Nah, he still hasn't made a theory video about how Hungry Knight can potentially be canon to Hollow Knight's universe and story. THAT'S when he's draining.
@@MeckLords the show was awesome i think he is talking about the live action interpretation but please whatever the fuck you do, DON'T WATCH THAT SHITSHOW OF A MOVIE
imagine being a game dev and some wanker on youtube makes a video citing schrodinger, king of the hill, and a childhood scribbling you made for an egypt-themed board game as evidence for a throwaway npc being proof of the existence of a hollow knight multiverse continuity i'd never feel more proud in my entire life
Remember precept fifty: Don't linger on mysteries. This mushroom is a purveyor of lies and deceit trying to keep you from your true goals. A single blow from Life Ender™ would surely put a stop to this, should it encounter me!
Mossbag theory: mossbag said that he wouldn’t touch Undertale with a TEN foot pole but it was stated that mossbag is in possession of an ELEVEN foot pole. Therefor it is confirmed that mossbag will do Undertale theory’s soon.
Hawks he won’t touch it with a ten foot pole because of what happened when MatPat made his infamous Ness=Sans theory, which angered many undertale fans. At least i believe that’s his reason.
He really skipped over the fact that mr mushroom says the person he’s talking to will not triumph through their tools, but their determination. He did say he wasn’t touching undertale with a ten foot pole though.
@@azuquirtle no, all the toxic people left, I love the undertale community. And why the Frick would someone not talk about undertale because of the community?
@@dylan_Coat take a closer look, and you will find that his eyes spiral, just like the maskmaker's. You know what else is black and spirals? Black holes, which are VOIDS MADE OF MATTER. Therefore we can assume that the BLACK EGGS are actually aged, fertilized BLACK HOLES, because they give birth to MATTER (and even beings) MADE OF VOID!
So this is why all the Mario games are cartoonish... ...and why he’s called “mister” mushroom because Mario has a mustache and people that are called “mister” usually have mustaches...
I think the whole approach of "who is he talking to" is wrong. I believe you got it right with Castlemania, The Egypt Game etc. All of this were simply nods to every game they ever worked in, the whole path Mr. Mushroom travels is the path they traveled within game design. The Passing of Age is supposed to mean they were emabarking on a new project for a game, which is Silksong. I wouldn't be surprised if Silksong has Mr. Mushroom showing up in 8 spots...
Evidence finally shows that the friendly mushroom from Avatar: The Last Airbender appears in Hollow Knight. I knew Team Cherry was high on cactus juice!
Ahem, this would be more fit to True Pacifist. Their stats don't rise, and neither does their HP. Tools are not needed. The game is easy enough to get by with base stats, and you do not need a weapon to fight. To move on with pure determination, to repair your own soul with determination alone. Even RESET. That is what Mister Mushroom means. It is mainly Frisk's determination that will lead them to the end of this path.
@@thrace_bot1012 The European mutation of the virus made the other, often criticized, one mutate. The original one wasn't any different from any other religion at the time. A political play.
Professor: by accounting for the superposition of the particles involved in the experiment the team was able to Mossbag: so basically, Monomon is a dimensional shambler and Cory in the house remaster for switch confirm
I really appreciate you just casually dropping castlevania lore in the video over the years castlevania has slowly died and also WE NEED A GAME ABOUT JULIUS BELMONT
But then when you hit him the screen would go blank except his name in huge letters, then you’d get your ass whooped. That’s what happens with the other higher beings.
SlingshotWaffles I actually think the radiance is one of the easiest bosses considering you should have every tool when facing it, I more thinking NKG and maybe Absolute Radiance
“I’m sure you’re a busy person, with a lot to do, so I will tell you that the next part is pure speculation.” Oh my good sir, you underestimate my free time.
@@pluto3194 It's a reference to this videoruclips.net/video/yjkUMcSREdI/видео.html . Mossbag was talking specificaly about Ori and The Will of the Wisps which was released later then Hollow knight.
In the first Ori you fight with a light orb from safe distant and spam attack. Hollow Knight on the other hand lets you have a sword where you need to get close to your enemy. Ori two comes out and lets you have a weapon too. Ori 1 has a skill tree, but hollow knight has charms. So what did they do for ori 2? Yeah well charms. How has this guy, you sent the link, the audacity to say hollow knight copied the second game 😂 lol
It would be cool to see a video on the different "elements" in hollow knight (lifeblood, void, nightmares, dreams, silk, soul, etc.) and how they interact with each other (for example, paleness seems to destroy void as we see from the delicate flower ending).
I'm only 8 min into the video and it's already the best quality piece of lore I've seen so far from all the hollow knight multiverse's lore videos you've made.
Obviously, the last conversation is an undertale reference, because it has the word determination and both games were funded in Kickstarter and top donors got to create characters.
@@alexhamilton7090 oh i meant cycle as a theme rather than the literal cycle within the lore, with every time the flame is linked the word gets more messed up because linking the flame and prolonging the age of fire is against the natural progression of the world, so the result of this oppression to nature manifests as stagnation, i see at as having a perfectly organized music playlist and then pressing the shuffle button and ruining it, all the songs are still there but the order makes no sense, there's no harmony so to speak, so when you link the flame for many many years (amount of years between ds1 & ds3) you eventually reach pure chaos which leads to vestiges of past ages to recur (remember the dreg heap/kiln of the flame in ds3?) this is what i meant by "theme of cycles" i understand the confusion because i didn't make the distinction clear in my comment, i hope this made sense though
@@aX0n777 Good way of looking at it, but imo they shouldn't have brought back so much from the first game no matter the reason. A few returning characters would be ok- it is a sequel after all- but there was no reason for Andre or Kirk to return. DS2 did the cycles theme right imo- thousands of years pass and the legends are forgotten, but certain things repeat all the same. DS3 just got too literal with it.
@@alexhamilton7090 i think ds3 did enough of a good job to stand on its own two feet, expanding the lore and tying up loose ends in a satisfying way while providing an actual happy ending to the series with Gael's story, let alone having the best version of the dark souls combat system, so the fan service for me feels like a bonus, but as i say that i can DEFINITELY understand why someone would dislike it, it serves no purpose in the main quest and it's kind of just there for the fans to see and say "yeah i remember that" some pple like it and some think they've gone too far with it, i can understand both sides.
I strongly believe that when Mr. Mushroom says "It's not by tools you'll triumph, it's through your smarts, your speed, your determination..." is a clear reference to SilkSong. Hornet uses tools in the game, but I believe Mr. Mushroom is trying to tell her that these tools aren't what makes her strong.
Dude I've been watching your videos for all of three days but they are legitimately some of the funniest, well thought out pieces of media that I have seen for a while. My god it's clever.
"...It's not by tools that you'll triumph, it's through your smarts, your speed, your determination..." I'm pretty sure this line is directed directly towards either the Knight or the player. He's saying that your skill and determination are more important for beating the game than your upgrades are. Since this is his final message I think it makes sense for him to adress the player or player character before flying off for good.
I agree with this. The game is unbeatable whether you have the fully upgraded dream nail or not, although you won't get the best ending. I don't buy the connections to Zelda and Metroid and all that.
True. Could even refer to the bindings during godhome, as you play with less health, no charms, a downgraded nail, etc., and all you've got to triumph is your own skill.
Here's a theory: Gorb is a godseeker. Evidence: he is the "great mind", he wants you to "ascend with Gorb", he looks like them except with no mask. Matpat? wants to see this Mossbag? I would love for you to have a look at this Hotel? Trivago
Personally, that final line of dialog sounds like it's talking to the main character of Undertale since one of the points of the game is to not attack (not using weapons or "tools"), and cleverness is definitely needed in order to find ways to not kill enemies and solve puzzles, and DETERMINATION.
I was so proud of myself when you said "hungry" and i instantly knew it was a hungry knight reference. I have not watched a hollow knight lore video for months. It's deep within my consciousness I wished i could discuss hollow knight lore with someone lok
Anyone else think that the qoute by Mr mushroom "its not by tools that you'll triumph, it's through your smarts, speed and determination" could also have been hinting at silk song?
The whole "Hollow Knight was inspired by Ori and the will of the wisps" joke is based on this review: ruclips.net/video/yjkUMcSREdI/видео.html The review states Hollow Knight stole from will of the wisps. Ori and the will of the wisps was announced At E3 2017 (June 13-15th) Hollow Knight released Feb 24rd 2017.
best part is he is so scared of people calling him out and having actual good points to defend their point that he always disables comments on his videos. Whatever boosts his bloated ego even more i guess
Conspiracy theory: Mister Mushroom is the guy who appears in the end sequence in the dream no more ending and is also the one who gives Hornet to those weirdos in silksong
Shade soul or great slash one hit them, theyre easy to dodge without them too, judt dhade thru it and 2 hit them, they arent a problem outside of all bindings
So does that mean everyone in the Hollow Knight fandom’s OCs are technically canon? Does this mean Hollow Knight fanfiction is technically canon? Cause gosh that is gonna end in some weird stuff man
Can we take a moment to appreciate the subtitiles? Many youtubers don't take the time to add them and normally is the community that writes them, meaning we have to wait for months. Respect
so about conversation 5, mr mushroom mentions "going back up", "gathering, hunting, or wandering around aimlessly" and "things are getting too dangerous down here" i feel this might be a reference to pikmin 2 because, in pkmin 2 there are caves, and these caves, can get really dangerous the deeper you go, "going back up" may be a reference to the fact the in pikmin 2 the surface is a lot safer than the caves, "gathering" may be a reference to gathering treasures which you do a lot of in pikmin 2, "hunting" may reference to killing enemies to get more pikmin, and "wandering around aimlessly" may reference the fact that if youre playing the game for the first time, you dont know where all the reasures are, so what do you do? wander around aimlessly
This is probably the most comprehensive in-depth analysis of HK lore I've ever seen. The multiverse concept was something I've always considered based on the dream nails use on lord shade
It would be really cool if Mr. Mushroom is some how talking to Hornet in Silksong; and when (if) We find Mr. Mushroom in Silksong we’ll hear what he thought he was saying to the knight.
Oh mis god are you stupid, none of this make any fucking sense
ok
lul
Potato
That's only because you haven't played M.Night Shyamalan's The Last Airbender for the Nintendo Wii!
This is a true hate comment?
“The obvious place to start is Schrodingers equation”
*He’s back boys*
I knew it.
@Juanito i thought you were dead
mossbag really trying to drain every drop of lore from HK before Silksong
'Cause we all know Silksong's going to be bringing at least another 30 videos worth of lore with it.
I'm sorry but this was a great video, it's like a parody of his own stuff
Nah, he still hasn't made a theory video about how Hungry Knight can potentially be canon to Hollow Knight's universe and story. THAT'S when he's draining.
@@Couch_Banana Haven't you watched this video?
This video should just be called "16 minutes of mossbag squeezing his mushroom on camera"
"This video contains spoilers for hollow knight [.] and M. Night Shyamalan's The Last Airbender for the Nintendo Wii"
Excuse me what.
ikr, i was like "the fuck? they made a game based on that shitshow?"
That's how you know it's gonna be a quality video
All true gamers have played M. night Shyamalan’s the last air bender for Nintendo Wii
@@vizthex ngl, the show was pretty good, at least imo
@@MeckLords the show was awesome i think he is talking about the live action interpretation but please whatever the fuck you do, DON'T WATCH THAT SHITSHOW OF A MOVIE
I can’t believe that the “my first girlfriend turned into the moon” meme made its way to the Hollow Knight lore
That's rough, buddy.
"My first girlfriend turned into a tree."
my first crush turned into a tree
Isn’t it a avatar reference?
@@relatablegrandmacarol2502 yes grandma
imagine being a game dev and some wanker on youtube makes a video citing schrodinger, king of the hill, and a childhood scribbling you made for an egypt-themed board game as evidence for a throwaway npc being proof of the existence of a hollow knight multiverse continuity
i'd never feel more proud in my entire life
Imagine if this this video is actually true and that's what the devs actually meant lol
@@littleskeleton420 Hello sans
@@yuurifanclub now i cannot unsee it
No
Remember precept fifty: Don't linger on mysteries. This mushroom is a purveyor of lies and deceit trying to keep you from your true goals. A single blow from Life Ender™ would surely put a stop to this, should it encounter me!
Go home Zote.
I died from this "™"
zote, go keep simping over bretta, leave Mister Mushroom alone
Man, really should've left you in the jaws of that Vengefly King
@@Catflers I had that overgrown pest exactly where I wanted it until that wandering interloper came by!
Mossbag theory: mossbag said that he wouldn’t touch Undertale with a TEN foot pole but it was stated that mossbag is in possession of an ELEVEN foot pole. Therefor it is confirmed that mossbag will do Undertale theory’s soon.
Why he said that? he indirectly said that he doesn't like the game or I interpreted what he said wrong?
Hawks he won’t touch it with a ten foot pole because of what happened when MatPat made his infamous Ness=Sans theory, which angered many undertale fans. At least i believe that’s his reason.
he is scared of undertale fandom
Game theory: Is the Dashmaster from Hollow Knight SANS???
@@gabrielluck2354 Makes sense
He is the most important character to the lore of hollow knight, the world, and everything
yes, yes he is
Catto stando
@@timothytosser288 oh noo
his history goes beyond hallownest. İmportan he sure is
Are you a jojo reference?
bike borb launched me several yards from my desk chair
Is this the true and only grayfruit ?
Oh hey it's grayfruit
Penis.
Ok mossbag is verified but you aren't? Huh?
Wow its grayfruit
He really skipped over the fact that mr mushroom says the person he’s talking to will not triumph through their tools, but their determination. He did say he wasn’t touching undertale with a ten foot pole though.
D E T E R M I N A T I O N
The reason he wouldn't touch undertale is because he knows how important it is to play undertale blind
@@VulpineFox7 or because the community is literally the worst
You guys are both incorrect. He said it once. It was because of what happened to Matpat when he tried to theorize about Undertale.
@@azuquirtle no, all the toxic people left, I love the undertale community. And why the Frick would someone not talk about undertale because of the community?
Mossbag: "I'll explain Mr. Mushroom, but first, we need to talk about parallel universes"
M.S.Piranha Plant Advanced indeed like the upcoming lore of Bobby hill
Well TJ "Henry" Yoshi
Mossbag dead ass just asked us if we knew about {Gravity}
* Proceeds to take it seriously
Me: ('0_0)
But first, Quantum Mechanics
The real question is though, "Is Mister.Mushroom void?"
1:51 You see those pupils? They're black. You know what else is black? VOID! MR MUSHROOM IS VOID 100% CONFIRMED
He is 112% void cuz he is mysterious and has black eyes.
@@dylan_Coat take a closer look, and you will find that his eyes spiral, just like the maskmaker's. You know what else is black and spirals? Black holes, which are VOIDS MADE OF MATTER. Therefore we can assume that the BLACK EGGS are actually aged, fertilized BLACK HOLES, because they give birth to MATTER (and even beings) MADE OF VOID!
NORMAL COAT but that means, *GASP* your implying *_H O R N E T I S V O I D._*
NORMAL COAT nah Miss Termushroom is actually just full of hope
Honestly I think Mister Mushroom is just a powerup from mario that got high on itself and was unshackled from the bounds of his universe.
All lore is clear, thats all i neded
So this is why all the Mario games are cartoonish... ...and why he’s called “mister” mushroom because Mario has a mustache and people that are called “mister” usually have mustaches...
HhhMMmHhHhMmMm Yea that sounds about right
Yes
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha (laughs hysterically)
“The obvious place to start is Schrodinger's equation”
"but first we need to talk about parallel universes"
I think the whole approach of "who is he talking to" is wrong. I believe you got it right with Castlemania, The Egypt Game etc. All of this were simply nods to every game they ever worked in, the whole path Mr. Mushroom travels is the path they traveled within game design. The Passing of Age is supposed to mean they were emabarking on a new project for a game, which is Silksong. I wouldn't be surprised if Silksong has Mr. Mushroom showing up in 8 spots...
Also, he was definitely talking to the Knight in that first dialogue.
Yea
Silksong is gonna come out and we are gonna find Belmont and Bobby Hill In game.
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Good
You literally killed me right now 😂
Hornet is propane confirmed
Haha, no silly, bobby hill is going to be the dlc they say they will make and then doesn't come out! wait... *HORNET IS BOBBY HILL CONFIRMED*
Evidence finally shows that the friendly mushroom from Avatar: The Last Airbender appears in Hollow Knight. I knew Team Cherry was high on cactus juice!
It'll quench ya!
Nothing's quenchier!
@@armanchoudhary8354 IT'S THE QUENCHIEST!
I see Legend of Korra video recommendation right now, send help
@@kormannn1 Sorry, you have reached a LoK fan. Please call again for better service *beeeeeeeep*
I’m stoked that I got to help with some lore.
Surprised to see you in this video!
Heck yeah
Yeee
Relyea, didn’t expect to see you in this cesspit of a comment section.
didn't expect to see u here relyea 😂
I've actually never found Mister Mushroom, I had no idea he was a thing in this game
Honestly, unless I see him with my own two eyes, I refuse to believe he is in the game.
Mister Mushroom is a conspiracy
Ive seen him once while traveling from godhome to the black egg because i refuse to finish pantheon 5 and wanted to fight radiance
Same
i love how he tries not to laugh at the Puffstool
Mr mushroom has ascended beyond our understanding.
I am gorb!
@@alostyen bow! Bow! Bow! Bow to gorb!
goooooooba! wajncjndcsosdjnvejshxaihdiwdnowjdwojdh ascend! A S C E N D !
-gorb
Higher beings, these words are for you alone.
Ascend! Ascend with Gorb!
you can hear him trying not to chuckle when he's listing off all of the pikmin enemies
I kinda thought that was funny listening to him trying not to laugh.
He's talking to you: the human player. His last quote is saying your tools (keyboard, mouse, monitor) aren't important, your skills are
So I'm the part of HK lore too?
aight time to speedrun without a montior
Then why does Hornet ask you to git gud?
@@BomberX911 dude we totally are part of HK lore
Determination? I instantly thought of Undertale
"Determination"
"Vietnam war flashbacks of Undertale genocide route*
Ahem, this would be more fit to True Pacifist. Their stats don't rise, and neither does their HP. Tools are not needed. The game is easy enough to get by with base stats, and you do not need a weapon to fight. To move on with pure determination, to repair your own soul with determination alone. Even RESET. That is what Mister Mushroom means. It is mainly Frisk's determination that will lead them to the end of this path.
@@Hivatelyes fine idea good chap, spot of tea will you?
(Me been stuck at undine for about 6 years) 😂
@@HenrydAssumpcao-z5w skill issue gg
Team Cherry: Adds a funky mushroom man to the game
mossbag: Starts talking about quantum mechanics
20 seconds in and we’re already using Schrödinger’s equation. I’m glad that someone appreciates the sheer complexity of this cryptic character.
I wasn’t listening for ten seconds and you tell me Hollow Knight and King of the Hill are in the same universe. What the-
Im gonna kick your a-
Same lol
And the fact it's true makes it worst
even if you are listening for that part it doesnt make sense
If we grab King of the Hill first and last words, grab the initials of both words and then reverse their position, what do we get?
HK
"The collective lives on"
RADIANCE INTENSIFIES
_Most likely forsheadowing_
Borg , zerg and tyranids intensified
@Detlaff von Drac
It's a religion hurting others, making mindless drones, talking about only one god ... It's the church!
@@1r0zz All abrahamic religions , you mean. Muslims and Jews too.
@@thrace_bot1012
The European mutation of the virus made the other, often criticized, one mutate.
The original one wasn't any different from any other religion at the time. A political play.
Ah yes, Schrodinger’s equation. How could I be so foolish.
Alternate title: A man descends into madness while waiting for Silksong to come out
I feel like Mossbag dropped out of college in the midst of his quantum mechanics lesson and just started talking about Hollow Knight.
This isnt fuckin TechnoBlade mate
Professor: by accounting for the superposition of the particles involved in the experiment the team was able to
Mossbag: so basically, Monomon is a dimensional shambler and Cory in the house remaster for switch confirm
Mister Mushroom can fly because he built up speed for 12 hours
He is 4 parallel dimensions ahead of you
'Thats where our leads drop dead"
I think they died when you needed to explain the entire plot of castlevania lol.
Every time mossbag says "Mario", an Italian chokes on pasta.
I really appreciate you just casually dropping castlevania lore in the video over the years castlevania has slowly died and also WE NEED A GAME ABOUT JULIUS BELMONT
Of course the video starts with
"But first, we need to talk about parallel universes"
"Imagine a bus..."
i facepalmed so hard when it was fucking mario 64
Imagine not having particles - this meme was made by Copenhagen interpretation gang
imagine not using unity's particle system xD
Imagine having wave functions - this meme was made by the Highschool Physics gang
Team Cherry! Release Silksong! He's going completely insane!
Please release silksong
Team Cherry! Don’t rush SilkSong!
the fact that this comment is 2 years old now makes it so much better
11:28
Imagine they're waiting for 2035 or something
Bad news...
13:03 Ah yes, the usual Hollow Knight lore video.
I love how little of this video is actually about Mister Mushroom.
Man, quarantine would be a good time to play Silksong
Anytime would be good for Silksong
"It makes 40% sense, which is a pretty good for hollowknight lore"
Mossbag, it's not polite to understate yourself.
No i'm okay
Mr.Mushroom Is obviously A “Higher Being”
Edit: Thanks for all the likes!
Finally we will understand the messages from the higher beings like "despacito"
Mr. Mushroom is void.
But then when you hit him the screen would go blank except his name in huge letters, then you’d get your ass whooped. That’s what happens with the other higher beings.
@@corbinbarron8772 bruh just use shaman stone and abyss shriek
SlingshotWaffles I actually think the radiance is one of the easiest bosses considering you should have every tool when facing it, I more thinking NKG and maybe Absolute Radiance
“I’m sure you’re a busy person, with a lot to do, so I will tell you that the next part is pure speculation.” Oh my good sir, you underestimate my free time.
D-Did you just unironically summarise the entirety of Castlevania lore in 3 minutes?
He always seemed like a fun guy
Yes, I hear he's very gragaricus.
There isn't mushroom for new puns, is there?
@@adriantsui9566 If we put our minds to it we can think of new ones. What are we waiting spore?
@@WobblesandBean I'm sure we'll truffle someone's feathers if we continue down this route.
@@adriantsui9566 It mycelium that way, but I'm sure they're just jealous of our pun skills.
I'm betting 20 bucks that Mr. Mushroom could defeat the entire PoH with a single thought.
he zoomin
I love that the "Hollow Knight stole from Ori" thing is already a meme
I mean it's pretty obvious that they did
Edit: Seems people are stupid so I'll just add this
THIS IS A JOKE, I REPEAT, JOKE
@@pluto3194 bruh what, no they didnt
@@pluto3194 It's a reference to this videoruclips.net/video/yjkUMcSREdI/видео.html .
Mossbag was talking specificaly about Ori and The Will of the Wisps which was released later then Hollow knight.
Someguy1237 in reddit AMA both Willliam and Ari said that they haven't played Ori.
In the first Ori you fight with a light orb from safe distant and spam attack. Hollow Knight on the other hand lets you have a sword where you need to get close to your enemy. Ori two comes out and lets you have a weapon too. Ori 1 has a skill tree, but hollow knight has charms. So what did they do for ori 2? Yeah well charms. How has this guy, you sent the link, the audacity to say hollow knight copied the second game 😂 lol
i love how a video about a mushroom that lives in a pile of dirt turned into explaining the lore of a dracula game
Thanks mossbag, i accidentally graduated from harvard with this information
Soka, Megamind and Link are my favorite characters in Hollow Knight now
I like how Mossbag talks more about Castlevania lore than Hollow Knight lore.
It would be cool to see a video on the different "elements" in hollow knight (lifeblood, void, nightmares, dreams, silk, soul, etc.) and how they interact with each other (for example, paleness seems to destroy void as we see from the delicate flower ending).
I'm only 8 min into the video and it's already the best quality piece of lore I've seen so far from all the hollow knight multiverse's lore videos you've made.
Obviously, the last conversation is an undertale reference, because it has the word determination and both games were funded in Kickstarter and top donors got to create characters.
my god, he's alive! bless you, moss person
About the nose thing him talking about noses is probably referring to the fact mr mushroom is the only character that has a nose
False Knight and the other two maggots have noses, though.
@@Dinoman972 well thats because they are Higher Beings just like Mr. Mushroom
@@StackMan they are mosquitos. That is a mouth
Also that ugly bug from the alpha that was cut
@@sebas_1975 do you mean mossbug?
mossbag: “Dark Souls 1 uses it”
Also mossbag: uses image from dark souls two...
and misses the theme of cycles in ds3
Obeida Waleed cycles have nothing to do with reusing characters though. The cycle is just the Flame dying and being relit.
@@alexhamilton7090
oh i meant cycle as a theme rather than the literal cycle within the lore, with every time the flame is linked the word gets more messed up because linking the flame and prolonging the age of fire is against the natural progression of the world, so the result of this oppression to nature manifests as stagnation, i see at as having a perfectly organized music playlist and then pressing the shuffle button and ruining it, all the songs are still there but the order makes no sense, there's no harmony so to speak, so when you link the flame for many many years (amount of years between ds1 & ds3) you eventually reach pure chaos which leads to vestiges of past ages to recur (remember the dreg heap/kiln of the flame in ds3?) this is what i meant by "theme of cycles" i understand the confusion because i didn't make the distinction clear in my comment, i hope this made sense though
@@aX0n777 Good way of looking at it, but imo they shouldn't have brought back so much from the first game no matter the reason. A few returning characters would be ok- it is a sequel after all- but there was no reason for Andre or Kirk to return. DS2 did the cycles theme right imo- thousands of years pass and the legends are forgotten, but certain things repeat all the same. DS3 just got too literal with it.
@@alexhamilton7090
i think ds3 did enough of a good job to stand on its own two feet, expanding the lore and tying up loose ends in a satisfying way while providing an actual happy ending to the series with Gael's story, let alone having the best version of the dark souls combat system, so the fan service for me feels like a bonus, but as i say that i can DEFINITELY understand why someone would dislike it, it serves no purpose in the main quest and it's kind of just there for the fans to see and say "yeah i remember that" some pple like it and some think they've gone too far with it, i can understand both sides.
I strongly believe that when Mr. Mushroom says "It's not by tools you'll triumph, it's through your smarts, your speed, your determination..." is a clear reference to SilkSong. Hornet uses tools in the game, but I believe Mr. Mushroom is trying to tell her that these tools aren't what makes her strong.
Dude I've been watching your videos for all of three days but they are legitimately some of the funniest, well thought out pieces of media that I have seen for a while. My god it's clever.
We know Mr. Mushroom is ascended. Who else is ascended? Gorb. Mr. Mushroom is Gorb.
Lol, the subtle jab at Game Theory
Morb
"...It's not by tools that you'll triumph, it's through your smarts, your speed, your determination..." I'm pretty sure this line is directed directly towards either the Knight or the player. He's saying that your skill and determination are more important for beating the game than your upgrades are. Since this is his final message I think it makes sense for him to adress the player or player character before flying off for good.
I agree with this. The game is unbeatable whether you have the fully upgraded dream nail or not, although you won't get the best ending. I don't buy the connections to Zelda and Metroid and all that.
True. Could even refer to the bindings during godhome, as you play with less health, no charms, a downgraded nail, etc., and all you've got to triumph is your own skill.
The only problem is, that's really not true. If you get OP stuff the game is super easy.
thats a lie i couldnt beat nosk without nail upgrades i try 100 tiems
that or this is an undertale reference
Here's a theory: Gorb is a godseeker. Evidence: he is the "great mind", he wants you to "ascend with Gorb", he looks like them except with no mask.
Matpat? wants to see this
Mossbag? I would love for you to have a look at this
Hotel? Trivago
This theory actually might have some sauce
....oh shit u right tho
You are br?
That's what I thought alsp
He did, and said no
Personally, that final line of dialog sounds like it's talking to the main character of Undertale since one of the points of the game is to not attack (not using weapons or "tools"), and cleverness is definitely needed in order to find ways to not kill enemies and solve puzzles, and DETERMINATION.
Yep. This game privatized the d-word.
Unironically.
Title card: to be continued
Moss bag: plays we’ll be right back music
Me: I’m am so greatly disappointed
I was so proud of myself when you said "hungry" and i instantly knew it was a hungry knight reference. I have not watched a hollow knight lore video for months. It's deep within my consciousness
I wished i could discuss hollow knight lore with someone lok
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edit: but seriously, thank you so much mossbag for your videos, your content is amazing- thank you lore god of hollow knight-
You win
Truly the one with a hollow knight pfp gets here first.
Quirrel for president
This guy's now making Team Cherry lores, not Hollow Knight
Anyone else think that the qoute by Mr mushroom "its not by tools that you'll triumph, it's through your smarts, speed and determination" could also have been hinting at silk song?
This confirms the knight in smash.
The quarantine must have finally gotten to mossbag.
Undertale: *Exist
Comments: "War, war never changes."
Fandom be like: So you’ve chosen death bag of moss
In German "Mister mushrooms" Name is "Meister Pilz" what means
"Master Mushroom"
This is the link to Paper Mario because there’s the Master dude that trains you to fight and stuff
Fun fact, "Mr." started as an abbreviation for "Master", before eventually being corrupted into "Mister".
Soul mastershroom
Mossbag:gets lost in samus
Also mossbag:doent get lost in hollow knight
Me: give me ure power
The whole "Hollow Knight was inspired by Ori and the will of the wisps" joke is based on this review: ruclips.net/video/yjkUMcSREdI/видео.html
The review states Hollow Knight stole from will of the wisps.
Ori and the will of the wisps was announced At E3 2017 (June 13-15th) Hollow Knight released Feb 24rd 2017.
best part is he is so scared of people calling him out and having actual good points to defend their point that he always disables comments on his videos.
Whatever boosts his bloated ego even more i guess
god that was a real thing i just watched. wasnt it
What did I just watch
@@when7573 Sadly yes, yes it was. Also nice username.
That video is a parody, right? Right? It's such an obvious sarcasm, you can't say this nonsense unjokingly. I don't believe it's not a joke.
"Video games having parallel universes is not a unique concept." Shows super mario 64
sounds like someone hasnt seen the a press video
Finally were getting into the important stuff
Handsome Lancer is totally canon.
I think that when he talks about how “you aren’t hungry anymore” is when he starts talking to you.
This is the most confused I’ve ever seen Mossbag
Conspiracy theory: Mister Mushroom is the guy who appears in the end sequence in the dream no more ending and is also the one who gives Hornet to those weirdos in silksong
Primal aspids lore:
They are archaic demons who like to cause pain.
They fucking feed off of all suffering they manage to inflict upon us
Sadistic things.
Correct
Shade soul or great slash one hit them, theyre easy to dodge without them too, judt dhade thru it and 2 hit them, they arent a problem outside of all bindings
That would be those stupid ass Crystal Hunters, holy crap they're the most annoying enemy from this game
mossbag: Uploads after a while
Me: It's been 84 years..
*its been so long.*
*since the last i've seen your vid.*
*last to this corona.*
*to the man behind the bat soup*
I believe this proves that Hollow Knight canonically takes place in Hank Hill's backyard.
Being an undertale fan I can’t blame you for not touching it with a ten foot pole
“Is this some sort of out of season April fools joke?”
So does that mean everyone in the Hollow Knight fandom’s OCs are technically canon?
Does this mean Hollow Knight fanfiction is technically canon?
Cause gosh that is gonna end in some weird stuff man
NOOOOO GOD PLEASE NO
When it comes to parallel universes everything is canon.
By the heart... BRUMM BRING ME THE HOLY FLAME THROWER!!!
Nightmare King Grimm *(un)holy
Time for bug dicks to be a thing. Knew it would happen eventually.
Can we take a moment to appreciate the subtitiles?
Many youtubers don't take the time to add them and normally is the community that writes them, meaning we have to wait for months. Respect
Mushroom: if have nose, then use it
Mossbag: "it there a deeper meaning?"
so about conversation 5, mr mushroom mentions "going back up", "gathering, hunting, or wandering around aimlessly" and "things are getting too dangerous down here" i feel this might be a reference to pikmin 2 because, in pkmin 2 there are caves, and these caves, can get really dangerous the deeper you go, "going back up" may be a reference to the fact the in pikmin 2 the surface is a lot safer than the caves, "gathering" may be a reference to gathering treasures which you do a lot of in pikmin 2, "hunting" may reference to killing enemies to get more pikmin, and "wandering around aimlessly" may reference the fact that if youre playing the game for the first time, you dont know where all the reasures are, so what do you do? wander around aimlessly
Ok never thought I would see mossbag explaining the story of Aria of Sorrow.
Such a good game.
“Dark souls 1 uses it as a clever excuse to explain pvp”
*Shows lost bastille from DS2*
Sad platemail noises
"and ori and the will of the wisps" ouch, that must hurt..
This is probably the most comprehensive in-depth analysis of HK lore I've ever seen. The multiverse concept was something I've always considered based on the dream nails use on lord shade
Every time he talks about the mushroom telepathy a piece of me dies
It's MYCELIUM
Sure, but in hollow knight they’re also telepathic and can move. You can’t really be connected to mycelium when you’re jumping around everywhere
@@teathesilkwing7616mycelium is omnipresent, just jack in at your next location
It would be really cool if Mr. Mushroom is some how talking to Hornet in Silksong; and when (if) We find Mr. Mushroom in Silksong we’ll hear what he thought he was saying to the knight.
“Having parallel universes”
*shows scuttlebug*
That reference has more layers than Mr. Mushroom.
For the uncultured : ruclips.net/video/kpk2tdsPh0A/видео.html
it has 1 layer
Dialoge 5 really serms like a Minecraft reference because of the hunting and gathering Mr. Mushroom mentions imo
I like how he says dark souls 1 and shows a picture of The lost Bastille in dark souls 2
How on earth do you have this magical power to make me stop what I’m doing and immediately watch