hidden.
You have team cherry to blame for godhome's no floor fight. That was all them
So for Team Cherry, kids eating their parents is a no-no, but parents eating their kids is perfectly fine?
What about
Burn the father, feed the child
A bbq
@@hoshitime7785 bbq bacon cheeseburger now at Wendy's with a special grubby kick in your shit!
@@hoshitime7785 yep the entire nightmare ritual is about a kid eating its dad
@person good Isn't Grubfather going to be eaten by his children from the inside-out or something along those lines?
I guess it's okay as long as it involves the parent's consent. Or vore.
Fun Fact: You can hear the grubs inside the grub father which means that they are alive.
Yes my life has a meaning for 18minutes again
I feel this so hard
Can I please summon you to help me with watcher knights ;c
@@np_animation6319 The trick is, don't die
Seriously though, try equipping some range charms and hit them only in between the sword slashes, try to recover hp whenever you kill one of them (when there's only one alive you can safely get one hp once you dodged its attack) and yeah that's all i can tell you
It's a hard boss fight, you'll make it
@@yoannschuler7224 Yes but what if I could summon solaire tho ;o
@@np_animation6319 oh you know him that's awkward
Well I guess you could try some sun dance judging by the name
I think that Marmu getting taught how to fly from The White Lady means that: He would turn into a cocoon (since cocoons hang from trees) and he would come out as a moth. (which can fly) :)
So wholesome
Headcannon:
Mr. Mushroom and hunter did coke with Gorb given locations
8:50
Seeing Ronald McDonald T-posing is somehow deeply unsettling
More disturbing than No Eyes’ lore
R U N
Mossbag you goof
The beyond most likely refers to the lands outside of hallownest; and of pale king's influence (he is situated at the howling cliffs after all).
I think gorb was a bug who, amidst the mindless bugs of the "beyond", somehow got access to knowledge, and thus claimed himself as a great mind.
17:44
“Have you heard of a little hellhole called discord?”
*MUSIC KICKS UP*
*ad immediately interrupts*
Beautiful
"Silksong is gonna be released in 2054."
I guess Silksong is the Half Life 3 of the Hollow Knight fandom now.
"Xero dreamt of cutting down the infection in his dreams."
I too, dream while I am dreaming.
Nobody:
The pale king making clones: *some of you may die, but that's a risk I'm willing to take*
The hunter’s journal describes Gorb as Gorb
Oh hey, my theory for no eyes was not that far off, if yours is correct
Gorb in one word: ASCEND
ASCEND ASCEND, ASCEND WITH GORB
I just wanted that ascended Gorb be the hardest ascended it would be so cool
"Kinda make me wonder how bugs like Xero and Gorb actually fought when they were alive"
How Xero and Gorb fought when they were alive: *IMMA YEET THIS NAIL AT YOU!!!*
*YEEET*
Maybe Gorb ascended not just consciously but physically too. Judging form his design, Gorb probably couldn't walk, but had to crawl on the ground like a worm all his life. but he used his brain and intelligence to "ascend." Gorb probably became famous for defying logic and tried to spread his wisdom to others, creating a group of sorts which would try to decipher his ramblings and repeated phrases, which explains the the appearent worship of him through the statue at the Howling Cliffs. Honestly, seeing a flying worm defy logic would make me a believer any day.
Xero: turns against Pale King
Pale King: So you've chosen death
I mean it's kinda fair
There's a chance that Thislewind isn't referring to Markoth. He is a ghost, and cannot move from his grave. Perhaps Markoth is a younger generation than Thislewind, and was trying to explore what happened to the bug Thislewind is mentioning. Maybe we'll see this mysterious bug in Silksong, still searching for whatever truth they were looking for.
Thistlewind mentions that the bug was a moth and that they died in the kingdoms edge though so it's most likely there referring to Markoth.
It's definitely Markoth.
I reckon it is Markoth, and I think that links to the mystery of the Colosseum that was originally gonna be in the game if that makes sense?
My banner!!!!! Also more seriously doesn't it look like no eyes has void in her?
It does, but having such streaks doesn’t mean that you have any relation to the void. The traitor’s child and the lord fool have these streaks and they are completely unrelated to the substance
@@Ismael-kc3ry 🤔 yeah you're probably right, I immediately made the correlation with the guy of the tower of love
@@ze_zamzam yeah the collector. He got messed up (also congrats on the banner, it looks amazing)
@@Ismael-kc3ry thanks! And thanks for the explanation of course
@@ze_zamzam np
3:50 “For when your warrior greets the Hollow Knight.”
Ah, so even Team Cherry was confused about our protagonist back then.
Actually, in Kickstarter pages and dev notes, the player was called the Hollow Knight, as well as the Vessels. It likely changed during development, like Tiso.
“Or upset about Silksong not getting shadowdropped from the indie direct”
XD You gottem there
Day one of requesting Nailmaster lore.
Also, at 17:00, I think "they" means the Radiance, since isn't it a hive mind?
I’ve always thought no eyes removed her kids eyes after seeing the other bugs orange eyes she was somehow consumed by the void and the place she is talking about free from the radiance was the abyss lake
“Silksong is releasing in 2054”
Yeah but at least it’ll release before yandere simulater
Sounds about right.
Team Cherry are masters at coding.
Yandev on the other hand...
Coff coff (yanderedev is an idiot at coding) coff
(the leak of * in the coffs are intentional)
Galien: *claims to be the fiercest warrior in all of hallownest*
Also Galien: *can be evaded and beaten just by moving from side to side*
Rewatching Hollow Knight lore vids at 1AM instead of sleeping is the greatest vibe
Y'know, an ad for bug spray for the midroll is extremely fitting for this video.
"Gorb probably died of a coke overdose" hahaha
The Knight: You're already dead
Ghost: What
The Knight: Omae wa mou shinderu
Ghost: I know
Bruh.
How Xero fought while he is alive:
He uses lance like nails and throws them like spear for long range, and uses their bladed edges for close range combat.
How Markoth fought while he was alive:
Uses his shield in one hand and his nail in the other, most likely very acrobatic.
How Gorb fought while he was alive:
His ultimate brain capacity allows him to pick up nails with his telekinesis and launch them toward his foes. Or perhaps he CREATES THE NAILS WITH HIS MIND!
How Galien fought while he was alive: spin threw his scythe for a ranged attack and used its sharp edges for close ranged attacks
How No Eyes fought when she was alive:
Unknown, most likely used a nail like most of the bugs in Hallownest. Maybe she threw her weird ass children at her foes and tore their eyes out 👀
How Elder Hu fought while he was alive:
Most likely didn't do much, but his dream attacks suggest he might have used spells.
How Marmu fought while she was alive:
r o l l
16:59 it seems to me that the "they" is her children, that she is noticing they're infected, and how she wants to rid them of it